Living with the Giulia Quadrifoglio - My most honest review EVER !
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2020
- The Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio is one of my favourite saloon cars, so getting to spend the week with one was something I was looking forward to. There are many things I love about this car, but there are also a few things that challenge me. In this video I am as honest as I have ever been on a review. Can the things I love about this car win me over so that I can forget the things I don't like ?
Thanks to Alfa Romeo UK for letting me have the car. I hope they and you appreciate my honesty.
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Working for a performance manufacturer, I can confirm the front wheels skipping is normal in low grip situations and is caused by the front geometry (including Ackerman principle plus camber change) that can be worse with rear wheel drive pushing when on full lock. It is nothing to worry about and can sometimes be improved with different tyres. Don't let it put you off buying the car🤔 Another great vid when you were clearly cold and tyred (get it!) 👍
I see what you did there 😂
Another Italian masterpiece!
You seem to get massively hung up on summer tyres and traction on a high power rwd car in the winter......
I’m running Goodyear Supersport tyres on mine and the traction for a powerful rwd car is ridiculously good. That torque vectoring differential is excellent. It puts my previous high power rwd cars to shame (F82 M4, E92 M3 etc)
I agree the exhaust thing is silly from AR, but it’s like £300 to have rectified by various aftermarket companies....not exactly a big deal is it.
The tyres skipping is down to akerman geometry, it does it on various other cars like the cayman, TT etc. Just a small trade off for the better steering.
Buy one, fit PS4S or GY SS tyres and fit the exhaust module. Job done ✅
Seriously. It was late and I was tired when I watched this and I actually got mad and knew I had to turn in at that point. Half the video complaining about the tires is like getting a shiny new phone and then complaining about the case. Change the case! You should be complaining to whomever loaned the car with a poor tire choice for regional conditions. Anyway, otherwise, I really like this guy.
Agreed fitted goodyear supersports the traction even in freezing condtions perfect. also remapped and flaps opened in D mode
@@johncanning8347 same here, 600bhp is nice too 😋
A PlayStation4 won't help...duhhh!
@stephen longfield
I love your comment, perfectly explained! Thank you, and wish you lots of happy moments with your QV, hopefully I'm gonna join soon the club! All the best!
Hi Pete, the steering angle has been mentioned by others. I used full winters on mine and the noise went, my confidence increased and race mode was easily available. Then when the weather improved I put the PZero’s back on. I never thought it needed 4x4, being able to use the power through the rear is more fun (with the right tyres!) It is an incredible car and way more individual than any of its competitors. Keep up the great work 🥇
Do you own one ?
I’m surprised as a car journalist you haven’t come across Ackerman geometry before but there you go every days a school day hey 😁
He is NOT a car journalist! He is a Left wing covid supporter, a traitor!
Oh yes 👍
@@PetrolPed Champagne socialist!
Yo PP, MY 2020 allows opening of the exhaust flap in D mode. Check it out next time you drive one. Also, changing out tires is not really a hardship for a car at this price point. You really want one...I can tell!
Came from Mercedes to the Guilia. Very noticeable the geometry difference. Alfa says it's to increase grip when cornering?
I love the design of the Giulia. I think it's really by far the best looking sport sedan on the market.
I understand that you have to be very careful when it's wet or very cold with summer tyres. But the driving experience, steering, sound, are unique.
Brilliant masterpiece of Gulia.....Alfa Romeo back on song!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
The problem with the wheels skipping over the tarmac is called the Ackerman effect. Porsche and Maserati got the Same „Problem“ when it’s getting cold outside.
The Alfa is just a real dream car. Loved the video
Absolutely this! My Macan does it and my old C43 was so bad I had to get rid of it.
Yup my 997 does it. Not all the time though 🤷♂️
Absolutely love these videos where we see a bit of a week in the life of ped whilst living with a car. Great follow ups to the first drive videos.
I moved my Pirelli P Zero tyres into storage a long time ago Only use Goodyear F1 Eagle Super Sport for most months in the UK.
Great to see a review like this for the Giulia. I’ve got the Veloce and get the tyre noise too. It’s the only car I’ve ever had that does this and it’s good to know it’s normal, thankyou for showing this. Alfa ownership in the U.K. is not much fun when you need to go to the main dealer, but the car is good enough to put up with this. I can’t find a better alternative as a daily car. 👍
The 2021 models can access the exhaust notes, without being in Race mode, is my understanding. Please give those dogs a scratch from me and a hug, so cute.
