You forgot to mention two thing: You can dettach the keyboard from the combo touch, turn it around and attach it again, so it folds back with the keys being on the inside. This way you don't have to worry about where you left the keyboard after using it. Number 2: the combo touch is finger print free!
@@scottmckenna I have just bought an iPad Air (5th gen) and Logitech Combo Touch for it. I can confirm that it can be attached backwards and folded back with the keys on the inside. Thanks to your review!
having owned the magic keyboard for my iPad air for nearly a year now, I love the design and so many people have asked how its floating and literally looks like magic. Also, the keyboard feels like a macbook in my opinion, probably uses the same structure idk. But as you mentioned in the video, having no function row is really annoying when using it like a laptop, and the limited adjustment is also annoying as sometimes, i like to have it extended a little further but you simply cannot. And the biggest annoyance is when you take the ipad off the case, there is no case for you to protect the device or even use as a kickstand. So for that reason, as a student, anyone looking for a keyboard for their ipad, i would personally recommend the logitech combo as it has a detachable design where the case still stays on the ipad and has more screen adjustment as well as a function row. But, for typing on your lap which I do a lot, as the magic keyboard has a flat bottom, it's easier to rest on your lap like an actual laptop instead of the logitech which is designed like a surface device. But whichever you pick, I'm sure will suit your needs.
I had a 10th gen iPad ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxhcEDB3r-OJ3_X5hQzr7k1ZofTQy1ao_U . Felt it getting pretty slow at times even after doing a reset. So I am using that as a tablet for my 5 year old son and got this 9th gen version. MUCH faster, a little slimmer, smaller bezels, all around a leap forward. Plus, for the price that’s about $130-$150 cheaper than a current new model this is a nice deal. I look forward to the M-series CPUs coming into iPads which will really help future proof these tablets better but these latest CPUs are pretty strong and should do better to last several years with no compromises.
A few things not mentioned: 1. Magic keyboard raises the screen higher towards your eyes and closer to your fingers. So it's more ergonomic for both viewing and touch. 2. The Magic Keyboard is more "lapable". It doesn't have a kickstand to dig into your legs. 3. Both designs have minimal screen wobble upon touch, but the Logitech is a little better in this category.
Then again, I wouldnt deem it more lapable because at the end of the day, it'll always be top heavy, and the Logitech keyboard has the kickstand for that extra support.
I don’t have any issues with this at all. It stays perfectly without any wobble. Even if there were a little bit it still looks 100 times better than any other option out there.
@@mannyislikethat when i first got my ipad pro for school i got the combo touch, as on paper it seemed like the most ideal option, however it only took 3 months of daily use before the trackpad broke (lots of glitching and not tracking movement properly). While my gripe is not build quality (its likely i just had a defective unit as this isnt a widespread issue it seems) when i went to return it at the apple store, instad of exchanging i got the magic keyboard. And have been using it for the last year and a month. In terms of lapability the logitech is near impossible for actual use, with the edge of the kickstand often going over the knees and you having to adjust how you sit just so it balances. The function keys while nice, havent been something ive missed once i got accustomed to using the command centre with the quick actions, and in terms of daily driving, its hard to see any other option than the magic keyboard here. i find that these tech reviewers can sometimes blow things way out of proportion, prehaps due to skewed perspective from being surrounded by newer and newer tech constantly. But screen wobble isn’t something i notice, and the function row issue is a little overblown. lastly, the one advantage the logitech has is leaning it all the way back for apple pencil use, however in practice the kickstand is too flimsy to allow for a reliable work surface. Of course the magic keyboard has no real solution (i imagine apples marketing spiel was that you’d have both the keyboard and the magic folio case, and you’d hotswap between them) But i did find this little trick where you can nestle the ipad in the groove at the bottom of the keyboard, and tilt it back, providing a lower and stable surface (though this is nothing but a little hack, not a real fix)
@@SuperSocks7 wait, can you please explain your last paragraph? Do you mean resting it on the Magic Keyboard when it’s closed? Sorry, I didn’t really get what you were saying but really trying to find a solution for the same issue.
I have used/owned both keyboard cases. For me, I like the Logitech a little better but, honestly, you can’t go wrong with regard to quality. I agree with you that I wouldn’t recommend any other keyboard case beyond these two at this point.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
i originally bought the ipad for art, so i bought it with apples smart folio, which was amazing. and then i bought the magic keyboard for school, and i can easily switch between the 2 cases when its needed. if i need to work on an assignment, ill pop it on the keyboard, and if i want to sketch, i simply take it off, and put it on the smart folio. so, yeah
I just got the 12.9 inch m1 iPad Pro last month after using the 11 inch 2018 model iPad Pro for the last two years. Got the magic keyboard for both and its been incredible in both sizes. All the keyboard shortcuts and having zero lag on the trackpad/keyboard has been great. I use my ipad as a laptop most of the time, almost to the point where I forget that I can remove it from the keyboard. Its pretty clear they were built to go together from how well they work with each other.
I have both cases. Each is a good product and you can find the Logitech discounted to $150. Aside from price, however, go for Apple’s keyboard. When open it sits at a perfect angle for typing. Removal for note taking with the Apple Pencil is a dream. Unless you want to constantly pop the iPad inland out of the Logitech frame, you are carrying an extra heavy device for note taking. The Magic keyboard also sits the iPad firmly in your lap for typing. It is just a great design.
Logitech seems more compatible with why someone would buy an iPad in the first place - the flexible workflow. Personally a folio case plus k380 keyboard has been 👌🏻
I’ve been thru 4 different Logitech keyboard cases for iPads over the years. They always fail, the keys stop working, they are junk. I just bought the Apple keyboard and the keys are a much higher quality
The extra keys, the detachability, different angles, the slot for the pen, better protection and the price drove me to the Logitech one over apples. If Logitech just had a passthrough charging port it would be more or less perfect.
Thank you for such a thorough review & especially for the Stylus Sling to hold the pencil. Definitely like the Logitech Combo Touch over the Apple Magic Keyboard. I disliked that iPad kept falling off the Magic Keyboard, in addition to not having a protective case around that fits around the iPad. Even with being careful, Ipad like anything can fall. For those reasons I have returned the Magic Keyboard. Logitech Combo Touch provides better protection, the kick stand even provides for a nice secured hold with my fingers in multiple areas when I remove the iPad from the detachable keyboard. Go Logitech!!
Just bought the Logitech Combo Touch for the main reason you mentioned - detachability. I use my iPad in sidecar a LOT, watch movies on it, etc, so the detachability is a huge value add for me. This video also showed me that the Combo Touch was more adjustable than I initially realized (I thought the kickstand distance was pretty static, apparently it's not). This makes the case even more valuable for me.
Glad the video was helpful. I ended up using the Magic Keyboard more for everyday use but that’s because I use the iPad more as a computer then tablet.
I have both of these cases, and I have to say that both are very good cases. But the choice will go down to use case. If you are someone who will type a lot on your iPad, the Magic Keyboard is the way to go. The angle is great for typing and I personally find that it is not as fatiguing to type on it as compared to the Combo Touch (perhaps due to the CT’s 70gf operating force vs the MK’s 60gf). But if you are someone who will use the iPad more as a tablet (in my case, as a writing tablet with the Apple Pencil), the CT is better because you can keep it in the case and use it as a tablet.
Great review. I purchased the Logitech Combo when it first came out and have not been disappointed. I was weighing up between Logitech and the Apple keyboard, but really you cannot compare them both. The Logitech is so multi functional. During the work day i can have it sit in front of me without the keyboard and use Universal Control with my Mac’s magic keyboard and trackpad. After work i can use it on the couch for personal emails and browsing etc. Use it without the keyboard for cooking or later watching content. All the while, protected with a nice case. I do agree if you only use your iPad Pro on a desk, maybe Apple’s keyboard is best. If you want something to take with you wherever you go, the Logitech Combo case is the outright winner.
After this review, I actually decided to go back to the Magic Keyboard primarily because of the keyboard and usage. I find the Logitech very uncomfortable on my lap or even desk in comparison to the true keyboard experience on the magic keyboard. I thin the Logitech is more versatile for sure, but for me, it's more about using it like a computer since that's how I use my iPad most often and the magic keyboard is quicker and more efficient to me.
