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- Mike Florio and Myles Simmons discuss why for most starting QBs, a no trade clause is pretty meaningless. However for Jared Goff, it provides security knowing the Lions won't try to dump him like the Rams. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #DetroitLions
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Mike you're wrong. Brad Holmes wanted Jared Goff from the very beginning to be the Lions QB. They did a small extension for him between year 1 & 2.
florio is almost always wrong about football. he is good with the legal aspects. he is a lawyer... about just football i only listen to simms. about the legal stuff, finances, social issues, i will listen to florio.
HOW TF DO YOU KNOW DUDE YOU HAVE NOT EVEN A REMOTE AMOUNT OF ACCESS TO THE LIONS LET ALONE BRAD HOLMES YOU COUCH FAN STAY IN YO LANE!!!!!! 😒👎🏾
@@newnewjohnson4776 alright bears fan, Brad clearly chose him twice.
How many times does Holmes and Campbell have to say they wanted Goff? God a Florio you keep pushing your narrative but the only constant in this is the FACT that Holmes has repeatedly stated he wanted Goff. Just STFU already about Goff being trash.
If Goff had genuine value the rams wouldn’t have needed to give away an extra first round pick. Goff was a far younger player than Stafford, if he was viewed as a genuine upgrade those trade terms make no sense.
@@christophercolasurdo919one man’s trash is another man’s treasure! Brad has a hell of a poker face. I believe Brad was a scout for the Rams when Goff was picked #1 overall. Tell me that’s not one of his guys!
@@brentstack3267When Brad Holmes was a scout for the Rams, Jared Goff was like 18 so I don't think he was necessarily his guy, but it seems that it's a good fit and regardless of what happens going forward, he's had a resurgence in his career after clearly losing his confidence for a few years. Not saying he was trash, but he struggled without a doubt. The Lions are doing everything in their power to instill confidence and reassurance to provide a comfortable environment and as of the middle of last year it seemed like Goff found his own voice and started leading the team rather than just the offense.
@christophercolasurdo919 mate you can't compare a player now to 4 years ago 😂😂😂 he's 10x the quarterback now that he was then
Coming of seasons of 4600 30/12 and 4500 29/7 that's top 8 qb play.
Last year he was statistically better then Mahomes and Allen
@@emmitttraynor8939 Nothing about what I said was comparing current Goff to years ago Goff. It was calling nonsense on the idea that years ago the Lions Brass was sold on him as a quality NFL starter. If they were the Rams wouldn’t have needed to pay *more* in trade assets to dump him (and his contract).
Florio is full of it.
Mike please stop using the word trash when referring to Goff...
Florio hates goff. end of story... "Let the hate flow through you Florio"
Again, GM Brad Holmes wanted Jared Goff. He saw Goff as a net positive to the trade. Hence why Holmes didn't entertain other offers for Matthew Stafford.
No shit, if he didn’t want Goff he wouldn’t have taken on his big contract (big at the time of the trade)
Consider this Mike - Brad Holmes was instrumental in getting Goff drafted #1 with LA. He always believed in him and was expecting to make him the "centerpiece" as you put it on the Lions. If you listen to Goff and Campbell (and Holmes) over the past three years 😏they have consistently backed Goff as the Lions quarterback. Holmes knew what they were getting.
Jared changed Detroit from a bottom tier team to a contender. You get paid big bucks if you can do that.
Brad Holmes did that Goff helped
McVay should only regret the way he handled the situation. There's nothing wrong with wanting a different QB that you feel is better equipped to run your offense. Having dinner and hanging out on vacation with Stafford behind Goff's back and then trading him without his knowledge is where he went wrong. McVay got his Super Bowl and that's all that matters in football.
It’s pretty crazy as how many times from the beginning Holmes and Campbell have said Goff isn’t in Detroit to be a bridge QB, but these guys somehow keep repeating the same shit over, and over.
Vikings gm and coach said the same thing about Sam Darnold lmao
@@chrisstowe3448 pretty dumb comparison
@@chrisstowe3448ur am idiot.
@@zeekot4064 is it? Because you say it is? At the time the lions got Goff everybody was counting the days until they drafted a new qb. Nobody thought he would be there long term considering the rams had to give up 2 1sts just for the lions to take him.
