MILGRAM / Haruka - Weakness [The First Trial Music Video]

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  • @summertimecookie4232
    @summertimecookie4232 3 роки тому +5143

    Ok, so here is my theory on Haruka. It´s very different from everything I´ve read about him so far but I still think it might be worth giving a thought since I think this theory would possibly fit Haruka very well.
    Haruka is very childlike
    It´s obvious that Haruka is very childlike, and it seems like he has problems growing up. For example, the Japanese text is written in very basic to nearly no Kanji, which is often associated with children, also no other prisoner has the lyrics being written this way, so it is a thing special to Haruka. We also see other aspects that hint on him being childish. In undercover, he is seen in a room full of toys, we see children’s drawings everywhere, he seemingly still uses a plushie when sleeping, he has problems understanding some idioms/terms (shown in the voice drama), he is scared of fireworks, the most expensive thing he ever bought was cotton candy, he doesn´t see a difference between the feelings like and love, he loves attention and being taken care of (I wanted to be a pitied and loved weakling), he sometimes acts inappropriate in situations (laughing) and so on.
    The child in the video shows two different Harukas
    Haruka stated that he has no siblings, so the boy in the video must be himself. I concluded that there are two different child-Harukas, one of those two is only seen shortly though. We see the “normal” Haruka floating in the dark, looking at himself holding hands with a little girl. I assume that this shows Harukas past self, probably from when he was an actual child and now, he just thinks back to it.
    However, most of the time when we see the child, it resembles the childlike personality of the grown up Haruka. This means, that most of the time we see the child, it actually is the “normal” Haruka but drawn as a child to match his personality.
    The girl and the women
    I came to the conclusion that the grown-up women is not his mother, but actually the girl past Haruka hold hands with. They seem to be old childhood friends and she is probably very dear to Haruka, maybe even one of his only friends (since he has problems communication at times, I wouldn´t be surprised if it was hard for him to make new friends). However, unlike Haruka, she grew up normally and so did probably everyone else around him. When growing up, it often happens for childhood friends to grow apart but since Haruka wasn´t capable of growing up in the first place, the two of them started drifting apart even more, which Haruka didn´t understand/like (Tell me, why are you drifting away from me? 0:20). The girl probably realized that Haruka was different from normal kids, and I believe that she might be the one saying things like: “You´re crazy” because that´s what he was in her eyes.
    Harukas story (video chronologically)
    In the beginning, the first thing we see is Haruka sitting in front of the mirror. It then showed the happy child-Haruka and the sad-looking Haruka sitting on the same spot, probably to show that this child is his true nature.
    At 0:27, Haruka says: “The word I tried to say was “You´re unfair”. And those words thought how pitiful I am. This shows not only how Haruka has problems expressing himself, but also how he thinks of himself as truly pitiful. At the same time, we see him happily walking through the city with his friend, holding hands with each other.
    At 0:32 he says “Why is it breaking? Please don´t change.” He probably talks about the girl and their relationship, since he doesn´t understand why she has changed so much growing up and why their friendship is breaking.
    At 0:42, we see Haruka pushing his self to the ground, showing how he understands the problem being his childishness and hating it for existing.
    “If only I could do what anyone else could do” (0:43) is probably him referring to all those other kids he grew up with and how they grew up and learned new things but he didn´t. At the same time, we see Haruka thinking back at his childhood, holding his friends’ hand again.
    At 1:16, we see something very interesting. It seems like Haruka killed the girl, but he probably didn´t since there is no blood on his hands or on the girl. Of course, there are ways of killing someone without blood (choking for example) but I still don´t think he killed her (yet). I have several ideas what might have happened there, he could have tried to kill her, or it was just his mind trying to kill his memory of the girl she used to be as a child in order to get over her growing up. He then wakes up so he might have been just dreaming.
    At 1:26, we see a lot of eyes probably judging him and maybe making fun of him for being the way he is (it might be possible that he got bullied in school since he is so different from the other kids)
    1:37 “I am always repeating yesterday” probably hinting on him being like a child, since children also tend to repeat days as they have no duties in life yet and just play all day.
    We then see him following the dog into the forest. The dog might actually belong to the girl, so he tries to find the dog in order to make his friend happy and get closer to her again. However, at 2:05 he kills the dog. He might have done it to erase an “enemy” since the dog probably got a lot of attention from the girl. It´s possible he thought of the dog as some sort of rival and was hoping the girl would spend more time with him again if the dog didn´t exist.
    2:06: “I´ve become a victim” It´s possible that he refers to mobbing
    At 2:28 He shows his hands without blood on them so I really can´t say what is going on here. Might be that the blood was just on the stone but him waking up again confused me. Did he just dream about him killing the dog or did he remember it in his dream and woke up because of it?
    2:42 “Even if I keep trying it, it´s broken right away” He tries his best to let this friendship keep going but it just won´t work.
    2:47 “The things that aren´t here and the unneeded things. Is it still living somewhere?” I can´t entirely say what he means by this, but we see how the women disappears, probably leaving him/ ending the friendship, which makes Haruka cry.
    3:05: He starts choking himself. He probably concluded that his childish side is the reason his life is the way it is and that it is the reason for his friend to leave him. He gets so angry at him self that he, in the end, at 3:26 killed himself, figuratively, not literally of course. I think he tried “killing himself” by suppressing his childish personality as good as he could. Then, finally, after he killed himself, people notice him, and he laughs, before the video ends.
    I assume he tried to live suppressing his inner child, but it must have been really hard for him. While he was killing himself, he started to cry, which he didn´t do before. He also cries at the end when he gets attention. It might be out of joy, but I personally think he is not.
    I think that after a while living with his true nature suppressed like that, he might have gotten crazy at some point and killed someone, possibly the friend.
    This was rather long and I hope it was easy enough to understand. I´d like to know what you think about this theory though. Do you think it makes sense or not?

  • @mitchki
    @mitchki 3 роки тому +2317

    Second Edit: Haha, of course second trial's song has a similar, one-kanji-switch play on words. Ha ha ha
    EDIT: I won't change what mistake I made below, but I want to add this at the top. The original Japanese phrase is 弱肉強食 (jaku NIKU kyou shoku), which is more brutal than *my* mistaken thinking that it was 弱者共食. The REAL phrase means what I explained, but instead of "weak ones" (弱者)it's supposed to be "weak (one's) meat," (弱肉). This way, the phrase implies that "the weak" are only worthy as MEAT for "the strong." The rest of the explanation below is still valid, and the point of the play on words (in original Japanese) still stands. I just falsely reported what the regular saying is supposed to be. Sorry! I hope I cleared it up. Thank you to @чепушила намба ван below for pointing that out. I really can't believe I missed that...
    The song's title in Japanese is 弱者共食 (jaku sha kyou shoku) which is typically translated as "The strong survive," but it's more literally "The strong eat, the weak do not." It's a very "Darwinian" kind of saying. But! Deco27 and everyone has played a trick on us; the ACTUAL phrase is 弱者強食, which is pronounced the exact same but the third character means STRENGTH (強) instead of TOGETHER/PUBLIC (共). So, where the original phrase means "The strong survive (by eating the weak)," this song's title's swap of that one word changes it to mean more like "The weak are eaten by the public/society."
    So, that's Haruka.
    It's really too bad that there's no simple or quick way to translate that title into English. "Weakness" is probably the best they could have done, honestly. If I had been in that writer's room I would have probably voted for "Weakness" as well. Still, I hope someone found this helpful/interesting!

    • @Alphaistic
      @Alphaistic 3 роки тому +30

      Good points! I think it's interesting that you interpreted 共 as "the public/society", I was thinking the 共 in the phrase more strongly correlates to "together/each other" --> "the weak eat each other to survive". This would paint Haruka, who "wants to be seen as a pitied and loved weakling", in a less flattering light. He might not be the victim of society that he wants to be seen as, but rather an unintentional contributor or participant to said society (subtle typo, the typical phrase for "the strong eat the weak" is 弱肉強食, and song title is 弱肉共食).

    • @Alphaistic
      @Alphaistic 3 роки тому +4

      reaally interesting is also that on the track listing for Haruka's single is a cover of DECO*27's old vocaloid song "Two breaths walking", I have so many questions

    • @shihiragi
      @shihiragi 3 роки тому +1

      you're breathtaking, that makes a lot of sense, thank you!

    • @RealityCheck1993
      @RealityCheck1993 3 роки тому +1

      That's literally the most interesting thing I've read all day! Thank you for this!!

    • @userchepushila
      @userchepushila 2 роки тому +1

      But the second kanji is changed too, isn't it? It's 弱肉, not 弱者

  • @user-mm3zd5yv5z
    @user-mm3zd5yv5z 3 роки тому +128

    ボイスドラマ聞いてて思ったけど、発達障害っぽいところとかエスから暴力を受けても笑いだしたりするところとか…
    ハルカを「良心を持った人間」だと思って考察してると辻褄が合わないことが多い。
    実はミルグラム中でも屈指の狂気性を秘めていて、思考回路も自分達とはかなり外れてるんじゃないかと仮説を立てると辻褄が合うとこが出てくる。
    人からの愛情に過剰に反応するあたり、それ欲しさに「自分より愛されているものを全て殺せばまた自分へ愛を向けてもらえるかも…?」→「それを確かめてみたい!」って考えてもおかしくない。「狂ってる!」→「あっ褒められてる?ありがとうがんばるよ!」って解釈するあたりも頭おかしいよね。

  • @ZeiahYT
    @ZeiahYT 3 роки тому +4311

    As someone who has a learning disability and lives in a toxic household I relate a lot to Haruka’s pain I honestly think he needs therapy more than jail hope he lives on till the end I have my forgiveness and sympathy for him very much
    Edit: This comment is 2 years old…why do all of you still care so much about what people think over a fictional character😭

    • @chubean318
      @chubean318 3 роки тому +237

      You’re so valid, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise

    • @ZeiahYT
      @ZeiahYT 3 роки тому +50

      @@chubean318 awww thanks🥺

    • @skyline3158
      @skyline3158 3 роки тому +151

      He got voted innocent this time and from what I understand he might be the next few times too! It depends on what other people think

    • @yumeyumedi
      @yumeyumedi 3 роки тому +179

      i think mostly everyone in the milgram needs therapy
      and i hope you're going good in your house

    • @yukitenshi5678
      @yukitenshi5678 3 роки тому +38

      Yes!He's definitely innocent!! I also relate to this mv so much ..hope other people forgive him as well..

  • @qwee1143
    @qwee1143 Рік тому +252

    1:18でうさぎのぬいぐるみがあるけど、うさぎは「愛されたい」みたいな感情の象徴的な存在だよね…つまりハルカは…

  • @なまえ名字-d8s
    @なまえ名字-d8s 4 роки тому +677

    何度も繰り返し見てて思ったことだけど、ハルカは「夢の中で暴力性を出す」ことでストレスの発散をしていたのかも?
    殺すことは悪いことだ、自分は悪いことをしているという自覚はあるけど、夢の中の話だからスッキリするだけで終われる
    でも本当に殺人をしてしまったときは、分かっていながらも止められなかったのかな…だから、最後の場面だけ泣いてる?
    いつもなら夢が覚めて自分の狂行がなかったことになるのに、光がさしていく場面では夢が覚めなくて、ここでハルカも薄々気づいていた「現実だ」という事実に気づいて、自分のどうしようもなさに笑うしかなかったのかな、と…

    • @みつ缶-t6v
      @みつ缶-t6v 4 роки тому +21

      なまえ名字
      ずっと女の子を殺したのか疑問だったんですが、これを読んですごくしっくり来ました!!

    • @フル-p2x
      @フル-p2x 4 дні тому +1

      これ第二審でわかったけど、本当は沢山の生き物を殺し繰り返していたんだよね。それと出てきた女の子はお母さんが望んでいた子なんだな。

  • @まさたつ-k6h
    @まさたつ-k6h 4 роки тому +544

    既出かもしれませんが、囚人みんなの名字に植物の漢字が含まれてるのは何か意味があるのかな?
    ハルカ:櫻 ユノ:樫 フータ:梶 ムウ:楠
    シドウ:桐 マヒル:椎 カズイ:椋
    アマネ:桃 ミコト:榧 コトコ:杠
                 って感じで

    • @イタ-q9h
      @イタ-q9h 3 роки тому +19

      花言葉とか…?

    • @my-cg2on
      @my-cg2on 3 роки тому +93

      別のコメ欄で書いてるのも有ったんでそれも参考に書いていきます。
      ハルカ:櫻→桜
          フランスの桜の花言葉は
          『私を忘れないで』
      ユノ :樫(かし)
         『勇気』『力』『長寿』
         「貸し」に掛けてお金を貸すほ
         どお金がたまる
         という意味も持つ
      フータ:梶(かじ)
         『過去の思い出』
         (別コメ欄から引用)
      ムウ :楠(くす/くすのき)
         『芳香』
         名前の由来の一つとして
         楠は春の終わりごろに小さくて
         目立たない薄黄色の花を咲かせ
         る そして秋になると黒い実を
         たくさんつける
      シドウ:桐(きり)
          『高尚』
          名前の由来の一つとして
          何度切っても成長するから
          別名
          「女帝の木」
          「狐の手袋の木」
          「王女の木」など
      マヒル:椎(しい)
         椎→『長寿』『勇気』『力』
         (椎の実)ドングリ
         『永遠の愛』『もてなし』
         『愛は永遠に』『勇敢』
      カズイ:椋(むく)
         『子供らしさ』
         名前の由来の一つとして
         老木になると樹木の皮が
         剥げることから
         「剥く(むく)の木」とも言う
      アマネ:桃(もも)
         『チャーミング』『気立ての良
          さ』
         『私はあなたの虜(とりこ)』など
      ミコト:榧(かや)
         『努力』
      コトコ:楪(ゆずりは)
         『若返り』『世代交代』
         『譲渡』

    • @芝生の日記
      @芝生の日記 3 роки тому +31

      もしかしたら木辺の方かもです。
      きへん=ぎへん=偽欺
      自らの意図と能力を秘匿するために相手に誤った情報資料を計画的与える作戦行動なのだそうです
      どこかに嘘が隠れているって考えてみても面白いかもですね(誰

  • @ひの-f9c
    @ひの-f9c 4 роки тому +2450

    ハルカくんの誕生花の花言葉、「私を無視しないで」「愛は死より強し」なんだけど考察班頑張ってください……

    • @ago_risu108
      @ago_risu108 2 роки тому +137

      よく頑張った、あとはあの方たちに任せよう

    • @ミルクトーン
      @ミルクトーン 2 роки тому +53

      @ れい。
      いや誰やねーん

    • @ago_risu108
      @ago_risu108 2 роки тому +33

      @@ミルクトーン 考察班

    • @ミルクトーン
      @ミルクトーン 2 роки тому +49

      @ れい。
      なるほど、君がどこ目線なんやっていうツッコミのつもりやってんけど、私の説明力がなかったわすまん

    • @yuu__623
      @yuu__623 2 роки тому +62

      コメ欄平和すぎて好き

  • @こむこむぎ-t1m
    @こむこむぎ-t1m 3 роки тому +402

    この曲にあまり関係ないんだけど、障害をもってる人ってもってない人と違う五感の感じ方があるんだって(嗅覚や味覚、音の聞こえ方など)。
    ハルカくんが発達障害もってるとしたら、このMVでカラフルな(というか毒々しい)色合いの場面が多かったり、所々に写真が使われていたりするのは「ハルカくんから見えている世界」なのかなって。
    もう出ていたら申し訳ないです

  • @MU-wl6qs
    @MU-wl6qs Рік тому +1793

    字幕表示させると簡単な漢字(小学生のときに習うやつ?)しか使われてないのぞわってした

    • @さくらくら-p6e
      @さくらくら-p6e Рік тому +386

      ところどころに難しめの漢字("悲鳴" "下降" など)が表示されてる所もあるから、動画に出てくる幼少期のハルカと現在のハルカの境界線が曖昧になってるのかな…
      簡単な漢字しか使われてないとこは幼少期から漠然と思ってたこと…みたいな……

    • @Kuminoka
      @Kuminoka Рік тому +84

      That's actually really interesting that the subtitles were all written in simple kanji

    • @D0OF101
      @D0OF101 Рік тому +50

      @@さくらくら-p6e
      普通に小学生で習うと思うけども……その考えもいい!

