I live in Indiana, and I really hope Tesla takes over the energy scene! Even here in Indiana! Electric companies are too greedy and our bills are way too high!
CCP (Chinese communist party) backed Tesla only makes power more expensive and less reliable. EG CA Blackouts: Look up when unreliable wind and solar replace reliable sources like coal, oil, gas and nuclear!
@@ThomasLee123 - The battery is a major part of solar and wind production. Over production builds up a "charge" in the battery banks that then gets used when there is not enough production. Not only is the concept and process not new, it has been used very succesfuly in many places. As to Tesla making power more expensive... Yeah, no. Adding more of a product to the supply almost never causes the price to go up. In the case of Tesla, the cost to Tesla included the power production and the power storage units. All of that is a part of the cost of the power. The external that Tesla is not dealing with directly will be the power transmission infrastructure. Consumers pay for that with the company that supplies power to them. Those same companies buy power from other companies and/or produce power themselves that is transported through the power grid to the end consumers. This is where the batteries at the consumer location become so important. By using these batteries, you can load level the demand and reduce or eliminate the use of power peaker plants during peak usage. These plants are very expensive to maintain and to use. Eliminating the need for these plants is a large savings for the power consumer. As to the CCP's implementation, I know nothing about what they have done. if they are experiencing what you say, they are doing it incorrectly. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaking_power_plant
He's proving that money can be made while providing needed change; im confident these technologies will be adapted to every country and their climates respectively. The as an American citizen i am honored to have elon and his team using the power and technologies we have to bring the standard of living for all to a prosperous level
@@Notthatguy23 "He's proving that money can be made while providing needed change; im confident these technologies will be adapted to every country and their climates respectively." While it is true about needed change, many utilities are fighting like mad to make it illegal and/or fiscally problematic for a system like this to be put into place in their areas (state by state)
Texas has the most optimal spot for renewable energy possibly in the entire world. They have millions of acres flat land that all have huge solar and wind resource. It will soon be known as the "battery / wind / solar" belt. Texas led in fossil fuels, they'll lead in renewables too. Battery economics get scary good when you have good wind and solar assets overlaid on top of one another. Illinois and Indiana are another 2 examples of states with very good wind and solar resources. Wind + Solar + very little batteries = cheapest baseload. This has been figured out and it's spreading exponentially.
@@ThomasLee123 how much wildlife is killed by digging up and burning oil and creating global warming, and by ecological disasters like the Deepwater explosion and oil spill that happen in the pursuit of more oil? There is no comparison. Wind farms are far safer for wildlife and the planet.
This will be a slow acceptance rate in the beginning, but people are wanting to have a reliable source of power for their homes and are willing to buy technology they probably wouldn't invest in otherwise. As an Austinite, I can tell you that people were scared back in February. I attended a funeral for my husband's friend who passed from the freezing temperatures. If ERCOT can't provide the necessary energy to protect our lives, then Texans will provide for their own selves. Tesla energy will eventually dominate Texas, let's say 10 years.
Tell me tell you guys this, This will cause a Big Rate Hike forsure, Yes Will get uninterrupted service for a Price, Their Stock Holders need to make money, Monopoly is a Bad Thing. You guys don't need a car company managing your grid
@@cessealbeach So, are you suggesting that someone should make the Texas power grid more reliable, more efficient, and be able to serve the future needs of Texas without electricity rates increasing a little? What is the cost of power failures?
As with new technology it will be a massive competitive advantage, and disadvantage due to cost of innovation. They will eventually become manufactures of components to all the new companies that wish to build these new solar power plants. And tesla will take a piece off the top while will pay them for the innovation and risk they took
Born and raised Austin (don't hold it against me) and I can tell you many of us are fed-up with how the snowpocalypse affected us and our ability to not only work but to care for others and for ourselves. We've been iffy on when we'd be installing solar and battery packs into the house, but after this winter storm, we are actively saving money to get it done sooner rather than later. Thankfully we had a stash of firewood (lol yes in Austin) and my parents were able to keep warm while I was away for work (Houston). Thank you Tesla for helping add competition into our complacent grid.
I’m honestly kind of in the in between with the guy, there’s a LOT of great things I’ve seen from him, but when I looked at it from another prospective, a lot of it was dumb or false, but there’s a lot of messed up stuff that I can’t deny he’s done. I don’t really know about him anymore and think we shouldn’t exactly pick sides on who he is and just look at what he’s doing instead
@@daneadams4176 To be honest I don’t know many bad things he’s done. I guess I’m just feed the good. I’m assuming it’s environmental issues? I’m a big fan of his and believe in his over all mission. The AI he’s developing does scary me. If the tech gets into the wrong hands it could very well turn into a real life terminator scenario.... I’ll search for bad things he’s done to weight them both. All I know is for sure I follow Elon Musk so I miss out on the future. 👍🏻
@@tripletasktv3830 yeah I can agree with that. The main problems people are talking about is how he treats his workers, but I feel like basically all workers in that department aren’t in the best case-scenario so idk. The next thing people are saying is that “he’s using slave/child labor in his mines in Africa,” that, I 100% do not believe in the slightest. He would be receiving much more backlash rn and would most likely be in jail if that were the case. But it’s basically directed toward his anger issues and stuff like that, but I think that’s pretty minor overall. Actually, I’m having a pretty hard time believing a lot of this stuff because of how many holes are in them and how little sources they give. I don’t think that side of the argument is very reliable
@@alanmay7929 the carbon dioxide those rockets release should be about 0.00000000561 percent of the actual amount needed to make any difference at all.
I lived in Texas in 1989 during the Arctic cold snap. It got down to -7 degrees F in Waco, Texas South of Dallas, near where I lived. It was 5 degrees in Austin and 7 degrees in Houston. I'm sorry, but the power stayed on. I read there were a few 2 hr rolling blackouts on only one day of the cold snap, but the power stayed on at our house.. My wife doesn't even remember it, because there were no problems. ..... The problem with wind and solar is that an Arctic front brings a high pressure, which means there is very little wind, and of course snow on solar panels, not to mention overcast skies. Perhaps the experience of North Platte River Power Association (NPRPA) in Northern Colorado is a cautionary tale about win and solar. The NPRPA provides power for Northern Colorado -- Ft Collins, Estes Park and Loveland. They have winds farms in Wyoming and a large solar array in Colorado. The wind farms in Wyoming froze, but an honest representative of the company said that didn't matter because there was no wind anyway. So NPRPA tried to fire up their gas powered plants, but Excel said they were prioritizing gas for residential use not electric generation. So they fired up their coal plants. They also sent out a plea for customers to conserve. They barely avoided a crash of the grid thanks to coal. So, Arctic.front = no wind, snow, and overcast. ... And prolonged heat waves mean there is probably a High Pressure setting over you, meaning no wind too. Just when air conditioning is ramping up. The UK when 14 days with virtually no wind last summer. They got through by buying French nuclear...... So I would say you need weeks not days of energy storage. Not affordable yet in a predominately wind and solar grid.
Battery production seems to be the factor slowing the widespread adoption of these technologies. As plants devoted to large scale battery production come online the economics will shift. Meanwhile, there is a heavily-financed, continuous R/D effort around the world to improve batteries by both refining existing types and creating entirely new ones. Give it about ten years. The way power is generated and transmitted will look quite different. To me it appears likely that Tesla will remain a leader in these developments. But there are certainly other companies that will achieve prominence.
The energy market is enormous. There's more than enough room for a number of very successful companies. Tesla looks like it will be one of them and is showing the path for others. What is about to happen is Tesla going into production with its 4680 tabless, dry-rolled cells. The ones that use lithium iron phosphate (LFP) chemistry should have a cost of less than $50/kWh. Including the electronics to do the AC/DC/AC conversion the cost of storing energy should be about $50/kWh. And LFP cells have very high cycle lifetimes. 10,000 full cycles or more. $50/kWh / 10,000 cycles = $0.005 to store electricity. For frequent cycling. Unsubsidized wind and solar are now around $0.03/kWh and are expected to drop closer to $0.01/kWh. If we got 50% of our electricity directly from wind and solar at 2 cents and 50% from stored wind/solar at 2.5 cents it would mean the cheapest electricity we have ever enjoyed. The cost of driving EVs would become silly-cheap. The cost of transporting materials and finished goods will drop. The cost of producing materials and goods will drop. We're headed toward deflation, lower costs, for transportation, good, and food.
A bonus with these grid level batteries are that size and weight is not an issue so you can, as mentioned in the video, go with cheaper, more readily available materials and just use more of them, and while most of the battery parks are on flat land, in a city you could just as easily fill a few floors with batteries.
