Nobody can just play the fucking game anymore. Everyone has to play like they’re real life navy seals whose family is going to be killed irl if they lose.
It’s fun to play well. Idk why people complain about people wanting to win. When I play you better believe I’m drop shotting, jump shotting, dive shooting, slide canceling and moving around to the absolute best of my ability… yet it’s still done casually on my end. If I’m not playing a video game to its full potential, or at least to what my skills allow me to play… then what’s the point?
@@patricklang7162 I agree... people complaining about SBMM I don't fully agree with. It's like so they want people to play like bots so they can have an easy go at it? The goal of the game is to kill or be killed and the majority know how to play therfore most matches are not going to be casual and easy unless you get matched against players with low skills. Xdefiant has no sbmm and his what that game is not easy at all.
I stopped playing call of duty because of sbmm, it's also ABSURD that lobbies are being disbanded after each game. It feels like you don't play the game but the game plays you instead.
What has gaming become?.. Were just being manipulated and abused and keep taking it. I think i'm gonna just leave modern games and stick with old games or just stop gaming over all. I'm getting fed up with this shit.
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@@wutangisforever2798people blame sbmm when in reality everybody is a sweat. Gaming is more competitive now that’s the reality. More kids want to be famous streamers and pro players than before.
@@theacehavin7918 so you are saying more of the playerbase is good? Then explain to me why activision claims sbmm is a thing because of the large amount of casual playerbase and they need to protect them?
Funny activision argues that without sbmm people would stop playing when the golden era of cod had basically no sbmm, if anyone truly loves cod they should stop buying this ass game.
The people who sbmm protects are the people who don't actually play PvP in general. Like in Destiny 2 they killed the game off pvp whise with sbmm on top of the P2P connection and the people they are protecting aka the 0.5-.1.0s don't even really play that many games per season. But we fk over anyone over 1.5 by placing the in lobbies across the world so they can lag and make every fight an unenjoyable 50-50 for both sides.
You’ve answered the question yourself. They crank up the SBMM in order to protect the lower skilled/ new players. If they get slammed every lobby by us then there’s no chance they’ll preorder. They know we’ll just pre-order anyway..
I don't mind SBMM, what i mind is EOMM. I want to play against people who are close to my skill level. But i dont want my match to be manipulated like EOMM does.
I played the beta for like an hour and didn’t go back. It’s the type of sweatiness where you can’t even blink. Like literally blinking is a disadvantage. I bet in the future there’s gonna be videos of players saying they get an advantage by not blinking and taping their eyes open with some kind of machine that sprays lubricant into their eyes. I’m serious… these new age gaming tryhards will do ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING to win. If there was some real life glitch where you had to swim in a swamp full of alligators, and you got perfect aim after, people would do it.
All jokes aside you are right and it's a serious addiction. Especially with young people who have mental health issues or suffer with depression they will use the game to get them through their life. Sweating all day & night never getting normal sleeps or leaving their homes.
Why do they not make two unranked modes: casual and "sbmm" and one of them has the algorythm and the other one doesn't? And ofc. will there be an additional ranked game mode.
Biggest problem with the sbmm eomm algorithm is the unfairness of it. Losing one match doesn’t make too much of a change on your next match because that next match will be as sweaty as the one you lost in. Another reason why it’s so annoying to deal with is that if you back out of a sweaty match the algorithm gives you your loss but doesn’t take that loss into account, so you end up with the same sweaty match the next one you join. So backing out doesn’t change your outcome either. This is why high level players aren’t having as much fun and some are leaving for other games. It’s way too strict and unfair.
@@Godric_71 it's a technology Activision uses in their games. They have a patent on it. Just go look up a video on it. Pretty much they rig all gunfights. They control the amount of damage you deal, and the amount of damage your enemy deals and uses an algorithm to determine who wins the fight. That's why the TTK(time to kill) feels so inconsistent. Sometimes you shred someone. Other times you swear you're hitting your shots and the game gives you hitmarkers and you die.
Yeah, we forgot to mention this point. But it also seems to always be that those on your team are always horrible, so losing is inevitable. Not sure if this is placebo or not, but boy does it feel like the truth.
SBMM is getting more and more ridiculous, what you said in the video is facts 💯 and im just not really having fun anymore versing myself and getting sweated on every game. That Bot lobby was wtf i have never seen a lobby like that ever. Kinda reminds me of those lobbies in Bo2 when you got christmas noobs. CoD Veterans just aren’t having fun anymore
honestly i have zero problem with sbmm from a conceptual standpoint, but my issue is how im not that good at the game, yet im getting put into lobbies with really good players. my issue with sbmm is more so how its putting me in the wrong lobbies, not how sbmm works as a concept.
Last cod I actually grinded out, camos, rank, all that was BO3! I loved that game. I enjoyed the walk running and I thought it was the last good game they made, my opinion...
You can always jump in a nd play whoever you want. The stress you feel is your own mental pressure you’re doing to yourself because you decide how important winning and losing is to you
shouldn't that be a reason to remove sbmm? "because you decide how important winning and losing is to you" And constantly dying by sweats because I am going for camo's is not fun
@@SlLENCE you are a sweat if you’re in their lobby’s because your skill level matches theirs. All people want is lobby with weaker players to dunk on for views and content. Can’t get 30 kill streaks when your up against similar skilled players
@@SlLENCE SBMM will always pit you against your similar skill. In my case, there is no slide cancel or tactical run. I don't use those things, no one in my lobby uses them.