    • @gun3881
      @gun3881 11 місяців тому +44

      It's because Haruka has a limited language, Haruka was never taught as a child

    • @user-nemnemdayo
      @user-nemnemdayo 9 місяців тому +40

      こどく とか 間ちがっていた とか
      そういうのが沢山あるし
      わざわざ平仮名になっているのは
      何か意味がありそうですね。

  • @rachie
    @rachie 4 роки тому +3342

    i wonder... if haruka is the embodiment of "mentally ill person did a murder as a cry for help."
    he keeps referring to himself as a victim and knows he's broken (as opposed to the environment around him?) ("the right future chose the wrong me" among other things) but wishes he wasn't. he wants to feel normal and human and maybe that's why he did his first murder, but it ended up not really helping satiate the void in him. as he grew up he couldn't resist his impulse to kill when he got frustrated i suppose? (my thinking is a little muddy here and would appreciate help in comments lol). idk when his mom called him crazy and he responded with "lol thanks for the praise" it made me think he just wanted someone to "notice him" before it was too late (i.e. before he did it again).
    either way idk what i'll be voting him as... as much as i want to think he's not guilty, mental illness is your responsibility even if it isn't your fault. thoughts??

    • @0xaca563
      @0xaca563 4 роки тому +396

      I think this alright since he is technically a 'disappointment' and he knows that himself through out the whole music video. A victim of lack of love due to his own insecurities. A lot of people wrote theories about the video. For me, I think he's guilty, he ended up killing and hurting others due to his frustration of not being loved.
      From his whole situation, Haruka probably lacked love due to a disability (since he did dropped out of school, which is kinda presented from the lyrics in Japanese due to the context usage). Haruka's MV is definitely full of child-like doodles that kind of represent fireworks, however each firework kinda drawing seem like a symbol for something. They were blue when it was with Haruka, but they were all colorful with the two kids. Another thing to point out is that one of the drawings looked like a dahlia. A dahlia has different meanings but I like to focus on the one color blue, which is Haruka's main theme color. A blue dahlia does not exist so it means something unattainable. Just like his want for affection does not exist.

    • @lucydh3758
      @lucydh3758 4 роки тому +24

      Splendiferachie i fully agree with you

    • @lucydh3758
      @lucydh3758 4 роки тому +24

      0x aca i don’t think so becouse every one have killed Ore Support it the only different is that he probable killd a human and now the inportent part it was not his fault ist was the fault of his mother and Society this is Why he is inocent to me

    • @0xaca563
      @0xaca563 4 роки тому +132

      @@lucydh3758 I do understand what you mean. However, even though if he's not guilty to you, it does not excuse that Haruka committed a crime (which usually gives you a sentence for life for what he has done.) His mother and father are partly to blame for his state since his 'disability' is really presented in the MV and you could see from the official Twitter that most of his word choices are rather similar to a grade-schooler's

    • @molo1848
      @molo1848 4 роки тому

      @@mizumi_kaori dont ask on her comments

  • @四葉-e3e
    @四葉-e3e 4 роки тому +511

    ミルグラムって確か映像にも色々仕掛け(?)が仕組まれとるんよね……?
    でもCDだと映像見れんぞ??
    てことは、もしやUA-camでフルで聞ける…………?:(´◦ω◦`):

    • @たろう-b9i
      @たろう-b9i 4 роки тому +24

      四葉
      CDはもう一曲入ってますよ〜!
      あとはボイスドラマもありました!

  • @user-vf1qe9ev5n
    @user-vf1qe9ev5n 4 роки тому +937

    このプロジェクトで怖いのは、こんな考察がはかどる曲を出しておいて、二審目でまた違う曲を出してくるところ
    この曲が全てじゃ無いんだもんねハルカ…

  • @mcchicken9007
    @mcchicken9007 3 роки тому +2133

    i'll try to keep this short: haruka's father likely left when his learning disability came to light with age, and due to this, his mother began abusing/neglecting him. it's not all that uncommon for neurodivergent kids to get abandoned by a parent, or even by both- be it at birth, or later in their life. for those who arent abandoned entirely, neglect, verbal abuse, or physical abuse is not unlikely. such things can destroy people, especially kids. i forgive you, haruka, i forgive you with the entirety of my heart.

    • @JohnsonBonson
      @JohnsonBonson 3 роки тому +16

      いあgれえ

    • @TheColdPatrol
      @TheColdPatrol 2 роки тому

      he's most likely killed a dog and a little child- both complete innoccent bystanders that had nothing to do with his parents possible neglect- forgiving him for a crime as horrible as taking a childs life so easily just cus hes autistic seems ridiculous... while i understand hes not all there he seems to understand right and wrong and knows he did something horrible. I wish fans would think more about how the victim feels in this and how they deserve justice, and not just get swept up in their pity for the killers.

    • @luka3444
      @luka3444 2 роки тому +19

      No father figure ☠️ /j

    • @clownpiecejunkoandhecatia7240
      @clownpiecejunkoandhecatia7240 2 роки тому +121

      The questionnare for Haruka says that his family consists of him and *both* parents. The more optimistic theory is that he is around but neglects Haruka. The more pessimistic theory is that Haruka still considers him part of the family even though he left.

    • @kappamanchild6173
      @kappamanchild6173 2 роки тому +14

      Yippie! He think his actions of killing things are right! Yippie!

  • @shinreilba
    @shinreilba 3 роки тому +595

    this song is about killing the self. he wants to go back and kill his own younger self out of guilt. when you look back and watch it, the point is that he lives dissociated from everyone except his past self. only when he (metaphorically) kills his past self does he finally realize he doesn't recognize himself, and he feels relief out of it. there never was a younger brother, it's all him. for stuff like the dog, you'll notice the dog escaped, and was bleeding. he, when younger, found his dog wounded and dying and decided to kill him out of mercy in a desperate and brutal but ultimately compassionate death. that's why he cries and is happy at the end, because he wishes someone would kill him as a kid so he would not suffer his entire life through pain and guilt. he wants to suffer a mercy kill. and he does it to himself because he believes no-one else would. no-one else understands the concept of a mercy kill the way he does

  • @スザンヌ田中
    @スザンヌ田中 3 роки тому +500

    自分自身、ADHDと自閉症っていう発達障がいなんですがこの曲共感しまくりなんですよね……。
    症状が悪化するとこういう被害妄想に酷く苛まれるので実際にこのキャラにモデルの人がいるんじゃないかと思うくらい。

  • @ノイズキャンセリング
    @ノイズキャンセリング Рік тому +199

    2審の曲を聞いてからだと、なにかころころした後に見える光はお母さんが恐る恐る開けた扉だったのかもって思って鳥肌

  • @ロージー-l5u
    @ロージー-l5u 4 роки тому +271

    どの罪を犯したか、兄弟なのか否か、は今おいておいて、とにかく動画内に出てくる色や物について考えます
    まず、多用されている「色」
    ハルカのイメージカラーはとにかく青。
    今回の動画では香水?の液体、青いスポットライト、青い血液、青くなるシルエット。
    3:25
    見る限り青い血液が出ているのはハルカと同じ容姿だった幼い彼と犬だったもの?ぐちゃぐちゃで分かりにくいですが
    「青の血」とは西洋の歴史の中でも貴族を指していたと言われています。静脈が透き通るほど白い肌は高貴だとされていたのです。
    現代ではそれほど白いとなると「病的」な人を表現していると考えられるでしょう。
    2:35
    青いシルエットがアップになり、左目からは涙が出ています。
    左目からの涙は「悲しい時に出るもの」
    目は最も感情が現れるイメージですが、瞬きもせず、怖いほど無表情なので もしかすると悲しんでいないように装っている可能性もあります。
    次に頻出するのが「緑の目」
    先ほどハルカはとにかく青色だと述べたばかりですが、瞳のハイライト(下部)は暗い緑色だったりします。
    そのほかにも動画内に「目玉」のような柄や子供が描いたような落書きはたくさん出てきますが
    母親と連れ添っているシーンや何かを石で叩き潰した残骸から、ちょくちょくたくさんの瞳がハルカをじろじろと見ています。
    実は緑色の瞳は古代から嫉妬の象徴とされていて、
    たとえばシェイクスピアの『オセロ』にて
    「嫉妬とは緑色の目をした怪物であり、人の心を食い物にして愚弄する」というセリフが出てきます。
    しかし 心象風景に大量に現れるのは、ハルカが誰かに嫉妬していたという以外に
    他人から嫉妬されている、ひがまれているという認識もあったのではないかと考えています。
    次に、他の方も指摘されている
    黄色いバラについてですが、これは花言葉である「ジェラシー」、嫉妬と考えて間違いないと思います。
    本数や葉の数までは確認していないものの
    0:11 〜で出てくる葉はおそらく黄色いバラのもの。しかし、まだ花は咲いていません。
    咲く場面は大体 被害が出る前、その後です。
    赤い色は愛や憎しみを表現する際に用いられたりしますが
    この色とセットになって出てくるのは月です。
    0:28〜1:32
    までは灰色ですが
    1:44〜
    辺りから青い月へと変貌します。
    見るだけで不気味になりますが、この月こそが唯一ハルカの、ハルカに似た誰かを殺めてしまう罪の、一部始終を見ていたと言えるでしょう。
    青い月=ブルームーン
    同名の薔薇が存在します。
    青い薔薇は品種改良でも再現ができないと思われていました。
    なので花言葉は
    「夢は叶わない」「消して有り得ない」「不可能」
    当時スターリングシルバーという青薔薇を作ろうとしていたのですが、病気になりやすかったり育てるのが難しいので、この品種を元に新たに作られたのがブルームーン。
    美しい紫がかった薔薇です。こちらはかなり強いようです。
    ちなみに2004年頃から本当に青い薔薇が作られるようになりました。
    ここから転じて、今は青い薔薇の花言葉は
    「神の祝福」「夢叶う」「不可能なことを成し遂げる」
    と言われているようです。
    2:08
    しかしここで真っ赤に染め上がります。ここらへんは得意な方に考察してもろて…
    ツギハギの犬を追いかけて森へ迷うシーン
    あの場ではとにかく現実味がない色味と風景が広がっています。
    このMVがもしハルカの心象風景を映し出しているならば、心理学で用いられるバウムテストも当てはまるのではないかと考えて(ここらへんはググっていただくとありがたい)
    とりあえず調べた範囲で分かることを書き出します。
    木の枝を描かない=引きこもり型、変身願望、今の自分に不満がある
    葉がない=孤独、仲間がいないと考えている
    山=親に依存している、自立心が芽生えていない
    と、ここまでがおおよそ私が気になって調べた物事です。
    参考文献なんてものはなく、ググって出しただけの代物なので
    お門違いだったり勘違いしていたりもたくさんあるかと思いますが
    考察する上でなんとなく目を通していただけると嬉しいです!
    あと気になるものはツギハギの犬の存在感だったり壁に落書きされた目が実ってる木のようなものとか。
    歌詞の
    くるってるってほめてくれた
    ありがとうがんばるよ
    どれくらい続けたらぼくはヒトになれる?
    らへんですね
    共犯者か、教唆した者がいるのか……?
    考察コメント眺めながら赦すか赦さないか決めようと思います!

