I think that if you look at his lyrics and trailer for his next song, the alter is probably very stressed as well. He wants to save Mikoto, it’s not just a psychopathic side of him. It’s a side that probably saw Mikoto struggling, hurting, smoking to cope, and hated it. The alter doubts themselves too, you can see it such as “Maybe it’s ok to live” and such. The alter and Mikoto are struggling together, that’s why he’s in Milgram, he isn’t just a random serial killer.
Another point I want to add is that this song may be Mikoto’s POV on the situation. Maybe he wants to be innocent, and say his alter is a monster that is disgusting and different from him. That’s why the alter and him have such different sounding parts. Maybe in the next song we’ll get to hear the alters POV.
I think the is it ok to live side is mikotos host And that his “evil” sides the protector (FYI did spouts from really bad trauma so um… alters are usually there to help cope with that trauma) To me his seemingly evil alter looks like he’s aware and tells mikoto that the emotions he’s feeling are ok and I think convinced mikotos host to do it? I think the murder had something to do with his girlfriend especially cause I looked at monopoisoner I can’t tell what the guy he killed actually did to his girlfriend yet but I think he knew the guy personally I doubt his innocent alter is completely innocent too… maybe he’s aware of the crime but thought it was a bad dream , paying attention to his dialogue I got to that conclusion along with the fact people with DID don’t *actually have*multiple people inside their body in vague terms it spouts due to trauma so bad in your youth that your brain starts putting up amnesiac barriers blocking your personality from forming properly. It usually manifests around 6-10 years old… it can’t just go away after the abuse is gone too ,like any other mental disorder. Maybe mikoto was a delinquent ? And that’s why he says stuff like “if I could change”? I don’t know what mikotos trauma was but I know it was no joke so I guess that alter handles most of his emotions he tries to hold back and lashes out… i just pray es is the only child he’s beat up I think there’s 3 parts to his system cause the song has 3 different sounds The heavy sound, soft sound, and then the instrumentals come together I won’t lie it took me a while to realize but I really do think his host commit the murder I could always be wrong though since this is all just a theory I’m think his protector is the most aware of the system and his host just has (an idea of it) some theories I saw said he was recording himself out of fear. And his innocent alter said he stopped smoking actual cigarettes a long time ago. I think mikotos mv shows him in a serial killer perspective because he doesn’t understand that he’s a system along with the fact milgram doesn’t show the crime completely in one video just like how we haven’t seen amanes crime yet despite the fact it was shown in undercover. I’m still voting mikoto guilty for now cause I need more insight on why he commit his crime and him being voted innocent would do more harm than good
from what i know of alter so far (from anime ofc) is that, alter is still a part of someone personality or more like manifestation of something deep inside of someone. So real mikoto looked like being normal while the alter being super aggressive tendency is just separate them completely, if u fuse them together you will just find the usual killer (without alter) they are normal at daily routine but can be aggressive when they want to. So the point is mikoto have alter because he have malice to kill deep inside his heart.
@@Nian91131 No, anime portrayed that really wrong do not use anime as a source?? It’s a manifestation of the brain being overloaded with stress, fear, and/or emotion. He COULD have malice but looking at his next song it doesn’t look like it.
@@Rio-do2uz the cover songs don’t actually mean much and simply encapsulates their personality so for Mikoto, the song’s most likely chosen for him because he’s manipulative(in that he wants everyone to believe he’s this perfect version he’s not) and he says he had a partner so he’s most likely currently single
"Like omg Courtney, he may be a horrible murderer and he like is so unapologetic about it and like literally bathes in his victims' blood but like... Those abs Courtney. Those abs."
for the newcomers here, i want you guys to know that this mv was an absolute SURPRISE. before this, mikoto's whole schtick was that he didn't remember why he's in milgram. he was the bingus. the Just Some Guy. the guy who worked at mcdonalds. MeMe being a metal song was only a fandom meme. imagine being a milgram regular, waiting for the premier, only knowing mikoto of the fun clueless guy who liked to give the other prisoners nicknames, and seeing THIS
Ya honestly it's almost as annoying as what they complaining abt (the tiktokers(?)) I want to see more theories and appreciation to the MV, illustator? And analyze the color scheme of mv? The tarot?? not complains...
I think he just lies to himself and pretends that he's innocent. He created a whole innocent persona and happy place to get away from real life. It's probably a defense mechanism or escapism. Seems like he eventually realizes he can't run away from being a murderer, so he just freaks out. His happy place becomes bloody and dark, which shows that even his innocent self isn't really innocent at all. He definitely doesn't have DID and he's definitely guilty lol. Edit: People are saying he might have dissociative amnesia and I think that makes a lot of sense! There's a scene where you can see cctv footage (2:36) and I feel like the reason for this is bc Mikoto doesn't fully remember what he did wrong and feels the need to watch himself everyday. Maybe after seeing something messed up in the footage, he remembers he's a murderer? And once he remembers, his fake persona becomes ruined and he starts to question everything. The lyrics after this scene start to make a lot of sense now. It also explains why the happy place Mikoto turns evil at the end.
The thing people seem to be forgetting is that it is canon that every character is guilty, in one way or another. The PVs are shown for viewers to decide if you forgive them for whatever "crime" they commit, or not. This is only the first ones too, the eventual outcome of the voting will most likely impact what else we'll be seeing in upcoming PVs
Something I observed: Mikoto is shown to have an ahoge/hairstrand. and John (the official name for his alter that Es assigned to him from the VD) is shown to have no ahoge/no hairstrand in Double. In 0:33 when Mikoto is killing someone off, he's wearing a beanie, and when he's throwing the body + hat in the garbage dumpster, they never show us how Mikoto's hair looks like. I think the creators are trying to conceal the true identity of who committed the crime.
A lot of people are talking about the tarot cards so as a ex-tarot card reading nerd, let me hit you up with my interpretation: So, I realized at 3:23 after his shuffle it was showing a 10 card celtic cross spread starting with the page of pentacles crossing the fool and conveniently, there are exactly 10 from the point The Fool is shown. We can imagine the reading space to be interpreted in two halves. On the left side you have the Wheel and the part where the Celtic Cross gets it's name from. It is what you think of yourself and your personal ongoings. On the right side is the Staff that sees the wheel from afar. This is what the outside thinks of you and thus the impact from the outside world. Then there are two ways we can determine their position in the spread 1) basic flip order of tarot cards which is a bit harder for the left side since people all do it slightly differently (i.e. when they appear on screen) OR 2) based on how they appear relatively on screen. You (Left side) - Present (Center): The Fool 3:20 Problem (The one crossing center): Page of Pentacles 3:22 Past (Left of Center): Five of Swords 3:26 Future (Right of Center): Wheel of Fortune 3:25 Goal (Top of Center): Ace of Cups 3:27 Subconscious (Bottom): Two of Swords 3:23 So obviously, he thinks he's innocent, hence The Fool in the center, but something new has started for him that he can't control (Page of Pentacles). Originally, he felt like what he was doing was just the cost of being right (Five of Swords) but in the back of his mind there's something nagging at him (Two of Swords). He ultimately wants compassion for himself (Ace of Cups) because remember, he thinks he's innocent but eventually, he can't escape fate (Wheel of Fate). The Outside (The Right Side) - You (Bottom): King of Cups (Reversed) 3:29 Outside Factors (Second to Bottom): Five of Wands (Reversed) 3:31 Fears (Second to Top): The Chariot 3:32 Outcome (Top): Death 3:37 I interpret this the persona he puts out is that of a person who feels like his life is out of control. Yet, from the outside people seem to think he's just avoiding the situation. I'm not sure if this is saying he's avoiding by pretending or if it's a case of someone creating another personality in order to avoid what had happened. In any case, he's afraid of moving forward, hence the Chariot in his fears and the fact that by the end he punches the viewer for digging into his mind for too long. Ultimately, things will change drastically for him. HOWEVER. And this is a huge however. His actual spread might be slightly different. If you pause a 1:14 you can see another spread which tells a little bit of a more disgusting story: You - Present: The Hanged Man (Reversed) Problem: Queen of Swords (Direction unknown since it isn't shown beside this moment) Past: Wheel of Fortune (Reversed) Future: Five of Swords Goal: Ace of Cups Subconscious: Ten of Wands (Reversed) This spread seems to infer that he knew what he was doing (Queen of Swords) when he killed someone for no real reason (Hanged Man). He had been over burdened (Ten of Wands) when he suddenly lashed out (Wheel of Fortune) but he liked the way it felt (Ace of Cups) and will do anything in the future to keep doing it (Five of Swords). The Outside - You: King of Cups (Reversed) Outside Factors: Five of Wands (Reversed) Fears: The Magician Outcome: The Devil How he is viewed is basically the same since those don't change but his fears and outcome did change. From this I view it as his fear being realized as someone who is stronger/knows more than he lets on but in the future he will be addicted... to killing... Random Bits and details: (Edited) I think the reason he's wearing "The Hanged Man, Reversed" which is labelled on his shirt since the first time he's on screen is because he's trying to give the impression that choosing him as guilty is a mistake by calling himself a pointless sacrifice instead of the actual person he killed. At 0:44 and 0:47 you can actually see "The Fool" sitting in his apartment, almost as if he can manipulate it to show you that this is him and thus the second tarot card spread I believe is faked. On his single card draw at 1:16 he draws a blank which very few people use because it literally just means you are not meant to know at this time... A cop out if I've ever heard of one. My friend also pointed out to me that being overworked and snapping aligns with his screenshot in Undercover at 2:11 where he is literally sleeping at his desk with a redbull and coffee like he was trying to pull an allnighter at work.
