Not only in Dongguan, China, many countries are experiencing the same thing, for example in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles. The mall is quiet then becomes busy again, well that's the cycle and they will be active again, maybe with the new things.....
Even in the ghost malls in the states, i don't understand why they just don't turn the upper levels to cheap offices, coworking space, small makers/startup space, libraries, etc
cuz there are enough things you said existing... btw coworking space is not a good business model, almost all companies failed after the pandemic including WEWORK
@@LauBuk wework failed because they picked the most expensive spaces in the most prime area. These suburb malls are not prime because they are ghost malls. Leasing them out cheap for a couple years and bringing in work traffic will overall be a benefit to the other stores
If the 1st floor has filled with shops, I don't think it's fair to call it a 'Ghost Mall'. China's urbanization is just over 60%, below 70%. For developed countries the urbanization rate is usually 85% or more. So I believe one day someone will revive this mall when nearby area gets more development due to more residents moving into this region.
@@davidgmaloof More like sensationalist reporting on ghost cities and empty apartments But not going back to do a follow up Just like these days with the Chinese clampdown on their overheated real estate. The narrative is the country is about to collapse When the reality is 70% of the Chinese buying real estate in their cities were buying their 2nd and 3rd homes by 2018 The real issue being Property Developers were building too many higher end homes and not enough affordable homes for a few hundred million rural Chinese folks are still expected to migrate to the cities
Also as they said it was hard to get to this mall using public transit, the mall was built for higher end consumers in mind. In a city with a larger demographic of less well off migrant workers
Spent whole day to watch all your videos, Nico is so cute and emotional,and your husband is kind too,you both more and more like the real chinese.Showing the real life good or bad. I suddney find that I subscribe your bilibili channel before many years . your video is so good even the fans numeber is not equal to the quality of videos . I‘m living in chengdu for 10 years ，the video shows me the location that I didin't ever been to.Hope you have a good day in china，moved me a lot，It’s really unforgettable happy time.
YouPoMian (油泼面）, hand-pulled noodles topped with sizzling oil together with ground chili pepper and chopped up green onions are veey famous in northern China where wheat is grown, as opposed to southern China rice is grown.
Whatever happens, there's a reason. Just like any country that developed ahead of China, as China develops, markets change and businesses have to adjust to the changing demands of the customers they serve.
Business comes with risks. It's normal all over the world. You make a good decision & you fly to the moon. Make a poor decision & you get liquidated.😅 Nothing to see here, it's not specific to any particular country or people.
Totally agree with you that people should conduct some marketing research before building something huge in China. By the way, I like that bowl of belt noodles hmmm yummy!
China is going through some painful transmission. Again, China is huge. It may take a while to fix everything. However, it is just matter of time to solve those problems because they are CHINESE.
As a Chinese, be fair we really have ghost malls, but some are successful renovate after years and reborn and some forever ending, but the media only report the ended one.
Maybe they could convert some to apartments with fancy decor like having huge unusual windows and doors. Maybe convert some to studios. If the guy still has the money build a rail system to the big transportation hub.
location, location, location. China is too convenient compared to 10 years ago, and malls (esp big malls) are dieing worldwide. I think China is doing very good keeping malls alive but still some have to be gone in competition.
Real life is full of changes and nuances. A certain side and moment may be good for a jaw dropping headline, but the complete story may not draw attention or serve the purpose. You provided a nuanced angle into things!
The mall may not be "ghost" as it used to be BUT you can plainly see the foot traffic is very nil. You can hardly see people in the mall's open spaces such as near entrances or atriums.
Malls all over the U.S. are closing down in massive numbers. Malls are so yesterday. Actually most of the commercial buildings are either vacant as well. It’s a huge mess in the U.S. real estate market
Malls in the US are closing because people do their shopping by internet stores. Chinese people are simply impoverished. Also, people do their work at home by computers and why there are a lot of office space in the US.
As a fellow native of north-east England, I knew the Metroland reference was coming when the theme park came on, for a certain generation here it's the greatest theme park of all time! Bring back Metroland! 😁
@@gaosuper2781 But living above a mall is a unique opportunity. It would be greatly convenient for residents to take the elevator down to the street level to shop, eat, or just walk around the large grounds.
if I were management, I would just convert some of the retail space to cheap offices and shared spaces. as well as target most specialty shop. this is what some of the less successful shopping center in Singapore did.