@@chrisstowe3448 who’s everybody ? The media ? Anyone knows Goff isn’t a throw 50 times a game qb . He’s good with a run game and off of play action like he was when he had Todd gurley .. Holmes knows that , and knows we had a good o-line coming in and planned on having a run game offense instead of just relying on the pass .. that’s why when they say he was never meant to be a bridge qb I believe it … and how do you compare Sam Darnold to Goff .. Goff was always a better qb than Darnold ..
Incorrect, we had offers for 2 first round picks from other teams also. We wanted Goff.
Did any of those offers involve a better qb then Goff and a third?
It was reported they could have got two top 10 picks from the Panthers that year and they specifically targeted Goff
I believe the organization was doing right by Stafford. Stafford wanted Rams over the Panthers.
The only way McVay and the Rams would regret the Stafford trade after he won them a Super Bowl would be if Goff became Mahomes. Goff hasn't done anything to make them regret it. Yes, he's played well, but not as well as Stafford has (when healthy). Let's see Goff win a Super Bowl in Detroit before it's even a question.
Translation-you can't trade me you have to pay me cuz I couldn't get this deal anywhere else.
Nothing that has been said or done by the Lions and from their standpoint suggests that Goff was NOT going to be the centerpiece. In fact, eveery indication FROM THE BEGINNING, Brad, Dan and the entire organization has, in fact, indicated that Jared would absolutely be the QB. You're continued beating of that dead horse is simply laughable at this point.
Florio and Simms are the worst when it comes to commenting on the Lions
I don’t know the legality of the “no-trade clause” exactly but I think it’s usually something like, “The Team cannot trade player to any other team without that player’s consent.” It’s something along those lines. Now if so it gives the player leverage at least to his next move. He could retire, he could simply reject the trade, or he could demand to be traded to only a subset of teams. That way, say, Goff could agree to go to the Vikings but reject the Jets, as an example.
I can only hope that's the case.
Oh dude... ain't nobody agreeing to go to the Vikings. 🤣
@@innerspace56I think it was just a random example
My boy got what he deserved. And the lions made the right call. Now its time for Jared to prove the haters wrong thats all he has left to do in his career. On ring with the. Lions he will be talked about forever.
McVey has demonstrated his abilities as an NFL HC and evaluator of talent, but he definitely stabbed Jared Goff in the back after leading him to believe he was his QB throughout the duration of his contract.
We sure he's all that when evaluating QBs? NFL is littered with coaches that know how to build a good offensive scheme, but can't evaluated QBs.
@@Banzai51 Too small a sample size to accurately assess McVey's abilities in specifically evaluating QB's, and YES, there are a lot of NFL coaches who can scheme an offense but are not keen in evaluating talent, at the QB position or otherwise.
I was trying to be respectful in my comments about McVey's coaching abilities while pointing out what I find to be a personally untrustworthy guy.
He won a Superbowl, so the end justifies the means. If you ask McVay he would do it 100 out of 100 times, and all coaches would. A matter of fact if you give the Lions the opportunity to get rid of Goff tomorrow knowing it would result in a Superbowl, they would make the same decision.
@@JAmCaM212 Since the Lions signed Goff to this contract, I guess they believe that he gives them a better chance of a Superbowl than trading him for some other QB would.
With the way he played in the superbowl and the way he played in 19 and 20 he kinda had to move off him. Shout out to goff he improved but most of us if not everyone thought he wasn’t going to be good anymore
Brad Holmes was in charge of college scouting when they drafted golf. He didn’t coach him, but he knew he was capable of. He got two Forst pics and a quarterback that he thought could do better in the system. They originally ran in LA. And that’s the system. They were pretty much running in Detroit.
I love The Office reference. 👏 Well done
He’s more secure now compared to his last contract of 4 years 134 million 😂 it’s almost sickening! These guys get paid this much money to throw a football.
No one can see bulletin board material where none is there like Mike Florio.😏
Mike u gotta let it go it’s very obvious the Lions want Goff but OBVIOUSLY they weren’t 100% sold when he 1st arrived but he’s done everything they want since arriving.
Myles holding the Rams water per usual
$$$ = dog collar
"Based on 23 years of doing football". 😊 If you haven't taken a snap or coached a team, you haven't done football. You're just like the rest of us.