UNDERRATED COMMENT! This made me understand a lot of stuff about the MV, as although it was obvious that they were tarot cards I don't know anything about it. Thanks a ton!
Woooww thank you for blessing us with your existence and for taking your time writing all of this. This is a lot of information to swallow and a lot of *important* details that meant to be "coded" with the cards. Especially when you said "but he liked the way it felt (Ace of Cups) and will do anything in the future to keep doing it (Five of Swords)." "In the future he will be addicted to killing" So even if he thinks of himself as innocent rn he will keep on looking for the "wrong ppl" as an excuse to kill them and "be good" to society by "cleaning" the bad guys out of town. I really liked your theory when you said "it might be the creators idea to threaten the viewers to keep him alive" and they even made him good looking and add the option to vote innocent prisoners you favor. Maybe there is something upcoming in the future. I'm new to milgram, discovered his song yesterday by accident and I'm really happy about this accident 😂 I'm still think about the other music videos I've seen and can't wait for the other songs. I've heard that milgram is coming back this July so I hope I'll be able to participate live this time. Thanks again for everything. Wish you all the best 💕
Hope that Mikoto trending on TikTok does not ruin Milgram or the fandom honestly also stop comparing him to other anime characters he is his own character
@@GE-0530RN yeah though it was predictable since something new music related will always somehow trend on TikTok but this is a pretty iffy way of it getting big
Watching after Double and both his voice drama, I realise that John doesn't seem to be the type that laugh joyfully like a kid we saw at 0:031:46 and 3:17 . The only time we really see John laughs (painfully) is when he was stressed at the end of Double. In this song, 2:55 and 3:42 are more like the John we got to know... Beside the "fact" that Mikoto remember nothing and John doesn't even know the victims' faces (his answer when asked is very vague and quick too), we actually see a real human and the crime at 0:35 The more I watch, the more Trikoto theory makes sense. The smiling one can even be the original one doing the crime, while the Double we knew are his alters...
Ay I see new people here in milgram and listen 1.) This isn't about who is guilty or not. All the prisoners all guilty about their crimes. The point here is if you think they should be FORGIVEN for their crimes or not. 2.) THERE ARE NO CORRECT THEORIES! They're theories for a reason, there are 3 trials, this is only the first! Their crimes are extremely vague, we don't have solid clues. What you see on the surface isn't what it seems. Read a lot of theories, don't just stick to one! 3.) If you cannot handle heavy stories, Milgram isn't for you. People might get mad at me for this, but if you guys are upset with this series because the prioners killed someone then- probably don't bother with this series. This is the literal theme of Milgram. They all killed someone, but it's the viewers choice if they want to forgive or not. Anyway have fun!! Oh and! Watch the first videos and jackalope's video first! Then probably watch all the songs in order :D There's a lot to unwrap in milgram, take your time! Don't vote yet if you don't know what you're getting into please! The votes WILL directly affect the ending of the story, we don't know what will happen to them if they're forgiven or not forgiven, so vote wisely :P
@@strwbrrybunny388 You can vote through the official website ^^ The link is in the description or in the channel's about section! You can also vote through the app :D
I think he is just strongly convincing himself that he has not fault even if very internally he knows he did it, but he doesn't accept it. Or that he has amnesia of the traumatic experience. Explanation edit: (sorry for my bad English) I don't know enough about DID to talk about it but for me this song seems more like the 'good' and the 'bad' he are the same. The 'bad' feeling guilty and the 'good' holding down his 'bad part'. But he thinks of himself like two different 'he' that's literally the name of the song "MeMe". Explanation of what I understood: At the start he says that: even if he could, would he have not done dose things? (expressed like he was talking as he was other person) So he express he feels guilty but would probably not stop. When he says "'I' will save 'me'" 0:43 is like he is going to do something to not feel guilty and says "switch" then he changes of scene. In that scene is the only part where he seems genuinely innocent but has the 'truth' (the tarot cards) in front of him. The part of 1:18 he is (the 'bad' one) clearly feeling bad of what he is doing, and decides to split in two the part of him that feels guilty and the part that wants to do that. But he is the same person there. In the minute 2:13 he seems surprised because he 'found' the truth and express that even if he tries to stop "Hurting it, holding it down" he always ends making something bad. In 2:47 is just a sequence of words of he convincing himself he did nothing wrong after "realizing" his lies. Finally in 3:02 he is lying, his face seems fake and then converts in the other 'he' when he snap his fingers, but the other he is smiling as and talking as he was innocent, meaning he created the false one. To me it seems like through all the song he actually knows the truth, or he always knew it or that he has dissociative amnesia but by minute 2:23 already remembered and is lying to himself.
@@th-gg4cc Is a music video, as the name says. Of the group of songs of MILGRAM. There's info in the channel. Is not an anime it just has a wonderful animation.
just a reminder to the english audience, EVERYONE is guilty of murder- that's why they're in milgram. it's not about if they're guilty or not, because of course they are- it's about if we forgive them.
@@wandasho It’s more like if they themselves (the prisoners) consider their crimes as murder For example, Futa didn’t out right murder (as he didn’t actively physically kill) but perhaps he thinks that what he did was “murder” and was thus selected to be put into Milgram etc etc Side note: We don’t actually know if Yuno had an abortion! There are many other theories out there that point to a different story. But idk lol everything in Milgram are just theories
@@wandasho you cant rlly say that for sure. we only have 1 out of 3 MVs, and the one we have is VERY metaphorical. so what i'm saying is there's probably more to her than we imagine
On August 13th 2021, the entire milgram community writhed in horror (and thirst) as this man undressed, which attracted a horde of TikTok users all around the globe. This is the story of Kayano Mikoto.
THEORY TIME!: Even though he has a violent alter, Makoto DID commit a murder/crime and is being judged for HIS sins, not his alter's. In the voice drama and the beginning of trial 2, it is shown that Mikoto's alter does not abide by Milgram's rules (such as not being allowed to hit Es), which shows that Milgram sees Mikoto and his alter as two separate people. So if Mikoto was being judged by his alter's actions, shouldn't the situation be reversed? Shouldn't the rules apply to the alter but not to him? This shows that Milgram does see that Mikoto specifically is being judged, not his alter. Secondly, in this song, we can see that he and his alter have different beats. His alter uses a 4:4 beat (verses 1 and 2), while mikoto uses a 3:4 beat (chorus), but notice that after the second verse, the beat stays at 3:4, meaning that the rest of the song is about Mikoto. I do believe that Mikoto genuinely has DID (thats confirmed) but he's using it as a way to shift blame from his crime(s) while he plays ignorant. "See!? I didn't do that! It was my evil alter!" And since he does have DID and a violent alter, people believe him. When voting for Mikoto, do not take his alter's actions into consideration. Mikoto is guilty imo because of Mikoto and no one else.
maybe, probably, he is afraid of his own actions, and of all the possible consequences that they can bring with him, that is why he seems so agitated sometimes, he is afraid of himself ,but he is more scared of the possible punishment)? Maybe also,he is terrifying on admitting his own guilt, his own darkness.
TikTok has ruined the genshin fandom and attacked too many Asian creators by sending death threats and false accusations. May the fandom be only a little damaged by TikTokers
@@kittyythecat they gonna be down bad for mikoto and make him innocent like with shidou (God forbid that they find out how to vote). But what im predicting is that if mikoto DOES get voted guilty, then these thirsty ppl are gonna start sending threats to people that voted him guilty. The End.
@@GE-0530RN it's easy to know with a lil bit of logic. i found milgram myself just because of tiktok, but this fandom seems amazing and I don't want it to be toxic. i've already seen so many comments comparing mikoto with chifuyu from tokrev and it's so upsetting
i absolutely love how the two emotions that mikoto and his alter is split into, is in the music. At one moment, there is a hard guitar and drums, making it sound like hard rock, and at another time, it is kind, gentle, and almost seems absolutely harmless.
WAIT IMG I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING, in mikoto biodata, he prefer to smoke with electronic cigarettes/vape but in 2:49 John is smoking with normal cigarettes which means that both of them have different preference
Mikoto demonises his split personality; so when the Milgram reads his thoughts, it creates a video that shows how he interprets those actions. As far as we know, the 'other' Mikoto could have had completely justifiable reasons same as Kotoko or Shidou, but we only see the 'good' Mikoto's perspective in this song, and he is terrified of himself.