It seems I’ve been there before, watched Avatar 1 iMax movie…coz there was no iMax theater in Shenzhen at that time😂😂😂 There were lots of people from Guangzhou and Shenzhen just for their 1st iMax movie.
Interesting video it is! Maybe there is no waste if they can turn it to an office or coworking spaces, apartment blocks, or even a studio. Although this will depend on their location as well. Not familiar with Dongguan but I think every city in China has it's own strengths and specialties. Maybe they can consider it as part of their marketing plan. Thanks again for this video, Jack and Nico! ❤
It wat just a wrong business plan. Dongguan is hub for manufacturing which used to attract a lot of non-local migrant workers. Since those low value added manufacturing are moving from China to human cost cheaper Southeast Asia. The population of Dongguan is shrinking. How could you expect to run a huge shopping mall successfully if the city's population is shrinking?
They have also artificial island, inside the Philippines EEZ which they made their military bases and now they are expanding their territory stealing territory from other country.
I think the mixue workers need to be evaluated... The buyer who said xie xie and the worker just 'who cares ... I'm busy". Mixue is open shop also in Indonesia where I'm living
✨It will come back strong, unlike the Billion-Dollar mall in New York City that recently had to close after only ten years because of massive crime. Fulton Center, New York's most expensive mall.....😥 By the way, you two look great. 🙂
What do you expect from New York, a city run by very soft-on-crime politicians. Fortunately, most the US is not like NYC and the malls are doing fine. I'm guessing actually arresting shoplifters has something to do with that.
Looks pretty empty to me. But malls are an outdated commercial concept anyway, they're failing globally. It would be great to see real estate like these repurposed and utilized.
Malls are still very popular in China but mainly for food and to hang I don't think many people shop for items in them as it is so convenient to buy online. I really hope they can do something with the space.
Ask the management to move to the Philippines cause their malls are always crowded and no one is buying anything, then just want a free air-conditioned environment! 😂😂😂
These are just the tip of the iceberg of China’s debt. High-speed railways, highways, subways, and new airports are all suffering losses, and the real estate industry has collapsed completely!
That was intended , it was the governments interest to collapse their own real estate industry so they can control the free flow real estate markets, places like HK or even Shenzhen and Shanghai have absurd property prices and china aims for prosperity and equality for everyone, hence if they have control of the “quicksand” it will make the real estate and housing under their control
not only malls, street shops also ghosting all over in china today! No money to spend also most doing online now. China is in serious deflation, very low consumption, unwilling to spend due to lost confidence & very bad economy condition, no jobs, no income, property crash, debt surge & bankrupt everywhere! RMB going to crash soon!
@@lsg9264 so when was the last time you had a passport? 🙃 The propaganda machine you call mainstream media is not in the business of sharing facts. It's always pushing a narrative
The world needs people like you who speak out for justice. thank you my friend. Your righteous speech will be respected by everyone.
Yeah because they're not puppets....right....lol
@@dmonahan6771 If they are puppets, they aren't very good at it. Based on their video, the mall is a dump.
Not only in Dongguan, China, many countries are experiencing the same thing, for example in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles. The mall is quiet then becomes busy again, well that's the cycle and they will be active again, maybe with the new things.....
Even in the ghost malls in the states, i don't understand why they just don't turn the upper levels to cheap offices, coworking space, small makers/startup space, libraries, etc
Zoning laws take some time to catch up with the changing market conditions.
anytime
cuz there are enough things you said existing... btw coworking space is not a good business model, almost all companies failed after the pandemic including WEWORK
@@LauBuk wework failed because they picked the most expensive spaces in the most prime area. These suburb malls are not prime because they are ghost malls. Leasing them out cheap for a couple years and bringing in work traffic will overall be a benefit to the other stores
Because it's nowhere near accessible public transport like Nico and Jack found out.
If the 1st floor has filled with shops, I don't think it's fair to call it a 'Ghost Mall'.
China's urbanization is just over 60%, below 70%. For developed countries the urbanization rate is usually 85% or more. So I believe one day someone will revive this mall when nearby area gets more development due to more residents moving into this region.
Absolutely not a ghost mall. A DYING mall at worst.
Can’t believe you guys visited Dongguan😂 It’s that means I can dream you guys will visit my hometown 虎門 someday?
Jack's history corner anyone? 😂
Dream?😂
Great sharing.
It's embarrassing that a notable news agency was proven wrong in its reports. In other words, it lacks credibility.
