There Will Never Be Another Yugioh
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- Yugioh has seen its fair share of issues throughout the years. But, if you think about it, there's really no game like it. For all of its flaws, it has an equal amount of greatness. There's a reason why the game continues to grow and to inspire so many people to partake in duels. In today's video, let's talk about why there will never be another game like Yugioh.
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Chapters:
00:00 Growing Unrest
01:10 An Awe-Inspiring Anime
06:02 Unlimited Game Design
09:24 Try Rotating This
13:45 Balance, Always
15:42 Final Remarks
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►Music used:
All music used in this video is in accordance with Nintendo's "Game Content Guidelines for Online Video & Image Sharing Platforms" and or, for the Pokémon stuff, their "DP Sound Libraries Guidelines and Terms of Use". Tracks include:
"Team Galactic Building" from DP | "Route 15 (Day)" from Pokémon X and Y | "Road to Primeval Forest" from Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon | "Route 228 (Night)" from DP | "Aether Paradise" from Pokémon Sun and Moon | "The Great Sea" from The Legend of Zelda - The Wind Waker | "Lush Forest" from Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon | "Champion Cynthia" from DP | "Snowbelle City" from Pokémon X and Y
Very last song is credited to massobeats - mango tea (royalty free lofi music)
#yugioh #masterduel #pktunetalks - Ігри
Who would have thought that a Shonen Manga would become one of the Most Popular Card Games in the World?
This really. I mean the Pokemon phenomenon is even crazier, while both franchises accomplished many amazing things. But yugioh could have been managed better
You know what’s even crazier? The game wasn’t even the main point of the manga. The original story was about gaming in general, and what we know now as Duel Monsters only appeared in a single issue. But it became so popular that they brought it back. It actually derailed the entire series because everyone wanted to see more of this one game specifically. Later issues focused exclusively on duel monsters specifically, which became the game we all love/hate today.
Mtg,Pokémon,
May be in parallel universe the card game isnt as popular and the manga could showcase more variety of games to live up the meaning of its name
One of the best parts of Yu-Gi-Oh is the deckbuilding because you could have the most fire idea for a deck and go to town and if you're missing a piece, there's 10000+ cards there HAS to be a card that'll help round out your deck if its something reasonable and the best part is it's probably some random card printed in 2013
It always makes me smile when a random card from 15 years ago is suddenly relevant because of a specific niche in modern format (Foolish return, Testudo Erat Numen, Shock Troops of the Ice barrier, among many others).
No other card game does this. For all its flaws, Yugioh has some truly great moments.
Oh, this is so true. I talked about decks, but I agree that having one special card resurface for a format is so fun. There's also the option that a deck that counters the current format resurfaces (bad example, but Evilswarms were okay into Dragon Rulers back in 2013-2014).
ever played any other TCG? I mean with magic in specific formats you have that also for example ...
Most of yugioh is just playing whatever is current.
@@Zanji1234 assuming this question is directed at me: the main games I've played are PKMN, One Piece, Runeterra, Hearthstone, and Flesh and Blood. I understand Magic does have alternative formats where you can play with a ton of older cards. Though, I was trying to argue that Yugioh having its central defining format being timeless is kind of unique.
I do acknowledge that some of the individual arguments that I've made in the video overlap with other card games. Main point is that all of these factors in tandem make Yugioh special. If you disagree with me though, I would love to hear it! Discussions like these are nice to have - it's just fun to talk about these hobbies we enjoy.
@@pk_tuneworld :-D well i wasn't direct my comment at you but the "well ygo has an eternal format" is imho a weak point. Considering Power Creep and Bannings exist ...ygo does kinda have a rotation every few sets when a new set totally outperforms every other deck that is currently available and while you can play your old Gladiator beast Deck you have played 15 years ago or so... they will not make any dent even on local level due to power creep and even WITH new "retro stuff" (which for me is like "hey look you remember xyz? you can play that now again!)
Turn 5 (Opponent's Turn)
Opponent: Has Unchained Abomination. LP 400. No cards in Hand.
Me: No cards on field or in hand. LP 300.
Turn 6 (My Turn)
Me: Draws Monster Reborn. Special Summon: my Borrelsword Dragon from grave.
Opponent: Does not surrender. Accepts the Battle.
Despite there being no means of communication like exchanging Reactions as you can do in PokemonTCG Online, Chat or even RockPaperScissors pre-duel;
somehow I believe across the distance and languages we both were playing that game said to ourselves at the end, "Good Game. 👍".
Love moments like these! Like, I won't get mad if someone early scoops when they know the game is over just to move on quickly to the next. But those times where me or my opponent just accept the losing game state and let the other play it out is a satisfying pseudo-GG.
I don't scoop since I'm still rewarded at the end, but also it's to show my opponent that they deserved that win. Plus sometimes you may be able to turn it around.
I do the same! Especially on those grindy, well played matches. I really feel that my opponent deserves that attack and have your LP turn to zero.
Turns dont last 6 turns anymore
3 at best
Translation: MD needs the Duel Links "Nice!" button
"But what about Cardfight Vanguard?"