@@scottmckenna Loved your review and was just about to buy the Logitech-grateful I saw this. I guess it takes some time to know how a product will work IRL. Now I’ll look for more recent reviews by you 😊
Hi sir im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I’ve had my Magic keyboard now for 2 years and I absolutely love it. I love the feel of the keys, and it fits nicely on my lap, a pillow or laying in bed. I don’t use function keys, so that’s never been a problem - I just swipe down to access the controls I need. I do a fair amount of writing with the case also. At those times I either flip the case around, or snatch it off and write on the closed case. Either way works, and I haven’t felt it was an issue. Lastly, the viewing angle has never been a problem. I tried the Logitech and it just takes up way too much space on my desk, and can’t be used in tight spaces.
What exactly do you mean by flipping the case around? I'm considering buying a Magic keyboard for college classes, and I enjoy writing my notes directly into goodnotes with my apple pencil. I thought the magic keyboard did not let you flip the display around so that the ipad can lay on top of the keyboard, but if that's possible I would definitely like to invest in it. It seems like the best option over the logitech case for someone who will be using it on the horribly undersized desks in auditorium lecture rooms, since the base support is the keyboard itself.
I might be crazy, but what I like most about the Magic Keyboard is that it takes up less space. A good example is if you fly a lot the Magic Keyboard sits perfectly on the tray. A lot of times I feel like the tray is too small for the Logi all spread out. Definitely an edge case for most. But I think Apple made it this way so that it literally could sit anywhere with no kickstand. I look weird but I just keep the folio cover in my back for if I want to read a paper or not user the Magic Keyboard.
If you detached the keyboard from the Logitech case, it too can take up less space. I can't imagine needing a keyboard whilst propped up on an airplane seat tray, but if that's a very common use case for you, then it would make sense why you'd prefer the Magic Keyboard.
I’m an Apple guy but after much research got the combo touch. I was concerned with the trackpad but it works great! It’s much more versatile than the magic.
and is like half the price! I have the combo touch too and think it's great. i can't justify buying the Magic Keyboard when it doesn't have the row of function keys. i've seen excuses from apple stans that said there isn't enough room but i call bullshit on that - Logitech figured it out.
@@vintor6563 Absolutely. It works great in "laptop mode" and it isn't cumbersome at all if you want to (easily) remove the keyboard and use it in tablet mode. Also, it doubles as a protector for the iPad when you have it in tablet mode. Honestly, I can't think of any complaints. I know this sounds like the review of someone being paid by Logitech but it really is a great product and I can't think of anything wrong with it. It even has little quality of life things that are really nice like a slightly recessed area for your charging Apple pencil so it doesn't get knocked off as easily as it would with the Magic Keyboard. It looks like Apple realized that the missing function key row was a problem and they added it to their new Magic Keyboard BUT it's only compatible with the new iPads! Apple really needs to fix the iPad line and make a little more uniformity rather than it being their most fractured product line.
My Logitech Combo Touch (for 12.9" iPad Pro) only last 3 month (bought in Nov 2021). I applied the RMA, but there's no stock to replace the broken one since March. What a worldwide company.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
The Logitech Folio has a flap for the pen and it's viewing angles are awesome. I use it for my iPad Air 4 and the fact that I saved 130 odd dollars (compared to Magic Keyboard) was the cherry on top!
I’ve owned both, and the big thing to me is the ability to use the keyboard when you’re on a plane. Kickstands just don’t work on the tray table, you’ll just keep pushing the iPad off the back or flexing the keyboard. I plan to give that Stylus Sling thing a try though!
I purchased third party keyboard (designed like logitech) but the angle of the ipad and keyboard was awkward for me so after a month i decided to purchase apple magic keyboard and i’m Loving Loving it! The raised feature for the screen makes a whole lot of difference. The downside is as he said, there’s is no stand/protection for the ipad once you use take it out.
Hi Scott, I’m totality In love with the logi, I have had it for long time now. Another thing I really love with it is, that you actually can put the keyboard on the back and still have it with you and you don’t typing on it when you turn it. But if I am doing that, the iPad can’t stand by it self. Hopefully logi will make that possible one day. The thing I don’t like and it is the only thing, it is pretty heavy, but I can live with it
There’s a version of the Logitech case without the detachable keyboard and also the pen has its place better designed, and the carry mode is really sturdy. Check all the other versions out before you make a decision.
After a year of using the Logitech, I’m still a fan, aside from the weight. I’ve had two Apple keyboards (not the Magic), and the material of the cover is both a fingerprint magnet and begins to wrinkle and flake after a few months. The Logitech has a cloth surface that suffers from neither issue. Also the Logitech features full side coverage and protects the Apple Pencil on the top where it stays charged - that’s a big deal for me. And the keyboard folds back so I don’t need to remove the iPad from the case to hold it in my hand. And, oh yeah. The Logitech is roughly half the price.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I recently bought the magic keyboard & iPad Pro 11 for PT course readings, Zoom & essays during downtime at work. After a couple days of justifying paying more than my MacBook Air, I exchanged for a Logitech folio on sale & an iPad Air 64GB (use cloud storage) over the iPad 10.2. Didn’t feel right paying $1400 + tax CAD 😄🤔
The best part for me about the Magic Keyboard is the design of incorporating the pass though USB C on the opposite side of the IPAD USB C input, so you don’t have to snake the cable across you or saving that extra cable length.
i bought an Ipad pro one year ago and ordered the Logitech combo for the price and reasons you’ve mentioned . I use it since then but there’s one thing annoying me a lot is that the space bar key miss almost one on two times…. I review my messages before launching and got to add the spaces on 3-4-5 words each time…So i just ordered the magic keyboard. Hope i’ll like it.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
The points you touched on about the two cases are similar to why I chose the Logitech over the Magic Keyboard. Also, Logitech keyboard cases tend to go on sale more at BBY than Apple so you have more opportunities to getting a better deal on the Logitech. I also feel like with the Logitech over the Magic Keyboard your getting both a case and keyboard, where with the Magic Keyboard your getting just a keyboard because once you detach the iPad from the Keyboard you are left with just the keyboard. I also like about the Logitech is the function row. I like the fact that I can control the volume and media features from the keyboard rather than always having to access them from the control center. Also the keys on the Logitech feel roomier than what you get on the Magic Keyboard and also the trackpad is bigger on the Logitech and just as accurate. The one thing I will give to the Magic Keyboard is the experience. I do get more of a satisfying experience than what I get from the Logitech, I can’t explain beyond that, but its what anyone feels from using an Apple product compared to a third party.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I bought the logitech keyboard because it’s a full case that protects the sides. And if i detach the keyboard the ipad still has a case. The Magic Keyboard if detached, has a naked ipad
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I work in IT, as well as manage everything having to do with ‘mobile’, at the company I’m with. For a while now, I’ve been purchasing the Logitech Combo Touch, as well as the Folio Touch (when I’m trying to save a bit of money), for any users that are requesting keyboards for their iPads. The Logitech Folio Touch is almost identical to the Combo Touch, excepting the keyboard is permanently attached. I’be been really happy with them so far, and received very little complaints. About the only minus I’ve run into, is that they can be a bit harder to clean (because of the material/texture that they are made from). Also, I recently upgraded to an iPad Pro 12.9 for myself, and picked up another Combo Touch for it as well… Still happy as can be. I’m watching this video now, just because I started to worry that I was wrong to ignore the Apple Magic Keyboard, but this video covers all the points on why that would be a poor choice. That said, I was looking at the Magic keyboard ‘case’ because I find the weight of the Combo Touch (with keyboard removed) to still be a bit on the almost too heavy side… But, again, this video reminded me on all the things I would lose for that single gain. The Combo Touch really is a great keyboard/touchpad/case. Going to look into the band for the pencil… the pencil falls off the magnet too easily, plus gets in the way of opening too much (I also find opening the Combo Touch can require ‘paying attention’ as you do it.
Awesome review! I have the Apple Magic Keyboard on my 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 and love it. I'm getting the new 2022 iPad Pro 12.9 (giving the 2020 to my daughter) and looking at both keyboard options you've reviewed. One complaint for both of these keyboards would be the added weight. I would think the Logitech adds even more but with better protection as it's a full case. It's a trade-off. I think you've convinced me to go with the Logitech as I really like the idea of kickstand without the keyboard. I don't travel enough to be concerned about the added weight. Thanks and nice job!