@@nicolasoliveira4903 not even tactical run? Thats like purposely turning aim assist off. You are probably in the lowest skilled lobbies possible if nobody uses it
This IS NOT the same Treyarch team that made black ops 1, 2 and 3 (and even 4). This is a team put together by activision to suit THEIR needs, not the player base. This game feels like a new MW game, not a treyarch game.
One aspect of COD, is that you remember the time when you come home from school and hop on MW2 or MW3 or BO1/2, that time there was no or very limited SBMM and yes the age range for players definitely ranged from 10 to 40 but what’s important to consider is that the new age of Gaming is designed for the new generations, to keep them locked in the frustration zone and to keep them playing. And spending money with their parents’ credit cards. I have personally moved on from COD, and quite frankly online gaming now and again I would load up BO3 or MW3 and just play against Bots or even the campaign. SBMM will NEVER be removed because As he said it’s a business investment. Why remove it when it’s generating massive amounts of income.
The biggest factor is ego. Just use off- meta stuff anyway. Variety of skill, another contention... you learn nothing if you sweep them, if not, you get faster, which will snowball to a worse outcome. If you mean playstyle, what is a playstyle that contends with the gameplay shown in Babylon Thanks to content creators, they hyper-accelerate destruction of class creativity. It was a thing back then, but not a problem. It started being a problem when everyone was using c4 and emp in BO2, late in its life cycle.
it should be a sort of bracket 0-2 meaning the people albert were going against and then 3-10 everyone else should get free reign i think that would be the absolute best for everyone🤷♂️(considering we already have hidden mmr)
the only people complaining about bot lobbies are the people getting slammed themselves. That's just a fact. still don't get why people are so worried about what everyone else is doing.
I watched my TTK go from 3-4 bullets to 5-6 and then everyone has a “ghost” flak jacket. & then revenge spawns . Packet Burst is how they disguise EOMM. The better you get the harder the game is enjoyable.
It’s a vicious cycle, the game forces you to sweat thus creating a sweatier player base. I didn’t used to b hop or jump shot but now I need to in all my matches just to remain positive or with the obj.
Another issue is ranked they have sbmm in pubs to but they still make rank a xp farm for them. Most people get hardstuck way before they hit what they should be Fr. I watched mo cryptic break out of a gold acc in like 14 matches… totally rigged u go 45 and 15 3-0 on Smurfed accs fucking crim 15s and get 45 sr…
Yeah SBMM/EOMM bothers me a lot. Several youtubers talk about it and say exactly what I'm thinking. No, i dont want to Pub-stomp every lobby. I just dont want it being rigged to have me get 8 kills, 2 deaths, then have me placed in a lobby with 11 people who naturally have a 3-4 kdr. Sometimes i want to just grind some camos on weapons like snipers and not have to worry about 6 people on the other team all using the meta setup. Sometimes. I used to be that guy that shit on people who would reverse-boost. Now i wonder why i dont just do it myself. Not for easier lobbies, but simply for less predictable lobbies.
My whole time during the beta this weekend I got the helicopter 3 times. The shit is a struggle. It’s not even a good helicopter the shit gets shot down as soon as it comes in. Why do they make it cost so high
I personally think of it as putting the game in a vacuum. There's a reason why at the pro level they GA things because It takes away from the skill gap and enjoyability of the game. normal lobbys don't have this so players are going to use every little thing to get an advantage over each other so the second you use anything sub optimal you're setting yourself up to lose. SBMM creates the vacuum if it is to high and cumbersome. The players in this video should be protected but I always ask at what point should you "just get good". at a point you need to be pushed into the deep end and play the game but at the same time players that have put in time should not be restricted as much as they are only allowing in the hot tub on the side. I get it no one wants to show up to Sunday league and play a full team of pros but that's the whole point of a rank system and players that want to look for that actually have a place to be rather than just artificially creating it in every single lobby.
i hate it. like one game i could win with alot of kills and the next i can barely move my character before a full team of movement demons with jackal PDWs absolutely obliterate us
Try playing FFA and you will see how bad the SBMM actually is. FFA is by far the most sweatiest mode now. It used to be such a relaxing mode years ago in the golden era.
Honestly, I tell myself I’m having fun but I’m really just getting punished over and over and over again for trying to be good at the game. It’s sad and depressing.
My first games i went triple or quadruple positive and played with my friend who went like positive but like around 1,3 kd, after 3 tot 4 games lobbies got sweathier and i was most of the time going around 1.2 or 1.3 but my friend was not having a great time because he was almost every time negative except when he started camping. I think this sbmm is the worst of all, it did not bother me in mw3 cause i was able to get dna bomb but now its like you dont get a break from the good players. And it is only the beta …
I’ve played Cod since the original game & I’ve hit max level & Prestige in every game leading up to BO4. Once I found out about Sbmm I never bought a cod again & never will. I want to do well because I did, not because the game made it so
Honestly I could look past the SBMM if they designed the maps in a way that doesn’t allow people from other areas of the map to 3 tap me through 2 doorways and a window that all line up. If I could just worry about a person in front or behind me, it wouldn’t be that bad to be honest. No people above or below me in the most random spots. These maps feels like they would be really good for 3rd person play. And the fact you can climb and jump to almost everything. People are around you for 360 degrees in most places on these maps. It’s ridiculous
I just get tired of having to sit up and try ALL the time. I don’t mind going up against comp, it was like that in the Glory days, you would create a rivalry in a lobby, learn and get better but the matchmaking was random, this shit is literally taking someone on the same skill level as you or even better and you have to endure a sweatfest constantly, eventually you just get tired and get off all together because it becomes more stressful than fun.
