15 Deleted Things From Dragon Ball That Change Everything
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Dragon Ball has been going for over 30 years, standing as one of the biggest and most successful franchises in the history of pop culture. However, like any piece of media, the series wasn’t always what it is now. It went through countless revisions, both before it was being created and throughout each major story arc. Everything from the editor input that changed and reshaped the Androids saga to the reason behind Perfect Cell’s appearance, there are plenty of interesting stories to tell about the creation of Dragon Ball.
This is to say that there are a lot of instances throughout the franchise where an initial idea, concept, design or plot was abandoned in favor of something else. Meaning, there are a bunch of trashed ideas that would’ve changed everything if they got used in the final product. Things like Buu being a part of the Tournament of Power in the Universal Survival Saga, the series’ initial planned ending after the Frieza Saga, the reason behind Super Saiyan and, of course, all the movies and series that’re now considered non-canon.
In this video, we take a look at all the wild things that almost happened in Dragon Ball, from discarded designs to last minute changes. How did Cell almost look? What was the origin of the Dragon Ball manga? What scenes were deleted from Dragon Ball Super Broly? Take a look to find out and let us know what you think of these trashed ideas that almost changed everything about Dragon Ball.
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I'm sure they also deleted a few scenes of screaming. Just pure screaming.
Hey I know you 👀
Jellal with a mustache😓
What screaming, they never screamed. lol
@@mactony4 Shut up
And this... is to go even further beyond, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The angels smiled because the grand priest told them via telepathy that they would be having a HUGE pizza party after the tournament
Yess
Lol they would not be invited if they didn’t smile lol
No, it was a random visual anime trope. It is just supposed to "look" like something might be up, as a red herring, inconsistent with anything. It was obvious as such from the beginning. If one genuinely starts speculating then, one doesn't understand anything. Also, that was filler content for the video, as they have no reference to such plans...
BFKC R/woooosh
@@bfkc111 😟
It's stated in Dragonball super that if Gohan were to train he would surpass Goku and Vegeta. Btw it's Vegeta who states this. Which given his pride says a lot.
@Brett Dorsey While I am fed that he didn’t show up in DBS Broly, I hope Gohan will gain a form beyond Mystic and finish up Frieza as he promised.
@@a.jthomas6132 Super Saiyan Mystic. :)
That statement was proven false. Part of your potential is your willingness and ability to spend every waking moment of your life training.. This is where gohans potential takes an L.. This is where goku and vegeta outshine him completely and believe it or not it's this portion of potential that Gohan can't keep up with.. Since time has proven he can't keep up with goku and vegeta despite him USED TO gaining more power in short amounts of time. Now that goku and vegeta shattered the potential of their bodies they have more than Gohan for sure.. But yeah Gohan WI never catch up
@@DetectiveMysterious he's a dad now
@@DetectiveMysterious well he gains that back during the tournament training arc. It's not directly stated at that point but the fact that he was able to last 5 minutes against ssjb says quite a bit. Which given the very limited time he had to train is impressive to say the least. If given time to properly train and maintain his motivation he'd be a beast.
"Frieza is based off of Real Estate Speculators."
That...actually explains a lot.
LMAO the legendary equity investor.
They RUINED gohan after the cell arc
Chi chi ruined gohan from the beginning.
As a character, he is just right. His development was consistent and made sense. Also, it is a better story than "Goku 2.0" if he is a different character.
He wasn’t gonna be a goku 2.0 he was gonna be a badass gohan
Gohan is significantly stronger than Goku if you were to compare Goku at Gohan age currently
@@imtoxicaf7980 Gohan supposed to replace Goku and Goku supposed to stay dead. However, Gohan was not popular enough so this idea was ditched.
Anybody came here just because the thumbnail!?!?!
Cedric TB I was bout to say that xD
Yes, and it initially scared the hell out of me haha
Does anyone recognize the face though, I do.
That's korosensei
Exactly
I bet the angels smiled because they knew that the universes will come back.
Shahmir Arshad not all angels smiled the one from u10 did not. Neither did vados
Shahmir Arshad no read my comment you will see the answer
CBR is moronic. Only 1 smiled, and it was in character for him to do so as he hates his GoD for being an embarrassing failure. Its not spelt out in the anime/manga, but was released from official sources that that's his character personality. The rest either tried to remain stoic when their universes destroyed, or were sad.