Mike Florio. One of the driving forces behind the Lions success. How do the other Vikings fans take that? Does it go down like medicine? I mean... he's still doing it!
Vikings fans, come get your mans.
Quarterback’s that are good. Will be wanting 60 plus million in 2 years.
I don’t think Dak gets this sort of money. Goff has many playoff wins, went to two NFC Championship games and 1 Superbowl.
Dak hadn’t done anything in the post season.
@@elitedrumlessons6174 good point. What Dak wants and what he gets are 2 different things
JARED GOFF QB #16
A man on a mission, a man with TRUE GRIT!!!
Welcome back JARED, we believe in you!!!
I just listened to paint drying
I think the Rams coach and organization said we have Jimmy G, we can't win and they were dying to make trades to start with.
Who gave a Jeff Dunham doll a NFL show?
I heard him say something about his son being a Vikings fan for that matter. I think he is so there you go you can’t expect intelligent conversation. It’s just that simple he can’t make that up.
It’s almost like these guys don’t watch football they just talk about it 😂
Ya gotta do it one more time to make me a believer Detroit.
Goff is the same QB he was with the Rams lol. Stop Florio.
Matthew Stafford led the NFL in 2021 with 17 interceptions. He's lucky that the 18th duck he floated in the NFC Title game was dropped by the 49ers DB that went right thru his hands. He throws that pick and no SB ring for the Rams that year.
Goff hits that TD throw in his superbowl and Rams win, he probably doesn't get off-loaded. Lots of what ifs
I dont even like listening to these things. It's like you guys are joking around about goff. He wants to feel safe cause Shawn mcvay shipped his ass off here. He's gonna win a super bowl even if cowboys fans or greenbay fans like it or not
Florio 🤣🤣
McVay won a Superbowl with Stafford. Goff still hasn't and Goff still isn't better than Stafford lol. Let me know when Goff wins a superbowl. Mike Florio....yes you are pulling something out of your butt! McVay is happy. Trust me.
I agree with a few comments so far. This is a bad and very incorrect take. If Brad Holmes did this just for the picks, explain every other well thought out play has made aquiring players. The no trade clause is a two way decision. Really bad take.
Its hilarious that Lions fan believe the shit their GM says.
Tf? What "sh1t"
One thing most fans don’t know about Goff: he scored a 36 on his Wonderlic. That’s actually really good as I believe NFL QB average is 25 although I’d have to verify. But he has a beautiful throwing motion and very good stats all the way around. He’s been to one Super Bowl and if not for Campbell’s screwing up would’ve been to two. But that Wonderlic score has a lot to do with his success. There are QBs who get way too much hype who can’t win a playoff game and have awful Wonderlic scores - you know who they are so I won’t even waste my time typing their overrated names - but the Lions are playing Goff for a reason: he gives them a good chance at winning a Lombardi Trophy.
CJ Stroud has a terrible wonderlich score. Remember pre draft coverage?
I don't think it relates to the NFL in any statistically significant way. Good for Goff though I guess.
Man I guess I missed the part of that game where Dan Campbell was out there DROPPING PASSES AND MISSING TACKLES. Weird. I'll go back and look again.
@@innerspace56100%
Pathetic take. Still TRYING TO DEBATE? Mcvay is a champion Goff isn’t. WTH are you talking about? Florio hates that the rams along with everyone else, that only Tom Brady and Matthew stafford have super bowls with new teams in their first year.
Jerod is good enough for Detroit Rock City Lions 💥💙. What’s your deal Mike. That was so unneeded.
Spot on Mike
Mike do you think for even one second before you open your mouth?
Lions wont ever be able to make up for trading nighttrain lane..facts
McVay is all in with Stafford but he is 36.
Drop the mike! Period!!!
Second day in a row that the comment section kept me from watching a pft bit on goff... im starting to think florios bf has goff on his banglist
21 head coaches have won Superbowls. Rare as rocking horse shit. McVay will have or should have no Walker Brother song playing.
Them boys ain't losing their jobs???
Lions fans are drunk off their success last year. Goff will never be a top 5 QB.