I think the solution to your problems (except the ackerman) is the Giulia Veloce Q4... AWD and a much more manageable 280hp. I have one and is a marble. Great to go on the mountains on those cold wet days. Still faster than 95% of what you found on the normal roads. Only just not that track focused. And you can get it with full camel colored leather... You don't get the V6 sound but you don't get the MPG either.
Love it😍 Great review as always. Thank you
As many others have said, the "wheel skipping" on full lock is to do with the front wheel geometry. My 981 gen Cayman GTS does the same when cold. Gets better as the tires warm up. Had P-zeros on the Porsche.
All my porches do this. 996tt, 970 and 981.
Love the honesty of your reviews Peter, great work. 🎯📈💯🙌💯👍
Thanks 🙏🏻
Pete you need to read about ackerman angle effect on front wheels
Exactly
Yep. Had it on my Cayman. You get used to it but it's a nasty surprise the first time it happens to you.
My Mercedes does it, it's 100% the Ackerman effect.
@@stevecade857 Porsche are especially renowned for it.
That’s it. I’ve had many Alfas do this - my current Stelvio Milano does it. Usually much worse in reverse. The pay off is the wheels are as near to 90 degrees with the road.
Really looking forward to this vid. Thank you Pete.
Cheers Tony 👍
Again a wonderful car. Lovely in the black finish with this spec. Thanks for the video, love the honest review. Cheers
Love your videos Mr PP. keep up with the excellent work
Thanks. Will do 🙏🏻
Appreciate the honesty Pete. Refreshing as I notice less and less reviewers are. 👍🏽
I try hard to be balanced 👍
You and Joe A do good, balanced reviews, always appreciated.
Edit - That noise from the front end is common (in my experience) on cars with a stiff front axle. I forget what it’s called, but there is name for it and it’s where the tyres don’t have the give when they’re cold to cope with the lateral load the axle is putting through them. My Panamera did exactly the same thing, and it’s normal. It’s partly why the Alfa has such great steering feel.
Yep, you are spot on. I have since learned it’s called the Akerman effect 👍
Great review Pete, I had Michelin Pilot 4S and they were awesome even in temps below zero, even drove in snow on them in my 640D MSport Gran Coupe!! Alfa is just a little too small for me, and M760li is definite next one for me, which I reckon will be a bit of fun!!
Peter you have never given a review that wasn`t honest, its not in your nature, its how your parents brought you up, and it is what we expect and receive every time. The thumping noise when it appears may be something to do with the power steering trying to cope with the cold but I can`t say for sure, so thank you once again for showing us your work and the car, so see you on the next one.
Another great car review/ insight into your working life Pete.
It brought a lot of memories back to me as I spent a large part of my career travelling around the U.K.
I purchased a slightly used demo. Giulia Quadrifoglio back in 2017, I didn't keep it for long but your observations are spot on. Yes it's a brilliant car with excellent steering, power, great soundtrack and it has character, which is refreshing in this day and age. All that said though, it never won my heart for some reason, some cars do and some just don't.
It does need the race sound in dynamic, I couldn't be bothered modding it to achieve that, come on Alfa!! And yes, the Pirelli Corsas, in my opinion, are awful! I didn't like them in the summer never mind the winter. You should try driving the Giulia QV in the snow, hilarious! Mine too skipped around car parks etc. I did check the tyre pressure a couple of days after picking it up and all the tyres where over inflated by nearly 1bar, great dealership! That lessened the skipping. I soon changed the tyres to Michelin Pilot Supersports (MB designated ones to get the correct size) they transformed the car hugely for the better. Then I sold it!
I may take your advice and revisit Alfa and try out. Stelvio QV... Good work as ever Pete ......
When a car looks that beautiful I could probably forgive it anything. Stunning piece of art work.
My Wife has a white veloce and honestly, it’s pushing it’s luck. As is the dealership...
It really is. I’ve had no issues with mine
@@H2TEN Glad your experience is better than ours. I hope when the dealership bring it back things improve.
I had a Veloce. Beautiful, best handling car ever. Non stop issues, handed back to the lease company early. Would I have another? In a heartbeat, just for the driving experience, they might get one more chance.