My answer: Which one? The OG through G? The V series? The Overdress one? OR THE NEW ONE?! YEA... This card game had too many resets.
It's still a notable counterpoint that can be brought up against my points about the anime. I think the main thing that separates Yugioh from Vanguard (outside of those resets, yes), is the other reasons I discuss in the video. Each individual point definitely overlaps with one other card game at the least, though combine them together and that makes Yugioh special.
@@pk_tuneworld I agree. I never played Cardfight Vanguard but I did enjoy the anime... until the V Series introduce that weird Magical Girl thing and I was like "So G remake?" and then they did Overdress and I'm like "OKAY..." and I never looked back. It's how I feel about Rush Duel animes but worse. It's not my Yugioh. I figure since Konami does care for this game; that they could have done like a movie or something on a Yugioh series or 2 or more to show the respect it deserves but I also remember they just care for money.
My only hope is the Chronicle series and hope it becomes real. People shouldn't forget that the Yugioh anime, at least DM to Vrains, is that good. Sometimes NOT that good but other times just hits SO GOOD and gets kids to enjoy the card game to play for fun. That's how important an anime should be... again, can't say the same for Rush Duel animes.
To be fair, DivineZ isn't a new format, it's a continuation of the D era (hence why cards from the DivineZ sets still have just D at the bottom left), with the change in the anime name being due to a change in cast, what with Akina being the main character now and all
@@ThatPHGuy it's not D without dress...
Love the positivity, it’s what’s been missing in the game and it’s so nice to hear someone highlight the good instead of the bad for once
I love zexal so going 0-5 at locals each week makes me resonate a lot and feel like im living the dream /jk
Me and you both, me and you both
Bro's feeling the flow!
I want to add there are no yugioh clones, the only other card games are all magic the gathering clones no matter how they look...
There is one vr game plays just like yugioh but sadly not very popular
And in Japan, Duel Masters clones.
When I play Digimon Card Game my mind always goes to "Man, I could be playing Duel Masters and do some unfair nonsense right about now".
Yugioh has always been my interest ever since I watched every old Yugioh anime during my childhood. I'll look forward to the journey I have with the love I have for it, since Yugioh taught me a lot, and those passionate moments I've had with the duels, will live on in me. Thank you, Takahashi-sensei, I hope you know that everyone still treasures Yugioh very much
Yes, Yugioh is unique in being the only anime to use the game it promotes in the actual series. You can pick up things about the game by watching the show itself, you relate to the show when you play the game, and when you play a card, your mind may drift back to the first time it appeared in the series.
I guess that's true if you ignore all of the other anime that did that too
The fact that Yugioh animes ARE the Yugioh game makes a HUGE difference. I can't watch the Pokemon anime much because it bugs me when they throw out the rules for something stupid ("aim for the horn!").
As someone who enjoys the Pokemon franchise and main games, I can see the appeal of the anime. But yeah, Yugioh just hits so much different. It's just a different vibe.
The homies know this was a reupload
It's a re-upload. Man I knew I've seen this before.
Got me questioning my memory again
😮 bro got caught.
As much as I complain about YGO and get anxiety from the thought of reading cards I’m unfamiliar with while I’m playing at locals, I think YGO being so insane relative to other card games is part of the charm and big defining characteristic of for me
MAN YES, I so get it. I mourned the rushed end of Vrains because RUSH was not giving me my dose of good ol YGO vibes. Miss also the crazy hairstyles and long coats 😢😂
Hopefully one day...
I love the fact that yugioh doesn’t have a “standard” format. You can use any card going all the way back to magic ruler all the way up to their latest release as long as it’s not on the ban list.
Your right about everything I love us as a community
The feeling of ost from the anime while i plsy eith friends is a deeling ill never get anywhere else
I have a good story for this actually. Me and my friends were playing our draft format and one of my friends drafted Synchrons. There was one game where he saved himself thanks to Sphere Kuriboh and was able to Junk Speeder combo the following turn for game. You bet he was playing Yusei's theme on his phone speaker during that moment!
Right now the main issue is card prices,, people just can’t afford to play the game unfortunately and with literally a new set every month (sometimes 2) plus tins structures etc it’s burning out the player base,, and to top it all off the tcg rarity system makes everything and the prices even worse which prices people out of the game
I know I personally can’t keep up with all these new flippin sets they drop, I stopped buying any kind of boxes or packs, even though I like opening them because it’s just not sustainable or affordable to be doing that every month when you need like 12 boxes just to get *most* not even all of the cards you need is just absurd.
I only buy battles of legend every year and like 1 other really good set from the year and that’s it and mostly onoy because I do just like opening packs,
but nothing else because it’s just not worth it anymore when I can just buy the deck cheaper than one single box of packs costs
The only way they’d get me to start buying sealed product again is if they bring the OCG rarity model to TCG
Then I would buy 1-3 boxes every single set hands down, but not unless they changed the rarity system
Yeah, I don't like buying product that often anymore either. It feels like it's usually better to just buy singles at this point unless there's a really cool set (e.g. this year's Battle of Legends). As you say, too many sets drop per year, and some of them are really bad versus others. I'm glad Konami is finally bringing some OCG rarities over via Rarity Collection, though having a rarity model like OCG would definitely shake things up.
