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I love the guy that says “PEGI 18” at the start of trailers
And PEGI 16 and PEGI 12
And PEGI 7 and PEGI 3
I find the 14+ rating in Brazil really useful, some stuff is to light for 16 but too heavy for 12, like the Uncharted games
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Look,any game that’s not 18+ is okay for kids.
@@lorenzorafael4600 having your ears blown out on gta online by squeakoids will change your mind
I played the og uncharted games when I was 7
@@lorenzorafael4600 yeah right.
I love how the subtitles interpreted "m-rated game" as "inbred game"
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Fbi, this one. Right here.
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Rating Pending best rating
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PEGI is just substantially more hardcore with gambling than the ESRB is. For reference, Trails from Zero is a game you outlined as T for Teen/PEGI 18.
The ESRB Page for the game references
>Cries of pain, gunfire
>Female characters with deep cleavage, lines referencing said cleavage
>A fictional drug crucial to the game's plot, described as "the real serious kind", which is also shown to leave people unconscious
>A casino where you can use ingame currency to play blackjack, poker, and slots
>uses of the words Bullshit and Ass
The PEGI page just mentions that the game teaches and encourages playing blackjack and poker. Nothing else.
Persona 5 has gambling in it but it got a Pegi 16 and ESRB rated the game M
@@demosneokleous4877 just looked through it, according to PEGI Trails from Zero encourages gambling and actively teaches how to do it to the player while Persona 5 does not.
I feel like this has been happening more recently, because Trails of Cold Steel IV has the exact same gambling minigames and it only got a PEGI 12 rating at the time.
I found it always weird how videogame age ratings appear to be way more strict compared to movies and tv series. Many tv series with a lot of violence, blood and drugs often only get a 12+ rating in my country but videogames almost always get a 16 or 18 rating. Even racing games usually get a 12+ rating which doesn't make any sense to me. Why should a 11 year old kid not be allowed to drive a car in a videogame? You can't even be violent because there are no pedestriabs in those racing games.
My guess is in a TV show you're watching characters make choices that may be judged as bad by the universe itself, but in a game you make your own choices which may even be rewarded if evil.
You are comparing two completely different mediums
It’s just to be safe so that the companies don’t get sued by parents
PEGI is incredibly strict, any gambling is an instant 18
It's probably because videogames are an interactive media, which ended up making blood and violence something rewarding.
Whoa, I was not expecting you to cover the Brazilian Rating System. Classificação Indicativa translates to "Indicative Classification" and for games their are automatic, each of them relating to one from the ESRB
parabiens
and the "L" is for "Livre pra todas as idades" = "Free for all ages"
@@igortheprimo i think its spelled "Parabéns"
@@veronicabermudez4802it does
@@violakazooie that's Portuguese
Some thoughts of mine:
-Older T-rated games seem to be able to get away with much more than modern T-rated games, simply because the graphics were less polished. Look at Weaponlord's finishing moves for example and you'd see there is no way that would be allowed at a T-rating if the graphics were 3D.
-The game Crime Scene on the Nintendo DS seems to have the biggest disparity between ESRB and PEGI, as the former rated it M while the latter rated it 7. Worth noting that PEGI in its early days seemed to allow much worse content at the lower ratings. For example, 2005 Altered Beast getting a 12 even though you can cut enemies in half or decapitate them and there are grisly body horror images.
-The BBFC film ratings board in the UK used to rate video games prior to July 2012. They didn't rate every game, admittedly. Comparing them to the ESRB and PEGI leads to many interesting results, such as how Mass Effect 1, Dragon's Dogma and XCOM: Enemy Unknown, all rated M by ESRB and 18 by PEGI were rated 12 by the BBFC instead.
-The Australian ratings board originally didn't use the R18 rating for games, prior to late 2012 (don't remember the exact month, but Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge was the first game to get an R18). This was a factor in why so many games got banned or censored.
R18? Isn’t that for porn? It is in the UK with our BBFC. The bbfc was a lot less strict until around 2015.
In the UK, that is true, but in Australia, R18 is the regular 18 rating, while X18 is their version of the UK R18
Zapper (2002) was a game on many platforms rated PEGI 3 on Windows (but ELSPA 3+ on other platforms). One of the common death animations is the mani character being cut in half, with intestines visible.
I remember when HGSS was at risk of getting a higher age rating because of the Game Center.
Also, congrats on 50K!