I have a feeling they made this character, one side completely innocent and the other undeniably unforgivable (yet hot to add some spice) to see if people will side with the main personality or the alter
I don't think he's lying to himself or has anything that "blurs the line" between what is forgivable or not forgivable, I think he's a master manipulator and that Mikoto WANTS us to think that he has something that makes him forgivable whether its dissociative amnesia or DID or anything. Throughout the MV there are two "types" of Mikoto's singing, but at 2:11 , the soft version bleeds into the harder version, so to me that means that he's aware of his crimes. Also him saying "I will never forgive you even though I'm right" and "Why am I even here" does not speak of a man who doesn't know what he's done, but more of a man who knows what he's done but is trying to convince the audience that he is innocent. My biggest reason for this is for his behaviour from 2:58 to 3:11, where he is "explaining" that he has nothing to do with this, but he doesn't even blink, almost like it is rehearsed. Either way I'm just glad its not another suicide song
i couldnt get over the part at 2:58 personally, hes so fidgety and all-smiles, as if hes trying too hard to seem friendly, and the fidgety-ness just makes it feel so much like hes lying. i spoke with my friends about the 'why am i here?' line, and we all came to the agreement that its not really about why hes in milgram or forgetting things, but essentially, 'why did this situation spiral into what it is now?'. i personally think that MIkoto killed once, maybe by accident, but he felt the urge to do it again, and again, and again, and over time he created a persona of an innocent him to feel like his killings were justifiable, like a 'well theres no way *i* could do that!' sorry for the reply, i just heavily agree with what youre saying and wanted to share too. definitely think hes some kind of pathological liar of some kind still my favortite character tho and i have no (lots of) shame
Nah I don't think it's possible. The whole milgram progrma is suppose to be a visualisztion/songification of theor mind If he truly were a manipulator his pv would show that from start to finish lol
![MILGRAM / Mikoto - Double [The Second Trial Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uT_YCsUHUEg/mqdefault.jpg)
![MILGRAM / Mikoto - Double [The Second Trial Music Video]](/img/tr.png)
![MILGRAM / Futa - Bring It On [The First Trial Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/l9ynxMY188I/mqdefault.jpg)
I can fix him guys I swear 💞
I can make him worse 💙
@@WRAETHERR PLEASE NO
rachie fix him plsss
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花江夏樹の声は俺を浄化してくれる
I think that if you look at his lyrics and trailer for his next song, the alter is probably very stressed as well. He wants to save Mikoto, it’s not just a psychopathic side of him. It’s a side that probably saw Mikoto struggling, hurting, smoking to cope, and hated it. The alter doubts themselves too, you can see it such as “Maybe it’s ok to live” and such. The alter and Mikoto are struggling together, that’s why he’s in Milgram, he isn’t just a random serial killer.
Another point I want to add is that this song may be Mikoto’s POV on the situation. Maybe he wants to be innocent, and say his alter is a monster that is disgusting and different from him. That’s why the alter and him have such different sounding parts.
Maybe in the next song we’ll get to hear the alters POV.
I think the is it ok to live side is mikotos host
And that his “evil” sides the protector
(FYI did spouts from really bad trauma so um… alters are usually there to help cope with that trauma)
To me his seemingly evil alter looks like he’s aware and tells mikoto that the emotions he’s feeling are ok and I think convinced mikotos host to do it? I think the murder had something to do with his girlfriend especially cause I looked at monopoisoner I can’t tell what the guy he killed actually did to his girlfriend yet but I think he knew the guy personally
I doubt his innocent alter is completely innocent too… maybe he’s aware of the crime but thought it was a bad dream , paying attention to his dialogue I got to that conclusion along with the fact people with DID don’t *actually have*multiple people inside their body in vague terms it spouts due to trauma so bad in your youth that your brain starts putting up amnesiac barriers blocking your personality from forming properly. It usually manifests around 6-10 years old… it can’t just go away after the abuse is gone too ,like any other mental disorder. Maybe mikoto was a delinquent ? And that’s why he says stuff like “if I could change”? I don’t know what mikotos trauma was but I know it was no joke so I guess that alter handles most of his emotions he tries to hold back and lashes out… i just pray es is the only child he’s beat up
I think there’s 3 parts to his system cause the song has 3 different sounds
The heavy sound, soft sound, and then the instrumentals come together
I won’t lie it took me a while to realize but I really do think his host commit the murder I could always be wrong though since this is all just a theory
I’m think his protector is the most aware of the system and his host just has (an idea of it) some theories I saw said he was recording himself out of fear.
And his innocent alter said he stopped smoking actual cigarettes a long time ago.
I think mikotos mv shows him in a serial killer perspective because he doesn’t understand that he’s a system along with the fact milgram doesn’t show the crime completely in one video just like how we haven’t seen amanes crime yet despite the fact it was shown in undercover.
I’m still voting mikoto guilty for now cause I need more insight on why he commit his crime and him being voted innocent would do more harm than good
from what i know of alter so far (from anime ofc) is that, alter is still a part of someone personality or more like manifestation of something deep inside of someone. So real mikoto looked like being normal while the alter being super aggressive tendency is just separate them completely, if u fuse them together you will just find the usual killer (without alter) they are normal at daily routine but can be aggressive when they want to. So the point is mikoto have alter because he have malice to kill deep inside his heart.
@@Nian91131 No, anime portrayed that really wrong do not use anime as a source?? It’s a manifestation of the brain being overloaded with stress, fear, and/or emotion. He COULD have malice but looking at his next song it doesn’t look like it.
@@Rio-do2uz the cover songs don’t actually mean much and simply encapsulates their personality so for Mikoto, the song’s most likely chosen for him because he’s manipulative(in that he wants everyone to believe he’s this perfect version he’s not) and he says he had a partner so he’s most likely currently single
CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW GOOD HIS SONG IS THOUGH
YEEEES
@@niniy4kk PERFECT TASTE OF URS😈
NANDE BOKU GA KOKO NI IRU NO~~
3:04 自分が二重人格だと受け入れられなくて、「そんなはずない」と縋ってる感じが表情に出ててすごくすき。
Him sitting in the blood filled tub and blowing a cigarette with no shirt on being the most replayed says alot about our society
they love the fanservice
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that bit REALLY freaked me out it literally gave me chills...how could you be simping over THAT 😭😭😭
"Like omg Courtney, he may be a horrible murderer and he like is so unapologetic about it and like literally bathes in his victims' blood but like... Those abs Courtney. Those abs."
@@manicbeyond you're so right omfg
for the newcomers here, i want you guys to know that this mv was an absolute SURPRISE. before this, mikoto's whole schtick was that he didn't remember why he's in milgram. he was the bingus. the Just Some Guy. the guy who worked at mcdonalds. MeMe being a metal song was only a fandom meme.
imagine being a milgram regular, waiting for the premier, only knowing mikoto of the fun clueless guy who liked to give the other prisoners nicknames, and seeing THIS
Yeah we are a fandom that gets surprises also....memes....sorry I had too....
@@ZeiahYT haha no worries! that was intentional on my part lol
the bingus ever
Man, I'm so sorry I didn't discover Milgram before and missed all of this 😂 Even as a newcomer I've loved this MV though!
There was a side of me that wanted him to be a boba stealer honestly
ミルグラム最近友達に勧められて曲全部聴いたけどほんといい曲ばっかだし考察見るのもするのも楽しい
こんな素敵な曲だらけだから海外の人に人気なのも納得した
Também gostei muito das músicas !
