The Character that Ruined Yugioh - Crow Hogan

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  • Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
  • I despise him. I loathe him. I hate him...
    Crow Hogan, the man who appeared... And essentially Ruined Yugioh 5ds.
    Chapters
    0:00 - F U CROW
    2:13 - Dispelling Misinformation
    5:23 - A MESSY INTRODUCTION
    12:16 - BECOMING A CHOSEN ONE
    17:26 - 5D’S MESSY WRITING
    24:13 - FIXING CROW’S WRITING
    26:17 - IN CONCLUSION
    27:45 - End Credits
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  • @Mangakamen
    @Mangakamen  7 днів тому +77

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    • @ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo
      @ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo 6 днів тому +7

      I am totally agree with you. I still don't understand why shonens refuse to do romance. Yusei and Aki are litteraly one of the few romance who made everyone agree. The scenarists knew they were in love , the fans knew , the others character knew it , even the endings of the serie showed this😂. They clearly kissed eachother in the end . At this point , it is like the writes though a relationship in Yu-Gi-Oh would be bad. 5 minutes where they are boyfriend and girlfriend even if they are in different cities would be perfect

    • @ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo
      @ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo 6 днів тому +3

      And also it is true. Crow shouldn't be the only character responsible of all the problems. It is like SNK. People say Mikasa is the responsible of all the problems of writing when clearly not

    • @aptheweirdone
      @aptheweirdone 6 днів тому +1

      @@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo From the research I did, Zexal is only one where the main character and main female hook up.

    • @Greg501-
      @Greg501- 6 днів тому +2

      There is actually a Blackwing card that synergizes with the Dragon that was printed a year before it: Against the Wind, an Archtypal Warrior Returning Alive that dealt you damage equal to the attack of the returned monster. They're still so bad though, and they aren't even "Blackwing" monsters to benefit from card like Kalut.

    • @takeruneverborn4740
      @takeruneverborn4740 6 днів тому

      Hey I blame the developers also I don't agree crow should have been a arch rival and yusei hater I kind like the idea that yusei actually had friend outside of Rally Tank and Blitz & Nervin and also someone who can challenge like Jack also love how crow has inspiration finish the legendary bridge to connect the Satellite to New Domino and the fact that Red Goodwin is the Legendary Rider that the traverse to New Domino set up something that could involve crow into the story without being connect to the signers and how we can have aki involved have her aid crow in the duel after he injured in battle with Dark Signer Gregor and Aki can silent her self as the third Signer while hinting Crow is Ally or future Signer

  • @esteban8471
    @esteban8471 6 днів тому +143

    So what I'm getting from this isn't so much "Crow ruined 5DS", but more so "5DS ruined itself in the later half, and Crow is a token of many of those problems."

    • @stampoulisrafael5262
      @stampoulisrafael5262 6 днів тому +5

      How did 5D's ruin itself when its one of the most beloved series in the franchise

    • @esteban8471
      @esteban8471 5 днів тому +24

      @@stampoulisrafael5262 The video itself talks about how 5DS' writing took a massive nose dive in quality in it's second half. Sure, "ruin" might be an over exaggeration since 5DS is still enjoyable to watch, but the difference between season one and afterwards is very noticeable.

    • @RandoGrunt
      @RandoGrunt 5 днів тому +5

      @@esteban8471 Yeah, I'd say the writing quality managed to rebound for its final act with the Arc Cradle and everything involving Z-ONE and because of that got to end on a high-ish note.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 5 днів тому

      Much how like the majority of politicians are symptoms of larger problems within the system and not truly problems themselves. Some exceptions like the Turtleman and Benedict Donald aside.

    • @glenmoody-elias1040
      @glenmoody-elias1040 4 дні тому +9

      @@RandoGrunt A high-ish note that's only in the sub, to add extra salt in wound.

  • @supersonicstyleatsonicspeed
    @supersonicstyleatsonicspeed 6 днів тому +333

    Akiza should have been the one to take Crow’s place as the character that should have had a lot more screen time and support in both the anime and the actual deck archetype in the real game.

    • @ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo
      @ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo 6 днів тому +46

      Perfectly. Black rose dragon could have a so great archetype . Litteraly the majority of the problems of 5Ds would be fixed if Crow didn't become a signer

    • @Path_To_Paradise_YT
      @Path_To_Paradise_YT 6 днів тому +21

      Not necessarily
      They could try to strike a balance where both get enough screen time
      Sidling crow for Akiza is just as bad as Akiza getting sidelined for Crow

    • @John-Stark
      @John-Stark 6 днів тому +31

      ​@@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zohilarious how the guys that made the DS game agrees with that, making the Player character the Signer in Crow's spot

    • @gutsmasterson2488
      @gutsmasterson2488 6 днів тому +5

      @@John-StarkGood times!

    • @byronlyons3548
      @byronlyons3548 6 днів тому +4

      @@John-Stark Ok, but where was our own OC Signer Dragon do not steal?

  • @ThePariahDark
    @ThePariahDark 6 днів тому +257

    I will never forgive that Aki got shelved. I don't care what backstory is true or bogus. Aki had the setup, the build up, and then she got shelved. I shall not forgive that. And for some reason Crow got suddenly popular when Aki got _less_ important, hmmm.

    • @colt1903
      @colt1903 6 днів тому +23

      Sexism? In my card game? PREPOSTEROUS! 😂

    • @FlameGirlPlays-gq9xv
      @FlameGirlPlays-gq9xv 6 днів тому +12

      I would of loved that, and I'm not just saying that cause I met her VA a few days ago at Too Many Games. Erica was super fun to meet and she deserved more time to shine in the show

    • @ProseWithoutCons
      @ProseWithoutCons 5 днів тому +4

      Coincidence? I think NOT!

    • @jackspicer5261
      @jackspicer5261 5 днів тому +6

      Yea and all the possible plant synchro / black rose upgrades we could have gotten

    • @DarkMatterZero
      @DarkMatterZero 5 днів тому +4

      Because girl doesn't sell cardboard to teenage boys apparently. But it was also they wanted a Joey for the Yugi and Kaiba.

  • @legendarycryptid2629
    @legendarycryptid2629 6 днів тому +57

    I still think Crow had potential with Arc-V... problem is that he started beating guys like Shun and Gongenzaka and getting more screen time even after the time in Synchro came to an abrupt end, even if he lost his duels in the end...

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus 5 днів тому +3

      I stand by I would have had any reason to care about the Battlewasp guy IF Crow wasn't there right next to him. Because Crow is a far more balanced version of him and has good reason to be mad at our protagonist, I'm not going to care about the guy who's antagonistic toward Yuya from practically day one.

    • @legendarycryptid2629
      @legendarycryptid2629 5 днів тому

      @@TheWizardMus Yeah, I'm surprised "FUCK YOU SHINJI!" hasn't been a thing. The guy recruits Yuya to help get the Commons to glory... then blatantly accuses him of trying to screw over the Commons once he wins? Along with the Commons themselves not acting much better than the Tops sometimes, and you wonder if it's really worth helping them with the Friendship Cup at all...

    • @legendarycryptid2629
      @legendarycryptid2629 5 днів тому

      @@TheWizardMus Yeah, I'm surprised "Fuck you, Shinji!" hasn't been a thing. The guy recruits Yuya to fight for the Commons... then _blatantly accuses him of trying to screw over the _Commons_ just because he won against him? Add in the Commons not acting much better than the Tops at times, and you wonder if it's really worth trying to get them their freedom through the Friendship Cup.
      I assume UA-cam removed my original comment because it had Fuck you Shinji in all caps.

    • @mystery8820
      @mystery8820 День тому

      @@TheWizardMus
      Shinji is just a complete asshole like his wasps. He should disappear for being a worthless asshat.

  • @pickyphysicsstudent201
    @pickyphysicsstudent201 6 днів тому +32

    NGL, the idea of the Pierce being a Signer whose will was passed on to Crow through would work wonders. Yugioh hasn't ever tackled the inherted will and it would raise a lot of questions about Signer magic and what Crow should do now that he has a power which wasn't meant for him.

    • @yamizakygo5869
      @yamizakygo5869 6 днів тому +3

      signers don't die, the crismson dragon saves them. just like how dark signers are dead but revived

    • @colt1903
      @colt1903 6 днів тому +4

      ​@@yamizakygo5869 Which is bullshit, has been and always will be.

    • @yamizakygo5869
      @yamizakygo5869 6 днів тому +3

      @@colt1903 it makes sense for why the security don't just use weapons against them instead of card games

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 днів тому +3

      ​@@yamizakygo5869Wasn't 5DS supposed to be good?

    • @yamizakygo5869
      @yamizakygo5869 6 днів тому +3

      @@lpfan4491 it is good.......