Sure. They may have been in on the desired outcome for the winner to wish back everyone. But that was in the fighters hands. If the winner chose to wish for something else, no one would have been wished back. So they didn't "know the universes will come back". No one did.
Well U10's angel was sad
The dude who smiled had a prick for a kaio shin, pretty sure that's all it was. Relief to be rid of him.
Only one of the angels smiled. One of them was visibly upset too.
Exactly
Ikr I was is this man good? He needs to rewatch top
I love how GT goes back to exploring Saiyan lore. I love Baby's back story being a Tuffle which was a rival race to the Saiyans on Planet Vegeta. Also bringing back the Oozaru transformation and how SSJ4 just looked like a monkey king which is what Goku is based off of.
The concept in the Shadow Dragons saga that the dragon balls build up negative energy every time you use them meaning you can't abuse their power is really nice because they do abuse them in Z and Super.
I loved GT, never understood all the hate it got.
Gt is good but not as good as dbz and dbs in IMO
Right. I know people bitch about it, but, although it was a weird one, it was still a fitting end to the series - as an actual ending.
The Shadow Dragon arc and the Baby arc were absolute gold. But all of the other arcs were really bad
@@shaybarratt9682 Gt is far better than Super. I can't understand who can anyone like super. Is the worst anime i've ever watched.
i love how he says "it would have changed everything" like 37 times
@Neko Koshaichi he said that there hair color would have changed everything like no it wouldn’t
Even in the title
@Neko Koshaichi idk why your getting so heated like calm the fuck down
@@xdthreatz6729 language
I mean, the video is literally tilted that, what else was expected lol
honestly, like it or not. Toriyama needs those editors. Frieza's transformations, the androids and cell, etc etc etc. All iconic and dragon ball would've been worse without them.
The frieza forms were not made because of the editor
Still wish it would have just ended with the Cell saga though. That would have been such a highnote to end on rather than keep going and in my opinion slowly ruin what was otherwise a really good show.
Let's also give credit to Toriyama as he could work with his editors. Not everyone could have their ideas scratched and just remake it as good as he did. It's not like the editors told him how to do everything after scratching his originals.
A lot of the things people liked about DBZ were due to the editors intervention, like it or not, he needed them. As far as DBZ was concerned, the anime was only supposed to last as far as the Frieza saga which is why Toriyama spilled his guts on the table to make such amazing arcs (Saiyan > Namek > Frieza) this was all Toriyama and his original vision. After that he NEEDED help and he was around people that wanted nothing but success for the show. Broly is another example, he is one of the most loved non-canon (he's canon now but not at the time) Dragonball characters of all time but he wasn't created by Toriyama, it was an editor at Toei and since then, fans have wanted to see more of him. I mean Broly has 3 movies (4 now with the new Super movie) so it says a lot.
@jocaguz18 GT has good ideas but is just poorly written and suffers from lots of nonsense
Technically super can make gt cannon it being the destroyed universe
Nah GT is in an alternative universe
I was thinking if at the end of super a wish was made to erase all knowledge of god ki and gods past the Kai level from mortals because it being considered to dangerous then GT could still happen
There so many destroyed universes so and there can’t be atc sackedly the same sooo no
Deke Winchell or they just make a wish to go back in time... and then ends/begins original dragon ball
Naw gt should b canon just they went in a time machine to go back in time
I literally watched this till the end to find out about this menacing looking zeno ☹️
Disappointing
That's Koro sensei's face 100 percent
“Some old guy and some pale faced weirdo” 🤣 but seriously, I loved imperfect Cell. He was incredibly creepy, slinking around and sucking down all the unsuspecting humans through his tail.
maybe perfect cell is better.
"editor interference"
Is it really interference when the initial idea is kind of shitty? Sounds like people telling Toriyama to do better saved the series every time
I disagree, since I thought Cell was the worst part of the series.
Toriyama has probably had his ass saved so many times by his colleagues. It's been known that he forgot many of his own characters existences, and wanted to do the opposite of what fans wanted many times. Probably would have been not as cool of a series if it weren't for his whole team. FYI, Cell Saga was the best saga
@@TakumiJoyconBoyz Cell may have been a bad idea, but if there was no Cell, there would have been no Cell in DBZ:Abridged, which is the funniest stuff known to mankind, and Cell is closely followed by Frieza in the list of best characters in that series.