  • @zemidamebris8845
    @zemidamebris8845 4 роки тому +663

    I'm a bit late to the party but I wanted to add my thoughts of interpreting this song anyway o/
    I’d like to note that I’ll use the voice drama as reference, but the information drawn from there are all from a third party, since I couldn’t find a translation of the drama.
    Also it's a very long text, so be aware of this ;;;
    it's like,,, 1,7k words jfdkslsw
    Based off comments and other theories I read in the comments section I'm pretty sure that the young boy in the video is probably not his brother but indeed his younger self.
    My main reasoning is because we actually don't see anyone's actual face in the MV, except for Haruka himself.
    So if it really were his brother, his face would also be hidden, in my opinion.
    I mean even the dog was portrayed in this abstract way.
    I think it's pretty safe to say that Haruka has been abused by his mother, it's especially evident in the second verse, where he says "Its fine, it's my fault. It's enough, I'm a disappointment" and also his behavior in the voice drama points to him getting at the very least verbally abused by her. This also likely lead to Haruka getting a warped perception of love, of how he probably thinks that getting attention being loved.
    Cue to him basically begging for attention in the chorus, as well in the 2nd pre-chorus, "You praised me by saying "you're crazy." Thank you, I'll do my best". If saying you're crazy is smth positive in his mind, then I wonder what the fuck Haruka is getting told by his mother normally. Like this is some prime fucked up shit
    Now to his suspiciously absent father.
    I think it's very likely that he left both him and his mother, most likely due to a divorce.
    Now looking in context to Haruka getting blamed for everything, we can conclude that it must've been about Haruka to some extent.
    What it exactly was about is hard to tell and there's no hard evidence, but I think that, as noted in another comment, Haruka might have some kind of learning disability.
    Everything in the MV points to Haruka in a more childish light. Its abstraction with the doodles, Haruka waking up at 1:17 with the plush rabbit serves to make him more “childish” in a sense plus the low usage of kanji serve as further proof.
    In addition he has a hard time understanding Es in the Voice Drama, describes himself as dumb etc.
    Considering all this we can then theorize that his father and mother had a fight because of this disability, ending in the father leaving, thus the mother blames Haruka for everything.
    Then the only person that’s left is this little girl, that seems to have a significant impact on Haruka’s life, despite the short screen time she actually has in the MV.
    With this we can theorize that maybe, while he thinks of her very highly, that the opposite wasn’t actually the case. This doesn’t mean that she secretly hated him or anything, in fact she probably liked him, since we can see her actually laugh, contrasting the mother, whose expression is always hidden.
    But maybe to her, he was just another playmate, while Haruka, affection starved he is, sees this in an entirely different light.
    The whole scene followed up by the chorus going “Please notice me”can definitely be interpreted as the girl just viewing Haruka as just another playmate.
    EIther way, whatever the relationship ended up being, we can safely assume that he probably killed her, but is in heavy denial about it. (1:16)
    Now that this is all done with, let’s talk about Haruka himself!
    First let’s examine something that caught many people's eyes:
    The doodle in the bridge (1:28)
    Here we can see Haruka and his mother on the right while on the left is some weird monster.
    But what’s below them?
    There’s this weird crudely drawn sinister person?
    Actually we see this figure earlier in the song at 0:39
    It’s behind the older/present Haruka, and maybe this is how he sees himself, or to be me exact, his current self, since the younger him is still drawn happily.
    Then what’s up with the monster on the left?
    Well this is very unclear, but my guess would be his father, as based of the statements made prior, he left his family, making him a bad person in Haruka’s eyes
    Now having all figures in the doodle assigned, we can actually conclude that those drawings then must’ve been drawn by the current Haruka, why else would there be the crudely self portrait there.
    Interestingly enough this also means he sees his younger self as a separate person or at least regards his past self as different from his current one.
    Then to another matter that might’ve not been noticed by everyone, the use of yellow flowers, presumably roses.
    Yellow roses are usually used as a sign of jealousy and in the context of the MV it does fit really well.
    The first instance of the flowers showing up is at 1:04, after he sees his past self and the girl running hand in hand.
    The second one is at 1:42 is when he follows the dog into the woods.
    An interesting note is that the yellow roses were always shown in context with the victims he murdered. So with this information, it’s safe to say that he killed the girl and the dog out of jealousy. Presumably because they were both loved or got attention.
    On another note it’s also interesting to see the lack of reaction of others by the girl’s death ,so I think he prolly didn’t get caught for that murder, while the murder of the dog was seen/noticed by the mother, who then in response left him/cut off ties with him.
    And lastly:
    Haruka’s last victim in the MV.
    Since I’ve already established that in my theory that the younger person isn’t his brother but Haruka himself, it’s most likely meant to be a metaphorical death… or is it?
    I personally think that there’s a good chance that he committed suicide for several reasons.
    First, doesn’t his necklace… kinda look like a noose? The color and how closely it hugs his neck, it makes me really think of a noose. Of course you can now brush it of as coincidence, but the whole motiv of drowning, the verse “I was falling, I was falling down” and the strangling of his younger self at the end combined makes me really think that Haruka tried to commit suicide by hanging himself.
    Maybe it was after he remembers the murders he did, as he always woke up at the end of a chorus following a murder, gasping, accompanied by the text “Yes, it was me.”
    Other motives that could have motivate his suicide is that he really doesn’t regard himself highly in any way. The way he crudely presents himself in his doodles and the line “How many more times do I have to do this so I can become human” are evidence for his low opinion on himself. Then combined with his mother leaving him after the dog’s murder, I think it’s more than likely he could’ve committed suicide.
    Of course he survives, or else he couldn’t be here, but in the end, the younger self “corpse” is still there, so despite surviving, a part of him died.
    Maybe this is in reference to his innocence, as him smiling with tears combined w the phrase “Yes, it was me” looks like a realization or at least acceptance that yes, he killed the girl and dog, thus the young him who was so happy died.
    So to summarize,
    Haruka was born with a learning/development disability that caused distress to the family, leading to the father presumably divorcing his mother and leaving.
    His mother now alone proceeds to blame Haruka and verbally abuses him regularly, to a point where Haruka keeps apologizing at everything, while stuttering a lot. Now he confuses attention with love and craves for it, whether negative or positive. It’s also worth to note that Haruka never really blamed his mother
    Then at some point in his young life he met a girl with who gave him some positive attention and the closest he felt to love, making him fall in love with her.
    But unfortunately he wasn’t nearly as important to her as she was to him and jealousy built up, resulting to Haruka presumably killing her. But Haruka in heavy denial doesn’t realize this really.
    Life continues and Haruka gets jealous of their presumably family dog, probably because they got more attention/loved, and proceeds to kill that dog as well.
    Still, he doesn’t register said dog’s death as well, but unlike the girl’s death, the mother notices and calls him crazy and abandons him fully as well.
    Now left truly left alone he commits suicide out of desperation, survives and now possibly remembering the murders he committed.
    Whether Haruka is now guilty or not is tricky, since he did (most likely) kill at least one human person and a dog.
    But when you regard his likely disability as well as life of abuse, it’s hard to fully blame him.
    So how guilty is really?
    Regardless of verdict, I just want my boy to go to therapy already T_T
    Other neat stuff i like:
    The necklace he constantly wears is most likely from his mother and I really like how close it is to his neck, feels really restraining and just shows so well how much control she really has over him.
    The animation of the chorus, especially the laughing part is just so painful and desperate
    hug him T_T
    His hair bang covering one of his eye is a really neat way to show that he doesn’t have a clear grasp of his reality and how fcking warped his perception is. Even if it is a bit on the nose.
    The part where he runs with the girls, the background doodles kinda look like fireworks. I wonder if he was playing with her on a summer festival or similar. Either way looks really cool
    The song is really a banger

    • @_meldrop_
      @_meldrop_ 3 роки тому +18

      Everyone is talking about how its about him murdering his mom, but I think its more he murdered a childhood sweetheart who said they didnt like him anymore, and he just didnt want to grow up. The little boy is just him looking back at a younger version of himself. Many serial killers keep tokens of murders, thats what the necklace is.

    • @nanamanami3024
      @nanamanami3024 3 роки тому

      @Michelle La1 Spotify

    • @noelle7028
      @noelle7028 3 роки тому +7

      I don't know how old you are but your teacher would be proud of you for this accurate and detailed analysis. The way you explained it even I could understand xD Sadly im pretty late to this project too but that doesn't matter

    • @eveasterville7252
      @eveasterville7252 3 роки тому +4

      I came so late but thanks for the explanation! I was having trouble figuring this one out.

    • @miyuki3650
      @miyuki3650 3 роки тому +3

      I definitely agree with this, but i think that he didnt murder the dog but instead he didnt bring back the dog. As you mentioned he was jealous, then as seen in 1:45 he stopped and looked back as if he was planning to go back to his mom without the dog. And while walking back he looked at his hands and probably thought that by not bringing the dog back safely, he felt as if the dog died because of him. Now it switched to his current self, we can see that he is hitting assumingly the dog which i think represents his anger towards the dog because in the previous lines of the song it said that the way his mom compliments him is by saying "you're crazy" which happened after he went back to his mom and now he couldnt forget about it until he got older. I think this is the result of not bringing his dog back.
      Im sorry if this was hard to understand english is not my first language

  • @たなか-o9h
    @たなか-o9h Рік тому +61

    私の考察なのですが、もしかしたらハルカのお母さんは女の子が欲しかったのではないでしょうか?名前からの考察なのですが。でもそしたら何故少年は許されたという話なのですが女の子を連れていたのであの子はお母さんに娘のように思われてたのかも…?

    • @Toketa_a
      @Toketa_a 2 місяці тому +1

      ウワ〜〜〜ありそう……
      母親の髪色も黒だし……ウワ……

    • @sui-000.
      @sui-000. Місяць тому

      女の子はともかく、お母さんが女の子欲しかったのは確定してますね…第二審ボイスドラマで言ってましたし

  • @べにづるさん
    @べにづるさん 4 роки тому +174

    概要欄見たら歌詞が大体平仮名で、比較的簡単な字は漢字だったんだけど義務教育はろくに受けてないのかな…
    年齢はっきり覚えてないらしいけど、学校にずっと行ってなければそうなってもおかしくないかも
    追記
    ミルグラムの説明でうさg(((ジャッカロープが、心象が歌と映像になるって言ってて歌詞の表記にもそれが反映されるのかな、って思いました

  • @saltykung
    @saltykung 2 роки тому +483

    p.o.v: you just watched his 2nd trial mv and come back here to check something

  • @baburu_777
    @baburu_777 4 роки тому +855

    櫻井 遥の「櫻」を調べたら、「首飾り」って単語が出てきて、櫻井くん見たら、首飾りがついてて鳥肌たった。

    • @Mizukiri_00
      @Mizukiri_00 3 роки тому +86

      そうなると家族の証はネックレスだけにすぎないってことなのかな......

    • @める-z9c
      @める-z9c 2 роки тому +16

      @米粉パン これ聞いてハルカくんの幼少期か、弟の首をしめてるの鳥肌たった…

  • @maguirbo
    @maguirbo 9 місяців тому +72

    rewatching this it's really painful how haruka in his head is aware of his problem but because irl he lacks vocabulary and education he can't solve it himself so he relies on others... but it seems like he chosed a bad influence rn :(

  • @結海-d3r
    @結海-d3r 3 роки тому +521

    memeを聞いてミルグラムを知って、この弱肉共食を聞いてハルカの沼に見事に落ちました。全員の楽曲・ドラパ聞いてミルグラムの沼にも落ちました。ミルグラム界隈の皆さん、これからよろしくお願いします。

    • @かな爺
      @かな爺 3 роки тому +13

      いらっしゃい☺️👐

    • @つき-m1g
      @つき-m1g 2 роки тому +10

      ハルカ沼いらっしゃい🤗

    • @scarcehere3715
      @scarcehere3715 Рік тому

      TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @Lulu-iv7fr
    @Lulu-iv7fr 3 роки тому +842

    I just realized that haruka and mikoto are polar opposites with their votes Haruka having most forgiven votes while Mikoto has the most guilty votes

    • @ZeiahYT
      @ZeiahYT 3 роки тому +21

      Yeah interesting....

    • @elleiguess1124
      @elleiguess1124 3 роки тому +120

      Maybe it's because we can tell why Haruka killed them and kinda relate to be the last place for the parents so we can easy forgive him
      But we don't know why Mikoto killed all the people. We just know he pretends to be innocent (He doesn't have DID I'm sure) which makes us not forgive him

    • @Lulu-iv7fr
      @Lulu-iv7fr 3 роки тому +43

      Yeah I think so too but isn't this kinda a huge coincidence for
      1 being polar opposites with their votes
      And
      2 both were in a competition to get to 1 Mil views first
      I am not implying anything its just feels a bit weird

    • @meowwoem3031
      @meowwoem3031 3 роки тому +19

      Hey I just found milgram today and I keep seeing people talking about votes. Could you pls explain what they are pls

    • @Lulu-iv7fr
      @Lulu-iv7fr 3 роки тому +3

      @@meowwoem3031 basically Milgram is an interactive social project in which we analyze the mvs and try to find out the prisoners crimes and motives through the songs and lyrics extracted from their memories. We as the viewers can then vote on whether we forgive or not forgive the prisoners crimes.
      I recommend watching one of the very first video on the channel which has a rabbit with horns in the thumbnail and watching the older mvs in order so that you can get the gist of it

  • @みつ缶-t6v
    @みつ缶-t6v 4 роки тому +1037

    尋問でハルカが『家族は?』って質問に、
    【お父さんとお母さんとぼくです】
    って回答してるけど、MVにお父さんが出てきてない事とか、【お父さんをがっかりさせた】って別の尋問に答えてる所から察するに、
    『自分が一番幸せだった時の家族構成』
    なのかなって……。
    ハルカに障がいがある事がわかって、しばらくは頑張って夫婦で育ててたけど、成長するにつれてどんどん顕著になる障がいのことで父親と母親が対立するようになって、
    父親は家を出て行く
    → お母さんは『お前のせいでお父さんが出ていった』とハルカの世話をしなくなる
    → 弟ばかり構うように……
    って流れがあったのかなって……。

  • @fishfish6807
    @fishfish6807 3 роки тому +373

    HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA

  • @y.u.g.o7091
    @y.u.g.o7091 4 роки тому +71

    みんな弟説推してる?感じがするけど僕は過去のハルカくんかなぁって思った
    理由?みたいなのはお母さんも小さい女の子も顔が塗りつぶされてる?感じがするのにハルカくんと男の子だけなんだよね顔が塗りつぶされてないの。まぁ犬もなんだけど人間でいうと顔が見えるのはハルカくんと小さい男の子だけだから小さい男の子は過去のハルカくんなんじゃないかなって思った。

  • @mai-vj3zk
    @mai-vj3zk 2 роки тому +359

    切なくて苦しくて、とても好きな曲だけど これが2審でどうなるか楽しみ。1:56 ここの掠れ声めちゃくちゃ好きすぎて、、堀江さん天才か?となっている。真似出来ん…

    • @yoiyo1
      @yoiyo1 2 роки тому +19

      1:55?

  • @Hina_PienCat
    @Hina_PienCat 4 роки тому +110

    水は殺害方法とかではなく、自分の涙に溺れている(精神が参っている)状態ということですかね...?
    くらい水の中にいるのは必ず今のハルカで、ラスサビで明るい光の中にいるのは幼少期のハルカで...またがっているときには両方に光が差し込んでいたから、過去の自分を認めてハッピーエンド!!と信じたい...