Thanks for the informative video. The units are supposed to be MWh and not MW/H. MW/H would simply a second derivative of power used by engineers to describe the rate at which a power station can ramp up or ramp down its output. Battery storage capacity must use energy units to describe it. KWh represents energy/time x time resulting in energy units derived from the power unit W.
Exactly what I was thinking! At this point, average Tesla is close to 100 kw/h, compared to under 14 kw/h for a powerwall. That's how they can easily do x10. When Tesla is able to incentivise Tesla car owners to offer a portion of their plugged-in vehicle's range to be sold back to the grid... now we're talking!
Thanks for the comprehensive explanation, not only of Tesla's plans, but the general description of the energy landscape. I wish I could have a peek into the next decade. It's all very exciting.
When Tesla cars become part of the grid electricity and transport will finally be holding hands. Next should be water and finally the IRS needs to figure out how to encourage green and Tax efficiency.
Elon is a disruptor. If he takes on an industry he has done his sums before. I would be surprised if he would not be successful. The Electricity market is extremely staid and uncompetitive. It is more than ripe for a disruption. The concept of decentralized electricity generation and storage combined with trading is extremely sound. Elon is able to shift markets like no one else alive right now. He is creating new realities. So I bet on him to be successful.
To me this is beautiful. I live within fifteen miles of four coal burning electric generating power plants. One has shut down recently. But there are still three operating. On the road where we use to live, which is only three miles long, there were six people fighting cancer in their lungs at the same time, my wife being one of them. This road is only a few miles East of one of the largest power plants in the U.S. Of the six people with cancer in their lungs, three have died, two have had either a whole lung or a partial lung removed and one had treatments which are not nice. So I hope you can see why I think these solar panels, wind generators and large battery packs look beautiful to me. They are much prettier than the smoke stacks at coal burning plants that are belching out deadly pollution in our community.
I will be moving to Texas soon from my current over-priced on everything location. The power grid was actually one of my concerns, so this is good news.
@@richardwatts8607 You want to explain that? I think you are saying: The singular form of one of the measurements of power is a Watt. More than one Watt would be Watts. A thousand Watts is a Kilo Watt (KW). A thousand Watts consumed for an hour is a Kilo Watt Hour (KWH - Sometimes KwH). I think we are in agreement here. Now if we can get people to use "Current" instead of "Amperage"...
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@@The_DuMont_Network Usually it's written KWh, kilowatt hour, MWh, Megawatt hour, GWh gigawatt hour. A freshly fueled nuclear reactor stores 1.5 GW years - 1,000 megawatts continuously for eighteen months. That blows away any puny chemical battery. That's why the Australian government has just cancelled its deal to buy battery submarines off the French, in favour of getting nuclear ones off the Yanks. Why get something that needs to surface and burn diesel all the time, when you can get one that goes for twenty years without needing any more fuel ?
@@2x6x250ml You would actually understand why infinite energy is possible if the world would start building THORIUM nuclear plants. But leftists are morons and nuclear energy = bombs in their medieval minds, so they cockblock every attempt to get one built. Nevermind that they produce as much as miles of wind or solar energy production fields.
I love Tesla and Elon and applaud his brilliance and success in improving our human situation. I do not see a balance between solar and wind power. Certainly the further north we are the more energy will be derived from wind over solar. I don’t see this balance. I see the vertical axis wind generators to be quieter, smaller, and require less maintenance than horizontal axis wind generators.
Farther north generally means a lot more hydro resources. While there's less solar in the winter there's more wind. And in the US we've yet to tap into the massive power of offshore wind. Closer to the equator means better year round solar. Grid generation needs to be designed to best fit the resources and demand for each region. There's not a lot of maintenance with HAWTs. Current engineering designs in sensors to spot problems when they are minor and make it easier to swap out parts.
At 9:30, I think you're wrong there. Powerwall is also available with their retrofit solar panels (non solar roof, more traditional style panels) as well as just having powerwalls on their own. Could be mistaken though.
Quite frankly, I have been trying to tweet directly to Elon to provide solar battery solutions to the US military for desert deployed units. But, congressional contracts sort of suck.
IMO I think in addition to wind and solar and lithium batteries (LFP going forward) we and Tesla need thermal batteries or other batteries. LFP is great for Frequency control and grid stabilization and for 4 hours or so but we need more. Tesla mega packs and residential power walls and VPPs would have helped Texas but would have been well, well, short of saving Texas. Tesla mega packs play to Tesla's strength and (dare I say it?) are a moat of sorts in that Tesla uses their software and Lithium battery skills to gain an edge.
LCOE for nuclear is five times solar after ten years that it takes to get one built the cost of solar could drop by 80% making nuclear 20 times higher giving you zero market Really bad idea. To get the most from nuclear, you must run it at 100% which means batteries will be needed when demand is low. Nuclear is dead because investors will not see a return for a decade and even then, they may not even make enough to pay for maintenance. Only works if gov’t will guarantee to buy all the power over the life of the reactor which will waste a ton of money that could go into renewables.
@@colingenge9999 I'm a truck driver not a Physicist or Engineer. However, Kirk Sorenson is. I've watched his videos on UA-cam about LFTR. These CANNOT melt down like Chernobyl or Fukushima. Also, the margin of safety against terrorism is substantially higher. Producing solar panels is very toxic process from what I understand. New reactors can eat the waste from Light water reactors. You should check it out. Pandora's Promise is a good documentary on the subject.
@@colingenge9999 nonsense, there are new/smaller/modular and cheaper nuclear power plants/reactors being developped to significantly reduce the cost and building times. Those nuclear power plants use very little land and produce crap ton of electricity 24/7 and even heat to cities around.
There is going to be pros and cons all of it but the whole outcome will benefit and whereThereis Determination and will then the challenges will be overcome thank you for these videos
meh. although i'm no Abbott fan, this is a misreading of his m.o. if a local government in Texas were to require ev's, he'd likely overrule that but, it's unlikely he even *could* outlaw ev's even if he wanted. after all, Tesla is building it's biggest factory to date outside Austin, will be a major employer.
Tesla MegaPack (3 MWh) for $1.2M is $400/kWh. If the battery survives 2000 cycles (which is stretching it) that would mean that charging and discharging still adds 20 cts/kWh. That is much lower than it used to be but still prohibitively high for large scale utility storage. The price of batteries still needs to come down another factor of 10 (down to 2 cts/kWh per charge/discharge cycle) to price fossil fuels out if the market on a truly massive scale. That CAN be done, but probably not with lithium-ion batteries...
One of the biggest problems living in the northeast or any snow covered state is when ice gets on the trees near power lines and the trees come down and take out the power lines. The power companies for years says its too expensive to do underground power. Same problem with telco and cable utilities they are no willing to invest in getting high speed internet to all the different areas of the country. Now with Starlink thats going to effect these two industries who've been slowed to innovate and solve customers problems.
am located here in Abuja Nigeria. we have chronic power supply problems here. It's even worst in other parts of the country. Such a total compact power solution will be 100% winner here. At the moment practically every householder runs a generator in Nigeria. It's extremely expensive affair, also a terrible noise and air pollutant. Tesla energy could become a great solution for developing countries similar to what mobile phones did for the telecommunications sector. We are all willing total success to Elon musk and Tesla efforts to transform our planet by effiecnt, clean and safe energy source . Thanking you all.
Don't you guys have a couple of months with not much sun, in the rainy season ? At least you wouldn't need the generator the rest of the year, but a decent, reliable grid would be much better.
"3 days of snow, both the wind and solar" This year it was cold not snow causing the problems. Solar even produced more than expected. What is the problem with wind and winter? They work well in the biggest winters of Canada and Scandinavia.
@@bokoloaranyfa3824 snow can easily cover up solar panels completely, and the wind turbines in Texas actually froze because they weren’t equipped with cold weather packages. Yes wind turbines operate fine there in the winter. I should have added in Texas but I assumed people would understand that as the video is about Texas.
Depending on the angle of repose, the snow starts to slide off pretty quickly. Also utility scale PV can employ people to help clear the panels in these extreme cases. But to your point, no system is perfect. The best solution is a balanced and diverse energy portfolio, which we do not have. Too much reliance on natural gas power plants, which were not properly weatherized, as well as natural gas wells and compressor stations that failed due to icing (lack of glycol). Battery storage will absolutely help.
@@johnmolloy4878 "Battery storage will absolutely help." In the 2021 blackout 34GW power was missing. Tesla is just building a 0.1GWh battery. It would have helped for 10 seconds. The purpose of these batteries is too smooth small spikes of load on the grid.