Yep. Doesn't matter how shitty the original idea is, it's still editor inference. The word "Interference" may have a bad connotation attached, but it needn't always a bad thing in reality...
actually, that made DBZ what it is today. Had it not been the constant plot twists in a saga and how the villains changed or evolved, all the major sagas would be much worse.
When Goku tells Zeno He doesn't want to participate in the TOP anymore.
*Zeno Face thumbnail* (thanks for the likes :))
What time?
It's the video thumbnail
What time stamp
^ bruh moment
@@raze9450 He's making a joke of the thumbnail. He's saying how mad he would be if he said that. Lol
Begining of video is vegeta trying to cook that scene always makes me laugh
Right😂😂
I had a cooking ad right before it
@@bullymaguire6722 I kid you not I saw you on another video.
@@grouchyydurrburger1813 lmao
@@grouchyydurrburger1813 I be everywhere😎😎
Honest to God, calling someone "semi-perfect" just simply makes no sense..
"Wait how can you be semi-perfect? You're either perfect or you're not me!"
U mean "imcomplete" right?
@@christophersantos4825 I get it
@@logancunningham4261 Shut it, Nappa!
@@christophersantos4825 im baaaaack
For the last one you could have gone with the fact that the ability to go super Saiyan went from a Saiyan reaching a certain power level to just a feeling in their back
Yeah…even worse than it being dubbed “going blonde”
Dragon Ball logic: The louder you shout the stronger you are
Dragon ball logic: you could get the hell beat out of your and even set on fire to hair will always be perfect
@Noah Schneider totally how it works
Facts
I was wondering if I was the only one who realized that's how it works
Oh !!!!you have to fight one on one ... besides fusion 😂 😂
@@freegasbrag 😂😂😂😂😂👍
I personally liked the ending of GT. The fact that the Dragon Balls had a penalty was great to see. In a series that seems to get more Gary Stu with every Arc, it was nice to see a penalty for it.
The Baby saga and what it added to the Saiyan lore was also great. GT is underrated man.
What’s GT?
@@Somerandompersonlikeyou dragon ball gt. Anime sequel to DBZ made in the 90s. Lot of people disliked it for various reasons...some of which still exist in DBS
It was best but underrated terriblely and never given a chance and also the true ending in our hearts
"Wouldn't change anything about it"
Me: "How about we give Jiren a personality and an actual reason to be OP?"
You should check out the manga, they did him some justice there. Same with Kayle. Apparently she is a badass.
He was fighting an extremely powerful enemy in his universe, he was not interested in fighting in the tournament, so he essentially was pouting
How bout reading the manga. They do that
Or stop cucking Vegeta?
Evolution + Training = Jiren.
Lack of a need to further himself when he’s top 10 strongest character, and there goes his need for a personality.
"Vegeta probaly was meant to be a one off villain"
Is it just me or is shadow the hedgehog EVEN more similar to vegeta now?
Wasnt one of them based off the other tho?
I feel like i read that somewhere but im not to sure
@@maxed1115 yes shadow the hedgehog was meant to be based off sonic but sega wanted to give sonic a gun so instead they kept shadow because he was so loved and as i said they wanted to give sonic a gun but ended up giving shadow a gun and his own game, plus both of them usually calls the main character different between the others
Ex. Vegeta calls goku kakarot
Shadow did call sonic faker for a while
Even as a kid Goku trying to talk Krilling out from killing Vegeta just seam strange.
That was a monster who killed everything on his path and Goku just says to Krillin "Just wait I will beat him next time"
Bro I don't care what people think about Dragon Ball GT I honestly Loved the series
Same, the only part I truly hated was Baby. Dragons were definitely a low point in the series but it wasn't awful.
SS4 was bad ass but I dont think the whole concept of the series wasnt used wisely... AT didnt have much role on it so of course it sucked,could be worse, it could have been the reason to why AT came back to contine the DB franchise (dragonball evolution)
So true
The idea of corrupted dragons if all fine and good, dragons are a symbol of power, it makes sense as a final boss type situation... What I hated about GT was making Goku a child again and not giving character developments to the remainder of the cast... Why would you devolve your main character when he has children and grandchildren.... He's already childish in Nature, that was far and wide too much of a stretch....