Great real world video - awesome balanced views as always - aggressive steering geometry/setup creates the grinding - trade off for that amazing steering however normally goes away as it heats up! Stay safe ✌🏻😎
Cheers Richard 👍
Got to finish the video and fantastic review Sir Pete! Loved the honesty. The steering thing would definitely turn me off from the car though!
Cheers Bud 👍
Another enjoyable Video Review of one my favourite Sports Saloons. Looks very nice 👍 In Black and the Infotainment System Is now much slicker
One of the most honest and genuine car reviewers on UA-cam which is a dying breed.
Thanks bud 👍
Another great, and honest, review Pete 👍 I recall @stefabtv having trouble getting one off his drive in the wet as well! I hope Alfa make those, in my mind, simple changes which would really make it with considering!
Pete...wearing my old man hat, my new Ford Cortina 2000e in 1975 came with a set of Pirelli Cinturato’s and they were awful..hard as iron, no grip and heavy as lead to park. There were so bad that my mother pleaded with me to sell the car not least because it made me “....look like an old man”, However I had to carry my Dad’s wheelchair so the replacement was a 1977 Cortina 2.0 Ghia which came wearing Michelin’s and it was a transformation! So..45 years later, nothing changes!!! I’m glad you liked the Alfa...I e just never been brave enough to buy one! Stay safe..😃😃😃😃😃Richard
I have owned 3 of the Guilia Quadrifoglio had no problems with any of the three. I have now a Stelvio Quadrifoglio which is absolutely stonking.
Awesome vlog pete,as always the front end noise on that car,the juliet,is called chamber casting,the tyres angle to the road is out of since,basically their fighting against each other ,hey stay safe,have a great weekend,
Reminds me of the Alfa 164 from the 1980s which was, reportedly, like a large hot hatch to drive. I normally prefer small hatchbacks over large high end saloons but this Alfa is a thing of beauty and sounds fantastic.
I wouldn’t regard the characteristics you referred to as “flaws”.
More so a consequence of tyre choice, ambient temperature and sketchy road surface conditions when combined with a car which can be provoked to oversteer.
Rear wheel drive is where it’s at for me, you can’t beat the feel in my opinion. Get one change the tyres and enjoy.
Been waiting for this one
just chill with your right foot and no more backend issues. also, Michelin SS FTW
I'm a journeyman welder. I love how you call standing in front of a camera work.😂
Different kind of work for sure. Less physical but very long hours. Do you do 16 hours days sometimes ? 😬
And I love your honesty as well.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Had the same issues with the ackerman steering on my diesel Giulia but it did get a lot better with new front tyres fitted. The steering is the same, super sharp and very direct making it a joy to drive down back roads. The handling and long distance ride comfort are exceptionally good, just a shame even the "basic" petrol model is so expensive now. A used Quadrifoglio will surely be a fantastic buy knowing Alfa's typical depreciation.
The car is absolutely beautiful
True, but you can't see the beautiful body lines in the black color.
Over 6 years of watching reviews about this car and the stelvio.. If i had to pic one.. It would be the giulia.. Over all the q4 from the stelvio for All year driving.. The giulia is the sportier and more authentic sportscar.. The true one.. Even its not so safe for winter.. Its the peak point of drivers car..! Thanks for your honest review!
And now Alfa have changed the front suspension to reduce wheel skipping at low speeds and completely ruined the steering! 2021 car has lost it's edge compared to the 2017 one I have just replaced. What were they thinking!? Wheel skip was not a problem once the P Zero Corsa Tyres were removed from the old one.
What year did they change the geometry?
@@NeuKrofta if in UK it's after the 69 Plate, maybe with some exceptions due to late registration. Basically if it is a 2020 spec facelift car with the different rear lights etc it has the later setup. All confirmed by the Alfa parts cat.
Enjoyed the video. A friend has an ARGQ! You summed it up really well.
Thanks 🙏🏻
The red one with the bucket seats is my favourite.
Good video Pete - our X3 also suffers from the Ackerman effect especially on cold days - something to do with the distance that the outer part of tyre travels vs the inner part of the tyre when on full lock and when you have wide tyres I believe
Nice review. Concerning the issue on the steering, well it is simply the way they set the Akermann angle (maybe the priority at Alfa was not the smoothness in low speed parking maneuvers). Concerning the exhaust valves, you are right: coding is super simple :-) Honestly these is a small issues...the Quadrifoglio is a fantastic car: every time I take she it puts a smile on my face (even if it is cold and the road is wet)
...by the way, on cold and wet roads, when you go full steering, several other cars (e.g. 997 turbo and Boxster Spyder) do the same noise (this happens for a combination of the Akermann angle and the LSD engaging on the rear axle).