Ayyo thats my point of playing yugioh, i said it to my friend, if my idol is goku i will learn martial art not play Dragonball tcg, if my idol is Ash, ill play Pokemon Go, if my idol is Luffy, ill work on the sea, not play one piece tcg, but my idol is yugi, so it make sense ill play tcg, but my friend doesn't think the same, he said he chose one piece tcg because the card is prettier and he likes waifu. We are all so different
Yeah, everyone has their own reasons for playing either or card game. I'm happy your friend enjoys OP TCG. I'm playing the game very casually and it's incredibly fun! I would agree with your friend that some of the cards do look prettier (especially that game's alt arts) and, similarly to Yugioh with its archetypes, some of the leaders do kinda feel like the iconic characters in the anime. But, man, does Yugioh just hit different.
im facing against tearlaments with an icejade synchro pile deck
opponents is on 2500 lp left with kaleidoheart on field, fairy tail snow in grave and tearlament scream out with its -500 atk debuff already active and its my turn with nothing strong enough to beat over his kaleidoheart due to scream, i do have little aegirine out and aegirocassis in hand so if equipped she will be able to beat over kaleidoheart due to him having used snow already but snow can also shut this avenue down too
- i go and summon accel stardust to access dis pater with the intent to bait at best and crash into kaleidoheart at worst since its 3000 due to scream but opponent doesnt bite so i went and equip aegirine with aegirocassis
- opponent goes for snow in response -> i negate with dis pater but he goes for snow again this time banishing his remaining cards including kaleidoheart (this is important) leaving him with only snow across his hand, grave and field
- aegirine is briefly 9700 atk before his snow triggers flipping aegirine facedown destroying aegirocassis due to having lost its target
- i realize i have karmic justice in my hands now -> activate dis pater summoning his banished kaleidoheart who ends up at 2500 since hes now on my side of the field -> kaleidoheart activates targeting snow returning it to deck leaving opponent with absolutely nothing left anywhere -> kaleidoheart goes for game with exactly 2500 dmg
i will never get something as metaphorically picturesque as this win in any other game
That’s epic win😮
Nice win! And with synchro Icejade of all things - really cool deck! I remember trying to make it work - the fact the water Therion can equip Aegirocasis and then Aegiro can immediately summon itself enables some funny stuff.
@@pk_tuneworld yeh i played around with the aqua therion a bit for some rank 7 plays or ultimaya into crystal wing in the deck and even a variant with kash too but it was really inconsistent and didnt actually synergize with the direction of the deck too well
i call it an icejade synchro pile but it did used some tearlaments itself though just 1 copy of each reino, havnis, scheiren and tear kash while maxing out on grief so it was just a small tear engine mainly used as a backup plan or disruption in rulkallos rather then for the milling but the whole idea of the deck started from trying to find some way to make use of the recently unbanned tidal dragon ruler of waterfall's effect to mill a monster of your choice that wasnt atlantean focus since thats been done to death and back and i sorta just got a bit too creative with it
i later realize that im effectively capitalizing on selective mills with an aqua archetype so tear came naturally, threw atlantean dragoon in just to have a search for the deep sea diva package (another avenue to tear due to prima donna being able summon reino from deck) since ran, tidal and even tinola is all waters that discards for cost and i got a deck that oddly synergizes everywhere, especially tinola though since she can be summoned off of manifestation or the link 2 marincess to bring back a spent rulkallos or prima donna, reino thats been unfairly milled or even water barrier statue
i even had a stint with blackwing sharnga and full armor master too for shits and giggles due to tidal's dumping to access sharnga and the accel stardust combo with diva
i once even pulled off an odd combo using kitkallos as synchro material with lappis dragon to synchro baronne after searching grief then using it to dump 1 of the fusers to get to rulkallos afterwards and the deck even manages to make use of rulkallos' battle protection to aqua since i can pair it with gymir for protection from banish, destruction and battle which is pretty toxic if i throw in water barrier statue
overall deck is surprisingly versatile as hell but can also brick like hell too
I personally loved my collecting the most after l decided to be casual about it. The different card shops having a 10 cent bin for them and MTG helps a lot, too.
No offence to people how grew up with the original series and card game but a lot of newer players haven’t grown up with that old style of play I grew up with 5ds and zexal and although I can’t say I ever played the 20 min combos people do now but it wasn’t that slow pass turn set that is raved in about we had cool combos to get our big epic boss monster that were used in the anime it’s what connected me to the game and I think the game could reach that again
That’s why I think the lack of a new master ruel set duel anime
Same. I saw GX on tv but didn't get invested until 5Ds and didn't play till Zexal. But ArcV and Vrains were a huge help into making me want to try the new mechanics and I was already playing Duel Links when Vrains came out, so I knew about Speed Duels. But even Vrains still has Master Duels and created hype for both formats. The lack of a new Master Duel anime is what makes it hard to get bring in new players and give them the drive to learn the complicated rules to summon their favorite boss monsters.