  • @fortypercent3870
    @fortypercent3870 6 днів тому +104

    I wouldn't usually hate that Aki vs Andore duel because not only was that her first real turbo duel going against a team of seasoned professionals but also because she started with an overwhelming disadvantage thanks to Jack's earlier fuck-up. But I do in fact hate it a lot because that's her ONLY real turbo duel in the series, she never has another turbo duel again. It would be very interesting to see her progressively getting better at it with each one, but we never get that.

    • @SiNKarnage
      @SiNKarnage 6 днів тому +10

      Not only that, she had alot on her plate. Yusei handed her his most cherished monster making her go out of her way to Summon it like shes hopelessly ineffective in Riding Duels so she must pass the buton to him if they want to try and win this...
      Not as if Aki might have tricks up her sleeve and can defeat at least one Team Unicorn member. They had everything planned out for Jack, Crow and most of all Yusei but Akiza could've put a huge dent in their strategy if she played competitively like herself out there.

    • @_JewGiOh_
      @_JewGiOh_ 6 днів тому +10

      She deserved another turbo duel win that wasn't Trudge. Saying you beat Trudge in a duel isn't much of a flex.

    • @khoadao3071
      @khoadao3071 6 днів тому +6

      Hell they even made up that one time nonsensical rule that allowed Andre to add up more Speed Counters so he could screw her up with those speed spells later. That stupid rule never appeared again in any times later. The writers wanted her to lose to make WRGP feel challenging but understood how strong she was and how impossible it is to defeat her without giving her rivals a shit tons of advantages. And even with all that she was the real MVP of that duel saving Yusei a lot of troubles later having to summon Stardust and avoiding those unfair amount of Speed Counter damages that she already took herself.

    • @nekoluxuria7721
      @nekoluxuria7721 6 днів тому

      I do feel like aki should have beat andore and then lost to the 2nd wheeler due to deckout or beat the 2nd wheeler and lost to the last wheelever via burn cheese. aki using yusei's stardust and her black rose in tandem. yusei uses crow's black feather dragon to counter the burn strat by aki using a desynchro card to split stardust dragon. yusei comments that it was a good plan ans instantly goes into black wing dragon, a card specifically built to counter burn strats.
      Like I am legit fine with jack losing because the entire team got completely finessed and jack losing by being caught lacking badly makes sense.

  • @puppetmon9687
    @puppetmon9687 6 днів тому +12

    If there was ever a remake of the show (which will likely never happen), Ruddy Rose Dragon should be a must, due to its Stardust Dragon-like effect, this would represent how Yusei made an impact in Aki's life

  • @Empireofignorance7817
    @Empireofignorance7817 5 днів тому +10

    Crow joining sector security is like shadow from sonic joining G.U.N

  • @skyrogue1977
    @skyrogue1977 6 днів тому +26

    This reminds me of my opinions of the new characters from GX season 3.
    I don’t dislike them, just the fact that the existing characters get shafted so the new guys can shine.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 5 днів тому +4

      While I do like Johan, he was the first of several Canon Sues that always drag their respective shows down. That they recovered like they did in the eleventh hour with Soulbirner is miraculous.

  • @Pepperknight341
    @Pepperknight341 6 днів тому +35

    "It's all your fault, Crow!" - Shingo Sawatari

  • @pikagammerpluspizza7478
    @pikagammerpluspizza7478 6 днів тому +108

    Genuinely I think Crow would have been better liked if he dueled with Rex against Roman in a 3 way duel, but Rex basically forces him to leave through shadow game & card combo shenanigans. That way you can have another good duel with Crow facing against a Dark Signer while also working with his 'hero' only to be ultimately pushed away for a 'rematch' with Rex at the end of the season. Showing that while Crow is a late arrival, he does have a reason for being there at the end of the dark signers arc.

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 6 днів тому +49

    OK that makes no sense on why his dragon card was in his bike, since he would’ve noticed the card when he was repairing his bike.🐱

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 6 днів тому +14

      "Crow Is Dumb" count: close to 5 at the time
      XD

    • @user-nm1eu1xu1j
      @user-nm1eu1xu1j 6 днів тому +8

      I'm guessing in a hidden compartment/container, so it wouldn't just fly out on its own. Maybe they weren't sure what the compartment was for. That still doesn't explain how or why Pearson set up the blackbird to recognize the tail mark, considering that Crow wasn't a signer until after Pearson died, and the tail mark was originally Yusei's, and he didn't have it when Pearson was alive either

  • @blacksmith679
    @blacksmith679 6 днів тому +20

    The reason why Crow has an anti burn card is due to his vendetta with fire

  • @croftant2
    @croftant2 6 днів тому +25

    I think you could have teased Crow in a similar to well... Qrow. Have him be this mysterious Robin Hood like figure early on that does help Yusei from the shadows. He creates a distraction early on with Sector Security, with him sending Yusei a message thats basically, "Go get em". Then the audience can be held in suspense over this mysterious bad ass.

  • @rubysakurai
    @rubysakurai 6 днів тому +190

    I hate the fact that because Crow got pushed into the spotlight Rua didn't get the true form of his dragon until late in the show. The show was literally screaming that Rua was supposed to be the true 5th signer but nooo, it had to go to Crow instead.
    You can tell how shoe horned in he was because they retconned Black-Winged dragon into the "5" Dragons flashback later on. Let's not forget that Black-Winged Dragon was completely non-synergistic with the Black Wings archetype when it came out!
    They made my girl Aki a benchwarmer for this loser... ugh.

    • @StarWolfDragon
      @StarWolfDragon 6 днів тому +33

      THIS! ALL OF THIS! Thank you BOTH so much for bringing this all up! This is exactly why I hate Crow (as a main character). Had they made him into a supporting character, that would be perfectly fine, but adding him in last minute when the Signers and the Dragons were already established just ruined the overall plot for me, with benching Akiza (who was supposed to be the tertiary character from the start), adding in Black-Winged Dragon (who honestly sucks IMHO) into the Signer Dragon story just to force Crow into the already solidified plot, waiting to finally give Leo Life Stream Dragon when the show was nearing the end (when the dragon was first revealed in the very first season alongside the other dragons), and giving him a Mark of the Dragon that wasn't even on the Crimson Dragon's initial design. And for what... to hype up a damn archetype and make more money at the cost of the plot and wasting perfectly good character potential overall. And what makes this reason even worse is that most of the Blackwing cards we got after his character was established SUCKED compared to the first wave we got when he was introduced, and we still could've gotten Blackwings via Legacy Support, like how we got more of Carly's Fortune Ladies, Kalin's Infernities, etc. There was absolutely no need to make Crow a main character. Sure, he was a cool guy with a nice design, and he still could've joined the group later in the show like Bruno did, but how they went about it instead just ruined the show for me. Akiza, Leo, and Luna all got royally screwed over. We should have seen much more of them and their development alongside Yusei and Jack.
      Making Crow a Signer (and the new tertiary character) was the worst mistake they ever made in 5Ds. Bringing him back to ARC-V just twisted the knife as he brought absolutely nothing to that show either other than just to hype up Blackwings again.

    • @default9314
      @default9314 6 днів тому +12

      ​@@StarWolfDragon I will agree with you on pretty much everything, bar the last point
      Considering his character, he and yusei were the only ones who were from the slums AND wanted to change it for the better which he did try to do in arcV

    • @StarWolfDragon
      @StarWolfDragon 6 днів тому +6

      @@default9314 True. They just should've done a LOT better with writing him in both plots. They didn't have to go and make him a Signer out of nowhere in 5Ds, and I guess I just hated the direction they went with for the Legacy characters in ARC-V as a whole, by having them be counterparts of the originals instead of the actual characters (I mean what was the point? They may as well have just made whole new characters in their place who would've been affiliated with each of Zarc and Ray's respective counterparts, like Shun). I also still don't get why he would affiliate himself with a morally corrupted jerk like Shinji... But that's a topic for another day...

    • @Chriso22
      @Chriso22 6 днів тому +2

      Yeah it was forced

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 днів тому +4

      I will never stop making the same joke about this situration. Powertool effectively just said "hey, I am the 5th dragon of legend. But I will sit on my butt for 95% of it all, the new guy can take care of it."
      What a lazy coward. It's your duty dude! You can't just not show up to the fight because someone with no official stake decided to join the club and can fight in your slot! Or well, I guess one actually can just not show up since that is exactly what happened, I would give it heck for that stunt if I were the Crimson Dragon.