Im a solo queue crim 3 in regular ranked and a 4 stack iri in mw2. Every game of this beta was against the actual pros that were streaming or people like SnDylan and wager kids. Dont get me wrong, im a wager guy as well, but i want to sweat in ranked and wagers. NOT PUBS
On my first game I had the highest sbmm ever, I couldn't believe it, musta came from my mw3 account. But then I joined my mate after getting used to the game, who has a 1kd, I've never seen stuff so casual😭
They try to protect the 'bad' players and make their experience better without making them get better and improve. The SBMM will feel the same to a player with a 2 k/d ratio, a 4 k/d and even a 0.8 k/d just because they match people with the same level of skill and experience. For me as a ~2 k/d player, the beta experience was not enjoyable. The one game I was dropping 70 and the next one I was getting spawn trapped with the other players on the other team dropping 120 with ease. I was simply not on their level. Protecting the 'bad' players won't make them better and they may not like it, but that is how life works in general. Why change it in a game?
There needs to be something organized with the big guys in the community, even getting everyone in on it if we want a change. It would be cool to see some bigger figures like you guys put that together whether it’s a petition or something else idfk . But I think that would maybe get activision to use their heads. Idk why we don’t have ranked and casual and ranked would have sbmm. Maybe this is dumb .. im wicked baked and wanna play some cod lol 💀
I personally think that someone high up in the call of duty community should be able to pull together a pole where everyone within the cod community can cast a vote to keep or discard SBMM and submit that to Activision. That would make the voice louder. I know alot of casual player that dislikes sbmm and iam sure their part of the majority.
I'm Albert I get to play a couple hours a week and those hours feel like a chore tbh.. don't even wanna play because the one game I wanna play is so broken...
Played closed beta and enjoyed it, played weekend 2 open beta and just played on Friday and that's it. Reached level 30 not really interested in bo6 ATM anymore.
That’s where I am glad eastern company are showing/giving us the experience we ask for. Like Elden ring, black myth wukong etcetra. I know these titles do not fall under the COD universe, but the progressive evolvement and resulting these great titles, I don’t doubt that we can maybe hope for/ come across some company who actually care about players not just looking to cash cow.
my big issue is i die i get hit twice but kill cm shows i got hit 6 times why does it do this tht and i can aim right t people unloaad nd miss thee shot i watch kill cam and i am shotting way to the right
I'm Albert. But even I don't want this strict SBMM. But tobe fair I also don't want to play against bunny hopping, booty sliding, jobless sweats constantly either.
I think if SBMM is gonna be in the full game then it should be enabled in the BETA since it's a true representation of the experience of playing the game. It would be a false representation without it...Whether SBMM should be in the game or not, that's a different matter.
Activision protects new players that will most likely buy the game when it’s free or on sale. They will most likely not buy the next cod since they rarely play. Yet the better player that always reaches max level and pre orders every cod gets punished.
At a certain point if ur good enough this won't affect you that much. Especially now in the beginning we have to figure things out forst and get used to the games. My last 7 Games in MW3 were 2+ KD's only rarely I drop down to a 1.5. I reached Iridescent rank in Season 2 and it doesn't affect me too much. I FEEL it in BO6 but as soon as I got used to all the mechanics etc. I'll definetly be at that point again. So that's fine by me.
The lobbies are not almost exhausting they ARE exhausting. My friends and I can't play more than an hour at a time before getting off and not getting back on because it's mentally tiring to play.
I think there should be a slight change I enjoy playing with my buddies squading up buy my skill level is higher so they always struggle and then end up leaving there has to be a way around this
literally 1st game of beta had fun was exciting for it cause it was different jump slide dive any direction sounded cool then got into my second match just to play and make it seem like its cod 2024 cld champs 1mil on the line. now cant even boot the BETA up without it crashing. seems crazy all these cod devs can get on twitter but cant fix the simplist form of a video game
When you say things like this it only admits your stupidity and ignorance. The game isn’t just “putting you with your own people” the game is intentionally manipulating your ping, weapon damage and other patents so you can do bad. EOMM is not ok but if it was just SBMM it would be fine.
@@SlLENCE Why not look at it as a challenge instead? Or a puzzle to be worked out in a way, if the enemy is moving more aggressively than I am, i try to counter by either moving more slowly or patrolling an area for a time to get the upper hand. There's still fun to be had, even against a room full of sweaty nerds ;)
@@jstrangelook that's what ranked mode is for. What you just said can literally be seen as an argument against sbmm. Bad players just need to treat it as a puzzle and try to gain an upper hand. They can still have fun while playing against sweats.......right?
