I think Gregg is absolutely someone that you need to keep close to you and take every bit of his advice. I know there's some comedic value in this, but he's 100% bang on, and he's not a yes man for a bit of dosh. Keep him in your list of trustworthy people.
As a flight instructor, the flight instructor's reaction is totally justified. Aviation demands diligence in study, discipline, humility, and respect for the craft. Take what your CFI tells you to heart. As a viewer, I'm fuckin' pumped!! I seriously can't wait to see your progress through flying and going through everything from straight and level, ground ref maneuvers, stalls, cross country flights, and hopefully even your instrument rating! I'm an airline pilot, always wanted to do aerobatics, and I am incredibly jealous of your Extra and couple aerobatic flights so far haha But for real, take it slow, don't get ahead of yourself, and be humble. Lots of people get killed by hubris via aviation.
Greg is awesome, such a down to earth and wholesome guy, really represents people in the RC community in the real world in my experience. My BMFA instructor for fixed wing when I did my A certificate with a 6ft 30cc Yak54 was the same. ☺
Kev, in aviation you absolutely cannot run before you can walk! Greg's reaction is completely understandable, some instructors would point blank refuse to teach you as the attitude would worry them. Please listen to the experts, no-one wants a Colin McRae scenario due to your over-enthusiasm. Take it steady and you'll get there.
yeah and who taught the wright brothers how to fly? did they have loads of hours fannying about in flight school did they? did they feck. I bet you work in health and safety or some nonsense. too many risk averse people in the UK now, were a laughing stock, it's not the attitude that got young men in the air after a couple of lessons with a spitfire during WW2 was it eh? Stop being soft for other people, be soft in your own world by all means, but just because you are scared, doesnt mean others are.
Well, it was a pleasure to meet you, we will remember you as the madman who jumped from an RC to an acrobatic plane and from there to the sky (with San Pedro)
Kev, I've only been subbed for about 2 years, and your channel is what drove me to get back into RC, and get some hobby grade cars. I've loved the monster truck series as well, and now you've gone and got an airplane. Please, please, please, listen to all the advice from your instructor and don't fall victim to temptation to start going crazy with this plane any time soon. I was an instrument flight controls specialist in the Air Force, and I know how complex and dangerous planes can be, especially the high horsepower, high performance models. I really don't want to come on YT and see one of your friends making a video about your final flight in your newest toy. I wish you all the best, and safe aviation.
I agree with the instructor, the extra is fast, but there are other more comfortable fast aircraft out the. It's less about the extra being mental, more its just wasted money on a loud rattlebox when there are "cruisers" out there.
I think Kev just wants to depart an airfield like a bat out of hell and come in doing barrel rolls and inverted loops...! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He has a Lambo and built his own Monster Truck after all - for him, it's go big, or go home...
It's an extremely bad idea, this is going to end in a crash. His attitude just won't be right for flying let alone something like that. Something like an SR22 or Bonanza etc will be so much better
As someone with over a thousand hours just on high-performance tail-draggers, I can safely say that an Extra is probably the last aircraft I would purchase for your planned mission. Even forgetting the significant aerobatic capability and instability of the Extra, the weather over the Irish Sea is poor at the best of times, with either solid IFR or at best a very limited visible horizon to assist you. Sea crossings on even the nicest days have a nasty habit of the sea blending into the sky and you feeling like you are flying in a goldfish bowl unaware of which is up or down! You require an aircraft with IFR capabilities, preferably FIKI and a stable instrument platform - an autopilot would also be of great benefit!
Kevin, this advice is so true. Charter a flight across the Irish Sea in a PC-12 on a bad weather day and watch the conditions yourself if you don't believe @markjarrett6893
I think he is making an entertainment video where he is putting-on like he is ignoring the safety. He doesn’t have a death wish so it’s a pretty safe bet he is going to go through all the training before he is up there doing stunts by himself. Just a hunch.
Like they say: "There Are Old Pilots, and There Are Bold Pilots, But There Are No Old, Bold Pilots" The sensible way would be to get his pilot license, then get a nice tricyle gear plane, rack up more hours and then think about the Extra
I am 100% behind you Kev as far as getting your pilots license Kev. But you really need to listen to everything your instructor tells you. Everything about aviation is about being 100% thorough. There are no short cuts and if something goes wrong the outcome can be pretty binary. I'd like to keep watching you for years yet, so do everything properly. As nice as your new plane is, it's fundamentally not the plane for a beginner, or even very good for doing distance. The plane you are learning on, and say something like the Cessna 172 are very stable planes and are much better for the first couple of years of flying. That kind of lack of control responsiveness and stability gives you time to figure out what is happening and get yourself out of bad situations. That aerobatic plane is the very opposite, and you need years of experience to fly it safely. Anyway, best of luck.
Plus it has no avionics, if you find yourself caught in the weather you're straight f-cked. Not really an appropriate plane for crossing water and flying long distance.
As someone who has flown both real airplanes and RC airplanes, its about 100x easier to take off and fly an actual airplane even for long distances. Now remembering what all the switches and knobs do and landing safe and smooth is the hard part. Im talking about single propeller planes tho, I know nothing about jets or multi props. But I took off and flew a cessna before I graduated high school. My first flight was over an hour. Ive never had a rc plane fly more than 3 mins without crashing. A stunt plane is a wild first choice but I can't knock it. Still light enough to glide pretty well incase of engine failure. Just focus more on learning than actually filming or cameras until you get comfortable. A tumble wumble hits alot different from hundreds and thousands of feet in the air.
Also just to be clear, as far as transportion a aerobatic plane is a terrible choice. Alot of fuel, more maintenance, no room for much luggage, all that plus what you mentioned. It's absolutely not practical and saving an hour on the commute isn't going to make up for it. But if half your reason is for pure fun and adrenaline then you made the right choice and it'll be easy to deal with the rest. Who cares, it's your money and life and it'll be fun to watch you join the aviation hobby. Plus it's not like you're in it... Oh wait 😂
If you've flown, you should know about lift....a low wing sport plane has minimal lift and relies on HP to keep it up. A high wing like a cessna doesn't require a lot of power to keep it flying. For eg: the stall speed of a cessna 172 is 40 knots, an EA-300 is 55 knots. (almost 50% faster). with a high wing aircraft, it basically WANTS to fly level since the weight is below the wing. A low wing aircraft all the weight is above the wing which makes it want to tip over, hence why you can do aerobatics with them.
18:50 Oh deer, what a takeoff... I think you would have got a lot more out of it had you bought a cruising airplane, like a Diamond or a Cessna. Your instructor said that the Extra is like an F1 car. It's not. It's worse. You can always stop and get out of an F1 car. You don't have that option with an Extra. Not to mention that it's a terrible cruiser. Uses up a ton of gas, doesn't carry very much, it's very uncomfortable, and you'll probably freeze in it. You need a Diamond Katana, mate.
I'm not an aviation expert by a long shot. BUT yes, there's a TON of fast comfortable and cool aircraft around. To me, this is like touring on a motocross bike. The SR22T or SR22 would have been a better choice me thinks.
@@muskokamike127 Tourning on a motorcross bike, been there done that ;) Did a 2 day 900km trip on my Yamaha WR450F road legal enduro dirtbike. It was not pleasant cruising for hours at 90km/h for 2 days.
@@a64738 When I was a teen I had a honda 125, used to go everywhere on that and while it's fine for puttering around the city, going to school etc, long trips? not so much. Even now, I have a vstar 1100 custom, I don't fit it right. (arms are too short) and I can at best go an hour before I need a break.