  • @mr.protagonist5639
    @mr.protagonist5639 6 днів тому +74

    Hot take, the second half of 5ds is just bad. It got saved by a good ending but it mishandled every character along the way. Why did yusei need to end every duel during the tournament, why was jack and carly destroyed, actually why was jack dumbed down so much. Why the overemphasis on crow, why did he become a signer, why wasn't Luna and the spirit world used pretty much at all, why did it take so long for Leo to get any pay off. Its funny because black crow dragon is the only signer dragon to be basically unplayable even his deck works bettee without the signer parts.

    • @tarikkash4282
      @tarikkash4282 6 днів тому +8

      First half great, second half not great!
      That’s the same reaction I hear people say about death note!

    • @IfrloveCoCoMelon
      @IfrloveCoCoMelon 6 днів тому +10

      ​@tarikkash4282 I am not a major death note fan, but to its defense , part two was decent, and people are just mad because a fan favourite died

    • @tarikkash4282
      @tarikkash4282 6 днів тому +1

      @@IfrloveCoCoMelon Yeah but you gotta admit, we all knew L's death was coming!

    • @colt1903
      @colt1903 6 днів тому +6

      ​@@IfrloveCoCoMelon Eh, it's a bit deeper than that. First, the fan favorite died, and then someone who isn't nearly as likable took his place.
      Narratively, someone like Near was necessary. L would have never been able to beat Kira, because he put Kira on a pedestal. Meanwhile, Near saw Kira as nothing more but a mere murderer, supernatural means and God complex or not.

    • @M3G4T3RR4
      @M3G4T3RR4 6 днів тому +6

      Not a hot take at all, if it wasn't for Arc Cradle, 5ds would have been the black sheep Yugioh fans choose to ignore

  • @wusuosaltchannel4922
    @wusuosaltchannel4922 6 днів тому +27

    His cards were too strong in comparison to everyone else and that pushed the production to do other things with him, without thinking. The firewall dragon syndrome, if you will.

  • @Anonymice
    @Anonymice 6 днів тому +16

    17:44 It infuriates me the OP just relegates Aki to "Benchwarmer" like it's not the writing staff's fault they fucked her up and mismanaged her.

    • @TenebraeXVII
      @TenebraeXVII 16 годин тому

      Her JP actress got married and started a family and asked for her role to be reduced to accommodate her newly reduced availability for recording. Short of recasting the character they did the best they could with what they had to work with.

  • @montyturner6511
    @montyturner6511 6 днів тому +18

    Good grief. Crow really wasn't treated kindly by the writers.
    Not to mention the fact that it really felt like he could've been shown at the beginning.

    • @colt1903
      @colt1903 6 днів тому +9

      I feel like you missed the point. The problem is he was treated TOO KINDLY by the writers. Either against their will or not, it doesn't really matter. The favoritism he received killed the show, plain and simple.

    • @montyturner6511
      @montyturner6511 6 днів тому +6

      @colt1903 I see. I agree here he got favored by the writers. But given that it dragged down and even affected other characters. Looking onward as someone who hasn't seen the 5D anime personally,I can feel a lot of ways to include Crow in without damping other characters development.
      But really, like Mangakamen said here,even if we tweak the structure and or placement of Crow's involvement with the main case it wouldn't really make a difference in Crow as a character.

  • @bigyoshi5170
    @bigyoshi5170 6 днів тому +60

    *tImE tO TURbO DUeL!*
    (Pulls out a snail)

    • @Kira22558
      @Kira22558 6 днів тому +8

      Card games on motorcycle.

  • @Spirit_of_Yubel
    @Spirit_of_Yubel 6 днів тому +22

    So, as an Amateur writer, I want to provide a potential reason for why the "Crow was supposed to be the Main Dark Signer Antagonist" theory likes to remain relevant.
    In the anime proper, after the Crow vs. Lazar duel, we see the gigantic Shadow Cloud gather over Satellite and afterwards we see no people remaining, including Crow. Compound how Crow would have a solid motivation for his undeath (While 4Kids did what they could to censor how Dark Signers come to be, they couldn't avoid Carly still, so odds are, even kids would understand how that happened) in that he'd want to do anything to protect the ones he cares about, including the orphans he cares for, Crow joining the Dark Signers would be a powerful change. Add how we see Crow introduced, robbing Sector Security, him being a sort of "Anti-Hero" is rather interesting.
    The Story itself seemed to be setting up for that route for Crow to be a major Anti-Hero of the Group, someone who is basically on the side of the Good Guys, but achieves the goals through questionable methods. For Crow to join the Dark Signers (Especially after Kallen's defeat) would have added a unique intrigue to the overall 5D's story, too. Would Crow stick to his guns after coming back from being a Dark Signer? Or would he regret that and actually begin to show remorse for his actions and grow?
    Basically, the gigantic "What If?" idea remains relevant because there's already legitimate in-story beats that lean in that direction.
    Even if Rex Goodwin was literally wearing the "Foreshadowing" on his attire, it could have been a massive Red Herring to throw people off. Not to mention how up until his own turn, Rex has been a Reasonable Authority Figure for the Good Team. Yes, his initial actions were very questionable from the start, he couldn't just go "Hey, I think you're part of a group of people who can save the world!" and expect the people to believe him. He needed the ones he suspected to actually prove it by revealing their Marks before saying "Yeah, that mark is proof of your involvement with this situation, and you can't deny it." Also compound that Akiza was a part of the Arcadia Movement and basically under Sayer's personal watch, that's another situation to deal with.
    On the topic of Rex's turn to Evil, that in and of itself feels rather last-minute tacked-on. He had been the Reasonable Authority Figure, then just goes off and says "Yeah, I want to be Evil now." That's another reason why people tend to latch onto the "Crow being a Dark Signer" theory a lot: Rex's actions were completely out of left-field. Or rather, it wasn't properly foreshadowed well enough. Rather, it felt like Rex was going to be the Surprise 5th Signer at the last second. Arguably, that's what a lot of the Season seemed to be leaning on, too.
    ....I suppose basically, it's just furthering just how messy 5D's as a Yu-Gi-Oh anime really fumbled the story in a lot of ways that the "What If?" ideas seem much more appealing than what we actually got.

  • @hal1385
    @hal1385 6 днів тому +44

    Crow showing up when he did in 5Ds really bothered me a lot. Yusei went through so much crap to reach Jack and get his Stardust Dragon back and then Crow just pops up claiming to be friends to both of them.
    Not even a single line to explain it. Like, "Yeah, I knew Jack screwed you over, but I decided to stay out of it because it was between you two" or something. I guess he was just asleep the whole time and Yusei is too polite to yell at him for not even trying to help.

    • @Cyberas-jet
      @Cyberas-jet 5 днів тому +6

      What was he suppose to do. Jump out and tag along with yusei as a third wheel while he left the orphans behind?
      Crows fine, his concern was on children that needed help more than his friend that he knew could handle it

  • @ShadowFox10587O
    @ShadowFox10587O 5 днів тому +4

    Crow is the one symptom of a bunch of other major issues with 5Ds both production and writing

  • @conradvallon5661
    @conradvallon5661 6 днів тому +76

    So who here agrees that 1. Crow should've been appeared in episode 1, and 2. Kamen should make a video re writing Yu-Gi-Oh 5ds.

  • @RuneRelations
    @RuneRelations 5 днів тому +3

    Clicked merely to see “Why would anyone have hate boner against Crow?”

  • @BlazingRaptor
    @BlazingRaptor 6 днів тому +7

    I am begging anyone to rewatch the scene with yusei and aki in the last episode. They ABSOLUTELY kissed. It’s funny how oblivious you can be when you’re a teen.

  • @Bravebird9
    @Bravebird9 6 днів тому +17

    I still wish Kiryu would have been in more episodes after Crash Town

    • @SmashBros2009
      @SmashBros2009 6 днів тому +5

      I agree, along with showing us the actual duel between him and Jack. But alas....:(

  • @IJNSucho
    @IJNSucho 6 днів тому +6

    Akzia: Im gonna be one of the most important characters
    Crow: Thats not gonna work for me brother!

  • @Dharengo
    @Dharengo 6 днів тому +4

    I mean from what I understand is "fuck you, Crow" is just easy to say, but what you really wish to say is "fuck you, writers of 5D's who are more interested in making characters look cool than writing a good story".

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 5 днів тому +2

      Ono couldn't even do THAT right when he was shilling his birdbrained golden boy _again_ in the fifth show.

  • @Legacy_of_Yata-Garasu
    @Legacy_of_Yata-Garasu 6 днів тому +5

    While I wouldn’t say that he ruined Yugioh, Crow did a lot of damage to 5D’s. Especially in regards to both Akiza and Leo, Akiza more so as it really did feel like she should’ve been the third main member of Team 5D’s rather than a benchwarmer, and in regards to Leo it really did feel like he was supposed to get a rematch against Greiger where he would’ve gotten Life Stream Dragon, and would’ve probably become the official fifth signer after the final duel against Rex. Instead both of them got shafted hard by a character that honestly got way too much focus than he should’ve gotten.