Great review Scott! I just want to share my experience with the Logitech Combo Touch which I think you missed discussing in this video. For those who are eyeing to buy the Logitech Combo Touch please bear in mind that the speaker side rubbers flare out after quite some time, I not only experienced this myself but saw another guy at the mall working on his iPad with the same issue. I had to report it to Logitech and they acknowledge it as an aesthetic issue/defect and informed the store to give me either a replacement unit or store credit (which I traded in for the Magic Keyboard) I owned a black magic keyboard before but then I sold the iPad (pre-IOS 16 news). + opening the Logitech Combo Touch from its closed form is indeed a task every time you do it. :)
I truly appreciate when videos are factual and straightforward. You literally just saved me from opting for the Magic Keyboard and making THAT mistake. Many many thanks!
I got the Logitech Combo, I LOVE IT. The case feels solid and protects my iPad perfectly. Still pretty light weight and the 3 ways to use it is so versatile. again I LOVE IT and im all about money saving!
Great, thorough review. Appreciated. I’m with you. The Logitech feature that allows SEPARATION from the keypad, WITH the cover on the actual iPad is worth the price of admission. Plus $$$. I paid less for the Logitech model.
What i like about the charge through feature on the apple ipad magic keyboard is that it then frees up the USB-C port on the iPad for Harddrives or other connections whilst still being charged.
Yes that’s a nice feature for sure. I personally don’t use a lot of external connections and hard drives on my iPad but that’s definitely a valid and strong point for some people.
With the Logitech, no need to ditch the keyboard when using it with sidecar, just flip the keyboard to the back. Also, the Logitech doesn’t sit well on your lap. The magic keyboard is much more balanced on the lap
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
You have all the F buttons on the Magic Keyboard, you just have to hit command and another button. Like command and “.” Is esc, “[ “ is back and “]” is forward and so forth, you just have to relearn it. Which I like personally as it gives their other keys more room
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I have 2 cases for my iPad, 1 for the keyboard and 1 without. I agree that my biggest disappointment is the missing function keys on the magic keyboard, and the viewing angle thing is a big problem.
To open the case, what I do is I let the case sit on the table first, flip open the kick stand FIRST, then easily you lift the thicker side while just allowing the thinner side, which is the keyboard, to naturally bolt out and there, after landing the screen, you’re good to go, there’s no more need to “reach out” to the kick stand!
I prefer the keyboard folio over the magic keyboard except for the fact that those folios and smart covers break on me a year or two in. The logi keyboard looks like a super great alternative
I definitely don’t like the Apple Keyboard folio case, I don’t like how close it is to screen. It feels small and hard to type on. The magic keyboard feels natural
After months of usage of the Logitech combo touch I have mixed feelings. Yes, it is convenient. Yes, it is good. But the rubber around the speakers detaches and it looks horrible (not the first person to happen, you can see a lot of people in the internet talking about this) and the keys started to detach from the keyboard. I was avoiding it but will have to invest in the Magic Keyboard
Good call out on the benefit of the pass through charging on the apple keyboard. What that brought to mind, along with promoting going case less like a desktop machine, says to me apple designed their keyboard to be used in a desktop, stationary, scenario. To use the pass through charging you have to be physically attached to something that’s probably attached to a wall unless you’re using a battery.
i have the magic keyboard and wished i saw your review because all your gripes about it totally applies to my situation. Its been sitting on the side bc it simply does not work well with the angle for writing.
I’ve had keyboards like the Logitech one with kickstands before, and they just aren’t the same thing as the Magic Keyboard which really makes the iPad feel just like a laptop. I sit in bed or on the couch with mine a lot, and with the kickstand, this just doesn’t work! The overall rigidity of the MK case, and stiffness of the hinge make it so much more flexible for different use cases. A kickstand is reliant on having a flat horizontal surface behind the device to function properly. There are many use cases where there is no such surface! So with a kickstand case it is sorta kinda like a laptop, sometimes, but with MK it is exactly like one!
What I love about the Logitech keyboard compared to the Magic Keyboard is price. In my opinion the Magic Keyboard is over priced for an item that doesn’t even offer a function bar row of buttons and the size of the trackpad compared to the Logitech is just too small. What I also love about the Logitech Magic Keyboard is the build material. I don’t think it gets mentioned enough but the build material of the Magic Keyboard is just a huge finger print magnet. The Logitech keyboard in my opinion hides finger prints a lot better and is just comfortable to use.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I enjoyed using the Logitech combo touch, but the rubber edges easily damage over time… I saw review photos and didn’t think it would happen to me right away, but eventually the rubber edges around the ipad stretched and do not go back to how it originally was. Also, the rubber suffers peel damage. The Logitech case also damages more easily. They keys are nice and flat, but after a few months, the paint started to fade… Aside from that, it’s a great case! Now I’m using the Magic Keyboard. My ipad is now limited in movement, but if feels more protected. The Logitech combo touch is an awesome keyboard/case for the ipad.. but it does come with flaws. The kick stand is nice, but I prefer using the Magic Keyboard for typing. It just feels better knowing my ipad wont flop over. Magic Keyboard for me.
@@rinket7779 The quick open and close and more streamlined case like I talked about in this video. I use the keyboard most in keyboard and computer mode, and I think the Magic Keyboard does this best.
@@scottmckenna Hi sir! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
How easy is it to use the Logitech away from a desk/table top when you don’t have a smooth surface to anchor the back strut. Looks to me like it’s not very good if you’re going to use it on your lap.
I could get a 9th gen for 300,it's kind of useless when you could just get one from your local tech megamarket as they do ones that work with the magnetical dots.
I feel like the opening issue with the Logitech is actually solved with the kina rubber bend you mentionned for the pen Like puttin it on the stand puts the pen out of the way, so you have a easy access to open the keyboard And, having it on the stand makes the stand just a little bit open, so fingers can open it easily as well
Really like the thoughtful content for this clip, Scott! 👌 I myself more prefer the MKB as following reasons: 1. Power plug: it is the game changer for all, as the most two dongles that I need to use is SSD and Power. Thus, for the already power plug in I could save the rest Thunderbolt 4 for the SSD conveniently and effectively. 2. The gestures: surely it is so efficiency for user as just open and use it rightaway, instead of adjusting like Logi. 3. The Ipad itself while without MKB: in contrast with you, i found the easily deattachment of MKB with Ipad is the pro for user as it is so convenient. For protection now you would protect it with skin to the back or paperlike to the front. This still be my best option of Ipad Pro now and it would continuously for a while. Thanks and cheers!
I would add, that even with the iPad in the case, it‘s not entirely protected since the edges are still very much exposed. Also you can open the Combo touch from the cutout for the pencil, especially if you use the extra pencil sling. With the Magic Keyboard you also can‘t get a flat angle for more ergonomic writing, however, I‘ve heard that use of the keyboard on ypur lap is more ergonomic with the magic keyboard.
If you use it on your lap regularly, the combo touch is a very bad option unfortunately. With that said, if you use it as a tablet often, or like the protection the case offers, the Logitech is great with that
I have an iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (4th generation) and a Logitech case but it must be a generation prior to the one in the shootout here. Mine doesn’t detach from the case, or have a variable angle and it uses Bluetooth (not the magic connector) to connect. That being said, I’m very happy with it and still think it’s a great option and boosts the productivity factor of the iPad by a lot. I have to type / edit documents in French and English. On my Macs, if I want an accented character like “ é ” I simply push on the regular keyboard ‘e’ a little longer and on the screen it presents all of the available accented ‘e’ characters. I then type the number corresponding to the type of ‘e’ I want and it places it into my document. (On an iOS device, using the on screen keyboard is kind of the same; you hold the ‘e’ but then slide over to the one you need, let it go, and it’s in your text). On the Logitech case / keyboard I have, if I hold down the ‘e’, predictably, I just get a whole bunch of e’s in my document until I let go. (If I want many e’s on my Mac I have to hit the ‘e’ as many times as necessary). I have the option of changing the language of my Logitech keyboard to French (very easy to do, even dynamically, by just hitting the little ‘world’ key on my keyboard, but then my actual keys change values and I need to remember to hit the “/“ for an “ é “. Also, using this method, some accented characters require you to remember two keystrokes to get the one character… VERY error-prone and time-consuming. I’m thinking that because the AMK and newer gen LCC both use the Magic Connectors that the keyboard might act like on a Mac. So, question : Do both the current Apple Magic Case and Logitech Combo cases operate like a REAL Mac keyboard for accented chapters ? i.e. if you hold down a key the DEVICE will present a little menu for you to choose the desired alternate character ? Or do they both just give you a repetitive string of that character ? (You may need to ‘install’ a second language on your iPad temporarily to test this function) Thanks !