The strange and unfair thing is that people are only complaining for the Giulia....
I know exactly what you mean re front wheels skipping out or tearing up the tarmac during slow speed turns, my wife’s Macan s does the same and it’s very annoying. My rr sport is silky smooth and no issues so I guess it’s nothing to do with 4 wheel drive. Great content keep up the good work. 👍🏻
Lovely car. An honest opinion is the best thing that you can give to us. We are all different and unless we get the chance to drive one a petrol heads view is the best we have.
Can’t believe that you were literally a couple of miles away from me when you were sat at the M60/M67 junction - you’d have been welcome to have popped in for a brew!🤔☕️😂 - Brilliant vlog as ever bud - I’m a huge fan of the Giulia QV - stunning car!😈♥️
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Thanks Pete - I always enjoy your reviews. A good follow-up I think would be to ask the UK Alfa press office about fitting high performance all season tires on this very car for a cold weather comparison drive. This can be an excellent daily driver in all but deep snow conditions. The P Zero Corsas aren’t even supposed to be stored below 0C let alone driven on so while you can blame the OEM spec tire, it’s not really a flaw in the car itself. Anyway, a companion review would be really informative - and you might get to drive it for another week 😉.
Great idea. I’ll ask 👍
Yes Ackerman angle. They all do it. I recently acquired a Veloce and it does the same (most noticeable reversing). Great cars. I considered the QF but 500 bhp just too much in a road car to fully enjoy. Haven’t regretted it for a minute. The steering on Giulia’s really is something quite special. So direct.
The Guilia is a stunning looking car but it hardly has any competition in its class for looks. Alfa are my favourite brand in this field, owned a few over the years and despite people warning me of the trouble I was going to have it was always them left eating their words, never had a moments problem with any of them and this all despite putting huge mileage on some of them in short periods of time. The steering judder you experienced used to happen in my 159 and it also happens from time to time in my AM Vantage and I always put it down to Ackerman angles as I reasearched it before. Its odd the first time you experience it and almost feels as though the tyres are skipping.
Great review and honest review Pete, there isn't a car that doesn't have its foibles.
Very true 👍
Great review .Loved the Giulia when Chris Harris drove it on Top Gear back in 2017 .Stunning looks and Stunnig performance i want one ive told Santa so fingers crossed. Any minor faults you had were answered by the Peddlers so problems solved. Excellent feedback drive safe .
Thanks Geoff 👍
Great Video! That Giulia is probably one of my favorite cars.
Correction: former owner of one of these cars. I had a 17 model. You say that exhaust valves only open in race. That was true for pre 20 models but in 20 models you can open the valves in dynamic via the infotainment system - car settings.
I'll be buying the 20 model soon for sure. Best road car I have driven!
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I'm north of Milan and on my Giulia 2.0 200HP I have 4 winter tyres now. I can't imagine how could it be with a QV up there now! Yes, DEFINITIVELY put winter tyres!
That "wheel thing" is due to geometry of front suspension. To have that sharp steering and adherence you have to deal with that. No problem if you ask me. There is even an official bulletin that explain why it happens.
So I went ahead and bought my dream car: a Giulia Quadrifoglio. Had exactly the same issue: the skidding and not-so-grippy corsa’s in the wet. Put some Sottozero tyres on it for the winter (yes, 500 RW bhp needs winter tyres) and voilà, car transformed! No more skidding front wheels and more accessible performance.
It just puts a smile on my face... what a machine! 🥰
Awesome 👏
Such reviews makes you see car from different angle, thanks.
Thanks for that 👍
Great video Peter, really enjoyed it, interesting about the front wheel turning, we have a Gullia Veloce that we have owned for about three years, we have the same thing happening but it's very rare, and having the std 280hp four cylinder engine we have no problem with traction, the only time we had a real concern was when our dealer put dodgey tyres on the rear instead of the Bridgestone's it came with, needless to say we got the proper tyres fitted after a fashion and the car was back to normal. We love our Guilia, and as Jeremy Clarkson said when he drove a QV, to be a proper Alfa it has to have something wrong with it!!