@@kleinosim-asu7428 I 100% agree, I read that the director wanted to give a old feel to GT, like what dragon ball gave
But saddly the concept isnt stronger enough
I struggle to say that the most iconic thing about DB is the fact that goku spent most of his life training and fighting endlessly to be able to change the color and style of his hair by screaming and flexing at varying degrees of intensity
I love everything Dragon Ball & to me personally, I loved Dragon Ball GT i just didn't like that Goku got turned into a little boy again.
gt was too preachy and crazy annoying.
I'll take episodes of screaming over "giru giru" any day.
i didnt like how they had vegeta on GT
@@bubbabailey6830 Family man Vegeta was the best Vegeta.
@@RobertSimmonsAirship exactly, Vegeta in Gt is way better than the stupid out of character Vegeta of Super.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
*Publishers:* I don't know, the androids are just a old man and a obese mime, try something more?
*Toriyama:* Ok, here you have two new, stronger androids, and they even have unlimited energy!
*Publisher:* Ok, ok, but still, they are just two teens from the looks of it, try something more?
*Toriyama:* (cursing under breath) ok, you want something "more"? here is Cell!
*Publisher:* Now that's more like it!
*Toriyama:* Oh that's not all! he will also absorb 17 and 18 to gain even two new forms!
*Publisher:* Ok that's enough, take it easy now.
*Toriyama:* Then he will even kill Goku!
*Publisher:* Seriously Toriyama its enough!
*Toriyama:* And after he dies he will return even stronger due to the saiyan biology in his cells. Kills Trunks and horribly mutilate Gohan who will be the only one strong enough to stop him!
*Publisher:* Toriyama plz stap!
His publishers sound like the biggest asshats.
'Dragonball sold 5 million?
I don't trust Toriyama to make good characters!'
'DBZ sold 4 million copies (with fewer volumes and less time)?
I still don't trust Toriyama!'
jefthereaper XD
@jocaguz18 It wouldn't even exist in the first place without him though.
@@natedavies954 mybe bur qonw have 16 17 18 and cell with has publishers dude and you think wish to bcoem storng is great is nto that wya so many are shitin on supermagna so mybe he dos nto need publishers
Since one of the Supreme Kais revealed time rings, I'd argue that GT is canon as an alternate future. The reason for this is the fact that new rings are formed whenever the timeline is changed. Each of those extra rings can be accounted for... except for one. Future Trunks' timeline is already its own alternate future to the current timeline, so that's 1. Then there's the timeline when Cell killed Future Trunks, so that's 2. The 4th was the one that was caused by Zamatu changing the timeline. But we don't actually know what that future would've been. So what was the 3rd ring? There are 2 possibilities. The first could be the movies. But the individual movies are their own universes functionally, with a few exceptions. The other possibility is that the 3rd ring belongs to the GT timeline. Despite GT not being that great, it did bring concepts that were good ideas more or less. The Shadow Dragons weren't a bad idea. But SSJ4 was a great idea in my opinion.
I have a fan theory that SSJ4 is actually the true Super Saiyan form. The original Super Saiyan mythos was that there was only one Saiyan previously to reach that state, and could only stay Super Saiyan while in the Ozaru form. So why is it that Super Saiyan is so easily accessible at this point if it's supposed to be so special? Because it's not the true Super Saiyan form. What are the requirements of SSJ4? The Ozaru form, which requires a tail. And Vegeta once said (or was it Raditz?) that a Saiyan's true power is from the tail. And something we have never seen was a Super Saiyan with a tail, not counting SSJ4. But I digress.
Finally someone said what everyone was thinking! You rock!!
Vegeta *correct japanese to english*: ITS OVER 8000
Memers: 9000 take it or leave it
@Nylthanyr IV ok i checked it online and you're right. I just heard he said 9000 in the sub.
Idk what was so bad about dragon ball GT it was pretty cool to me and i thoght the thumbnail was going to be in the video
For starters, some things stated in GT contradicts A LOT of Z lore in quite poor ways. Also, they make claims in the show that their new villains are supposedly stronger than Z's villains, then proceed to have them display unimpressive power just feels so poor.
Example, that General character with the silver transformation (can't remember his name), they say "He's stronger than Buu", but the way they kill him, can you imagine Buu dying to that attack? I can't. Think about what it took to kill Buu and compare it to how they killed that General character.
