Some clarification for the video: (Cold War) It's not a real reboot, but I looped it in as 2019 was the start of a new wave for multiplayer which is where I considered CW's multiplayer to be a reboot, even when it's not storyline wise whatsoever. (MW2019) I know the game was getting a lot of flak before and at launch, it was only after everything settled down that I thought the game was being more well-received. After the release of more COD games did I think they were starting to just follow in the footsteps of MW2019, becoming very similar in feel. (WAW connection) Yes World at War ties into the Black Ops storyline and is made by the same developers, Treyarch. However, the Black Ops series is still separate and generally considered separate when looking at the multiplayers. I am aware of the story ties, this video was specifically targeted at multiplayer and no story connections. The original COD games could be tied in with Modern Warfare as well because of the connection with the Price family. (MW3) Also my wording got messed up talking about nukes and MOABs. The MOAB does not end the game, but does wipe the entire enemy team like the nuke, forgot to correct it in the editing process. Let me know your thoughts on everything about the video and whether you agree
Trick shotting was debunked all where cheated. And mwf2 was way better. They actually made call of duty. Activison fired call of duty after mwf2. Black ops was Activison.
Man the classic MW and BO games had so much more atmosphere than what we get these days. Everything feels so cleaned up now instead of battlefields. It's all so sterile.
There was something in the air when they made MW19. the game is just so smooth despite being slower paced. the way the guns feel, how you move and run. Lightning in a bottle.
too bad the maps, perk balance, weapon balance, spawns, and spec ops were all terrible. Biggest waste of potential because Infinity ward can’t take constructive feedback.
For the first month of the game free for all matches were ending at 14-16 kills with the 725 shotgun campers and the claymores. The balance was absolutely atrocious the first couple months.
Call of duty games used to have a distinct look and feel to them, not so much the case anymore since 2019 onward, only Cold War kinda felt not like modern warfare 2019. Infinity ward games had weapons that were sleek and slim, black ops bulky and rough.
Eh, both devs have gone up and down with weapon models looking bulky and slim tbh. Look at the AK47 for example, the Cod4 and Bo1 versions are slim and clean, the MW2 and MW3 versions and bulky and ugly. Then the ACR from MW2 to MW3 went from bulky to slim. It's hit and miss really. Also yeah the old games had a distinct feel and charm to them we don't get anymore cause every Cod now is on the same base engine, the only thing getting changed is mechanics which they hardly even do that aside from Bo6 with omnimovement, otherwise every Cod since 2019 except Cold War has been on the same exact engine, copy paste copy paste. That's why I kinda like Cold War, it's the only Cod since Bo4 to actually feel different and use a different engine. Something I wish Cod would keep doing and miss about years prior.
@@Nitroh- I would argue the problem isn't just the engine. But it's also the UI. Back then, multiplayer, singleplayer and side modes used to have very distinct UI. Now everything look so clean and standardize. And yeah Cold War rocks. The UI is very minimal to the point that it looks distinguish enough from other COD entries. UI is the only the easiest problem. Art direction, story direction and everything else must iterate as well. I feel like every COD nowadays only change the system but its look always stays consistently bland.
One of my favourite weapons in Black Ops, was the Enfield. Generally bad iron sights, heavy recoil and low mobility; but Jesus fucking Christ in the right circumstances I could dominate with that thing, and I know that saying that makes me sound like a total twat, but... Shut up. Nowadays it's all just a case whatever the game feels like you're allowed to use. I swear, it doesn't matter what I use. Whether it's my own setup, someone else's or however I play; the games feel like they purposefully stop you from getting the same performance as everyone else regardless of the class. Yet Xx_PussySniffer_xX (TTV) can come along, pick up whatever you've been using and suddenly it's a one-shot, cross-map meta weapon.
Cold War definitely felt more like Classic COD compared to all other MW2019 and on games, but yea they all feel much more similar now. Black Ops and MW original trilogy both felt and played different enough that it wasnt too fatiguing to get each game.
Cod 4, World at War, MW2 and Black Ops were PEAK. But I guess peak for anyone is just the time they were the age where they could just hop on with their buddies after school and game
Too bad trickshotting died because too many people felt pressured to make the most insane trickshots so they just started cheating, making everyone just regard any trickshot as cheating.
yea thts not the reason trickshotting died they did away with mechanics of trickshotting and made their games less and less casual . cod use to be arcadey
@@wrongdoings2934 no it is the reason, trickshooting died way before they nerfed snipers, people were using soft aim constantly and there was no real way to prove anybody was legit, some of the most iconic shots we all watched hundreds of times as kids were all exposed, faze even had kids in their tryout lobbies using it and they didn’t know for years, optic had to ban some big name members because of it too It was huge back in the day
@@Apolly0na they don’t make cod anymore with the same mechanics that allowed for trickshotting like insta swapping etc . they don’t make cod a casual experience anymore .
@@wrongdoings2934 ok and how many 360 nacs were those “casual gamers” hitting, none that’s why they complained and that why they removed it, you could easily argue removing those mechanics in fact made the game more casual because not everyone could hit those shots 🤷♂️
@@Apolly0 bo2 was probably peak for trickshotitng after bo2 u had garbage ghost and sweaty advance warfare two games people jus stayed on bo2 bc they were so bad and didn’t do what bo2 did so well
I miss the healthy competition during Cod 4, waw, mw2, bo1, mw3, and bo2 days. The multiplayers had their own identity and fans, but both developers were considered gods and were respected. It’s so different nowadays
Back in these days IW set the trend. COD4 dropped and treyarch followed its lead for WAW. MW2 dropped and BO1 followed it's lead but also corrected many of the major balancing issues MW2 had, although it did introduce some of its own. This only really changed once the original IW crew fell apart and their design philosophy changed, and then 3arc took the lead. Despite this pattern the games still had their own unique feel to them. All the modern cods feel the exact same
Bro 😂 most people only talk about modern warfare & black ops but most of us who played call of duty since cod 1 & 2 people don’t understand how great call of duty 3 & world at war was at the time and zombies in world at war was mind blowing. By the time cod 4 mw came out and mw2 and black ops it only got better till after bo2 everything became a shell of its time I do like ghost and love bo3 & Infinite warfare, bo4 was & is still good, but the latter part of games compared to cod3 and world at war which era would you right have?