10-15 years he says lol. You're crazy. You can fly it immediately, just respect the plane and your own skills. Treat it like a cessna 172 and gradually do more once comfortable
@@ViperVideo except that it's not a Cessna 172, a 172 is stable, hard to spin, easy to land and very forgiving, an aerobatic plane is unstable, easy to spin, hard to recover, and absolutely merciless to mistakes
I know several people that died in airplane crashes. It happened more often than you think, one little mistake like forgetting something on the check list and it’s over. Sometimes there is paper thin room for error and sometimes even experienced pilots crash due to mistakes or freak accidents such as the seat rolling back on takeoff causing the yoke to be pulled back or spacial disorientation which is especially not uncommon over water even to experienced pilots. It even happens to fighter pilots in sophisticated aircraft. Case in point, there is a thousand ways to crash due to carelessness, weather, mechanical issues or other pilots not paying attention.
This is so unhinged, I love it. However…. All these fellas preaching an ULTRA conservative approach are spot on. I’m a professional pilot that’s flown everything from ultralights, float planes, helicopters, private jets, WWII bombers, Super Decathlon, Waco YMF, Cubs, etc etc etc. I’ve even owned a Pitts and Citabria. I’ve had 1 flight in an Extra and although perfectly legal, it would be highly inappropriate for even me to jump in an Extra today without having a serious course in the airplane from an experienced instructor. There are so many layers of experience that are worth having before approaching a plane of this caliber. Take the most conservative advice from the most experienced, low ego tailwheel and Extra pilots you can find. I was good enough in slower tailwheel airplanes that the landings were almost boring - even at that level of proficiency stepping up to flying/landing a Pitts or Extra for the first time is still a big step. I’m so excited to follow your journey, but please heed the warnings, commit yourself to the craft and grow your experience at a reasonable rate.
Awesome Extra. Here are two canopy-related pieces of advice: Make shure that nothing comes loose inside the cockpit when you fly. Close all zippers in your suit. If a camera or some other tool hits the inside of the canopy during sudden negative G's, the canopy could easily break. And then you are without a usable plane for months and it will probably put you back at least £ 20k as suggested in this video. And make shure the canopy latch is locked completely before starting the engine. Or if there is a chance a helicopter may hoover close to your plane.
Absolutely love the way you're thinking! Cut down the travelling time- fly faster! If anyone can master an Extra, you can. But probably get a few years on something boring first.
Greg tells the truth so much, listen to him closely. I've been flying passionately for 26 years and have met so many overconfident pilots who either lived to tell the tale or are just silent today. Aviation requires a healthy attitude towards yourself and your limits, otherwise you won't be able to enjoy it for a long time.
A beginner in a 3xx extra, that is like driving a 700hp rallycross car on the road as your daily driver with no experience with rally cars. Even if it do not kill you because it is unstable (on purpose to be a good acrobatic airplane) it will be loud and uncomfortable and not at all suited for normal flying. I just hope you survive with it long enough to understand it is not a good airplane to learn in and for longer flights. It is more a airplane you buy after having 1000s of flight hours in many other aircraft.
@@jcthe2nd that's fine if you're not going to risk others. With aircraft, when it goes wrong the plane is coming down to the ground. Because of that you are exposing uninvolved parties to that risk. So I'll keep my passengers and crew in bubble wrap and keep 'what-if-ing'...
Kevin, I don't think the real danger here is that you can't learn to fly the Extra. If you have good hand-eye coordination and mechanical aptitude (seems you do), you could learn to fly the plane expertly in relatively little time. However, the real problem as a low-time pilot is not learning to fly, it's learning when NOT to fly. I would say flying is 5% stick and rudder skills, 5% aeronautical ("book") knowledge, and fully 90% GOOD JUDGMENT, which takes time to acquire. The greatest danger is not losing control of the plane, it's allowing yourself to get in an unrecoverable spot (like blundering into ice-laden clouds, a dead-end canyon or running out of fuel) because you didn't exercise sound judgment. Really wish you all the best and safe landings. I would look into something like a weather radar-equipped DA42 (with a safety pilot for the first 100 hours) if you want to cross the Channel often. I fly the DA42 and can recommend it, though it can be a bit of a bother maintenance-wise.
Everyone speaking with the exception of Kevin is correct. Having been a part of the aviation community for years as a certificated pilot I can sadly say we've all known and seen these type of want-to-be-pilots come and tragically go, leaving the rest of us broken-hearted with the clouds of NTSB investigations hanging over our heads and rulings made in response to the untrained and foolish actions of those who won't listen. My 5 year old loves Kevin, as do many many others and even he asked why is he not listening to the others so he doesn't get killed. We will pray for him to come to his senses and stick with flight training and flying in a sensible and docile aircraft. The only "to-the-moon" and "more power" we want to see are more RC cars not his one and done imitation of a lawn-dart. Wake up Kevin.
@@VinnyschannelEntertainment is not key, safety is key, entertainment is a LONG way down the list. He’s right. I’ve had the pleasure of flying vintage fast jets and aerobatic aircraft, and currently own a very high performance complex aeroplane. But i started on a little trainer which is exactly what Kevin needs to do. I imagine he’s putting this on for the camera but the amount of mistakes he’s made in this video alone is concerning, like flying an Ikarus C42 to learn on despite that not even being the same licence as the one he wants!
Here's a thing. He's got a lot of qualified folks like yourself quite concerned. He might have painted himself into a bit of a corner here. He either; 1. Knuckles down, stops fannying about and playing the clown. But this might lose him UA-cam followers. 2. Keeps going like this, and posting clips of his various hilarious calamities...putting him right in the sights of the CAA, or whoever regulates private flight. You might be able to answer this question. Can a license be revoked if people are seen to be messing about in the skies? Even if they are 'pretending' to have mishaps? I'm thinking that if he's ever up there flying, surely 100% of his concentration should be on flying...not what will make good viewing.
I personally fly several types of aircraft, from paramotor, ultralight, experimentals, high and low wing...tricycle and taildragger.... I wouldnt jump into that extra without an experienced extra pilot for several hours.... Its a completely different type of animal. When the wallet and ego exceeds your capabilities and luck...it can de deadly. Be safe dude!!! Im not saying that you cant fly it. its just one of the most challenging planes i can imagine to master.
As much as we want to see more power and some crazy stuff playing around in an aircraft like an extra with zero experience could be fatal not only for you but others too. Keep gregg around he’s giving genuine advice and isn’t just a yes man that will potentially get you killed
For someone who doesn’t like the “techno babble” aviation is all about planning and rules and regulations “all very dull” I see your training from my local airfield and Im pretty sure I was watching some of that on the day (I can see them playing in the sky from my work) I sincerely wish you all the best with this venture and take it very seriously! Because we don’t want you to become another UA-camr who ends their life in a plane accident (it’s happening a lot)
Get yourself your NPPL with Greg. Plenty of fast 600Kg composite microlights coming to the UK. That Extra will kill you. If you want something bigger progress to PPL and instrument ratings etc. But it's small steps - you can't rush experience.
The 300 330 extra is a no compromise acrobatics airplane meant to take of and do aerobatics for 10 to 20 min and then land. I is ABSOLUTELY not a airplane for a beginner and it is horrible uncomfortable and unpractical for any other use then short flights doing aerobatics. It is a plane that will be horrible uncomfortable and tiring to fly over longer distance more then 20 minutes. And as I understand it lacks instruments for flying in the clouds meaning it is dangerous to fly long distance for ANYONE as the weather can change quickly.
IMHO the CAA or EASA should issue a restriction of at least a 1000 hrs airtime before being let loose in control of an Extra. I learnt in flying school to fly a Cessna 152, then after I obtained my PPL (JAA CAA) at 45 1/4hrs having passed all my written exams I flew a Cessna C172 Rheims. I then went onto to fly a PA28 Cherokee 180 which again handled totally different to a C172-180. I also flew a PA28 Warrior and a PA28 Archer 3 again different beasts, before flying a PA28 Turbo Arrow 3. That was enough for me at almost 500 hrs. My first ever flight was in a Beech Bonanza V tail as a kid, I’m now 70, this particular plane is now known as the widow maker. Kev, listen to your flight instructor and forget about the Extra. Before even thinking about flying from Isle of Man you need some ratings after you qualify with PPL like a night rating and instrument rating, IMC is the very least otherwise you’ll become a statistic. An Extra and your attitude in this UA-cam is a recipe for disaster or a fool and his money. You just can’t qualify with a PPL then jump into an Extra and fly with low hours experience and fly you need ratings ad experience which you get gradually.