I'll leave it at that, but can list more reasons if you want. I did kind of like Omega Shenron though, even though beings spawned from earth's Dragon Balls being that strong doesn't make sense, if you recall that Piccolo Daimao once destroyed Shenron (another example right there).
That is the problem with cbr
supreme kid12 it’s non canon so people don’t care about it it’s underrated
@@BurnTilDeath pretty sure super contradicts a lot and does a lot of things that dont make sense, but for some reason people still think thats better than gt
like bullets are supposed to hurt them all of a sudden when they can survive planet destroying punches, one of the first things that happened to goku in the series was getting shot at his weakest point as a child - didnt hurt him...
at least gt doesnt make lazy transformations
bu N yes bullets can kill goku and others. Did you not know this? As long as their guard are up they can’t get hit
"I can't imagine why the two (Raditz and Nappa) would fight each other."
They are Saiyans; superhumans with a gnack for wanting to prove their strength.
Nuff said.
Says something random “COULD HAVE CHANGED EVERYTHING”
The good and bad of GT:
Super Saiyan 4: Good
I don't think the form should be classified as a super saiyan (much less implied to be the next step after 3), but the design itself is really cool and I like the idea of it being an alternative transformation.
Kid Goku: Meh
It felt like shameless pandering to the fans of the original Dragon Ball fans, and it didn't actually contribute anything to the story. It would be one thing if making Goku weaker actually provided an opportunity for characters that had been left behind in the power creep, but every arc still falls on Goku every time.
Shadow Dragons: Good
The actual designs were a bit too gimmick-centric for my taste, but the concept was though provoking, unique, and actually something that could believably keep up with the power creep.
Black Star Dragon Balls: Bad
This was the catalyst for the whole series. A reason to hunt for dragon balls in the great unknown once again. However it just comes across like it was shoe-horned in. They also have no part in the story past the initial arc, so the only thing they contribute to the story is a throwback arc with wasted potential.
The Ending: Fantastic
I honestly can't think of a better way to end any of the series than GT's ending. It matches with Goku's personality, it's satisfying, and leaves the franchise open to new stories that don't rely on the old characters.
What about Baby arc?
@@obliviongigan6360 baby was probaboy the best villain
Who else found this video lying around in their recommendations
Wait..
If these where deleted then how did CBR get access to them?
*X-files theme plays*
EXACTLY
Because the internet. Nothing is ever lost, deleted, hidden or secret.
@Devil Kazuya how the fuck is super non canon?
He literally didn't even tell us anything that was deleted just speculated that they may have been. Then told us that movies like the dead zone where Goku and Piccolo fight garlic jr, when before the saiyan saga they were enemies and nobody knew about Gohan and during Goku was dead and Gohan changed his look and learned to fight they then all went into space so again no time for it to happen, weren't canon and he never realized it until they announced it a few years ago.
GT actually has Goku being serious when fighting his enemies. And super has him being an idiot while whole universes are being destroyed and he can't even be serious about protecting his own family from being wiped from existence.
@@AXEHoleJack that is an excellent observation. The stakes felt higher in GT when only the planet was at stake compared to universal destruction
Toriyama didn't intend to end Dragon Ball with Frieza. Its one of those claims former editors have made but has never been backed up by Toriyama himself.
It actually was and he admitted it on one of his visits in Poland
@@fynchan11 source?
Having Cooler as canon character would be super cool! He’s one of my favorite DBZ villains.
Out of every form of media Vegeta is by far the best character growth story ever. It's incredible to watch a series from beginning to end (it may take months) and reflect on the characters.
Right? I'm still amazed how much his character developed
Who feels like CBR is the best way to explain everything we love about dbz
Ugg. Dumb! The only Angel that smiled was U9's, and that was in character because he loathes his GoD for being a failure. U10's angel was even sad! You are seeing a sinister scrapped plot where there is none, based on a wild misunderstanding of the evidence.
Heck. Even if they all did smile as you incorrectly say, doing so could easily be explained with the final reveal that the Xenos/GP, and probably all the angels were hoping that the winner would wish to restore all the eliminated universes. Going in, U11 and U7 were the favorites, and both would be easily known to at least have good odds of chosing that wish based on the moral character of most of the fighters of those universes.
Just imagine if Frieza and 17 were in opposite positions during the finale though. Uh oh.