It's ok, if their data shows it's better for player retention on average then so be it. I'm not getting retention from that though, so I'm going to continue skipping CoD.
I wish they would just do what xDefiant did, have like an sbmm welcome playlist for up to say level 30. Once you’re 30 you’ve played the game a fair amount, gotten used to things. And your out into the world of none sbmm lol
KRNG Clan have been reverse boosting for over 10 years and they have been 2 boxing since MW2019 when the real SBMM as we know today kicked in. Yet here they are making videos like this. Krng Hero is uploading videos of him getting double nukes against lobbies filled with people who have disabilities! He literally deletes about 30 comments a video of people calling him out on his RB. It's so obvious and he's not the only one doing it. Faze Jev is the only COD creator worth watching.
I believe this franchise will be forced to stop this eventually. It’s very manipulative and borderline unethical. Basically the same psychology tactics they use against gambling addicts lol.
Idk what you're talking about I'm frying the majority of the time I have 20 hrs in the beta and I go double positive multiple times in a row sniping alone and with the reg guns I can get up to 3 e/d or k/d and I win a Good bit too. It's really not that bad. If sbmm was how it was the like 5 years I wouldn't be getting more than a 1.1 k/d and I'd be getting screwed every other game. I get sweaty lobbies here and there it's really not bad. I dead ass am like a 1 k/d I'm every other cod.
Every match is on the line! You have to fuckin sweat and play like your in a fuckin tournament or something just to keep up! It's not about getting good, I been playing this shit for 20 years and this shit is not casual anymore... I remember clan wars and that's what it reminds me of lol
I don't think it matters almost everyone 2 boxes any way Now. I saw a lot of ppl dropping double nukes during beta, lol I can only imagine when the game actually comes out
I feel like the early access first week the SBMM was insane. I was lucky to go positive. I was get slammed. After the open access on the second week I started getting a lot more games with 2+ kd high kill games. I definitely feel like the SBMM was a lot stronger than MW3
i think sbmm lead to people start to cheat more because their lobbys are just unplayable
True
Instead of unplayable we should just say unenjoyable. It fits more imo
Projection much?
@wutangisforever2798 😂😂😂
Could be a factor......
Nobody can just play the fucking game anymore. Everyone has to play like they’re real life navy seals whose family is going to be killed irl if they lose.
It’s fun to play well. Idk why people complain about people wanting to win. When I play you better believe I’m drop shotting, jump shotting, dive shooting, slide canceling and moving around to the absolute best of my ability… yet it’s still done casually on my end. If I’m not playing a video game to its full potential, or at least to what my skills allow me to play… then what’s the point?
@@patricklang7162facts
Nothing but facts
@@patricklang7162 I agree... people complaining about SBMM I don't fully agree with.
It's like so they want people to play like bots so they can have an easy go at it?
The goal of the game is to kill or be killed and the majority know how to play therfore most matches are not going to be casual and easy unless you get matched against players with low skills.
Xdefiant has no sbmm and his what that game is not easy at all.
Real life navy seals don’t dive around corners this is cod not real life pal tf are you on about 😂😂
I stopped playing call of duty because of sbmm, it's also ABSURD that lobbies are being disbanded after each game. It feels like you don't play the game but the game plays you instead.
Waaa
@@wutangisforever2798I mean if you were any good at the game you’d feel the same way
And if they wanted to, they could just turn it off with a switch of a button…
It takes more than that, but it could be “turned off”
@@WarKlutch a leaker showed some code that shows its that easy, but take it with a grain of salt
@@WarKlutch its literally 1 line of code kid calm down lmao
@@moneybilla The only "kid" here is you. Software Engineer here, it's not just 1 line of code.
@@WarKlutchit really doesn’t take that much more than that lmao. They could have it off within 10 minutes max
Worst thing for me is solo queueing, and coming up against a party of 6 good players.
They really should bring back “Mercenary Moshpit”. I haven’t seen a solo queue mode in CoD since BO2.
thats my problem to as a solo player going against full partys what a joke
Ong I hated ts in mw3 so bad💀🤦🏾♂️
It absolutely has been made more strict and they're using "eliminations" to disguise your real KD which would prove it.
Went 71 and 38 to go 16 and 16 🤣😭
Nahh facts
Same I dropped 69 and 24 then it was downhill from there.
Ong 😂 I’m not even that good I drop like 40 sum and it’s over wit
I got a 108-53 and was torturing dealing with wtf lobbies
On god u just explained my cod situation
What has gaming become?.. Were just being manipulated and abused and keep taking it. I think i'm gonna just leave modern games and stick with old games or just stop gaming over all.
I'm getting fed up with this shit.
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Sbmm gets worse every year i hate it
Plasters get better every year. Cope harder.
@@wutangisforever2798people blame sbmm when in reality everybody is a sweat. Gaming is more competitive now that’s the reality. More kids want to be famous streamers and pro players than before.
@@theacehavin7918 so you are saying more of the playerbase is good? Then explain to me why activision claims sbmm is a thing because of the large amount of casual playerbase and they need to protect them?
@@theacehavin7918tbh it’s the mixture of the both lol
Funny activision argues that without sbmm people would stop playing when the golden era of cod had basically no sbmm, if anyone truly loves cod they should stop buying this ass game.