Heart to heart about a passion I won’t shut up about ! Ok heard you bro 🔥
And what’s sad is that we now have a dub for Yugioh Sevens and soon Go Rush, but there’s no Rush Duel products being sold outside of Japan. We have Rush Duel in Duel Links but it doesn’t give you the full experience of physical Rush Duel. So what’s even the point of dubbing it?
I know man, I love rush duel but I don’t think it will ever reach the states because it has evolved so much over the years so we would forever be behind literal years
Maybe they'll import it eventually? At the very least, I guess it gives English-speaking countries a chance to watch Rush Duels if (1) they are just interested in the series or (2) they played Duel Links and wanted to watch the anime associated with the game's alternative format.
I tried to get back into Yu-gi-oh after many years on duel links. In the first game, the opponents first turn would never end and some how he ended up with a field stacked with high level 8+ monsters and full of face down cards. Quit immediately
Completely fair! There are some people (like me) who are okay with that, but I understand why others wouldn't like it. Glad you gave the game (and this video) a chance at least!
As a metal gear fan yugioh is the only thing konami does even remotely right anymore so I am happy enough i will take back everything if they ever make an MGR sequel
Most of yugioh has been horribly handled
@@DragonBallsolosyourversemodern yugioh, at least
Konami just publishes it. Fortunately. They dont actually make or have control over it. Just the business side
modern yugioh sucks super hard especially in the west. what exactly are they doing remotely right
@@MultiDarkII i don’t really get how it sucks there still putting out new cards and new decks I just don’t play meta and I still have fun
Man Yugioh really feels like the Smash Bros to the TCG’s FGC
kinda offensive to put sexosisters in trash when the deck literally won a ycs in tear format
I definitely relate I started playing galaxy eyes because of kite from yugioh
This gives me EmpLemon vibes, awesome video
Thank you for choosing to watch it!
"2008 btw 16 years ago" really hit hard
I personally love trading card games like Yugioh, Magic, and Pokemon ever since I was a kid. Especially when they were advertised on TV, magazines, and almost every game shop/card shop. Its almost as if anybody can get into playing them no matter how old you were. Nowadays, they're only advertised to specific consumers (basically fans and players) on social media platforms, but not as much or popular enough to be shown to an average person strolling through the internet. The charm of Yugioh in the past was similar to Pokemon, everyone's moms and dads knows about it since it was everywhere.
I’ma be real, I think Sevens has some merit to it, but it is vastly different due to it ushering the start of Rush Duels so i get why people wouldn’t really like it
I still enjoy it though
Gotta love your idea to strive on Yugioh True "Positiveness"!!
I understand Konami is far from being good but they at least are heading to a good direction with More Anime Nostalgia supports, Battlephase oriented Tenpai (with better arts of True "Yugioh monster" not just Gundam, waifus ) and many more.
Hope our players' community actually see and appreciate their effort and strive for more positiveness 🎉 Konami is starting to hear us more and more, why are we leaving the game just because of lenses of competitive scene, let's play our Yubel VS Exodia with our friends just cause we can... (Japan and OCG pricing thrived with latest Guinness Record Participation in Tokyo for a reason)
That extra link tho! That was unbelievable! 😂
yugioh is just the best card game ever made
Im in a similar boat, i love yugioh. On my channel i do cpu vs cpu tournaments loosely on story arcs on the yugioh anime/ manga trying to be as fathful to whats in their deck as possible. I also have a reduel series that is reworking events and bringing in characters from all over. its a fun alternative while we wait for a new anime.
Buddyfight was another Yu-gi-oh it’s show in America half a season was missing and a whole season triple d was gone and they went back up on the last season so there was another attempted Yu-go-oh
I think Digimon might be worth checking out for you. It's an archetype based game without rotation so a lot of the points you made come up. Also there is a currently running official webcomic called Digimon Liberator based on the card game.
Got back into the game since I played Edison back in 2010, the feeling of resolving a 5-chain interaction with my opponent with me coming out on top won't be topped for a while. Modern YGO has it's merits for sure.
love your contents for real
Thanks for choosing to watch it :)
Hate video essays these days, but this is a great angle. Good stuff, king 👑
Ay, thanks for choosing to watch it :D
Love the pokemon music in the background
A bit ironic since the video is about Yugioh, but uhhh :)
My opinion in this kind of topic will always be "make a series about a duelist who wants to be the very best like no one ever was" and run that for a decade or 2.
Where have I heard that line before 🤔
Honestly, would be an easy model. Could even have the protagonist have to collect certain cards along their journey :)
A monster that wanted me to play the game is Clear Wing Synchro Dragon. It just ain't easy to get the heavy hitters out when your main deck is filled with squishy monsters.
I have tried many card games over the years (in digital format mainly because I don't have the finances or now the interest to play in physical format) but Yugioh is the only one I return to no matter the years that pass (I played it in physical format When I was little, I played it on consoles while I was growing up, I played it in duel links until that format became too small for me and I now play it in Master Duel). It's not a perfect game but even at its worst, for me, it's better than the rest at its best.