I am TEXAN. Just to be clear this is a first hand perspective of a texas utility customer with NO political influences. I will also point out that I live in a major city with population around 1/4 million people, not huge but not small. I was also here for the winter storm that knocked out power for about a week for most of us. OBVIOUSLY that was a black mark on the power grid and everything involved with that and not something I'm eager to repeat. Yes some people died from that natural disaster but lets be honest, it wasn't that many when compared to things like deaths from car accidents that kill over 100 people on average every day all year, year after year. Personally I'm rather proud of the system we have here though I personally have no professional affiliation with any part of it. However I see federal regulation in places like california and still the have massive blackouts year after years. CLEARLY federal regulation and even being tied into the national grid does NOT solve these problems. The other thing I see is that despite claims that similar situations have happen in recent years and repeatedly in texas I simply have not seen this. My power has never been off for more than most of a single day for any reason. While there have been around 2 dozen power outages in the last 10 years or so only a few lasted more than even a few minutes before power was restored. 3 that I can remember other than the winter storm lasted more than an hour. Neither myself no anyone I know in texas concerns themselves on a daily basis or even before large storms role through about whether or not the power will stay on. We expect it to because that is normal. Not power failure. Also while nobody likes paying bills objectively I understand that due to deregulation our power bills are among the lowest in the country, even the world. So for a product that is 99.99% always available and the lest expensive around I'm a happy customer when it comes to our electricity providers. I honestly believe that most of what has been made of the recent winter storm was purely politically motivated while both sides attempted to blame the other rather than honestly evaluating what changes needed to be made to prevent any possibility of a future recurrence. P.S. How my wife an I got through the storm. Again, honestly while somewhat inconvenient it wasn't that bad. Largely because we have seen enough natural disasters to take the most rudimentary precautions. We have enough food to last us a few weeks if need be. We don't let our medications run completely out before getting refills. We have a tiny camping stove which runs on little propane bottles, The whole setup was less than 100 bucks so we were eating hot food through the entire ordeal. I even had a tiny power inverter that plugs into the car. You can get these for $30 or less ez. So I took the battery out of the car, we wern't going to be able to drive anywhere anyone, and use it with the power inverter to keep our phones charged the entire time. I could have charged our phones off that one battery for a month and it would still have enough power to start the car. So we spent most of the storm in bed with a couple extra blankets on playing on our phones and watching youtube. Apparently the cell towers were fine and had their own backup power. I didn't even let the food in the fridge go bad. I got trash bags and filled them with snow. Then packed those bags into the freezer and fridge. Several days into the blackout a friend called me and let me know of a generator for sale. We didn't need it at that point but it did open up some possibilities so I went and got it. With that small generator I was able to run my fridge, microwave, and central heater. Once that was up and running we offered our home to several other families so they could also stay warm for the rest of the storm. If there is a moral to the story, the news lies to get views. Politicials lie to get votes. And you cant rely 100% on anything so plan ahead. Even tiny little things can make a huge difference in a disaster / survival situation. I am NOT a "survivalist". I don't think I could drink my own urin if my life depended on it. But I can buy a campstove and have a few extra blankets around. I can buy a generator when the oportunity presents itself and use what I have to help not only my own family but others as well who will hopefully be more prepared themselves if there is ever a next time.
@@ronaldlenz5745 sure did, and on top of that I had about 10 gallons of clean drinking water. I used old apple juice jars as they are glass, easy to clean, and re sealable but anything similar would work. They were in the garage but moved to the bedroom initially as our body heat and insulation kept that room above freezing. So we had plenty of fresh drinking water. If this had run out, if the storm had lasted that long, i could easily have boiled snow to make more clean water. Survival isn't one giant insurmountable task. Its just a bunch of little things that add up. Some of those can be done before there is ever a problem. Usually when I see people who die in situations like this its sad to realize that they had what they needed they just didn't know how to use it.
@@AudiTTQuattro2003 your argument seems valid but I'm afraid you are not looking at the big picture. Despite what misinformation you may have heard in the news this was the worst storm Texas has seen in over 130 years. Not only in magnitude but in scope. Normally 2/3 of the state could lose power and there would still be enough to redirect for emergency situations and that hasnt' even happen before. The fact that this storm was not only so bad but also covered the entire state, which is massive compared to most state created an unprecedented event that no reasonable person could have predicted. Its ez to sit back and say "your stuff wasn't winterized" but in fact it was winterized above an beyond anything that could have been predicted. It was not winterized to levels far beyond what could have been predicted because that is a huge waste of time and money. You don't see power plants in Alaska prepping their systems to deal with 125 degree weather. Yet if some freak heatwave hit the country would cry "you didn't prepare". Obviously Texas power providers have reset the bar for what they should prepare for but if another significantly worse storm hits that again no one could have reasonably predicted the severity of then once again the power grid will fail and people everywhere will once again cry " you should have paid more and been more prepared ". Ultimately the reality of the situation is that due to geographic factors beyond our control Texas has wild swings in temperature. As a result we have some of the worst variations in weather on the planet. We also have greater variety in energy production than any other state. Nuclear, wind, solar, gas, coal, oil, etc. This more than anything is why federal regulation will never work for Texas and why it would be a disaster if it ever happen. If federal regulation solved energy problems California wouldn't have blackout EVERY YEAR. Paying less is not a side effect of cutting corners. Its a side effect of having a much more efficient system than the rest of the country. All of these companies that failed during the storm have already fixed the problem. Prices adjusted accordingly and we still have just about the cheapest electricity around. If it were up to federal regulators they would still be assembling a committee to investigate the cause of the blackout and nothing worthwhile would ever get done. When the committee gone done and policies started being implemented they would put out blanket polices that might work well for one type of energy production and be completely useless for another type. Ultimately billions would be spent on useless upgrades that would have no positive effect but would make it look like the committee was "getting stuff done". Remember that government regulation is not a blanket solution to anything. The government regulates driving, and yet 40+thousand people a year DIE from car accidents. Despite wanting even more control the government regulates firearms and yet 16+thousand people a year DIE from guns. The list goes on. 111 people died in Texas during the winter storm. While this is tragic you have to remember that is across a population of 29,000,000 people. About 410 people die in Texas EVERY DAY as a result of a variety of things the leaders being heart disease, cancer, stroke, etc. So during the same time period that 111 died from the storm that almost 6,000 Texans died for reasons completely unrelated to the storm. Also remember that under government regulation over 100 people die EVERY SINGLE DAY across the country from traffic accidents. So what I'm saying is that government regulation has proven it would not have solved this problem. More insulation would have but there was no reasonable argument to prepare for a storm worse than had been recorded in over 130 years on a planet that is steadily getting warmer and warmer. The people who died from the storm was drastically lower than those who died of other reasons during the same time frame. Finally the needed changes to even further winterize the texas power plants has already been done on a significant number of power plants where government regulators would still be trying to figure out what went wrong. I have more faith in the Texas power grid now than I would in the power grid of any other state at the moment. Regardless it is up to each of us as individuals to prepared to protect ourselves and our families when natural disasters happen. No amount of preparation can protect a power grid from a hurricane or a tornado both of which are also common in Texas. So plan ahead. What will you do if disaster sticks you area?
right on Texas congrats for thee world for to have Texas keep push ing for us all Texas tesla all countries round world way to go California needs it too new York also
Hi Tesla Space. Thanks for the good research on the topic. Have you heard about EnergyVault's approach to store energy by gravity? Isn't that much more efficient and environmentally sustainable? Would be intrested in getting to know your opinion on this technic and topic... Thanks!
I see some major roadblocks. Even though Texas is trending purple, the government is solid red and not amenable to alternative energies. There's also a fair amount of corruption involved and I don't think govt will cotton to interlopers. So I don't think they have laws allowing customers to sell back their power, for instance. But I wish Tesla all the luck.
If they can go to space they can start an electricity company ! But can you buy a loose powerwall ? Or do you need the tesla solarroof. Cause i already have that .
@@mythicallegendary3992 They stopped selling them stand alone, because they can't keep up with the demand. They used to sell them to get rid of excess battery production. If they want to return to the market, they should switch over to LFP like every other home storage supplier.
Elon stated it would “only” take 100 sq. Mi’s. Of solar panels to have sustainable energy for the USA. Another 10% of that for storeage. Where is he going to find that land…on top of our roofs! Massive energy storeage dramatically changes the game! The complaint about EV’s is you still get your energy from public utility (oil, ngas,coal)now he has the alternative, including charging stations. Also working on a miniature nuclear reactor, for small cities, safer design, portable, yes….a sustainable form of energy.
@@mizzshortie907 that's what i thought. There used to be plenty of pool water heating elements on the roof. Not anymore. Im in sw Florida and it's very disappointing. Especially in new big developments. Electricity is too cheap. Edit: they do cut down trees for bigger installments next to the university that get lots of news .