Its cbr binding cbr
very true
"15 Deleted Things From Dragon Ball That Change Everything"
Number 4: We think somethins is missing here... definently missing, can't confirm but for sure something missing!
WHAAT?
thought the same myself lol
In the thumbnail Zeno looks like koro-sensei when he’s mad
YES, I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT!
That thumbnail was just Koro-Sensei’s angry face.
One of the veins on Zeno in the thumbnail look like the “Got em” meme and I can’t stop thinking about it.
I gotta be honest, this channel really really needs to check its scources
You wanna make this video instead? Well then, go right ahead and do that so you can fix the errors this guy made.
Yeah slick, maybe I will
it really does
Ha ha.. the irony is palpable in that statement. "Scourses" ha ha ha ha
@@chaosmastermind I'm not trying to put you down either, I'm just surprised that I was the only one to comment about it
Excellent content!! Been a fan Dragon Ball since '94
Literally no one thought those movies were canon.
I did
Yeah. Though DBS Broly is canon anyway.
I thought history of Trunks was
Smalls Steelman the history of Trunks is cannon but is a tv special as opposed to a movie.
Exactly, otherwise they would’ve been mentioned in the anime.
You can see the original concept of Super Saiyan with the Lord Slug movie. There's a golden aura, like the final design, but his hair looks more like it's under the influence of Kaioken than the final version of Super Saiyan.
I fell in love with the mangas 20 years ago, and it was my gateway into Japanese culture. Everything from Goku and Bulma's meeting up to the end of Buu's Saga will always be what's canon to me.
Gine and Bardock needs to be brought back!
But they arent canon
@@torrencedavis1122 you didn't watched the new dragon ball super broly movie , do you?
Why tho? like seriously? what could they bring to the show? Another flashback with them sure
No...they should have made a movie call FUSION RETURNS or Resurrection C (cell )
@@torrencedavis1122 they are duh
Buu did not fall asleep he unlocked his supreme kai power boost
Not a power boost, he just let the "Great Lord of Lords" control him for a while.
Buu was passed put for the TOP...even mr satan says it. He doesn't unlock the kai form until after (when they went to new namek to fight moro)
@@briannewbury2678 yess he slept to fight and uncover his hidden power
Thats not why he slept. He fell asleep BEFORE the tournament, and got woken up by someone else to assist with moro on new namek. He didnt know that was going to be the case before he fell asleep....
@@briannewbury2678 he killed a supreme kai and gained his power and now he unlocked it to fight moro read manga
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Remember "Piccolo's a Saiyan just like Raditz?"
"Did we leave anything out?"
... Thumbnail?
13:45 well now I know why Radiz never made it back into the story. His hair took a lot of time to draw.
LOL
I don't get it
I swear that Photo of this video is scary (Zeno giving a Creepy Smile)
It was originally from an anime called assination classroom where koro sensei gets mad or angry
Is it just me or is this video using Dragon Ball Legends card art?
Yea they are
ordokkan
They are 👀
"this is the inverse of the topic of this video, but we are still going to do it". Thanks for the narrator to put his best efforts to read his dumb text with conviction. Your job is not easy.
Frieza: this is my final form. Golden form and perfected golden form: are we jokes to you
Hey I liked the Shadow Dragons🤨
Johan Stenfelt and I liked SSJ 4, who actually didn’t thought?
I always thought the Shadow Dragons were a great final villain! Imagine the shock of something the main characters have always relied upon throughout the series suddenly turning on them! What are these guys talking about? Plus SSJ4 was cool!
The main problem with almost all the villians in Both Z and GT is that people just don't even try to get their point since, duh, they are villians. Dr. Gero - a man who lost like everything due to Goku destroying RRA (add all androids + Super 17 saga here). Cell - well, actually he is not an true villian if you think of it. The guy (I mean, bug) just is aiming to perfect himself ( And it just DOES NOT REMIND GOKU FOR A BIT, right???). Baby can also be counted as a payback for Saiyan actions. So the only like real villians are Frieza, Babidi (not even Buu, he is just a puppet got out of control), and, sorry to mention it, Garlic Jr. In Super we have Frieza AGAIN and, ok, one of the best sagas - Future Saga with Zamasu being an AWESOME villian... And that kinda it.. And, finally, BSDB saga, an epic way to close the series by showing that everything in the world has a price and having main character sacrificing himself and finally resting in peace.