@Sapeee99 it did have sbmm is called rank play but now they have it in any mode with eomm manipulation
The people who sbmm protects are the people who don't actually play PvP in general.
Like in Destiny 2 they killed the game off pvp whise with sbmm on top of the P2P connection and the people they are protecting aka the 0.5-.1.0s don't even really play that many games per season.
But we fk over anyone over 1.5 by placing the in lobbies across the world so they can lag and make every fight an unenjoyable 50-50 for both sides.
@fotis3v480 they dont play much maybe but they do spend money and that's why microsoft/activision is not removing sbmm/ eomm
It existed, but it was weak and considered as a conspiracy theory
@Marky-Mark1337 it existed yes it was called rank mode
You’ve answered the question yourself. They crank up the SBMM in order to protect the lower skilled/ new players. If they get slammed every lobby by us then there’s no chance they’ll preorder. They know we’ll just pre-order anyway..
There’s no chance they’ll stick around to buy bundles more like it.
havent bought since mw19
No, many people, including me, wouldn't buy it because of the SBMM.
@@chuyyou You are a minority.
Nowdays when new cod comes out i just check is the sbmm removed and then continue my old school runescape grind😂
@@Boobyhuntaah don't forget eomm manipulation
I don't mind SBMM, what i mind is EOMM. I want to play against people who are close to my skill level. But i dont want my match to be manipulated like EOMM does.
That's what Call Of Duty League Play is for.
There's no way to disagree with you.
I played the beta for like an hour and didn’t go back. It’s the type of sweatiness where you can’t even blink. Like literally blinking is a disadvantage. I bet in the future there’s gonna be videos of players saying they get an advantage by not blinking and taping their eyes open with some kind of machine that sprays lubricant into their eyes. I’m serious… these new age gaming tryhards will do ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING to win. If there was some real life glitch where you had to swim in a swamp full of alligators, and you got perfect aim after, people would do it.
😂😂
All jokes aside you are right and it's a serious addiction. Especially with young people who have mental health issues or suffer with depression they will use the game to get them through their life. Sweating all day & night never getting normal sleeps or leaving their homes.
Why do they not make two unranked modes: casual and "sbmm" and one of them has the algorythm and the other one doesn't? And ofc. will there be an additional ranked game mode.
Coming from R6, and no prior COD or BO experience. I actually really liked the movement.
Fr I fw it
Biggest problem with the sbmm eomm algorithm is the unfairness of it. Losing one match doesn’t make too much of a change on your next match because that next match will be as sweaty as the one you lost in. Another reason why it’s so annoying to deal with is that if you back out of a sweaty match the algorithm gives you your loss but doesn’t take that loss into account, so you end up with the same sweaty match the next one you join. So backing out doesn’t change your outcome either. This is why high level players aren’t having as much fun and some are leaving for other games. It’s way too strict and unfair.
What is eomm?
@@Godric_71 it's a technology Activision uses in their games. They have a patent on it. Just go look up a video on it. Pretty much they rig all gunfights. They control the amount of damage you deal, and the amount of damage your enemy deals and uses an algorithm to determine who wins the fight. That's why the TTK(time to kill) feels so inconsistent. Sometimes you shred someone. Other times you swear you're hitting your shots and the game gives you hitmarkers and you die.
They love matchmaking sweats but not good teammates smh 🤦🏾♂️
@@Akeemdaleo_ it's called eomm manipulation
Yeah, we forgot to mention this point. But it also seems to always be that those on your team are always horrible, so losing is inevitable. Not sure if this is placebo or not, but boy does it feel like the truth.
SBMM is getting more and more ridiculous, what you said in the video is facts 💯 and im just not really having fun anymore versing myself and getting sweated on every game. That Bot lobby was wtf i have never seen a lobby like that ever. Kinda reminds me of those lobbies in Bo2 when you got christmas noobs. CoD Veterans just aren’t having fun anymore
Omg, I can't pub stomp anymore. Let me get myself a team of sweats on my side 😂
People just wanna dunk on other players and feel good about it. And they can’t do that when they play against similar skilled people
honestly i have zero problem with sbmm from a conceptual standpoint, but my issue is how im not that good at the game, yet im getting put into lobbies with really good players. my issue with sbmm is more so how its putting me in the wrong lobbies, not how sbmm works as a concept.
Last cod I actually grinded out, camos, rank, all that was BO3! I loved that game. I enjoyed the walk running and I thought it was the last good game they made, my opinion...
I also like this game, it's a shame it's abandoned.
You can always jump in a nd play whoever you want. The stress you feel is your own mental pressure you’re doing to yourself because you decide how important winning and losing is to you
shouldn't that be a reason to remove sbmm? "because you decide how important winning and losing is to you"
And constantly dying by sweats because I am going for camo's is not fun
@@SlLENCE you are a sweat if you’re in their lobby’s because your skill level matches theirs. All people want is lobby with weaker players to dunk on for views and content. Can’t get 30 kill streaks when your up against similar skilled players
@@homersimpson5501 being good ≠ being a sweat. Not wanting to play against high skill players ≠ wanting to dunk on people
@@SlLENCE SBMM will always pit you against your similar skill. In my case, there is no slide cancel or tactical run. I don't use those things, no one in my lobby uses them.