ミコトくんめちゃめちゃ赦さない派が優勢なのでここでひとつコメントを残しておきますね。
自分はタロットカードを中心に考察進めてるんですけどまあ皆さんお察しの通り二重人格やら強いストレスを感じているやらが色んなカードから意味合いを変えてたくさん出てくるわけですよ。
そのうち考察が行き詰まってしまったので母に助けを求めました。
ミルグラムのことは伝えずに「もしも自分が裁判長なら、何人も人をころしてしまったのは確かだが本人は全くその記憶がないと主張する多重人格者を有罪にするか無罪にするか」という内容で。
母はものすごく悩んで有罪にするか無罪かはわからないし決められないけどと、代わりに過去に読んだ本の話をしてくれました。
ビリーミリガンという実際にいた罪を犯した多重人格者の話らしいです。
詳細は見つけられなかったのですが母曰く「記憶にない罪で責められるという強いストレスを主人格に与えて自分が表に出ようと目論む人格がいた」らしいです。
おっと、ミコトのボイスドラマでも似たようなことが起きましたね。
エスが「お前はヒトゴロシだ」と断言した後ミコトは過呼吸を起こし、突如人が変わりエスに襲いかかりました。
また、ミコトは「やめてよ…そんな、嫌なこと言うの…」とも言っています。
「自分はヒトゴロシ」という事実を突きつけられることはミコトにとって強いストレスを感じることだと分かります。
ミコトの中にある人格は ミコトに強いストレスを感じさせて、弱らせて、乗っ取ろうとしてる可能性があるんじゃないでしょうか。
この動画でも片鱗は見せているんですよね。 1:40 辺り。
人をころして帰ってきたミコト。風呂で血を洗い流し歯を磨いています。
ぼーっとした様子で鏡に向き合った直後、はっとした顔になりがっくりするミコト(手前)とそれを見て笑う鏡のミコトが描かれています。
がっくりするミコトと笑うミコトが主人格と別人格だとすると主人格のミコトが弱る様を別人格は喜んでいることになります。
それとタロットカードについてです。
全部書いてるとめちゃくちゃ長くなるので部分的に話しちゃうんですが「吊るされた男｣というカード( ミコトが着ているシャツにプリントされていたり動画で何度か出てくる )に込められた意味として「今の状況は高みに登るための通過儀式だと考えている」というのがあるらしいです。
今の状況(ミルグラムに収監されている)は高みに登る(主人格を退けて別人格が表に出る)ための通過儀式…
つまりミコトを赦さない、思想を否定ってちょっとだいぶヤバいんじゃないですかね。
そうじゃなくてもミコトは強いストレスを感じると人格が切り替わり凶暴な方のミコトが出てきちゃうので「思想を否定」というストレスの匂いしかしない行為はめちゃんこにリスキーなんですよね。
もうひとつ。9月2日のユノちゃんの誕生日にミルグラム公式アプリのタイムラインでハルカくんがユノちゃんの誕生日をお祝いする投稿がありました。
ユノちゃん曰く「やっぱ、ハルカちょっと変わったよね？ちょっと声も大きくなってるし、目も合うようになってる」と。
あんなにおどおどしていたハルカくんが、です。
ユノちゃんは好きな女ができたんじゃないかと睨んでいましたが恐らく第一審で赦され、思想を肯定されたことの影響です。
思想を肯定されると囚人達にいい影響があるみたいですね。
では思想を否定されるとどうなるでしょう？
ハルカくんの場合ならもっと塞ぎ込んでしまうかもしれません。
ミコトの場合は最悪ずーっとバーサーカー状態かもしれません。
第二審のことを考えるのが恐ろしいです。
ミコト実は赦した方がいい説、一考の余地はあるんじゃないでしょうか。
長文失礼しました。たぶん読みづらかったと思います。すみません。
なるほど！私は最初から赦す派(あくまで別人格がやったことだと思ってるので)なのですが、きっちりした理由を言ってくれてありがたいです
@@takanashi_d4y Dont worry its fine actually, liked the theory You Made up, and it was very detailed
ごめん最後のバーサーカー状態で笑ってしまった
この文章新聞にして配りたいレベルですごいと思う 自分は元々赦す派だったけど赦さない派の人も変わるかもしれないレベルで ほんとこの方(とお母さん)すごい
「赦さないよ」の歌詞からのバーサーカー状態への切り替えもそういうこと…？(違)
can u guys stop arguing about tiktok and just post the theories im literally on my knees rn
literally, i just want to know what happened
This is why we need YT to add a “sort by oldest” filter XD
amagi rinne
literally
Ya honestly it's almost as annoying as what they complaining abt (the tiktokers(?)) I want to see more theories and appreciation to the MV, illustator? And analyze the color scheme of mv? The tarot?? not complains...
優しい声と優しい顔なのにダントツで不穏な空気出してきてるの好き
XD
日本人はいつも他の人よりも賢く、深く、敏感です私は自分の国が嫌いです
@@julianachaves2978 涙拭けよ
@@julianachaves2978
なんか草
ハンカチ貸すぞ…
@@julianachaves2978もっと自信持ってええんやで
あの尋問終えたあとでクソデカスクリーンにデカデカとこの映像流されたエスくんの気持ち考えると鳥肌が立つんじゃ...
公開後私的考察です。
皆さんが仰っている通り私もミコトくんは2重人格だと思います。
曲調が激しい雰囲気のときの人格とゆったりとした雰囲気のときで人格が分かれていて、前者が人殺しだと思います。
以下の理由から、入れ替わりのスイッチはお風呂場だと思います。
主人格は自分が人殺しであることを知らない
→殺してから帰ってきて、付いた血液などをお風呂で洗い流してから入れ替わるとしたら辻褄が合う
1:42、お風呂場の鏡に2つの人格の交差が表現されていた
初めに映る、ボロボロのお風呂場のような場所にソファが置いてある場所がミコトくんの精神の中だと思っているから
(これは根拠がありません…多分です…)
また、人殺しの人格はミコトくんのマイナスの感情や怒りを出すためにできたのではないでしょうか。
以下、理由です。
2:08、曲調的に｢嘘なら君のこと｣まで主人格、｢赦さないよ｣という怒りの感情を表すときから人殺しの人格に入れ替わった。
1:33、｢飲み込んだマイナスのイメージが僕を抱き締めてくれたの｣
曲調が人殺しの人格。マイナスのイメージによってつくられたことを示唆する？
そして、人殺しの人格は主人格を救っているつもりで暴力をしているのでは？と思います。
最後、｢今なら君を赦してあげる｣。｢赦す｣から、いい気分をしたわけではないことは確かですよね。その後に、人殺しの人格(声が入っていないので恐らくですが)が殴りかかってきます。
このことから、人殺しの人格は主人格の怒りを代弁しているつもりなのか、主人格を大切に思うあまり主人格に害をなすものを片っ端から消していっているのか…だと考えました。
〜分からないこと〜
よく出てくるカードが指すもの
キャラによって、曲中の｢ゆるす｣の表記が｢赦す｣だったり｢許す｣だったりすることがあります。この違いはなんでしょうか…？
以上です！長文読んでくださりありがとうございます！考察楽しみましょー！
I think he just lies to himself and pretends that he's innocent. He created a whole innocent persona and happy place to get away from real life. It's probably a defense mechanism or escapism. Seems like he eventually realizes he can't run away from being a murderer, so he just freaks out. His happy place becomes bloody and dark, which shows that even his innocent self isn't really innocent at all. He definitely doesn't have DID and he's definitely guilty lol.
Edit: People are saying he might have dissociative amnesia and I think that makes a lot of sense! There's a scene where you can see cctv footage (2:36) and I feel like the reason for this is bc Mikoto doesn't fully remember what he did wrong and feels the need to watch himself everyday. Maybe after seeing something messed up in the footage, he remembers he's a murderer? And once he remembers, his fake persona becomes ruined and he starts to question everything. The lyrics after this scene start to make a lot of sense now. It also explains why the happy place Mikoto turns evil at the end.
i think the same! at 2:10 he seems like he realized, and the atmosphere turned dark again
The thing people seem to be forgetting is that it is canon that every character is guilty, in one way or another. The PVs are shown for viewers to decide if you forgive them for whatever "crime" they commit, or not. This is only the first ones too, the eventual outcome of the voting will most likely impact what else we'll be seeing in upcoming PVs
@@einszweidrei486 I'm aware! When I say he's guilty, I mean that I don't forgive him and will vote him as guilty.
@@monbub ahh i see i see!
Read Mikoto's voice drama. :(
いろいろ考察もするけど、それよりとりあえず花江さんってこんな歌い方もできるんだなって……かっこいい。
Something I observed:
Mikoto is shown to have an ahoge/hairstrand. and John (the official name for his alter that Es assigned to him from the VD) is shown to have no ahoge/no hairstrand in Double.
In 0:33 when Mikoto is killing someone off, he's wearing a beanie, and when he's throwing the body + hat in the garbage dumpster, they never show us how Mikoto's hair looks like. I think the creators are trying to conceal the true identity of who committed the crime.
I never noticed that!
OH MY GOD YOU'RE A GENIOUS!
2:32 John does have the ahoge, there are other minutes were you can see it
OMG WHAT
@@Harpae69 Thanks for pointing this out!