  • @rigrace
    @rigrace 6 днів тому +8

    I adore 5Ds and all the main characters but i also love to see suggestions how this show could have been improved. Aki and the twins really needed more spotlight, some of my favourite episodes are literally just fun little filler ones with the whole gang bonding and playing a family. Like you tell me we never actually got an honest talk from Rua and Ruka about their parents who leave their children completely alone? How this influenced them?

  • @magnum9588
    @magnum9588 6 днів тому +7

    Im Crow's defense, he probably was smart enough to know that even if Yusei got kidnapped he could plot armor himself out of the situation

  • @vampman87
    @vampman87 6 днів тому +6

    I agree with you about the disservice to Sherri LaBlanc. It's bad enough that in the Japanese version she's erased from existence by the Big Bads as a demonstration of their new power, but that episode, as well as 10 more, were completely cut from the English dub so we have no idea what happened to her and she isn't even mentioned for the rest of the season. We go from the Future Trio revealing themselves as the Big Bads to everyone to the middle of a feud between Team 5Ds and a team that uses the Nordic Gods, and those guys didn't even have an introductory episode!

  • @missperceived8281
    @missperceived8281 5 днів тому +4

    All it would have taken is maybe a half an episode of Ylliaster doing time travel shenanigans to cause the existence of Crow himself. Because not only would that foreshadow the time travel plot heavily, it would create an amazing set of themes and existential issues for all of the characters. Like, how real are the memories of the main characters at this point?

  • @mystikx2205
    @mystikx2205 6 днів тому +4

    The one thing I "love" about Crow is how he never had an established surname when he was first introduced. It wasn't until halfway into the WRGP that we learned it.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 5 днів тому +1

      Yeah, just keep piling on the evidence he's a Sue. Gotta convince those stragglers somehow.

  • @martinderabbie3429
    @martinderabbie3429 6 днів тому +9

    I never really hated Crow, my only real problem with him is that he's just kind of...There.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 5 днів тому +1

      When Honda and Hayato and Tetsuo and Reira are all less off-putting by their continued yet ancillary presence, something is wrong here.

    • @ghoulchan7525
      @ghoulchan7525 5 днів тому +1

      ​@@christopherb501Tristan/Honda literally carries the group. He's always seen picking people up when they fall unconscious.

  • @connorb1775
    @connorb1775 5 днів тому +5

    If I were to rewrite the series
    I would introduce Crow earlier and have him be a member of Yusei's friend group in Satellite
    Have him assist in distracting sector security in the beginning and help Yusei escape to New Domino
    Have Yusei and Crow meet up again in the prison it could then be revealed that he was captured by sector security whilst making that distraction that helped Yusei.
    Whilst in the prison he could help Yusei get a handel of things there, and assist him in getting enough cards to build a deck to duel the warden and eventually help with his escape whilst choosing to staying behind in the prison to slow down the gaurds, against Yusei's wishes
    This gives Yusei a window of time without Crow to let him meet the twins
    Then the villians could use Crow as a sort of hostage to get him to participate in the tournament they set up to try to get Yusei to show his Signer mark
    I'd prefer it if he was a central part of the story earlier on instead of being shoe horned in
    You could even give him a little arc where he realises he keeps satisfying himself to help his Friends and he has to learn to strive for a solution where he and all his friends win.

  • @lurkerinpain
    @lurkerinpain 6 днів тому +5

    now its 6d's instead of 5d's ...

  • @gyppygirl2021
    @gyppygirl2021 6 днів тому +68

    As an Arc-V fan, I would like to talk about Crow in that show. In my opinion, he's not good in 5D's, but he's flat-out bad in Arc-V. Why, you ask? Well...
    First off, he's out of character. Now, it can be argued that the legacy characters of Arc-V have some leeway when it comes to characterization because it's a full AU and their backstories are different, but Crow is just a complete jackass when that wasn't part of his characterization before. In context? Yes, it makes sense _logically_ that he would be angry at Yuya for endangering the kids, but it just doesn't _feel_ right, and it also doesn't flow well (especially because Yuya was the reasonable one of the team and actually tried to lay low). Then later on, he and his kids basically dismiss Shay outright because "you can't be sad about losing everything if you never had anything to begin with" or some BS like that.
    And this brings me to my single biggest problem with Crow in Arc-V: his duel with Shay. While I like the _concept_ of Shay dueling against someone he comes to understand and thus spurs his character development, the fact that he _loses_ after his character development is spurred feels anticlimactic and needlessly punishing. Doubly so since that's the duel in which he first summons Ultimate Falcon - the symbol of his resolve and his drive to protect his loved ones, the physical representation of his character arc made manifest. (And he goes on to lose EVERY SINGLE DUEL in which he summons a monster higher than rank 8. Including Ultimate Falcon. But I digress.)
    What should have been a triumphant moment for an established original character of Arc-V, who's been around since the start and has been struggling to trust even his own teammates, turns into a triumphant moment for _a cameo character._ There was no reason Crow had to win that duel. It's thematically inappropriate, forced, and... need I mention that the card he won the duel with isn't even played in most Blackwing decks because it's bad? Meanwhile Ultimate Falcon is practically mandatory in Raidraptors? That's just bad advertising and blatant favoritism.
    I could go into how Crow is the first person to come back from being carded, for no apparent reason other than blatant favoritism, but I think I've made my point. If you want to listen to me ramble about Crow some more, by all means, ask and I will provide. But in short: Crow ruined a perfectly good moment for one of my favorite Arc-V characters who got done severely dirty in general, and I'm still salty about that.

    • @StarWolfDragon
      @StarWolfDragon 6 днів тому +8

      PREACH!!! I didn't even think about that when he dueled Shun. TBH, the whole Synchro Dimension Arc was boring, frustrating, and way too long for me... Shinji made me hate it, which is a whole other thing... What is Crow doing being friends with that morally corrupt jerkass...? Seeing his duels against Tsukikage and Yuya was infuriating to say the least...! But back to Crow... I absolutely agree with you on him taking away Shun's potential further character development. The fact that he could've been the one facing off against Berserk Yuya in the semifinal round would've been him saving both Yuya and Yuto, which would've made the duel MUCH more iconic! But nooooo, they just had to have Crow be the one to do it to hype up those damn Blackwings (and these new ones weren't even good except Raikiri (I believe? The one that destroys cards) and that freakin' Gofu that broke the game for a short while).
      If you ask me, they should've brought back Akiza instead of Crow. At least then, Yuzu could've interacted with her during her time in the Synchro Dimension, and heck, Akiza could've been the one to save her (instead of Sora) after Sergio sent her flying, using her Psychic Powers to do so! Yuzu could've had her own side story in that arc stretched out more instead of being a freakin' Damsel in Distress.
      Let's face it, ARC-V Crow was a mistake from start to finish. All we got from him were more broken and busted Blackwings, a Hate Sink character in Shinji, and further wasted potential all around.

    • @gyppygirl2021
      @gyppygirl2021 6 днів тому +3

      @StarWolfDragon Shinji... oh God, that's a whole other rant on its own. I can't properly put into words how much I despise him LOL
      I would have loved to see that version of the semifinals. Definitely more poignant than "Crow is still an unreasonable jerk for no good reason"... sigh.
      Also I would've taken Akiza over Crow as a legacy character in a heartbeat. I mean, we had Alexis for GX, why not Akiza for 5D's?

    • @wayuch9347
      @wayuch9347 6 днів тому

      Him (or anyone) being used to help develop Sawatari was really welcome
      If he didn't just break his duel disk and remove him from the plot until the Zarc duel
      Shingo deserved so much more

    • @Cyberas-jet
      @Cyberas-jet 5 днів тому +3

      All the legacy characters in arc-v are different than their original counterparts. Arc-v jack is such a different beast that’s he’s a new character with some paint coated on. This isn’t a crow problem

    • @gyppygirl2021
      @gyppygirl2021 5 днів тому +4

      @Cyberas-jet It is, kind of, because a lot of the problems with Arc-V also stem from Crow and Katsumi Ono's blatant favoritism toward him. He was a lot more prominent than he should have been, and won duels he absolutely shouldn't have, which is my complaint.

  • @gravityhero2227
    @gravityhero2227 5 днів тому +3

    Team 5ds vs Team Unicorn is my least favorite duel of the entire second half because it's Yusei soloing Team Unicorn.