To quote one of the 21st centuries finest aviators "It'll be fine", "What could possibly go wrong?". When you said that you were gong to see your instructor I half expected (hoped) it would be Stemp lol. Kev is actually a very clever man, in his own way. He's not going to treat it like he wasn't in it. RCMann on the other hand... Hide the key's is all I'm saying Kev.
If I was the instructor I would not train you until you either sold the extra or promised not to fly the extra until you had at least 200 hours and 2 years as pic and then at least 30 hours dual time in the extra with a very serious and safety focused instructor. If you keep up the attitude you showed in this video, I'm not sure you'll be alive much longer... IN AVIATION, EITHER SAFETY OR THE COFFIN WILL BE PRIORITY, ITS UP TO YOU.
I would divide those recommendations by two and replace the word "fly" with "solo". Keep in mind that he is already an RC pilot and is very familiar with flying aircraft that have a lot less static and dynamic stability than the Extra has. He needs to learn situational awareness and the flow of general aviation more than stick and rudder skills.
I think that's the thing...his attitude. It's great for the R/C stuff, and eventhe monstertruck. But it just feels like he's being disrespectful to an entire industry by clowning about.
Love the excitement and enthusiasm, and I think the training will set more realistic expectations as you go, learning to fly a plane is a very humbling experience!
Safety first man. Flying an old piper ive had throttle cut inflight, unretractable flaps, open door in flight, air traffic incident, electronics out, and probably more i haven't realized. All within 2 years of flight school. Flying an extra that fast is a recipe for disaster. Im sure this was for laughs
I love the instructor in the yellow jacket. He’s so real about it and Kev just doesn’t care. 😂😂😂 you’re talking to a man that bough a Lambo and built his own Monster Truck… Kev goes big or goes home. But to go home now, he needs a plane. 😂😂😂
Goes home or dies… not the type of industry to go big if you don’t have the experience. This is not a toy like a lambo. I love kev but this is just a really bad decision. Even for cruising this is basically the worst plane possible. Way better of with just a Cessna or something like that
Go for it Kev, Live your dream and do what you want to do in life, You clearly are doing the PPL and training the right way with from what i can see very experienced pilots with loads of hr's under their belt, I'd give anything to be able to learn to fly a full sized plane but for now it's R/C ones, Looking forward to more of this from you soon matey. (Oh and one last thing, It's in your colours already!)
i love to see you following your dreams, be careful, and take the advice from these people your learning from with great value, as we dont was to lose you kev!
You do you man, but personally I'd recommend something like a Cessna 206 or a Beech bonanza g36, plenty fast, and safer than jumping straight into an extra. Stay safe man 🤙
Hey Kev I absolutley love the videos and youre the reason i got back into rc trucks after a long 10 year pause. I live in southern michigan (USA)where experimental and ultralight aircraft are huge. I also have heard horror stories from the news and can only imagine. Almost a year ago today i almost got killed on my motorcycle on the way to work by a woman pulling out her driveway and i was doing about 55mph. I am thankful to be alive and completley blessed to be able to comment my story on here but i guess what im getting at is be careful my man and stay around to keep making these awesome videos, im sure that your channel is a huge factor in the new people getting into RC these days. Safe soaring Kev!
Absolutely epic! This is not going to be fun flying over the seas in bad... well any weather really mate. In fact I don't even think its IFR rated😅. Hell of a plane but wtf lol
Not a pilot, but rather a happy sim pilot here. I can fly and land any plane in the sim. Some of the jets take a bit more dedication and concentration. There is one plane that I 100% avoid, since I cannot fly nor land it comfortably, and that is the Extra.
Buy a high-wing aircraft and after a few years of experience you can sell it off and go to a low-wing model. There is no reset button if you get into a unrecoverable stall.
Get your private license in a piper tomahawk or a cessna 152/172. This is a high performance acrobatic aircraft and its a tail dragger. Almost every aspect of that aircraft needs experience to handle properly. Sick plane but easy way to die quicker than heck if you are not ready for it.
Hi Kev, I too believe you should learn to crawl before you sprint Especially with aircraft. I fly RC aircraft and know the Extra's fly '3D' unlike most planes. Its a high performance full acrobatic aircraft. For a beginner it is 'No go' much like buying a fighter jet. Could I suggest you have a mix of both worlds and learn to fly RC aircraft buy a trainer and buy an RC Extra and one that your instructor recommends. Its cheaper and if it goes in no serious consequences. Love your passion and how you handled the airplane rides! 🤠
That techno babble waffle is what is going to preserve your life. A casual attitude to even the smallest detail can do you in. Risks don’t add they multiply when flying and the pressure to make UA-cam videos and/or to save time make it extra risky. Will you still fly if the weathers a bit dodgy and you have a deadline? Take care mate.
Learning to fly is pretty easy. It usually doesn’t take more than 4-6 hours to reach a level of competence that will allow you to take off, fly a pattern, and land…in a Cessna at least. With a couple months of solid practice, I’m sure you’ll be able to do the same in the Extra. Also, by then, you’ll have realized that it is absolutely the **worst** plane for what you want to do. Aerobatic planes aren’t made to fly anywhere. They’re made to take off, do aerobatics over an airfield, and then land…at the **same** airfield. They **can** be flown from one place to another, but they’re uncomfortable, unstable, and really bad at all the things you have to do while flying from one place to another. That’s ok though. You apparently have an infinite supply of money, so once you’ve realized what a ridiculous mistake you’ve made, you can tuck your Extra into the back of a hangar somewhere, buy a Cirrus or a Honda Jet or something that’s actually pleasant to travel in, and forget you even own the Extra. 🤷♂️
Well, I have taught numerous ab-initio pilots to fly in both Extra 300 & 200 aircraft and found them to be excellent training aircraft. It's an old aviation myth that you need to learn in a low performance "trainer" aircraft. High performance aircraft teach delicate, accurate control, discipline and good habits, as they are very responsive and have very pure control feedback. For similar reasons, gliders are also an excellent training platform, particularly as they demand good feet and hands coordination, something that "training" aircraft don't to the same degree. Popular aircraft like Cessna 152s, 172s, Pipers and so on have flight characteristics designed in to them so that they are overly stable and "easy to fly", however, this doesn't translate into encouraging or demanding good and accurate flying skills. Indeed, quite the opposite. Just because an aircraft is powerful and responsive doesn't mean they aren't good trainers. Learning from the outset in a high performance aircraft isn't for everyone and many instructors wouldn't try it, but that's nothing to do with the suitability of the aircraft. On the contrary, it's to do with instructors, their experience and their competence. The biggest drawback of learning to fly in a high performance aircraft is more to do with the cost, which is likely to be several times more expensive than in a traditional "trainer" type.