Embarassing? Nowadays western media don't even feel ashamed!
What are you saying? That the mall wasn't empty? The seems to be doing somewhat better now, but you have to admit, it's a dump.
@@davidgmaloof
More like sensationalist reporting on ghost cities and empty apartments
But not going back to do a follow up
Just like these days with the Chinese clampdown on their overheated real estate. The narrative is the country is about to collapse
When the reality is 70% of the Chinese buying real estate in their cities were buying their 2nd and 3rd homes by 2018
The real issue being Property Developers were building too many higher end homes and not enough affordable homes for a few hundred million rural Chinese folks are still expected to migrate to the cities
Also as they said it was hard to get to this mall using public transit, the mall was built for higher end consumers in mind.
In a city with a larger demographic of less well off migrant workers
@@chongdi6140embarrassment is not in their vocabulary
Thanks!
Thank you so much that is very kind of you, we really appreciate it!
amazing video as always!
Spent whole day to watch all your videos, Nico is so cute and emotional,and your husband is kind too,you both more and more like the real chinese.Showing the real life good or bad. I suddney find that I subscribe your bilibili channel before many years . your video is so good even the fans numeber is not equal to the quality of videos . I‘m living in chengdu for 10 years ，the video shows me the location that I didin't ever been to.Hope you have a good day in china，moved me a lot，It’s really unforgettable happy time.
YouPoMian (油泼面）, hand-pulled noodles topped with sizzling oil together with ground chili pepper and chopped up green onions are veey famous in northern China where wheat is grown, as opposed to southern China rice is grown.
Whatever happens, there's a reason. Just like any country that developed ahead of China, as China develops, markets change and businesses have to adjust to the changing demands of the customers they serve.
Business comes with risks. It's normal all over the world. You make a good decision & you fly to the moon. Make a poor decision & you get liquidated.😅
Nothing to see here, it's not specific to any particular country or people.
Very informative. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks a lot!
love the content!
another great video, thanks
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Most countries do have ghost mall.. even in my country, Malaysia. Overbuilt of malls.
Totally agree with you that people should conduct some marketing research before building something huge in China. By the way, I like that bowl of belt noodles hmmm yummy!
Omg I'm still dreaming of these!
China is going through some painful transmission. Again, China is huge. It may take a while to fix everything. However, it is just matter of time to solve those problems because they are CHINESE.
As a Chinese, be fair we really have ghost malls, but some are successful renovate after years and reborn and some forever ending, but the media only report the ended one.
I agree which is why we went to see it as I heard it was getting renovated I hope there is more to come!
Maybe they could convert some to apartments with fancy decor like having huge unusual windows and doors. Maybe convert some to studios. If the guy still has the money build a rail system to the big transportation hub.
I love Dongguan. I was there in 2019 and fell in love❤️
All this town needs is a miracle , keep up the hope 🙏.
Duhh...saya kagum begitu makmur nya tiongkok
location, location, location. China is too convenient compared to 10 years ago, and malls (esp big malls) are dieing worldwide. I think China is doing very good keeping malls alive but still some have to be gone in competition.
Oh dear 😅
Looking forward to the Wuhan’s noodles 🍜 🤤
Xoxo Sabrina 🇫🇷🇬🇧
Real life is full of changes and nuances. A certain side and moment may be good for a jaw dropping headline, but the complete story may not draw attention or serve the purpose. You provided a nuanced angle into things!
The mall may not be "ghost" as it used to be BUT you can plainly see the foot traffic is very nil. You can hardly see people in the mall's open spaces such as near entrances or atriums.
Malls all over the U.S. are closing down in massive numbers. Malls are so yesterday. Actually most of the commercial buildings are either vacant as well. It’s a huge mess in the U.S. real estate market
Malls in the US are closing because people do their shopping by internet stores. Chinese people are simply impoverished. Also, people do their work at home by computers and why there are a lot of office space in the US.
As a fellow native of north-east England, I knew the Metroland reference was coming when the theme park came on, for a certain generation here it's the greatest theme park of all time! Bring back Metroland! 😁
hahaha I was buzzing when I saw this theme park honestly I can't believe they ever shut it. Why even bother going to the Metro Center now?
Very cool
Turn the upper floors into residences. Offer low-mid to upper-end condos.