  • @dayvonlouis5187
    @dayvonlouis5187 6 днів тому +23

    I didn’t like him replacing Aki as the third of the 5Ds power trio at all or him retroactively becoming a signer and I could care less about blackwings both in and out of universe though I warmed up to black winged dragon over the years not because of the relation to Crow or the oddly out of place relationship to the signer dragons mostly its effect I didn’t mind him showing up in Arc-V but the whole tournament arc and subplot and his involvement just dragged the story on even longer than it needed to all in all

  • @AmazonessKing01
    @AmazonessKing01 6 днів тому +17

    22:37 Even though I completely agree with you in most if not 99% of the points, I unironically believe that the only plot point of Crow that makes sense is to become a sector security, and the reason is simple. He didn't just hate the institution of sector security but what it does to people. For Crow, his main objective as a character is to protected the people from satellite and he just hates the disparity of society. So when that disparity is almost gone in 5Ds, then in order to protect the people he loves, makes a lot of sense to become a cop.
    Basically, he hates cops because of corruption, but without corruption, he doesn't only have no more reason to hate cops, but he can also be a good cop himself.

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  6 днів тому +11

      Cept the problem is we never saw him express that, nor was there any actual set up for him to do that. You can make all the theories you want, which is fine, but that's not enough to justify that nor does it explain how he would accept that part.

    • @tailsspin621
      @tailsspin621 6 днів тому +5

      ​​​@@Mangakamen I have to disagree here. While it's not said directly Crow just dislikes the abuse of power, the only reason we are ever given for anyone in the satellite disliking Sector Security is the way they are actively held back. We also know Crow isn't a might makes right person based on how he cares for the orphans with Martha. It seems to me Like Crow believes in looking after the little guy, which is something cops would do in a good system but aren't doing because it's a bad system. Crow becoming Sector Security could even be seen as a subtle nod to the viewer about how things really are getting better after the time skip.

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  6 днів тому +7

      "the only reason we are ever given for anyone in the satellite disliking Sector Security is the way they are actively held back."
      I mean, Security also trapped them on the island as essentially slave labor, and that people who were born in Satellite can't become members of Security...
      "Crow becoming Sector Security could even be seen as a subtle nod to the viewer about how things really are getting better after the time skip"
      Too bad that's never foreshadowed.

  • @YamiSouru
    @YamiSouru 6 днів тому +6

    One small scene i think they could have done to make Crows introduction make a LOT more sense would have just been a scene with him getting out of prison and thrown back on satellites streets. Sets up that he has beef with sector security and explains quickly why he wasn't around in the earlier parts of the show. Which considering his multiple marks then shows that he's done this multiple times before and so it's not just a one time happening but a relatively regular pattern of behavior, fitting for a rogue.

  • @zekiel2533
    @zekiel2533 6 днів тому +91

    Aki was sacrificed.... for mr bland.. smh lol

    • @darksword0928
      @darksword0928 6 днів тому +23

      As if the YGO anime writers ever need an excuse to throw an interestingly written female lead in the garbage.

    • @tarikkash4282
      @tarikkash4282 6 днів тому +8

      Is is just me or do most modern anime can’t write good characters!

    • @mattiasilva1705
      @mattiasilva1705 6 днів тому +2

      But……BUY BLACKWINGS!

    • @Justcallmeaqua420
      @Justcallmeaqua420 6 днів тому

      It's only you since ​5D's is not a modern YGO anime @@tarikkash4282

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 5 днів тому +1

      ​@@darksword0928Sevens is just basic on its female rep, yet it comes off like a feminist _masterpiece_ compared to the garbage Gallop kept pulling.

  • @callump1996
    @callump1996 6 днів тому +6

    The whole Crow and Rua buddy-cop route sounds like an idea that would have worked well! You could have Lucciano be the big rival for the Crow and Rua, as his Meklord Skiel, looks like a giant robot bird which is a nice foil to Power Tool/Morphtronics and Blackwings. The big character arc for them would be realising they don't have to be just like Yusei or Jack and can fight in their own way, special only to them.

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 5 днів тому +3

      Plus, they could've made them a combined 5th Signer if Crow and Leo became the "so we're not special, we'll still keep fighting!" duo. Have Rex's Signer mark vanish, then shuffle the late-stage duels around so that they're going up against someone (maybe Paradox, since he was one of Z-One's flunkies) in the end. Their backs are against the wall, and _that's_ when the missing mark appears with one half on each of them.

  • @MarxMayhem
    @MarxMayhem 6 днів тому +3

    FU Crow! But specifically because it feels like Leo/Rua got shafted out of the Signer role early so that he could get it instead. Him becoming a late Signer makes sense for all the reasons justified onto Lua/Leo later.

  • @Masterblader158
    @Masterblader158 6 днів тому +6

    Black-Winged Dragon's situation is still weird, and probably worse so, even factoring in how due to the World Championship video games revealing the existence of the Heart mark while Dark Signer arc was still airing as it meant two Signer dragons were sealed away and the second one was just...hidden inside a motorcycle instead of being in a special sealed form, sealed like the final Earthbound Immortal or held by the final villains. Like while the commonly believed amount of writing impact over his popularity is clearly exaggerated due to development time it does feel like the signer arcs were moved around and pushed back forced Rua to wait longer than he needed and made one of the Signer dragons not fit its owner as they ended up phoning it in since that kind of change can make sense over dozens of episodes and over a season change instead of just 1 dozen and clearly be worse written than the stuff at the beginning.
    Feels like Crow would have gotten Heart sign at very end, this time coming because of him fighting fate so much he rescued last Dragon so Crimson dragon give him mark as boost instead of how it was done impying he was always a chosen in a similar way to the video game mcs (who at least have excuse of being self-inserts), if pace was better done. And the Crow Rua connection you mention does also feel like it would have fit that pace this time showing himself worthy by mentoring a signer into his destiny. Making the marks instead fit the good chosen one trope of those who raise to the occasion are then chosen for the power to succeed.

  • @BlackStar-ck9sg
    @BlackStar-ck9sg 6 днів тому +8

    I kinda hope at some point Yugioh re does the older 3 anime. I’m sure they won’t but it would be cool to see an updated version of the old art style of yugioh and a retelling of DM, GX and 5D’s.
    Fixing errors or even using the mangas for each.

    • @lassegrotkjr6326
      @lassegrotkjr6326 6 днів тому +2

      Can we put arc v, and vrains into it too, those can benefit hugely from remakes, in fackt while I LOVE all the six yu gi oh series (not counting the rush duels anime’s) the one among them I have the least grips with is Zexal, as it told it story in the best way, wich is ironic because of the slander, parts of the yu gi oh community gives it.

    • @Masterblader158
      @Masterblader158 6 днів тому

      The manga for GX does relate more to the Egyptian past but I think they would avoid adapting those manga...because of stuff like 5Ds one basically confirming Z-one was really future Yusei and they'd rather pretend that Yusei can't be evil.

    • @BlackStar-ck9sg
      @BlackStar-ck9sg 6 днів тому +2

      @@lassegrotkjr6326 they can but I just see more value out of the first 3 getting remakes due to bonds beyond Time and dark side of dimensions movies

    • @BlackStar-ck9sg
      @BlackStar-ck9sg 6 днів тому +2

      @@Masterblader158 honestly I think it could work for a remake. Z-one could have been maybe an alternate yusei that never beat jack in the first tournament, or saved Aki.

  • @MilenAnessar
    @MilenAnessar 6 днів тому +6

    I like the guy, he's bold but caring and sweet and is skilled. Issues are what the writing has done with him, biggest one is making him a Signer which kinda screwed the whole show in many ways. And this is my personal problem but I dislike Blackwing as a deck, but then Black Winged Dragon happen that came out of nowhere and the later supports are sorta forced to make it works along with the deck, worst thing is the friggin' Tax Dragon. Again, I like the guy but hate what they done with him and the deck.
    So with all that said.... F* YOU CROW !!

  • @captaindeadpool8044
    @captaindeadpool8044 5 днів тому +3

    "Only to survive by... hiding in a fridge"
    Ah yes! The Indiana Jones way of surviving something that shouldn't have worked at all!😆

  • @kai_s.hazaki289
    @kai_s.hazaki289 6 днів тому +5

    So the reason you hate Crow is because of the writers shoving him into the plot
    Ok that’s fair

  • @Lunar365
    @Lunar365 6 днів тому +54

    I disliked Rua at the beginning, but he really had growth and became one of my favorite characters. Then Crow appeared and the plot did bend itself to put him on a pedastal. I was so pissed of. The ultimate battle against Aporia is still my favorite part of 5Ds. Love Lifestream Dragon and fuck you Crow! Also RIP poor Aki. Mrs. Benchwarmer.