Im learning in a c42 microlight, but had a few gos in the extra in the passenger seat. The extra for me feels a lot easier to fly. I haven't taken off and landed with it though so expecting that to be a bit more difficult
@@KevinTalbotTV I think your observations are spot on. High performance aircraft like an Extra are considerably easier to fly than aircraft designed for touring or training. It's simply because the controls are powerful and precise and therefore, the aircraft does exactly what you ask it to do. This is why they install good habits from the start, because unlike more docile aircraft, they don't mask sloppy inputs and poor handling on the part of the pilot. Many people interpret the un-precise handling characteristics of training or touring aircraft as being "easy". I think that this is incorrect. A more appropriate description might be "forgiving". However, if you want to develop good handling skills, being "forgiven" by the aircraft as a baseline is not necessarily a good thing. Yes, learning and achieving the required level of skill in a high performance aircraft is more difficult and may take longer, but this is the price you pay for being better. The skills learned in a high performance aircraft will translate downwards, so to speak, to other, more docile aircraft. Yet, if you learn in a docile aircraft with the aim of flying a high performance aircraft, you'll still have to learn the higher skills required to graduate upwards, and in many cases, you may even be disadvantaged by the poor habits you've picked up initially. Therefore, if you have the funds, the aptitude and most importantly, an instructor capable of teaching you, you may as well learn in the type of aircraft you intend to fly in eventually. Another important point is the difference between a taildragger (tail wheel) configuration aircraft like an Extra and the one you're learning in, (which is a tricycle/nosewheel) configuration. Taking off, landing and ground handling in a taildragger is a whole different ball game to that of a nosewheel aircraft and requires a whole layer of additional training and knowledge, which you'll have to tackle sooner or later before you fly your Extra. If you learn in your Extra or at least get some good DUAL time taking off and landing in it during your basic training, this will help you immensely. I did this a lot with students I was teaching who had already done what you've done and had already bought their Extra, but were undergoing basic training in something else. The difference in their confidence and advancement during their basic training was night and day, plus it made converting them on to their Extra far easier for them when the time came. In case you're wondering, the ease of converting to a taildragger in an Extra as opposed to a lower performance taildragger, such as an older Cessna 150, Piper Cub or a CAP10 is much the same as learning to fly in it. The more powerful controls, particularly the rudder, on the whole make it easier to master. Keeping a taildragger in a straight line during take off and landing is far easier when you have a responsive aircraft. Yes, an Extra has way more power and therefore, many of the forces that influence it during take off and landing are greater, BUT, you don't have to use all of that power in one go! What you're embarking on is by no means an easy task and it will require some serious dedication from you. So, my advice to you is study hard, be very disciplined and find an instructor who is capable of supplementing your training time in the C42 with dual time in your Extra. It doesn't have to be the same instructor! Get in touch if you'd like to discuss any of this in more detail, or would like more guidance. I specialised in this for 15 odd years and have 1,000s of hours instructing in Extras and numerous other types! Oh yes, and listen to Mark too. He knows his stuff 🙂
I fly Cessna Caravans for a living, imo for visiting family you're probably better off with something like cirrus (for practicality) but power to you nothing wrong with buying that thing. You really need to take your time, respect the limits and never push yourself. Accidents can and do happen and complacency is where it starts, aviation is dangerous when not respected.
1. You better listen and listen again to Greg. Make sure this is the only time ever that you disregard his words. 2. He is not the only instructor you are going to need. 3. Have you thought about the maintenance, annual inspection and insurance costs etc that it will incur whilst you are getting your skills up to scratch? No insurance company will insure you to fly it. 4. You will do well to start thinking about the things that this guy talks about: www.youtube.com/@ProbableCause-DanGryder/videos. 5. Far too many have left this earth already for flying lesser performance aircraft because they had the financial means to do so. There's simply no substitute for experience in terms of aviation safety.
if you are not actually intending on parsueing acrobatic flying, like many have said, there are many many other MUCH BETTER first plane choices than the extra... much like the one you are in at 6:46 that RV ain't no slouch either... but you probabababally already made up your mind and will be gettin an extra as your first plane and doin everything required to swing it...... ?? eh... but if you are gunna do acrobatic flying and the reason you are taking flying lessons is to start flying acrobatics, than yea, ending up with an EXTRA is probababally a GOOD THANG :)
Your instructor is amazing. He genuinely cares about your well being, so do take his advice to heart, for your and all of our sakes, Kev :) That said, I do hope you approach this with the persistence and patience you've shown when building your monster truck and will get to fly that F-1 plane of yours without cutting any corners. Really looking forward to seeing you fly this thing. Safely, of course.
I started flying in January 1979, and one sure-fire way of getting yourself killed is by trying to rush into complex aircraft that you're not ready for. *Especially* something like an Extra. This guy appears to be a perfect candidate for that. Seemingly rather foolish and more worried about being a UA-cam 'star' than taking flying seriously. I do wish him the best of luck though. He's going to need it.
This guy is gonna get himself killed before the end of the year if he takes on flying with that attitude, I guess he is putting up some sort of character for the videos
I think Gregg is absolutely someone that you need to keep close to you and take every bit of his advice. I know there's some comedic value in this, but he's 100% bang on, and he's not a yes man for a bit of dosh. Keep him in your list of trustworthy people.
Gregs an awesome dude :)
Greg is a legend. I hope he did take Kev into a dark room for that careful conversation :)
@@ufirex those conversations sometimes need to happen. Right. 👊🏻
It's Greg not Greggs, he's not a sausage roll
@@KevinTalbotTVplease be safe
As a flight instructor, the flight instructor's reaction is totally justified.
Aviation demands diligence in study, discipline, humility, and respect for the craft.
Take what your CFI tells you to heart.
As a viewer, I'm fuckin' pumped!!
I seriously can't wait to see your progress through flying and going through everything from straight and level, ground ref maneuvers, stalls, cross country flights, and hopefully even your instrument rating! I'm an airline pilot, always wanted to do aerobatics, and I am incredibly jealous of your Extra and couple aerobatic flights so far haha
But for real, take it slow, don't get ahead of yourself, and be humble. Lots of people get killed by hubris via aviation.
Think you understated "LOTS" at the end there.
that instructor is literally my new favorite person..
Greg is awesome, such a down to earth and wholesome guy, really represents people in the RC community in the real world in my experience. My BMFA instructor for fixed wing when I did my A certificate with a 6ft 30cc Yak54 was the same. ☺
That was the best "telling offs" I've heard in a long time! 😂
Think it's one that was definitely needed
Kev, in aviation you absolutely cannot run before you can walk! Greg's reaction is completely understandable, some instructors would point blank refuse to teach you as the attitude would worry them. Please listen to the experts, no-one wants a Colin McRae scenario due to your over-enthusiasm. Take it steady and you'll get there.
Damn lol don't Colin McRae it up..... Not an every day name ya hear... Waiting on season 5 still😂
yeah and who taught the wright brothers how to fly?
did they have loads of hours fannying about in flight school did they?
did they feck.
I bet you work in health and safety or some nonsense.
too many risk averse people in the UK now, were a laughing stock, it's not the attitude that got young men in the air after a couple of lessons with a spitfire during WW2 was it eh?
Stop being soft for other people, be soft in your own world by all means, but just because you are scared, doesnt mean others are.
@@BHALT0S The rules in aviation are written in the blood of those who came before. Times and standards change.
@@chrisgoblin4857 times and such change, but not all people do, and thats why we have the darwin awards.
I want my entertainment too like.
More of Greg, please. Guy is a legend, and knows his stuff. Listen to him.
Well, it was a pleasure to meet you, we will remember you as the madman who jumped from an RC to an acrobatic plane and from there to the sky (with San Pedro)
I will remember thinking about how he payed for all his hobbies just running a hobby onlineshop and a youtube channel.
imagine an rc that can bring up a man who jumps out from atop of that rc and lands in an extra
sell it. the instructor is worried about you not mad.
They say rc pilots make the best pilots and are easiest to jnstruct
Ffs Kev, get plenty of hours in before you take out by yourself. 🤦🏻♂️
Kev, I've only been subbed for about 2 years, and your channel is what drove me to get back into RC, and get some hobby grade cars. I've loved the monster truck series as well, and now you've gone and got an airplane. Please, please, please, listen to all the advice from your instructor and don't fall victim to temptation to start going crazy with this plane any time soon. I was an instrument flight controls specialist in the Air Force, and I know how complex and dangerous planes can be, especially the high horsepower, high performance models. I really don't want to come on YT and see one of your friends making a video about your final flight in your newest toy. I wish you all the best, and safe aviation.
Listen to your instructor. One small error can cost you everything.
this
MORE POWER supercedes safety LOL
That's life goofy
@@marcusjackson2874 if its take two people kevin got 200lbs of rc stuff to cary with him.