人格切り替え(歌の切り替え)完璧すぎて感服
とりあえず…
ミコトさんの筋肉と、狂気に満ちた顔と、殴りかかるとこがかっこよくて思考が追いつかない笑
推し声優が推しキャラを歌うときがついに来た…
この時を待ってた。
歌い手だった花江くんがDECO*27 さんの書いた曲を歌ってるのがなんかエモい
二重人格なら洗面所？風呂場？っぽいところにソファーと机置いたあるのは壊れた精神空間だからっていう説を推したい。
あと多分二重人格なら非憑依型だとエモい
【公開後】
最初のロックは別人格、ゆっくりとしたリズムが主人格になる？
けど別人格の正体は知っていそうだったし、ならなんで僕がここにいるのかって言うのが分からないのかってなると今のミルグラムにいるミコト自体もまた別の別人格である可能性が高いのでは？
または、別人格が解離性健忘に陥っている可能性もあるのでは？
主人格がどっちの人格によって憑依型か非憑依型かわかるかな
タロット班後はよろしく
MVに出てきたタロットカードは悪魔、死神、愚者、戦車、吊るされ人だけわかりました（他はわからないです、自分自身はあまりタロット詳しくないので）
そしてそのカードそれぞれの肝心の意味は
悪魔 欲望に支配されているから気をつけなさい、欲で身を滅ぼす。
死神 今までの価値観、概念を全て捨てなさい。
愚者 何も考えずに前に進む、希望や志はあるが愚者という名の通り計画性が無さすぎる。
戦車 相反する2つの感情を上手くコントロールしてとにかく前へ進める。
吊るされ人 1度全く別の視点で物を見てみなさい。
ぱっとまとめるとこんな感じになるみたいです。
MVや歌詞もですけど、このあたりのタロットの意味を見ても二重人格の時の記憶がないとは思えないですよね。
あと、タロットには関係ないのですが、ミコトのボイスドラマの視聴はしましたか？
そこに至るまでの流れがわからなかったのであまりはっきりと考察することは出来ませんでしたが、めちゃくちゃエスくんに怒鳴りながら殴ってたんですよ。
その瞬間だけ別人格が出てきてたのか、それとも今までほかの囚人の前で猫を被っていただけなのかでもまた話が変わってきそうですが……
考えても考えてもどこかで矛盾が生まれて私の頭に限界が来たので後は考察班頑張ってください(☝ ՞ਊ ՞)☝
@@田中未琴 わざわざありがとうございます┏●
ドラマパートこのコメを打ったあとに拝聴させていただきました
多分二重人格の可能性が高いですね。
この例で挙げさせてもらった解離性健忘のことについても触れていましたね。
私の考察というより予想ですが、ミルグラムでは囚われているのはあくまでミコトであり、主人格である。別人格は人殺しではあるが、囚われてはいないためエスくんに暴力が振れた。
というのが私の考えです
ここから徐々に考察するのでまた編集するのでこまめに見てくださると助かります()
@@user-tt8nm6tz9l なるほど！確かにそれならミコト（別人格）が暴力を振るえたのも納得できますね。そこ私も悩んでいたところなのでありがたいです！私もまたなにか思いついたらコメントさせて頂きますね。
@@田中未琴
歌詞の考察です
「ボクが僕を救ってあげましょう」
この歌詞から
ボク▶別人格の人殺し(推測)
僕▶主人格のミコト(推測)
だと思います…主人格かはまだ怪しいですが
このことから歌詞で僕と言ってるフレーズはミコト視点だと考えるのが妥当だと思います
そして曲調が変わることから1番や2番の始めは別人格視点だと思っています
そこから考えて
「いっそ僕がもうニセモノ」はミコト、だから主人格はミコトでは？という考えに至ってます。
または、少しタロットカードについて調べました。小アルカナ？だと思われるものが
棒▶バッド
剣▶包丁
聖杯▶コップ？
金貨▶レコード盤
に例えられていると思います
このMVで殺害方法として使われてるのはバッドのみなので、余罪があると考えていいでしょう。
他にも調べてみると魔術師や運命の輪が写っていました。
運命の輪はタイヤに置き換えられて蛇のようなものがいます。
それがどういう意味かはまた後日…
「なんで僕がここにいるの」 つい 口ずさんでます。天使と悪魔みたいな対義するようなイメージを歌の表現力だけで出せるのは流石だな〜
現段階だと赦さないが多くなりそう？だけど二審目で二重人格(多分)になった背景が描かれてオタクがえ…どうしよう…って困惑するとこ想像してしまった
可哀想な理由があるんでしょうね待ってます好きです…………………^^
花江夏樹って…最高だよな
A lot of people are talking about the tarot cards so as a ex-tarot card reading nerd, let me hit you up with my interpretation:
So, I realized at 3:23 after his shuffle it was showing a 10 card celtic cross spread starting with the page of pentacles crossing the fool and conveniently, there are exactly 10 from the point The Fool is shown. We can imagine the reading space to be interpreted in two halves. On the left side you have the Wheel and the part where the Celtic Cross gets it's name from. It is what you think of yourself and your personal ongoings. On the right side is the Staff that sees the wheel from afar. This is what the outside thinks of you and thus the impact from the outside world. Then there are two ways we can determine their position in the spread 1) basic flip order of tarot cards which is a bit harder for the left side since people all do it slightly differently (i.e. when they appear on screen) OR 2) based on how they appear relatively on screen.
You (Left side) -
Present (Center): The Fool 3:20
Problem (The one crossing center): Page of Pentacles 3:22
Past (Left of Center): Five of Swords 3:26
Future (Right of Center): Wheel of Fortune 3:25
Goal (Top of Center): Ace of Cups 3:27
Subconscious (Bottom): Two of Swords 3:23
So obviously, he thinks he's innocent, hence The Fool in the center, but something new has started for him that he can't control (Page of Pentacles). Originally, he felt like what he was doing was just the cost of being right (Five of Swords) but in the back of his mind there's something nagging at him (Two of Swords). He ultimately wants compassion for himself (Ace of Cups) because remember, he thinks he's innocent but eventually, he can't escape fate (Wheel of Fate).
The Outside (The Right Side) -
You (Bottom): King of Cups (Reversed) 3:29
Outside Factors (Second to Bottom): Five of Wands (Reversed) 3:31
Fears (Second to Top): The Chariot 3:32
Outcome (Top): Death 3:37
I interpret this the persona he puts out is that of a person who feels like his life is out of control. Yet, from the outside people seem to think he's just avoiding the situation. I'm not sure if this is saying he's avoiding by pretending or if it's a case of someone creating another personality in order to avoid what had happened. In any case, he's afraid of moving forward, hence the Chariot in his fears and the fact that by the end he punches the viewer for digging into his mind for too long. Ultimately, things will change drastically for him.
HOWEVER. And this is a huge however. His actual spread might be slightly different. If you pause a 1:14 you can see another spread which tells a little bit of a more disgusting story:
You -
Present: The Hanged Man (Reversed)
Problem: Queen of Swords (Direction unknown since it isn't shown beside this moment)
Past: Wheel of Fortune (Reversed)
Future: Five of Swords
Goal: Ace of Cups
Subconscious: Ten of Wands (Reversed)
This spread seems to infer that he knew what he was doing (Queen of Swords) when he killed someone for no real reason (Hanged Man). He had been over burdened (Ten of Wands) when he suddenly lashed out (Wheel of Fortune) but he liked the way it felt (Ace of Cups) and will do anything in the future to keep doing it (Five of Swords).
The Outside -
You: King of Cups (Reversed)
Outside Factors: Five of Wands (Reversed)
Fears: The Magician
Outcome: The Devil
How he is viewed is basically the same since those don't change but his fears and outcome did change. From this I view it as his fear being realized as someone who is stronger/knows more than he lets on but in the future he will be addicted... to killing...
Random Bits and details: (Edited)
I think the reason he's wearing "The Hanged Man, Reversed" which is labelled on his shirt since the first time he's on screen is because he's trying to give the impression that choosing him as guilty is a mistake by calling himself a pointless sacrifice instead of the actual person he killed.
At 0:44 and 0:47 you can actually see "The Fool" sitting in his apartment, almost as if he can manipulate it to show you that this is him and thus the second tarot card spread I believe is faked.
On his single card draw at 1:16 he draws a blank which very few people use because it literally just means you are not meant to know at this time... A cop out if I've ever heard of one.
My friend also pointed out to me that being overworked and snapping aligns with his screenshot in Undercover at 2:11 where he is literally sleeping at his desk with a redbull and coffee like he was trying to pull an allnighter at work.
this is a really cool comment
Wowwwwww, never thought about tht!! U ar really something!
UNDERRATED COMMENT! This made me understand a lot of stuff about the MV, as although it was obvious that they were tarot cards I don't know anything about it. Thanks a ton!
I was searching for this comment (me a tarot enthusiast)
Thank you very much 💞💞💞
Woooww thank you for blessing us with your existence and for taking your time writing all of this. This is a lot of information to swallow and a lot of *important* details that meant to be "coded" with the cards. Especially when you said "but he liked the way it felt (Ace of Cups) and will do anything in the future to keep doing it (Five of Swords)." "In the future he will be addicted to killing" So even if he thinks of himself as innocent rn he will keep on looking for the "wrong ppl" as an excuse to kill them and "be good" to society by "cleaning" the bad guys out of town. I really liked your theory when you said "it might be the creators idea to threaten the viewers to keep him alive" and they even made him good looking and add the option to vote innocent prisoners you favor. Maybe there is something upcoming in the future. I'm new to milgram, discovered his song yesterday by accident and I'm really happy about this accident 😂 I'm still think about the other music videos I've seen and can't wait for the other songs. I've heard that milgram is coming back this July so I hope I'll be able to participate live this time. Thanks again for everything. Wish you all the best 💕
Hope that Mikoto trending on TikTok does not ruin Milgram or the fandom honestly also stop comparing him to other anime characters he is his own character
yes that´s annoying (also I don´t really like all those ´´I can fix him´´ comments, but that probably isn´t just a tiktok problem
Yeah. I was hoping milgram got big but not like this...