The actual guns in BO1 were statistically speaking worse balanced than MW2... There is a very clear hierachy in BO1 while the meta MW2 guns are the best jack of all traits while several others were better specialized and gave it a more Rock-Paper-Scissors sandbox. Perks... Well... yeah, they were both not particularly great... but MW2 was kinda on meth...
Your wrong, even when the old games were new everyone said the games all played the same, it's always been this way, people have always said the games all play the same, it's been a complaint for decades now.
@@SoulyG LMGs were kinda insane. Having no damage drop off meant you can get a 750rpm 2 shot kill with the L86 at any range... Which is just madness...
The clips you showed of BLOPS CW were so awesome. When that game released it was the loneliest time of my life and also I had a long break from work around Christmas because I got my wisdom teeth removed. Very nostalgic seeing those clips and I had a great time playing it. Wow, that touched a part of my soul lol.
Last CoD i played was BO2, but I always had a bias for InfinityWard's iterations. The gunplay felt smoother and the net code was usually better (in my experience). But as you pointed out, the maps were more unique - it made every round of dom/search a little different.
I think we see it as a competition of the two bc whenever there is two thing that are good at the same thing then we start to get picky on which one is the "real" best one. It was never a competition it was more of a library of of two different series in one company. It's like switching from your pokemon scarlet game to your violet game. They are both fun and have similarities but sometimes you just feeling one game instead of the other some days.
Very well said. Your reasons were the exact same as I have. Its a shame to see the Modern Warfare name become a joke in my opinion. Granted I am a Black Ops fan I still love the MW series.
Something worth mentioning. fast TTK and more chaotic maps dosen't make a game "faster paced" typically faster paced refers to how fast you move around the map and how balanced and engaging gunfights are. fast paced dosen't mean being one framed fast paced means being able to run behind cover and turning on someone. I always see people call MW19 fast paced despite having some of the slowest base movement speed, worst overall map design that ENCOURAGES camping, and incredibly fast TTK, this does NOT increase the pace of the game it decreases it you're encouraged to slow down, not run into a building because you can die quicker. I'd argue black ops 4 and cold war and 3 are the fastest paced COD's to date because you can easily traverse the map if you're at all competent and understand how to manage heals, how well you know the map layout and those kinds of factors. fast ttk =/= fast paced.
nah man, if you are not a noob, mw2019 is ultra fast paced, there's no denying that, just see any clip of some good player and it's super fast paced, you not being able to go that fast because of your skill doesn't make the game less fast paced, noobs that camp are just easy kills to everyone else that is good
MW2019 was the slowest paced CoD along with Ghosts, it was common to go to score limit in TDM and FFA, nobody will gaslight me into thinking that game was anything but deeply flawed
MW3 search and destroy was to much fun. So many fun underrated maps. Bootleg, Resistance, Mission, Lockdown, seatown, village, ect. Those arent even the most popular maps but still great
Logically Black Ops games are better games. But the Modern Warfare games are more fun. Black Ops games feel like they are made for 5v5 or 4v4 competitive. But for most 6v6-12v12 game modes that are chaotic, Modern Warfare just embraces the chaos of more players on the map better.
You hit the mark with this video you are 100% right that the modern warfare games felt fun due to the community which was a product of its time, nothing will sadly bring back the gaming community from the 2000s and 2010s but it was fun to experience
First 3-4 months of MW19 was ROUGH. Prob the worst cod experiences I’ve ever had until MW2022 dropped. After the growing pains, MW19 is easily the best modern cod. Best one since BO2, started to fall off after with og MW3
For me MW19 was and still is such a "what if" and "what could've been" for me. I really really liked the feel of the gunplay and movement. Too bad for the insane TTK in non hardcore combined with many many camp spots on multiple camper oriented maps. Updates brought non camper map playlists which was awesome, but now with no map voting and no playlists you are forced to play some of the worst maps in COD history which has ultimately led to the death of the game for the most part. It's still early, it still has it's problems that need to be worked on too but I'm playing BO6 on game pass and so far I think it's pretty good. It definitely suits a more run around style thanks to the movement and I love that. MW19 gunplay on maps that were hard to camp on would've been prime to me, but so far unless they ruin it BO6 feels nice.
Seeing modern vs old CoD is so heartbreaking even as a relatively new player, I picked up my first FPS in 2017 and the first CoD (BO3) mid 2018, yet I can feel the nostalgia even though I haven't played any game pre-BO3 (except a few dozens hours on BO2)
Older cods has so much more spirit. Like achieving a killstreaks is accompanied by a sound that defines the character of the streak and the guitar rifts when levelling up. Something modern cods lack. Mw2019 the last great cod
The OG MW3 is my favorite COD. My least favorite are Infinite & Advanced Warfare (well their multiplayer). World At War was solid, how they introduced zombies was crazy.
I disagree completely on the “rough time period” or worst era for cod. I do not think it was the jet pack era, and thus supply drops. I got every item in Bo3 for free, as if you completed the events you would get weapon bribes for free. Same with mwr, and their supply drop system was a vast improvement letting players use salvage to buy stuff outright. Didn’t spend a dime on supply drops on either. In today’s era, games are riddled with Sbmm, and most of us on here feel that’s a bad thing. That aside, all the items in the shop are expensive, with no other way to unlock them. There’s nothing to grind for anymore other than the mastery camo. It depletes the game of stuff to do, and it really sucks
good vid, agree with a lot said here. i really miss the identity and immersion of those early games. cod4/bo1 prob my favorite from that era. mw2019 was definitely of breath of fresh air in 2019...things were not looking good for cod mp back then but i personally loved wwii and bo4. but it's the catering to wz and stupid decisions by iw (which impacted the following games too) that drove me away from playing as much as i once did. mwiii definitely fixed a lot that i didn't like and bo6 i'm actually kinda excited for. they maybe clunky and frustrating at times but old is still gold and i occasionally go back to them.
1:56 no it wasnt a product of its time and no it has not become tamed. I am tired of whiny revisionist saying this. The only reason the lobbies feel dead and not echoing with life is because of the reporting system that took flight in mw2 2022 and the ai reporting system in MW3 2023 and BLK ops 6. Otherwise people would still being kicking and saying whatever comes to mind without fear.