在中国太多了公寓了，没有太大竞争力
@@gaosuper2781 But living above a mall is a unique opportunity. It would be greatly convenient for residents to take the elevator down to the street level to shop, eat, or just walk around the large grounds.
if I were management, I would just convert some of the retail space to cheap offices and shared spaces. as well as target most specialty shop. this is what some of the less successful shopping center in Singapore did.
Yeah I think office space would be a great idea!
It seems I’ve been there before, watched Avatar 1 iMax movie…coz there was no iMax theater in Shenzhen at that time😂😂😂 There were lots of people from Guangzhou and Shenzhen just for their 1st iMax movie.
Wow! When was that? That is a long trip for an iMax movie haha
@@Nicofilms yes, such a long time age! There were no online movie tickets, even no smartphone, I bought tickets via cellphone.
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Interesting video it is! Maybe there is no waste if they can turn it to an office or coworking spaces, apartment blocks, or even a studio. Although this will depend on their location as well. Not familiar with Dongguan but I think every city in China has it's own strengths and specialties. Maybe they can consider it as part of their marketing plan. Thanks again for this video, Jack and Nico! ❤
You guys are funny - great video
Glad you enjoyed
Prince hotel in Dongguan is the biggest 5 star ghost hotel
I will have to check it out!
The noodle is great ❤
The noodles were AMAZING!
It's a pity such a big building had to become abandoned.
It wat just a wrong business plan. Dongguan is hub for manufacturing which used to attract a lot of non-local migrant workers. Since those low value added manufacturing are moving from China to human cost cheaper Southeast Asia. The population of Dongguan is shrinking. How could you expect to run a huge shopping mall successfully if the city's population is shrinking?
San Fran?????
This two must be super special guests, the the authority remove everyone from the mall so they are not distracted while making the video 😅😅
04:31 it's actually too big and I can't put it in my mouth, 4:45 Nico was praising how thick it was lol hahaha
🙃
it happens all the time in many countries.
Dude this seems like a perfect Liminal space game scenes😂
MIXI tea, yeah!
They need to fill spaces with more entertainment and offices, work spaces
OMG what a busy mall they can barely walk around 😭😭
They have also artificial island, inside the Philippines EEZ which they made their military bases and now they are expanding their territory stealing territory from other country.
What language are you speaking?
I think the mixue workers need to be evaluated... The buyer who said xie xie and the worker just 'who cares ... I'm busy". Mixue is open shop also in Indonesia where I'm living
✨It will come back strong, unlike the Billion-Dollar mall in New York City that recently had to close after only ten years because of massive crime. Fulton Center, New York's most expensive mall.....😥 By the way, you two look great. 🙂
What do you expect from New York, a city run by very soft-on-crime politicians. Fortunately, most the US is not like NYC and the malls are doing fine. I'm guessing actually arresting shoplifters has something to do with that.
Feel sorry for the owner😢.
光这块地皮的市值 估计现在都不止10亿了！！
If that is so, then this mall's days are numbered.
😱
Love you guys so much!! Please keep updating 🥲
We'll be back soon, just planning our next trip!
表面上是错误的投资，实际上地价涨了十倍。
🎉🎉
😂我家里人说是因为公交车改线路了所以交通不太方便就冷清了很多，很多地方都是因为交通不便才逐渐没落的
不是主要原因吧？如果經濟依然蓬勃，又有什麼理由讓交通不方便呢？
@@zhixuanchen6914 这就要看市政怎么规划了，像我家这边老火车站没搬迁之前周边也是很热闹，很多商场之类的，现在车站搬迁了就几乎跟视频里的这个那样，几乎商店都关门了，而且因为客流量少开店的基本上都撑不了几个月就倒闭了
@@zhixuanchen6914 这就要看市政怎么规划了，像我家这边老火车站没搬迁之前周边也是很热闹，很多商场之类的，现在车站搬迁了就几乎跟视频里的这个那样，几乎商店都关门了，而且因为客流量少开店的基本上都撑不了几个月就倒闭了
Perhaps migrant workers don't have the financial means to fully enjoy this park.
❤❤❤❤❤❤
😀🙏😀
Looks pretty empty to me. But malls are an outdated commercial concept anyway, they're failing globally. It would be great to see real estate like these repurposed and utilized.
Malls are still very popular in China but mainly for food and to hang I don't think many people shop for items in them as it is so convenient to buy online. I really hope they can do something with the space.
So "peang a leang" that is a Cantonese word. 😅
China always want to be the biggest of everything, please don't try to take this title away!