@@GE-0530RN yeah though it was predictable since something new music related will always somehow trend on TikTok but this is a pretty iffy way of it getting big
@@ZeiahYT it couldve been something else but noooo we had to get the tiktokers. Hey, at least that means we'll get some of the good tiktokers
@@GE-0530RN yeah....though so far I doubt it is on good hands due to the comments of the most popular Mikoto TikTok, but yeah let’s hope so
闇が伝わってくるサムネ……
やっぱり多重人格なんかな？？
楽しみすぎる🙏💕
Watching after Double and both his voice drama, I realise that John doesn't seem to be the type that laugh joyfully like a kid we saw at 0:03 1:46 and 3:17 . The only time we really see John laughs (painfully) is when he was stressed at the end of Double. In this song, 2:55 and 3:42 are more like the John we got to know...
Beside the "fact" that Mikoto remember nothing and John doesn't even know the victims' faces (his answer when asked is very vague and quick too), we actually see a real human and the crime at 0:35
The more I watch, the more Trikoto theory makes sense. The smiling one can even be the original one doing the crime, while the Double we knew are his alters...
再生回数の伸びやばすぎ
優しい歌い方と荒々しい狂ったような歌い方のギャップがたまらん、
ミコトくんだけ再生回数伸びるの異常じゃないなw皆から愛されているんやね
ミコトくんの怖いところは、自分（エス）が「赦す」「赦さない」を決める立場なのに、ミコトくんが「赦してあげる」と言っていること。
そして他の囚人とは違って、歌詞も映像も明らかに自分（エス）を認識した上でこっちを向いて語りかけてくるところ。最後ブン殴って来るし…
闇が深い
見返して気づいた？思ったんですけど
2:50
風呂でエナドリ飲んでタバコ吸って寝るって死のうとしてません？
曲見る限り自分が二重人格であることに気づいてそうなのに､なんでミルグラムのミコトは二重人格であることを知らないんだろうと思ってたんですけど、自殺に失敗して心壊れちゃったんですかね？長文失礼しました
なるほど🧐
2:50のとこ好き
ミルグラム最速の100万再生凄いな歌と人気の凄さがうかがえる
I don't speak Japanese but sounds good to me
ミコトくんミルグラムの中で人気があるキャラなもんですからね
にしても300万再生されんの早すぎィ…
watchinf this after double has me in even more tears
多分二重人格なんだろうけど、最後殴りかかってきたのは人を殺してなかった方の人格な気がする。自分は殺してないって信じて貰えない(言ってくれない?)からだんだん殺した方の人格に寄っていったのかなって (ガバガバ考察)
Ay I see new people here in milgram and listen
1.) This isn't about who is guilty or not. All the prisoners all guilty about their crimes. The point here is if you think they should be FORGIVEN for their crimes or not.
2.) THERE ARE NO CORRECT THEORIES! They're theories for a reason, there are 3 trials, this is only the first! Their crimes are extremely vague, we don't have solid clues. What you see on the surface isn't what it seems. Read a lot of theories, don't just stick to one!
3.) If you cannot handle heavy stories, Milgram isn't for you. People might get mad at me for this, but if you guys are upset with this series because the prioners killed someone then- probably don't bother with this series. This is the literal theme of Milgram. They all killed someone, but it's the viewers choice if they want to forgive or not.
Anyway have fun!! Oh and! Watch the first videos and jackalope's video first! Then probably watch all the songs in order :D
There's a lot to unwrap in milgram, take your time! Don't vote yet if you don't know what you're getting into please! The votes WILL directly affect the ending of the story, we don't know what will happen to them if they're forgiven or not forgiven, so vote wisely :P
Ty for this i was so confused on what everyone one was talking about until i read this (^^ )
@@bo319 no probs! Glad i could help ^^
Thank you so much for this! I was confused of what was going on ♡´･ᴗ･`♡
thank you so much! where do we vote?
@@strwbrrybunny388 You can vote through the official website ^^ The link is in the description or in the channel's about section! You can also vote through the app :D
0:54 1:48 2:58 3:10 3:21 NANDE
"NANDE BOKU GA KOKO NI IRU NO" 🕺
I love how all the other mv’s have 1-2 million views while mikoto has 6 million…hmm I wonder who the fan favorite is😭
This is the song I first saw from Milgram pssst
now amane is taking that place!
its cus he took his shirt off
殺人をする人格の曲調(ドラム強め)
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もう片方の人格の曲調(優しいメロディ)
ラスサビ(？)2:58～の曲調でどちらもが混ざったような曲調になっているから、殺人の人格を肯定し始めたのかな…………と
関係ないですけど、空の壁紙って精神に異常を来すらしいですね
(某ゲームのN様の部屋などなど…)
二重人格説を推していきたい
それあると思います。
最後の方に戦車のタロットカードが出てくるんですけど、2つの相反する感情をまとめて前に進むみたいな意味なので、殺人をしない人格（主人格？）も殺人をする人格も肯定して生きていくことを決めたのかもしれないですよね。
@@田中未琴
曲調でしか考察ができてないので、タロットの考察助かります……！！
1:16の｢ゆるさないよ｣が好きすぎてｳｯってなった 好きだ……
歌い分けというかなんというか、つかみどころがない曲調でかっこいい、、、
ミコトは二重人格なんかな
The change in his voice at 2:08 - 2:13 is just *chef kiss* Natsuki Hanae is such a great singer
全く考察できないけどミコトくんかっこよすぎる。。
ずっと楽しみにしてたから嬉しいー！！
花江さん最高
花江くんの歌い方…すごい、かっこよすぎる、よすぎる…途中の、優しい歌声から叫んでるような歌声に変わるところ…すごくすごくかっこいいし、引き込まれる…
はなちゃんの歌唱力()
2:07以降のパート超好きです
花江さんスゴすぎるだろマジで
花江のくんの声でこの雰囲気の曲を歌ってんの萌えるんだけど
I think he is just strongly convincing himself that he has not fault even if very internally he knows he did it, but he doesn't accept it. Or that he has amnesia of the traumatic experience.
Explanation edit:
(sorry for my bad English)
I don't know enough about DID to talk about it but for me this song seems more like the 'good' and the 'bad' he are the same. The 'bad' feeling guilty and the 'good' holding down his 'bad part'. But he thinks of himself like two different 'he' that's literally the name of the song "MeMe".
Explanation of what I understood:
At the start he says that: even if he could, would he have not done dose things? (expressed like he was talking as he was other person) So he express he feels guilty but would probably not stop.
When he says "'I' will save 'me'" 0:43 is like he is going to do something to not feel guilty and says "switch" then he changes of scene. In that scene is the only part where he seems genuinely innocent but has the 'truth' (the tarot cards) in front of him.
The part of 1:18 he is (the 'bad' one) clearly feeling bad of what he is doing, and decides to split in two the part of him that feels guilty and the part that wants to do that. But he is the same person there.
In the minute 2:13 he seems surprised because he 'found' the truth and express that even if he tries to stop "Hurting it, holding it down" he always ends making something bad.
In 2:47 is just a sequence of words of he convincing himself he did nothing wrong after "realizing" his lies. Finally in 3:02 he is lying, his face seems fake and then converts in the other 'he' when he snap his fingers, but the other he is smiling as and talking as he was innocent, meaning he created the false one.
To me it seems like through all the song he actually knows the truth, or he always knew it or that he has dissociative amnesia but by minute 2:23 already remembered and is lying to himself.
Or split personality
which anime is this ?
@@th-gg4cc Is a music video, as the name says. Of the group of songs of MILGRAM. There's info in the channel. Is not an anime it just has a wonderful animation.
no related but do you play ookami game?
It's like he has a double identity or something 👍
花江さんって歌もうまいんだね…かっこいい
確か元は歌い手さんじゃなかったけ？？
にしてもうますぎる✨✨
@@おそらそらそ せやで
そこからリモーネ先生と出会ったんやで
@@おそらそらそ そうなんだ………知らなかった。(￣^￣)もう、リモーネ先生に出会えるのが、奇跡だよね！🌠
@@kekekeke3965 やっぱそうですよね‼️
@@あき-k1y6y 奇跡に感謝‼️
Watching this after the second trial makes a lot of sense
はなちゃんの歌声本当に好き
just a reminder to the english audience, EVERYONE is guilty of murder- that's why they're in milgram. it's not about if they're guilty or not, because of course they are- it's about if we forgive them.
no not true yuno didn't do anything
@@wandasho she took a life even if it were her own decision to make that you cannot deny
@@wandasho It’s more like if they themselves (the prisoners) consider their crimes as murder
For example, Futa didn’t out right murder (as he didn’t actively physically kill) but perhaps he thinks that what he did was “murder” and was thus selected to be put into Milgram etc etc
Side note: We don’t actually know if Yuno had an abortion! There are many other theories out there that point to a different story. But idk lol everything in Milgram are just theories
@@wandasho you cant rlly say that for sure. we only have 1 out of 3 MVs, and the one we have is VERY metaphorical. so what i'm saying is there's probably more to her than we imagine
Abortion is not a murder yuno probably thinks so herself but abortion still isn't a murder
100万再生いくのはっっっっっや！！！
愛を感じる……ありがとう皆ありがとう…
エスが歌ってくれるの楽しみだなぁ…
natsuki hanae is one of the most talented seiyuu of all time and this just reinforces that
二重人格説は確定として、殺人をしているという事実があまりにもわかりやすい……。
人を殺している方の人格が、まるで“人を殺すためにある”かのように、殺人しかしていない。後始末も手慣れてるように見える。
けど殺した相手についてや動機に関してはさっぱり。
うふふかっこいいねミコトくんうふふ
そう演じているだけかもしれませんようふふ
@@user-jq4bz5xl8j それは怖すぎる！でも、もしそうだとしたら……それはそれであり
深い考察しようとしてもビジュでニヤつきを止められないの分かるよ
うふふかっこいいねミコトくんうふふ
考察できんよ
うふふかっこいいねミコトくんうふふ
あ、付け加えるとミコトくんかわいいですねでゅふふ
I am not here to make theories but to praise Hanae Natsuki amazing vocal range.