So, I've heard where homes with the Tesla home battery systems are being used in some states to FEED BACK into the grid during times of grid-stress, You get PAID at a reasonable rate, and your home battery system can go back into the state grid system when demand is greater than what the power companies can handle. The home systems don't have to be hooked up to solar, but can be utilized from ANY SOURCE to recharge them. SOUNDS like a win - win situation. I would rather see our federal & state governments backing home batteries rather than selling more EVs! But electric power companies have a lot of political pull (and money) to get their way.
We need all the Tesla cars connected to the net. It will be the best battery buffer ever. if all cars will be10 hours+ connected to the grid is enough to get good clean and local energy during the whole day.
Your House can install on grid or hybrid Solar system with 6KW or 12KW for use, your house can save Energy each month, you can sell excess Energy to gird of Power company
During the Texas freeze our wind farms were not functioning and I know people with solar panels on their houses that were without power due to the ice and snow on their panels.
I have Tesla solar and Power Wall in California in case fire risk requires securing power. With my usage, solar, and storage capacity I am independent pretty much for ever. If there is an unusually long period of cloudy days that coincides with a power outage I have a backup NG generator. My home power system is far more reliable than any utility.
It's an expense to equip all the cars for something that will be seldom used that's hard to pass on to every car buyer and to much to absorb right now. It takes some changes to the systen and electronics that are more than it would seem to have this work right and not possibly be a problem for the car. And the house needs expensive work to make it work as well. Not anywhere as easy as it sounds. Watch and see Ford will have issues with it on the lighting. Just consider that Elon would very much want that feature but he's not done it and few if any of the other manufactures are trying it either.
Tesla vehicles have the equivalent of about three Powerwalls if I am not mistaken, so at some point the vehicles should have an option to utilize the vehicles as part of the system. Vehicle to grid technology would be a HUGE addition to the Tesla Energy system, especially with millions of vehicles connected in that way.
@@EverandAssoc One would assume it would connect through the same system as a Powerwall, but since the technology isn't yet offered, we'll just have to wait to see.
Hi, I have a question: Wouldn't wind mills be more efficient if they were smaller and placed in similar locations as we do internet dishes. If we make them smaller than they could placed on the corners of buildings instead of knocking down fields and Mountains that we actually need.
Where Tesla could shine in Texas is with the co-ops. Currently Texas has a significant number of local co-op utilities. With most of them run off natural gas fired turbines. Tesla could have a massive impact with the co-ops. Instead of having 100% of their energy prices based on the natural gas spot price. Tesla could sell their solar power/Wind Turbine/batteries to the local co-ops allowing them to be independent from the spot price of natural gas. I find it hard to believe Tesla can produce enough energy to prevent ERCOT from having to shut down. Tesla can retail sale to ERCOT consumers. Tesla can generate electricity for ERCOT consumers. But Tesla cannot prevent EROCT from shutting down the grid due to excessive demand and low generation.
Only in some of the Texas counties that border other states and are connected to the national grid. There were portions of the state on the edges that did not suffer the same as most of the state.
The capacitance deployed is tiny relative to energy demand, a few hours output from a large nuclear reactor globally. This kind of battery tends to lose roughly half its capacity over 5 years. This stuff would work great if people knew how to run on 50 W instead of about 5000 W. This is not as ridiculous as it sounds, at least for domestic consumption, as I know from managing fine on 50 W or less for many years. Pv panel output is quite high allowing for timing of heavy applications such as cooking when the sun shines. PV panels are also quite durable (20 yrs+). The main problem is that people use energy at a vastly higher rate than is necessary to sustain essential living requirements. The power architecture described will be ineffective unless this problem is addressed.
You’re crazy buddy in Texas the electricity is not cheap I been living here for couple year I moved from California and here the electric company charge crazy amounts $100 to $300 a month that’s a lot
No. Keep Elon doing what he is doing. Don't poison him with politicitis. Surely we can find a politician who has not been bought and paid for by the auto dealers, petroleum and union interests, one who can govern properly.
While Texas does not import electricity. They are a major exporter of renewable energy. Texas has massive high voltage transmission lines that export Wind Turbine generated electricity out of the state.
I am still looking for an integrated Tesla wind and solar energy farm. Also, watching for vertical axis wind generation, since they require less maintenance and are much quieter for consumers than standard horizontal axis wind generation.
I see no signs that Tesla is interested in building wind farms. Other companies can build the wind farms and integration can happen inside the grid. I've yet to see any data that supports vertical axis wind turbines producing less expensive electricity. A few hundred were built early in our wind industry startup days but didn't prove out. The best winds are up high. We need to get our turbine hub heights up to around 140 meters where we should get capacity factors from 60% to over 70%. That's almost 2x more electricity produced compared to a turbine with an 80 meter hub height. It doesn't cost much more to make the tower higher. By going higher the cost of wind generation drops. And if we get up around 140 meters there is good wind all across the US, reducing transmission costs.
Tesla is full on dependent on execution. They have the products and they have the demand, now they just need to execute on the plan, produce the products and get them into their customer hands. Now in my opinion it isn't really a question whether Tesla will execute on the plan, but whether how quick and cost efficient they will be able to achieve this. Can't wait to see the results.
South Australia is a State in Australia. West of South Australia is Western Australia. East of South Australia is the State of Victoria. Yes South Australia is in the middle of southern Australia but it's name is South Australia. Cheers Gray
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Naw we defnitely sell surplus power outside of the state.
Wait for Kalki avatar Ironman after 2026 he will dominate over the cosmos not just earth 😎😎😎😎😎
I live in Indiana, and I really hope Tesla takes over the energy scene! Even here in Indiana! Electric companies are too greedy and our bills are way too high!
CCP (Chinese communist party) backed Tesla only makes power more expensive and less reliable. EG CA Blackouts: Look up when unreliable wind and solar replace reliable sources like coal, oil, gas and nuclear!
@@ThomasLee123 - The battery is a major part of solar and wind production. Over production builds up a "charge" in the battery banks that then gets used when there is not enough production. Not only is the concept and process not new, it has been used very succesfuly in many places. As to Tesla making power more expensive... Yeah, no. Adding more of a product to the supply almost never causes the price to go up. In the case of Tesla, the cost to Tesla included the power production and the power storage units. All of that is a part of the cost of the power. The external that Tesla is not dealing with directly will be the power transmission infrastructure. Consumers pay for that with the company that supplies power to them. Those same companies buy power from other companies and/or produce power themselves that is transported through the power grid to the end consumers.
This is where the batteries at the consumer location become so important. By using these batteries, you can load level the demand and reduce or eliminate the use of power peaker plants during peak usage. These plants are very expensive to maintain and to use. Eliminating the need for these plants is a large savings for the power consumer.
As to the CCP's implementation, I know nothing about what they have done. if they are experiencing what you say, they are doing it incorrectly.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaking_power_plant
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He's proving that money can be made while providing needed change; im confident these technologies will be adapted to every country and their climates respectively. The as an American citizen i am honored to have elon and his team using the power and technologies we have to bring the standard of living for all to a prosperous level
@@Notthatguy23 "He's proving that money can be made while providing needed change; im confident these technologies will be adapted to every country and their climates respectively."
While it is true about needed change, many utilities are fighting like mad to make it illegal and/or fiscally problematic for a system like this to be put into place in their areas (state by state)
Texas has the most optimal spot for renewable energy possibly in the entire world.
They have millions of acres flat land that all have huge solar and wind resource. It will soon be known as the "battery / wind / solar" belt. Texas led in fossil fuels, they'll lead in renewables too.
Battery economics get scary good when you have good wind and solar assets overlaid on top of one another. Illinois and Indiana are another 2 examples of states with very good wind and solar resources.
Wind + Solar + very little batteries = cheapest baseload. This has been figured out and it's spreading exponentially.
How many endangered birds will you kill with these ugly monsters?
Were are actually those batteries?! Everything is still super expensive even at consumer/house perspective.
@@ThomasLee123 probably less than the endangered and non endangered birds and animals and humans that would die otherwise with status quo
Well ...... I think New Mexico is right up there.
@@ThomasLee123 how much wildlife is killed by digging up and burning oil and creating global warming, and by ecological disasters like the Deepwater explosion and oil spill that happen in the pursuit of more oil?
There is no comparison. Wind farms are far safer for wildlife and the planet.
This will be a slow acceptance rate in the beginning, but people are wanting to have a reliable source of power for their homes and are willing to buy technology they probably wouldn't invest in otherwise. As an Austinite, I can tell you that people were scared back in February. I attended a funeral for my husband's friend who passed from the freezing temperatures. If ERCOT can't provide the necessary energy to protect our lives, then Texans will provide for their own selves. Tesla energy will eventually dominate Texas, let's say 10 years.
