Wilson SFX9 railed vs Nighthawk Counselor.

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  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
  • I’m Showing the difference between the Wilson SFX9 railed and the night I Counselor along with the Wilson EDCX name and a new gun I just picked up. It’s a Cheely custom 9mm

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  • @tberkoff
    @tberkoff 2 роки тому +1

    Welcome back! Love your review videos. Very helpful.

  • @thomashall41
    @thomashall41 2 роки тому +2

    Great to see some more videos. Even though I have a Wilson Sentinel that's about perfect that Nighthawk calls my name. That Cheely Custom at the end looked interesting too. Always enjoy your videos and taste in firearms.

  • @jaceprovo
    @jaceprovo 2 роки тому +8

    Just as an update I bought a 3.25 inch SFX nine with an optic cut and put an RMR on it. This is identical to my nighthawk. I’m really dialed in with the nighthawk and Wilson shoots differently. After a few hundred rounds I had my very experienced 1911 gunsmith drop the trigger to 2 1/2 pounds. My night Hawk, after 4000 rounds, is pretty much the same as the SFX nine now on the Lyman gauge. It’s taking me a while to get as accurate but I’m finally getting there after 1000 rounds.
    The Wilson is the most comfortable carry firearm I’ve ever had. The counselor is extremely comfortable, don’t get me wrong, but the Wilson… You can’t even feel it. Every corner is rounded beautifully. The Wilson is the only 1911, and I own a bunch of them, that I can literally break down with no tools whatsoever. The counselor needs some thing to push out the slide stop. Not true on the Wilson. My rear site finally had to be lockedtid into place after shaking free twice. Don’t use it anyway as I shoot a red dot. the dot and the sides are perfectly aligned right out of the box. Finally, I have not had a single hiccup in firing the Wilson. Not a hanger, failure the battery, stove pipe, nothing. The counselor is marginally smaller but I can easily carry the Wilson. And 16 rounds is a lot in acarry gun.

  • @Sourpusscandy
    @Sourpusscandy 2 роки тому +2

    Holy cow that collection! I call it the Hoover Effect, like the Coolidge Effect but with guns! I’d buy that sfx9 off ya!

  • @DavidV4444
    @DavidV4444 2 роки тому +7

    I have 7 Wilson’s (5 stainless full size 1911’s and 2 EDC X9’s) - I truly think Wilson makes the best guns on the planet and of course Nighthawk is phenomenal (I just ordered a Bull stainless rail full size). I have been thinning my collection down to Wilson and soon Nighthawk - they are just so good and that Wilson service and support is incredible.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      Well I can’t argue with you on that opinion. 👍🏻

  • @chltmdwp
    @chltmdwp Рік тому

    This guy is loaded with money! love the garage.

  • @sweetooth133
    @sweetooth133 2 роки тому +2

    Nothin better then fine pistols. Thanks for posting.

  • @HighRoad317
    @HighRoad317 2 роки тому +1

    Great comparison.

  • @cjwaters431
    @cjwaters431 2 роки тому

    You could always contact customer service about the color of the slide. Really great service by Wilson’s

  • @KeanonGilliamSlang369
    @KeanonGilliamSlang369 2 роки тому

    Really nice firearms!

  • @wilf6384
    @wilf6384 11 місяців тому

    Love my EDC X9 and I like it more than my Staccato C2, only drag is optics ready variants for the Wilson are impossible to get and if you send your slide out to Wilson to have it cut for their true zero system, you’re gonna wait about 6 to 8 months. Found a guy here in Ohio that can do my optics cut in less than 6 weeks and cerakote the slide OD Green for me so I’ll pick up the green grips in the interim and count the days until I get my favorite gun back.
    I have the 3.25” EDC X9 and I absolutely love the size and once the optic is installed I’ll have my dream gun. Thanks for the content brother, you have great taste in pistols my friend

    • @marku123
      @marku123 10 місяців тому

      Im here in Ohio with an sfx9 3.25". I want to put an optic on it, who did it for you?

  • @craigarias93
    @craigarias93 2 роки тому

    What kind of recoil spring does the nighthawk counselor use?

  • @bobthebuildaa
    @bobthebuildaa 2 роки тому

    Are the back straps customizable on the Wilson?