@marcusjackson2874 pretty sure he just wants to go fast. Look at his content, the man doesn't do slow. 😂
That’s a decent instructor to scold you without hesitation.
I agree with the instructor, the extra is fast, but there are other more comfortable fast aircraft out the. It's less about the extra being mental, more its just wasted money on a loud rattlebox when there are "cruisers" out there.
Yeah that thing doesn't look too enjoyable to be in! Like taking a trip in a stripped out car with loud exhaust and stiff suspension.
I think Kev just wants to depart an airfield like a bat out of hell and come in doing barrel rolls and inverted loops...! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He has a Lambo and built his own Monster Truck after all - for him, it's go big, or go home...
He coulda gone for a Mooney or a Cirrus with that kind of money
It's an extremely bad idea, this is going to end in a crash. His attitude just won't be right for flying let alone something like that. Something like an SR22 or Bonanza etc will be so much better
As someone with over a thousand hours just on high-performance tail-draggers, I can safely say that an Extra is probably the last aircraft I would purchase for your planned mission. Even forgetting the significant aerobatic capability and instability of the Extra, the weather over the Irish Sea is poor at the best of times, with either solid IFR or at best a very limited visible horizon to assist you. Sea crossings on even the nicest days have a nasty habit of the sea blending into the sky and you feeling like you are flying in a goldfish bowl unaware of which is up or down! You require an aircraft with IFR capabilities, preferably FIKI and a stable instrument platform - an autopilot would also be of great benefit!
Kevin, this advice is so true. Charter a flight across the Irish Sea in a PC-12 on a bad weather day and watch the conditions yourself if you don't believe @markjarrett6893
You are stupid
This is the real problem with the Extra. Not it's "hotrod" performance characteristics.
19:46 your instructor 😂cracked me up 😂 😂
too funny, but hes right!
@@KevinTalbotTV😂
I think your flight instructor had good reason to speak to you like you did
Kevin you need to listen the experts when it comes to flying mate you potentially risking other safety if things go wrong
I think he is making an entertainment video where he is putting-on like he is ignoring the safety. He doesn’t have a death wish so it’s a pretty safe bet he is going to go through all the training before he is up there doing stunts by himself. Just a hunch.
@@rustbucket9318 Plus, he just want a fast plane. And most people can drive fast. But wont win acrobatic competitions :P
I feel sorry for that flight instructor
He's just taking it lightly for the entertainment, off camera i'm sure he's taking it as seriously as he should
Like they say: "There Are Old Pilots, and There Are Bold Pilots, But There Are No Old, Bold Pilots"
The sensible way would be to get his pilot license, then get a nice tricyle gear plane, rack up more hours and then think about the Extra
I am 100% behind you Kev as far as getting your pilots license Kev. But you really need to listen to everything your instructor tells you. Everything about aviation is about being 100% thorough. There are no short cuts and if something goes wrong the outcome can be pretty binary. I'd like to keep watching you for years yet, so do everything properly.
As nice as your new plane is, it's fundamentally not the plane for a beginner, or even very good for doing distance. The plane you are learning on, and say something like the Cessna 172 are very stable planes and are much better for the first couple of years of flying.
That kind of lack of control responsiveness and stability gives you time to figure out what is happening and get yourself out of bad situations.
That aerobatic plane is the very opposite, and you need years of experience to fly it safely.
Anyway, best of luck.
Plus it has no avionics, if you find yourself caught in the weather you're straight f-cked. Not really an appropriate plane for crossing water and flying long distance.
As someone who has flown both real airplanes and RC airplanes, its about 100x easier to take off and fly an actual airplane even for long distances. Now remembering what all the switches and knobs do and landing safe and smooth is the hard part. Im talking about single propeller planes tho, I know nothing about jets or multi props. But I took off and flew a cessna before I graduated high school. My first flight was over an hour. Ive never had a rc plane fly more than 3 mins without crashing. A stunt plane is a wild first choice but I can't knock it. Still light enough to glide pretty well incase of engine failure. Just focus more on learning than actually filming or cameras until you get comfortable. A tumble wumble hits alot different from hundreds and thousands of feet in the air.
Also just to be clear, as far as transportion a aerobatic plane is a terrible choice. Alot of fuel, more maintenance, no room for much luggage, all that plus what you mentioned. It's absolutely not practical and saving an hour on the commute isn't going to make up for it. But if half your reason is for pure fun and adrenaline then you made the right choice and it'll be easy to deal with the rest. Who cares, it's your money and life and it'll be fun to watch you join the aviation hobby. Plus it's not like you're in it... Oh wait 😂
If you've flown, you should know about lift....a low wing sport plane has minimal lift and relies on HP to keep it up. A high wing like a cessna doesn't require a lot of power to keep it flying. For eg: the stall speed of a cessna 172 is 40 knots, an EA-300 is 55 knots. (almost 50% faster).
with a high wing aircraft, it basically WANTS to fly level since the weight is below the wing. A low wing aircraft all the weight is above the wing which makes it want to tip over, hence why you can do aerobatics with them.
"Just focus more on learning than actually filming or cameras until you get comfortable"
Incredible advice
Tumble wumble happens at ground level !
@@1979augistine Tumble wumble can happy at any level, it's just usually happened at ground level lol
this guy is gonna be one of those guys that end up on a list of you tubers that died making a video
18:50 Oh deer, what a takeoff...
I think you would have got a lot more out of it had you bought a cruising airplane, like a Diamond or a Cessna. Your instructor said that the Extra is like an F1 car. It's not. It's worse. You can always stop and get out of an F1 car. You don't have that option with an Extra.
Not to mention that it's a terrible cruiser. Uses up a ton of gas, doesn't carry very much, it's very uncomfortable, and you'll probably freeze in it. You need a Diamond Katana, mate.
Pretty sure it's not IFR rated either. Dude should have bought a Cirrus.
I'm not an aviation expert by a long shot. BUT yes, there's a TON of fast comfortable and cool aircraft around. To me, this is like touring on a motocross bike. The SR22T or SR22 would have been a better choice me thinks.
@@muskokamike127 Tourning on a motorcross bike, been there done that ;) Did a 2 day 900km trip on my Yamaha WR450F road legal enduro dirtbike. It was not pleasant cruising for hours at 90km/h for 2 days.
@@a64738 When I was a teen I had a honda 125, used to go everywhere on that and while it's fine for puttering around the city, going to school etc, long trips? not so much.
Even now, I have a vstar 1100 custom, I don't fit it right. (arms are too short) and I can at best go an hour before I need a break.
This is going to make a good episode of Pilot Debrief. I mean youtuber and learning to fly have such a good record, I can't see anything going wrong.
I have one point to make. Remember the guy who built and submerged in the TITAN SUBMARINE!!! Don’t repeat his mistakes!! Overconfidence is a killer!
It’s pretty good for getting clicks on YT though.
@@rickrussell Yeah The Titan guy gets millions every day... pity he's fish food
@@mikebowers7161he got f*cking desintagrated
I thought you meant titanic at first. That too!
Student pilot here, beautiful plane you brought!
just don't go flying it until you are ready, maybe 10-15 years from now.
10-15 years he says lol. You're crazy. You can fly it immediately, just respect the plane and your own skills. Treat it like a cessna 172 and gradually do more once comfortable
@@ViperVideo except that it's not a Cessna 172, a 172 is stable, hard to spin, easy to land and very forgiving, an aerobatic plane is unstable, easy to spin, hard to recover, and absolutely merciless to mistakes
@calebmenker988 it doesn't matter. My point still stands, don't fly it aggressively, and it'll be fine.
@@ViperVideoI agree 10-15 years is dramatic, but I’m curious… are you a pilot? And have you flown an Extra or any other hot tailwheel airplane?
Love the reaction of the instructor
It was staged. Or do you think he didn't notice the Extra landing on his airstrip sitting in his shed?