But instead we have Goku being selfish SOB throughout whole Super..
Please make Gohan, Piccolo and all the Z Fighters great again Toriyama!
A.J Thomas ok Trump lol
Gohan has always been my favorite character. His temperament as a kid to only fight when absolutely necessary was something I was always able to relate to.
@@raymondjackson1138 Teen gohan is the only Gohan I liked...Gohans was and is a loser for me now- At least he fights now a bit.
I've always wanted Krillin to take a bigger part in fights. He doesn't have.to best the big bads of the series, but I'm tired of seeing my dude get his ass kicked by the henchmen and lesser villains too.
*sees 3* “contestant hit of universe 11 has been eliminated”
Hit was Universe 6 not 11
Talking about the dub dude, they were on crack for that
Wow. So we have the editor to thank for all these generic final form designs
The best thing that came out of GT was The design of super sayan four Goku and The Design of Android 17!
I'd say the ssj4 transformation should be a saiyan hybrid base form where it fuses the oozaru and saiyan body together, to me I doesnt make sense to call it a super saiyan transformation with his hair black
"Dragonball Super has great animation"
No, you mean production value. It had a great budget.
There's a lot of up and downs and we wouldn't change a thing about it!
(Distant Master Yoshi Laughs)
That’s a lot of dragon ball legends characters art being shown 😂
I was super pissed when buu fell asleep again. He’s high key one of my favorites.
Yeah, that was shitty fanservice.
"Could you imagine in Saiyans were dragon-winged aliens"
You could not have said anything that would've made Saiyans cooler for my childhood-self.
Are you basically saying that Zeno was actually Venom
AHHH Plot twists
More like Kuro-Sensei
"The Tournament of Power is easily one of the best sagas in..."
Me: no its not
"Dragan Ball Super"
Me: oh.. yeah
Technically cooler is canon since he is mentioned in Super Broly by freeza
Kole Arrington that will probably be the next arc or movie
Hes not. Nothing is said about cooler by frieza in both japanese and english dub
michael vingerling you even watched the broly movie?
@@Redpops yes both dub and sub atleast 4 times and frieza never mentioned cooler hes in the special but not in the movie
Yeah I never heard that.
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ZENO LITERALLY SCARILY SMILES
me: *INTENSE LAUGHING*
I'm pretty sure That The Cowgirl version of "bulma" whith a revolver was actually launch
Zeno the thirsty watermelon has returned in the thumbnail
Akira's editors really like to shit on his ideas.
Not going to lie, the fat version of Frieza from the concept art, looks suspiciously similar to dodoria
"what if the Dragon Balls just shot out little dragons instead of granting wishes?"
That might have completely changed Divinegon (aka
Xenlon) in Dragon Quest 3. Sure, he wasn't a big part of Dragon Quest, but as an homage to Shenron, the ripple effect would have been felt in the DQ universe
5:36 Wow... I guess this is another connection between Shadow the Hedgehog and Vegeta; Shadow was planned to be a one-off character until the people became huge fans of his and resulted in Shadow being brought back in Sonic Heroes, much like how Vegeta was meant to be a one-off villain in Z and fans loved him to the point of him staying, too.
Goku transform to the original Super Saiyan is the best transformation in DBZ.
Jerrick Cole I liked Kaio-ken since using it could kill him.
15 Deleted scenes= Hey guys what if stuff was different!!!!
Can we just point something huge out in the Dragon Ball world. Back in the Frieza Saga Mr. Popo made a wish to Shenron "I wish for all those slain by Frieza and his men to be REVIVED." But wait that would mean Plant Vegeta is back with all the Saiyan's. So this whole time in super Vegeta is trying to go to plant Salad (I don't know how to spell it) but yet his plant should be back to life along with Goku's father. I mean has no one pointed this out. No matter how many theories I hear this is never one.
This is because the Earth dragon balls had a 1 year limit to them at the time. If you were dead for longer than a year it wouldn't work.
Popo didn't say anything about planets tho. They're all dead, again.
@@captainbladej52gaming tell that to frieza he come back years later
Toriyama didn't want to end it after the Frieza saga. He just wrote all of the arcs as he came up with new ideas, so he made them all as if they were going to end, not planned.