    • @dokuganryu1565
      @dokuganryu1565 6 днів тому +7

      #AkiDeservedBetter

    • @wayuch9347
      @wayuch9347 6 днів тому +3

      Rua is such a nice character
      The fact his fragility is so apparent (he is baby tbf) and yet he keeps putting himself in harm's way to protect his sis screams courage
      There's so many little things to appreciate about him too like his summoning chants

    • @wayuch9347
      @wayuch9347 6 днів тому

      Rua is such a nice character
      The fact his fragility is so apparent (he is baby tbf) and yet he keeps putting himself in harm's way to protect his sis screams courage
      There's so many little things to appreciate about him too like his summoning chants

    • @dokuganryu1565
      @dokuganryu1565 6 днів тому +1

      @@wayuch9347 #AndRuaToo

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 3 дні тому +2

    10:24 I mean it's more like if Indiana Jones used a fridge to escape the literally face-melting power of the Arc of the Covenant, as an atom bomb is scientific while this is supernatural.

  • @KyanbuXM
    @KyanbuXM 6 днів тому +12

    I had a theory about Crow. That Aki was never intended to be part of the main trio. The fifth signer was supposed to fill that role before this idea was reworked into Crow for season 2.
    But due to how she was written in season 1, it gave the impression that she was going to be important. Or at least more important than intended.

    • @disconcerningcitizen2224
      @disconcerningcitizen2224 6 днів тому +8

      Pretty much, Aki character arc was completed after season 1. The fanboys are in deniel

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 5 днів тому +3

      ​@@disconcerningcitizen2224Never truly gave Crow one. If that's the reasoning, falls apart when they didn't give Crow something proper. Oh, and lest we forget, it TOTALLY slipped their minds to properly resolve Ruka. Talk smack about Aki or hype up the birdbrain all you want; the writers still sucked.

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 5 днів тому +4

      ​@disconcerningcitizen2224 her arc wasn't completed, it got choke-slammed. Sayer, her personal villain, just _vanished_ along with his cult of superhuman cronies with zero explanation until a book revealed years later that he just reappeared next to some security officers and got arrested. Heck, just giving her a mini-arc around the Blood Mefist/Hook Knight cards (maybe make them the result of some Arcadia loyalists with a hate-on for Team 5Ds) would've been better than what actually happened.

    • @disconcerningcitizen2224
      @disconcerningcitizen2224 5 днів тому +1

      @nicholasfarrell5981 Arcadia purpose in the story was twofold. Introduce Aki and link a dark signer to her (misty). They were never set up to be anything more, having to go back and deal with the Arcadia movement would have ruined the pacing.

    • @KyanbuXM
      @KyanbuXM 4 дні тому +2

      Yeah, they didn't intend for the Arcadia stuff to be relevant past season 1. Their biggest mistake was not keeping Sayer dead. Or at least wrapping up the aftermath of the cult's collapse during the epilogue for the Dark Signer Arc.

  • @krampusapprenticeofdarksan7870
    @krampusapprenticeofdarksan7870 5 днів тому +3

    Not going to lie, I was sort of saddened that Leo didn't become a signor when he was in his duel with Devack. Like he was struggling but he was putting his heart into his duel along with trying to think of some strategies that helps him survive longer. But I still have a sour taste when I see Aki's first WGP riding duel and she lost to BS plot written things so Yusei can defeat all of them. Aki should have won that duel in the WGP and she should have lost to the 2nd team member to show she is capable of holding her ground and not just a sacrificial maiden for Stardust, I mean she literally has traps that reflect effect damage. As for Luna she got the short end of the stick too out of all of them, she was just a stepping stool for her brother when she has an interesting power out of the signors since they found her more threatening since Earthbound Immortals need field spells to stay on the field. She could have had a filler ep about her dueling prowess ,that was told literally in the show that she was gifted in dueling and her getting upgrades since she can go to the Spirit world. The spirit world has not really been explored and we never hear about Dark Sage ever again. Heck he doesn't even get to have an alternate form to suit Luna's deck or even BE in Luna's deck despite her deck primarily being spirits she has gone into contact with.

  • @giovanniorellana2200
    @giovanniorellana2200 6 днів тому +263

    I think everyone's too harsh on Crow "ruining" the series

    • @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira
      @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira 6 днів тому +46

      The anime production ruined the series, that is because after takashi go away started the pre world grandprix arc. But can be worst, i tries to watch yugioh vrains and in 17 i screamed with angry because watch playmaker and ai its torture, and yes after episodio 15/16 have a new recap ep after 6 episodes

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 6 днів тому +1

      @@Paulo-gabriel-de-lira Thank you.

    • @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira
      @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira 6 днів тому +8

      @@orangeslash1667 you re welcome
      English is not my native language, and its strange use "you're welcome" after a thank you, because looks like i'm saiyng "you're welcome to enter in my house"

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 6 днів тому +5

      @@Paulo-gabriel-de-lira Are saying that the production was rushed, that the writers didn't have enough time to properly develop everyone???

    • @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira
      @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira 6 днів тому +7

      @@orangeslash1667 half that, because after takahashi leaved the production, the writters team started to write filler episodes, than only occuped time, the important episodes is the arc of kalin redemption, and the aparition of sherry, in one of the first episodes of pre world grandprix have two charcaters saying than now had a ned organization to control all, but only in the true world grandprix arc that become important, and had the crow part, black wing was the deck to go for the meta exactly equal with the anime cards, not had one card of blackwing than changed the effec and a bonus, blackwing winned a tournament(i don't know exactly but probably is the world championship), that only happened again with salamngreat from soulburner, so crow becomed more popular than the normal, had the rumor of crow being a dark signer but its fake, the truth is than probably the popularity influenced the production like the firewall dragon being banned.
      And you can see how takashi make fault, in the the world grandprix the write team destroyed a lot of characters, jsck become a comic character, not returning the relationship with carly, akiza become another joke entering in a school with a lot of kids(she has 16 years only to remenber) and that continues. You can see again in the fact than the final looks a little rushed, from nothing now leo had the signer mark, crow and akiza had the final duel in doubles. The story starts with a social plot and ends with a time travel plot.
      Its not so impactfull like vrains being developed in the same time with arc v final arc and darkside of dimensions, but becomed more a gx first season

  • @cosmicspacething3474
    @cosmicspacething3474 6 днів тому +3

    Looks like we finally get to see the whole reason for Kamen’s visceral hatred of this character!

  • @xeni6277
    @xeni6277 5 днів тому +2

    A lot of what you said about Crow reminds me of why I hate Zexal‘s last arc, and especially what they did with Shark. They basically reset his entire character arc of learning to trust in his friends, and made him a Barian for no other reason than needless melodrama (not to mention that this causes…just…a whole hecking lot of inconsistencies). None of this has any setup either (in fact, I feel like Shark and Rio were originally planned to be connected to Astral World somehow, which would have been a really cool twist actually).
    They essentially took what could have been a pretty neat concept for a character, and squandered it by shoving it onto an already existing character (which, to be fair, is not an issue Crow has at least). I know Yu-Gi-Oh! already suffers from cast bloat, but had…let‘s call him Barian Shark been introduced as a new character at the start of Zexal 2 alongside the other Barian emperors (and someone to take Rio‘s place as an emperor I guess), it would fix sooooo many of the writing issues of the Barian Emperors‘ War arc. (although it wouldn‘t fix how Vector is shoved aside after being set up as the main villain for more than an entire season‘s worth episodes, so it’d probably be best to just keep it to the five emperors they had in Season 2)
    I still don‘t get how it is so beloved by the way, even if you take the probably better executed emotional bits in the japanese version into account.

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus 5 днів тому +1

      See I think Shark and Rio and Nasch and Marin could have worked if they were double agents and just didn't tell Yuma(and if Rio/Marin got to do things). You'd get the same Astral and Yuma drama without the random drama of Shark backtracking on his friendship with Yuma.
      Like you wouldn't even have to change that much cuz the one who tried pulling the "I'm your friend" card was freaking Quattro, the guy who put Rio in the hospital and Shark has hated since the start of the series.
      Have Shark backstab Don Thousand and Vector because they're the villains, give Yuma a smug grin as he reveals his and Rio's brilliant plan and then after the Don Thousand duel Astral points out the Numeron Code needs to be fully formed to destory it or something and boom the Final Duel with Shark goes unchanged

    • @xeni6277
      @xeni6277 5 днів тому

      @@TheWizardMus To be fair, Quattro didn‘t know the card he played against Rio would do what it did, and helped save Rio in a tag duel with Shark that is framed as resolving the issues between them, only for that to be completely shoved aside as well…
      The Barian Emperors‘ War arc just can‘t stop messing things up, can it?