Pokemon are similar to having pets with powers that you command and that you are friends with whereas in Yu-Gi-Oh there are distinct bonds and there's a human partnership or bond
There will be anotber one. The game has something that is in the DNA that draws people to it.
Completely fair take! Though, I feel like it's hard to replicate one-for-one what Yugioh offers. Maybe you do just introduce another card game without a strict resource limit, no rotation, etcetera. But, the legacy Yugioh has created is hard to overcome IMO
Not really since this was built upon the base of RPG's just like MTG was.
Konami: Mana is for babies.
REAL
The truth that too many deny yugioh would be boring like magic the gathering without the anime
Almost like they were designed to go together or something
Edit: Also we know this isn't true because one of the most common criticisms of DM and GX is that they barely followed the real life rules, so even without an anime the game holds its own. Also just the fact that very few competitive Yu-Gi-Oh players have actually watched the anime.
Im not excited about the chronicles anime. like you said I want to recreate the moments of playing cards.
Yugioh is great love it, one thing I HATE... UA-camr bitching about cards..... they fix and banned a problem and want a witch hunt for a the "next" problem.
I feel like sometimes it's merited. There are definitely some cards that need to be addressed. Though, otherwise, it's fairly easy content. You just pick a problem card and talk about it, and it gets views because some people enjoy those discussions. Can't blame them.
The anime comment on how YGO (Anime) is about duelists playing YGO( The card game) is why I would rather we got more duelist-centered stories instead of animes of card lore in itself. It's still good to have card lore but I feel like if we completelly ignore the duelist-focused animes we'll lose a part of what makes the game so special.
Ive heard rumours that the digimon people are making their next anime about the card game (so following the yu gi oh formula)
I'm not too invested in Digimon, though that sounds cool! I remember having the memory system in Digimon explained to me - it's a really unique concept, and an anime might help bring in new players for sure.
I don't see a Digimon Card Game coming out while Digimon Liberator is still coming out, to be honest. And I wouldn't be surprised if Liberator took at least around a year or so to end.
@@ThatPHGuy I think Digimon Liberator IS the cardgame-based content
My main point was more so that at least until Liberator ends, I doubt we'll be getting a Digimon TCG anime, since it might end up splitting the people's focus and making both of them underperform.
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I only recognized the dark magician from the video graphic. I only care about the old aspects so I agree.
I just came cause I saw the title and I want you to explain "Future Card Buddyfight". I haven't even seen it myself but it definitely looks like it's trying to be yugioh. It even had a main protagonist called Yuga and yugioh made their main protagonist called Yuga AFTER. Just seemed like an interesting comparison
Nice video bro
Hey, thanks for choosing to watch it!
I think YGO peaked with the Synchros. They were pretty much Fusion how it should have been and the Anime was neat too. ALso plenty of archtypes.
I miss those times.
Yugioh needs a new anime. Not a spin off. Not a new extra deck mechanic. Just a new cool and good anime to get kids Into the games again.
Please, no more Extra Deck Summons...
So just the original show, again?
@@machina5 a new show with the mechanics that already exist. Name him Yuka Orangu or whatever and he uses rituals and all the other characters use a different mechanic. The bad guy could use pendulums and all mechanics and does a 1 v 5 with all other special summon types in the end
I always wanted the original Yu-Gi-Oh anime to be remade. New decks and support cards could come out. I want a toon structure deck.
I tentatively support this. It would be incredibly nice to see the original show revitalized with better animation + them cutting down on any filler/ extraneous scenes. Though, given the original show was born from Takahashi, it might feel weird without his guidance at Konami.
“A 2014 abomination” rip BA LOL😂😂😂
Don't tell Farfa
What I really love of Yu-Gi-Oh is how fully Diverse the game really is from the multiple decks to how everyone (that doesn't follow the meta) will have thier own decks and gimmicks from the ballsy exploding Fire Kings to the why are you hitting yourself Minako decks to even the over kill decks like Cyber Dragon and Galaxy-Eyes. (Even if I never played the real life game BUT did won a Duel Links Tournament and screamed so loud my GF thought i was having a stroke)
stall decks and decks that make it so you might as well be playing solitary shouldn't be a thing in yugioh
I wish I could reboot the game. Go back to using mainly vanillas and few effect monsters, focusing on equips and field spells to boost stats, and traps to outwit the opponent.
That's Kinda Rush Duel right now lol but yeah I get what your saying the beautiful Goat format
So you want Rush Duels
Well I came here for yugioh content and now I’m questioning if it’s worth getting into the one piece Tcg 😂 Anyone know if it’s easy to pick up and fun to play? I’m not too far into the anime so I’m curious if it’s worth picking up if they even have structure/precon decks for them
Why not just ask me? :D
In terms of picking up the game (I'm referencing the gameplay here, not acquiring the actual cards), I'd say it's really easy. Me and my friends understood how to play after reading the manual + playing 1-2 games in one night. Of course, there are certain tips and tricks you can learn that boost your capabilities (e.g., you'll later learn about the "counter" system which, if employed well, can be absolutely detrimental to winning games). But, the basics are completely reasonable. And, I'm biased, but yes, the game is fun! Matches bar top cut are best of one, so a game can be really quick. I also have found the majority of this community to be overwhelmingly positive.