Yes.
This 👌
Yes.
On August 13th 2021, the entire milgram community writhed in horror (and thirst) as this man undressed, which attracted a horde of TikTok users all around the globe. This is the story of Kayano Mikoto.
So thats why this video have 4mil views..hmm i see i see
😭😭😭
Mikoto: slowly takes off his shirt
Everyone: 👀
YES YUPPP
In my birthday!
it has been 2 years since i first discovered this and its still fire man
この動画がおすすめに出てきて初めてミルグラムを知ったんですけど、コンセプトめちゃくちゃ好きだし、声優さんも豪華だし音楽もDECO*27さん動画もakkaさんとかろづ希さんとか知ってる方ばかりで、もっと前に知りたかった……
遂にミコトきたか！ミルグラムの公式アプリのタイムラインでのやりとりとか見てたけどなんか凄い闇深い部分とかあったしこの動画のサムネもなんか怖い…。
とはいえこの時を待ち続けていたのでめっちゃ楽しみです！
[追記] ボイスドラマ聞いてみた感想
やはりミコトは二重人格が濃厚？エスに「人を殺したことを忘れた」と指摘されてからの豹変ぶりがえげつなかったし。ていうか花江夏樹さんの声の変えかたよ。ホンマにあの人凄いと思った。そして豹変してからエスに攻撃を加えることに成功していたということはあくまでミルグラムは普段のミコトしか情報に入れてなかったということ？ミルグラムは囚人についての全てを把握してるわけではないのか？ちょっとその辺が分からなくなりましたね…。ていうか今回のボイスドラマで遂にコトコが出てきましたな。めっちゃかっこよかった…。コトコに関しても次回の「HARROW」で分かり始めると思うし、ボイスドラマも楽しみ。曲に関しての考察みたいなのはもう少したってから書き始めたいと思います。
アプリができないんでその闇深いところについて教えてください神様！
@@奈菜々 えーとですね、ミルグラムの公式アプリではタイムラインというものが見れてたまに囚人達のプチ会話みたいなのがそこに書き込まれるんですよ。それでミコトが夜中に意味分からないことを叫んでいる時があったんですよね。でもミコトは全くそのことを覚えてない？というかそんなことをした自覚がない、みたいなことがあったんですよ。だから二重人格説が余計濃厚になってるんですよね。
@@Higayo_pacman おぉありがとうございます🎉😊
@@Higayo_pacman それだけ見てると昼型と夜型がいるみたいですね
なんかいつ寝てるのか分からないみたいな情報もありましたし結構濃厚ですよね。
pre-mv theory:
this is gonna be a banger
so true
It is
急に優しい声になるの好き
花江夏樹歌うますぎる🥰
THEORY TIME!: Even though he has a violent alter, Makoto DID commit a murder/crime and is being judged for HIS sins, not his alter's. In the voice drama and the beginning of trial 2, it is shown that Mikoto's alter does not abide by Milgram's rules (such as not being allowed to hit Es), which shows that Milgram sees Mikoto and his alter as two separate people. So if Mikoto was being judged by his alter's actions, shouldn't the situation be reversed? Shouldn't the rules apply to the alter but not to him? This shows that Milgram does see that Mikoto specifically is being judged, not his alter. Secondly, in this song, we can see that he and his alter have different beats. His alter uses a 4:4 beat (verses 1 and 2), while mikoto uses a 3:4 beat (chorus), but notice that after the second verse, the beat stays at 3:4, meaning that the rest of the song is about Mikoto.
I do believe that Mikoto genuinely has DID (thats confirmed) but he's using it as a way to shift blame from his crime(s) while he plays ignorant. "See!? I didn't do that! It was my evil alter!" And since he does have DID and a violent alter, people believe him. When voting for Mikoto, do not take his alter's actions into consideration. Mikoto is guilty imo because of Mikoto and no one else.
The beat comment is genius
the beat of the song doesn't change. its 4/4 all the way thru.
@@tsukasaP pretty sure the chorus and latter half are 3/4. If you count 1 2 3 4, you'll lose the beat, it you count 1 2 3, you'll stay on beat
@@tsukasaP the 123 is faster than you think. All three beats are done in less than a second.
maybe, probably, he is afraid of his own actions, and of all the possible consequences that they can bring with him, that is why he seems so agitated sometimes, he is afraid of himself ,but he is more scared of the possible punishment)? Maybe also,he is terrifying on admitting his own guilt, his own darkness.
考察とか難しくて出来ないけどとりあえず花江さん最高！鳥肌たった！
何回聞いても飽きないしほんとミコトくんも花江さんも神すぎる。花江さんの高音が綺麗すぎるし、曲調変わるとこもブレなく歌えるのすごいから一生聴いてたい。700万再生おめでとうございます🎉
花ちゃん声かっこ良すぎる！最高…
ハイトーンボイスと低音使い分けててかっこいい…
何回聴いてもいい曲。かっこいい…
花江くんの狂ったキャラを演じるところを見るのが大好きなのでとっても嬉しい！！！！！変態と狂人は花江くんの真骨頂ってかんじするよね〜🥰
全然考察はできないので歌い方好きすぎる話しよう、優しいとこと激しいとこの歌いわけ、ハンパない。どっちも好きなので、一曲で両方堪能できるのは本当に最高だ…感謝…。花江くんの裏声大好き。がなり大好き。どっちも聞けちゃうんだよ…神。時々入るセリフもたまんねぇや…笑い声やばくないですか、、、？？あと、最後の歌い方やばい、やばい……とっても好き。。
好きな場面
0:03 あまりにも最高すぎる
0:54 ここの今までとは打って変わって優しくなった歌い方がめっちゃ好き
1:31 「これくらいは良いでしょう？」最高
1:48 2番のこの力強い歌い方の「赦さないよ」も好きだ
2:25 高い声超好き
2:46 実際に風呂場に居るみたいに反響する声がめっちゃ好き
3:04 目見開く所が最高
3:18 カードからミコトに焦点が合うとこ最高
3:35 「今なら君を赦してあげる」マジで好き！！！！！
it's funny that people think this is an anime when there's clearly "music video" in the title of the video
Ну блин я русская и не особо хорошо знаю английский по этому я тоже подумала что это аниме
It is still anime, anime is short for animation, it is an animated music video with plot
The demands for MILGRAM to become an anime series though. The first trial ain’t even finished yet lmao
@@emmaverdeoshi6228 Help you're right
@@emmaverdeoshi6228 Wait really!!😳
ミコトくんの怖さを怪しさ怖さMAXで表現してるのさすがすぎる！曲もMVも歌声もミコトくんワールド全開で！！！鳥肌！！！
Really happy that Milgram is gaining more attention but I really hope that Tiktok won't ruin this or anything since I really love Milgram
TikTok has ruined the genshin fandom and attacked too many Asian creators by sending death threats and false accusations. May the fandom be only a little damaged by TikTokers
@@kittyythecat they gonna be down bad for mikoto and make him innocent like with shidou (God forbid that they find out how to vote). But what im predicting is that if mikoto DOES get voted guilty, then these thirsty ppl are gonna start sending threats to people that voted him guilty. The End.
@@aloafofbread4026 Idk, doesn't seem like they're voting a lot yet luckily
no one show em how to vote
@@GE-0530RN it's easy to know with a lil bit of logic. i found milgram myself just because of tiktok, but this fandom seems amazing and I don't want it to be toxic. i've already seen so many comments comparing mikoto with chifuyu from tokrev and it's so upsetting
i miss u princess
i absolutely love how the two emotions that mikoto and his alter is split into, is in the music. At one moment, there is a hard guitar and drums, making it sound like hard rock, and at another time, it is kind, gentle, and almost seems absolutely harmless.