I believe it will happen faster than most expect it to. I hope so!
Tell me tell you guys this, This will cause a Big Rate Hike forsure, Yes Will get uninterrupted service for a Price, Their Stock Holders need to make money, Monopoly is a Bad Thing. You guys don't need a car company managing your grid
@@cessealbeach So, are you suggesting that someone should make the Texas power grid more reliable, more efficient, and be able to serve the future needs of Texas without electricity rates increasing a little? What is the cost of power failures?
As with new technology it will be a massive competitive advantage, and disadvantage due to cost of innovation.
They will eventually become manufactures of components to all the new companies that wish to build these new solar power plants. And tesla will take a piece off the top while will pay them for the innovation and risk they took
Like their cars and FSD
This is an EXCELLENT video!
The content and narration are easy to understand.
It conveys a lot of complex information in a very user-friendly way
All I can say is - I'm buying TSLA. YMMV.
Born and raised Austin (don't hold it against me) and I can tell you many of us are fed-up with how the snowpocalypse affected us and our ability to not only work but to care for others and for ourselves. We've been iffy on when we'd be installing solar and battery packs into the house, but after this winter storm, we are actively saving money to get it done sooner rather than later. Thankfully we had a stash of firewood (lol yes in Austin) and my parents were able to keep warm while I was away for work (Houston).
Thank you Tesla for helping add competition into our complacent grid.
Elon will save the day! What a great dude! 😎🙌🏻❤️
I’m honestly kind of in the in between with the guy, there’s a LOT of great things I’ve seen from him, but when I looked at it from another prospective, a lot of it was dumb or false, but there’s a lot of messed up stuff that I can’t deny he’s done. I don’t really know about him anymore and think we shouldn’t exactly pick sides on who he is and just look at what he’s doing instead
@@daneadams4176 To be honest I don’t know many bad things he’s done. I guess I’m just feed the good. I’m assuming it’s environmental issues? I’m a big fan of his and believe in his over all mission. The AI he’s developing does scary me. If the tech gets into the wrong hands it could very well turn into a real life terminator scenario.... I’ll search for bad things he’s done to weight them both.
All I know is for sure I follow Elon Musk so I miss out on the future. 👍🏻
@@tripletasktv3830 yeah I can agree with that. The main problems people are talking about is how he treats his workers, but I feel like basically all workers in that department aren’t in the best case-scenario so idk. The next thing people are saying is that “he’s using slave/child labor in his mines in Africa,” that, I 100% do not believe in the slightest. He would be receiving much more backlash rn and would most likely be in jail if that were the case. But it’s basically directed toward his anger issues and stuff like that, but I think that’s pretty minor overall. Actually, I’m having a pretty hard time believing a lot of this stuff because of how many holes are in them and how little sources they give. I don’t think that side of the argument is very reliable
And also pollute woth his rockets?! Lol....
@@alanmay7929 the carbon dioxide those rockets release should be about 0.00000000561 percent of the actual amount needed to make any difference at all.
I lived in Texas in 1989 during the Arctic cold snap. It got down to -7 degrees F in Waco, Texas South of Dallas, near where I lived. It was 5 degrees in Austin and 7 degrees in Houston. I'm sorry, but the power stayed on. I read there were a few 2 hr rolling blackouts on only one day of the cold snap, but the power stayed on at our house.. My wife doesn't even remember it, because there were no problems. .....
The problem with wind and solar is that an Arctic front brings a high pressure, which means there is very little wind, and of course snow on solar panels, not to mention overcast skies. Perhaps the experience of North Platte River Power Association (NPRPA) in Northern Colorado is a cautionary tale about win and solar. The NPRPA provides power for Northern Colorado -- Ft Collins, Estes Park and Loveland. They have winds farms in Wyoming and a large solar array in Colorado. The wind farms in Wyoming froze, but an honest representative of the company said that didn't matter because there was no wind anyway. So NPRPA tried to fire up their gas powered plants, but Excel said they were prioritizing gas for residential use not electric generation. So they fired up their coal plants. They also sent out a plea for customers to conserve. They barely avoided a crash of the grid thanks to coal.
So, Arctic.front = no wind, snow, and overcast. ... And prolonged heat waves mean there is probably a High Pressure setting over you, meaning no wind too. Just when air conditioning is ramping up. The UK when 14 days with virtually no wind last summer. They got through by buying French nuclear......
So I would say you need weeks not days of energy storage. Not affordable yet in a predominately wind and solar grid.
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Tesla, neralink, and SpaceX are some of the best things to ever happen to the world.
Well done with your channel! Great quality and timely videos.
Battery production seems to be the factor slowing the widespread adoption of these technologies. As plants devoted to large scale battery production come online the economics will shift. Meanwhile, there is a heavily-financed, continuous R/D effort around the world to improve batteries by both refining existing types and creating entirely new ones. Give it about ten years. The way power is generated and transmitted will look quite different. To me it appears likely that Tesla will remain a leader in these developments. But there are certainly other companies that will achieve prominence.
The energy market is enormous. There's more than enough room for a number of very successful companies. Tesla looks like it will be one of them and is showing the path for others.
What is about to happen is Tesla going into production with its 4680 tabless, dry-rolled cells. The ones that use lithium iron phosphate (LFP) chemistry should have a cost of less than $50/kWh. Including the electronics to do the AC/DC/AC conversion the cost of storing energy should be about $50/kWh. And LFP cells have very high cycle lifetimes. 10,000 full cycles or more.
$50/kWh / 10,000 cycles = $0.005 to store electricity. For frequent cycling.
Unsubsidized wind and solar are now around $0.03/kWh and are expected to drop closer to $0.01/kWh. If we got 50% of our electricity directly from wind and solar at 2 cents and 50% from stored wind/solar at 2.5 cents it would mean the cheapest electricity we have ever enjoyed.
The cost of driving EVs would become silly-cheap. The cost of transporting materials and finished goods will drop. The cost of producing materials and goods will drop.
We're headed toward deflation, lower costs, for transportation, good, and food.
A bonus with these grid level batteries are that size and weight is not an issue so you can, as mentioned in the video, go with cheaper, more readily available materials and just use more of them, and while most of the battery parks are on flat land, in a city you could just as easily fill a few floors with batteries.
Thanks for the informative video. The units are supposed to be MWh and not MW/H. MW/H would simply a second derivative of power used by engineers to describe the rate at which a power station can ramp up or ramp down its output. Battery storage capacity must use energy units to describe it. KWh represents energy/time x time resulting in energy units derived from the power unit W.
The beauty of the irony of installing solar and wind Farms right next to oil rigs is outstanding. Coexisting right next to each other would be great.
Not only power packs but also the Tesla cars themselves can be used to store energy and feed it back to the grid if needed 👍
Exactly what I was thinking! At this point, average Tesla is close to 100 kw/h, compared to under 14 kw/h for a powerwall. That's how they can easily do x10. When Tesla is able to incentivise Tesla car owners to offer a portion of their plugged-in vehicle's range to be sold back to the grid... now we're talking!
Thanks for the comprehensive explanation, not only of Tesla's plans, but the general description of the energy landscape. I wish I could have a peek into the next decade. It's all very exciting.
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Making money while saving the world, exactly what this world needs.
It snows in San Antonio every 10 years. Amarillo every year.
The World 🌎 needs Tesla ❤
The thing that’s going to supercharge teslas virtual power plant is vehicle to house which should be possible with Tesla’s new batteries
When Tesla cars become part of the grid electricity and transport will finally be holding hands.
Next should be water and finally the IRS needs to figure out how to encourage green and Tax efficiency.
Those megapacks could help with grids that still rely on fossil fuels as well.
Elon is a disruptor. If he takes on an industry he has done his sums before. I would be surprised if he would not be successful.
The Electricity market is extremely staid and uncompetitive. It is more than ripe for a disruption.
The concept of decentralized electricity generation and storage combined with trading is extremely sound.
Elon is able to shift markets like no one else alive right now. He is creating new realities. So I bet on him to be successful.
Well a Journey starts one step at a time. This can be applied the same way.
To me this is beautiful. I live within fifteen miles of four coal burning electric generating power plants. One has shut down recently. But there are still three operating. On the road where we use to live, which is only three miles long, there were six people fighting cancer in their lungs at the same time, my wife being one of them. This road is only a few miles East of one of the largest power plants in the U.S.
Of the six people with cancer in their lungs, three have died, two have had either a whole lung or a partial lung removed and one had treatments which are not nice.
So I hope you can see why I think these solar panels, wind generators and large battery packs look beautiful to me. They are much prettier than the smoke stacks at coal burning plants that are belching out deadly pollution in our community.