He's a good actor if he did know
It was nice having you to entertain me we will miss you kev ❤
Be careful, bro
I know several people that died in airplane crashes. It happened more often than you think, one little mistake like forgetting something on the check list and it’s over. Sometimes there is paper thin room for error and sometimes even experienced pilots crash due to mistakes or freak accidents such as the seat rolling back on takeoff causing the yoke to be pulled back or spacial disorientation which is especially not uncommon over water even to experienced pilots. It even happens to fighter pilots in sophisticated aircraft. Case in point, there is a thousand ways to crash due to carelessness, weather, mechanical issues or other pilots not paying attention.
The flying instructors reaction was priceless. Had me rolling around laughing.
the disappointed parent scolding was hilarious. He only cares for your safety Kev, but we all know you do whatever the f*** you want 😂😂😂
Why i got a feeling that we are gonna lose a legend
This is so unhinged, I love it. However…. All these fellas preaching an ULTRA conservative approach are spot on. I’m a professional pilot that’s flown everything from ultralights, float planes, helicopters, private jets, WWII bombers, Super Decathlon, Waco YMF, Cubs, etc etc etc. I’ve even owned a Pitts and Citabria. I’ve had 1 flight in an Extra and although perfectly legal, it would be highly inappropriate for even me to jump in an Extra today without having a serious course in the airplane from an experienced instructor. There are so many layers of experience that are worth having before approaching a plane of this caliber. Take the most conservative advice from the most experienced, low ego tailwheel and Extra pilots you can find. I was good enough in slower tailwheel airplanes that the landings were almost boring - even at that level of proficiency stepping up to flying/landing a Pitts or Extra for the first time is still a big step. I’m so excited to follow your journey, but please heed the warnings, commit yourself to the craft and grow your experience at a reasonable rate.
That’s awesome. Stay safe, Kev 🙏
Awesome Extra. Here are two canopy-related pieces of advice: Make shure that nothing comes loose inside the cockpit when you fly. Close all zippers in your suit. If a camera or some other tool hits the inside of the canopy during sudden negative G's, the canopy could easily break. And then you are without a usable plane for months and it will probably put you back at least £ 20k as suggested in this video. And make shure the canopy latch is locked completely before starting the engine. Or if there is a chance a helicopter may hoover close to your plane.
I’m with the instructor on this one. You’re an absolute walloper mate 🫡
Absolutely love the way you're thinking! Cut down the travelling time- fly faster! If anyone can master an Extra, you can. But probably get a few years on something boring first.
Did anyone else notice the deer running beside his new plane when when it was taking off? 😮 18:50ish in.
Greg tells the truth so much, listen to him closely. I've been flying passionately for 26 years and have met so many overconfident pilots who either lived to tell the tale or are just silent today. Aviation requires a healthy attitude towards yourself and your limits, otherwise you won't be able to enjoy it for a long time.
Nice one Kev, its fun that you get to experience other interesting hobbies instead of RC alone. Keep it up!
A beginner in a 3xx extra, that is like driving a 700hp rallycross car on the road as your daily driver with no experience with rally cars. Even if it do not kill you because it is unstable (on purpose to be a good acrobatic airplane) it will be loud and uncomfortable and not at all suited for normal flying. I just hope you survive with it long enough to understand it is not a good airplane to learn in and for longer flights. It is more a airplane you buy after having 1000s of flight hours in many other aircraft.
Stick to R C planes dude - you can walk away from crashes with just a hurt pocket 😊
F That you got to live a little if he dies at least he was enjoying himself
@@jcthe2ndand what about if he hits a car / house / pedestrian (think shoreham air show)…
@@FlyingSi stop living in bubble rap and stop living in what ifs there will always be what ifs in life
@@jcthe2nd that's fine if you're not going to risk others. With aircraft, when it goes wrong the plane is coming down to the ground. Because of that you are exposing uninvolved parties to that risk. So I'll keep my passengers and crew in bubble wrap and keep 'what-if-ing'...
Kevin, I don't think the real danger here is that you can't learn to fly the Extra. If you have good hand-eye coordination and mechanical aptitude (seems you do), you could learn to fly the plane expertly in relatively little time. However, the real problem as a low-time pilot is not learning to fly, it's learning when NOT to fly.
I would say flying is 5% stick and rudder skills, 5% aeronautical ("book") knowledge, and fully 90% GOOD JUDGMENT, which takes time to acquire.
The greatest danger is not losing control of the plane, it's allowing yourself to get in an unrecoverable spot (like blundering into ice-laden clouds, a dead-end canyon or running out of fuel) because you didn't exercise sound judgment.
Really wish you all the best and safe landings. I would look into something like a weather radar-equipped DA42 (with a safety pilot for the first 100 hours) if you want to cross the Channel often. I fly the DA42 and can recommend it, though it can be a bit of a bother maintenance-wise.
Everyone speaking with the exception of Kevin is correct. Having been a part of the aviation community for years as a certificated pilot I can sadly say we've all known and seen these type of want-to-be-pilots come and tragically go, leaving the rest of us broken-hearted with the clouds of NTSB investigations hanging over our heads and rulings made in response to the untrained and foolish actions of those who won't listen. My 5 year old loves Kevin, as do many many others and even he asked why is he not listening to the others so he doesn't get killed. We will pray for him to come to his senses and stick with flight training and flying in a sensible and docile aircraft. The only "to-the-moon" and "more power" we want to see are more RC cars not his one and done imitation of a lawn-dart. Wake up Kevin.
You said it all !
Haha, chill out! Entertainment is key!! 😅
@@VinnyschannelEntertainment is not key, safety is key, entertainment is a LONG way down the list. He’s right. I’ve had the pleasure of flying vintage fast jets and aerobatic aircraft, and currently own a very high performance complex aeroplane. But i started on a little trainer which is exactly what Kevin needs to do. I imagine he’s putting this on for the camera but the amount of mistakes he’s made in this video alone is concerning, like flying an Ikarus C42 to learn on despite that not even being the same licence as the one he wants!
Here's a thing. He's got a lot of qualified folks like yourself quite concerned. He might have painted himself into a bit of a corner here. He either;
1. Knuckles down, stops fannying about and playing the clown. But this might lose him UA-cam followers.
2. Keeps going like this, and posting clips of his various hilarious calamities...putting him right in the sights of the CAA, or whoever regulates private flight.
You might be able to answer this question. Can a license be revoked if people are seen to be messing about in the skies? Even if they are 'pretending' to have mishaps? I'm thinking that if he's ever up there flying, surely 100% of his concentration should be on flying...not what will make good viewing.
I personally fly several types of aircraft, from paramotor, ultralight, experimentals, high and low wing...tricycle and taildragger.... I wouldnt jump into that extra without an experienced extra pilot for several hours.... Its a completely different type of animal. When the wallet and ego exceeds your capabilities and luck...it can de deadly. Be safe dude!!! Im not saying that you cant fly it. its just one of the most challenging planes i can imagine to master.
As much as we want to see more power and some crazy stuff playing around in an aircraft like an extra with zero experience could be fatal not only for you but others too. Keep gregg around he’s giving genuine advice and isn’t just a yes man that will potentially get you killed
For someone who doesn’t like the “techno babble” aviation is all about planning and rules and regulations “all very dull”
I see your training from my local airfield and Im pretty sure I was watching some of that on the day (I can see them playing in the sky from my work)
I sincerely wish you all the best with this venture and take it very seriously! Because we don’t want you to become another UA-camr who ends their life in a plane accident (it’s happening a lot)
Get yourself your NPPL with Greg. Plenty of fast 600Kg composite microlights coming to the UK. That Extra will kill you. If you want something bigger progress to PPL and instrument ratings etc. But it's small steps - you can't rush experience.