I had both of them, and keep combo touch. Expensive is always better. When people buy the cheaper one, the hunger to the expensive one is always kept until they finally buy it. But my experience is after getting used to combo touch, the Magic Keyboard only provides a more elegant experience that I’m working eleganter. At a expense of this, I have to bear the back camera when drawing, and use the ‘1300$ elegant’ very carefully (one damage costs from 26$ to more than 500$) And finally, I have to say, using iPad with a keyboard is still a performance art. Just bring a MacBook Air… and using iPad as a second scree. Another 500 gram doesn’t kill people.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I own the combo touch, and love it…BUT I have had one warranty replacement due to the case warping by the vent holes. Logitech told me that issue was “not normal”. My replacement was fine for about 3 months and now it’s warping in the same exact places.
I've watched quite a few videos comparing these two keyboards and I think this one is the best. Thank you! I'm a bit concerned about the attachment of a USB-C hub to the Logitech. I don't know if the side protection on the Logitech might restrict attachment of the hub.
It’s definitely harder to get a cable in depending on the thickness, but I haven’t had a major problem yet. With that said, since this video I’ve switched back to the Magic Keyboard. I use my ipad a ton on my lap, and the Logitech is terrible on the lap.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
Appreciate the thoroughness - really like how clean the magic keyboard is, but not sure it’s $300 clean. Maybe the magic key board in combination with a less expensive, better coverage case like an ESR magnetic case, but then you’re dealing with two cases still. Well done review of the two best options.
Yea I bought a Magic Keyboard with iPad 11 and enjoyed it, but debated the $399 CAD & no function keys like on others. I bought an on sale Logitech folio.
Surely the best way to use the iPad Pro : a folio case (I bought first the ESR and then an on sale Smart Folio), thin and lite, for most of the time usage, and the Magic Keyboard for sessions of writing
The only issue I have with the Logitech keyboard case is that they removed the flap that keeps the Apple Pencil secure. I am nitpicking here, but it’d be nice to see this come back in a later refresh
I’ve had the Logitech Combo, the Brydge Max+, and the Apple Magic Keyboard. I found the Brydge to excel in all areas, particularly the materials (aluminium) and the trackpad being the largest of any on the market- but the company recently went defunct. Partly because of how Apple sucked them dry. The Magic Keyboard/Keyboard folio OS integration was only made possible because of Apple leeching of Brydge’s long term development- Brydge wasn’t allowed access to the keyboard dev options unless they disclosed their full build plans and execution to Apple, when they tried to introduce pass through charging as part of their feature set, Apple refused to let them know whether the iPad Pros would have the magnets on the back to enable wireless charging. The Logitech is great for price and I’d recommend it for anyone not likely to use their iPad keyboard for longer than 4-5 hours. The Magic Keyboard is gorgeous, but the lap hold feels flimsy, the angle limits are overly restrictive, and for the price point, it’s insane that we don’t get aluminum, vertical orientation, or even fold over protection. It’s ridiculous. Part of me thinks they nerfed the Magic Keyboard specifically because they don’t want the iPad blocking or taking the market away from their MBAs. 😊 The Brydge’s backlighting, materials, dedicated function row, largest track pad, and full fold out angles make it amazing. Only con is that it’s a bit heavy, but still…. Sad that Apple was able to kill them out.
Thanks Scott. Great real world review. Both cases are great, what is your personal application. I lean your direction, love that I can snap a protected iPad away from the keyboard.
Have you tried using the Logi combo case (without the keyboard) on the Magic Keyboard stand? Are the magnets strong enough to hold the iPad with the case on? Long story but seems like I can get them both together. (Now have solid experience with both for around 6 months each individually)
I have the logitech one, and it’s the best purchase I have done, your ipad is safer, and works fantastic. Also the material last longer (I used to have the smart folio and after a time the material didn’t resist)
Hi, I just bought Logitech couple days ago but I got an issue relating to the globe key. I couldn't use it for switching between languages. Did you have this issue like me? Also, do you have any ways to set it as the language switching key.
Kasidit, thanks for pointing that out about the globe key. I can’t understand why Logi didn’t make it workable. BTW, I watched another video about the Logi keyboard case. The reviewer-the only person who has brought it up in a review of the Logi that I’ve watched so far-pointed out that, on the Logi keyboard, he was not able to hold certain keys down in order to select letters used in other languages which use the Roman alphabet. He also mentioned that he couldn’t find any *other* way to do so either. I didn’t read through the comments to see if someone showed some way to do it with keystroke-combos (like on my 2009 MacBook).
Has Logitech fixed the issue of the play button being pressed when carrying the iPad with the case closed? Most people hold the iPad in the palm of the hand when walking. Because of the design, the play button was easily pressed with very little pressure needed.
Thanks for the kind words. I will say that after this review for the last year, I have actually switched back to the Magic Keyboard. As someone who types and uses it like a computer more than anything else, the magic keyboard is better for that purpose.
Apple Pencil stylus sling. amzn.to/3n9Ecnz
Will the elastic that holds the Apple Pencil stretch out?
@@josephhii2168 I've been using it for over a year and it hasn't seemed like it's changed at all. It's been great.
@@scottmckenna Hi, what size sling do you recommend for Logitech combo touch ?
Do either of these have rubber stoppers on the keyboard to keep it from sliding?
The Logitech is a little more cumbersome. You poor love, how do you manage to cope?
You forgot to mention two thing: You can dettach the keyboard from the combo touch, turn it around and attach it again, so it folds back with the keys being on the inside. This way you don't have to worry about where you left the keyboard after using it. Number 2: the combo touch is finger print free!
Valid points for sure.
Thanks for that comment I had no idea!
I have a combo touch for the iPad (9th gen). You can't attach the keyboard the other way around and fold it back with the keys on the inside.
Maybe not all models do that. Because you definitely can with the model in this video.
@@scottmckenna I have just bought an iPad Air (5th gen) and Logitech Combo Touch for it. I can confirm that it can be attached backwards and folded back with the keys on the inside. Thanks to your review!
having owned the magic keyboard for my iPad air for nearly a year now, I love the design and so many people have asked how its floating and literally looks like magic. Also, the keyboard feels like a macbook in my opinion, probably uses the same structure idk. But as you mentioned in the video, having no function row is really annoying when using it like a laptop, and the limited adjustment is also annoying as sometimes, i like to have it extended a little further but you simply cannot. And the biggest annoyance is when you take the ipad off the case, there is no case for you to protect the device or even use as a kickstand. So for that reason, as a student, anyone looking for a keyboard for their ipad, i would personally recommend the logitech combo as it has a detachable design where the case still stays on the ipad and has more screen adjustment as well as a function row. But, for typing on your lap which I do a lot, as the magic keyboard has a flat bottom, it's easier to rest on your lap like an actual laptop instead of the logitech which is designed like a surface device. But whichever you pick, I'm sure will suit your needs.
I had a 10th gen iPad ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxhcEDB3r-OJ3_X5hQzr7k1ZofTQy1ao_U . Felt it getting pretty slow at times even after doing a reset. So I am using that as a tablet for my 5 year old son and got this 9th gen version. MUCH faster, a little slimmer, smaller bezels, all around a leap forward. Plus, for the price that’s about $130-$150 cheaper than a current new model this is a nice deal. I look forward to the M-series CPUs coming into iPads which will really help future proof these tablets better but these latest CPUs are pretty strong and should do better to last several years with no compromises.
A few things not mentioned: 1. Magic keyboard raises the screen higher towards your eyes and closer to your fingers. So it's more ergonomic for both viewing and touch. 2. The Magic Keyboard is more "lapable". It doesn't have a kickstand to dig into your legs. 3. Both designs have minimal screen wobble upon touch, but the Logitech is a little better in this category.
Then again, I wouldnt deem it more lapable because at the end of the day, it'll always be top heavy, and the Logitech keyboard has the kickstand for that extra support.
I don’t have any issues with this at all. It stays perfectly without any wobble. Even if there were a little bit it still looks 100 times better than any other option out there.
You absolutely have zero „screen wobble“ on the Logitech. Together with the function row it makes for me the superior case/keyboard.