Evening Looking forward to this one Pete.
Love the Giulia, such beautiful cars.
Pete, you gave this a decent review. That being said, the solution to 90% of the issues you kept harping about was a simple installation of winter tires for the car in cold climates. I live in California with my 2019 Giulia Veloce, and I have summer P Zero's on it. I have no issues. I never get the problem with the steering noises either, but it rarely drops below 40F here even at night in winter. So, those Corsa Pirelli's are not for U.K. conditions in winter. Or Minnesota in the USA either! ha ha Otherwise, these Giulia models are terrific cars with so many things that make them special. I call it my Jr. Ferrari Sedan! ha ha Cheers friend.
Great car, great spec. Thanks Pete.
Great honest video and wouldn't expect any less 😃
As you say lovely looking car Alfa at best, Iron the few things out you have a A+ car by the sounds.
Good to have something of a driver's car other from Germany, this a proper Italian Stalion as they say 😉
Thanks Nick 👍
I love these things but I'm not sure I'd ever own one - I really wish they made a shooting brake version of this. Good to here SeenThroughGlass mention you on his podcast yesterday!
Why not?
I need to check that out 👍
Sweet ride Pete and agree that the awd version would be epic....but then the stelvio may lose some sales but really all Alfa sales at the end of the day !! Right tires would transform the car for sure !! 👍🏻🇨🇦
Love the vids Ped!
When turning at a tight angle, the outside wheel has to travel further than the other. In cold weather with less grip the tyre may drag creating noise and vibration.
It happens on my FK8 as the diff doesn’t slip because the friction is less between the road and tyre.
My E46 rear diff growls as they do but when there’s ice or slip it doesn’t.
Widen the arc of the turn and you’ll lose the annoyance. Or out of a tight spot shunt one time more keeping grip and preventing stress. It’s also a good method on slippy gradients.
Thanks for this 👍
I recognise all them roads in Manchester. Cracking video Peter as well.
Just swap the Pirellis out for some MPS4Ss, or some Goodyear F1s. It's not hard. Also helps to alleviate the impact of the Ackerman geometry at slow speed and full lock. You can also get a very cheap mod to manually control the exhaust valves.
Awesome 👏
Evening Pedlars hope all is well with everyone. Peter great vid as usual, many thanks for the discount code for Legacy Legends just ordered 4 mugs as Christmas presents. But another in this week’s draw would not go amiss 🤞
Great to hear 👍
Loving the video again Ped, hope you enjoyed Goodwood
I put Michelin Alpins on mine every winter and that makes it perfect. Fabulous car. Now had mine 3 years and absolutely no plans to
Change it. Longest car I’ve ever kept.
Good plan 👍
Stunning car! Great review!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Hi Pete,
Great vid as always! I'd tend to agree re the tyres, I will try Michelins when I wear out the P Zero Corsa's on mine. The 'wheel skip' is a function of the ackerman angle aspect of the steering geometry, and is in fact only one wheel scrubbing (the outer one). Agreed it feels slightly strange at first but is due to a reasonably extreme geometry setup and is a slightly annoying side effect of other advantageous steering characteristics (predominantly when not anywhere near full lock), particularly the very positive turn-in etc. The Alfa is not the only car with tyre scrub characteristics on full lock, my F-Pace did it as well for example.
Keep up the great work, you look really busy at the moment!
All the best
Gregg
Thanks Gregg. We’ve got a long wait until the next Autosolo 😢
Your experience sums up how life is with my M4C. These are not winter cars, but make up for it in summer! Had the same tyre problem with a GLC350 I used to have....tyre issue I believe
Great review, I’m 2 months into my my20 car, love the improved interior, I need the AHM exhaust mod and different tyres but aside from that love it. Alfa have just left us with a little work to do here to truly finish off the car and the mods should help a little with residuals. The wheel skip happens most mornings only on full lock then never notice it. There are things alfa could have done to make it better but we would just find other dislikes as with any car. The corsas should really come with a health warning though...
LOL. They certainly are a bit sketchy 😂
Actually back to tyres... yawn... hear me out. So I probably need to drive 1 with different tyres but is the grip that much improved on our damp/wet roads given this is a high performance rwd car, surely this is just a fact of life with cars of this configuration. I ran e90+e92 for a few years, my memory says they were more planted in all weather conditions on Michelins but different power delivery & not as fast. Maybe if I just drive better & according to conditions and my ability (I’m not a racing driver) I should be ok on the corsas... let’s see, I’m too cheap to change them now on a new car anyway.