The 300 330 extra is a no compromise acrobatics airplane meant to take of and do aerobatics for 10 to 20 min and then land. I is ABSOLUTELY not a airplane for a beginner and it is horrible uncomfortable and unpractical for any other use then short flights doing aerobatics. It is a plane that will be horrible uncomfortable and tiring to fly over longer distance more then 20 minutes. And as I understand it lacks instruments for flying in the clouds meaning it is dangerous to fly long distance for ANYONE as the weather can change quickly.
Huge support from the states!
That support can be deadly.
IMHO the CAA or EASA should issue a restriction of at least a 1000 hrs airtime before being let loose in control of an Extra. I learnt in flying school to fly a Cessna 152, then after I obtained my PPL (JAA CAA) at 45 1/4hrs having passed all my written exams I flew a Cessna C172 Rheims. I then went onto to fly a PA28 Cherokee 180 which again handled totally different to a C172-180. I also flew a PA28 Warrior and a PA28 Archer 3 again different beasts, before flying a PA28 Turbo Arrow 3. That was enough for me at almost 500 hrs. My first ever flight was in a Beech Bonanza V tail as a kid, I’m now 70, this particular plane is now known as the widow maker. Kev, listen to your flight instructor and forget about the Extra. Before even thinking about flying from Isle of Man you need some ratings after you qualify with PPL like a night rating and instrument rating, IMC is the very least otherwise you’ll become a statistic. An Extra and your attitude in this UA-cam is a recipe for disaster or a fool and his money. You just can’t qualify with a PPL then jump into an Extra and fly with low hours experience and fly you need ratings ad experience which you get gradually.
To quote one of the 21st centuries finest aviators "It'll be fine", "What could possibly go wrong?". When you said that you were gong to see your instructor I half expected (hoped) it would be Stemp lol. Kev is actually a very clever man, in his own way. He's not going to treat it like he wasn't in it. RCMann on the other hand... Hide the key's is all I'm saying Kev.
Kevin lives my dream life, what a man!
You've had a little wiggle of the stick have ya, That instructor is hilarious. Looking forward to your new journeys!!
My favorite airplane ever! Soooo much fun!
Amazing video😊 i love every 26 minutes
20:06 “ what the f**k have you done” 🤣🤣
If I was the instructor I would not train you until you either sold the extra or promised not to fly the extra until you had at least 200 hours and 2 years as pic and then at least 30 hours dual time in the extra with a very serious and safety focused instructor.
If you keep up the attitude you showed in this video, I'm not sure you'll be alive much longer...
IN AVIATION, EITHER SAFETY OR THE COFFIN WILL BE PRIORITY, ITS UP TO YOU.
I would divide those recommendations by two and replace the word "fly" with "solo". Keep in mind that he is already an RC pilot and is very familiar with flying aircraft that have a lot less static and dynamic stability than the Extra has. He needs to learn situational awareness and the flow of general aviation more than stick and rudder skills.
I think that's the thing...his attitude.
It's great for the R/C stuff, and eventhe monstertruck. But it just feels like he's being disrespectful to an entire industry by clowning about.
Love the excitement and enthusiasm, and I think the training will set more realistic expectations as you go, learning to fly a plane is a very humbling experience!
Red, white and black? GAME OVER paint scheme, baby! 👍
Ok here we go baby!!!!!!! 🥤🍿🥤🍿👊👊👍👍
Safety first man. Flying an old piper ive had throttle cut inflight, unretractable flaps, open door in flight, air traffic incident, electronics out, and probably more i haven't realized. All within 2 years of flight school. Flying an extra that fast is a recipe for disaster. Im sure this was for laughs
I love the instructor in the yellow jacket. He’s so real about it and Kev just doesn’t care. 😂😂😂 you’re talking to a man that bough a Lambo and built his own Monster Truck… Kev goes big or goes home. But to go home now, he needs a plane. 😂😂😂
Goes home or dies… not the type of industry to go big if you don’t have the experience. This is not a toy like a lambo. I love kev but this is just a really bad decision. Even for cruising this is basically the worst plane possible. Way better of with just a Cessna or something like that
Go for it Kev, Live your dream and do what you want to do in life, You clearly are doing the PPL and training the right way with from what i can see very experienced pilots with loads of hr's under their belt, I'd give anything to be able to learn to fly a full sized plane but for now it's R/C ones, Looking forward to more of this from you soon matey. (Oh and one last thing, It's in your colours already!)
I would go for an RV8 as they are way better for a starter in aerobatics
I really hope it all works out Kev, stay safe and listen to your instructor. Good Luck.
Apologies to the flight instructor for having to deal with these UA-camrs.
Lost a lot of respect Kevin. Pretty dumb mate
i love to see you following your dreams, be careful, and take the advice from these people your learning from with great value, as we dont was to lose you kev!
Today I got a new rc car 😊😊
which one?
Me too
Sick what is it
I just got the Vanquish H10 2 days ago 😊
@@jonwitherow1434 what’s that a rc plane or boat or something
You do you man, but personally I'd recommend something like a Cessna 206 or a Beech bonanza g36, plenty fast, and safer than jumping straight into an extra.
Stay safe man 🤙
To those warning him, he really doesnt care and wont listen . Let him learn from crashing it
Hey Kev I absolutley love the videos and youre the reason i got back into rc trucks after a long 10 year pause. I live in southern michigan (USA)where experimental and ultralight aircraft are huge. I also have heard horror stories from the news and can only imagine. Almost a year ago today i almost got killed on my motorcycle on the way to work by a woman pulling out her driveway and i was doing about 55mph. I am thankful to be alive and completley blessed to be able to comment my story on here but i guess what im getting at is be careful my man and stay around to keep making these awesome videos, im sure that your channel is a huge factor in the new people getting into RC these days. Safe soaring Kev!
Absolutely epic!
This is not going to be fun flying over the seas in bad... well any weather really mate. In fact I don't even think its IFR rated😅. Hell of a plane but wtf lol
Yeah, can’t fly it in bad visibility
A prime example of more $ than brains!
This feels reckless.
I think you mean wreckfull
Not a pilot, but rather a happy sim pilot here. I can fly and land any plane in the sim. Some of the jets take a bit more dedication and concentration. There is one plane that I 100% avoid, since I cannot fly nor land it comfortably, and that is the Extra.
Also a sim pilot here, can confirm.
The 3xx extra is the hardest airplane to fly in any sim I have tried, and I guess it is same in real life...
Buy a high-wing aircraft and after a few years of experience you can sell it off and go to a low-wing model. There is no reset button if you get into a unrecoverable stall.
Get your private license in a piper tomahawk or a cessna 152/172. This is a high performance acrobatic aircraft and its a tail dragger. Almost every aspect of that aircraft needs experience to handle properly. Sick plane but easy way to die quicker than heck if you are not ready for it.
Man! You are living your life to the Max. Smart guy you Mr. Talbot! Good luck with the new wings
Mate, those two Porches are gorgeous. This man obviously has some fun toys. Love it.
with that money he could have bought a Daher TBM 930. That is way easier to fly and it's super comfortable, it's like a Mercedes with wings.
LOVE the flight instructors reaction PURE GOLD XD
There is no "Whaa 'appened...?!" after a cock up in one of those...
Hi Kev, I too believe you should learn to crawl before you sprint Especially with aircraft. I fly RC aircraft and know the Extra's fly '3D' unlike most planes. Its a high performance full acrobatic aircraft. For a beginner it is 'No go' much like buying a fighter jet.
Could I suggest you have a mix of both worlds and learn to fly RC aircraft buy a trainer and buy an RC Extra and one that your instructor recommends. Its cheaper and if it goes in no serious consequences.
Love your passion and how you handled the airplane rides! 🤠
That techno babble waffle is what is going to preserve your life. A casual attitude to even the smallest detail can do you in. Risks don’t add they multiply when flying and the pressure to make UA-cam videos and/or to save time make it extra risky. Will you still fly if the weathers a bit dodgy and you have a deadline? Take care mate.