  • @ぷりん-m9z6e
    @ぷりん-m9z6e 3 роки тому +44

    発達障がい説、凄い納得できた…凄いな…。
    動画の中で今の?ハルカくんには青い光(スポットライト?)が当たってないんだよね。他の子には当たってるのに。
    そして血だと思われる液体に目がたくさん描かれてるんだけど、血を出す(誰かを傷つける、殺す)ことで周りから注目されて「気づいて」くれるって事なのかなぁと。
    動画の中の花とかも関係あるのかな
    あまり関係ないかもだけど最後らへん裏でセリフとしてしっかり言ってる(?)んだね

    • @huwarari9926
      @huwarari9926 2 роки тому

      これ字幕ボタン押したら歌詞がひらがなばっかなんですよ
      ここまで作りこまれてるの鳥肌すぎ

    • @Kamenrider40
      @Kamenrider40 2 роки тому

      @@huwarari9926 漢字は全部小学生漢字ですよ

  • @last3614
    @last3614 4 роки тому +897

    マジで1回聞いた時から好きだったんだよね

  • @who069
    @who069 Рік тому +57

    Okay, heres what I picked up from the music video, Haruka may have a verbal learning disability. This would explain some of his behaviors in the video. The way Haruka views the world seems to be very messy and confusing, hinting that he may have trouble understanding some concepts and questions the why’s and what’s around him. It seems to me Haruku has the mindset and intelligence of someone much younger than he is. I think he killed out of frustration and the need for attention, not being able to differentiate negative attention from positive, he acts out because he has the stability of s young child and wants to be seen. This is just how I saw it though

  • @にゃんこぷ
    @にゃんこぷ 3 роки тому +12

    既出だったらごめん。
    これ今になって思ったんだけど、子供のハルカくんは、『ハルカくんの理想の行動(?)』をしてるんじゃないかな
    女の人(お母さん?)と手を繋いで歩いたり、女の子と走ったり、犬と女の人と遊んだり。。
    でもそれが出来ないってわかってるからハルカくんは子供のハルカくん(理想)を殺したのかなって。
    なんで理想が幸せそうなのかは、ハルカくんのお父さんが出てこないことからお母さん1人で育てられて、大変だからあんまり愛情を注がれてこなかったからなのかなって。
    ライトアップされてるのは愛を注いでくれるであろう対象かな(?)
    確か5つあったはずだから
    お母さん、お父さん、女の子、犬、自分
    ってなってるのかも(自分は無理やりです)
    5人の中で唯一完全に自分を愛せるのは自分だから、。
    その自分(理想)さえも殺してしまったハルカくんは…
    って感じかな;;
    薄っぺらい考察でごめん…

  • @みつ缶-t6v
    @みつ缶-t6v 4 роки тому +1642

    【長文注意】『弱肉共食』公開前ですが、できる範囲で考察してみました。
    (※第一審にも同じものを投稿しています)
    【001 ハルカ】『弱肉共食』
    まず初めに、このタイトルは『弱肉強食』と『共食い』をかけているのでは?と考え、『弱肉強食』と『共食い』の意味から調べてみました。
    すると『弱肉強食』には、私たちが知っている意味の他に、
    【弱きものが強きものによって滅される】
    『共食い』には、
    【互いに利益を求めて、互いに不利益を得る】
    という意味がありました。
    つまり、『弱肉共食』とは、
    【弱きもの同士が、互いに利益を求めて、互いに不利益を得た】
    という意味なのではないかと考えられます。
    しかし、そうすると『弱きもの』は誰なのか……そして、『利益』とは何なのか……。
    まずは『弱きもの』から考えていきます。
    『弱肉共食』はハルカの曲であることに加えて、『愛される弱者になりたかった』という歌詞があることからも、『ハルカ=弱きもの』なのは間違いないと思われます。
    しかし、『弱肉共食』の解釈が正しいとするならば『弱きもの』は少なくとももう一人必要です。
    そこで、『アンダーカバー』のMVに映された、ハルカの過去の回想シーンに注目してみました。
    『アンダーカバー』で描かれたハルカの過去回想は、おもちゃの沢山ある部屋のベッドに腰掛けている様子でした。
    それについて、『アンダーカバー』のコメント欄では、『病室なのでは?』などの考察が多く見られた様に思えます。
    私も、初めはこの考察と同意見でした。というのもハルカが履いているズボンが、入院着やパジャマを彷彿とさせる質素なものだった事に加えて、『馬鹿でごめんなさい』などの自己否定的な言葉を口にしていることから、精神疾患によって病院に入院していたのではないかと考えていたからです。
    しかし、一部疑問を感じていた点がありました。
    それは、部屋に置かれている積み木、そしてうさぎのぬいぐるみと、ハルカがつけているネックレスです。
    もし仮に、あの部屋が精神病棟だった場合、自傷行為や自〇防止のため積み木やぬいぐるみを置くことはかなりのご法度です。
    (積み木で職員を攻撃したり、うさぎの耳などで首を締めるかもしれないため、基本的に危険物になりうるものは徹底的に排除されます)
    ネックレスも同様の理由から、精神病棟に入院していた場合、身につけている可能性は低いのではないかと思われます。
    (もちろん、患者さんの状態によって多少の違いはあるので絶対ではありませんが……)
    これはあくまで可能性ですが……。
    私は勝手に、この部屋をハルカのものであると決めつけていました。
    しかし、実は『別の誰かの部屋である』という可能性もあるのでは?
    そしてその場合、恐らく持ち主はもう一人の『弱きもの』でしょう。
    では、『弱きもの』に当てはまる存在、かつ積み木やクレヨンで遊びそうな……部屋の持ち主は誰か。
    ……ひょっとすると、ハルカには『弟』がいたのではないでしょうか?
    (ベットシーツの色などから『妹』でなく『弟』である可能性が高いと思われます)
    そう考えると『弱肉共食』における『利益』とは恐らく……
    『親の愛』……であったと考えられます。
    積み木やクレヨンで遊ぶ年齢の子供は、恐らく『弱きもの(=弱者)』と呼べる存在ですし、『親の愛(=利益)』を求めるのはあたり前です。
    そして、ハルカは『親の愛(=利益)』を(返して?)欲しかったのだとすると、『弱肉共食』の訳との辻褄が合います。
    残念ながら、現状『弟』の存在を示す物的証拠は見つかりませんでした。
    ですので、ここから先はあくまで状況証拠に基づいた仮説になります。
    ハルカは、俗に言う『搾取子』だったのではないでしょうか?
    『搾取子』とは、自分の親から金銭的や労力的に搾取される子供のことを指します。
    そして、搾取子に兄弟がいる場合、兄弟間で、『弟にだけおもちゃを買い与える』『兄のため以外にお金を使わない』など、扱いに不当な差をつけられるケースが多々ありますが、ハルカもその一人だったのではないでしょうか。
    そう考えた場合、
    〇おもちゃのたくさんある部屋に対して質素なズボンと靴であること
    〇『アンダーカバー』の冒頭で【ひとりぼっち 愛をちょうだい】とハルカが歌っていること
    〇『馬鹿でごめんなさい』というハルカの発言
    〇ミルグラム公式サイトでの『生まれつき人を不幸にするのが得意』という発言
    の説明になると思われます。
    (弟にはおもちゃなどを買い与えられたが、ハルカには服すら惜しまれた、もしくは病気がちで疎まれた?)
    (家族の中に居場所がない=ひとりぼっち と表現した?)
    (あまり要領が良くなかったため親に疎まれていたのでは……?)
    (母親にとって望まない妊娠だった……もしくは出産と同時に母親が亡くなってしまい、父親から恨まれた?)
    もしこの仮定が正しいのだとすれば、『弱肉共食』の解釈……
    【互いに利益を求めた結果、互いに不利益を得る】
    とは、『ミルグラム』に収容されているのが全員『人〇し』であることも考えると、
    【親の愛が(返して?)欲しくて弟を〇した】
    ことなのではないでしょうか。
    そして、だからこそハルカは『弱肉共食』で
    【愛される弱者(弟)になりたかった】
    と歌っているのではないかと……。
    あくまで状況証拠を元にした仮説なので正しいかは分かりませんが、もしそうだとすればハルカの悲痛な願いがとても悲しいですね……‪(;-;)‬
    かなりの長文になってしまいましたがお付き合いありがとうございました🙌

    • @reft7708
      @reft7708 4 роки тому +80

      あの…もしかして天才ですか?

    • @__kill__me__
      @__kill__me__ 4 роки тому +38

      やばい、涙出てきた、やばい…()

    • @s_hikyu
      @s_hikyu 4 роки тому +33

      まだ全部聴いて無いのに....
      天才ですか?

    • @あいうえお-y7k4s
      @あいうえお-y7k4s 4 роки тому +33

      ( ゚д゚)ポカーン
      ………あの、脳みそ交換しませんか?

    • @user-kj1tn8bn8p
      @user-kj1tn8bn8p 4 роки тому +57

      す、すげぇ…
      あの、この考察を踏まえた上でなんですが、
      ハルカは幼い頃に両親が死んで、新しい親、もしくは親戚に引き取らて、最初は可愛がってもらえた。が、弟(妹)ができたことにより、義両親が弟(妹)ばかりを可愛がり、ハルカは愛して貰えなくなった。というのはどうでしょうか?

  • @Kきんぐ-r7i
    @Kきんぐ-r7i 4 роки тому +359

    全く関係ないかもだけど、
    歌詞に使われてる漢字、全部小学校の範囲までの漢字なんだよな。
    小学校以降で習う漢字ひらがなで書かれてる。
    アンダーカバーの歌詞いちよ見てみたんだけど、
    難しい字も漢字で書かれてて、、
    これがどういう意味なのかアホだから
    自分じゃわからないんだけどwww

    • @RR-nt3xm
      @RR-nt3xm 4 роки тому +11

      エス目線だからとかですかね?

    • @user-kg5sy9ig7l
      @user-kg5sy9ig7l 4 роки тому +34

      個人的な考察ですが、発達障害とかも有り得るかもしれません…

    • @i.t3822
      @i.t3822 4 роки тому +25

      り。 思いました。発達障害っぽいなと...
      他の人が当たり前にできることができない感じの歌詞があったので....

    • @user-kg5sy9ig7l
      @user-kg5sy9ig7l 4 роки тому +18

      ボイスドラマでもエスの言っていることがわからない、とか、僕は頭が悪いと言っているあたり、小学生レベルの知能しかないのかもですね

    • @okowa_haman
      @okowa_haman 4 роки тому +16

      児童虐待によりあまり学校に行かせて貰えなかった子どもなども学力が低下する傾向があります

  • @SW-2114
    @SW-2114 3 роки тому +306

    つまり100万回再生行けばエスが歌ってくれる…と。
    〈20210822〉
    あと4,008再生されれば100万…!
    〈同日〉
    100万達成!!!おめでとう!
    エスver.楽しみですね…!
    〈20220223〉
    不意ですよね。出ましたね…あぁ…良かった…(語彙力)
    ハルカよりは感情は無いんだけど曲の雰囲気の影響で合ってるんよね…良かった…

  • @m-はちこ
    @m-はちこ Рік тому +70

    この曲がほんとにふとした瞬間も無意識に頭で流れてる…
    DECO*27さんの曲はよく聞くけど熱狂ファンってわけじゃなかったのに、もう大ファンになりそう…
    多分堀江さんのハルカ似合った歌い方のせいもあって本当に頭から離れない。勝手にリピート再生される

  • @あを乃
    @あを乃 3 роки тому +12

    ぎせいをしていた、という言い方がどうにも引っかかります。
    犠牲という意味もあるかと思いますが、擬制ではないでしょうか。
    法律用語で、実際にそうでないのに法的にそうみなすことだそうです。
    既出でしたらすみません。

  • @リア-u3l8r
    @リア-u3l8r 4 роки тому +192

    神曲ありがとうございます…!!好きです()
    涙って、右目から流れるのが嬉し涙、左目から流れるのが悲し涙らしいです。
    2:34〜左目から
    2:49〜右目から
    3:17〜左目から
    3:38〜両目
    あと流れる量で感情の大きさも違ったと思います…(うろ覚え)
    なので最後の両目からのは、悲しさよりも「気づいて」貰えた嬉しさが勝ってるのかなと思いました
    皆さんの考察見ながらもう1回聞きます!!リピ確!

    • @えれさん2525
      @えれさん2525 Рік тому +6

      このコメ見て考えてみました
      2:34 3:17の所は気づいてくれない事に悲しみを感じている(最初は少しでも見てくれてたのにみたいな)、そのあとは夢から覚めたような描写があるので一度やってしまったことをずっと引きずっていてPTSDのような感じでフラッシュバックしていて、間違っていたのは僕だったんだと、自分を責め続けている。間違っている自分が嫌になって悲しくなって左から涙が流れている。
      2:49の右目からは、(妄想になるかも)いないものも、いらないものも、生きてるかもしれないとおもって、少し嬉しくなった(そう思わせられるようなことがあった?)。恐らくこの曲ではハルカ君は自分をいらないものと思っている。
      3:38の両目からは、認めてもらえた、気づいてもらえた、そして嬉しいが勝っている。でもやっぱり狂っている僕はまだいて、間違っていたのは僕だったとまだ、悲しいのかなと思いました!ハルカ君は人が思っている自分になりたい、自分のなりたい自分とかけ離れていても気づいてもらえるならと思ってたのかな…その自分になれるようにがんばった結果、愛されない弱者になってしまったのかな。そして愛される弱者になりたかったと言っているのかと思います。
      まだミルグラム新参者、考察初心者なので、全然違うと思いますが、この考察も見ていただけるとありがたいです。
      長文と2年前のコメントに失礼しました。

    • @リア-u3l8r
      @リア-u3l8r Рік тому +1

      @@えれさん2525
      ただ悲しい、嬉しい、だけではなくこんな経緯でそう感じたのではないかというえれさんの考察に頷きながら読ませていただきました…!過去の私では言語化出来ずにもやもやしていた部分が解消されたので本当にありがとうございます…!
      ミルグラム良いですよね👍

    • @えれさん2525
      @えれさん2525 Рік тому

      @@リア-u3l8r 読んでもらえて嬉しいです!頷きながら読んでもらえるなんて!!!
      ほんとミルグラムいいですよね~!

  • @しらゆき-b4v
    @しらゆき-b4v 4 роки тому +490

    3:30から歌の裏でセリフ入ってるの鳥肌たったし何回も聴いてしまうありがとうございます
    そして始まる前のチャット最高だったみんなありがとう
    愛される弱者になりたいのわかるなぁ

    • @huwarari9926
      @huwarari9926 2 роки тому +36

      苦しそうに言ってるのがホント辛い…ハルカくん報われて…

    • @らり太-n5m
      @らり太-n5m Рік тому +1

      ほんとに有罪にしたいですよね

  • @おおきなおもち
    @おおきなおもち 2 місяці тому +9

    ASDと自閉症スペクトラム患ってるけど共感しか出来なくて吐きそう

  • @leeshapon
    @leeshapon Рік тому +313

    i think this is my favourite song in all of milgram so far, the chorus is just so catchy and it’s such a banger

    • @leeshapon
      @leeshapon Рік тому +11

      shidou’s second song just came out, and while it is a banger, this still remains my favourite

    • @Pikyoh
      @Pikyoh Рік тому +3

      @@leeshapon same.. or after pain.. both are good, but itll be hard to be better than this.

    • @MegaBondagemon
      @MegaBondagemon 9 місяців тому +1

      Ahaha~

  • @justafillername8251
    @justafillername8251 3 роки тому +91

    I don't trust the Jackalope. I get the feeling that there's more to this then what we were given to go off of. Much like the real-life Milgram test, maybe the only way to truly make "the right choice" is to NOT vote, at all.
    I say this cause the only information we get is from the songs, which are only from the prisoner's biased point of view, and only gives us so much info to go off of, the app, and the jackalope, who suspiciously brushes our questions aside and just tells us to vote whether we think a prisoner is guilty of innocent. Personally, I wanna see what happens when NO ONE votes for a prisoner. Maybe we'll get more accurate and trustworthy info then if we vote for them being guilty or innocent, since the Jackalope did say that "the songs and treatment of the prisoners will change according to our decisions."