And your proof is?
I will be moving to Texas soon from my current over-priced on everything location. The power grid was actually one of my concerns, so this is good news.
Great video One detail, it is MW x h, not MW / h (because energy = power x time)
WATTAGE IS OF THIS HOUSE,I GET TIRED OF CORRECTING MILLIONS OF CO.AND PEOPLE.ON 1 WATT,AND 2WATTS.
@@richardwatts8607 You want to explain that? I think you are saying:
The singular form of one of the measurements of power is a Watt. More than one Watt would be Watts. A thousand Watts is a Kilo Watt (KW). A thousand Watts consumed for an hour is a Kilo Watt Hour (KWH - Sometimes KwH). I think we are in agreement here.
Now if we can get people to use "Current" instead of "Amperage"...
@@The_DuMont_Network THE TITLE OF SIR JAMES WATT,IS TO A FIRST SON.THAT I AM HOWEVER 150 YRS.AGO MY FAMILY LEFT SCOTLAND TODAY THERE NO SCOTTISH PARLAMWNT.ALL YOU WROTE IS TRUE.I HAVE SO MUCH TO UNDERSTAND.TERAWATT,GEGAWATT,ANY MORE THAN ONE WATT IS WATTS.YES,HOW TO JUSTIFY.THANK YOU.
@@The_DuMont_Network Usually it's written KWh, kilowatt hour, MWh, Megawatt hour, GWh gigawatt hour. A freshly fueled nuclear reactor stores 1.5 GW years - 1,000 megawatts continuously for eighteen months. That blows away any puny chemical battery. That's why the Australian government has just cancelled its deal to buy battery submarines off the French, in favour of getting nuclear ones off the Yanks. Why get something that needs to surface and burn diesel all the time, when you can get one that goes for twenty years without needing any more fuel ?
@@2x6x250ml You would actually understand why infinite energy is possible if the world would start building THORIUM nuclear plants.
But leftists are morons and nuclear energy = bombs in their medieval minds, so they cockblock every attempt to get one built.
Nevermind that they produce as much as miles of wind or solar energy production fields.
Elon can and will do it! I live in New York and I cant wait until Tesla replaces the old electric grid
I love Tesla and Elon and applaud his brilliance and success in improving our human situation. I do not see a balance between solar and wind power. Certainly the further north we are the more energy will be derived from wind over solar. I don’t see this balance. I see the vertical axis wind generators to be quieter, smaller, and require less maintenance than horizontal axis wind generators.
Farther north generally means a lot more hydro resources. While there's less solar in the winter there's more wind. And in the US we've yet to tap into the massive power of offshore wind. Closer to the equator means better year round solar.
Grid generation needs to be designed to best fit the resources and demand for each region.
There's not a lot of maintenance with HAWTs. Current engineering designs in sensors to spot problems when they are minor and make it easier to swap out parts.
At 9:30, I think you're wrong there. Powerwall is also available with their retrofit solar panels (non solar roof, more traditional style panels) as well as just having powerwalls on their own. Could be mistaken though.
Its great that Texas serves as a test bed for this idea. Doing it nationwide would be cost prohibitive.
Its sad that hundreds had to die before anyone stepped up to the plate.
Tesla and Texas sound like a match made in heaven. Maybe Texas will one day power much of the nation.
Quite frankly, I have been trying to tweet directly to Elon to provide solar battery solutions to the US military for desert deployed units. But, congressional contracts sort of suck.
@benji I am IN the US military.
IMO I think in addition to wind and solar and lithium batteries (LFP going forward) we and Tesla need thermal batteries or other batteries. LFP is great for Frequency control and grid stabilization and for 4 hours or so but we need more. Tesla mega packs and residential power walls and VPPs would have helped Texas but would have been well, well, short of saving Texas.
Tesla mega packs play to Tesla's strength and (dare I say it?) are a moat of sorts in that Tesla uses their software and Lithium battery skills to gain an edge.
N U C L E A R!!! 4th and 5th generation.
LCOE for nuclear is five times solar after ten years that it takes to get one built the cost of solar could drop by 80% making nuclear 20 times higher giving you zero market Really bad idea. To get the most from nuclear, you must run it at 100% which means batteries will be needed when demand is low. Nuclear is dead because investors will not see a return for a decade and even then, they may not even make enough to pay for maintenance. Only works if gov’t will guarantee to buy all the power over the life of the reactor which will waste a ton of money that could go into renewables.
@@colingenge9999 I'm a truck driver not a Physicist or Engineer. However, Kirk Sorenson is. I've watched his videos on UA-cam about LFTR. These CANNOT melt down like Chernobyl or Fukushima. Also, the margin of safety against terrorism is substantially higher. Producing solar panels is very toxic process from what I understand. New reactors can eat the waste from Light water reactors. You should check it out. Pandora's Promise is a good documentary on the subject.
@@colingenge9999 nonsense, there are new/smaller/modular and cheaper nuclear power plants/reactors being developped to significantly reduce the cost and building times. Those nuclear power plants use very little land and produce crap ton of electricity 24/7 and even heat to cities around.
@@colingenge9999 nuclear will also seriously help the heavy industries where gigantic amount of energy is needed 24/7.
Nuclear IS part of the full system we need. It will be MANY years before a new plant is built. We may see one on the moon first.
Tesla is a big company but We didn't think it would be as big ..So I believe they'll continue to amaze us
What is the consumer cost per Kwh? I pay $0.13 per kwh now.
Tesla is amazing.
Imagine selling million's of cars and owning there electric fuel stations. I bet other's are dead jealous 🤣🤣🤣
I hope they do take over, since the is 30 years of history of not learning from mistakes.
There is going to be pros and cons all of it but the whole outcome will benefit and whereThereis Determination and will then the challenges will be overcome thank you for these videos
Greg Abbott will outlaw Green EVs .. the dude is on a roll.
meh. although i'm no Abbott fan, this is a misreading of his m.o. if a local government in Texas were to require ev's, he'd likely overrule that but, it's unlikely he even *could* outlaw ev's even if he wanted. after all, Tesla is building it's biggest factory to date outside Austin, will be a major employer.
Wow, life is moving faster ea day..
Tesla in a free market will eat their competitors alive.
road to 100k!!
SWB is the future. (Solar Wind and Batteries)
Tesla MegaPack (3 MWh) for $1.2M is $400/kWh.
If the battery survives 2000 cycles (which is stretching it) that would mean that charging and discharging still adds 20 cts/kWh. That is much lower than it used to be but still prohibitively high for large scale utility storage.
The price of batteries still needs to come down another factor of 10 (down to 2 cts/kWh per charge/discharge cycle) to price fossil fuels out if the market on a truly massive scale.
That CAN be done, but probably not with lithium-ion batteries...
One of the biggest problems living in the northeast or any snow covered state is when ice gets on the trees near power lines and the trees come down and take out the power lines. The power companies for years says its too expensive to do underground power. Same problem with telco and cable utilities they are no willing to invest in getting high speed internet to all the different areas of the country. Now with Starlink thats going to effect these two industries who've been slowed to innovate and solve customers problems.
am located here in Abuja Nigeria. we have chronic power supply problems here. It's even worst in other parts of the country. Such a total compact power solution will be 100% winner here. At the moment practically every householder runs a generator in Nigeria. It's extremely expensive affair, also a terrible noise and air pollutant. Tesla energy could become a great solution for developing countries similar to what mobile phones did for the telecommunications sector. We are all willing total success to Elon musk and Tesla efforts to transform our planet by effiecnt, clean and safe energy source . Thanking you all.
Don't you guys have a couple of months with not much sun, in the rainy season ? At least you wouldn't need the generator the rest of the year, but a decent, reliable grid would be much better.
3:46 I’m sorry to say but with 3 days of snow, both the wind and solar energy production will fail
"3 days of snow, both the wind and solar"
This year it was cold not snow causing the problems. Solar even produced more than expected.
What is the problem with wind and winter? They work well in the biggest winters of Canada and Scandinavia.
@@bokoloaranyfa3824 snow can easily cover up solar panels completely, and the wind turbines in Texas actually froze because they weren’t equipped with cold weather packages. Yes wind turbines operate fine there in the winter. I should have added in Texas but I assumed people would understand that as the video is about Texas.
Depending on the angle of repose, the snow starts to slide off pretty quickly. Also utility scale PV can employ people to help clear the panels in these extreme cases. But to your point, no system is perfect. The best solution is a balanced and diverse energy portfolio, which we do not have. Too much reliance on natural gas power plants, which were not properly weatherized, as well as natural gas wells and compressor stations that failed due to icing (lack of glycol). Battery storage will absolutely help.