The main issue with the game right now is prices. Bandai has been having printing issues, leading to a scarcity of product on shelves. If you're the type of person that likes buying packs or, sometimes, even structure decks, it might be hard to find these things. Singles, in my eyes, are the way to go (make sure to practice a deck first on the fan-made, online simulator, "OPTCG Sim"). But, some singles will be really expensive due to the former. Just keep that in mind.
TLDR - I'd argue it's fairly easy to pick up and fun to play. The only problem you'll face is a lack of product for the time being + some cards being expensive.
@@pk_tuneworld thanks for the info, I’ll definitely keep all that in mind! Do you have any recommendations for budget decks you find fairly fun or beginner friendly that I can start researching to build? Or any structure decks to keep an eye out for if I ever find any at stores?
Duel links is forgotten
Tune world never misses
True that
Soooooo comfy mmmm I feel like plushfire
We need more diversity in the way we play by having multiple formats as well as alt playstyle on how to play the game would fix the issue especially if Konami makes support for it
Yeah, I feel like there's a gold mine for alternative formats, but Konami hasn't leaned into this enough.
Commented on the original but I gotta support the algorithm on this one :)
I used to get that feeling with Yu-Gi-Oh but it faded when the point of YGO became making your opponent unable to play the game. I'll still accumulate some archetypal decks for collection sake and the rare occasion that someone wants a more "Anime Style Fight" 😅 But that niche of reliving anime moments has gone to Vanguard for the most part.
Why haven’t they made animated movies for the other shows? Like GX, I know we have the crossover but that’s different
NEVER.
When players started to play FTK that's the time where Yugioh fans and players started to quit.
there is rotation in yugioh its called powercreep and giving support to a deck so its 1 old card and 39 new cards is not actual support its just a new deck that shares a name
Even then, my argument is that it's not a strict rotation. I don't deny that many older cards get powercrept and, hence, invalidated competitively as time goes on. I mention this point at the end of this video. Also, your point regarding how any older decks played today are mostly comprised of new legacy support is also a completely valid point that I didn't think about. Nonetheless, there's nothing stopping you from giving older decks a shot (those that don't bank on all the new support just to be good, or those that don't have new support at all). And, even if it may not be a frequent thing, I still enjoy getting schooled by players with these strategies either on MD or at locals. If you disagree, completely fine - I appreciate your take and am glad you shared it! It's fun to talk about these things.
It really is a shame we won't ever have an anime again, and will actually only get more nostalgia bait cards or storylines that isn't really the game we are playing.
I want Support for umbral horror. Give me umbral horror support
Cardfight vanguard still had anime
Completely fair point. The video should be taken holistically - it is true some of the other card games have their respective animes, but combine this with Yugioh's lack of set rotation, no mana, etc makes it unique. I've heard good things about Vanguard, not trying to slander it :D
I used to play yugioh back during yugioh GX and earlier, it was so much fun and I have fond memories of it but I stopped after 5D since I got busy and the anime wasn’t as fun. I thought about coming back to yugioh but the cards are too damn long to read during matches and the power creep kinda took away the feelings of each card being special, now they just all look like a cog in the machine
Completely fair! The early years of Yugioh definitely had a simplistic charm to them. Modern Yugioh, on the other hand, is undeniably a lot more fast-paced and complex. I am biased towards modern, so I'd argue it can be worth it to put in the effor to learn + even with power creep, a lot of decks do still incredibly unique versus others. Though it's not going to be for everyone.
they could balance yugioh but they will never do it b/c balance doesnt sell product
Honestly Myron should’ve faced her while talking . Fk her personal space . This makes her look like she’s in charge and Myron is intimidated
Buddyfight did a pretty good job, but their anime could not hit the same highs.
Erase then upload why ?
"the ygo anime is the card game" mfs when they watch ygo zero
That's a different anime
Need another anime like arc v that celebrates the game but doesn’t suffer from terrible writing at the last 2 arcs…
I was so invested in Arc V, but initially could not finish it after what happened in those two arcs. I'll definitely finish the show later down the line just so I have the knowledge, but damn did Konami fumble...
no
Younger days playing yugioh with no meta deck, just us with cards we liked. My friend summons Obelisk and destroys my dark magician leaving me at 700 lp. He ends turn with no back row, 2 cards in hand with 1500 Lp. My turn starts and I draw dark magician girl, my field had two set cards, dark burning magic binding circle and dark and one set monster mystical elf. I said to him: "My deck has no pathetic cards Kaiba, but it does contain "DARK MAGICIAN GIRL" i activate dark burning magic to destroy Obelisk and attack for game. I will never forget this duel since it reminded me of the anime, a heart of the cards moment against a god card.