@@mannyislikethat when i first got my ipad pro for school i got the combo touch, as on paper it seemed like the most ideal option, however it only took 3 months of daily use before the trackpad broke (lots of glitching and not tracking movement properly). While my gripe is not build quality (its likely i just had a defective unit as this isnt a widespread issue it seems) when i went to return it at the apple store, instad of exchanging i got the magic keyboard. And have been using it for the last year and a month. In terms of lapability the logitech is near impossible for actual use, with the edge of the kickstand often going over the knees and you having to adjust how you sit just so it balances. The function keys while nice, havent been something ive missed once i got accustomed to using the command centre with the quick actions, and in terms of daily driving, its hard to see any other option than the magic keyboard here.
i find that these tech reviewers can sometimes blow things way out of proportion, prehaps due to skewed perspective from being surrounded by newer and newer tech constantly. But screen wobble isn’t something i notice, and the function row issue is a little overblown.
lastly, the one advantage the logitech has is leaning it all the way back for apple pencil use, however in practice the kickstand is too flimsy to allow for a reliable work surface. Of course the magic keyboard has no real solution (i imagine apples marketing spiel was that you’d have both the keyboard and the magic folio case, and you’d hotswap between them) But i did find this little trick where you can nestle the ipad in the groove at the bottom of the keyboard, and tilt it back, providing a lower and stable surface (though this is nothing but a little hack, not a real fix)
@@SuperSocks7 wait, can you please explain your last paragraph? Do you mean resting it on the Magic Keyboard when it’s closed? Sorry, I didn’t really get what you were saying but really trying to find a solution for the same issue.
I have used/owned both keyboard cases. For me, I like the Logitech a little better but, honestly, you can’t go wrong with regard to quality. I agree with you that I wouldn’t recommend any other keyboard case beyond these two at this point.
Agreed.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
i originally bought the ipad for art, so i bought it with apples smart folio, which was amazing. and then i bought the magic keyboard for school, and i can easily switch between the 2 cases when its needed. if i need to work on an assignment, ill pop it on the keyboard, and if i want to sketch, i simply take it off, and put it on the smart folio. so, yeah
I just got the 12.9 inch m1 iPad Pro last month after using the 11 inch 2018 model iPad Pro for the last two years. Got the magic keyboard for both and its been incredible in both sizes. All the keyboard shortcuts and having zero lag on the trackpad/keyboard has been great. I use my ipad as a laptop most of the time, almost to the point where I forget that I can remove it from the keyboard. Its pretty clear they were built to go together from how well they work with each other.
I have both cases. Each is a good product and you can find the Logitech discounted to $150. Aside from price, however, go for Apple’s keyboard. When open it sits at a perfect angle for typing. Removal for note taking with the Apple Pencil is a dream. Unless you want to constantly pop the iPad inland out of the Logitech frame, you are carrying an extra heavy device for note taking. The Magic keyboard also sits the iPad firmly in your lap for typing. It is just a great design.
Logitech seems more compatible with why someone would buy an iPad in the first place - the flexible workflow. Personally a folio case plus k380 keyboard has been 👌🏻
that’s my setup lol
That's my set up too!
Except mine is a Zugu case with a k380 keyboard.
Yes but what about the trackpad ? It’s so convenient for productivity. The Magic Keyboard is a (expensive) dream.
I totally agree man!! Why would you buy an ipad case that doesn’t allow you to use it like an ipad lol 😅
I just watched this after I purchased the Logitech and this video makes me feel better about my decision so thank you!
I decided to keep both, and I use them both at different times.
does the logitech support the finger motions on the track pad?
Me too. I love the Logitech. Far more convenient. I’m glad I chose it.
@@ryansparzak8822 Yes it does.
I’ve been thru 4 different Logitech keyboard cases for iPads over the years. They always fail, the keys stop working, they are junk. I just bought the Apple keyboard and the keys are a much higher quality
The extra keys, the detachability, different angles, the slot for the pen, better protection and the price drove me to the Logitech one over apples. If Logitech just had a passthrough charging port it would be more or less perfect.
I agree about the pass through port. That would be the best for me.
Logitech for sure. The only Magic thing about the Apple Keyboard, is the price .. lol
hello, what are the cons of the logitech keyboard? if there is any
@@pasiaedcharles9198really only the lack of pass through charging persobally
Thank you for such a thorough review & especially for the Stylus Sling to hold the pencil. Definitely like the Logitech Combo Touch over the Apple Magic Keyboard. I disliked that iPad kept falling off the Magic Keyboard, in addition to not having a protective case around that fits around the iPad. Even with being careful, Ipad like anything can fall. For those reasons I have returned the Magic Keyboard. Logitech Combo Touch provides better protection, the kick stand even provides for a nice secured hold with my fingers in multiple areas when I remove the iPad from the detachable keyboard. Go Logitech!!
Just bought the Logitech Combo Touch for the main reason you mentioned - detachability. I use my iPad in sidecar a LOT, watch movies on it, etc, so the detachability is a huge value add for me. This video also showed me that the Combo Touch was more adjustable than I initially realized (I thought the kickstand distance was pretty static, apparently it's not). This makes the case even more valuable for me.
Glad the video was helpful. I ended up using the Magic Keyboard more for everyday use but that’s because I use the iPad more as a computer then tablet.
I have both of these cases, and I have to say that both are very good cases. But the choice will go down to use case. If you are someone who will type a lot on your iPad, the Magic Keyboard is the way to go. The angle is great for typing and I personally find that it is not as fatiguing to type on it as compared to the Combo Touch (perhaps due to the CT’s 70gf operating force vs the MK’s 60gf). But if you are someone who will use the iPad more as a tablet (in my case, as a writing tablet with the Apple Pencil), the CT is better because you can keep it in the case and use it as a tablet.
Exactly.
Great review. I purchased the Logitech Combo when it first came out and have not been disappointed. I was weighing up between Logitech and the Apple keyboard, but really you cannot compare them both. The Logitech is so multi functional. During the work day i can have it sit in front of me without the keyboard and use Universal Control with my Mac’s magic keyboard and trackpad. After work i can use it on the couch for personal emails and browsing etc. Use it without the keyboard for cooking or later watching content. All the while, protected with a nice case. I do agree if you only use your iPad Pro on a desk, maybe Apple’s keyboard is best. If you want something to take with you wherever you go, the Logitech Combo case is the outright winner.
After this review, I actually decided to go back to the Magic Keyboard primarily because of the keyboard and usage. I find the Logitech very uncomfortable on my lap or even desk in comparison to the true keyboard experience on the magic keyboard. I thin the Logitech is more versatile for sure, but for me, it's more about using it like a computer since that's how I use my iPad most often and the magic keyboard is quicker and more efficient to me.
@@scottmckenna Loved your review and was just about to buy the Logitech-grateful I saw this. I guess it takes some time to know how a product will work IRL. Now I’ll look for more recent reviews by you 😊
Hi sir im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I’ve had my Magic keyboard now for 2 years and I absolutely love it. I love the feel of the keys, and it fits nicely on my lap, a pillow or laying in bed. I don’t use function keys, so that’s never been a problem - I just swipe down to access the controls I need. I do a fair amount of writing with the case also. At those times I either flip the case around, or snatch it off and write on the closed case. Either way works, and I haven’t felt it was an issue. Lastly, the viewing angle has never been a problem. I tried the Logitech and it just takes up way too much space on my desk, and can’t be used in tight spaces.
What exactly do you mean by flipping the case around? I'm considering buying a Magic keyboard for college classes, and I enjoy writing my notes directly into goodnotes with my apple pencil. I thought the magic keyboard did not let you flip the display around so that the ipad can lay on top of the keyboard, but if that's possible I would definitely like to invest in it. It seems like the best option over the logitech case for someone who will be using it on the horribly undersized desks in auditorium lecture rooms, since the base support is the keyboard itself.
I might be crazy, but what I like most about the Magic Keyboard is that it takes up less space. A good example is if you fly a lot the Magic Keyboard sits perfectly on the tray. A lot of times I feel like the tray is too small for the Logi all spread out. Definitely an edge case for most. But I think Apple made it this way so that it literally could sit anywhere with no kickstand. I look weird but I just keep the folio cover in my back for if I want to read a paper or not user the Magic Keyboard.
If you detached the keyboard from the Logitech case, it too can take up less space. I can't imagine needing a keyboard whilst propped up on an airplane seat tray, but if that's a very common use case for you, then it would make sense why you'd prefer the Magic Keyboard.