Nice and informative video, I agree with most of it. I think that tech has come so far that everything is incredibly smooth now, which makes it less enjoyable to play. The loopholes in the games and the overall feeling of playing is just completely different now
I love you. Show me these old clips from Black ops videos it gives me a extalgia brings me back when I was a little kid thank you man. You're a true legend❤❤❤😊
Black ops has always been leagues ahead of modern warfare and Treyarch has always been the best COD dev. There’s a reason almost everyone is begging for black ops 2 remaster.
I haven’t bought a cod since Cold War, and I’m glad I haven’t. The modern games don’t really look or “feel” like they did in the past. Most of the problem is due to warzone, but besides that, the games overall seem bland. Campaigns have been either solid or terrible, multiplayer is just for cosmetics and warzone nowadays, and the new zombies is uninteresting (The dark aether story is just really boring without the old crew, like I don’t care about these randos and Weaver lol)
11:58 to me, as someone who basically only ever played warzone, warzone is the reason tactical sprint was added to clear open areas faster in exchange for your aim down sights speed being slower if I understood it correctly. Now, I don’t know if tac-sprint actually decreases your aim down sights speed, but it was definitely implemented because of warzone.
I feel like black ops cold war was so underrated back when it came out “oh, it’s nothing like mw2019” yeah, it wasn’t supposed to be, and that made it great
Dude, YES! it was its own thing, and they took it away from us... I'm done supporting COD UA-camr's because they wont speak out and tell people NOT to buy the game. They're all shills to me at this point because none of them have the balls to side against the developers. No matter what comes out, they're going to play it all year and make content on it and COD just doesn't deserve that kind of loyalty right now. Simple as that.
i remember when it first came out how ppl would just make fun of how “unrealistic “ and “cartoonish” cold war is compared to mw. too bad it’s gotten a lot of hate despite being made during the pandemic
I never played it, but I distinctly remember all the reviewers blasting it for the constant crashing at launch. I imagine a lot of people left and didn’t give it another chance afterward.
I know this video was mostly talking about multiplayer but I think it would’ve been nice to mention the side modes that MW/BO offered and how those changed with the franchise. For a lot of players(like me), zombies is a big reason I still play COD and MW has never really offered an equivalent game mode that was as fun. There’s extinction and survival but those game modes didn’t make much of an impact
I still think an amazing idea for the next CoD multiplayer would be to have a "Pick 10" system that incorporates Gunsmith. You get a primary and a secondary and total of 10 slots. Weapon attachments, perks, lethals, and tactical all cost slots. Want a perked out load out but at the cost of no lethals and tactical and weapon attachments? Sure go ahead.
OG MW3 and Black Ops 2 had the best multiplayer. I always Remebered when I was kid rotating those two games. MW3 for the insane loadouts and black ops 2 for its customization and custom emblems. What a time to be alive to play COD at its peak back then.
black ops actually started back in 2008 with WaW. Black ops is a sequal because of the campaign tie in, and also the continuation of the zombies story, with also the game taking place in the 60s and 70s after the events of WaW in the 1940s
The other problem with Blops 4 was that they also tried to make it a hero shooter, so there were specialist abilities that were pretty annoying. I enjoyed that they increased the health pool in that and MW3 (23) though. As time as gone on, my reaction speed isn’t what it used to be, so I tend to gravitate to games like Halo where the gunplay is less reliant on twitch response.
I don't think they've done Gunsmith as good as MW19. Black Ops' versions fall short and there isn't much unique about every gun. The way gunsmith works in Warzone 2.0 and the reboot sequels feel like such a mess, there's unique stuff for each gun but why would I bother when I can level up a different gun and get an attachment that's the overall best?
The connection is there for sure, but it was the start of a new series and is too different to include here. Just like how the new era of Modern Warfare and Black Ops is crossing over in storylines, people don't connect the two as one singular series.
people talking as if nostalgia is something unique to one generation/era of anything. People a decade from now will be nostalgic as fuck crying about how good fortnite was, or even our "never" cods for that matter. :)
There was an era where I would actually switch between mw2, waw, and Bo1 depending on my mood. All the games were populated no matter what you felt like playing. Now days it feels like you have to play the most recent.
Yeah I missed the olden days with modern warfare 2 and Black ops I could literally sit there all day playing those two games had some of the best experiences from those two games
The black ops series always felt better to me. Can also imagine it depends if you started on cod 4, mw2 or black ops. If you started on cod 4 or mw2 then they will probably be the better series. I didn’t really like the weapon selection in the Mw series or the timeline it was set but appreciated the game for what it was. Black ops felt like it became apart of our identity. Again maybe because trickshotting stayed on bo2 until bo3 came out, spent 3 years on one cod so all the snipers and trickthotters just have an affinity towards bo2 as we spent a lot of our developing years on that game. Like 12-15 years old is a long time to be playing one game
MW2019 brought me back to the series. It was an important game, but the series is right back where it was before MW2019. It’s become stagnant again, let’s see what happens.
Bo1 largely killed the dropshot and the quickscope. In school I had friends on both sides, some who were excited hearing Bo1 would have it removed (or so we thought) and friends who were avid MW2 quickscopers, who did end up playing Bo1 and subsequent cods but never stopped playing MW2. One of those guys I still talk to, and he played MW2 on his 360 until they shut it down. In MW2, your screen wouldn't scope in a single centimeter until the scope got to your eyeball, then it would immediately be at 100% zoom. In Bo1, WHILE your character was pulling the weapon to his face, it would simultaneously be scoping in slightly more and more until it hits the eye, where it becomes full zoom. That, and while the weapon is being pulled to your face, your camera would wobble slightly along the path of the normal scope sway to make aiming harder and different every time you tried zooming. MW2 did not have this, if it made any sense. But it's the steps Treyarch took to mitigate what was at the time one of the most contentious parts of the game. So much so that if I remember right, they brought it up at e3 or something and got cheers from the crowd, similarly to when they announced the removal of last stand.
I disagree about MW2 2022 encouraging one play style, the unlock system was deliberately designed so that you had to go out of your comfort zone and try new weapons that you never did before. It was great in that respect.