    • @letternclnovi7116
      @letternclnovi7116 3 роки тому +13

      Forgiving or not forgiving is also really out of the question because we are not the victims

    • @potetopancakes
      @potetopancakes 3 роки тому +18

      i would want to see that, but i feel like it'd be impossible to not have a *single* person vote on someone

  • @kreepermini7205
    @kreepermini7205 2 роки тому +273

    the artstile changed so damn much in 2 years

    • @Kaska_
      @Kaska_ Рік тому +45

      I liked the old one more...
      It was artsy and creative. I liked the more surreal looking symbols in most videos and the sketchy art style.

  • @ilairis
    @ilairis 3 роки тому +277

    Congratulations to 1 Million views for Haruka! The first ever prisoner song here in Milgram. Has it really been that long... I'm happy he finally reached 1M. Thanks to everyone who streamed his song to 1M for Haruka.

  • @gingerlover9
    @gingerlover9 3 роки тому +345

    The fact that Mikoto's mv has more likes than Haruka's,,,, scary

  • @uk______oO
    @uk______oO 2 роки тому +293

    小さい子は 弟 とも考えられるし 過去の自分 とも
    捉えられてこんなに深くまで考察することが出来るの最高です。

  • @_3048
    @_3048 3 роки тому +188

    第一審の8人分のMVを見た上で、一番感情的な部分で共感したのはハルカ君かな...
    理想とかこうありたいっていう私の考え方とは違うけれど、でも、共感してしまう。
    ミルグラムの囚人達みんな、私の心の中にある罪を具現化した存在なのでは...?
    私は実際に罪を犯したわけじゃないけど、心の中にはその罪の原因となった感情とか考えを多かれ少なかれ持ってる気がする。
    だから共感したんだと思う。

  • @nemu334
    @nemu334 4 роки тому +70

    Haruka - Weakness (Romanji Lyrics)
    Please let me know if there’s mistakes/errors!!☺️
    Dōshite hanarete ku no?
    Nē dōshite boku no seina no?
    Iou to shita kotoba ga `hikyōda ne' tte boku o warau
    Dōshite kowa rete ku no?
    Nē dōshite kawaranaide yo
    Iou to shite yametara `dameda ne' tte okoru kuse ni
    Dare demo dekiru koto boku ni mo dekitara na
    Chigatteta hazu no mirai wa fubyōdō ni koi o shita
    Himei o shite ita himei o shite ita
    Aisareru jakusha ni naritakatta
    Hitei o shite ita hitei o shite de ita
    Dōshitemo tashikamete mitakatta
    Ah-Hah-Hah boku ni kidzuite
    Ah-Hah-Hah dare ka kidzuite yo
    Ma chigatte ita no wa bokudatta
    Sō, bokudatta nda
    Ī yo boku no seida
    Mō ī yo hazuredakara
    Kinō o kurikaeshite akirame tte daijidakedo
    Ī yo yokunaikedo
    Mō ī yo omottenaikedo
    Shirou to shita tokoro de mata iya tte kao o surunara
    Kurutteru tte homete kureta
    Arigatō ganbaru yo
    Dorekurai tsudzuketara boku wa hito ni nareru?
    Gise i o shite ita gise i o shite ita
    Boku no ko doku wa nozoma rete ita nda
    Kakō o shite ita kakō o shite ita
    Sutāto ichi ga chigau mama hajimatta
    Ah-Hah-Hah boku ni kidzuite
    Ah-Hah-Hah dare ka kidzuite yo
    Ma chigatte ita no wa bokudatta
    Sō, bokudatta nda
    Hitotsu futatsu kasane tatte mata sugu kuzusa rete
    Inai mono iranai mono doko ka de iki teru no?
    Himei o shite ita himei o shite ita
    Aisareru jakusha ni naritakatta
    Hitei o shite ita hitei o shite de ita
    Dōshitemo tashikamete mitakatta
    Gise i o shite ita gise i o shite ita
    Boku no ko doku wa nozoma rete ita nda
    Kakō o shite ita kakō o shite ita
    Sutāto ichi ga chigau mama hajimatta
    Ah-Hah-Hah boku ni kidzuite
    Ah-Hah-Hah dare ka kidzuite yo
    Ma chigatte ita no wa bokudatta
    Sō, bokudatta nda
    Ah-Hah-Hah boku ni kidzuite
    Ah-Hah-Hah dare ka kidzuite yo
    Ma chigatte ita no wa bokudatta
    Sō, bokudatta nda

    • @starvale2933
      @starvale2933 4 роки тому +4

      youre a god for posting this thank you so much!!!!!!! im gonna sing the shit out of this

    • @nemu334
      @nemu334 4 роки тому +1

      Merri No problem!! I want people to sing this masterpiece!! 💙🌼

    • @monbub
      @monbub 4 роки тому +1

      thank you!!

    • @snowharu600
      @snowharu600 3 роки тому

      thanks

  • @Hina_PienCat
    @Hina_PienCat 4 роки тому +57

    ハルカくん、家から逃げた(?)イッヌと女の子が悪いと決めつけて殺めた説...?(それのせいで愛されなかった?)
    殺めた時は自分が悪いなんて思ってなくて、大きくなってからヒトゴロシがどれだけの重罪か気づき「間違ってたのは僕だった」って言ってる...?
    全然考察は出来なかったけど...
    過去の過ちには反省してそうな気がした🤔
    神曲、神MV、神声優さんでとっっても鳥肌が経ちました...

  • @もこもこもこ-h2f
    @もこもこもこ-h2f 2 роки тому +16

    第二審のMVからまた戻ってきた民なんですが、ずっと不思議に思ってたぐちゃぐちゃに描かれた絵達は発達障害の表れだったのでしょうか…(今更すぎる気づき)
    [くるってるってほめてくれた]の部分は第二審のMVでハッキリと破壊行動によって自分を見てくれない親に見てほしい、という感情だと分かりゾワァってしました。弟に続き母までも殺してしまったハルカですが母のペンダントを付けているということはかなりの罪悪感があったのかなぁと1人勝手に思いました。勢いでの行動だったんだろうな…
    赦したのが正解だったのかは分かりません。ただ少しでも救いがあれば良いなと思います。
    考察班頑張れ‼‼❗

  • @-rito-583
    @-rito-583 3 роки тому +64

    この曲の最後のところで歌ってる声と
    重なるように同じ言葉のセリフがあるところで
    ハルカくんの気づいて欲しいって
    気持ちがめっちゃ伝わってきた…
    『そう、ぼくだった』のところが
    めっちゃゾクってきた…

  • @user-wjpn68jnp55pgmjgm
    @user-wjpn68jnp55pgmjgm Рік тому +10

    まだ第二審を見てないから確定出来ないけど何となく知的な遅れ、または発達障害を思わせる感じがしたなぁ
    特に印象的だったのは彼の身体や幼少期の体にカラフルな色が使われてること
    これを見て思ったのは「パズルリボン(自閉症への支援シンボル)みたい」だった

  • @maix1877
    @maix1877 4 роки тому +1842

    One interpretation: Haruka wanted to monopolise his mother’s attention to the point where he viewed any kind of attention from her as affection. He saw his younger brother as the reason for his mother’s “negligence” and, as a result, bullied him. Haruka then fell in love with a girl, possibly named Mirai, but she couldn’t reciprocate those feelings since she loved his brother instead, which drove Haruka to hurt her. Later, with a stone, Haruka killed the family dog his brother loved. His mother left or had to be separated from them after that incident when they were still young. In an attempt to regain his mother, Haruka drowned his brother and was discovered by the police.
    This is assuming that the MV is telling his past in chronological order btw. Before dissecting various scenes, there are a few points to bear in mind.

    1) The Japanese subtitles use few Kanji. Several Japanese comments have pointed this out already. If this was done intentionally, it implies Haruka stopped schooling/studying fairly early i.e. he committed his ‘sins’ at a young age. Might also explain why one of his phrases is, “I’m sorry for being dumb.”
    2) The title can be transliterated as “Weak meat cannibalism”. This alone has various implications, but this is how I’ve interpreted it. Since Haruka views himself as weak, he likely views his brother in the same light. As for the cannibalism part, he doesn’t consume his brother literally but might’ve taken on some of his memories as his own or tries to emulate him.

    3) The “blood type = personality theory” debate is for another time, but anything goes when it comes to anime characters. His type is AB, which is associated with being ‘dual-natured’. This aspect highlights how he fluctuates between being weak/reserved and having aggressive outbursts.

    0:00 It opens up with him possibly wearing his mother’s necklace. He sits at a dressing table, implied to be hers by the perfume and cosmetics. Another thing to note is that the necklace’s stone has a green centre and purple outer layer. The same colours are used for the eyes seen within the MV. Could symbolise his mother watching over him, and since he wished for her attention, it’d explain why he continues to wear it now.

    0:05 The reflection in the mirror flickers between Haruka and a young boy, which could symbolise how Haruka views his little brother as his replacement. The scene transitions to Haruka sinking in a body of water, shown by the splashes and bubbles. This water motif throughout the MV probably highlights how drowning his brother was his main sin.

    0:20 We can see a drawing of a lady and a young boy. This could be his mother and his younger brother since the hand of the boy is outstretched and touching Haruka’s hand, implying that they were a family of three. His questions are directed towards his mother, but we can’t forget that these events are told through his eyes. Although Haruka might’ve felt that his mother changed, ignored him, gave his brother more attention, blamed him for those things, this might not be the case. His worldview is likely warped, and later on, there’s more evidence that this might be the case.

    0:25 We can see the boy smiling, which is why I doubt that this child represents a Haruka at a younger age. The dissonance between the accusative, resentful lyrics and the cheerful images of the boy makes it unlikely that this is a representation of his past self.

    0:36 Haruka pulls back his collar and we can see the frightened expression of his brother as he hesitantly looks up. It’s as if he already knows what the repercussion for clinging to their mother is. To put it plainly, Haruka torments him consistently out of jealousy.

    0:39 We see Haruka’s dark expression and a drawing of a monster in the background. This is probably meant to represent Haruka and how either he himself, his brother, or both of them don’t view him as ‘human’, especially when compared to the previous drawing of his younger brother and the mother. Also, the “ダメダメ” his mother yells when she’s angry could be translated as “You’re hopeless”, but that’s probably Haruka’s interpretation. When “ダメ” is yelled and repeated like this, it’s commonly used to tell someone to stop doing something. His mother was likely telling Haruka to stop bullying his brother by grabbing him and pushing him into puddles etc.

    0:42 We see the water motif again with the brother and a young girl in the background. 違った筈の未来は不平等に恋をした is how you’d likely write the lyrics in a more ‘standardised’ form. A lot of the meaning is lost when this is translated as “The right future chose the wrong me”. A closer version would be “The future, which was supposed to be different, fell in love unequally.” But, just saying, “未来” can also be used as a girl’s name, so another possible translation could be “Mirai, who was supposed to be different, fell in love unequally.” Even if the girl’s name isn’t Mirai, the gist remains the same. That girl preferred Haruka’s brother. I know some people have suggested that she’s their sister, but 恋をする is used for romance. Never heard it used platonically before. Again, the concept of her “falling in love unequally” might be Haruka’s misunderstanding and if that’s the case, which would parallel what he believes about his mother.

    0:56 We can see Haruka’s brother being a mad lad and stealing his girl. Haruka also says that he wanted to be loved and this time he uses 愛する which is a more generic term for love, implying he craves love no matter what kind it is. His ‘denial’ could be that he believed his brother to be the root cause of all his problems. So, later when he says ‘I was wrong. It was me’ shows his realisation that he was responsible for driving others away. Another interpretation of that line will come later.

    1:04 We see Haruka shrouded in yellow carnations. This specific flower represents rejection and disappointment, which further implies that he was rejected by the girl. We can see these carnations used later in the MV to represent Haruka himself.

    1:07 The chorus tells us the obvious motive for Haruka’s ‘sins’; he wanted attention. But there are no scribbles, which would represent blood or death, during the scene where the girl’s shadow is between his hands. This could hint at how he hurt the girl, possibly by strangulation, but she didn’t die. If he did kill her, it’d be odd for the police to not get involved now, but later when he kills the dog. It’d make sense for his ‘sins’ to worsen over time and the consequences for committing those ‘sins’ to worsen as well.

    1:20 Next is a sequence where Haruka is sinking again and we see all the doodles. No idea what Godzilla is meant to represent yet, but we can see the mother, the younger brother, and Haruka lurking at the left-hand corner of the screen.

    1:30 When he says that “I’m fine” etc. it seems like an attempt to brush off his mother, who’s trying to find out why he’s behaving this way. She looks at him disagreeably when he claims to have “understood” what was happening. His explanation was likely a distorted view of the whole scenario. The family dog is lured into the woods by Haruka. His brother searches for it. In the scenery, we can see yellow carnations again so having his brother discover the corpse might’ve been his plan. We can also see how desperate Haruka is for affection when he mistakes his mother’s insult as praise. This might be a reason why he continues committing ‘sins’. He’ll take whatever attention he can get, and he doesn’t understand the reality of his actions. Haruka also asks how many times he has to do this to become human, which is linked to the aforementioned monster doodle of him.

    2:14 Haruka says that his ‘starting position in life’ was wrong, implying that he might’ve wanted to be the second-born or even just an only child. His “My loneliness was desired” could either entail that he wanted to either have no siblings or he purposely pushes people away so that he can dump the blame on his brother. It’d explain why he was trying to brush off his mother earlier. Blood is spilled and we can see the chain, which the family dog wore. Strong evidence to suggest Haruka was killing it with the stone. He was discovered by a stranger or the police, judging from the look on his eyes and round light source likely coming from a flashlight.

    • @maix1877
      @maix1877 4 роки тому +413

      2:26 Haruka continues to wake up with a toy bunny in his bed. It could be his brother’s room, symbolising his attempt to replace him or ‘regain his position’. If that is the case, then it’d make sense why he’s “not interested in his age” and claims to “cause misfortune for others around him” as mentioned in the character introductions. This leads me to the second interpretation of “it was me” since he might be so invested in ‘becoming his younger brother’ that his sense of self is fading. The boy might visually be what Haruka looked like when he was younger, and Haruka replaced his brother’s image with his own as if he wanted to experience childhood from his little brother’s eyes. Then again, this could be false, and the two brothers might just look nearly identical to one another.