@@johnmolloy4878 "Battery storage will absolutely help."
In the 2021 blackout 34GW power was missing. Tesla is just building a 0.1GWh battery. It would have helped for 10 seconds.
The purpose of these batteries is too smooth small spikes of load on the grid.
@@bokoloaranyfa3824 Yes that's the purpose right now. Peak shaving and frequency stabilization. However, it can be scaled. It will take time...
Make money and save the world. Win/Win for Tesla long.
I am TEXAN. Just to be clear this is a first hand perspective of a texas utility customer with NO political influences. I will also point out that I live in a major city with population around 1/4 million people, not huge but not small. I was also here for the winter storm that knocked out power for about a week for most of us. OBVIOUSLY that was a black mark on the power grid and everything involved with that and not something I'm eager to repeat. Yes some people died from that natural disaster but lets be honest, it wasn't that many when compared to things like deaths from car accidents that kill over 100 people on average every day all year, year after year. Personally I'm rather proud of the system we have here though I personally have no professional affiliation with any part of it. However I see federal regulation in places like california and still the have massive blackouts year after years. CLEARLY federal regulation and even being tied into the national grid does NOT solve these problems. The other thing I see is that despite claims that similar situations have happen in recent years and repeatedly in texas I simply have not seen this. My power has never been off for more than most of a single day for any reason. While there have been around 2 dozen power outages in the last 10 years or so only a few lasted more than even a few minutes before power was restored. 3 that I can remember other than the winter storm lasted more than an hour. Neither myself no anyone I know in texas concerns themselves on a daily basis or even before large storms role through about whether or not the power will stay on. We expect it to because that is normal. Not power failure. Also while nobody likes paying bills objectively I understand that due to deregulation our power bills are among the lowest in the country, even the world. So for a product that is 99.99% always available and the lest expensive around I'm a happy customer when it comes to our electricity providers. I honestly believe that most of what has been made of the recent winter storm was purely politically motivated while both sides attempted to blame the other rather than honestly evaluating what changes needed to be made to prevent any possibility of a future recurrence.
P.S. How my wife an I got through the storm. Again, honestly while somewhat inconvenient it wasn't that bad. Largely because we have seen enough natural disasters to take the most rudimentary precautions. We have enough food to last us a few weeks if need be. We don't let our medications run completely out before getting refills. We have a tiny camping stove which runs on little propane bottles, The whole setup was less than 100 bucks so we were eating hot food through the entire ordeal. I even had a tiny power inverter that plugs into the car. You can get these for $30 or less ez. So I took the battery out of the car, we wern't going to be able to drive anywhere anyone, and use it with the power inverter to keep our phones charged the entire time. I could have charged our phones off that one battery for a month and it would still have enough power to start the car. So we spent most of the storm in bed with a couple extra blankets on playing on our phones and watching youtube. Apparently the cell towers were fine and had their own backup power. I didn't even let the food in the fridge go bad. I got trash bags and filled them with snow. Then packed those bags into the freezer and fridge. Several days into the blackout a friend called me and let me know of a generator for sale. We didn't need it at that point but it did open up some possibilities so I went and got it. With that small generator I was able to run my fridge, microwave, and central heater. Once that was up and running we offered our home to several other families so they could also stay warm for the rest of the storm. If there is a moral to the story, the news lies to get views. Politicials lie to get votes. And you cant rely 100% on anything so plan ahead. Even tiny little things can make a huge difference in a disaster / survival situation. I am NOT a "survivalist". I don't think I could drink my own urin if my life depended on it. But I can buy a campstove and have a few extra blankets around. I can buy a generator when the oportunity presents itself and use what I have to help not only my own family but others as well who will hopefully be more prepared themselves if there is ever a next time.
Nice job on the simple survival skills. I presume you turned off the water supply to the house and drained the lines so the pipes didn't burst.
@@ronaldlenz5745 sure did, and on top of that I had about 10 gallons of clean drinking water. I used old apple juice jars as they are glass, easy to clean, and re sealable but anything similar would work. They were in the garage but moved to the bedroom initially as our body heat and insulation kept that room above freezing. So we had plenty of fresh drinking water. If this had run out, if the storm had lasted that long, i could easily have boiled snow to make more clean water.
Survival isn't one giant insurmountable task. Its just a bunch of little things that add up. Some of those can be done before there is ever a problem. Usually when I see people who die in situations like this its sad to realize that they had what they needed they just didn't know how to use it.
@@AudiTTQuattro2003 your argument seems valid but I'm afraid you are not looking at the big picture. Despite what misinformation you may have heard in the news this was the worst storm Texas has seen in over 130 years. Not only in magnitude but in scope. Normally 2/3 of the state could lose power and there would still be enough to redirect for emergency situations and that hasnt' even happen before. The fact that this storm was not only so bad but also covered the entire state, which is massive compared to most state created an unprecedented event that no reasonable person could have predicted. Its ez to sit back and say "your stuff wasn't winterized" but in fact it was winterized above an beyond anything that could have been predicted. It was not winterized to levels far beyond what could have been predicted because that is a huge waste of time and money. You don't see power plants in Alaska prepping their systems to deal with 125 degree weather. Yet if some freak heatwave hit the country would cry "you didn't prepare".
Obviously Texas power providers have reset the bar for what they should prepare for but if another significantly worse storm hits that again no one could have reasonably predicted the severity of then once again the power grid will fail and people everywhere will once again cry " you should have paid more and been more prepared ".
Ultimately the reality of the situation is that due to geographic factors beyond our control Texas has wild swings in temperature. As a result we have some of the worst variations in weather on the planet. We also have greater variety in energy production than any other state. Nuclear, wind, solar, gas, coal, oil, etc. This more than anything is why federal regulation will never work for Texas and why it would be a disaster if it ever happen. If federal regulation solved energy problems California wouldn't have blackout EVERY YEAR. Paying less is not a side effect of cutting corners. Its a side effect of having a much more efficient system than the rest of the country. All of these companies that failed during the storm have already fixed the problem. Prices adjusted accordingly and we still have just about the cheapest electricity around. If it were up to federal regulators they would still be assembling a committee to investigate the cause of the blackout and nothing worthwhile would ever get done. When the committee gone done and policies started being implemented they would put out blanket polices that might work well for one type of energy production and be completely useless for another type. Ultimately billions would be spent on useless upgrades that would have no positive effect but would make it look like the committee was "getting stuff done".
Remember that government regulation is not a blanket solution to anything. The government regulates driving, and yet 40+thousand people a year DIE from car accidents.
Despite wanting even more control the government regulates firearms and yet 16+thousand people a year DIE from guns.
The list goes on. 111 people died in Texas during the winter storm. While this is tragic you have to remember that is across a population of 29,000,000 people. About 410 people die in
Texas EVERY DAY as a result of a variety of things the leaders being heart disease, cancer, stroke, etc. So during the same time period that 111 died from the storm that almost 6,000 Texans died for reasons completely unrelated to the storm. Also remember that under government regulation over 100 people die EVERY SINGLE DAY across the country from traffic accidents.
So what I'm saying is that government regulation has proven it would not have solved this problem. More insulation would have but there was no reasonable argument to prepare for a storm worse than had been recorded in over 130 years on a planet that is steadily getting warmer and warmer. The people who died from the storm was drastically lower than those who died of other reasons during the same time frame. Finally the needed changes to even further winterize the texas power plants has already been done on a significant number of power plants where government regulators would still be trying to figure out what went wrong.
I have more faith in the Texas power grid now than I would in the power grid of any other state at the moment. Regardless it is up to each of us as individuals to prepared to protect ourselves and our families when natural disasters happen. No amount of preparation can protect a power grid from a hurricane or a tornado both of which are also common in Texas. So plan ahead. What will you do if disaster sticks you area?
At 1:15 I'm pretty sure you meant texas, I hope Tesla doesn't have that much lobbying power yet
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right on Texas congrats for thee world for to have Texas keep push ing for us all Texas tesla all countries round world way to go California needs it too new York also
MW/h is different to MWh. You meant the latter
He doesn't have to take over the grid.. He can focus on the vehicles and just slowly increase the electric utility.
Yes, I think tesla will eventually dominate the energy storage and supply sector
Hi Tesla Space. Thanks for the good research on the topic. Have you heard about EnergyVault's approach to store energy by gravity? Isn't that much more efficient and environmentally sustainable? Would be intrested in getting to know your opinion on this technic and topic... Thanks!
watching this using LFP battery - 100% solar charged - 5 years daily use -
works well -
I can smell 100K subs. So close
Wow, quite impressive!
Yes, loved the video.