  • @justincurtis9631
    @justincurtis9631 2 роки тому +1

    I love my sfx9 but I shoot it low too.. even swapped the sights from fiber optic to tritium. Wilson only offers one size... Still the same thing. My edcx9 is spot on tho. Awesome videos... awesome collection

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      I changed the rear sight to a Dawson Novak adjustable and now I’m spot on. That’s the key for me…adjustable rear.

    • @michaell397
      @michaell397 Рік тому

      That seems to be an ongoing complaint with the Wilsons. Odd that they still haven't addressed the issue.
      KnifeMaker

  • @Panda-ho7ef
    @Panda-ho7ef Рік тому +1

    I like the two tone

  • @wesleyhobbs9
    @wesleyhobbs9 10 місяців тому

    I appreciate the video. This is my first time seeing any of your videos or your channel. You did a great job. I am currently thinking about an SFX9 myself. I’m looking at the 15 rounds full size grip with a 3.25 inch barrel. I am considering getting it without the red dot because it’s going to be a carry gun, and I don’t see a need for a red dot for a carry gun, especially when I will not be shooting past 15 yards. Also the red dot I believe would make it more complicated to find a holster. I would appreciate you elaborating more on your experience with this firearm. Now that you’ve had it a while, have you figured out why are you shoot low? I have noticed other people on the Internet and on UA-cam complaining about shooting low for some reason. Some people say they shoot low even with a red dot? Have you been able to remedy the situation? Also have you had any issues with any parts coming loose or needing to Loctite anything? That is another concern some people have mentioned. And has it been accurate and ran flawlessly?

  • @Baltimoreborn
    @Baltimoreborn 2 роки тому

    Life goals 👍

  • @skaight9
    @skaight9 Рік тому

    4in variants would you choose EDCX9 or SFX9 and why?

  • @spencerford2608
    @spencerford2608 Рік тому

    I know this video is old but as it seems quite a bit of people have both I thought I'd try a question?? I have an edc x9 and a counselor, is the sfx9's grip angle more like a 1911? I shoot both well but even with the large back strap on the edc x9 it still doesn't feel like a 1911 grip, both in angle and bore height. Is the SFX9 grip any different???

  • @TheBandit59
    @TheBandit59 Рік тому

    I’m
    ordering a Counselor , I was thinking
    of no Optics cut this time, DLC Slide , anodized frame, ( because it is aluminum), trijicon HD’s, DLC’ed small parts , is there anything you would add?

  • @justinwilson16
    @justinwilson16 Рік тому

    Getting sfx 3.25, fiber optic or night sights..? I go back and forth

  • @brianhoole5753
    @brianhoole5753 2 роки тому

    Well done.

  • @mikejones8132
    @mikejones8132 2 роки тому +1

    I was curious about your experience with Dave’s Custom Gunsmith 2011. I am interested in placing an order but can’t find much information/reviews on him.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      Great. I’ve got 3 of his guns and they are all awesome. Great service too.

  • @TheBandit59
    @TheBandit59 Рік тому

    What holster do you like for the Counselor?

  • @Ughthisagain
    @Ughthisagain Рік тому

    Got a link to the holster mentioned?

  • @Philly1958
    @Philly1958 2 роки тому +4

    I have had both guns and chose to keep the Wilson sfx9. Capacity was important but more so was the lack of a grip safety on the Wilson.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      I agree. I decided to keep all 3 but I love the SFX9.

  • @TheBandit59
    @TheBandit59 11 місяців тому

    I ordered a Counselor , and it’s a good ways to be built ; But I really like the SFT, not for the capacity , but the thin ness. I have never been a capacity guy , but a first accurrate hits in a gunfight .I did not like the Staccotto P, the way it fit in my hand; but also my ULC, was missing two
    standard. and two added festures, yet was signed off by a page of Wilson Combat Gunsmiths , then the lady that runs customer service got nasty with me three times unprovoked, at that point I went Night Hawk , and this is the first time I looked back? WilsonCombat has been living off Bill Wilson’s name far too long . my
    daily carrie’s are a Wilson Combat ULC, a night hawk carry plus in .45, and a Shadow Hawk commander in .45, great video, great comparison, i’ll subscribe

  • @highlyopinionatedpodcast
    @highlyopinionatedpodcast 2 роки тому +1

    Damn can I be you when I grow up lol nice guns 🔥

  • @FirearmEnthusiast
    @FirearmEnthusiast 2 роки тому +1

    It's a bit odd hearing someone be vocal about a dislike for two-tone firearms. All of my favorite guns are two-tone black and gray ironically.
    Wonderful display of firearms. I have been eyeballing the Counselor/Delegate as my next purchase. Looking for a carry 1911.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      I know, it’s a taste thing I suppose. Just not my style.