      2:41 From what he says, how he grips onto the necklace and cries, Haruka is likely referring to his mother at this point in the MV and wonders where she is. If the police were there or informed that Haruka killed the dog, it’d be possible that his mother had to give both of them up, especially if they also knew about the incident with the young girl. His younger brother might’ve been labelled as an accomplice, considering his hands were dirtied in the scene. Even if he was complicit, it was likely under Haruka’s instruction anyway, judging by how terrified of Haruka his younger brother is. On the other hand, if the light wasn’t the police, then the mother might’ve just up and left. I’m doubtful of that tho. Another thing to note, we don’t see any more of those green-purple eyes after she leaves, which could symbolise how she’s no longer there to watch over him.

      2:52 In a final attempt to get his mother back or to ‘punish’ his brother, which he thought of as the wrongdoer, Haruka drowns him, shown by the blue background and the bubbles. From Es’s song “Undercover” we can see Haruka pushing his brother (represented by Es) into the water, and his brother gasping for air. Back to this MV, his lifeless body, indicated by the scribbles, is soaked and Haruka cries atop of him, realising that his brother wasn’t the problem.

      3:28 At the end of the MV, we see the same light, implying that the police discovered him once again. Judging by his expression, Haruka finally understands that he was the one at fault.

      Take this theory with a grain of salt. It can all be disproven since his 2 other trials/songs could be game-changers. Hopefully, it made sense anyway. Also, I haven’t studied for the JLPT in a while, so if any Japanese natives wanna roast me on any mistakes, feel free.

      Is Haruka forgivable or unforgivable? He does seem to regret it at the end of the MV. In voice file 2 on his character profile, he apologises for it as well. If he did commit this sin when he was younger, I’d say that he has more of a chance of being redeemable. That’s all I can comment on for now. Who knows what might happen next? But, damn, this song was a banger. Can’t wait for more to be released.

    • @gazatmephitarse9440
      @gazatmephitarse9440 4 роки тому +42

      Mai x This is REALLY GOOD.

    • @doodletrash01
      @doodletrash01 4 роки тому +71

      i love this theory it makes sense,,,, i like how you interpreted the little kid and the girl cuz i didnt see lots of ppl talk abt the girl

    • @najdahaqilahzayyan4335
      @najdahaqilahzayyan4335 4 роки тому +36

      aaaahhh didn't know that haruka has sibling!!!! I like this theory! This is really make sense with the mv!! Thanks for the theory! Btw you all vote him as innocent or guilty?

    • @doodletrash01
      @doodletrash01 4 роки тому +38

      i voted guilty :( i feel bad for him but haruka hurting the dog made me vote guilty that made me really sad

  • @ブランシュ-l4b
    @ブランシュ-l4b 3 роки тому +116

    ㊗️100万回再生!!👏👏
    ハルカくん、君の心象風景が100万回も観てもらえてるよ
    もう君は間違いなく愛されてるよ

    • @huwarari9926
      @huwarari9926 2 роки тому +15

      ここにいる皆はハルカくん推しなんだよ!そして私もその中のハルカくん推しの一人だ!

  • @たぬこ師匠チャンネル
    @たぬこ師匠チャンネル 4 роки тому +51

    0:00母とかのネックレス??
    床が子供の落書きみたい
    隣にいる子は幼馴染み??
    楽しい暮らしをしてたけど何かをきっかけでハルカ自体が壊れたのか?それとも家族が崩壊したのか??

  • @kaya1001
    @kaya1001 Рік тому +27

    2:14 で「スタート位置がちがうまま始まった」って歌詞にある辺りやっぱり何らかの障がいを抱えてたのかな…

    • @inyou28
      @inyou28 Рік тому +10

      「誰でもできることなのに僕はできなかった」的なことも言ってるし、学習障害や自閉症に…精神障害もあるかもな…

  • @水無月ねこ-r6e
    @水無月ねこ-r6e 2 роки тому +9

    自分のことだから無視して下さい、ごめんなさい。
    発達障害で苦しんでるハルカに自分を重ねてしまって息をするのがキツくなった
    私の場合は鬱でもう何年も療養していて、周りがどんどんマトモな道を歩いていて取り残されるのがキツくて。ハルカの「どうして離れていくの」「誰でも出来ること僕にもできたらな」って言葉が突き刺さった。
    親友と私は思ってる子達がどんどん遠のいていって、取り残されていくのが怖くてたまらない
    ここで書くべきではないのはわかっているけれど、吐き出したくなってしまいすみませんでした。

  • @__kill__me__
    @__kill__me__ 4 роки тому +80

    馬鹿でごめんなさいがささって、弱肉共食って言う題名すらも心にグサッとささって(考察見るだけで全然よく分かってない)けどめっちゃ楽しみにしまくってる

  • @さや-u5g
    @さや-u5g 4 роки тому +54

    ハルカくんを赦すときっと「自分は正しかったんだ」って思っちゃう気がするから今回は赦さない一択だなぁ

  • @kei-yuzuki
    @kei-yuzuki 4 роки тому +134

    ……………ハルカとしてのほりえるの魅力が最大限に出てる曲だと思った。サビ前の無気力さとかサビの訴えの力強さとか………最高や…もうやばい……涙が止まらねぇ

  • @Higayo_pacman
    @Higayo_pacman 3 роки тому +63

    ラストのシーンでハルカが男の子の首を絞める直前に手を出す演出があって、一番のサビの直前でも女の子に向かって手を出す演出があったから女の子もワンチャン殺してるっていう説があるのかなあ…。結局のところ男の子がハルカにとってのなんなのかが気になる。MVで顔が見えてるのがハルカと男の子だけだから過去のハルカっていう可能性もあるし、「不平等にこいをした」とか「スタート位置がちがうまま始まった」とかの比較しているような歌詞から弟とかの可能性もある。「愛される弱者になりたかった」とか「ぼくに気づいて」という歌詞とMVの様子から見て家族絡みで何かあったというのは分かるけど結局のところぜんっぜん分かんないですな…。
    [追記] もう少し考えてみたけど、この曲のタイトルもなんか意味ありそう。「弱肉共食」てさ、「弱肉強食」という四字熟語を元にしてるよね。弱肉強食の意味としてはさ、簡単に言えば「強い者が弱い者を食らう」とかそんな感じだよね。だったら弱肉共食は「弱い者を共に食らう」とかそんな感じの意味になるのかな。エスもアンダーカバーでハルカが出てきた時に、「赦すなら共犯者」て言ってたからそんな感じの解釈になりました。それでこの歌詞とMVのハルカの行動を見て個人的に思ったことは過去のハルカ、もしくは弟?である男の子が仲良くしてる者が今のハルカに対してどう思ってるかを確かめてみたかったのではないのかな、と思った。サビの「愛される弱者」というのは多分この男の子のことだよね?「否定をしていた」というのはハルカが他の人はハルカに対して愛を向けていないというのをハルカは否定したかったみたいな感じだと思った。「どうしても確かめてみたかった」はその愛情の確認?その歌詞の直後に手を出すシーンが出てきたということは自分に愛を向けていないというのが確認できたから精神が不安定になって殺してしまったという線がでてくるんですよね。まあこれも全部ただの予想だから全然違うということもあるんですが。笑 
    後は、「だれでもできること ぼくにもできたらな」という歌詞もちょい引っかかった。誰からも愛されていないから男の子が女の子と仲良くしてる、みたいなことが自分にはできないという理由でこういうこと言ってるのも分かるけど、なんか深い意味が他にもありそう。関係ないけど、この歌詞に限った話じゃないけど平仮名多くない?と思った。やはりそこにも何かしらあるのかなぁ…と考えました。
    「くるってるってほめてくれた ありがとうがんばるよ」という歌詞もなんか怖いと思った。これはどういう方向で解釈すればいいんだろ。ハルカの行動に気づいた周りが「狂ってる」と怯えながら言ったけどハルカの中ではそれが「周りが自分の存在をハッキリ認めてくれた」という認識になってハルカにとってはその言葉が嬉しいみたいな感じに変わってしまったとか?それが合ってるなら本当に愛情に飢えてたんだなあ、と思った。
    でも人を殺してもなお、「間ちがっていたのはぼくだった そうぼくだったんだ」て言ってる辺り自分のおかしさに気づいて罪悪感を感じてるようにも見えた。でもなぁ…この解釈だと100パーセント赦す方向になってしまうんだよなあ。赦さないという選択肢が見えづらい。だから第二審と第三審でもしっかり考察してハルカを赦せないと思えるような部分もしっかり捉えていこうと思った。
    追記と言ったのに追記前の文より長いとはこれいかに() ここまで読んでくださった方には本当に感謝です。長文であるが故に文法めちゃくちゃだと思いますが本当にそこは申し訳ないです…。曲としてはこんな感じの狂気感ある曲なのに中毒性があるのは流石DECOさんというかなんというか。堀江さんの声もめちゃくちゃかっこいいし、MVも凄い綺麗なんですよねぇ…。これからも楽しみです!

  • @日本国民-h5q
    @日本国民-h5q 2 роки тому +37

    「思い出に残っている出来事は?」っていう尋問で『花火』って答えてたから、1サビでは背景に花火が描かれているのか

  • @まりな-y4k
    @まりな-y4k 2 роки тому +55

    2審を聞いてまた戻ってきた。
    こんなにも聞こえてかたが変わるなんて思わなかったので震えている。

  • @すがとお-r1i
    @すがとお-r1i 3 роки тому +9

    考察落とすぜぇ ブン₍₍ ( ˙꒳​˙ Ξ ˙꒳​˙ ) ⁾⁾ブン
    〚文長いよー〛
    ⚠弟説じゃないです。
    ⚠歌詞だけ見て考察しました。
    ⚠書いたのは判決後です。
    多分、ハルカは発達障害がある事が判明した事により愛されなくなった。育児放棄、無視されたのかな。
    弟じゃないのでは?と感じたのは【変わらないでよ】という歌詞から。愛が変わるってことは元はあったんだよねって話になるのでは。他には、タイトル《弱肉共食》から、弟より自分の方がしっくりくるかなーと。
    あとは歌詞だけを見てでは、弟という存在は一切解らないと思ったからですね。
    【スタート位置が違う】とか、【間ちがっていたのは僕だった】とかは、仕方ないことだと自分に言い聞かせてるみたいに思う。
    もしかしてMVの女の子は実際に居た子じゃなくてハルカの欲しかったもの、理想の具現だったのかもしれない。【不平等にこいをした】でいうところの不平等に当たるものを具現化させたのが“女の子”。【愛される弱者】は幼い頃の自分で、その頃は"何もしなくても"愛され、自分という存在を見てもらえた。
    ”女の子”や”幼い頃の自分”を殺してることが「悲鳴」や「否定」に繋がるのでは?
    理想を理想、過去を過去だというのは、現実を突きつけられること、悲鳴に繋がり、理想や過去を殺すのは 現実を受け止める ようにも、 現実を認めたくないから存在を失くす、壊す とも受け止められる。
    これはタイトルの『共食い』もかかってくるかと。
    「ぎせい」には、犠牲,擬制,偽性…と色々漢字があるんだが… 〈〜をしていた〉っていうのが[犠牲になる役を勝って出た]という揶揄ならば”犠牲”をしていたであってると思う。ただ、他の漢字になるならば意味は変わってきそう。
    「下降」ってのは自分の地位とか存在感のゲージ?みたいなのが減っていくことのように思う。
    親に気付いてほしいがために殺人をしたみたい。もしかしたら一人じゃないのかも。大量殺人とかしたのかも。自分の存在を“だれか”に気付いて貰うために。重罪を犯しても自分の存在が誰にも気付かれないのかを【確かめてみたかった】。
    【間違っていたのは僕だった】ってのは殺人じゃなくて、自分の存在のこと。殺人の事で自分を責めては無さそう。【くるってる】っていうのはハルカにとって存在を認めてくれた、【ほめてくれた】ってことだから。存在を認められる事がハルカにとっての”ヒト”の定義だった様。
    ハルカはヒトになりたかった。だから人を殺した。
    ハルカのした殺人はサイコを感じるけど、私の考察でいくと、発達障害だからってので育児放棄した親のほうがサイコ味あると思う。
    親が許されんならハルカも許すべき。
    みんなの判断で赦されて良かったです!

  • @こみち-k7x
    @こみち-k7x 2 роки тому +11

    スタート位置が違う、というのは元々ハルカ君が知的障害とか、何かしら精神的な病気か障害をもってることを暗示してるのかな…「誰にでもできること僕にもできたらな」って言ってるのも、普通の子にはできる事がハルカ君には難しいってことを言いたいのかも?
    また、動画のカラフルな絵が精神病を患った方が描く絵に似ているなとも思いました。(※考察にもならない個人の感想です)

  • @shyskychild
    @shyskychild 2 роки тому +81

    I just discovered this project and now I'm hooked on it! Can't wait for season 2!
    But I'm commenting here because I realized that every time Haruka kills someone or something, the spotlight shines on him. Especially at the end. I'm assuming it represents attention because he was smiling. If so...in a way, he's getting that attention alright 💀
    (I'm still trying to figure out and understand every character so I could be wrong. I'm also like 2 years late so🤷🏾‍♀️)

    • @akatopus
      @akatopus 2 роки тому +2

      Welcome! So how's your thoughts about Haruka's second MV?

  • @AAA-kh6qi
    @AAA-kh6qi Рік тому +62

    The key symbolism to understand this video is the spotlight ! So the lyrics are all about how he wants someone to "finally notice him". The spotlight shines on his dog, his mother, and the girl. When he's with him, he has the spotlight shone on him, representing how he has someone in his life that notices and cares for him. One by one they all leave him. The mother first as shown by the blur (blood?) on her face, than the girl with blood on her face again, and finally the dog. (that's what he was hitting with the rock, the dog was bleeding out and he put him out of his misery)
    Now that everything that cared for him is gone, he's grownup all by himself in the dark/underwater. Nobody pays attention to him or cares about him anymore. He misses how happy he used to be as a child. He talks about "why did this future pick me!" in the lyrics, feeling he was screwed out by fate from happiness (which he kind of was).
    Then he sees a kid that reminds him of him as a child, who has a spotlight. Out of rage and jealousy, he kills the kid. Finally he has the spotlight again because he got attention for being a murderer, so he smiles. All he wanted was for someone to notice him.

    • @kilmameri8844
      @kilmameri8844 Рік тому +1

      omg thank you!! this helped me get it!
      also theres a bit where the young boy has the light on him, then wipes his face, notices blood on his hands and then the light has disappeared? i feel like that is somehow important but i cant understand what it exactly is.