The cope is real huh. Sorry nfc north
hey floroi do you even read these comments or are you beyond us minions
Hey Mike can you please play a clip of either Brad or Dan ever calling Goff a bridge QB like you always say. Why do you keep pushing this narrative when it's literally never been said by anyone in the Lions organization. You sound so extremely stupid when you talk about the Lions and specifically Goff.
n your such a hater you really make me sick, you wouldn't know talent if you stepped in it what Allen how turnovers does he have over 4 years.more than anyone in football
It was mostly security???? That one sentence pisses me off. It's crazy how out of touch these guys are. They'll make more in 2 games than I will make in a lifetime. There's nothing saying these guys can't get a real job some day like the rest of us. Just state it for what it is. The generational wealthy, getting multi-generational wealthy.
NBC provides the lowest level of NFL content. There are several basement podcasts that do better.
To see the money these guys make + the 6 months they get off a year, and then to hear these players complain about having to play an extra game, or how the owners that pay them millions are out to get them.
Yesterday's victories become tomorrow's losses. At least that's how it goes with NFL Contracts.
Maybe. Right now it sure does feel like old losses are the reasons we win now. See you in the playoffs.
He took a page out of Kirko's contract signings
By winning playoff games?
@@innerspace56 from the no trade clause in contracts. What r u even talking about right now?
Goff is lucky that he has played his entire career in the NFC. If Jared Goff had played or played in say the AFC North or AFC west or even the AFC East, then I don’t think Goff would have had the success that he has had. Same thing with Kirk Cousins spending his entire career in the NFC.
This wont come back to bite the Lions at all . . . .
Why would it ?
You’re right it won’t. This will be a lower end QB contract in two years and they’ve wanted him since the beginning. He was never a “bridge QB”. Holmes was WITH the rams when the Goff pick was made. He specifically targeted him as the next franchise QB and Brad has said that FROM THE BEGINNING
@@zeekot4064 Why wont it?
@@Adri_Unsung Your use of capitol letters is impressive. The two years that proceed the "lower end" ( I like quotes too ) will be fraught with 30 TD's coupled with 16 turn overs (sic - this is a fancy term that means I understand it's not a "real word" ) and 8 yards per completion personal stas versus the teams 10.x this year. Is that sustainable? Perhaps with Ben staying. Nothing in Goff's career suggests his fumbling and int issues will correct themselves. So, is one year evidence enough to earn that contract? The Lions are betting yes.
@@waltercarol9714 huh? Why would it though ? He’s been playing good.. also he started to play better once he started to trust his line instead of rushing to get the ball out which was halfway through the year before when they went on the winning streak .. there’s no reason to think it will backfire on them
Reality is, Stafford at 36 is still the better QB. Take that run game away from Goff and well, let's just say, Oh sh!t. 😳
If Jared win a ring the lions win the trade right after that
Doubling down on stupid
The Lions have signed away their lives because he is going to worse especially if Ben Johnson leaves
Sure
Lions fan of 30+ years here. I feel fine.
You will come out of time out as you learn
@@innerspace56 because you never won lol and you won’t with Goff
Can’t believe they allowed Goff to flease them into a no trade cause …. This will cause Campbell and the GM to get fired …
You clearly don’t understand football, Brad Holmes is the best gm in the nfl! Lions would never fire him
Another air head comment lol you probably think Goff contract is literally 5 years & worth 212 in full lol. To ask for a no trade clause means he wants to be a lion!! REMEMBER when you guys said nobody wants to go to Detroit? Better yet stay in Detroit well look now NO TRADE CLAUSE
I'd say its not uncommon or unheard of to have that in contract. Cousins added that into his contract with the dirty birds.
No one...NO ONE who actually pays attention to this team could have said something like that...
Mmmhm🤔..
It's like the equivalent of someone explaining how 2 + 2= 4 but yet you somehow come out with 14..😂.. it's like how in the world does everybody else get it right but you somehow land on that answer??! ..
" Oh it's because he didn't do the homework... "😮
Me when I’m an idiot
Better hope ben Johnson dont leave. Jared is trash
I just hope they don't put you on burgers and fries 🍟
@@brokentubing been there done that. Jared still trash😂😂
@@edwardlamar3650 Hey, glad you moved up to a professional dumpster. Enjoy