Agree for your point
I’m an Apple guy but after much research got the combo touch. I was concerned with the trackpad but it works great! It’s much more versatile than the magic.
and is like half the price! I have the combo touch too and think it's great. i can't justify buying the Magic Keyboard when it doesn't have the row of function keys. i've seen excuses from apple stans that said there isn't enough room but i call bullshit on that - Logitech figured it out.
@@weston407 I’m still indecisive, do you still recommend it or it has some problems?
@@vintor6563 Absolutely. It works great in "laptop mode" and it isn't cumbersome at all if you want to (easily) remove the keyboard and use it in tablet mode. Also, it doubles as a protector for the iPad when you have it in tablet mode.
Honestly, I can't think of any complaints. I know this sounds like the review of someone being paid by Logitech but it really is a great product and I can't think of anything wrong with it. It even has little quality of life things that are really nice like a slightly recessed area for your charging Apple pencil so it doesn't get knocked off as easily as it would with the Magic Keyboard.
It looks like Apple realized that the missing function key row was a problem and they added it to their new Magic Keyboard BUT it's only compatible with the new iPads! Apple really needs to fix the iPad line and make a little more uniformity rather than it being their most fractured product line.
My Logitech Combo Touch (for 12.9" iPad Pro) only last 3 month (bought in Nov 2021). I applied the RMA, but there's no stock to replace the broken one since March. What a worldwide company.
I just bought the Logitech for my 10th gen iPad on Amazon for about $140, and I'm loving it. Smartest purchase I've made in a while.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
The Logitech Folio has a flap for the pen and it's viewing angles are awesome. I use it for my iPad Air 4 and the fact that I saved 130 odd dollars (compared to Magic Keyboard) was the cherry on top!
I’ve owned both, and the big thing to me is the ability to use the keyboard when you’re on a plane. Kickstands just don’t work on the tray table, you’ll just keep pushing the iPad off the back or flexing the keyboard. I plan to give that Stylus Sling thing a try though!
I agree. It's not good for lap use or small tables.
I purchased third party keyboard (designed like logitech) but the angle of the ipad and keyboard was awkward for me so after a month i decided to purchase apple magic keyboard and i’m Loving Loving it! The raised feature for the screen makes a whole lot of difference. The downside is as he said, there’s is no stand/protection for the ipad once you use take it out.
Hi Scott, I’m totality In love with the logi, I have had it for long time now. Another thing I really love with it is, that you actually can put the keyboard on the back and still have it with you and you don’t typing on it when you turn it. But if I am doing that, the iPad can’t stand by it self. Hopefully logi will make that possible one day. The thing I don’t like and it is the only thing, it is pretty heavy, but I can live with it
Both have pros and cons for sure.
There’s a version of the Logitech case without the detachable keyboard and also the pen has its place better designed, and the carry mode is really sturdy. Check all the other versions out before you make a decision.
@@mauriciomartineztoledo1515 sorry.. it’s iPad / logitech folio touch
I have the folio touch. I agree it's the best.
Too bulky and heavy. Too difficult to remove. Sorry
The Magic Keyboard is worth it because of all the small elements, like the hinge adjustment is really comfortable and the keys are really solid
After a year of using the Logitech, I’m still a fan, aside from the weight.
I’ve had two Apple keyboards (not the Magic), and the material of the cover is both a fingerprint magnet and begins to wrinkle and flake after a few months. The Logitech has a cloth surface that suffers from neither issue.
Also the Logitech features full side coverage and protects the Apple Pencil on the top where it stays charged - that’s a big deal for me. And the keyboard folds back so I don’t need to remove the iPad from the case to hold it in my hand.
And, oh yeah. The Logitech is roughly half the price.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I recently bought the magic keyboard & iPad Pro 11 for PT course readings, Zoom & essays during downtime at work. After a couple days of justifying paying more than my MacBook Air, I exchanged for a Logitech folio on sale & an iPad Air 64GB (use cloud storage) over the iPad 10.2. Didn’t feel right paying $1400 + tax CAD 😄🤔
The best part for me about the Magic Keyboard is the design of incorporating the pass though USB C on the opposite side of the IPAD USB C input, so you don’t have to snake the cable across you or saving that extra cable length.
I agree with that big time.
i bought an Ipad pro one year ago and ordered the Logitech combo for the price and reasons you’ve mentioned . I use it since then but there’s one thing annoying me a lot is that the space bar key miss almost one on two times…. I review my messages before launching and got to add the spaces on 3-4-5 words each time…So i just ordered the magic keyboard. Hope i’ll like it.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
The points you touched on about the two cases are similar to why I chose the Logitech over the Magic Keyboard. Also, Logitech keyboard cases tend to go on sale more at BBY than Apple so you have more opportunities to getting a better deal on the Logitech. I also feel like with the Logitech over the Magic Keyboard your getting both a case and keyboard, where with the Magic Keyboard your getting just a keyboard because once you detach the iPad from the Keyboard you are left with just the keyboard.
I also like about the Logitech is the function row. I like the fact that I can control the volume and media features from the keyboard rather than always having to access them from the control center. Also the keys on the Logitech feel roomier than what you get on the Magic Keyboard and also the trackpad is bigger on the Logitech and just as accurate.
The one thing I will give to the Magic Keyboard is the experience. I do get more of a satisfying experience than what I get from the Logitech, I can’t explain beyond that, but its what anyone feels from using an Apple product compared to a third party.
I've tried out the Logitech Combo Touch and I liked it a lot. Still, I ended up going for the Magic Keyboard - it's just too damn good.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I bought the logitech keyboard because it’s a full case that protects the sides. And if i detach the keyboard the ipad still has a case. The Magic Keyboard if detached, has a naked ipad
Yes, that's what I talked about as well. It's a nice feature for sure.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
Great review. I really enjoyed it. The Stylus Sling looks like a useful product. I think I'll go with the Logitech case for its versatility.
Great review, based on your suggestions I’m going to get the Logitech case. 😊 Could you link the sling you have your apple pen please?
I work in IT, as well as manage everything having to do with ‘mobile’, at the company I’m with. For a while now, I’ve been purchasing the Logitech Combo Touch, as well as the Folio Touch (when I’m trying to save a bit of money), for any users that are requesting keyboards for their iPads. The Logitech Folio Touch is almost identical to the Combo Touch, excepting the keyboard is permanently attached. I’be been really happy with them so far, and received very little complaints. About the only minus I’ve run into, is that they can be a bit harder to clean (because of the material/texture that they are made from). Also, I recently upgraded to an iPad Pro 12.9 for myself, and picked up another Combo Touch for it as well… Still happy as can be. I’m watching this video now, just because I started to worry that I was wrong to ignore the Apple Magic Keyboard, but this video covers all the points on why that would be a poor choice. That said, I was looking at the Magic keyboard ‘case’ because I find the weight of the Combo Touch (with keyboard removed) to still be a bit on the almost too heavy side… But, again, this video reminded me on all the things I would lose for that single gain. The Combo Touch really is a great keyboard/touchpad/case.
Going to look into the band for the pencil… the pencil falls off the magnet too easily, plus gets in the way of opening too much (I also find opening the Combo Touch can require ‘paying attention’ as you do it.
Awesome review! I have the Apple Magic Keyboard on my 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 and love it. I'm getting the new 2022 iPad Pro 12.9 (giving the 2020 to my daughter) and looking at both keyboard options you've reviewed. One complaint for both of these keyboards would be the added weight. I would think the Logitech adds even more but with better protection as it's a full case. It's a trade-off. I think you've convinced me to go with the Logitech as I really like the idea of kickstand without the keyboard. I don't travel enough to be concerned about the added weight. Thanks and nice job!
Hands down, the BEST comparison I’ve seen. Thanks.
Glad to heat it was helpful.
Great review Scott!
I just want to share my experience with the Logitech Combo Touch which I think you missed discussing in this video.
For those who are eyeing to buy the Logitech Combo Touch please bear in mind that the speaker side rubbers flare out after quite some time, I not only experienced this myself but saw another guy at the mall working on his iPad with the same issue.
I had to report it to Logitech and they acknowledge it as an aesthetic issue/defect and informed the store to give me either a replacement unit or store credit (which I traded in for the Magic Keyboard) I owned a black magic keyboard before but then I sold the iPad (pre-IOS 16 news).
+ opening the Logitech Combo Touch from its closed form is indeed a task every time you do it. :)
Yes I had this same issue, and in fact the thin rubber over one side actually broke.