It’s fine I don’t have deadlines
If you've watched Kevin long enough, you should know that you can't take his casual attitude at face value. Trust me, he's taking this very seriously.
Nice Video keV 👍✌️👍😅
All the gear and no idea.
Money's worth nothing to you when you're dead....
thats why you gotta spend it all before you die!
huge fan but the fact you were more interested in filming the lesson than paying attention to what hes saying was absolutely alarming
dont be silly, this is one of many lessons, and the video footage helps me learn because i can watch it back over and over at home
Learning to fly is pretty easy. It usually doesn’t take more than 4-6 hours to reach a level of competence that will allow you to take off, fly a pattern, and land…in a Cessna at least. With a couple months of solid practice, I’m sure you’ll be able to do the same in the Extra. Also, by then, you’ll have realized that it is absolutely the **worst** plane for what you want to do. Aerobatic planes aren’t made to fly anywhere. They’re made to take off, do aerobatics over an airfield, and then land…at the **same** airfield. They **can** be flown from one place to another, but they’re uncomfortable, unstable, and really bad at all the things you have to do while flying from one place to another. That’s ok though. You apparently have an infinite supply of money, so once you’ve realized what a ridiculous mistake you’ve made, you can tuck your Extra into the back of a hangar somewhere, buy a Cirrus or a Honda Jet or something that’s actually pleasant to travel in, and forget you even own the Extra. 🤷♂️
Look at all of this engagement!! You sly guy😆
You need to build one that would be great to watch
Well, I have taught numerous ab-initio pilots to fly in both Extra 300 & 200 aircraft and found them to be excellent training aircraft. It's an old aviation myth that you need to learn in a low performance "trainer" aircraft. High performance aircraft teach delicate, accurate control, discipline and good habits, as they are very responsive and have very pure control feedback. For similar reasons, gliders are also an excellent training platform, particularly as they demand good feet and hands coordination, something that "training" aircraft don't to the same degree.
Popular aircraft like Cessna 152s, 172s, Pipers and so on have flight characteristics designed in to them so that they are overly stable and "easy to fly", however, this doesn't translate into encouraging or demanding good and accurate flying skills. Indeed, quite the opposite. Just because an aircraft is powerful and responsive doesn't mean they aren't good trainers.
Learning from the outset in a high performance aircraft isn't for everyone and many instructors wouldn't try it, but that's nothing to do with the suitability of the aircraft. On the contrary, it's to do with instructors, their experience and their competence. The biggest drawback of learning to fly in a high performance aircraft is more to do with the cost, which is likely to be several times more expensive than in a traditional "trainer" type.
Im learning in a c42 microlight, but had a few gos in the extra in the passenger seat. The extra for me feels a lot easier to fly. I haven't taken off and landed with it though so expecting that to be a bit more difficult
@@KevinTalbotTV I think your observations are spot on. High performance aircraft like an Extra are considerably easier to fly than aircraft designed for touring or training. It's simply because the controls are powerful and precise and therefore, the aircraft does exactly what you ask it to do. This is why they install good habits from the start, because unlike more docile aircraft, they don't mask sloppy inputs and poor handling on the part of the pilot.
Many people interpret the un-precise handling characteristics of training or touring aircraft as being "easy". I think that this is incorrect. A more appropriate description might be "forgiving". However, if you want to develop good handling skills, being "forgiven" by the aircraft as a baseline is not necessarily a good thing. Yes, learning and achieving the required level of skill in a high performance aircraft is more difficult and may take longer, but this is the price you pay for being better. The skills learned in a high performance aircraft will translate downwards, so to speak, to other, more docile aircraft. Yet, if you learn in a docile aircraft with the aim of flying a high performance aircraft, you'll still have to learn the higher skills required to graduate upwards, and in many cases, you may even be disadvantaged by the poor habits you've picked up initially. Therefore, if you have the funds, the aptitude and most importantly, an instructor capable of teaching you, you may as well learn in the type of aircraft you intend to fly in eventually.
Another important point is the difference between a taildragger (tail wheel) configuration aircraft like an Extra and the one you're learning in, (which is a tricycle/nosewheel) configuration. Taking off, landing and ground handling in a taildragger is a whole different ball game to that of a nosewheel aircraft and requires a whole layer of additional training and knowledge, which you'll have to tackle sooner or later before you fly your Extra. If you learn in your Extra or at least get some good DUAL time taking off and landing in it during your basic training, this will help you immensely. I did this a lot with students I was teaching who had already done what you've done and had already bought their Extra, but were undergoing basic training in something else. The difference in their confidence and advancement during their basic training was night and day, plus it made converting them on to their Extra far easier for them when the time came.
In case you're wondering, the ease of converting to a taildragger in an Extra as opposed to a lower performance taildragger, such as an older Cessna 150, Piper Cub or a CAP10 is much the same as learning to fly in it. The more powerful controls, particularly the rudder, on the whole make it easier to master. Keeping a taildragger in a straight line during take off and landing is far easier when you have a responsive aircraft. Yes, an Extra has way more power and therefore, many of the forces that influence it during take off and landing are greater, BUT, you don't have to use all of that power in one go!
What you're embarking on is by no means an easy task and it will require some serious dedication from you. So, my advice to you is study hard, be very disciplined and find an instructor who is capable of supplementing your training time in the C42 with dual time in your Extra. It doesn't have to be the same instructor!
Get in touch if you'd like to discuss any of this in more detail, or would like more guidance. I specialised in this for 15 odd years and have 1,000s of hours instructing in Extras and numerous other types!
Oh yes, and listen to Mark too. He knows his stuff 🙂
I fly Cessna Caravans for a living, imo for visiting family you're probably better off with something like cirrus (for practicality) but power to you nothing wrong with buying that thing. You really need to take your time, respect the limits and never push yourself. Accidents can and do happen and complacency is where it starts, aviation is dangerous when not respected.
1. You better listen and listen again to Greg. Make sure this is the only time ever that you disregard his words. 2. He is not the only instructor you are going to need. 3. Have you thought about the maintenance, annual inspection and insurance costs etc that it will incur whilst you are getting your skills up to scratch? No insurance company will insure you to fly it. 4. You will do well to start thinking about the things that this guy talks about: www.youtube.com/@ProbableCause-DanGryder/videos. 5. Far too many have left this earth already for flying lesser performance aircraft because they had the financial means to do so. There's simply no substitute for experience in terms of aviation safety.
By the time all the checks are done you could have driven quicker 😂
if you are not actually intending on parsueing acrobatic flying, like many have said, there are many many other MUCH BETTER first plane choices than the extra... much like the one you are in at 6:46 that RV ain't no slouch either... but you probabababally already made up your mind and will be gettin an extra as your first plane and doin everything required to swing it...... ?? eh... but if you are gunna do acrobatic flying and the reason you are taking flying lessons is to start flying acrobatics, than yea, ending up with an EXTRA is probababally a GOOD THANG :)
This isnt a good idea, please be careful
Your instructor is amazing. He genuinely cares about your well being, so do take his advice to heart, for your and all of our sakes, Kev :)
That said, I do hope you approach this with the persistence and patience you've shown when building your monster truck and will get to fly that F-1 plane of yours without cutting any corners. Really looking forward to seeing you fly this thing. Safely, of course.
I started flying in January 1979, and one sure-fire way of getting yourself killed is by trying to rush into complex aircraft that you're not ready for. *Especially* something like an Extra. This guy appears to be a perfect candidate for that. Seemingly rather foolish and more worried about being a UA-cam 'star' than taking flying seriously.
I do wish him the best of luck though. He's going to need it.
This guy is gonna get himself killed before the end of the year if he takes on flying with that attitude, I guess he is putting up some sort of character for the videos
Basher rc's, lambo, monster truck, stunt plane. Brilliant. Your a smart man Kev, be safe buddy for all our sakes... John
Greg is priceless! Protect that man and listen well Kev!
I love how you did the old style of intro! I really love when you do the videos like that!