One time when I was really little playing duel generation I had a moment like that. Opponent tributed my monsters for obelisk with the spell, both of us had low life points, and I topdecked cemetery bomb and killed him next turn :D
nah bro, filling the field with negates and not letting your opponent play is no fun
winning in 1 turn is no fun
this game is getting worse and worse and its getting harder and harder to draw new players with each year, the number of players will only go down, but never up
I understand why people love the idea of not losing cards when a new set comes out or a new format comes out however this isn't a great solution when it comes to card design because Konami often forgets how older cards synergize really well and weren't put in check because the time that they were made they didn't have a once per turn clause or whatever and then they become inherently busted. I get why there's pushback for set rotation but I still don't agree the fact that set rotation couldn't be implemented in a separate format
Also you're just wrong about how set rotation works. Just because a new set comes out doesn't mean that all cards are completely invalid. It's called reprinting those cards and allowing them on the rotation list itself. There are legacy cards that exist in other games that just get rotated back in
I won't comment on whether or not Yugioh should have set rotation or not either in the main game or in an alternative format like you mention - it's definitely a complex debate, and both sides have their pros and cons. I'm on the side of no set rotation, but I do see the many issues with this approach (as you say, sometimes there are really weird and toxic synergies that arise). I will say, though, that I didn't explicitly state set rotation lacked reprints - I omitted the matter from the video because it didn't feel necessary to bring up. I'll explain my thought process.
Yes, games with rotations do have reprint systems. Pokemon reprints key trainer cards (most notable one I can name right now is "Boss's Orders"), and Hearthstone has a "core set" that allows the devs to rotate back in any cards that are relevant for the new era. Nonetheless, these games can't always rotate in whole decks from previous eras without creating some alternative format. Take Pokemon for example: one of my favorite decks from around Cosmic Eclipse era (2019) was "Reshirom", a Reshiram-Zekrom duo card that acted like a glass cannon by detaching all of its energy to one-shot foes. There are definitely Pokemon that use a similar mechanic in the current format, but they don't play exactly like Reshirom did back in the day between cards like "Welder" and "N's Resolve" mass-accelerating energy. Plus the fact I'm not playing with a Reshiram-Zekrom duo card.
With Yugioh: ignoring the flaws of rotation + the fact that older decks will undeniably be power crept to some capacity, I have the option to still play with, say, Crystrons released in 2017. I don't have to wait for Konami to miraculously reprint that archetype's key support cards let alone the archetype itself. I have it at my disposal anytime I want.
If you disagree with me, would love to hear it! I'm open to these sorts of discussions - I make these videos to talk about the game and or concepts surrounding it. I appreciate the takes you've presented!
Just wish it felt like it did back in the day... Rush Duel anime for the last like 4 years is really not helping in the slightest, imo. Instead if growing up with their fans they just decided to make a new product geared toward 7 year olds so they can maybe hope to get the same hype with a new generation.
I think the biggest shame with Rush Duel is it has the potential to do well with older people, but Konami hasn't brought it to the west. They brought it to Duel Links, sure, but if we could try out the physical card game in other countries, it might get more people into it.
I agree with you that it would be nice to have a more mature show again, as you can still market a game to kids with older characters.
You already lost me, GX was when i checked out of yugioh.
Understandable 🫡
I don’t know how you can say yugioh is a fun game and support that with t0 combos and negates. That’s why there will never be another yugioh. Cause if you aren’t bound to it through nostalgia, it’s not fun
Also hearthstone has a wild format where cards don’t rotate and magic has legacy and commander. You have fewer options than those games for deckbuilding because you have fewer formats
Well, because it is to some people. I completely understand the disgust with all the t0 combos and negates. I myself have gotten tired of it too at times - I alt-tabbed out of Tearlament format when it happened and am currently alt-tabbed out of Snake-Eyes format until the next banlist. There have been occasions where I get frustrated at a deck completely locking me out of a turn using some disgusting combo (Floowandereeze should not still have Feather Storm).
Yet, to say I can't call Yugioh a fun game feels weird. The game is still doing incredibly well. Yes, yes, Yugioh has a new player problem - it has plenty of other problems too (complexity, product issues, the issues you stated). But, there are still a ton of people who enjoy the game, me included, completely separate to the nostalgia. And it's not because we're sadistic and enjoy invalidating our opponent, or because we just want to win. I play the most AWFUL decks and rarely top locals by choice. The decks I play (e.g., I always flex the PUNK archetype) have no connection to the anime nor to any iconic decks of the past. There's just a weird charm to the amount of crazy things this game offers.
Also, yes, I am aware Hearthstone and Magic have legacy formats. I am aware Yugioh's current lack of alternative formats is very limiting, and I do wish we had more legacy formats or just funny side formats. The point of the "set rotation" part of the video is to just stress how Yugioh emphasizes its timeless format as THE main format. Plus, when taken in tandem with other points listed in the video, this culminates in the unique game Yugioh is.
That said, though, I completely respect your opinion if you don't like Yugioh. The game, though it resonates with many, isn't for everyone. Plenty of people in this comment section have already voiced how they dislike "X" or "Y" including the same thing you said. There's nothing wrong with that - if anything, I'd be alarmed if this game was considered the shining example of card games. I just want to argue that it's a special type of game amidst the others.