But it was already cut and replaced in Platinum
Shower thoughts:
We live in a world where gta is a kids game and candy crush is an adult game
11:53 This rating is in Poland too, I think this appeared since 2010 (But it looks kinda different), or something like that, when I was a young kid I have seen videos with yellow triangle and 12 in it
The Switch version of Miitopia got an 18+ rating in Russia because it's possible for two characters of the same sex to be soulmates in the game
was hoping to see the arcade classifications here. I love the color coded stickers and how instead of numbers or letters, everything has to be written out (life-like violence strong, for example)
Games clasified as teen in usa and pegi 18 in europe are mostly games that contain money games such as casino
I think the rating system actually made games better cause most were for everyone already n it was rare to have adult games, but the rating systems let people make any type of game and make it good (:
No it doesn't, even today games have to censor a lot of stuff to lower their age rating. Take for example the awful pokemon diamond and pearl remakes: they had to cut out the casino section of the game or else PEGI would label the game as 18+, and that's outright unsellable. In reality no one pays attention to the silly numbers on the box but they end up affecting the games a ton for the worse
As a european i am kinda weirded out by the american system
One thing that's neat about PEGI is that it's actually color coded and overall a bit more accurate & useful than the ESRB (Arbitrary age numbers aside):
Green is basically Everyone
Yellow is Teen
Red is Adults
3+ is a light E rating while 7+ is a heavy one
Same goes for 12+ being a light T while 16+ is a heavy T
Useful since T games differ a lot on the ESRB. Games like Infamous, Uncharted, Mercenaries, Bully etc. push the T rating pretty hard but aren't quite M worthy. Same goes for games like Halo which only slightly edge towards M and are given the more appropriate 16+ with PEGI.
In Europe i mainly see two different types of ratings on boxarts. You got boxarts with a Pegi rating on it and boxarts with both Russia’s and Germany’s ratings on it
Haha, I can image that the E 10+ was made for Shadow the Hedgehog, that game earned it!
I live in Germany, and the funny thing with the USK and the PEGI is that sometimes, both rating are on the same game, and can be both entirely different. Like one game has an USK 16 and PEGI 18 at the same time.
I don't really understand your rating system. Like it seems in the US nothing above TV-MA is allowed on streaming yet FSK 18 is allowed on streaming
An interesting thing I have found are combined ESRB ratings. As of now, I only know for certain one released as a standalone version, Yomawari: The Long Night Collection, which is a 2-in-1 exclusive Nintendo Switch version of the first two Yomawari games (Night Alone and Midnight Shadows). However, what is interesting about this specific version is that Night Alone is rated T by the ESRB while Midnight Shadows is rated M (on-screen depictions of a character taking their own life and more gore). As such, the Collection has the T and M rating.
The ESRB rating system tried to make things easier, but instead it just caused more problems as there would still be complaints about kids playing a game not suitable for them.
Even after establishing the ESRB rating system parents would still end up buying their children a game either meant for teen or adults and then complaining about the game instead of just looking at the ESRB rating it had before purchase.
I think the main issue was the box art. Depending on the box art used some parents probably didn't notice the ESRB rating on the bottom left corner (which given how tiny it can look also doesn't help things) and thought it would be suitable for their kid(s). On top of that, not everyone checks the back of the box to see what themes the game might have so that probably didn't help anything either.
Thanks for talking about the Australian classification system! Love to see us getting mentioned 😌
honestly find it confusing
Thought you would talk about the USK and how they used to ban a lot of games back in the day. For example Goldeneye 64 had to be reissued to the USK in 2021 to be included in Ninento Switch online as the original release was banned. Today they aren't that strict anymore and after checking it again it's not banned anymore. This second check also spoilered the inclusion of GoldenEye in Nintendo Switch online as it was made public before Nintendos announcement.
My issue with rating systems is how they differ in countries. Let's take a look at NFSMW 2005, in the US, it has a T rating (for some reason). Here in Australia, a literal newborn can play it because it's rated G for general audiences. I assume PEGI is the same as well, being rated 3+
why a G rating doesn't that game have some swearing
@@timelymirror7826 it's been a while since I've played it, I think so, but it's quite mild
@@awii.neocities Yeah, Need for Speed: Most Wanted was initially rated PEGI 3+ in Europe back in 2005, but later been re-rated PEGI 12+ probably due to a near-ending cutscene where Mia had a gun near her torso.
Need for Speed: Carbon was always rated PEG 12+, even back in 2006.
Yeah I feel you cause I was 10 years old when the E10 rating came out and it felt MADE FOR ME
The UK also used to have BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) ratings for some games and had used them before PEGI were established but have since standardised to exclusively using PEGI which happened during the 7th generation so similar to your point about reprints having the K-A and E ratings some later game reprints in the UK from that time have prints with completely different age rating systems on them.
Miitopia is actually a game that’s rated E in the US but 18+ in Russia.