UA-cam had a big part to play imo. Back in the day, you could cross map noob tube someone twice then hit them with a pred missile and they're still in the game, you do that now and they've left after the first noob tube. Watching pros and sweats on youtube drop nukes or flawless/deathless gameplay has got people believing they should be doing the same, and 1 death ruins that for them. There's also all the "guides" or "tips and tricks" on how to be the best player, using the best class. There's always going to be someone researching tier lists and checking data so they can abuse the most overpowered gun or character in order to get an advantage to win/dominate, so many other people feel like they should do the same to "make it fair". If MW2 was remastered as it was, every game would have at least 1 person in it running noob tubes and OMA
😂 won't happen. Activision isn't going to release games that we'll play for 4 or 5 years. They only release trash that you'll be done with after it's yearly cycle.
i cant believe how hard the views on this channel fell off. like literally this channel is so great it needs to be more known nvm i just realized this video has so few views because it's new
The points that you had for modern warfare were valid. However, I’ve always liked BO better than MW then and now. Growing up I always thought the MW series was the same even now. MW2 also has 0 replay ability even compared to MW3. That’s just how I always felt and some people may but MW over the BO series and it’s to each their own.
07:10 tbh what i loved about MW2 and even more about MW3 is that everything was broken, you could get a nuke in MW2 just by getting the predator which was 5 kills and not 10 and a half as in BO6, then harriers and AC-130. I didn't like at all that BO2 had the PDW and AN-94 broken at the start but they nerfed it, I loved that things were broken, that the time to kill was 3 bullets and not 5-6 like right now
While yes it isn't a reboot or considered that, I loop it in there as 2019 was the start of a new era for the multiplayer side of COD. If we were talking storylines with campaign/zombies then I wouldn't have considered it a reboot.
Black ops 2 is still my favorite cod. Mw2019 i still love (its what got me back into cod / gaming a tiny bit and i built my pc to play mw2019 campaign on mac settings lol). Bo3 is the cod that made me quit gaming for a few years, i played it so much but that game made me the most rage induced ive ever been while gaming. It was addicting but frustrating and it incentiviced very sweaty gameplay. I hated the departure from BO2s casual fun feeling. I didnt really touch any videogames after bo3 until early 2020 during my first / second year of college. Recently i bought cold war on sale and ive been enjoying it a lot for the most part (other than there not being a LOT of players currently since it isnt the main COD). Im excited by what ive seen coming for black ops 6 and it may be the first COD game i get near release in more than a decade.
Also my favourite 2 CoDs ever. And pretty much the only Treyarch game I truly loved. I cannot wait for them to be remade. I just hope they’re done like for like, no changes. I want One Man Army the same, I want BO1’s camera spike the same. Everything has to stay the same, I don’t give a fuck if all the new shitty modern players hate it 😂
BO1 was amazing for its zombies, but I always preferred the MW2 multiplayer. As BO went towards futuristic settings and weapons, the historic feeling was lost. That ruined BO for me.
Some clarification for the video:
(Cold War) It's not a real reboot, but I looped it in as 2019 was the start of a new wave for multiplayer which is where I considered CW's multiplayer to be a reboot, even when it's not storyline wise whatsoever.
(MW2019) I know the game was getting a lot of flak before and at launch, it was only after everything settled down that I thought the game was being more well-received. After the release of more COD games did I think they were starting to just follow in the footsteps of MW2019, becoming very similar in feel.
(WAW connection) Yes World at War ties into the Black Ops storyline and is made by the same developers, Treyarch. However, the Black Ops series is still separate and generally considered separate when looking at the multiplayers. I am aware of the story ties, this video was specifically targeted at multiplayer and no story connections. The original COD games could be tied in with Modern Warfare as well because of the connection with the Price family.
(MW3) Also my wording got messed up talking about nukes and MOABs. The MOAB does not end the game, but does wipe the entire enemy team like the nuke, forgot to correct it in the editing process.
Let me know your thoughts on everything about the video and whether you agree
If WAW isn’t considered Black Ops in your eyes, then Cold War might as well be considered a reboot
My main issue is you didn't mention the two biggest flaws of MW 2019: the SBMM and the size of the maps.
Trick shotting was debunked all where cheated. And mwf2 was way better. They actually made call of duty. Activison fired call of duty after mwf2. Black ops was Activison.
Doesn't matter, WAW and Black Ops is tied, you said false facts by not mentioning it.
WAW was one of the best of the series. To not acknowledge is Crazy af lol
Man the classic MW and BO games had so much more atmosphere than what we get these days. Everything feels so cleaned up now instead of battlefields. It's all so sterile.
Its sad too because of today’s tech. Like imagine games like WaW, BO1, and 2 in today’s graphics. It’d be fucking surreal.
Nobody forces you to buy their new crap
You can thank sbmm/eomm manipulation for that
@@jmichael91only if it doesn't have thick sbmm/eomm manipulation
@@adnsalazar2 im talking about the games being the exact same way they are, just with the exception of modern graphics
There was something in the air when they made MW19. the game is just so smooth despite being slower paced. the way the guns feel, how you move and run. Lightning in a bottle.
too bad the maps, perk balance, weapon balance, spawns, and spec ops were all terrible.
Biggest waste of potential because Infinity ward can’t take constructive feedback.
For the first month of the game free for all matches were ending at 14-16 kills with the 725 shotgun campers and the claymores. The balance was absolutely atrocious the first couple months.
Imo it's the worst Call of duty. It was catered towards campy playstyles. Also the first cod to introduce EOMM.
@@benpokeevery cod was campy. Ever played mw2?
No that game was especially campy
Call of duty games used to have a distinct look and feel to them, not so much the case anymore since 2019 onward, only Cold War kinda felt not like modern warfare 2019.
Infinity ward games had weapons that were sleek and slim, black ops bulky and rough.
Eh, both devs have gone up and down with weapon models looking bulky and slim tbh. Look at the AK47 for example, the Cod4 and Bo1 versions are slim and clean, the MW2 and MW3 versions and bulky and ugly. Then the ACR from MW2 to MW3 went from bulky to slim. It's hit and miss really.
Also yeah the old games had a distinct feel and charm to them we don't get anymore cause every Cod now is on the same base engine, the only thing getting changed is mechanics which they hardly even do that aside from Bo6 with omnimovement, otherwise every Cod since 2019 except Cold War has been on the same exact engine, copy paste copy paste. That's why I kinda like Cold War, it's the only Cod since Bo4 to actually feel different and use a different engine. Something I wish Cod would keep doing and miss about years prior.