  • @revolverkyosuke7049
    @revolverkyosuke7049 6 днів тому +2

    I would argue that Soulburner is way more favored than Crow

  • @TheShadowcomet
    @TheShadowcomet 6 днів тому +1

    Yeah the directions changed at the end of the dark signers arc. While it was original planned to have Rua/Leo as the last signer and to get Yusei mark while Yusei gets the head mark. Thebuild up was where but the new directions did not think Rua and Aki would be good and changed both of their respective roles and gave them to crow

  • @jaycalibre609
    @jaycalibre609 6 днів тому +1

    Finally I have been WAITING FOR THIS

  • @kotlolish
    @kotlolish 6 днів тому +2

    Crow Hogan is if the writers have a favorite charater, can't make em the main charater, don't wanna change em, but dangit they want to put em in as much as possible.
    This one thing anyother charater could have? GIVE IT TO CROW! ..This one scene? GIVE IT TO CROW! ...Oops we pushed Crow too much, have another charater take over, but have them loose so that you can give YUSEI the PROTAG the win and make Crow look better by default.
    But you know what Crow is in 5DS? Joey Wheeler... but introduced way later and slotted in like nothing. You heard me.
    Crow was written to be 5DS's Joey.
    Jusei is Yugi.
    Jack is Kaiba.
    That's not how I see it.. but if you look at how everything gets treated..it makes sense.
    But insted of keeping him in a "Joey status" as in.. "Not one of the chosen ones."
    They were like: "But what if they were."
    And that's why Crow is Crow. They wanted to put in Joey, then they pushed him foward a lot and well... you get it.

  • @Mattacue1
    @Mattacue1 6 днів тому +9

    In terms of 5Ds aside from Yusei, Crow is my favourite male character. However I do understand your point but that’s not going to change my mind. I acknowledge your point of view on the character and I respect your opinion but my I still love Crow as a character. I do however wish they didn’t just make him a signer out of nowhere. That much I’ll whole heartedly agree with you on.

  • @geminiguy6032
    @geminiguy6032 6 днів тому +2

    I personally think Crow is auper chill and I love what a big bro he is to all the Satellite kids, but I will never forgive him for stealing Akiza's spotlight. Not only the best Yugioh girl but my favorite 5D's character in general.

  • @BlueKnight931
    @BlueKnight931 6 днів тому +1

    As soon as Crow appeared, the 5d's title for the series didn't make sense. As we had stardust, red dragon archfiend, black rose dragon, ancient fairy dragon, and power tool dragon. Five dragons crow's didn't appear until after the earthbound immortals.

  • @Liz-xq2wi
    @Liz-xq2wi 6 днів тому +1

    Was not expecting the Quinton Review jumpscare.

  • @SiNKarnage
    @SiNKarnage 6 днів тому +1

    20:46 You must be blinded by Rage. The Garage scene in the final episode was a fanservice to all the Yuki shippers unequivocally confirming Yusei and Aki became a thing. You can tell by the way she closes her eyes while close to him and then they disembrace to the fingertips like they did something off camera.

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  6 днів тому +4

      If pokemon does a better scene than that, you know you messed up.

  • @mauritiusblackwell3990
    @mauritiusblackwell3990 2 дні тому

    20:49 I KNOW! It was RIGHT THERE! Fixing Aki was half the reason I decided to rewrite 5D's.
    Also, thanks for doing this video. There were a few things I forgot.

  • @OnurP1
    @OnurP1 6 днів тому +9

    He also took too much screentime in Arc-V as well. All my homies dislike Crow's abundant screentime.

  • @firecrakerj3312
    @firecrakerj3312 6 днів тому +2

    Fun fact: Crow has the same voice actor as Jyuran from Zenkaiger.

    • @SmashBros2009
      @SmashBros2009 6 днів тому +3

      He also has the same VA as Shulk from Xenoblade!

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 3 дні тому +1

    The Dark Signer arc _clearly_ had changes made to it, even it's not exactly clear why. Crow was obviously either _never_ meant to be a signer or at the least he wasn't supposed to become one before Leo (maybe he was at least meant to serve as a sixth ranger type character) as the _already introduced_ Leo owned the dragon that was originally Life Stream Dragon which was hinted at being the fifth dragon namesake of the show (the 5th D) as early as Episode 30 (you know, the one Crow was introduced in? ) during the 3000 BCE Nazca battle against the Earthbound Immortals that Black-Winged Dragon wasn't present for (oddly Episode 113 had the 8000 BCE Nazca battle against Red Nova where Black-Wing Dragon was there and Life Stream Dragon wasn't)

  • @shapesnatch1341
    @shapesnatch1341 4 дні тому +1

    Crow is the reason Aki was reduced to a cheerleader and that can never be forgiven. Anything else you have to say on the matter doesn't matter.

    • @TenebraeXVII
      @TenebraeXVII 16 годин тому

      You have it completely backwards. Aki had to be reduced because her VA was no longer as available to record due to major changes in her life (getting married and starting a family). Crow's expanded role was just filling the vacuum that IRL circumstances caused, and someone had to fill that hole.

  • @alcatrazvongola
    @alcatrazvongola 6 днів тому +1

    Luke reminds me of Crow a lot. The plot bent over backwards for him at every turn and he never really developed as a character until the last episode when Yuga gave him a well-deserved loss.

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 6 днів тому +1

    My biggest gripe is that he took away Signer status from Leo until the final season.
    But hey, that’s a minor problem by comparison to what you dislike about him.

  • @Jessica_25
    @Jessica_25 5 днів тому

    Not like they ever told us, but I always suspected that the reason we didn’t see Crow until later on was because he might have had run-ins with law enforcement. We learned from Yusei that the marks on their faces were only given once they were imprisoned in this dystopian future, so Crow bearing so many marks made me think he must have gone to jail quite a number of times before the series began.

  • @BeaglzRok1
    @BeaglzRok1 11 годин тому

    My personal gripe was that the Signers and Dark Signers were set up to have five dragons fighting the Earthbound Immortals, and Black-Winged Dragon was not one of them. Ancient Fairy Dragon is absent from Luna's deck because it's a plot point that it was kidnapped in the Monster World, but there's zero explanation for where Black-Winged Dragon disappeared to after the flashback to fighting Red Nova, or why Life Stream Dragon was both absent from that flashback and hiding in Power Tool Dragon. Rex had the recurring Sun and Moon dragons, but it would have been great if he had the Life Stream Dragon card as a second boss alongside his Condor Immortal. That way you could have a moment like Grandpa's stolen Blue-Eyes betraying Kaiba or Timaeus refusing to listen to Yami after using the Orichalcos to win; while driving at high speeds in the sky, the Life Stream Dragon card just... flies off of Rex's D-Wheel as he loses the mark. Then Leo can "find" it later when it's plot relevant to keep the transformation sequence idea they had since the start but didn't deliver on until damn near the end of the last arc.
    You could also just commit to Crow being a guy that while he wants to help out his friends, he just can't fit child care, holding odd jobs, being the mechanic needed on standby during the races, AND racing for the team, and so Aki gets to be the third participant in the tournament where she can get character development. You can even keep the budding friendship, except it's on the sidelines while he's fixing her D-Wheel following the loss, instead of what feels like being coddled by the person she had to replace. If you really want to make him the Joey of the group, he should have a Shooting Star Dragon moment during the Blood Mefist duel (which should happen sooner and Pearson just makes QOL improvements for the orphans instead of a D-Wheel) where he gets a NEW signer dragon that the Crimson Dragon CREATES ON THE SPOT, probably using one of the Blackwing boss monsters, to combat the Card of Darkness and avenge Pearson.
    Once again, you can lean into being a sort of mentor for Leo, who at this point is probably dealing with the grief of now being shut out of the five Signer slots and absolutely feeling like the weakest link snubbed by the plot. Maybe give him his own arc where he tries to hunt down either a Card of Darkness to prove himself against or find the lost card that Rex used and everyone-but-mostly-Crow help him accept that they don't think any less of him for something none of them had control over. Crow, Aki, and the twins could really make for a great found-family side-group that would explain WHY Crow gets to butt in on Aki's duel against Sherry, even if he's not romantically involved.
    TL;DR: hindsight is absolutely 20:20

  • @TheEclipsedLock
    @TheEclipsedLock 6 днів тому

    I feel like we have reached the climax of the MangaKamen vs Crow arc, can't wait to see who's the next big bad in the next arc :p

  • @what1fun1v3rs3
    @what1fun1v3rs3 6 днів тому +3

    Crow Hogan not to be confused with Bulk Bogan

  • @theownerofthisaccount2521
    @theownerofthisaccount2521 6 днів тому +1

    Well here one of the bird themed characters mentioned last video being ready for the slaughter. A little surprise he was first but a pleasant surprise as I actually never heard of him before

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  6 днів тому +2

      Well, wanted to save Stolas for July.