It's PEGI 7 round here in the UK.
Bro, I'm brazilian and never knew that we had an ER rating
I always thought it was really funny that both Super Mario 64 DS and New Super Mario Bros. were given a PEGI 12 (at least on the eShop release) because of the Luigi minigames.
6:38 I thought that stands for role-play!!!
I didn't expect to be told about the Russian system. the strangest thing related to her that I've seen is Sims 3 and Sims 4, as far as I know, have the same age rating in America/Europe, but in Russia Sims 3 is 12+, and Sims 4 is 18+ only because of same-sex relationships. Because there used to be a law according to which every game with same-sex relationships had to be marked as 18+ (now, in general, any positive or neutral content about LGBT is a crime)
Perhaps if Sims 4 had been released a couple of months / a year earlier, it would have had a different rating, because that law was adopted in 2014.
I think it is kind of wierd that in Usa a Child can't go in a gamestore and buy a mature game while in Europe (at least where I live) they can just buy whatever game they want.
Hmm, I've had to show my ID before when I've bought 18+ games. I'm in Europe as well.
God is PEGI nostalgic, i remember as a kid seeing the new cool "mature" game, and watching the trailer on youtube, and the first thing i hear is "PEGI 18". I got chills everytime i heard it.
I feel like in maybe 1-3 years so many kids will buy so much gift cards to the point where stores will introduce a policy where if a young kid buys a gift card, the employees may try convincing the parent/s to not get their kid a giftcard as they can buy a lot of games “not for their age”. In my opinion, I feel like if this were to happen it would most likely happen when gta 6 releases.
Hearing a game get rated AO for gambling is hilarious when most modern loot box systems are gambling
I have bought like 4 that are rated M at my local Game X Change and not 17 at all
fun fact, our mexican e for everyone it's classified by A para todo público (A for every audience)
8:40 another pretty strange thing about pegi and esrb is that some ps2 games that are M for mature in America are rated pegi 12 in europe, some of them are: onimusha dawn of dreams, obscure, XII and even serious sam next encounter (also XII was re rated from pegi in the platinum version of the game turning from pegi 12 to pegi 16)
You should’ve looked at streets of rogue I googled the age rating in America it’s 10 and up but for Pegi it’s 16 and up
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8:58 This one is that the game or application needs parental control, you can use it, but your parent should look do you use this properly
Germany has that same one exactly
I like how Russia just assumes the possibility of someone under the age of 1 being able to play a video game.
11:20 Chamando todos os brasileiros por aqui
Germany is interesting since you can only sell games if your have an rating. Even on Online store fronts you need an Age rating
Honestly, it makes me wonder why 17 or even 16 isn’t the age of majority. Like they’re old enough to play m-rated games but not old enough to vote, nor star in korn? That’s a double standard right there.
Bro I thought everyone used G, PG, M, MA and R ratings for everything but that must be just a regional thing
I buy gift cards pretty often as do I pick up games from retailers including online stores. Been doing both physical (usually with major releases) and digital (whenever major games go on sale or most of the time it’s with smaller/less expensive games) games for a long time. I know the rating is there but most of us Just wanted to say that.
Yeah sometimes smaller games may have physical releases overseas and releases from Limited Run but it’s whatever for me.
5:09 I think Link’s Awakening has all 3. K-A for the original Game Boy version, original E in the DX version and new E in the switch version.
DoA Extreme Beach Volleyball:
M rating in the US, but 12(T) in Europe. 👀
What if every game rating system combined in some way shape or form to make it pretty difficult to remember but make it more or less difficult for those to rate the games
with M-rated games getting PEGI ratings, I swear literally almost every M-rated anime game gets a 16 lol
for a game with all three versions of the rating I was thinking castlevania symphony of the night but I dont actually know for sure
My mom let me play Mortal Kombat and South Park tsot when i was 4 but not any GTA until i was 9.
Tbh I like the American age rating
Same, I hate the Australian rating system
I think the first time i played a video game was when i was 5 years old
I love how they just spell the word eCeetma.
12:27 seven seas manga does that too (but they used to just have 16 and 18). Now do find the Brazilin ones redundant as well with the fact that there is a 12, 14 and 16
PEGI not only has the classification, but also on the backside of every box are logos showing what is in the game. There are Bad Language, Discrimination, Drugs, Fear, Gambling, Sex, Violence and also my Favorit that should be on the front In-Game purchases
ESRB also has that, right?