  • @のあ-n9f7w
    @のあ-n9f7w 4 роки тому +177

    あの男の子は弟(だと思う)
    ハルカは何らかの障害があり、みんなが出来ることが出来なかった。
    だから母親は僕ではなく弟しか愛さなかった。
    僕はひとりぼっち。愛が欲しい。
    だから試してみたかった。
    弟を殺せば僕も愛されるのでないかと。
    でも間違っていた。
    殺されるべきなのは僕だった。
    ってことなんですかね?分かりませんが。
    ハルカのネックレスは唯一母親を感じられる母親のネックレス…?それとも首輪?
    てか、あの女の子は誰なんだ。
    誰か教えてください。
    色んな方が考察してくださいました!
    ありがとうございます!
    ↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓

    • @neasu2295
      @neasu2295 4 роки тому +20

      多分なんですが、、あの小さい男の子を弟だと過程したら同じ人に恋をしたんだと思います誰からも愛されなかったという歌詞がある通り自分がすきだったものは全て弟に取られたと思い込み殺してしまったんだと思います 信憑性が無くて曖昧ですみません💦

    • @reijinakiri6677
      @reijinakiri6677 4 роки тому +24

      弟だとした場合、ハルカ自身ではなく弟が障害者(社会的弱者とでも?)というのでも成立するかも?
      健常者であるハルカ自身ではなく障害者である弟の方が目をかけられて優しくされているように見えてしまい、それに嫉妬して皆がしているように弟に優しく接することが出来なかった、とか。
      愛される弱者になりたかったという部分も、自分が愛されなかった弱者だからなのか、弱者であれば現状よりも愛されると思っていたからなのか、みたいな異なる捉え方が出来るかも?

    • @のあ-n9f7w
      @のあ-n9f7w 4 роки тому +5

      直史neasu なるほど。
      自分が欲しいものを全て奪っていった弟が物凄く憎かったんでしょうね。
      教えて頂きありがとうございます!

    • @まく-z7u
      @まく-z7u 4 роки тому +3

      なるほど……色んな考察飛び交ってるけど、俺はこの考察が一番納得しました∠( ˙-˙ )/
      そうゆうことかぁ…
      …あの、ひとつ聞いてみたいんですけど、その考察前提で話をすすめると、MVにでてきたイッヌはなんなんですかね?|´-`)チラッ
      俺も色々考えてみたけど全然分かんなくって……
      誰かの意見がききたいです( .. )

  • @facelessbrutality3710
    @facelessbrutality3710 Рік тому +49

    after watching this music video, and even during it, i realize how much emapthy i have for Haruka. i relate to him quite a lot. the whole theory of him having a learning disability (i am diagnosed with a learning disability), as well as being called "crazy", and having distant/uncaring /bad parents. i really would like him to be forgiven from what ive seen. my heart goes out to him!

    • @glitchy9201
      @glitchy9201 Рік тому +5

      He was forgiven but the he was he was not forgiven in trial two

    • @deborahswenson-ie1hf
      @deborahswenson-ie1hf 10 місяців тому

      No offense, but thank goodness. As a person with a developmental disorder myself, despite feeling bad for him to some degree, I just couldn't empathize with him.@@glitchy9201

  • @Malakai__WeLoveYouMafumafu
    @Malakai__WeLoveYouMafumafu Рік тому +151

    I am autistic and adhd, but did not get diagnosed until I had almost finished school. I relate to a lot of the lyrics and the way Haruka thinks of himself. Hating how childish you are and wishing you could be normal like everyone else but never being able to, among other things. I think he might possibly be special needs or on the spectrum hence his childish nature and struggles with growing up, and that he resorted to murder from the stress his mental struggles caused him

  • @ひよこ-m5n
    @ひよこ-m5n 3 роки тому +7

    私なりに考察してみました…!
    小さい男の子はハルカくんの幼い頃だと思う派です。
    青いライトは人の意識で、水の中がハルカくんの意識の中という認識です。
    (小さい男の子を押し倒した時落ちているのがハルカくんであることなどから。)
    コラージュが多いことと、バウムテストみたいな絵があることから、ハルカくんは、障害とかがあったりするのかなと思います。
    幼い頃は障害がまだ目立っていなくてお母さんもガールフレンドもいて、幸せだった。
    お母さんはそれに囚われて今のハルカくんに目を向けてくれなかった。だからハルカくん自身も過去の自分に嫉妬するように。
    過去の自分の印象を消すために殺しを行った。(ここは急過ぎるけど…お父さん関わってたりするかなぁ。どれくらい続けたらぼくはヒトになれる がなんとなく怪しいなぁとか)
    男の子の手が汚れ始めている→お母さんの印象も変わり始めている。
    だけどまだお母さんの目が今のハルカくんを向かなくて、居なくなったはずのものがまだいて、お母さんをとらえたままなんだと泣いてる?
    そのあとの水の中で男の子の首を絞めるシーンは、完全にお母さんの、ハルカくんの中の、過去の印象が消えるシーンなのかなと思います。
    絞めている時はまだ青いライトが小さい男の子にかかっていたけれど、終わったあとはライトが消えていた。
    そして、今のハルカくんにかかる。
    今の自分を見てもらえた喜びで笑うも、自分の行ったことに対して良くないことを言われてなのか、辛いことを言われたのか、歌詞からも分かるけど自分で自分のしたことを解っているから、多分そんな感じで涙を流してる…?
    推しなんですよね…ハルカくん。
    どうしようもないなぁもう。( ;∀;)
    どうしようもなくなるしかなかったハルカくんがどうしようもなく愛しく感じちゃうからやばいですなぁ。

  • @aaAAA--
    @aaAAA-- 2 роки тому +104

    Man they've seriously improved in animation. Of course this still looks absolutely amazing but that improvement and in just two years- wow💖✨

  • @ミルクココアティー
    @ミルクココアティー 2 роки тому +16

    歌詞にある「ぎせい」って調べてみたら色んな言葉出てきた
    「擬制」実質は違うのにそう見せかけること
    「擬製」本物をまねて作ること
    「擬勢」見せかけの勢い
    「犠牲」自分の命や大切なものを捧げること
    もしかしたら「犠牲」の意味だけじゃじゃないのかも…?

  • @KageSoritia
    @KageSoritia 4 роки тому +218

    OKAY IT'S THEORY TIME (I'll edit this comment an unnecessary amount of time, because I'm really lost too)
    Also, I want to add a Content Warning - this will talk about animal abuse and murder. I know it sounds a bit weird to add this since this was supposed to be a dark series, but this kind of subject can be very upsetting to some people (and I really understand them), so I don't wanna hurt anyone !
    First of all, I'm not surprised that we don't see who Haruka actually murdered (I personally think he did two murders, one when he was a child and the other... I don't really know), I think we'll learn more about it in the second and third trial. This was really a presentation and some hints to his past, his way of thinking, etc. However, I do think there are major hints in the MV to who Haruka killed !
    The whole imagery of this MV is really childish, we see children’s drawings, Kid Haruka appears a lot, I think this is a period of his live that he’s fixated on. I think that lyrics such as « Tell me, why are you drifting away from me? » or « Tell me why? Please don’t change » are about the fact that he can’t get his past to come back. However, there is a part of his childhood that he seems to be in denial about. Multiple things are censored in the MV and some of the child’s drawing are really scary. For example, in 1:29, we can see in the bottom left a scary figure of what seems to be a person. (I think this person especially looks like Haruka’s mother, since both her mother and the drawing have short hair, but I’m really not sure, this is just a supposition). We can also talks about the eyes that appears to hide things such as dead bodies, and the fact that the face of Haruka’s mother, the little girl and later Haruka as a kid are censored.
    I think Haruka has a love-hate relationship with his past. It is obvious that nowadays he is really lonely, compared to the time where he has a family, but at the same time something feels « wrong » about his past. Like he’s blocking out the bad parts only to focus on the good. (I think the reason that soap is sometimes present in the MV is because Haruka is trying to « clean himself » from the bad things)
    I’m just going to start with things that I think are hinted, but I’m not sure of. I personally think Haruka has been abused by his mother. When Kid Haruka is walking happily with her, this illusion ends up disappearing, and he’s alone with his own self and eyes staring at him compared to the drawings of dinosaurs. (Also, I noticed it while writing, but at 0:39, when Haruka is pushing his child self in the illusion, we can see another shadowy scary figure behind him ! I think it proves it a bit)
    Also, lyrics such as « If I tried and couldn’t say it, / You would get angry at me and say « You’re hopeless. » », « It’s enough, I am a « disappointment » » , « You praised me by saying, « You’re crazy. » » seems to show that he was constantly put down by someone.
    Also, there is the fact that in 2:41, we can see his mother leaving. I’m not sure if that’s just to show that his family left him after he killed someone, or that it shows how little compassion his mother had for him.
    Anyway - I think his relationship with his mother is really sketchy, and I hope it gets more developed in the future songs !
    Now - Let’s talk about the little girl that we can see in the MV. I think that the fact that we see her only a few 10 seconds is really important : Haruka seems to have really fond memories with her (I believe they were watching fireworks together), but she doesn’t appear a lot. Is she a childhood friend ? His sister ? I don’t know. But it should be noted that we can’t see her face too. I think this is important as well, as if she was drifting away from Haruka’s memory. Is he in denial about something with her ? (Also, the fact that he extends his hands to get her is important)
    AND THEN, the next scene is crucial as well. We see Haruka laughing, like he does in the second and third chorus, which happens after he kills someone. Considering that he just tried to interact with that little girl, does it means that Haruka has something to do with the fact that we don’t see her after? Also, at 1:16, if you look really closely, you can see that under Haruka’s hands is the shadow of that little girl. (As well as the lyrics « Yes, it was me »). I think you understand what I’m trying to get to : I’m supposing that Haruka killed her.
    Now, let’s go to the other murder Haruka committed that is the most obvious. During the second verse and chorus, Haruka is searching for his dog who escaped in the forest, and then, we can see Teen Haruka bashing someone with a rock in his hand.
    I’m pretty much sure that this is the dog, sadly :( Mainly because, when we see who Haruka was killing, there is a little chain next to the puddle of blood. That chain was previously seen on the doggie.
    Also, Haruka probably killed his dog when he was a child ? First, when he goes to search for him, he’s a kid, and he’s also a kid when he has blood of his hands. To be honest, I think that most of his murders happened where he was a child, because it seems that he only becomes a teen when he actually « is seen doing it ». I think it’s a metaphor, like he became an adult when he started killing.
    Then, by the end of the MV, Haruka falls into abysses as it seems that everyone is leaving him, and he strangles his younger self. I think this represents either killing the memories of his past that haunt him, or the guilt and anger that he has for the actions his younger self committed. At the same time, when we see the dead body of his younger self, I think it represents another murder he committed (because his younger self’s body becomes censored as well, and the fact that he’s crying and that light is shedding on him). MAYBE, and I say MAYBE, this shows that he killed his mother as well ? Since it seems that she was the only one left alive that was linked to his child self. (honestly, if Haruka was abused by her, I don’t really care lol)
    This can also be the body of the little girl, or just a metaphor. There isn’t any clue for this.
    So, that’s it for my theory. There are many things that are left unanswered, we only got the surface things about Haruka’s past, basically the good and a little part of what he was in denial about.
    Also, I have a question about something that I can’t really find : does anyone knows what are the flowers that appears at 1:04 or 1:43? I think this is important, there may be an interesting fact about it in Flower Language, but I don’t know what kind of flower this is, so if anyone knows, I’d really appreciate if you tell me, please !
    Anyway, are you guys going to vote innocent and guilty ? I’m personally going to vote Guilty, because even if there are sketchy stuff in the MV, Haruka seems to have a darker side of his childhood that is hidden, but we don’t really SEE it in a way that can excuse the murders. I think voting for Guilty for him can help him show this side of him as well. Maybe if he’s voted guilty by this time, for the next song there will be more proofs that he is innocent.
    Thank you for reading everything !! See you next month with Yuno’s trial !

    • @Maramaranaa
      @Maramaranaa 4 роки тому +20

      ohhh this is a really interesting theory!!
      the drawing at 0:39 is the same as drawing 1:29, so probably 0:39 shows how his mom treated him?
      For the flowers I think they're yellow roses, which means jealously in the East. (I think cuz the petals are a bit round-ish, but if I'm wrong please correct me). Considering (and assuming these are yellow roses) they appeared before Haruka kill both the girl and the dog, maybe he viewed them as being loved and got jealous? and that's why he killed them?
      Personally I voted innocent, just because if I remember correctly the guilty ones were gonna be killed (or I misread something lmao). I'm gonna wait until the final trial to choose if these people are guilty or not

    • @KageSoritia
      @KageSoritia 4 роки тому +10

      @@Maramaranaa I wasn't sure, but you're right ! I hope it's true because it's really cool
      Oooh thank you for the flowers !! It really makes sense that it would be jealousy, considering that Haruka is pleading in the lyrics to be noticed. He wanted love, I guess ?
      And by the way, we don't know if the guilty people will be killed ! We don't really know what will happen to the characters, it's probably part of the mystery (and they won't be killed after the first trial, no matter if they're innocent or guilty they still have their second and third trial).

    • @Maramaranaa
      @Maramaranaa 4 роки тому +1

      @@KageSoritia ah you're right! I went back to the explanation video and jackalope did say we will hear all three songs lmao woops
      hng my first theory painted him as this abused child and then killing the abuser so I was okay with voting him innocent
      _now with this theory (and knowing they wont die) that vote sways a bit lmao_

    • @KageSoritia
      @KageSoritia 4 роки тому +7

      @@Maramaranaa Don't worry!! We have no way of knowing if there is a true theory, and tbh, I agree with you, I definitively thinks that Haruka was abused and that it played a big part in the murders he commited.

    • @inkflown
      @inkflown 4 роки тому +3

      Also the fact that the girl shows up very briefly and mostly in good memories maybe means that he's suppressing the more impactful memor(ies) of the girl along with the 'darker' parts of his past! Idk that's my take.

  • @__hsnyan
    @__hsnyan Рік тому +36

    最近堀江さんを好きになってキャラソン聴き漁ってたらこれに辿り着いたんだけど外国の方のコメントも多くてびっくりしてる…にしても堀江さんの演技力というか表現力えぐすぎる……

  • @バンバンバスピス
    @バンバンバスピス 2 місяці тому +6

    犬を手にかける夢を調べました。ハルカが手にかけている犬は恐らくペットの犬なので、愛犬を手にかけていると考えました。愛犬を手にかける夢は『ストレスが限界を迎えている』だそうです。あと、MVによく出てくる青色のネガティブな意味は『本音が出せない』だそうです。つまりハルカは本音が言い出せなくてストレスが限界を迎えている…?あとは考察班に任せます!