@@Nitroh- I would argue the problem isn't just the engine. But it's also the UI. Back then, multiplayer, singleplayer and side modes used to have very distinct UI. Now everything look so clean and standardize. And yeah Cold War rocks. The UI is very minimal to the point that it looks distinguish enough from other COD entries. UI is the only the easiest problem. Art direction, story direction and everything else must iterate as well. I feel like every COD nowadays only change the system but its look always stays consistently bland.
One of my favourite weapons in Black Ops, was the Enfield.
Generally bad iron sights, heavy recoil and low mobility; but Jesus fucking Christ in the right circumstances I could dominate with that thing, and I know that saying that makes me sound like a total twat, but... Shut up.
Nowadays it's all just a case whatever the game feels like you're allowed to use. I swear, it doesn't matter what I use. Whether it's my own setup, someone else's or however I play; the games feel like they purposefully stop you from getting the same performance as everyone else regardless of the class.
Yet Xx_PussySniffer_xX (TTV) can come along, pick up whatever you've been using and suddenly it's a one-shot, cross-map meta weapon.
BO6 didn’t feel like a mwii dlc in my opinion
Cold War definitely felt more like Classic COD compared to all other MW2019 and on games, but yea they all feel much more similar now.
Black Ops and MW original trilogy both felt and played different enough that it wasnt too fatiguing to get each game.
Cod 4, World at War, MW2 and Black Ops were PEAK. But I guess peak for anyone is just the time they were the age where they could just hop on with their buddies after school and game
Wish I was older to experience them in their prime. Grew up with jet pack era instead (aw,(bo3,iw)
Too bad trickshotting died because too many people felt pressured to make the most insane trickshots so they just started cheating, making everyone just regard any trickshot as cheating.
yea thts not the reason trickshotting died they did away with mechanics of trickshotting and made their games less and less casual . cod use to be arcadey
@@wrongdoings2934 no it is the reason, trickshooting died way before they nerfed snipers, people were using soft aim constantly and there was no real way to prove anybody was legit, some of the most iconic shots we all watched hundreds of times as kids were all exposed, faze even had kids in their tryout lobbies using it and they didn’t know for years, optic had to ban some big name members because of it too
It was huge back in the day
@@Apolly0na they don’t make cod anymore with the same mechanics that allowed for trickshotting like insta swapping etc . they don’t make cod a casual experience anymore .
@@wrongdoings2934 ok and how many 360 nacs were those “casual gamers” hitting, none that’s why they complained and that why they removed it, you could easily argue removing those mechanics in fact made the game more casual because not everyone could hit those shots 🤷♂️
@@Apolly0 bo2 was probably peak for trickshotitng after bo2 u had garbage ghost and sweaty advance warfare two games people jus stayed on bo2 bc they were so bad and didn’t do what bo2 did so well
I miss the healthy competition during Cod 4, waw, mw2, bo1, mw3, and bo2 days. The multiplayers had their own identity and fans, but both developers were considered gods and were respected. It’s so different nowadays
Back in these days IW set the trend. COD4 dropped and treyarch followed its lead for WAW. MW2 dropped and BO1 followed it's lead but also corrected many of the major balancing issues MW2 had, although it did introduce some of its own. This only really changed once the original IW crew fell apart and their design philosophy changed, and then 3arc took the lead. Despite this pattern the games still had their own unique feel to them. All the modern cods feel the exact same
Bro 😂 most people only talk about modern warfare & black ops but most of us who played call of duty since cod 1 & 2 people don’t understand how great call of duty 3 & world at war was at the time and zombies in world at war was mind blowing. By the time cod 4 mw came out and mw2 and black ops it only got better till after bo2 everything became a shell of its time I do like ghost and love bo3 & Infinite warfare, bo4 was & is still good, but the latter part of games compared to cod3 and world at war which era would you right have?
The actual guns in BO1 were statistically speaking worse balanced than MW2... There is a very clear hierachy in BO1 while the meta MW2 guns are the best jack of all traits while several others were better specialized and gave it a more Rock-Paper-Scissors sandbox. Perks... Well... yeah, they were both not particularly great... but MW2 was kinda on meth...
@@scottjs5207 mw2 was no that bad without one man army n noob tubes, i mean ump45 was broken but u can use any gun and have fun, even lmgs
Your wrong, even when the old games were new everyone said the games all played the same, it's always been this way, people have always said the games all play the same, it's been a complaint for decades now.
@@SoulyG LMGs were kinda insane. Having no damage drop off meant you can get a 750rpm 2 shot kill with the L86 at any range... Which is just madness...
The clips you showed of BLOPS CW were so awesome. When that game released it was the loneliest time of my life and also I had a long break from work around Christmas because I got my wisdom teeth removed. Very nostalgic seeing those clips and I had a great time playing it. Wow, that touched a part of my soul lol.
Last CoD i played was BO2, but I always had a bias for InfinityWard's iterations. The gunplay felt smoother and the net code was usually better (in my experience). But as you pointed out, the maps were more unique - it made every round of dom/search a little different.
I think we see it as a competition of the two bc whenever there is two thing that are good at the same thing then we start to get picky on which one is the "real" best one. It was never a competition it was more of a library of of two different series in one company. It's like switching from your pokemon scarlet game to your violet game. They are both fun and have similarities but sometimes you just feeling one game instead of the other some days.
Absolutely agree
Very well said. Your reasons were the exact same as I have. Its a shame to see the Modern Warfare name become a joke in my opinion. Granted I am a Black Ops fan I still love the MW series.
Something worth mentioning. fast TTK and more chaotic maps dosen't make a game "faster paced" typically faster paced refers to how fast you move around the map and how balanced and engaging gunfights are. fast paced dosen't mean being one framed fast paced means being able to run behind cover and turning on someone. I always see people call MW19 fast paced despite having some of the slowest base movement speed, worst overall map design that ENCOURAGES camping, and incredibly fast TTK, this does NOT increase the pace of the game it decreases it you're encouraged to slow down, not run into a building because you can die quicker. I'd argue black ops 4 and cold war and 3 are the fastest paced COD's to date because you can easily traverse the map if you're at all competent and understand how to manage heals, how well you know the map layout and those kinds of factors. fast ttk =/= fast paced.
nah man, if you are not a noob, mw2019 is ultra fast paced, there's no denying that, just see any clip of some good player and it's super fast paced, you not being able to go that fast because of your skill doesn't make the game less fast paced, noobs that camp are just easy kills to everyone else that is good
MW2019 was the slowest paced CoD along with Ghosts, it was common to go to score limit in TDM and FFA, nobody will gaslight me into thinking that game was anything but deeply flawed
"MW19 has some of the slowest base movement speed"
Are you actually retarded?