  • @interestingarms
    @interestingarms 2 роки тому

    Now that you've had them a little longer any other insights on the SFX9 vs the Counselor? I have a EDCX9 and trying top decide between the two and probably leaning towards the Wilson. Also considering the Staccato C.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +2

      Well, I sold the Staccato C cause the Counselor is so nice I didn’t shoot the C anymore but the Wilson is 15 rounds and shoots just as well. It’s hard to decide on one or the other.

    • @interestingarms
      @interestingarms 2 роки тому

      @@JayMacklin Thanks!

  • @lenholt7419
    @lenholt7419 Рік тому

    Popped up in my feed while researching Wilson. The X9 series, you pick the model, is to me a heck of an upgrade over polymer. The thing is it appears to be very successful. I hope Wilson doesn't go the way of a lot of polymers. There are several all metal hammer fired pistols out there that are excellent choices at half the cost. i leave the value choice up to you. About the finish. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found that the finish treatment process is unique. I have considered the all Armor Tuff with choices of color options. If I need a super duper fancy cerakote pattern $$$. I'll pick that. The DLC is intriguing. DLC coatings.with Wilson are applied only to Steel. The steel is first parkerized then the DLC applied. The Aluminum is Nitride coated before any other finish. Wilson sends out for the DLC coating work. This is where I get a bit hung up. I've read that DLC can be applied to non ferrous metals, Aluminum fits that. Why Wilson does not do that is a question. I've seen DLC coated pistols with 3k plus round counts that are consistently carried. They look brand new. Its the process of applying the DLC. Think the same type of coating on a lot of AR bolts. As you can surmise, this struck a nerve on my consideration for this line from Wilson. Great vid. Sorry to be long winded.

  • @awokeone7997
    @awokeone7997 2 роки тому +4

    The Counselor by far is the best looking one but with only 9-10 rds and no rail, just makes no sense to keep. Nice collection by the way.

    • @claudiohysi9203
      @claudiohysi9203 2 роки тому

      In connecticut 10 round is the new black . As far as rail . The person that buys this is not ur usual guy with rmr or rmo .This is for a person that dont want optic just straight flush .

    • @awokeone7997
      @awokeone7997 2 роки тому

      @@claudiohysi9203 I get it but why not offer one with what's the present and future of pistols? Rmr/Holosun/Arco.

  • @tberkoff
    @tberkoff 2 роки тому +1

    Do you own any full size 1911s? Would love to see these and similar comparison videos.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      I don’t. Had a few but I am looking at a few now.

  • @sniper4rt437
    @sniper4rt437 2 роки тому

    They are all beautiful guns. I would keep all of them, but if you’re set on getting rid of one I would keep the one your most accurate with.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +1

      Decided to keep them all. Great advice.

  • @SkipsGunz
    @SkipsGunz 2 роки тому

    Iv gota few DSCGunworks guns I love his builds you got some great taste. Love to callab one day

  • @vrcmf3172
    @vrcmf3172 2 роки тому +1

    I’m looking to buy a Bul Armory SAS UL-2 wanted to ask how it shoots with hollow points… have seen it shot with ball amo and wanted to know your experience with it before I bought the gun.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +1

      So far it shoots great. I have no issue with 115gr all the way to 147gr hollow points.

    • @vrcmf3172
      @vrcmf3172 2 роки тому +1

      @@JayMacklin thank you! Found your channel recently and went on a binge… hope you post more gun collection videos… your channel will blow up! All the best

  • @jaceprovo
    @jaceprovo 2 роки тому

    I’m less concerned about the slide length than I am about the grip. I carry a counselor with the nine round mag. Is the Wilson grip about the same length? What is the width of the Wilson grip versus nighthawk?