考察と言うほどではないけど、二重人格なのを前提として、主人格は実は殺人してる方で、自分の方が後に作られた人格だと自覚した穏やかな方が自分について考えているうちに主人格の方に取り込まれていってるとかだと面白いなー…なんて。
Hanae Natsuki's voice sounds amazing here! This song is amazing!
Fellow Hanae Natsuki enjoyer o7
@@yumemitai612 _* tips hat *_ what good taste we have
最初のミコトくんとドアップで心臓がもたない
ゆっくりしたテンポが主人格でやべーほうが、別人格っていう考察がある中で
人を殺してる方が主人格で、それを人に隠すためにゆっくりしたテンポの方の人格を作ったと思ってる( ˇωˇ )
この一曲で、ミコトの優しさと怖さがミルフィーユになってて、何度聴いても飽きない
例えがすごい()
前の動画で言われていた『二重人格説』が合っているのか、それともそう感じさせるように演じているのか…
個人的に一番謎に感じているミコトくんの曲、楽しみ。
そういやタイトル「MeMe」
「Me」は英語で”自分”を意味しますが、それが2つ…
”自分”が2つ=二重人格ってことですかね？
代わりばんこ脳を揺らせって歌詞から二重人格なのかなって思いました！
これは流石に二重人格であった時期は少なからずありそう……無かったらこのMV、ひいてはミコトの第一審ってなんだったんだよってなるので…(笑)
私的にはミコトは他の人格に殺人の責任を押し付けてる…って感じがする……
ボイスドラマがあるのですが聞いてみるとおおおおお…！ってなりますのでもしよかったら是非…
@@奈菜々 自分は｢ミーム｣の方かと思いました。
ミームは、脳内に保存され、他の脳へ複製可能な情報(ウィキペディアより引用)なので、ミコトが殺した中の一人の意識が乗り移って、二重人格になったのでは？と思いました。失礼致しました。
WAIT IMG I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING, in mikoto biodata, he prefer to smoke with electronic cigarettes/vape but in 2:49 John is smoking with normal cigarettes which means that both of them have different preference
Mikoto demonises his split personality; so when the Milgram reads his thoughts, it creates a video that shows how he interprets those actions. As far as we know, the 'other' Mikoto could have had completely justifiable reasons same as Kotoko or Shidou, but we only see the 'good' Mikoto's perspective in this song, and he is terrified of himself.
I've heard people say that his second trial song "Double" might be from the perspective/thoughts of his alter. This should be interesting...
@@Rednodge_9 Fr
I have a feeling they made this character, one side completely innocent and the other undeniably unforgivable (yet hot to add some spice) to see if people will side with the main personality or the alter
さわやかに歌ってるとこ
サイコ感あって好き…
ミコト考察
まだ第一審の「MeMe」は投稿されて
ないんですが現状の考察をおはなし
します。まず、公式の説明文、ここには
常識人とかかれています。そして１番
気になるところ「いやぁ、本当に
わかんないんだよね。僕は一体なんの罪を
犯したっていうんだろう。」という
セリフ。記憶が、ないような反応
なんです。でも記憶喪失でもないよう
です。、、、 それではもう少し公式文を
みていきましょう！
「夜中になってもミコトの監獄からは
物音がするため…」
この文も大切になってくるとおもいます。
それではそろそろ考察にはいりますよぉーーー！
このことから考えてミコトは夢遊病
だと思うんです。
夢遊病は意識はないのに歩きまわったり、喋ったりしてしまいます。
その上記憶ものこりません。
ミコトは知らず間に人を殺してしまった
と考えられるんです！夢遊病の原因
としては 睡眠不足 生活リズムの乱れ
過労によるストレス 薬による副作用
アルコールの影響 です。ミコトは23才
なのでどれもありえます。そして
「アンダーカバー」の2:08～のシーン。
ミコトは4番目のやつですね。これは、、
パソコンと資料ですかね？コップ、
カレンダー、付箋、本などがあることを
みるかぎり仕事でしょうか？それとも
大学のレポート？そして、大切なのは
ミコトのポーズ。これは寝ている、
もしくは前かがみになってなにかをして
いる体制です。寝ている の場合はこれも
大切な伏線だったということに、、、？
こんなかんじでしょうか？
「MeMe」のMVをみるのが楽しみです！
以上、現時点でのミコトの考察でした！
夢遊病じゃなく二重人格説のほうが
あっているのかもしれませんけど、、、)
ｳﾜｧｧｧｧｧ
夢遊病の説バカくそ押したい………………
うわ・・・天才すぎて・・・
2:16 ミコトの労働環境が良くないってことを知ったらここからの歌詞が刺さるな。「ニセモノ」って歌ったあと息が切れてるし、精神的に追い詰められている感じが出てる。これもう思い切って会社辞める必要があるかな…努力して入ったって感じのこと言ってたから苦しいと思うけど
congrats to mikoto kayano for having the best 1st trial song
I don't think he's lying to himself or has anything that "blurs the line" between what is forgivable or not forgivable, I think he's a master manipulator and that Mikoto WANTS us to think that he has something that makes him forgivable whether its dissociative amnesia or DID or anything.
Throughout the MV there are two "types" of Mikoto's singing, but at 2:11 , the soft version bleeds into the harder version, so to me that means that he's aware of his crimes. Also him saying "I will never forgive you even though I'm right" and "Why am I even here" does not speak of a man who doesn't know what he's done, but more of a man who knows what he's done but is trying to convince the audience that he is innocent.
My biggest reason for this is for his behaviour from 2:58 to 3:11, where he is "explaining" that he has nothing to do with this, but he doesn't even blink, almost like it is rehearsed.
Either way I'm just glad its not another suicide song
i couldnt get over the part at 2:58 personally, hes so fidgety and all-smiles, as if hes trying too hard to seem friendly, and the fidgety-ness just makes it feel so much like hes lying.
i spoke with my friends about the 'why am i here?' line, and we all came to the agreement that its not really about why hes in milgram or forgetting things, but essentially, 'why did this situation spiral into what it is now?'. i personally think that MIkoto killed once, maybe by accident, but he felt the urge to do it again, and again, and again, and over time he created a persona of an innocent him to feel like his killings were justifiable, like a 'well theres no way *i* could do that!'
sorry for the reply, i just heavily agree with what youre saying and wanted to share too. definitely think hes some kind of pathological liar of some kind
still my favortite character tho and i have no (lots of) shame
Nah I don't think it's possible. The whole milgram progrma is suppose to be a visualisztion/songification of theor mind
If he truly were a manipulator his pv would show that from start to finish lol
GUYS CONSIDER MY WORDS EATEN
これだ、ぶっ刺さったと思って投票見に行ったら赦さないが圧倒的で笑った。
2:58 has to be the most memable part of all of milgram and its in possibly the most gruesome mv
一曲の中でも全然違う人が歌ってるみたい。二重人格の説はやっぱりありそうだよね。
そう思わせてるだけだったら凄いし、実際そういう事件もあったな…
Memeの意味は遺伝子によらず、模倣によって人から人へと伝えらえる情報の単位。
模倣の
意味は自分で工夫して作り出すのでなく、既にできているものをまねること(両方とも調べさせていただきました)
このコメントナイス(≧∇≦)b
ヘビメタが始まったと思ったらサビ花畑で思わず笑っちゃったわ
ミコト君...............君…面白いね……
I’ve been listening to this song on loop for the past three days.
SAME
me when i first got into milgram😭😭 its tradition
ミコトはミルグラムのシステム上｢赦す｣か｢赦さない｣か裁かれる側なのに｢赦さないよ｣とか｢赦してあげる｣とか言ってるのめちゃくちゃ好き。
めちゃくちゃ、好き。
Привет тебе японец 🗿 или японка🗿
私も！
@@TomRiddleMyBoy こんにちはロシア人！
@@lyyssa33_ попробуй написать на русском, пожалуйста🙏 я не понимаю.
つまりめっちゃ好きって事ですねわかります
2 months of nande boku ga koko ni iru no
Pretty much.
one year of nande boku ga koko ni iru no
@@angel1cbunn1esx 647 days of nande boku ga koko ni iru no
@@peonykit603915600 hours of nande boku ga koko ni iru no
@@caratpachu 936000 minutes of nande boku ga koko ni iru no
待ってました！サムネ怖い雰囲気がある…
やっぱり花江夏樹の声が好きだな
この曲、伸びが凄い笑
癖になるからめっちゃ聞いちゃうのは分かる、
考察とかしてみたいんですけど、考察とかより花江さんの歌声が最高過ぎて、考察どころじゃなくなってしまいました。優しい歌声も激しめなかっこいい歌声もどっちも大好きです（きもい
そしてミコトのビジュが好きです凄く
サビまでの人格とサビの人格はもちろん歌い方全然違うんだけど最後の大サビがさらにその2人の中間のような歌い方ではなちゃんやっぱりすごいわってなりました✨闇が深いミコトくん
今日で投稿されて3年が経つね！今でも毎日聴いてます！大好きですミルグラム ！！