I truly appreciate when videos are factual and straightforward. You literally just saved me from opting for the Magic Keyboard and making THAT mistake. Many many thanks!
I got the Logitech Combo, I LOVE IT. The case feels solid and protects my iPad perfectly. Still pretty light weight and the 3 ways to use it is so versatile. again I LOVE IT and im all about money saving!
Can you still use the keyboard to type while deattached from the ipad?
@@Spudspastic sorry, i actually have the folio touch logitech keyboard! oops
@@Spudspastic but i wouldn't think so since the smart connectors are what powers it and connects it to your ipad.
Great, thorough review. Appreciated. I’m with you. The Logitech feature that allows SEPARATION from the keypad, WITH the cover on the actual iPad is worth the price of admission. Plus $$$. I paid less for the Logitech model.
What i like about the charge through feature on the apple ipad magic keyboard is that it then frees up the USB-C port on the iPad for Harddrives or other connections whilst still being charged.
Yes that’s a nice feature for sure. I personally don’t use a lot of external connections and hard drives on my iPad but that’s definitely a valid and strong point for some people.
The stylus sling recommendation was the best part of the video for me. I love my magic keyboard. Thanks! Plus a well rounded video!
Yes. I love my stylus sling as well. Super useful.
@@scottmckenna Where can I buy it? Do you have a link ?
@@scottmckenna Where can I buy it? Do you have a link ?
I like the logi tech one because you can pop the keyboard off and your ipad is in a case 👌👌
Excellent review. I have seen four similar reviews, yours is the clearest and best. Thanks.
A perfect review. For what I want in a tablet like experience, I will buy the Logitech. Thank you for the great review.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching.
With the Logitech, no need to ditch the keyboard when using it with sidecar, just flip the keyboard to the back. Also, the Logitech doesn’t sit well on your lap. The magic keyboard is much more balanced on the lap
I 100% agree about lap use. I agree so much, in fact that I have actually gone back to using the magic keyboard more often for that exact reason.
That’s sad about lap use. Love the look of the Logitech. I’m disabled so need to use it in my lap
I wavered between the Apple Magic Keyboard and the Logitech Combo Touch. And now I can decide which is the best for me. Thanks a lot.
Thanks for the great review, I went with the Touch Combo, for the ability to separate and the added protection.
Glad that case will work our great for you.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
@@sodiumzirconium combo touch has more protection but the Magic Keyboard looks nice
You have all the F buttons on the Magic Keyboard, you just have to hit command and another button. Like command and “.” Is esc, “[ “ is back and “]” is forward and so forth, you just have to relearn it. Which I like personally as it gives their other keys more room
Really helpful. I'm buying the Logitech. Thanks a lot Scott.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I have 2 cases for my iPad, 1 for the keyboard and 1 without. I agree that my biggest disappointment is the missing function keys on the magic keyboard, and the viewing angle thing is a big problem.
What is the case that you use when you take your iPad out of the keyboard?
To open the case, what I do is I let the case sit on the table first, flip open the kick stand FIRST, then easily you lift the thicker side while just allowing the thinner side, which is the keyboard, to naturally bolt out and there, after landing the screen, you’re good to go, there’s no more need to “reach out” to the kick stand!
I prefer the keyboard folio over the magic keyboard except for the fact that those folios and smart covers break on me a year or two in. The logi keyboard looks like a super great alternative
I definitely don’t like the Apple Keyboard folio case, I don’t like how close it is to screen. It feels small and hard to type on. The magic keyboard feels natural
After months of usage of the Logitech combo touch I have mixed feelings. Yes, it is convenient. Yes, it is good. But the rubber around the speakers detaches and it looks horrible (not the first person to happen, you can see a lot of people in the internet talking about this) and the keys started to detach from the keyboard. I was avoiding it but will have to invest in the Magic Keyboard
Good call out on the benefit of the pass through charging on the apple keyboard. What that brought to mind, along with promoting going case less like a desktop machine, says to me apple designed their keyboard to be used in a desktop, stationary, scenario. To use the pass through charging you have to be physically attached to something that’s probably attached to a wall unless you’re using a battery.
Thank you. Just what I needed, a concise comparison that cuts to the chase.
i have the magic keyboard and wished i saw your review because all your gripes about it totally applies to my situation. Its been sitting on the side bc it simply does not work well with the angle for writing.
I strictly use the Magic Keyboard now, and I haven’t used the Logitech keyboard in awhile.
I’ve had keyboards like the Logitech one with kickstands before, and they just aren’t the same thing as the Magic Keyboard which really makes the iPad feel just like a laptop. I sit in bed or on the couch with mine a lot, and with the kickstand, this just doesn’t work! The overall rigidity of the MK case, and stiffness of the hinge make it so much more flexible for different use cases. A kickstand is reliant on having a flat horizontal surface behind the device to function properly. There are many use cases where there is no such surface! So with a kickstand case it is sorta kinda like a laptop, sometimes, but with MK it is exactly like one!
What I love about the Logitech keyboard compared to the Magic Keyboard is price. In my opinion the Magic Keyboard is over priced for an item that doesn’t even offer a function bar row of buttons and the size of the trackpad compared to the Logitech is just too small. What I also love about the Logitech Magic Keyboard is the build material. I don’t think it gets mentioned enough but the build material of the Magic Keyboard is just a huge finger print magnet. The Logitech keyboard in my opinion hides finger prints a lot better and is just comfortable to use.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I enjoyed using the Logitech combo touch, but the rubber edges easily damage over time… I saw review photos and didn’t think it would happen to me right away, but eventually the rubber edges around the ipad stretched and do not go back to how it originally was. Also, the rubber suffers peel damage. The Logitech case also damages more easily. They keys are nice and flat, but after a few months, the paint started to fade… Aside from that, it’s a great case!
Now I’m using the Magic Keyboard. My ipad is now limited in movement, but if feels more protected. The Logitech combo touch is an awesome keyboard/case for the ipad.. but it does come with flaws. The kick stand is nice, but I prefer using the Magic Keyboard for typing. It just feels better knowing my ipad wont flop over. Magic Keyboard for me.
I agree with most of your thoughts for sure. I now use the Magic Keyboard again as my only keyboard.
I agree the edges on the logi tech get damaged a lot
@@scottmckenna why did you switch to the Magic Keyboard after saying you prefer the Logitech?
@@rinket7779 The quick open and close and more streamlined case like I talked about in this video. I use the keyboard most in keyboard and computer mode, and I think the Magic Keyboard does this best.
@@scottmckenna Hi sir! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
How easy is it to use the Logitech away from a desk/table top when you don’t have a smooth surface to anchor the back strut. Looks to me like it’s not very good if you’re going to use it on your lap.
As a person that uses an iPad for handwriting notes and drawing the ability to flip the keyboard around is huge for me. Hope this helps someone :))
There is a mous case that you can use with the magic keyboard if you really want a case that you can use with the magic keyboard.
I could get a 9th gen for 300,it's kind of useless when you could just get one from your local tech megamarket as they do ones that work with the magnetical dots.
I feel like the opening issue with the Logitech is actually solved with the kina rubber bend you mentionned for the pen
Like puttin it on the stand puts the pen out of the way, so you have a easy access to open the keyboard
And, having it on the stand makes the stand just a little bit open, so fingers can open it easily as well
Damn! That was a very well written video👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks for the kind comment.
Thanks for sharing!
Apple agrees with this option as well considering its one of few brands sold by Apple on their site, and in-store.
Really like the thoughtful content for this clip, Scott! 👌 I myself more prefer the MKB as following reasons:
1. Power plug: it is the game changer for all, as the most two dongles that I need to use is SSD and Power. Thus, for the already power plug in I could save the rest Thunderbolt 4 for the SSD conveniently and effectively.
2. The gestures: surely it is so efficiency for user as just open and use it rightaway, instead of adjusting like Logi.
3. The Ipad itself while without MKB: in contrast with you, i found the easily deattachment of MKB with Ipad is the pro for user as it is so convenient. For protection now you would protect it with skin to the back or paperlike to the front.
This still be my best option of Ipad Pro now and it would continuously for a while.
Thanks and cheers!
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I got the Logitech case. It's so perfect. Really nice unit.
I would add, that even with the iPad in the case, it‘s not entirely protected since the edges are still very much exposed. Also you can open the Combo touch from the cutout for the pencil, especially if you use the extra pencil sling. With the Magic Keyboard you also can‘t get a flat angle for more ergonomic writing, however, I‘ve heard that use of the keyboard on ypur lap is more ergonomic with the magic keyboard.