@@WohaoGi don't think ESRB has icons, only text
@@nikomiller Oh yea, I'm not american so idk
Yea there’s one with a spider and I don’t understand it
Australia does that as well with warnings like online interactivity and fantasy violence, except they just straight up say it instead of showing logos
Mexico appears to have adopted its own ratings during the pandemic or around that time. It was so weird walking to the store and seeing something other than an imported esrb rating
Mexican here. I actually miss the ESRB ratings. The new ones look butt ugly and don't blend with any cover.
They're super ugly, The rating is too big, and the colored rating doesn't look good
Here in Chile we also have our own rating system, but it co-exists with ESRB and PEGI and rather than being pasted into the cover it's a removable label so it's not that annoying (and they make it cover like a quarter or third of the cover so parents actually see it LOL).
The ratings are:
-ER (Especially Recommended): Mostly for educative games because they're *especially recommended* for young kids.
-TE (All Ages): Games safe and enjoyable for any age.
-8+: May have a minor amount of "strong" language, sexual innuendoes or violence.
-14+: Moderate amount of strong language, sexual innuendoes or violence.
-18+: Important amount of vulgar language, explicit sexual material, frequent nudity or important levels of violence. Also used as a temporary disclaimer for content that is yet to be rated.
@@Kdekalcio It's probably a sticker because they're improted directly, and not actually sold there
Where as in Mexico, it's a new printed cover
@@despeinado340 are they printed on the cover the new ratings
Croc on PS1 had all three K-A/E styles. The black label release had K-A, the Fox Interactive Greatest Hits had the pixelated E, and the Ubisoft Greatest Hits had the black E.
Commenting for more attention.
didn't Mario kart 64 have all of them
They can’t decide can they?
I would've said "Lego Island", but I think the og printing didn't even have a true esrb rating.
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My problem with the rating systems are just how inconsistent they are. There are games where you cut people in half that are rated pegi 16, and games that have pretty much no gore except for a little blood that are rated 18. And there are games rated e/3+ that have lootboxes , which is pretty much just gambling. I think they should rate each category like gore, swearing, gambling etc from 1-10 to help people weed out the games that have a lot of the content that they personally are not comfortable with. The current systems are just very inconsistent and misleading.
I honeslty think pegi is pretty alright, it tells you whats in the game and thats it
@@flow185 but like I said, it's completely inconsistent. For example, Star Wars Jedi fallen order was rated 16, but Jedi survivor was rated 12, despite having pretty much the exact same content
@@Japuckleif anything Jedi survivor is worse than fallen order in that area
Like WWE Is Pegi 16 Wtf
Content descriptors is already a thing
I think PEGI has a good system and I like how they have logos for what is included (drugs, violence etc.) but I do think a numbering system could make it more clear. A logo with a small number from 1-10 would make it easier to know if a game is fine for your kids even if it has "bad" things in it.
Thats like Australia. if a game is let say M rated, then it will tell you why its M rated. Exmaple Zelda: Breath of the Wild is M rated in Australia and the rating tell you its because it has fantasy violence
@@DAVID-ANDERSONit's literally the same for European games, in the back of game boxes, it'll show content descriptors in boxes. Content descriptors here have never changed, apart from an online one that was removed in 2015.
I used to have a friend who’s parents ACTUALLY PAYED ATTENTION TO AGE RATINGS so he couldn’t play teen games until he was 13
@@Whiteman2.0 imagine you're 11 and wanna play TOTK in europe and then your parents are just like: "nahhh"
@@CrunchySpon haha. It was exactly like that
8:40 a funny rating gap for me has always been A Hat in Time.
In North America, the game is rated T for violence and blood while in Europe it has a 7 rating.
Where was there even blood? Haven't played that game in at least a year
there are a lot of games with weird age differences in countries (e.g. Persona 3 being rated pegi 12 and cero b while also being rated m for mature in america - at least on the portable version)
Us Americans take stuff seriously
@@W0NDERFULSTUFF In the case of Persona it's because of a cultural difference; a cock and balls monster (Mara) is deemed much more graphic in the US than in Europe or Japan.
@@Zippy_Zoltonmaybe owl express? haven't played in a year or two
Wasn't expecting you to talk about the Brazilian rating system, pretty nice surprise! I don't think I ever saw a videogame with one of those, most of them just use the ESRB, since they are usually imported (from the US), specially if you're talking Nintendo.
Actually nowadays a lot of games have the Brazilian rating, even Nintendo games since they started to distribute their games officially here, sadly without a translation tho.