@@nicolasoliveira4903 not even tactical run? Thats like purposely turning aim assist off. You are probably in the lowest skilled lobbies possible if nobody uses it
This IS NOT the same Treyarch team that made black ops 1, 2 and 3 (and even 4). This is a team put together by activision to suit THEIR needs, not the player base. This game feels like a new MW game, not a treyarch game.
“SBMM Keeps you engaged” I played Friday night and never touched it again all weekend. Considering a refund 😂
This 👆
5:50 this is FACTS. My cousin and nephew both did this exact thing when I got them to try it out.
One aspect of COD, is that you remember the time when you come home from school and hop on MW2 or MW3 or BO1/2, that time there was no or very limited SBMM and yes the age range for players definitely ranged from 10 to 40 but what’s important to consider is that the new age of Gaming is designed for the new generations, to keep them locked in the frustration zone and to keep them playing. And spending money with their parents’ credit cards. I have personally moved on from COD, and quite frankly online gaming now and again I would load up BO3 or MW3 and just play against Bots or even the campaign. SBMM will NEVER be removed because As he said it’s a business investment. Why remove it when it’s generating massive amounts of income.
Its so sweaty its like your bullets reflect off the enemy and richochet back to you lmao. Shoot first die first the game.
The biggest factor is ego. Just use off- meta stuff anyway. Variety of skill, another contention... you learn nothing if you sweep them, if not, you get faster, which will snowball to a worse outcome. If you mean playstyle, what is a playstyle that contends with the gameplay shown in Babylon
Thanks to content creators, they hyper-accelerate destruction of class creativity. It was a thing back then, but not a problem. It started being a problem when everyone was using c4 and emp in BO2, late in its life cycle.
All these bots 😭
it should be a sort of bracket 0-2 meaning the people albert were going against and then 3-10 everyone else should get free reign i think that would be the absolute best for everyone🤷♂️(considering we already have hidden mmr)
the only people complaining about bot lobbies are the people getting slammed themselves. That's just a fact. still don't get why people are so worried about what everyone else is doing.
Little do they know that if I play an absolutely rigged game, I hop off and don’t play for days- a week. Not interested in your BS Activision
I watched my TTK go from 3-4 bullets to 5-6 and then everyone has a “ghost” flak jacket. & then revenge spawns . Packet Burst is how they disguise EOMM. The better you get the harder the game is enjoyable.
It’s a vicious cycle, the game forces you to sweat thus creating a sweatier player base.
I didn’t used to b hop or jump shot but now I need to in all my matches just to remain positive or with the obj.
Keep this coming. BRING BACK KARNAGE SO I CAN RELIVE MY CHILDHOOD
Another issue is ranked they have sbmm in pubs to but they still make rank a xp farm for them. Most people get hardstuck way before they hit what they should be Fr. I watched mo cryptic break out of a gold acc in like 14 matches… totally rigged u go 45 and 15 3-0 on Smurfed accs fucking crim 15s and get 45 sr…
Yeah SBMM/EOMM bothers me a lot. Several youtubers talk about it and say exactly what I'm thinking. No, i dont want to Pub-stomp every lobby. I just dont want it being rigged to have me get 8 kills, 2 deaths, then have me placed in a lobby with 11 people who naturally have a 3-4 kdr.
Sometimes i want to just grind some camos on weapons like snipers and not have to worry about 6 people on the other team all using the meta setup. Sometimes.
I used to be that guy that shit on people who would reverse-boost. Now i wonder why i dont just do it myself. Not for easier lobbies, but simply for less predictable lobbies.
2024 and yall still complaining about sbmm smh
It's painful.
@@KARNAGEclan so many ways to get around sbmm if u still getting sweaty lobbies then u deserve it
Like what then?
I agree with you, well spoken!
My whole time during the beta this weekend I got the helicopter 3 times.
The shit is a struggle. It’s not even a good helicopter the shit gets shot down as soon as it comes in. Why do they make it cost so high
I personally think of it as putting the game in a vacuum. There's a reason why at the pro level they GA things because It takes away from the skill gap and enjoyability of the game. normal lobbys don't have this so players are going to use every little thing to get an advantage over each other so the second you use anything sub optimal you're setting yourself up to lose. SBMM creates the vacuum if it is to high and cumbersome. The players in this video should be protected but I always ask at what point should you "just get good". at a point you need to be pushed into the deep end and play the game but at the same time players that have put in time should not be restricted as much as they are only allowing in the hot tub on the side. I get it no one wants to show up to Sunday league and play a full team of pros but that's the whole point of a rank system and players that want to look for that actually have a place to be rather than just artificially creating it in every single lobby.
i hate it. like one game i could win with alot of kills and the next i can barely move my character before a full team of movement demons with jackal PDWs absolutely obliterate us
genuine advice here, join a party. The game becomes WILDLY less sweaty when you are in a party of at least 2 or 3.
I’ve seen some people talk about this. May be the move with how unbearable this EOMM/SBMM is. Good advice.
Try playing FFA and you will see how bad the SBMM actually is. FFA is by far the most sweatiest mode now. It used to be such a relaxing mode years ago in the golden era.