Nice video, Ped. Well done 👍
Great review.
I’ve had a Quadrifoglio for 2 years on the P Zero Corsa, now I’m on Pilot 4S and the car is transformed. No more tyre skip turning out of the drive every morning or white knuckled driving on a cold wet day waiting for the rear end to step out. Best upgrade ever, except maybe for the Forza exhaust bypass for Race sound in every mode!
I can imagine 👌
It does look stunning in it's Black livery. Nicely pitched review, cheers Ped. The beanie looks well snuggly.:)
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Lovely and informative video! As well as my GT4 which you saw, I have a Misano blue Alfa Romeo Giulia - but the Veloce ti version, unfortunately not the Quadrofoglio
They are ace 👍
You were in the greatest place on earth! My home town! Haha great video as always, can acknowledge it's a fantastic car but wouldn't have one, but then again cant say I like any current saloon car on sale, apart from the taycan.
Taycan coming soon 😜👍
Hmmmm, alignment out? Once the tyres are warm, are they more flexible to absorb?
Hi Pete. The tyre scrubbing is fairly common in cold weather on certain tyres. I experience it with Michelin’s on my GT3 and spent a bit of time last year in an AMG GTR where it was disconcertingly frequent!! I wouldn’t let it deter you from the Guilia but it clearly needs some different rubber in the UK!
Lived in Europe for 15 years. There is a simple solution. Winter tyres. What you are talking about is not an issue when you have summer and winter rubber.
Yep 👍
In Canada, the difference between winter and summer tyres is... death!
I do like to see behind scenes stuff. That gear change pop is lovely in the car. The Jaguar was a pain just trying to move in snow slush today, only went 0:25 mile up to the top of our drove to get the new windscreen fitted. Was defo a Shogie Bear day here near Spalding. Having a rear wheel drive powerful car is nice, but, power is no good without control lol. Cool video, as always.
Cheers my friend 👍
Hi Peter! Another great video 😊
Thanks 🙏🏻
Awesome video again!
Thanks 🙏🏻
That wheel skip is the tyres. My Brera did the same but I haven’t noticed it now it’s on Michelin Pilot 4S
If I remember correctly, when you turn the steering wheel the outside road wheel turns into the corner more than the inside wheel (or possibly vice versa). I suspect when the tyres are warm this difference in tracking is accommodated by the tyres, however, when you are driving on unsuitable tyres on a cold slippery road surface, the inside tyre will skip laterally, causing the vibration you heard.
If that were my car, I would take it in to have the tracking checked and, if it was within tolerance, I wouldn't worry about it. In any case, suitable tyres would be a benefit.
I am surprised that you haven’t experienced the full lock tyre slip before. My Porsche does this in very wet or cold conditions. Interestingly having replaced the original Pirelli with Michelin tyres the affect is all but eradicated. Keep up the great work.
That skipping on full lock is normal even my wife’s Fiat 500😂
It doesn’t do the tire skippy thing with a fresh pair of Arroyo Grand Sport A-S tires on the front. They work much better in general as well.
Looking forward to this
Awesome car! Competition red the only colour that does those gorgeous lines justice. 😁
This is timely Ped. I’m on the hunt for my perfect Giulia QF. Lots out there but want one that’s a bit different. Wish me luck..
Take a look at Sytner BMW Coventry - my old one's up for sale there (Misano Blue). It was well looked after.
@@sfletcher83 cheers and will do. Did you trade it in for an M3/4?
Buy one you won’t be disappointed
@@paulcoles3265 no, I work in an industry that's been hit hard by Covid, so I downsized to a new m135i to reduce my outgoings / risk.
@@sfletcher83 I’m sorry to hear that you’ve been affected. Most have TBH. The car swap might be a downsize in terms of the size of car but not in any other way. I think that’s the car that the new Golf GTI should have been. Amazing chassis and playful in a way that the GTI stopped being years ago. What’s not to love?...
I wonder if that tyre skipping is the Giulia suspension set up? I remember reading how Alfa spent a long time with the suspension making sure when you turn the wheel the tyre contact patch remains intact. Apparently normal Cars put camber onto the wheels as you turn which obviously in the corners reduces grip. I don’t know for sure but maybe?