Yeah sure go play cold war then watch the speds in MW
@@stealthiscool "MW 2019 slowest paced cod" LMAO have you seen people using stims and slide cancelling?
Old mw3 and black ops 2 where hands down the best time ever for me.. miss those days
Were*
@@Shadow42317 ah thanks, didn't even realize I did that 😂
Agreeed
You mean MW2 dlc?
MW3 search and destroy was to much fun. So many fun underrated maps. Bootleg, Resistance, Mission, Lockdown, seatown, village, ect. Those arent even the most popular maps but still great
Logically Black Ops games are better games. But the Modern Warfare games are more fun. Black Ops games feel like they are made for 5v5 or 4v4 competitive. But for most 6v6-12v12 game modes that are chaotic, Modern Warfare just embraces the chaos of more players on the map better.
You hit the mark with this video you are 100% right that the modern warfare games felt fun due to the community which was a product of its time, nothing will sadly bring back the gaming community from the 2000s and 2010s but it was fun to experience
First 3-4 months of MW19 was ROUGH. Prob the worst cod experiences I’ve ever had until MW2022 dropped. After the growing pains, MW19 is easily the best modern cod. Best one since BO2, started to fall off after with og MW3
True
@@EricReed-y1g i can’t believe your able to play modern cods . there such a soulless rigged experience it’s mind blowing ppl still buy the games
@@wrongdoings2934wish they would just make cod mobile THE call of duty game and make regularly updates and content
For me MW19 was and still is such a "what if" and "what could've been" for me. I really really liked the feel of the gunplay and movement. Too bad for the insane TTK in non hardcore combined with many many camp spots on multiple camper oriented maps. Updates brought non camper map playlists which was awesome, but now with no map voting and no playlists you are forced to play some of the worst maps in COD history which has ultimately led to the death of the game for the most part.
It's still early, it still has it's problems that need to be worked on too but I'm playing BO6 on game pass and so far I think it's pretty good. It definitely suits a more run around style thanks to the movement and I love that. MW19 gunplay on maps that were hard to camp on would've been prime to me, but so far unless they ruin it BO6 feels nice.
Wheezy always makes quality content! Great video man
@@ZenkaiGoose hey thank you my man! You’ve been killing it yourself 😎
World at War was the first Black Ops game.
I was also about to say the same
Music goes hard 18:14
BO2 as a whole went hard
I don’t mind combining the universes together but i hate that they combined the way the games play. I want to black ops not modern warfare.
Yeah man, Black ops gameplay was its own thing, and it was awesome. Wish more people would speak out against this.
I feel like maps should have more varied platforms cuz they’re all pretty much horizontal maps now with maybe one floor difference
Seeing modern vs old CoD is so heartbreaking even as a relatively new player, I picked up my first FPS in 2017 and the first CoD (BO3) mid 2018, yet I can feel the nostalgia even though I haven't played any game pre-BO3 (except a few dozens hours on BO2)
You need to go back and play the original MWs and BOs from 2007-2012. Until then you don’t have any nostalgia.
I see so many new players on that game
Bro Black Ops 3 was the first real one I started with and that game was 🔥
@@babbabiamesser it sucks u have to grow up on these fortnite cods
The introduction of sliding might be one of the big reasons the new games dont feel the same as the old ones
sliding is so lame i hate it
black ops 1 and black ops 2 were peak Cod
@Ratclan you're right I wish they had a mode where it was no sliding, I'm sure a lot of the maps on bo6 would play better
@@Hasmoon1 yeah it just makes the maps feel so cramped when you have double sprint and slide cancel, plus jumping and diving.
What a great video! I felt super immersed and loved the documentary style, incredible work
im still playing orignal COD 4 multiplayer ... and i love every bit of it
Which platform are you playing cod 4 on? The cod 4 remastered has a small number of players on multiplayer these days
@@E_Nygma cod 4 on ps3
@@E_Nygma game ranger is where i last played in 2018
Older cods has so much more spirit. Like achieving a killstreaks is accompanied by a sound that defines the character of the streak and the guitar rifts when levelling up. Something modern cods lack. Mw2019 the last great cod
there literally are guitar riffs when leveling up in bo6...
@ don’t have it
Black Ops is what all my hope for call of duty is in from now on.
OG Modern Warfare 3 remains my favorite CoD multiplayer. Damn, I wish it features bots.
The OG MW3 is my favorite COD. My least favorite are Infinite & Advanced Warfare (well their multiplayer). World At War was solid, how they introduced zombies was crazy.
WaW should have been here.
I disagree completely on the “rough time period” or worst era for cod. I do not think it was the jet pack era, and thus supply drops. I got every item in Bo3 for free, as if you completed the events you would get weapon bribes for free. Same with mwr, and their supply drop system was a vast improvement letting players use salvage to buy stuff outright. Didn’t spend a dime on supply drops on either. In today’s era, games are riddled with Sbmm, and most of us on here feel that’s a bad thing. That aside, all the items in the shop are expensive, with no other way to unlock them. There’s nothing to grind for anymore other than the mastery camo. It depletes the game of stuff to do, and it really sucks
good vid, agree with a lot said here. i really miss the identity and immersion of those early games. cod4/bo1 prob my favorite from that era. mw2019 was definitely of breath of fresh air in 2019...things were not looking good for cod mp back then but i personally loved wwii and bo4. but it's the catering to wz and stupid decisions by iw (which impacted the following games too) that drove me away from playing as much as i once did. mwiii definitely fixed a lot that i didn't like and bo6 i'm actually kinda excited for. they maybe clunky and frustrating at times but old is still gold and i occasionally go back to them.
This channel is a literal definition of quality over quantity. Keep up ,friend.
And it's not a bot comment lol.
1:56 no it wasnt a product of its time and no it has not become tamed. I am tired of whiny revisionist saying this. The only reason the lobbies feel dead and not echoing with life is because of the reporting system that took flight in mw2 2022 and the ai reporting system in MW3 2023 and BLK ops 6. Otherwise people would still being kicking and saying whatever comes to mind without fear.