  • @ホワイトレン
    @ホワイトレン 3 роки тому +176

    日本語
    「ちがってたハズの未来は 不平等にこいをした」
    英語
    「The right future unfairly chose the wrong me」
    (正しい未来は不平等に間ちがっていたぼくを選んだ)
    日本語表記と英語表記の両方を見なければならないと実に感じました

    • @huwarari9926
      @huwarari9926 2 роки тому +1

      英語字幕なんか知らんけど鳥肌立った

  • @creampuff987
    @creampuff987 4 роки тому +49

    改めてすごいなぁ。DECO*27さんすごい。ホリエルすごい。山中さんすごい。スタッフの皆凄すぎて語彙力無くしちゃったわ

  • @-tsukineko
    @-tsukineko 4 роки тому +49

    僕に気づいて、誰か気づいてよって心にくる...
    3:16 ここからほんとにやばい...涙流してるし...泣きながら笑うのグッとくる...

    • @-tsukineko
      @-tsukineko 4 роки тому +3

      0:00 母親のネックレスとかなのかな...

    • @-tsukineko
      @-tsukineko 4 роки тому +4

      2:52 泣きそうに歌うのほんとつら...

    • @-tsukineko
      @-tsukineko 4 роки тому +4

      もう赦すか赦さないかの投票出来る...どうしようか...

  • @rengris234
    @rengris234 4 роки тому +70

    just throwing my theory out there,
    At first, I thought Haruka had a brother because of one theory I read and that at the end he was strangling someone who looked like him in the end when he looked like he got caught. I also read another theory that it was his younger self that he killed. Even if it was himself, other people shouldn’t see that metaphor, which makes me wonder who Haruka really killed in the end. Was it someone when he got caught in the act or was he just caught?
    We see Haruka with an older lady which could be his mother. Other theory also said that he might have been abused as a child. For me, somewhat true but not sure to what extent. One thing I’m sure of is that he must have abandonment issues. He seeks attention, craves for it that he’s willing to do anything. He adores the times spent with his mother as we see in the video. But this could be just what he sees. What is actually happening is that the mother is forced to be with child Haruka. She doesn’t really care. I noticed in the doodles with the mother and Haruka, the mother was drawn with two sets of facial expression. The one looking at him is what Haruka sees. He sees that his mother is caring for him. The other expression with the red lipstick is looking away which I can say is the mother’s real expression.
    Also one reason that’s why we can’t see their faces is because Haruka wanted to believe that they had gentle and happy expressions when they are with him. But their actual expression may not be. They could have looks of disgust or disinterest. That’s why he blurred it out.
    The young Haruka we see is the gentle and happy child. He might have been loved before but according to the video and lyrics the mother was distancing herself from him and was blaming him for what happened. Also since as we see it’s only the two of them, and no signs of father was shown. We can say that he is in a broken family and that his father left them. It’s only the two of them left. His mother could also be blaming him why the father left.
    Based on the lyrics and video,
    At the beginning of the video with his lines why are you drifting away from, could mean that why is his mother being so distant from him. And then he asks, why is it my fault? His mother must have had fits of anger when she ignores him and that when she sees him screams at him that it’s all his fault. It was cowardly thing to say.
    Her mother started to change. She must have been a loving mother but that was now breaking. If Haruka tried and failed to say anything, she would get disappointed and say “You’re hopeless”. That’s where we see adult Haruka pushing his younger self which could mean that he’s blaming himself. Now see Haruka blaming himself for not being able to do what others could do easily which made wonder can he speak?
    Then now we see his memory with a childhood friend girl he had, it seems like he’s struggling within himself. He loved the affection he got from his friend. He wanted to be loved even if he had to act like a weakling. But he wanted to make sure. I don’t know what he wanted to make sure of, that he would not be rejected? But might have done something extreme. Like maybe strangle her to death because it didn’t go as he wanted? It then show the chorus like admitting that it was him. This could also be his first kill. He wanted someone to know that it was him. Also his first apparent, shown through scribbles, descent into madness/darkness.
    Now we see him with his only remaining family, his mother and their dog. It seemed that it has been engraved in his mind that everything is his fault and that he is a disappointment. We see him succumbing to self-deprecation because of his mother’s discontent. He’s still the same and nothing changes no matter what he does, he convinces himself that it should be fine to give up. Now we see his frustrations within himself. He keeps telling to himself that it’s fine but we all know deep inside that it’s not.
    It might be during his mother’s fits of anger, he tried to be understanding and stay by her side but what he gets in response is a disappointed look and a harsh response of “You’re crazy.” Haruka who so craves for every drop of attention in any form took it as a praise. She might have thoroughly ignored him during this time so just hearing a few words from her was a saving grace. He must have misinterpreted her words and thus he continues his destructive ways. He is also confused on why he’s doing what he does. And I’m not sure though why he would kill the dog. It could be he was venting his frustrations towards the dog or he is envious of the affection his mother must have given towards the dog.
    Now he’s saying that he became a sacrifice, he was supposed to be a beloved child, but now everything was spiraling down. He could mean that he must have been born at the wrong time.
    Whatever he tries to do, it still ends up failing. What you need and what you don’t need, is it still there? Since it shows him drowning, his screams for help could just be within himself as he wails on his own. Seeking for someone to pity him, love him and save him from himself. He is aware that he’s denying it all but he doesn't know what to do. Again I don’t what he does to make sure of something.
    He’s spiraling down once again this time he might have killed his mother and also in turn killed the innocent young Haruka in his mind. Since this was the only time he cried and his face was also filled with relief. Like finally it’s over and yes it was me. He was relieved that someone finally noticed what he’s done.
    For me, can be forgiven, if he's guided properly he might still be saved.
    Looking forward to his future story.

    • @Rarrinn
      @Rarrinn 4 роки тому

      You're fuckin underrated

  • @somewhereoutthere9354
    @somewhereoutthere9354 3 роки тому +266

    Don't worry Haruka, even if Mikoto beats you, you'll still get third place if you make it a million. :>
    12/12/21: Bruh, Over 200 likes??? I know it's typical to bring up but thanks! This is the most likes I've gotten honestly XD

  • @とうり-o5b
    @とうり-o5b 4 роки тому +13

    「ぎせいをしていた」って書いてて、難しい字だからひらがななのかなって思ってたんだけど、「ぎせい」って「犠牲」とも書くけど「擬制」とも書ける…よね?
    擬制…実質は違うものを同一のものとみなし、法律上同一の効果を与えること
    ハルカが殺してる男の子は弟で、実際は違う人間なのに両親が弟の方を愛していたからハルカも弟くんとして扱われてた…とか…ないか…?

  • @hamstergoddess1344
    @hamstergoddess1344 Рік тому +19

    Looking back at this video after seeing T2 and Haruka's outcome, I'm really starting to think it would be better for his own sake if we voted him guilty in the first trial. This video is a battle between Haruka's denial of his own responsibility and his reluctant admission of guilt. It takes a lot of courage for him to let go of his childishness and instinct to avoid blame. But by voting him 'innocent,' we allowed him to fall back into his old habits of never taking responsibility. It's the first chance this guy has had to come to terms with his own actions, and we gave him exactly the wrong response. :'(
    Glad to see him voted guilty in the second trial, but now I wonder if the damage is done. Hoping the best for this blue-hair!

  • @Sammilicious
    @Sammilicious Рік тому +21

    Haruka seems to be an unwanted child. In one of the questions he got he told us that his name (which js very girly) was chosen way before and that his mother expected a girl and not a boy. I believe that he got a lot of attention as a child but that most likely stopped after his little sister was born and his disability came to light. His mother probably tried to distract him with other things like gifting him a dog.. which he didn't even like, while she had all her attention on her daughter/his little sister. He did say that he was probably jealous of the person that he killed and that's why he did it. He couldn't live with the fact that someone else got all of his mother's attention and he didn't so he started doing things such as killing animals and killing his little sister in the end. His mother/parents couldn't deal with a problem child so they might have abused him further. The young boy in the video seems to be none other than himself being showcased as a child because his real self still is very childlike as pointed out by a lot of people !

  • @karin4686
    @karin4686 3 роки тому +62

    あははの声が癖になって毎日聴きにきてしまう

  • @alisha758
    @alisha758 3 роки тому +14

    Tomorrow will be the last day I will ever see XXXk views ever again. If it doesn't happen tomorrow then.. Nah it's gonna happen tomorrow.

  • @hannaho.1605
    @hannaho.1605 3 роки тому +77

    i cant stop coming back to this song it makes me so unbelievably sad and just hit me so much harder than any of the other milgram songs haruka ily

  • @車地琉汰
    @車地琉汰 4 роки тому +35

    ・所々に出てくる犬
    ・犬の足跡と一緒にあった血らしきもの
    ・お母さん?妹か幼なじみ?の存在
    ・潰していた死体は?
    ・僕の孤独は望まれていたんだという歌詞
    ・花の存在(意味深くらいに大量にある為)
    ・月と空の色について
    ・何故か舞台みたいなpv
    くらいでしょうか?いくつかの手がかり並べておきました。

  • @atlanta1pm451
    @atlanta1pm451 4 роки тому +72

    I really don't think he killed his brother. Haruka said that he has a father and a mother but never mentioned any brother. At the beginning, I see it as Haruka seeing his younger self. Everyone has its face hidden but that's not the case for Haruka and this little boy. At 2:00 we also see that the "young boy" is looking at his hands covered in blood but then immediately Haruka replace him. Also Haruka speaks in a very childish way, doesn't know video games, stutters.. etc. I think he still considers himself as a child. (especially because he always wake up with a bunny plushies in his hand).

    • @dragobruder6328
      @dragobruder6328 4 роки тому

      well yea but the thing is, as the dog died at 2:15 (also covered in blood) its only reasonable that he does have a brother since at the end where he "kills" his brother he is also covered with that "blood".
      Also I think he just really hates his brother since he did got a lot more attention than Haruka. At the end where the flashlights do discover Haruka and the dead body (as said probably his brother) it wouldn't make much sense to arrest him without any reason if it was just a "little Haruka". There wouldn't be a body at all at this point

    • @atlanta1pm451
      @atlanta1pm451 4 роки тому +2

      @@dragobruder6328 It might also be his mother but to be honest, I'm still not sure of what Haruka did...

    • @dragobruder6328
      @dragobruder6328 4 роки тому

      @@atlanta1pm451 at the end we need to decide for ourselfs if he is guilty or not. Also I doubt its the mother since she "went" away/disappeared at 2:43. I could think of she moved because she is just scared of her own son

    • @dragobruder6328
      @dragobruder6328 4 роки тому

      @@atlanta1pm451 and to be honest. I really feel sad for haruka. I don't know why but I just think it makes me sad that he realizes at the end that he is the problem instead of others. But I think (?) he is guilty. I wouldn't kick him because I just like him xd and the song is a banger lol

    • @atlanta1pm451
      @atlanta1pm451 4 роки тому +1

      @@dragobruder6328 I guess we'll discover it later. Come to think of it? Yuno, Futa and Mu's crimes were really obvious but Haruka is the only one I'm still not sure about. Maybe I'm overthinking and Haruka killed his little brother like you think :/

  • @trashiest
    @trashiest 11 місяців тому +11

    damn this dudes inferiority complex is a banger

  • @粥味ドメ
    @粥味ドメ 4 роки тому +31

    歌詞が平仮名だから発達障害だって意見があったけど、私は弟に成り代わって自分が弱者になるためにバカな自分を演じてるんじゃないかって思ってる。 発達障害にしては流暢に話せるし、馬鹿な俺にもわかるように説明してくれというようなセリフがあったことから、実は自分に言い聞かせてるんじゃないかなど考えております。 すみませんかなり横暴な考察です

    • @natural_greeeeen
      @natural_greeeeen 5 місяців тому +4

      いや、個人的にいい線行ってると思う

  • @ふらーうぇあ
    @ふらーうぇあ 3 роки тому +18

    まって、、考察とか関係なしに胸がきゅってなった、、なんかもう、色々辛かったんだねって思いながら見てた、、考察じゃなくてごめん、、テスト前なのにどうしよ、ハマっちまう、、

  • @シャバシャバ牛丼
    @シャバシャバ牛丼 4 роки тому +253

    タイトルは「弱肉共食」...
    深そう(よく分かってない)。

  • @user-yousiki00
    @user-yousiki00 4 роки тому +94

    間違っていたのは、そう、僕だったんだ。ってフレーズ狂おしいほど好き

  • @kokoro7996
    @kokoro7996 2 роки тому +57

    Who else is here because his second trial song is about to premiere?

  • @jingles00
    @jingles00 2 роки тому +40

    I doubt anyone will filter through newest comments by now, but if anyone's seeing this - hi! Just sharing some of my 'unpopular' thoughts about the MV here.
    Personally I agree with the kid in the video representing a younger version of Haruka, not a sibling.
    An interpretation that I haven't seen at all in the popular comments is the scene at the end, where we can hear Haruka's voice separately in a more raw way, with the spotlight shining onto him and the lyrics being like "Someone please notice me... [...] I was wrong. Yes it was me."
    I feel like that's literally him confessing to the crime as a cry for help, in an attempt to get noticed, to be specific (as it fits throughout his whole theme. Perhaps his 'breaking point' was his mother dropping contact with him, like the MV showed shortly before the scene?). Throughout the whole music video, we see anything that Haruka has hurt in the sort of scribbles - or his own younger version. I believe it's alluding to his mentality of being a weakling; victim. *He isn't letting us see the actual crime he committed, instead censoring it or putting his own self in; turning the attention on himself deliberately.*
    He's paired up with Yuno in a theme of "not taking responsibility". Yuno doesn't care, while Haruka focuses on himself and not what he has actually done; using the literal victim card to turn our attention away from his wrong-doings.
    (Heck, they both seem the mentality of "will do it again if I wanna", hence why I'm really looking forward to how Haruka's story will 'progress'. Perhaps the key to having him grow up will be taking proper responsibility with a guilty verdict?)
    From the MV with all the other prisoners, all of their crimes are captured in a still image in a literal sense (for example Mu stabbing someone with a box cutter). Haruka DID choke someone to death, which in the video was in the form of an allegory of killing his own, childish self.. but he only did that by he confessing to the crime.
    And even though he did confess - he isn't taking any responsibility, wallowing in his self-pity.
    Man, his lyrics are pretty damn literal now that I think about it lmao
    Well! Thanks for reading through if you did and comment if you'd like to talk about somethin!!

    • @AoyagiToyaVBS
      @AoyagiToyaVBS 2 роки тому

      Well I did filter through newest comments-
      And btw I highly agree with you!

    • @rinhoshizora6186
      @rinhoshizora6186 2 роки тому

      I always filter to newer comments so I can reply to the tiktok ppl in mikoto's vid 🤣 and yeah I agree with your theory!

  • @gegetamu
    @gegetamu 7 місяців тому +12

    低めの男性キーなのに一オクターブ上げた瞬間超高音裏声確定ソングになるの歌として難しすぎる