  • @heardofrvb
    @heardofrvb 6 днів тому

    So, when are you gonna do a video on Sash Lilac?

  • @andym2090
    @andym2090 6 днів тому +1

    Wait random thought, How can there be Filler episodes when the manga is completely different and came out after the anime

    • @cosmicspacething3474
      @cosmicspacething3474 6 днів тому +3

      There were filler episodes?? You mean they could’ve just given the other characters development while still having Crow be at the center of things?!

    • @Masterblader158
      @Masterblader158 6 днів тому +3

      For anime original series filler is still a thing in having non main plot related episodes to fill up time for main writing team to plan stuff out and be stuff that let's animators take it a bit easier. Like it's not as obvious as with series that are adapted from LN series or manga but you can still see the "gotta buy time" aspects seep through.

  • @shadownightdragon6524
    @shadownightdragon6524 6 днів тому

    What are your thoughts about Leo becoming a signer?

  • @soranora4597
    @soranora4597 6 днів тому +1

    I've been rewatching 5ds as of late, and I have been able to notice the points you've brought up. Heck I even skipped a few of his one off duels with random one off characters like the dude who had Time Wizard. Was Crow my favorite 5ds character? No he just gave me a few good laughs thanks to the dub and in Tag force

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 3 дні тому +1

    13:14 Rex was a signer.
    But neither Godwin brother ever had a signer dragon. Does strike as a bit weird. Did Life Stream Dragon reject them and hid away under the power suppressing and perception filtering armor of Power Tool Dragon that could fool people attuned to card spirits like Luna and psychic duelists like Aki and Divine? That's my guess because it's never even explained how or why it became Power Tool Dragon. Another clear sign that the Dark Signer arc was changed at some point.

  • @Animestar21
    @Animestar21 6 днів тому +16

    Fortunely, they did make up for it with Shark in Zexal

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher 6 днів тому +1

      I mean Shark was the actual Zexal rival

    • @lassegrotkjr6326
      @lassegrotkjr6326 6 днів тому +1

      Glad there’s someone in the yu gi oh community besides me, that can see how perfect fore the best friend role Shark is, that he choses to see him as the best friend, rather that Bronk the nothing character.

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher 6 днів тому +1

      @@lassegrotkjr6326He doesn't have the best friend role, that was moreso Kite if anything. Tons of merchandise that features only rivals features Shark and Yuma, even the duel Opera a Japanese event where the voice actors for the rival and main character duel only has Shark and Yuma and never once Kite.

    • @esteban8471
      @esteban8471 6 днів тому +2

      ​@@Honest_Mids_MasherShark was an interesting middle ground between best friend and rival, which is probably why you could label him as either. Yuma outright calls Shark his best friend during the Nasch duel. Kaito was more of a minor rival/benchmark for Yuma to try and reach, and after the WDC he was more of a friend than anything else.

  • @Infovorousness
    @Infovorousness 6 днів тому

    My head canon for Crow’s time in Sector Security is that he was trying to see how much stuff he could steal from their offices before getting caught

  • @dokuganryu1565
    @dokuganryu1565 6 днів тому +1

    23:15
    THIS!
    Looking back to all of this now it made me remember just how everything about this guy looks like it was thought of at the last minute.
    His debut, out of nowhere.
    His friendship with Jack and Yusei, out of nowhere.
    His move to 3rd MC, out of nowhere.
    His mark, out of nowhere.
    His Dragon (ffs, that makes them 6D's now), out of nowhere.
    I'm so annoyed at all the decisions that were made with this character and all the character colateral damage.

  • @Modeganja
    @Modeganja 6 днів тому +2

    What about in arc v???

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  6 днів тому +5

      That's a WHOLE other can of worms.

  • @dspace4514
    @dspace4514 6 днів тому +50

    Its honestly astonishing how the TCG influenced the anime due to the popularity of Blackwings because wasnt Criw originally supposed to be a Dark Signer, hence why the final Earthbound is a bird. Also the fact that Crow survived by just hiding in a fridge.

    • @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira
      @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira 6 днів тому +7

      But all the yugioh fans need to accept, than that happened with crow is BETTER than yusaku, he losed the ace card firewall dragon and the anime started to launch a lot of new powerful ace monsters like firewall xyz, cyberse clock wyvern, firewall darkfluid, acesscode talker and most part of that new ace monsters appeared in one or two episodes, and remenbering:
      Vrains started the production in the same time with arc v final arc and darkside of dimensions a high budget anime movie. Resulting in a lot of problems in the story like after episode 15/16 have a new recap episode after 6 episodes, or the fact than had one worker in vrains(probably the director) talking online than the series started with a lot of problems, and boom firewall dragon being banned

    • @Zetact_
      @Zetact_ 6 днів тому +4

      @@Paulo-gabriel-de-lira Yusaku's Ace Monster was Decode Talker from the jump, the "Firewall Dragon was his ace monster" is an unsubstantiated rumor.

    • @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira
      @Paulo-gabriel-de-lira 6 днів тому +13

      @@Zetact_ its because firewall is more like a normal ace monster, looks, he has 2500 of attack, like dark magician, neos, stardust and you understand, he was used in the most dangerous situation during the duel with revolver, decode talker is more like a flame wingman before neos appears

    • @Zetact_
      @Zetact_ 6 днів тому +6

      @@Paulo-gabriel-de-lira The theory is that the banning of Firewall Dragon made it "lose" the status of ace monster except it just never had that status. In the marketing of the series it was prominent but never given priority over Decode Talker, and while it is certainly true that Firewall Dragon stopped being used in the anime after it was banned, that was well into season 2 and even before season 2, it was rarely used.
      For as blatant as it gets, Firewall Dragon was legal during the season 1 finale, where Firewall Dragon was summoned unceremoniously to be used as Link Material to summon Decode Talker which was the monster used to get the win. The only other duels that Firewall was summoned in are one against Revolver which it was given the win because it was Firewall's debut duel and one against Akira where Decode Talker was just as, if not more important, in the duel.
      Plus, you know, Yusaku is associated with the Dark Ignis so it's pretty obvious why the DARK monster is his ace.
      Really it's just people reading into "noo the protag's ace needs to have 2500 ATK" when that's not a rule. Like people say "the rival's ace needs 3K ATK" when regardless of who you think is the rival in GX, the "rule" didn't even last that long.
      If you count Rush Duel series, there have been as many protag ace monsters without 2500/2000 (ignoring Link Monsters' lack of DEF) than there have been with the statline.

    • @DarkSymphony777
      @DarkSymphony777 6 днів тому +6

      ​@Zetact_ I count firewall as a ace monster. Or at least a second ace monster, like how Jaden has two aces in flame wingman and neos

  • @SmashBros2009
    @SmashBros2009 6 днів тому +1

    After all these years, Mangakamen finally goes fully in-depth regarding his hate for Crow. Interesting....🤔

  • @sanzyboy3952
    @sanzyboy3952 5 днів тому +1

    And all of that happened because Konami wanted to advertise and sell blackwing cards....Yep

  • @cliffordmac
    @cliffordmac 3 дні тому

    Any chance you would be interested in doing a 5ds rewrite? I would watch that 1000 time.

  • @WeebGuru6
    @WeebGuru6 6 днів тому +2

    Can we talk about things zexal did right cuz my gosh objectively it is the best series

  • @abyz9774
    @abyz9774 5 днів тому

    Idk cuz I don’t see why they couldn’t Leo his mark in the dark signer duel and still give Crow a mark in the Goodwin duel.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 3 дні тому +1

    14:16 Life Stream Dragon on the other mark of the claw...

  • @thatzombiplayer7993
    @thatzombiplayer7993 6 днів тому +2

    I was always a Kaiba and Jack and I want this to be known before I say, I can't stand Crow in the English dub but in Japanese was bearable

  • @mgbenz
    @mgbenz 6 днів тому +1

    Even in Arc-V Crow also fucking stole screentime by defeating characters like Gon and even Shun of all people. Both characters disappearing for a good lot of the arc after and only coming back in the climax. And of course Crow still becomes a recurring character after the Synchro arc even though there was no point to his character already. He even gets to be the first character to get uncarded because he's just that much of a creator's pet.

  • @primedialga
    @primedialga 5 днів тому

    well, crow being a late addition which might not have even been planed out from the start (as multiple contradictions in the plot point out, as shown in the video) there is another point everyone seems to have missed:
    all signer dragons have a different attribute, except for black-winged dragon, which shares an attribute with red dragon archfiend.
    so, if any, it would make the most sense if there was originally a 6th character with a water dragon

  • @neostardustdragon1018
    @neostardustdragon1018 6 днів тому +1

    They could have teamed Aki, Sherry, and Carly as a team