As they should. Free speech ftw
@@chrishall2594 agreed o-o
Hell yeah
Nice and informative video, I agree with most of it. I think that tech has come so far that everything is incredibly smooth now, which makes it less enjoyable to play. The loopholes in the games and the overall feeling of playing is just completely different now
I love you. Show me these old clips from Black ops videos it gives me a extalgia brings me back when I was a little kid thank you man. You're a true legend❤❤❤😊
Black ops has always been leagues ahead of modern warfare and Treyarch has always been the best COD dev. There’s a reason almost everyone is begging for black ops 2 remaster.
as much i enjoyd black ops 2.... IMO i didn't like the futuristic feel of it
Great video, very well put together :)
I haven’t bought a cod since Cold War, and I’m glad I haven’t. The modern games don’t really look or “feel” like they did in the past. Most of the problem is due to warzone, but besides that, the games overall seem bland. Campaigns have been either solid or terrible, multiplayer is just for cosmetics and warzone nowadays, and the new zombies is uninteresting (The dark aether story is just really boring without the old crew, like I don’t care about these randos and Weaver lol)
I truly feel bad for anyone who didn’t get to witness these games in their prime. Call of duty and online gaming was just a different vibe back then.
Black ops has always been the better series for me. Just feels more fun.
why is this exactly the video i need right now
5:37 THAT WAS AMAZING
If BO3 didn’t have gambling mechanics it would have been perfect.
The movement was the best version of booster packs and the gun play was so butter
11:58 to me, as someone who basically only ever played warzone, warzone is the reason tactical sprint was added to clear open areas faster in exchange for your aim down sights speed being slower if I understood it correctly. Now, I don’t know if tac-sprint actually decreases your aim down sights speed, but it was definitely implemented because of warzone.
I feel like black ops cold war was so underrated back when it came out “oh, it’s nothing like mw2019” yeah, it wasn’t supposed to be, and that made it great
Dude, YES! it was its own thing, and they took it away from us... I'm done supporting COD UA-camr's because they wont speak out and tell people NOT to buy the game. They're all shills to me at this point because none of them have the balls to side against the developers. No matter what comes out, they're going to play it all year and make content on it and COD just doesn't deserve that kind of loyalty right now. Simple as that.
i remember when it first came out how ppl would just make fun of how “unrealistic “ and “cartoonish” cold war is compared to mw. too bad it’s gotten a lot of hate despite being made during the pandemic
I never played it, but I distinctly remember all the reviewers blasting it for the constant crashing at launch. I imagine a lot of people left and didn’t give it another chance afterward.
The editing on this video is insane
0:20 Technically the second started with world at war
I know this video was mostly talking about multiplayer but I think it would’ve been nice to mention the side modes that MW/BO offered and how those changed with the franchise. For a lot of players(like me), zombies is a big reason I still play COD and MW has never really offered an equivalent game mode that was as fun. There’s extinction and survival but those game modes didn’t make much of an impact
I still think an amazing idea for the next CoD multiplayer would be to have a "Pick 10" system that incorporates Gunsmith. You get a primary and a secondary and total of 10 slots. Weapon attachments, perks, lethals, and tactical all cost slots. Want a perked out load out but at the cost of no lethals and tactical and weapon attachments? Sure go ahead.
OG MW3 and Black Ops 2 had the best multiplayer. I always Remebered when I was kid rotating those two games. MW3 for the insane loadouts and black ops 2 for its customization and custom emblems. What a time to be alive to play COD at its peak back then.
black ops actually started back in 2008 with WaW. Black ops is a sequal because of the campaign tie in, and also the continuation of the zombies story, with also the game taking place in the 60s and 70s after the events of WaW in the 1940s
I’ll never forget when I hit my first, AND only 360 quick scope on bo1
Love the video keep up the good work
The other problem with Blops 4 was that they also tried to make it a hero shooter, so there were specialist abilities that were pretty annoying. I enjoyed that they increased the health pool in that and MW3 (23) though. As time as gone on, my reaction speed isn’t what it used to be, so I tend to gravitate to games like Halo where the gunplay is less reliant on twitch response.
I don't think they've done Gunsmith as good as MW19. Black Ops' versions fall short and there isn't much unique about every gun. The way gunsmith works in Warzone 2.0 and the reboot sequels feel like such a mess, there's unique stuff for each gun but why would I bother when I can level up a different gun and get an attachment that's the overall best?
This is a great video
Correction: The Black Ops series started during 2008 with World at War
The connection is there for sure, but it was the start of a new series and is too different to include here. Just like how the new era of Modern Warfare and Black Ops is crossing over in storylines, people don't connect the two as one singular series.
@@theWheezyblack ops is the same story and universe as WAW
@@ZephyreWasHere yes zombies started here, but "black ops" isnt in the name.
Reznov/dimitri connect the 2 games, if zombies hadnt already
false. that’s the world at war series
i still remember mw2 when the first time i unlokced the scar-L, i was so happy, the most beautiful gun every created in game
people talking as if nostalgia is something unique to one generation/era of anything. People a decade from now will be nostalgic as fuck crying about how good fortnite was, or even our "never" cods for that matter. :)
I rate the credit thankyou bro❤
We are back in the day when I was a younger those jump spots used to be super popular I used to know all of them back in the day
There was an era where I would actually switch between mw2, waw, and Bo1 depending on my mood. All the games were populated no matter what you felt like playing. Now days it feels like you have to play the most recent.
I was there at modern warfare 1 and 2 days. Good times
Black Ops 1 had kill streaks.
Point streaks started with BO2
Yeah I missed the olden days with modern warfare 2 and Black ops I could literally sit there all day playing those two games had some of the best experiences from those two games
The black ops series always felt better to me. Can also imagine it depends if you started on cod 4, mw2 or black ops. If you started on cod 4 or mw2 then they will probably be the better series. I didn’t really like the weapon selection in the Mw series or the timeline it was set but appreciated the game for what it was. Black ops felt like it became apart of our identity. Again maybe because trickshotting stayed on bo2 until bo3 came out, spent 3 years on one cod so all the snipers and trickthotters just have an affinity towards bo2 as we spent a lot of our developing years on that game. Like 12-15 years old is a long time to be playing one game
MW2 was exploited by everyone and in turn made them think they were better at the game because they could abuse them. BO2 is king
MW2019 brought me back to the series. It was an important game, but the series is right back where it was before MW2019. It’s become stagnant again, let’s see what happens.