Shouldn’t be forced to be social just to have a good experience. I’ve always been a solo player js
Honestly, I tell myself I’m having fun but I’m really just getting punished over and over and over again for trying to be good at the game. It’s sad and depressing.
My first games i went triple or quadruple positive and played with my friend who went like positive but like around 1,3 kd, after 3 tot 4 games lobbies got sweathier and i was most of the time going around 1.2 or 1.3 but my friend was not having a great time because he was almost every time negative except when he started camping. I think this sbmm is the worst of all, it did not bother me in mw3 cause i was able to get dna bomb but now its like you dont get a break from the good players. And it is only the beta …
I don't really care i adjust and stomp the sweats its literally players on YOUR skill level so 🤷🏽♂️
Exactly at the end of the day everybody is sweat now. Times have changed that’s just the way it is.
what if you don't want to pub stomp? there are a lot of good players that have different play styles and don't want to pub stomp constantly
as a solo player going against full partys is crazy
I’ve played Cod since the original game & I’ve hit max level & Prestige in every game leading up to BO4. Once I found out about Sbmm I never bought a cod again & never will. I want to do well because I did, not because the game made it so
Honestly I could look past the SBMM if they designed the maps in a way that doesn’t allow people from other areas of the map to 3 tap me through 2 doorways and a window that all line up. If I could just worry about a person in front or behind me, it wouldn’t be that bad to be honest. No people above or below me in the most random spots. These maps feels like they would be really good for 3rd person play. And the fact you can climb and jump to almost everything. People are around you for 360 degrees in most places on these maps. It’s ridiculous
KARNAGE is uploading again. Life is good ❤
I just get tired of having to sit up and try ALL the time. I don’t mind going up against comp, it was like that in the Glory days, you would create a rivalry in a lobby, learn and get better but the matchmaking was random, this shit is literally taking someone on the same skill level as you or even better and you have to endure a sweatfest constantly, eventually you just get tired and get off all together because it becomes more stressful than fun.
Yall cry about everything
Im a solo queue crim 3 in regular ranked and a 4 stack iri in mw2.
Every game of this beta was against the actual pros that were streaming or people like SnDylan and wager kids. Dont get me wrong, im a wager guy as well, but i want to sweat in ranked and wagers. NOT PUBS
I Like Skill Based Match Making.
There is just 0 good reason why it should be Mandatory in ALL modes
On my first game I had the highest sbmm ever, I couldn't believe it, musta came from my mw3 account. But then I joined my mate after getting used to the game, who has a 1kd, I've never seen stuff so casual😭
I think they made it worse this year because assist count as an elimination.
They try to protect the 'bad' players and make their experience better without making them get better and improve. The SBMM will feel the same to a player with a 2 k/d ratio, a 4 k/d and even a 0.8 k/d just because they match people with the same level of skill and experience. For me as a ~2 k/d player, the beta experience was not enjoyable. The one game I was dropping 70 and the next one I was getting spawn trapped with the other players on the other team dropping 120 with ease. I was simply not on their level. Protecting the 'bad' players won't make them better and they may not like it, but that is how life works in general. Why change it in a game?
There needs to be something organized with the big guys in the community, even getting everyone in on it if we want a change. It would be cool to see some bigger figures like you guys put that together whether it’s a petition or something else idfk . But I think that would maybe get activision to use their heads. Idk why we don’t have ranked and casual and ranked would have sbmm. Maybe this is dumb .. im wicked baked and wanna play some cod lol 💀
That’s why they give you kills for assist so you think you’re doing better then you really are
I personally think that someone high up in the call of duty community should be able to pull together a pole where everyone within the cod community can cast a vote to keep or discard SBMM and submit that to Activision. That would make the voice louder. I know alot of casual player that dislikes sbmm and iam sure their part of the majority.
Because all we have is our favorite streamer being our voice, so to Activion they see it's an exception to the rule. JMO.
I'm Albert I get to play a couple hours a week and those hours feel like a chore tbh.. don't even wanna play because the one game I wanna play is so broken...
Played closed beta and enjoyed it, played weekend 2 open beta and just played on Friday and that's it. Reached level 30 not really interested in bo6 ATM anymore.
I wouldnt mind SBMM if range of skill would be a lot wider. Everyone above 0.8-1KD should play together
That’s where I am glad eastern company are showing/giving us the experience we ask for. Like Elden ring, black myth wukong etcetra. I know these titles do not fall under the COD universe, but the progressive evolvement and resulting these great titles, I don’t doubt that we can maybe hope for/ come across some company who actually care about players not just looking to cash cow.
my big issue is i die i get hit twice but kill cm shows i got hit 6 times why does it do this tht and i can aim right t people unloaad nd miss thee shot i watch kill cam and i am shotting way to the right
I’ll never forget the chokehold Karnage had on the cod community back during the golden age of pubstomping
Sbmm/eomm should not be in CASUAL playlists. It's anything but CASUAL. It should only be in RANKED.
I'm Albert. But even I don't want this strict SBMM. But tobe fair I also don't want to play against bunny hopping, booty sliding, jobless sweats constantly either.