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You say “Tesla has deregulated”. I think you meant, “Texas”
I see some major roadblocks. Even though Texas is trending purple, the government is solid red and not amenable to alternative energies. There's also a fair amount of corruption involved and I don't think govt will cotton to interlopers. So I don't think they have laws allowing customers to sell back their power, for instance. But I wish Tesla all the luck.
If it's red throw some corporate money at them. The free market decides what happens.
If need some videos about how the motors are built now I can supply you sense you know I did work there.
Tell you what
elon wants to establish a colony on mars, I think building some batteries in texas will be easier than that.
What are the litte icons flashing at several edges of the screen ...am I being programed
Tesla is an Electricity Company. It just also supplies the hardware that their electricity runs in.
If they can go to space they can start an electricity company ! But can you buy a loose powerwall ? Or do you need the tesla solarroof. Cause i already have that .
You can buy a solo battery on their site.
@@mythicallegendary3992 Don't think so.
@@mythicallegendary3992 They stopped selling them stand alone, because they can't keep up with the demand. They used to sell them to get rid of excess battery production. If they want to return to the market, they should switch over to LFP like every other home storage supplier.
@@Psi-Storm thank you, I didn’t know this!
Welcome to Texas ❤️
Elon stated it would “only” take 100 sq. Mi’s. Of solar panels to have sustainable energy for the USA. Another 10% of that for storeage.
Where is he going to find that land…on top of our roofs!
Massive energy storeage dramatically changes the game!
The complaint about EV’s is you still get your energy from public utility (oil, ngas,coal)now he has the alternative, including charging stations.
Also working on a miniature nuclear reactor, for small cities, safer design, portable, yes….a sustainable form of energy.
Texas - perfect place to demonstrate that you can do "green" energy in a Republican state. ( i wish Florida would push solar on roofs more)
I assumed they would have them everywhere being the “sunshine state”
@@mizzshortie907 that's what i thought. There used to be plenty of pool water heating elements on the roof. Not anymore.
Im in sw Florida and it's very disappointing. Especially in new big developments.
Electricity is too cheap.
Edit: they do cut down trees for bigger installments next to the university that get lots of news .
So, I've heard where homes with the Tesla home battery systems are being used in some states to FEED BACK into the grid during times of grid-stress, You get PAID at a reasonable rate, and your home battery system can go back into the state grid system when demand is greater than what the power companies can handle. The home systems don't have to be hooked up to solar, but can be utilized from ANY SOURCE to recharge them. SOUNDS like a win - win situation. I would rather see our federal & state governments backing home batteries rather than selling more EVs! But electric power companies have a lot of political pull (and money) to get their way.
We need all the Tesla cars connected to the net. It will be the best battery buffer ever. if all cars will be10 hours+ connected to the grid is enough to get good clean and local energy during the whole day.
Your House can install on grid or hybrid Solar system with 6KW or 12KW for use, your house can save Energy each month, you can sell excess Energy to gird of Power company
During the Texas freeze our wind farms were not functioning and I know people with solar panels on their houses that were without power due to the ice and snow on their panels.
I have Tesla solar and Power Wall in California in case fire risk requires securing power. With my usage, solar, and storage capacity I am independent pretty much for ever. If there is an unusually long period of cloudy days that coincides with a power outage I have a backup NG generator. My home power system is far more reliable than any utility.
why did tesla opt against vehicle to grid? wouldnt that put them in an even greater position, not even having to rely on power walls?
It's an expense to equip all the cars for something that will be seldom used that's hard to pass on to every car buyer and to much to absorb right now. It takes some changes to the systen and electronics that are more than it would seem to have this work right and not possibly be a problem for the car. And the house needs expensive work to make it work as well. Not anywhere as easy as it sounds. Watch and see Ford will have issues with it on the lighting. Just consider that Elon would very much want that feature but he's not done it and few if any of the other manufactures are trying it either.
Great video... new sub.
Someone has to brake the mold...he reinvented it....
Hope Tesla will do this in Sweden too 👍😎👍
Hello'dy, welcome to Texla.
This is exactly what Elon has been saying. The electricy business will become bigger than the car business.
Tesla vehicles have the equivalent of about three Powerwalls if I am not mistaken, so at some point the vehicles should have an option to utilize the vehicles as part of the system. Vehicle to grid technology would be a HUGE addition to the Tesla Energy system, especially with millions of vehicles connected in that way.
Where would you connect your Tesla to sell the energy back? Seems like a simple question but I’m genuinely curious
A downside is you may be degrading your battery, possibly better to use a second life EV battery for house power.
@@EverandAssoc One would assume it would connect through the same system as a Powerwall, but since the technology isn't yet offered, we'll just have to wait to see.
A PowerWall is 13.5 kWh. A Model 3 long range is 82 kWh. A Model 3 is 6+ PowerWalls..
@@340wbymag good point, the battery used for this would have to be LFP (lithium iron phosphate)
Hi, I have a question:
Wouldn't wind mills be more efficient if they were smaller and placed in similar locations as we do internet dishes. If we make them smaller than they could placed on the corners of buildings instead of knocking down fields and Mountains that we actually need.
Where Tesla could shine in Texas is with the co-ops. Currently Texas has a significant number of local co-op utilities. With most of them run off natural gas fired turbines. Tesla could have a massive impact with the co-ops. Instead of having 100% of their energy prices based on the natural gas spot price. Tesla could sell their solar power/Wind Turbine/batteries to the local co-ops allowing them to be independent from the spot price of natural gas. I find it hard to believe Tesla can produce enough energy to prevent ERCOT from having to shut down. Tesla can retail sale to ERCOT consumers. Tesla can generate electricity for ERCOT consumers. But Tesla cannot prevent EROCT from shutting down the grid due to excessive demand and low generation.
You are wrong Electrical providers in other States can push power to Texas. Sure Texas is isolated in general but they can get power from other states
Only in some of the Texas counties that border other states and are connected to the national grid. There were portions of the state on the edges that did not suffer the same as most of the state.
When the grid is down you cant push anything.
Lol @ the megapack page
"order with card"
The capacitance deployed is tiny relative to energy demand, a few hours output from a large nuclear reactor globally. This kind of battery tends to lose roughly half its capacity over 5 years. This stuff would work great if people knew how to run on 50 W instead of about 5000 W. This is not as ridiculous as it sounds, at least for domestic consumption, as I know from managing fine on 50 W or less for many years. Pv panel output is quite high allowing for timing of heavy applications such as cooking when the sun shines. PV panels are also quite durable (20 yrs+).
The main problem is that people use energy at a vastly higher rate than is necessary to sustain essential living requirements. The power architecture described will be ineffective unless this problem is addressed.
You’re crazy buddy in Texas the electricity is not cheap I been living here for couple year I moved from California and here the electric company charge crazy amounts $100 to $300 a month that’s a lot
Wish we could get Starlink here in Texas!
Nice update!
Elon Musk for Governor of Texas - 2022.
Yes
No. Keep Elon doing what he is doing. Don't poison him with politicitis. Surely we can find a politician who has not been bought and paid for by the auto dealers, petroleum and union interests, one who can govern properly.
I sure hope not ... we need him working.
While Texas does not import electricity. They are a major exporter of renewable energy. Texas has massive high voltage transmission lines that export Wind Turbine generated electricity out of the state.
I am still looking for an integrated Tesla wind and solar energy farm. Also, watching for vertical axis wind generation, since they require less maintenance and are much quieter for consumers than standard horizontal axis wind generation.
I see no signs that Tesla is interested in building wind farms. Other companies can build the wind farms and integration can happen inside the grid.
I've yet to see any data that supports vertical axis wind turbines producing less expensive electricity. A few hundred were built early in our wind industry startup days but didn't prove out.
The best winds are up high. We need to get our turbine hub heights up to around 140 meters where we should get capacity factors from 60% to over 70%. That's almost 2x more electricity produced compared to a turbine with an 80 meter hub height. It doesn't cost much more to make the tower higher. By going higher the cost of wind generation drops.
And if we get up around 140 meters there is good wind all across the US, reducing transmission costs.
Tesla is full on dependent on execution. They have the products and they have the demand, now they just need to execute on the plan, produce the products and get them into their customer hands. Now in my opinion it isn't really a question whether Tesla will execute on the plan, but whether how quick and cost efficient they will be able to achieve this. Can't wait to see the results.
Excellent video
South Australia is a State in Australia. West of South Australia is Western Australia. East of South Australia is the State of Victoria.
Yes South Australia is in the middle of southern Australia but it's name is South Australia. Cheers Gray
If I had the money, I would build a network of tesla solar/battery cells. Put the power generation where the need is located.
I have two Tesla Powerwalls. I'd be happy to sell 10kWh / day at 50c / kWh. That would earn me $1824 / year.