@@pk_tuneworld I think you made a cool video and it really speaks on the problem with yugioh. They have a sick IP and way to advertise it and they make a bad card game. Yugioh is plagued with bloated card design and the best thing they could do is a hard reset on the game.
Magic has a similar problem, and they address it with set rotations and casual formats, but still get outsold by Pokemon because Pokemon has a sick IP and simple, accessible game. If Konami was making a good card game, you would see the TCG performing somewhere between those properties. It’s not. It’s performing worse than Magic, and there’s nothing creating hype for Magic outside of the TCG.
I just think it’s telling that there is so much propping up Yugioh to be a successful card game and it’s still losing relevance. It’s been completely dropped by my LGS in the last two years and even at Walmart, there’s hardly any space dedicated to yugioh cards because they’re not selling.
I appreciate this response! I don't really have a counterpoint to it because you're completely correct. I'm glad you like the video, but, as we're both aware, it forgoes talking about the game's problems to momentarily be positive. Yugioh is sick, sure. But, it's undeniably riddled with problems at the moment. It's a shame too because, in my opinion, it really wouldn't be that hard to fix some of them. Introducing and promoting extra formats like Magic doesn't require some grandiose effort (to my knowledge). I guess Konami is sort of trying with the recent Time Wizard 3v3 YCS, but they could be doing so, so much more. Sure, it might suck to have to reprint sets, but it's clear the company doesn't have printing issues.
In terms of designing sets that do well - not sure what Konami's angle at present is. Probably greed - they do tend to delay reprints for certain sets when they could easily spread these out more to other sets that need the flair. Regardless, it's a shame to see LGS's drop the game because of this (or for Yugioh's less relevance).
I still love the game and think it'll be around for some time. I wouldn't be 100% confident in claiming it's "dying" like some other Yugitubers say. Nonetheless, the game is sure to continue losing relevance if Konami doesn't act more.
Engine's and handtraps ruined this game
Very interesting point. I myself have gotten used to them, but I understand the angle. With engines, I think if they're not too commonplace, they're okay. For example, Scraps, to me, is fine. It's neat for machine decks, but not everyone is using it, and it's very, very flawed. But, when an engine becomes completely splashable everywhere with little drawbacks like Diabellestar or Adventurer (the latter in reference to when it was good), I wholeheartedly agree that they limit deck building a TON. Also makes it so that certain formats become too expensive.
Hand traps I would be a bit hesitant to look down upon. I feel like they are a little necessary for the current pace of the game. Though, you could make the argument Konami introducing hand traps is what led to them being able to make the game faster in the first place.
Sorry yo pop your bubble, but Yugioh Animation Chronicles isnt something to "wait and see", it's just what we saw, there is no anime or anything *confirmed* past it.
All of the things you described about yugioh that make it unique due to its lack of mana system aren't actually unique to yugioh, magic has those things too despite having a mana system. The lack of a mana system is what causes those back to back tier 0 formats you mentioned. It is a downside of the game, not an upside as Konami themselves originally made links to rectify (unsuccessfully). As for the variety of decks, those come with age of the game. Given enough time younger games like one piece may have such a variety of decks as well. And in terms of anime, Digimon currently has a TCG manga that's pretty good and captures the essence of the game in the same way. Given time other games could develop those as well. That Pokemon doesn't already have one is shocking to me but it wouldn't be a challenge at all for them to make it so. Yugioh is struggling to gain new players, and relys solely on the nostalgia of its core playee base thats still hanging on, this is why the anime pivoted to rush duel. Kazuki takahashis original manga was iconic, and the game that shuiesha and Konami spun out of it has been a cash cow for them up until now but it's looking more and more each year like that may soon come to an end.
God I hope so I hate this rush duel crap
Why? Genuine question
Lmao rush haters tear or yummy
I would certainly hope not.
Take yugioh away from konami and tv tokyo first
Give them to companies that will know how to deal with player bases and keep the game alive and the anime instead of only seeking profits
As interesting as this would be, we know Konami would never give up a game that's generating them so much revenue :( - also, for all the negativity we give them, they have kept the game afloat for years now at least? We've definitely had low points like right now with Snake-Eyes format, but there have been a ton of highs in the past years too (Unchained format before AGOV, Rarity Collection, the hope of Animation Chronicle, etc)
@@pk_tuneworld I know its unrealistic but its the best solution I see
they are not a demon of course but they are way many flaws in their management , yes we had good formats but the way they deal with bad format and players feed packs
not to mention how they ruined last ygo series , vrains, it had many production issues and filler eps when it had potential similar to 5ds
but lets hope they actually do chronicles (but please keep tv tokyo away)
I don't think they necessarily need to give it away, but there does need to be better handling of the products and franchise as a whole. A bit more transparency would be nice to know about any potential plans for the franchise and reasons for ban lists. I love that they often release concept art and even have the art books, but hate that they can release a full art book with the artists' notes and not credit them. Also, the ever decreasing support for our friends in Europe is crazy when the official YuGiOh EU channel puts so much effort and love into presenting the game. They could also do with re-negotiating the contract to allow for cash prizes like most card games are doing now, and if they can't, at least include better prizes so the players can make some profit.