Nintendo's oficial games realeased in Brazil comes with the classInd! I got a copy of TOTK with the 10 classification in the cover and It's pretty neat ^^
Its worth noting that some countries like Russia rate some games drastically differently due to their more strict and oppressive LGBTQ+ laws. E.g. Miitopia is rated 18+ in Russia, but PEGI 7 here in the UK, presumably due to the high-level relationships Miis can obtain with each other suggesting romance
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I can’t believe he didn’t mention when Miitopia got an 18+ rating in Russia because of same-sex relationships
I could probably make another video just talking about how strangely some games were rated in different territories.
What
Huh, at least it didn't get outright banned
Yeah i heard about that, it's fucking stupid
The sims 4 is 18+ in Russia as well. They almost didn’t sell a wedding game pack in Russia because of its trailer featuring a straight couple getting married, but the bride ended up marrying her best friend (who even helped them plan the wedding) instead
The USK here in Germany is trigger happy with banning games but they’re relaxed with giving explicit games a low rating. For example: Persona 4, which is rated M in the USA, is only 12+ in Germany.
Yeah Persona 4 isn't a game I'd recommend for 12 year olds considering... a couple dungeons being a bit explicit to the point of having one of THOSE clubs. I still love it to pieces but I don't wanna think what Kanji and Rise's dungeons would do to a 12 year old
That's... interesting, considering Shadow Rise.
@@SliminBlueI did play P4 and 5 as a 12 year old, honestly it coulda been worse. I can’t say they included content I wasn’t already aware of, a 12 year old can definitely handle both games’ themes, just maybe not fully understand them. I got a lot more depth from replaying them more recently
As much as I loved P4 Golden, I still find Rise's and Kanj's dungeon design to be one of those thing to be quite questionable, considering they are both 15 and are high schoolers. Not something I'd be comfortable playing in front of my parents if I got the original PS2 version instead of the now released steam port. This is random, but characters like Kanji and Junpei to me, look much older than they are, I used to think they got held back or something.
Yeah, which is also the same rating as many “dark” Lego game IPs were released under.
Another notable thing about the Australian rating system is that for a long time, they refused to classify any games as R18+, because I guess games are for kids and so can't be for adults? This led to some games being refused sale on absolutely oversensitive grounds, but also frankly led to a lot of games being under-rated as MA15+ because banning them would have gotten bad press, like GTA IV.
My copy of Borderlands 3 on PS4 has Pegi 18 on the box but on the disc it has the Australian MA15+ rating
Miitopias rating is super interesting. In America it got E for everyone the lowest rating available. In Russia it got an 18+ rating. It got 18+ because the game features same sex couples and Nintendo refused to censor the feature. Good on Nintendo for staying true to their values.
While it's really bad for Russia having such rule, since children can also be LGBT. But it's still good that Russia still allows it from 18 at least. Like, they could have outright banned it, but they made a compromise at 18.
Still shouldn't be a thing though.
@@Liggliluff how does a kid become lgbt? what did you guys do to them?
@@CountlessPWNZa little girl can like another little girl and a little boy can like another boy without the influence of the LGBT it’s human nature to want connections whether romantic or platonic.
I got curious and went to look my PS2 games for the ratings and died after seeing GTA: San Andreas with the pixelated E for everyone on the CD XDD
I have the cartridge for the pixel e for everyone rating for Donkey Kong Land 2. So I can confirm it's real.
The Pokemon Red and Blue rerelease got a PEGI 18+ for a time because of the gambling corner while it got an E for Everyone in the US
Oh yeah I remember hearing about that, that was weird
That's literally not true. The new legislation did not apply to legacy titles as long as the content remained unchanged on rereleases. Their rating got increased to PEGI-12 back when they released on 3DS, but that's about it.
I didn't think it would apply if it wasn't real money because a lot of games have some sort of mini game that can be interpreted as gambling.
i have firered and leafgreen while it was still 18 becuase my dad got it
Prior to PEGI the UK went 3, 7, 12, 15 and 18. We still use TBC (To be Confirmed) when games are listed on the market while in development.
Yeah, we used the ELSPA rating system before PEGI in the UK.
i remember when just cause 2 was pegi 15 but then swiftly changed it to pegi 18
And also occasionally the BBFC used to rate video games as well up until 2012.
Brazilian here. The "Classificação Indicativa" is the same that is used for TV shows. They started using it on games around 2013. Games would often come with a sticker or a cardboard box with the brazilian rating on top of the original box, as up until that point we used the ERSB rating from USA.
I'm not sure how it was before the ERAB here, because the Classificação Indicativa in TV shows wasn't a thing before mid 2000's. At least this incarnation of the rating. Only recently with some major PS4, PS5 and Xbox games games are printed with our rating on their original boxes. Switch retail games aren't officially sold here, instead Nintendo sells gift cards with the download codes.