中文可以哦，可以跟服务员沟通了
Hi ❤️🇨🇳🦾😇🌹👋
Ask the management to move to the Philippines cause their malls are always crowded and no one is buying anything, then just want a free air-conditioned environment! 😂😂😂
❤️🩹🇨🇳💐
Is this a gotha video? The whole place looks abandoned, iv seen more people in my local pound land shop.
It sounds like this video conversation had been choreographed like Hollywood did.
Whale is a sign for rich person
Ooh interesting! I didn't know that.
@@Nicofilms in crypto, whale mean rich person
当初的规划还是好的，不过不小心就成了烂尾，看未来有没有机会复新了
What are you talking about? It's finished, the construction was finished 20 years ago.
Big mistake bad location bad timing bad investment no money in dongguan to support this mall.
支持你们俩！！！！！油泼面，凉皮就应该夏天吃，爽！！！！再加点醋！！！啊呀！！
This is not the biggest shopping mall in the World
China does have the world biggest shopping mall but not this one
最大的单体建筑在成都，巨大的购物中心，吃喝玩乐俱全，非常棒❤🎉❤
It was at the time, which is what we say in the video. The title refers to the fact that it is the biggest 'ghost mall' meaning that it is empty.
Yup! We have also done a video on this.
@@Nicofilms Oh! Sorry for the misunderstanding! Hope you guys enjoy every moment in your journey☺️
很多外国博主拍摄中国题材视频的角度和思路很窄的。不知道他们是为了迎合国外观众的固化思维，还是为了拿华人观众的流量。也或许他们真的就是没什么见识吧🤣，这样也挺好。其实中国有很多新奇的事物是国外没有的，很多新兴的产业、新的赛道，工业，农业，科技，服务业、军事，民生领域都有。更不用说文化方面了。看多了觉得他们真的没啥文化🤭。
@@Pigeonbm 说了又怎么样？
@@Pigeonbm 来中国的部分外国人有必要说中国的摄像头多吗？你哪儿来的那么多“有必要吗”。真这么喜欢“反思”，请别双标，别对老外宽容，对华人苛刻就好。
@@Pigeonbm
正是，我觉得小红书也没什么文化，所以我不用小红书。
起因是我评论了几句，你留言说“有必要吗”。
有没有必要是我说了算，不是你说了算。这叫“言论自由”。
你可以不同意我说的内容，你也可以随便说，但不能质疑我说的必要性。这叫“民主”。
你看我不双标吧。
@@Pigeonbm 我说了什么自己很清楚，你看不看得懂我就不知道了。我说小红书没文化你破防了？😁，下雨打孩子，闲着是闲着，就喷你几句。话不投机，那就说再也不见，别跟日本人似的说话那么虚伪，还什么再见😂。互联网这么广阔，一别两宽，各生欢喜吧。
最逝这几年，中国经济发展的速度可能会降下来一点
Not a ghost mall but an empty mall😅
相当客观
你们竟然来了东莞，不知道是否在东莞试一下东莞烧鹅
Gator oill
Not in the Philippines I don’t know where people are coming
Too much face time.
GHOST MALL....I thought that you were so brave to do an episode for "Li Wan Plaza 荔湾尸场" in Guangzhou 😱😱😱😱
荔湾尸场哈哈哈，著名景点
These are just the tip of the iceberg of China’s debt. High-speed railways, highways, subways, and new airports are all suffering losses, and the real estate industry has collapsed completely!
That was intended , it was the governments interest to collapse their own real estate industry so they can control the free flow real estate markets, places like HK or even Shenzhen and Shanghai have absurd property prices and china aims for prosperity and equality for everyone, hence if they have control of the “quicksand” it will make the real estate and housing under their control
not only malls, street shops also ghosting all over in china today! No money to spend also most doing online now. China is in serious deflation, very low consumption, unwilling to spend due to lost confidence & very bad economy condition, no jobs, no income, property crash, debt surge & bankrupt everywhere! RMB going to crash soon!
@ Isg9264,
More propaganda please 😂
@@VashtheStampede007 no need, truth & fact are there!
@@lsg9264 so when was the last time you had a passport? 🙃
The propaganda machine you call mainstream media is not in the business of sharing facts. It's always pushing a narrative
@@VashtheStampede007he based his source from Peter Zeihan 😅let them live in denial, the more they do the better it's contribute to the world.
Another sour grape found😉
🧔🧝,lovely🏞️. Tq