Stopped buying cod for the last 4 years because of it, only bought this one for zombies
I think if SBMM is gonna be in the full game then it should be enabled in the BETA since it's a true representation of the experience of playing the game. It would be a false representation without it...Whether SBMM should be in the game or not, that's a different matter.
I miss the days of getting Into a lobby or group of players and staying in there for several games in a row, now they are swapping you out every game
Activision protects new players that will most likely buy the game when it’s free or on sale. They will most likely not buy the next cod since they rarely play. Yet the better player that always reaches max level and pre orders every cod gets punished.
At a certain point if ur good enough this won't affect you that much. Especially now in the beginning we have to figure things out forst and get used to the games. My last 7 Games in MW3 were 2+ KD's only rarely I drop down to a 1.5. I reached Iridescent rank in Season 2 and it doesn't affect me too much. I FEEL it in BO6 but as soon as I got used to all the mechanics etc. I'll definetly be at that point again. So that's fine by me.
So sad when Christmas noobs aren’t even a thing anymore
i have a 1.05 kd and i get put in the most sweatyish lobbys after i play 1 good game
The lobbies are not almost exhausting they ARE exhausting. My friends and I can't play more than an hour at a time before getting off and not getting back on because it's mentally tiring to play.
A new company needs to bring out an fps game that addresses these.
Meanwhile you got gamers coming together to get rid of a black samurai in a fictional game but we can’t come together to get rid of SBM 🙄
spending whole your weekend to level up a gun is so dumb to
NOTI GANG FOR THE GOATS!!!
I think there should be a slight change I enjoy playing with my buddies squading up buy my skill level is higher so they always struggle and then end up leaving there has to be a way around this
Also the disbanding lobbies it keeps people from making friends and rivalries
I've played every cod game there is and since then SBMM has ruined it for sure
literally 1st game of beta had fun was exciting for it cause it was different jump slide dive any direction sounded cool then got into my second match just to play and make it seem like its cod 2024 cld champs 1mil on the line. now cant even boot the BETA up without it crashing. seems crazy all these cod devs can get on twitter but cant fix the simplist form of a video game
They're only putting you in with your own people, you're a sweat too, just accept it ;)
Exactly
what if your good without having to sweat? Should I still be punished for it?
When you say things like this it only admits your stupidity and ignorance. The game isn’t just “putting you with your own people” the game is intentionally manipulating your ping, weapon damage and other patents so you can do bad. EOMM is not ok but if it was just SBMM it would be fine.
@@SlLENCE Why not look at it as a challenge instead? Or a puzzle to be worked out in a way, if the enemy is moving more aggressively than I am, i try to counter by either moving more slowly or patrolling an area for a time to get the upper hand.
There's still fun to be had, even against a room full of sweaty nerds ;)
@@jstrangelook that's what ranked mode is for. What you just said can literally be seen as an argument against sbmm. Bad players just need to treat it as a puzzle and try to gain an upper hand. They can still have fun while playing against sweats.......right?
being a 3kd player sbmm is brutal
Honestly I think I’m gonna put this game aside. I’m over it.
Why I stopped playing those games. I did try the beta. It was fun but eventually got tired of the sweat fest every game.
It's ok, if their data shows it's better for player retention on average then so be it. I'm not getting retention from that though, so I'm going to continue skipping CoD.
I wish they would just do what xDefiant did, have like an sbmm welcome playlist for up to say level 30. Once you’re 30 you’ve played the game a fair amount, gotten used to things. And your out into the world of none sbmm lol
KRNG Clan have been reverse boosting for over 10 years and they have been 2 boxing since MW2019 when the real SBMM as we know today kicked in. Yet here they are making videos like this. Krng Hero is uploading videos of him getting double nukes against lobbies filled with people who have disabilities! He literally deletes about 30 comments a video of people calling him out on his RB. It's so obvious and he's not the only one doing it. Faze Jev is the only COD creator worth watching.
I believe this franchise will be forced to stop this eventually. It’s very manipulative and borderline unethical. Basically the same psychology tactics they use against gambling addicts lol.
Idk what you're talking about I'm frying the majority of the time I have 20 hrs in the beta and I go double positive multiple times in a row sniping alone and with the reg guns I can get up to 3 e/d or k/d and I win a Good bit too. It's really not that bad. If sbmm was how it was the like 5 years I wouldn't be getting more than a 1.1 k/d and I'd be getting screwed every other game. I get sweaty lobbies here and there it's really not bad. I dead ass am like a 1 k/d I'm every other cod.
Without SBMM you would get doubled KD
Every match is on the line! You have to fuckin sweat and play like your in a fuckin tournament or something just to keep up! It's not about getting good, I been playing this shit for 20 years and this shit is not casual anymore... I remember clan wars and that's what it reminds me of lol
is it just me, or does black ops 6 feel like BO4 with more movement and harder lobbies
I don't think it matters almost everyone 2 boxes any way Now. I saw a lot of ppl dropping double nukes during beta, lol I can only imagine when the game actually comes out
I for one will be buying two copy's this year 😂
Bro I just stopped playing 😂 that shit is stressful af
I feel like the early access first week the SBMM was insane. I was lucky to go positive. I was get slammed. After the open access on the second week I started getting a lot more games with 2+ kd high kill games. I definitely feel like the SBMM was a lot stronger than MW3