If you use it on your lap regularly, the combo touch is a very bad option unfortunately. With that said, if you use it as a tablet often, or like the protection the case offers, the Logitech is great with that
I have an iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (4th generation) and a Logitech case but it must be a generation prior to the one in the shootout here. Mine doesn’t detach from the case, or have a variable angle and it uses Bluetooth (not the magic connector) to connect. That being said, I’m very happy with it and still think it’s a great option and boosts the productivity factor of the iPad by a lot.
I have to type / edit documents in French and English. On my Macs, if I want an accented character like “ é ” I simply push on the regular keyboard ‘e’ a little longer and on the screen it presents all of the available accented ‘e’ characters. I then type the number corresponding to the type of ‘e’ I want and it places it into my document.
(On an iOS device, using the on screen keyboard is kind of the same; you hold the ‘e’ but then slide over to the one you need, let it go, and it’s in your text).
On the Logitech case / keyboard I have, if I hold down the ‘e’, predictably, I just get a whole bunch of e’s in my document until I let go. (If I want many e’s on my Mac I have to hit the ‘e’ as many times as necessary).
I have the option of changing the language of my Logitech keyboard to French (very easy to do, even dynamically, by just hitting the little ‘world’ key on my keyboard, but then my actual keys change values and I need to remember to hit the “/“ for an “ é “. Also, using this method, some accented characters require you to remember two keystrokes to get the one character… VERY error-prone and time-consuming.
I’m thinking that because the AMK and newer gen LCC both use the Magic Connectors that the keyboard might act like on a Mac.
So, question : Do both the current Apple Magic Case and Logitech Combo cases operate like a REAL Mac keyboard for accented chapters ? i.e. if you hold down a key the DEVICE will present a little menu for you to choose the desired alternate character ? Or do they both just give you a repetitive string of that character ?
(You may need to ‘install’ a second language on your iPad temporarily to test this function)
Thanks !
I had both of them, and keep combo touch. Expensive is always better. When people buy the cheaper one, the hunger to the expensive one is always kept until they finally buy it. But my experience is after getting used to combo touch, the Magic Keyboard only provides a more elegant experience that I’m working eleganter. At a expense of this, I have to bear the back camera when drawing, and use the ‘1300$ elegant’ very carefully (one damage costs from 26$ to more than 500$)
And finally, I have to say, using iPad with a keyboard is still a performance art. Just bring a MacBook Air… and using iPad as a second scree. Another 500 gram doesn’t kill people.
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
I own the combo touch, and love it…BUT I have had one warranty replacement due to the case warping by the vent holes. Logitech told me that issue was “not normal”. My replacement was fine for about 3 months and now it’s warping in the same exact places.
I think I might go with the Magic Keyboard for my iPad Pro 11 to distinguish it from my Microsoft Surface.
One good thing about the Magic Keyboard is that the iPad usb C port is free for adding anything you want or to plug an external monitor.
Agreed. The pass through USB C port is great.
BTW, I’ve watched this video at least 6 times-this is a GREAT review!
I've watched quite a few videos comparing these two keyboards and I think this one is the best. Thank you! I'm a bit concerned about the attachment of a USB-C hub to the Logitech. I don't know if the side protection on the Logitech might restrict attachment of the hub.
Glad you enjoyed the video.
It’s definitely harder to get a cable in depending on the thickness, but I haven’t had a major problem yet. With that said, since this video I’ve switched back to the Magic Keyboard. I use my ipad a ton on my lap, and the Logitech is terrible on the lap.
The Logitech model isn't available for the earlier gens of the 12.9 iPad Pro, is it?
Thanks. Really help make my decision.
So happy to see this video ,i purchased the Logitech 1 day before i seen this video ..great job on the video
Hi! im planning to buy this combo touch for my ipad air for $165 here in my country are yours still working? and do you recommend it over apple magic keyboard which is also on discount here and i can buy it for $222. Looking forward to your response it will be a huge help for me to decide, thank you so much!🙏
Appreciate the thoroughness - really like how clean the magic keyboard is, but not sure it’s $300 clean. Maybe the magic key board in combination with a less expensive, better coverage case like an ESR magnetic case, but then you’re dealing with two cases still. Well done review of the two best options.
Yea I bought a Magic Keyboard with iPad 11 and enjoyed it, but debated the $399 CAD & no function keys like on others. I bought an on sale Logitech folio.
Surely the best way to use the iPad Pro : a folio case (I bought first the ESR and then an on sale Smart Folio), thin and lite, for most of the time usage, and the Magic Keyboard for sessions of writing
The only issue I have with the Logitech keyboard case is that they removed the flap that keeps the Apple Pencil secure. I am nitpicking here, but it’d be nice to see this come back in a later refresh
I use the Stylus Sling. It's the best way to go.
I’ve had the Logitech Combo, the Brydge Max+, and the Apple Magic Keyboard. I found the Brydge to excel in all areas, particularly the materials (aluminium) and the trackpad being the largest of any on the market- but the company recently went defunct. Partly because of how Apple sucked them dry. The Magic Keyboard/Keyboard folio OS integration was only made possible because of Apple leeching of Brydge’s long term development- Brydge wasn’t allowed access to the keyboard dev options unless they disclosed their full build plans and execution to Apple, when they tried to introduce pass through charging as part of their feature set, Apple refused to let them know whether the iPad Pros would have the magnets on the back to enable wireless charging.
The Logitech is great for price and I’d recommend it for anyone not likely to use their iPad keyboard for longer than 4-5 hours. The Magic Keyboard is gorgeous, but the lap hold feels flimsy, the angle limits are overly restrictive, and for the price point, it’s insane that we don’t get aluminum, vertical orientation, or even fold over protection. It’s ridiculous. Part of me thinks they nerfed the Magic Keyboard specifically because they don’t want the iPad blocking or taking the market away from their MBAs.
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The Brydge’s backlighting, materials, dedicated function row, largest track pad, and full fold out angles make it amazing. Only con is that it’s a bit heavy, but still…. Sad that Apple was able to kill them out.
I love the Brydge keyboard most for my iPad Pro. It gives the best MacBook feel to the iPad setting
Great video, impressively concise and helped me decide 👍
that stylus sling is AMAZING i may just get the magic keyboard for it
Very helpful video - thanks 😊
Thanks Scott. Great real world review. Both cases are great, what is your personal application. I lean your direction, love that I can snap a protected iPad away from the keyboard.
This is an excellent video . You have a new subscriber!!!!
Wish you could use the Logitech in your lap--which is how I use my Ipad Pro (12.9).
Have you tried using the Logi combo case (without the keyboard) on the Magic Keyboard stand? Are the magnets strong enough to hold the iPad with the case on? Long story but seems like I can get them both together. (Now have solid experience with both for around 6 months each individually)
I have the logitech one, and it’s the best purchase I have done, your ipad is safer, and works fantastic. Also the material last longer (I used to have the smart folio and after a time the material didn’t resist)
Glad you like it.
Hi, I just bought Logitech couple days ago but I got an issue relating to the globe key. I couldn't use it for switching between languages. Did you have this issue like me? Also, do you have any ways to set it as the language switching key.
Kasidit, thanks for pointing that out about the globe key. I can’t understand why Logi didn’t make it workable.
BTW, I watched another video about the Logi keyboard case. The reviewer-the only person who has brought it up in a review of the Logi that I’ve watched so far-pointed out that, on the Logi keyboard, he was not able to hold certain keys down in order to select letters used in other languages which use the Roman alphabet. He also mentioned that he couldn’t find any *other* way to do so either. I didn’t read through the comments to see if someone showed some way to do it with keystroke-combos (like on my 2009 MacBook).
Has Logitech fixed the issue of the play button being pressed when carrying the iPad with the case closed? Most people hold the iPad in the palm of the hand when walking. Because of the design, the play button was easily pressed with very little pressure needed.
Greatly explained thank u I make my mind..
By far the best comparison that I have found. Great work! And I agree on the Logitech as #1.
Thanks for the kind words. I will say that after this review for the last year, I have actually switched back to the Magic Keyboard. As someone who types and uses it like a computer more than anything else, the magic keyboard is better for that purpose.
Great and helpful review. I love the Logitech setup a lot!
i have an ipad and its seasy to use and to carry when im traveling or when im at home its just more convinient than any heavy laptop