One of the best thumbnails I have seen. Baited me good
Useless Fact: If Raditz went super saiyan, he would actually be in super saiyan 3.
No his hair would still stick up being around as tall as he is. With super sayan 2 his hair would grow to be about I feet tall and still stick up. In super sayan 3 it would be like 3-4 times as long making ss3 useless for him because he would trip. Now for my final piece imagine it raddits with 18 ft long golden hair then weep for never being able to see such glory
@@connormcgehee9349 he wouldn't trip if he just stayed in the air.
Why'd you photoshop koro sensei's evil emotion onto zen oh's face :/
Cooler is canon king cold mentioned him in the official anime
do you know what episode of DBZ Kai he said it?
I'm telling u, Cooler and Frieza are finally going to work together as brothers in arms and fight against Goku as revenge. Platinum Cooler and Golden Frieza.
Kai isn't cannon it's a shortened version DBZ that leaves too much out and ends before the cell games
@@AlexanderGarcia-my2qd What are you talking about. Kai is canon.
@@neptune9647 The og DBZ is the main canon but Kai was a remast of sorts.
Who is this editor? He was on point pushing him to greatness!
Toriyama has said that the pressure from his editor during the Future Trunks/Cyborg/Android Saga and the Cell Saga. Forced Toriyama to never slack off or rest, but like the Saga's keep pushing the boundaries and story. Its why Toriyama considers the Future Trunks/Cyborg/Android Saga and the Cell Saga to be his best work. Since his editor forced Toriyama to summon his talent at will and create history.
I would have actually loved to have seen Gohan become the main character after the Cell saga. He could have had his own redemption arc, since it's pretty clear he ended up conceding to his Mother's demands and pursuing higher education instead of being a "martial artists bum". Gohan got lazy, he got weak and everyone knew it, but there could have been a moment where he really grew in to his own.
Sure, he had a moment of realization in Super that he DIDN'T have to follow in his Father's footsteps and he rejected the idea of focusing on different states of super saiyan, which frankly, added a bit more variation than all of the ridiculous forms of SSJ that were later introduced, like SSJB.
It's kind of boring seeing Goku always be the focus of the series. And while they did give older characters like Krillin and Master Roshi a bit of the lime light, it felt like lip service. We all know powerlevels are bullshit at this point, but it's still difficult to accept they had any chance at competing in the final arc of super.
TOP was made the way it was to be a purely fan service arc. And im happy for gohan, he always hated fighting and got what he wanted, settled down w videl and being a scholar. He’s a purely reactive character as he will only fight to protect his family and friends which means he would never be rubning round fighting the strongest people he can like goku. If gohan was main he wld have to either undergo a change to be more like his dad or dragon ball wld become a superhero series where a villain attacks earth, gohan stops him which wld get a bit repetitive. Point is gohan got what he wanted in life.
According to you, if he was then I'd stop watching. He was damn annoying in Boo saga and Saiyaman...WTF large major cringe
When u realized this video was released on the day of ur bday :3
one angel smiles, only one. You make it sound bigger then it was.
Yeah. And I'd say it's pretty obvious why he was happy. If I had to put up with Supreme Kai Roh and Sidra, I'd smile too if they got erased.
I thought they would mention the fact that at the end of the Dragon Ball Minus portion of Brolly, Bardock is shown attacking with his armor all damaged, even though there was no on-screen battle.
POV you know that seen at 21:39 then your like oh boy good you didn’t put sound on that
If Cooler was canon it'd be good. A way for Frieza to exit and be succeeded by him.
Imagine metal cooler in the tournament of power just *_multiplying_*
Asten Gaming golden cooler is stronger
Now Frieza can go get his brother and get him to beat up Goku. But the golden Frieza idea was stolen from Cooler.
Frieza and King Cold created new forms as they got stronger to hide their power. But Cooler thought that that was stupid and always stayed in his first form never creating weaker forms and eventually found that he could transform into a more powerful form.
he wouldve been cooler than frieza
@@unknownuserr670 cooler than frieza? he must be ice cold
CBR Can you make more dragon ball videos?
In the thumbnail you had zeno looking like koro sensei
Wow there's a lot I didn't know. And I'm a huge fan of this. This makes me happy ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
"The editor didn't like the design" x 1000
More like x9001
Me after looking at buff goku: is that you?
Goku now: yes, but that's an old photo