Not sure if any game has been banned here. I remember there has been talks about banning GTA Vice City when it came out, the whole videogame are evil witch hunt. But you can still buy GTA games in all other platforms. Also, one big box dept store near my house had an original copy of the PS2 version of Manhunt 1 for years.
Antes do ClassInd, a Tectoy tinha a classificação própria deles, por exemplo, e a Gradiente (Nintendo) usava uma versão traduzida da ESRB.
cs 1.6 was banned in brazil in 2008 or 2009
Bully was originally banned from Brazil in 2000's.
Parents should be aware of Parental Controls in online storefronts. We all know that video of Bowser being a responsible parent, but I'm pretty sure as early as the Wii, Nintendo had a Parental Control feature to require a password when buying games above a certain ESRB rating. So the gift card loophole shouldn't be a huge worry if you're parenting properly
According to PEGI every game is innapropiate for a 2 year old. :|
Same with the ESRB (when EC was a thing)
You went into a lot of detail into ESRB, while glossed over interesting things about PEGI. One thing about PEGI, unlike every other system you listed, is that it's language-independent. ESRB is English, CERO is Japanese, USK is German, but PEGI has no language. This is why all rating are numbers only, because numbers are universal, and why that special rating is just ! because it's not any language. The content ratings, which you didn't even show, are also just symbols. These are just symbols because they aren't language. You can read up about these symbols in your own language, and then you can know what these means regardless of what language the box is in. You can therefore purchase games in Spain and still understand the PEGI system.
I just want to imagine a game, with the cover translated to English, German and Dutch to be like. Instead of 18 it would be A for Adults, E for Erwachsene, V for Volwassen. Then trying to buy a game in Poland having it rated N for Nastoletni and having no idea what age that is.
One of the most interesting age ratings for a game I recall is Pokémon Red and Blue. The original Gameboy games had the ESRB rate them as E and PEGI rate them as 3. When they where rereleased on the 3DS Virtual Console though PEGI increased it to 12 due to it having the Celadon Game Corner. It’s the main reason most future games no longer have a Game Corner, even the Ruby and Sapphire remakes got rid of it
There's a legit chance it would be 18 rated now.
The last few years PEGI introduced a rule that any casino style gambling is a automatic 18 which might include the slot machines in Pokemon.
Thats why Trails from Zero is PEGI 18 and ESRB T rated, it has poker in it.
HeartGold / SoulSilver also got rid of the game corned, and only in the Western versions, so I suspect this was a last minute change, especially given how sloppy their removal was. It also sucks because all the TM's available in the Game Corner in the JP version are much, much harder to get in the Western versions.
@@K1ttenface its not even gambling if its a game of skill (pressing buttons at right time)
on the ds ones
@@noroultraBy your logic, poker isn't gambling because it requires skill.
In Ireland, for years when I found a game in a store, it was a coin flip whether it was the PEGI age rating or the British age rating, the BBFC. I got away with playing call of duty World at war when I was younger because the box had the UK rating of 15+, but I only discovered recently that the PEGI rating was 18+ for the same game and I wasn't allowed play those games at the time.
Just thought I'd share how it seemed for ages that we could have a game that could have 2 different age ratings on a shelf next to each other.
I live in the UK, and most of my games have a PEGI rating. The only BBFC ratings I have are for games such as Your Shape, and Samba De Amigo I believe, which I assume contains primarily video content which made the BBFC rate it instead?
On Nintendo games since the GameCube (technically GBA but it's placed differently on those games) btw, if a game is intended for a UK audience, on the side where you usually just see the consoles logo and the games name, you may be able to see a green triangle which indicates that the box art is intended for the UK (purplish triangles are intended for the EU)
@ExperiencersInternational that's interesting, I thought it was random cause most my games do have pegi ratings but world at war, dead rising and some of the nba games have the bbfc ratings. I must check and see if they have those triangles you're talking about
r.i.p 15 rating
@@noroultra truly rip
@@Skyblue-bq6ev aw right, that would make sense since I haven't seen any newer games with the BBFC rating. Jeez mass effect at 12, that's wild
Here in Brazil we use the same parental rating system (Sistema de Classificação Indicativa) on everything, from games to movies, TV series, TV shows and even streaming services content. The only exceptions are books, comics and manga
To be fair, there isn't a widely used rating system for books.
@@el-karasu6070 some comics and manga have self-imposed ratings in the US!
Its kinda funny that Night trap and mortal kombat were the games that made people think its a problem, while back in the 80s there was Chiller and Splatterhouse which I would say is way more violent and gory, though the age rating on games was not a thing back then. I love that on splatterhouse there is a text on the turbografx16 cover that says ''The horrifying theme of this game may be inappropriate for young children...and cowards.''