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      Great question! That’s exactly why I sold my Counselor. The grip width and length is almost identical.

  • @Cinccinatti_C3
    @Cinccinatti_C3 2 роки тому +1

    Man I started watching your channel recently and I commend your taste! I just wish I could afford them. I like the Staccato but want the Bul Armory Ultralight next and then the staccato C2. Can you provide the link for your holsters.

  • @TheBandit59
    @TheBandit59 Рік тому

    one of the problems I have with WC is that I had ordered an ULC, and several features ordered and standard , where missing from it, and it was signed off by a page of gunsmiths .it made me think
    WC guns were not really custom
    but production, I started buying Night Hawk and never looked back, especially since the lady that ran customer service was nasty to me with out reason, after I had spent about 4,500$

  • @robertbraden461
    @robertbraden461 Рік тому +1

    There are two separate firearms markets in the US. For California, New York, Mass and several other states that restrict magazine capacity, the 15 round capacity is not relevant. In those states the traditional 7 or 8 round single stack is still the most desirable concealed carry. Fat double stack magazines pinned to only hold 10 rounds are a waste.

  • @GooglyEyes73
    @GooglyEyes73 2 роки тому +5

    Yeah, that 2 tone needs to go. Send it to me for proper disposal.

    • @CZ9mmUSA
      @CZ9mmUSA Рік тому

      Good Call! B9USA Sr.

    • @cvshav
      @cvshav 10 місяців тому

      Haha

  • @BruceCross
    @BruceCross Рік тому +2

    The Wilson SFX9 has a two-tone finish because of the aluminum frame and stainless steel slide.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  Рік тому +2

      You’re right. Didn’t realize that when I bought it 👍🏻

  • @Kawboy65
    @Kawboy65 2 роки тому

    I'm trying to decide between the SFX9 with the 15 round frame vs the 10 round frame. Any thoughs?

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +1

      If you have normal size to large hands go with the 15 round SFX9. I had 2 other X9S’s because I like the gun so much but just couldn’t grip the gun. Had 2 fingers hanging over the bottom of the 10 round.

    • @Kawboy65
      @Kawboy65 2 роки тому

      @@JayMacklin Thank you for the reply. Does the grip feel the same with the 15 round frame vs the 10 round frame with the optional 15 round magazine installed? I have medium-sized hands, Mechanix Wear size 9, medium gloves fit me perfectly. I am thinking the 10 round frame would work with the pinky extension, but if that makes it the same size as the 15 round frame then might as well just go with the bigger frame.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +1

      @@Kawboy65 I think it could feel ok for you with the extension. For me it was more comfortable with the 15 round version vs the 15 round extension but also didn’t like the look of the 15 round extension with that gap

    • @Kawboy65
      @Kawboy65 2 роки тому

      @@JayMacklin Thanks for the insight.

    • @chrisg1038
      @chrisg1038 2 роки тому +1

      @@Kawboy65 I have large hands and own both, EDC X9 and X9s. Of course the X9 fits perfectly in my hand, the X9s with the 15 round mag is a very good fit also and gives me the option to use the 10 round mag in the summer for better concealment. I would suggest you try them out in person.

  • @tomtran9442
    @tomtran9442 2 роки тому +3

    WC over Nighthawk any day. Time to look into Cabot if you haven’t already. =)

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +1

      I agree. I ended up selling the nighthawk. The round count and shoot ability of the Wilson tipped the scale for me.

  • @samkp1342
    @samkp1342 2 роки тому +1

    It's a great video. Between staccato c and Nighthawk Counselor which one should I choose?

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      Price or performance?

    • @samkp1342
      @samkp1342 2 роки тому

      @@JayMacklin performance

    • @samkp1342
      @samkp1342 2 роки тому +1

      @@JayMacklin I have edcx9

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +2

      @@samkp1342 Counselor. It’s just made better.

  • @DLW23940
    @DLW23940 Рік тому

    Have you tried swapping slides between the edcx9 and the sfx9?

    • @randolph6511
      @randolph6511 7 місяців тому

      Bill Wilson says that they are interchangeable.