Even ends the video on the most badass theme in COD history
Great Video
To me Bo2 is peak MP.
The pure joy you hear in these classic CoD games 😢😞
This was a video I picked to watch while I eat my dinner, I hope this comment brings some stark motivation to continue your career.
This brings me great deals of motivation 🙌
I like treyarch movement but infinityward/Activision knew how to make a gun feel like a gun tbh
MW19 was my first COD game and I really enjoyed it
Bo1 largely killed the dropshot and the quickscope. In school I had friends on both sides, some who were excited hearing Bo1 would have it removed (or so we thought) and friends who were avid MW2 quickscopers, who did end up playing Bo1 and subsequent cods but never stopped playing MW2. One of those guys I still talk to, and he played MW2 on his 360 until they shut it down. In MW2, your screen wouldn't scope in a single centimeter until the scope got to your eyeball, then it would immediately be at 100% zoom. In Bo1, WHILE your character was pulling the weapon to his face, it would simultaneously be scoping in slightly more and more until it hits the eye, where it becomes full zoom. That, and while the weapon is being pulled to your face, your camera would wobble slightly along the path of the normal scope sway to make aiming harder and different every time you tried zooming. MW2 did not have this, if it made any sense. But it's the steps Treyarch took to mitigate what was at the time one of the most contentious parts of the game. So much so that if I remember right, they brought it up at e3 or something and got cheers from the crowd, similarly to when they announced the removal of last stand.
I disagree about MW2 2022 encouraging one play style, the unlock system was deliberately designed so that you had to go out of your comfort zone and try new weapons that you never did before. It was great in that respect.
Blops 3 was peak
After finishing the video, I now see youve at some point read my mind about everything. Subbed
bo3 peak vs bo2 peak can’t even compare
UA-cam had a big part to play imo. Back in the day, you could cross map noob tube someone twice then hit them with a pred missile and they're still in the game, you do that now and they've left after the first noob tube. Watching pros and sweats on youtube drop nukes or flawless/deathless gameplay has got people believing they should be doing the same, and 1 death ruins that for them.
There's also all the "guides" or "tips and tricks" on how to be the best player, using the best class. There's always going to be someone researching tier lists and checking data so they can abuse the most overpowered gun or character in order to get an advantage to win/dominate, so many other people feel like they should do the same to "make it fair". If MW2 was remastered as it was, every game would have at least 1 person in it running noob tubes and OMA
I'm so excited to get here on a video early I'll say what I think about it when im done
I’m 100% sure they’re about to start releasing remastered black ops after this release run
😂 won't happen. Activision isn't going to release games that we'll play for 4 or 5 years. They only release trash that you'll be done with after it's yearly cycle.
@@Davidc9356having a cry?
I'm 36 years young and my nick name since I was 9 has been wheazy...definitely got a sub from me twin keep up the great content 🫡
i cant believe how hard the views on this channel fell off. like literally this channel is so great it needs to be more known
nvm i just realized this video has so few views because it's new
The points that you had for modern warfare were valid. However, I’ve always liked BO better than MW then and now. Growing up I always thought the MW series was the same even now. MW2 also has 0 replay ability even compared to MW3. That’s just how I always felt and some people may but MW over the BO series and it’s to each their own.
"Black Ops vs Modern Warfare"
World at War: 😐
World at war is a black ops game
They’re making the new games for kids while still being rated M They’re very confused
MW3 and Black Ops 2 had the best quickscoping and trickshotting
Cold war was the end of an era. We'll probably never get another game like it.
07:10 tbh what i loved about MW2 and even more about MW3 is that everything was broken, you could get a nuke in MW2 just by getting the predator which was 5 kills and not 10 and a half as in BO6, then harriers and AC-130. I didn't like at all that BO2 had the PDW and AN-94 broken at the start but they nerfed it, I loved that things were broken, that the time to kill was 3 bullets and not 5-6 like right now
2019 was THE cod in my opinion.
Cold War wasn’t a reboot
While yes it isn't a reboot or considered that, I loop it in there as 2019 was the start of a new era for the multiplayer side of COD. If we were talking storylines with campaign/zombies then I wouldn't have considered it a reboot.
So is COD WW2, Vanguard, Cold War and now Gulf War are in the same story line?
Team Black Ops🟠⚫️
Back in the day modern warfare and black ops were different. Now it's the same with different name titles.
Black ops 2 is still my favorite cod. Mw2019 i still love (its what got me back into cod / gaming a tiny bit and i built my pc to play mw2019 campaign on mac settings lol). Bo3 is the cod that made me quit gaming for a few years, i played it so much but that game made me the most rage induced ive ever been while gaming. It was addicting but frustrating and it incentiviced very sweaty gameplay. I hated the departure from BO2s casual fun feeling. I didnt really touch any videogames after bo3 until early 2020 during my first / second year of college. Recently i bought cold war on sale and ive been enjoying it a lot for the most part (other than there not being a LOT of players currently since it isnt the main COD). Im excited by what ive seen coming for black ops 6 and it may be the first COD game i get near release in more than a decade.
Cold war is better than any of the new MW games, and will still be better than BO6
@@drunkhusband6257Cold War was shit and the mechanic was outdated if you compare it with 2019
@@hungryyy-qs9407 lol what cold war is the best cod we've had recently. Sorry not all of us like supersoldier running and tweaker movement
@@drunkhusband6257 but most are so keep playing your outdated game
@@hungryyy-qs9407 are you mad because the latest cods are garbage and you wasted money?
I have to say I would pick OG black ops over OG MW but both were amazing
My first COD ever was Black Ops 1. My first MW game was MW2 2009. Best two games to introduce me to COD.
Also my favourite 2 CoDs ever. And pretty much the only Treyarch game I truly loved. I cannot wait for them to be remade. I just hope they’re done like for like, no changes. I want One Man Army the same, I want BO1’s camera spike the same. Everything has to stay the same, I don’t give a fuck if all the new shitty modern players hate it 😂
@@Luke-ym7hd facts bro.
BO1 was amazing for its zombies, but I always preferred the MW2 multiplayer. As BO went towards futuristic settings and weapons, the historic feeling was lost. That ruined BO for me.