Also many movies and games had differences which country it was in. Like I own movies which has both 18+ and 15+ on the age rating depending which country you are in. Probably because the neighboring country has a higher age rating compared to the one you're in, but its funny seeing mutiple age ratings on the same disc.
Seeing how the countries takes ''recommened age rating'' differently. Shadow the hedgehog is 10+ in usa and 12+ in europe. Also Ratchet and Clank is 3+ in europe while in USA its teen.
Oh my God! You just unlocked my memory. I played spaltterhouse a lot when I was a kid.
I don't really think it was that violent compared to DOOM. It just had a few bosses that looked ugly.
But you are definitely right about Chiller. That thing was straight up sadistic
I have a fond memory of needing to get my dad to call Nintendo customer service because the 5th ace attourney game was rated M among the rest of the series at T, and my 3ds account age was too young to buy it
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@@timelymirror7826 It's true. I think it was because there was lots of blood (or perhaps too much blood in a traumatic scene) that caused the rating to rise.
🇧🇷 As a Brazillian, i was not expecting our rating system appear here, i'm happy about this 🇧🇷
As a dutch person (netherlands is in europe) I remember being young and when seeing a Pegi 18 Rating me and other kids would be very excited about that game, because if it got that rating we would really want to play it. lol
So PEGI 18 was basically the opposite of a death sentence, it was a mark of approval
Yeah I really disagree with the AO ban
Assuming it’s not something like CP I don’t see why they should ban it
Ducking hell San Andreas got it because of a hack that was as erotic as an action fugue pike up
I don't know how many Americans are here but I hope that everybody knows where the Netherlands is.
@@mildlydispleased3221 you’re lucky if they don’t call it Holland
Its in benelux region next to germany and Belgium @@mildlydispleased3221
@@mildlydispleased3221 I could, but fail to see the purpose or relevance of that comment. You're just trying to drum up an animosity circlejerk. Let's be realistic; if I asked the average European to point out Arkansas or Minnesota on a map, I doubt they could.
Personally wouldn’t say Pegi 18 is the same as the esrb’s Adult only, I’d say it’s more like the M rating
From my experience it feels as if Pegi 16 is used more as a middle ground for games that don’t quite fit either 12 or 18 ( for example bayonetta 1 is 18 while 2 is 16)
This does lead to things such as the entire halo series being 16 besides halo wars 2
Even with all the more graphic things in the 1st 3 games it’s rated the same as the relatively tame things in 5 and infinite.
On a related note some games in the UK got rated by the BBFC (the British Board of film classification) leading to games like halo 3 getting a 15 rating but funnily enough Mass effect 1 getting a 12 rating
ESRB to PEGI I would argue is: E to 3, E10+ to 7, T to 12, and M split into 16 and 18. Ao is also 18 of course.
It's crazy how 17 year olds aren't ready to play some games that 18 year olds can 😂
What's even funnier is the highest rating for TV is 17+ in the US
I'm surprised you didn't mention the AV15+ classification for Australia. It was used specifically for violent content (adult violence) and I remember my first time ever seeing it on TV. I have no idea what movie it was and it was the only time I ever saw it. The AV15+ classification was merged with the MA15+ rating in 2015 and the 'strong violence' sub-text was put in place of it.
for some reason when I got paper mario the origami king for my birthday, I got the PEGI rating system instead of the esrb system, this copy sort of felt special to me for some reason
I remember in Chile during late 2010's they made a weird experiment, using (horrid but fortunately easy to throw away) paper labels saying TE (All audiences), +8, +14 and +18 and a generic description of the rating, the same ratings used in film. And Mexico started using their own ratings print on the label saying A, B, C and D replying their own film ratings (and their icons look so... "graphic design is my passion")
In 2022 Chile said "Screw it, we're gonna stick with ESRB", thank God
Perhaps a weird take, but I sorta like the ESRB system? They're pretty context-based when it comes to reviewing, so for example a game with a kid-friendly artstyle and a non-explicit plot isn't going to get a T only because say, a character says "suicide" once (yeah I'm thinking of Professor Layton). Their little sticker is also as non-intrusive as possible, so you don't get the entire cover art ruined like the USK in Germany.
And IMO it's telling that people's biggest beef with them is still something that happened around 15 years ago (the Elder Scrolls IV rating change, which yeah it was totally on them). There IS the more recent lootbox controversy, but they're only one piece of the problem and most responsibility should actually be taken by legislators IMO.
I agree, it's pretty easy to understand and I like that there's basically only 3 ratings, which is all you really need. The rest feel pretty redundant.