    • @DLW23940
      @DLW23940 7 місяців тому

      @@randolph6511 I tried, they are not

  • @petermacander5039
    @petermacander5039 Рік тому

    The SFX 9, despite 3 holes cut out of the trigger, no light rail, and aluminum frame, is still pretty heavy @ 4.4 lbs without bullets and NOT significantly lighter than the 4" EDC X9.

  • @GolfRemoEchoGolf2
    @GolfRemoEchoGolf2 2 роки тому

    Should check out Tucker gun leather in Texas

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I have three of their holsters. I really enjoy the DC1, DC 2 and DC3 hybrid leather holsters

  • @JayMacklin
    @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +1

    Of the 3 what do you like?

    • @ChillWill2050
      @ChillWill2050 2 роки тому +1

      I love your collection, I really love how you have diversified your edc. The Nighthawk is nice, I’m curious how all of those weapons stack up to each other. This is a comparison video! I would love for you to go more into depth on the above guns.

    • @ChillWill2050
      @ChillWill2050 2 роки тому +1

      The Wilson Combat 2011 vs that other 2011 would be one hell of a conversation.

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      @@ChillWill2050 agreed. I’ll do that next.

    • @Teadrinker710
      @Teadrinker710 2 роки тому

      As someone who has the X9 and counselor I would say the SFX9 is the odd man out. If I want capacity I’ll take the X9 if I want a nice thin super easy conceal carry I’ll take the counselor. People don’t realize how much of a difference the integrated magwell makes until you hold them side by side

  • @Philmoscowitz
    @Philmoscowitz 10 місяців тому

    Two tone? Do you mean the difference between the slide and the frame, or are you saying the slide is two-toned? If it's the latter, you can't tell from your video that it's two toned.

  • @WiIdbiII
    @WiIdbiII 2 роки тому

    While I wouldn't turn down any of these if given to me , let's be honest , if you can afford to carry pistols that cost this , you probably don't work in the badder part of town or even drive through it. They'd make great safe Queens or shooting range guns or something a Brain surgeon or banker carries in their briefcase.

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 Рік тому

    I have a Wilson SuperGrade M1911 5" and two NH, including the Councilor and frankly the workmanship of the NightHawk is a bit better....

  • @wealthessential4515
    @wealthessential4515 2 роки тому +2

    Nighthawk got to go only 10 rounds and no rail.. I love hawk but 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @bpri9880
    @bpri9880 2 роки тому +1

    This guy sounds like Seth Rogan 😂😂😂

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому

      Well I look like Tim Allen 🤣

  • @gbullock2598
    @gbullock2598 2 роки тому

    Around $7000 worth of firearms but its only 3 pistols😯

    • @JayMacklin
      @JayMacklin  2 роки тому +1

      🤣 it’s actually closer to $9500

    • @gbullock2598
      @gbullock2598 2 роки тому

      On WC website their listed at $2,895. Around here in north carolina, our shops have them listed at $2,399 - $2,500. The nighthawk is like $3,899. Ive seen them sell for $3,000 at the dixie classic gun and knife show. So thats $8,000. If you buy all of them at one time, these shops will let you walk out with them for $7,000 plus tax. If you pay $9,500 somebody is getting over on you by about $2,000.

    • @gbullock2598
      @gbullock2598 2 роки тому +1

      I cant stand being over charged for anything.

  • @TJ-fz4bi
    @TJ-fz4bi Рік тому

    I don’t have any experience with the Nighthawk but I wouldn’t recommend Wilson Combat products, I bought an EDCX9S that wasn’t reliable and they wouldn’t even agree to bring back for an inspection and test fire to determine cause of the failure to feed after a few magazines. Cleaning fixed it for a couple of magazines but I couldn’t trust it for an EDC or home defense. I would have rather spent a little more to get a Wilson Combat 1911 for range fun only rather than getting a supposedly EDC that’s not reliable and doesn’t have the cool factor of the 1911.

  • @carlosmelendez9342
    @carlosmelendez9342 Рік тому +1

    Must be nice to have to talk about how you just had to have another 3 to 4,000 gun I'm hating I'm over here comparing my HK vp9 to my Walther PDP it's all good keep the videos coming like to dream on having just one of these guns