Also the ESRB and CERO ratings are the only ones I don't mind on the box art. They're pretty sleek and nonintruvise. All the colored ones look a little tacky to me. Germany is by far the worst though.
@@Skyblue-bq6ev I think 18 gets into a legal threshold that goes against the idea of the ratings being more of a "suggestion". 18+ is also doomed to be associated with porn so it'd be weird to group most M-rated games in the same category as those.
*a game with a Kid-friendly artstyle and non-explicit plot isn't going to get a T*
Tom & Jerry War of the Whiskers: You're Kidding Me?
When I was repalying Mega Man X4 for my review marathing for it, I found it funny that it was KA rated when you have to remember: that's the MOST DARKEST game in the entire franchise. I alos like how they changed that specific rating with E and E10 which we know today.
I remember my dad buying me The Sims: Superstar when I was a child. Online now it has the game is 7+ but I definitely remember it being 12+ rated. The person behind the counter at PC World asked me to step to the side in order to explain the content in the game to my dad (I was definitely too young to know what "WooHoo" was alluding to).
me, a European, has seen a couple of pegi 17 ratings.
17, the most popular rating in the US.
Fun fact about Brazil's rating:
I don't know if still is like this, but there was a time that sexual non-explicit short scenes would be for 14, sexual non-explicit long scenes would be for 16, and all the explicit and pornographic scenes would be for 18. However, if the sexual scene was a homossexual one, it didn't matter how long and explicit it was, it would jump straight to 18. I think it also applied to gay kisses with no sexual tension at all, but I'm not sure.
oof
one weird instance of different rating systems giving a game a wildly different rating is with the game, Deponia: The Complete Journey. It is rated 6 by the USK, 12 by PEGI, and Mature by the ESRB.
Likely cultural differences but i don't know
I'm not surprised about Germany rating games this low considering most of our kids cartoons have explicit swearing. I've gotten so used to watching shows and movies in english that once I sat down to watch the german dub of Puss in Boots I was caught off guard by how often the characters said "ass" and "shit" completely uncensored
You forgot to mention prior to PEGI. We actually used the ELSPA rating in EU countries (mainly UK) which was basically used from the SNES to PS1 era of games which rated from 3+, 11+, 15+ to 18+. Especially if you collected PAL releases of games back then.
Heck, at one point in the UK specifically, they used BBFC rating for some games before the creation of PEGI. If you checked from PAL games prior to 2003. You would see that rating would be present on those releases. So, I think PEGI was basically created to mainstream version those rating systems.
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 had the BBFC "18" when it was released in the United Kingdom and the first BBFC classified game was "Dracula" rated "15" for the C64 back in 1986.
It feels so weird having games with the Film rating.
Makes sense though.
@@rhodrage Welcome to the world of 80s to early 2000s UK gaming. We had a lot of issues with ratings. But we got there in the end. Seriously, if you had a PAL console, you went from BBFC to ELSPA to BFFC again for some reason and then PEGI in 2003. It's pretty crazy lol. The USA had it easy.
@@Retrofuge Being British myself, I'm fully aware.
Yeah like if you had a PS2/Xbox game collection in the UK (hell even Europe) half of the spines had BBFC ratings and half do not.
Oh, here’s a bonus fact about the Australian ratings… they didn’t used to be exactly the same. The PG rating was only implemented around 2004. Prior to that, Australia used to have G8+, which served the same function. But now they’ve been standardised to match the film ratings
but isn't there also a P and C for Australian TV used for children's programing?
@@cradica can’t say I’m familiar with that one… not saying there isn’t, because they have got ratings that are slightly different
@@Alpha-oo8 well that's what Wikipedia says.In the US there are similar ratings being TV-Y and Y7.
Do you know anything about the German ratings? Because in Germany interspecies reviewers was rated a mix of 16 and 18 meanwhile in the US it was released by a porn company and yet banned in Australia when you guys do have porn rating. However in both the US and Australia it was rated MA (but OUR MA is 17+)
@@cradicayou found a url typo
@@matthewkrenzler1171 I know!
Crazy to imagine that a certain early 90s violent video games, got them to bring up the rating systems on every game they release. Adults Only is still one of the most rare rating system in video games.
LGBTQ content for games
Pegi 3
ESRB E
CERO A
Australia G
USK 0
Russia 18
You forgot to mention that around the era of the PS2/DS we used to have the PEGI plus rating (3+, 7+, 12+, 16+ and 18+) but we no longer used them and i don't remember why we used them
Just different style. I, actually, prefer the old style because it looked more serious and resembled ESRB rating.
@@ArtemyMalchuk yeah to be fair i kinda miss the PEGI Plus rating