Vintage 1961 Dart "Road Runner" Go Kart With West Bend 820 Restoration Phase 3

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
  • This is the first start up of our Dart Kart after removing the clone engine. The frame has been stripped and repainted. For power I built a stock West Bend 820 that runs on gas. The header is an old Azusa megaphone that we got with the kart when it was given to us back in the mid 1960's. I've added a reproduction cap to quiet it down a little. The clutch is a Noram centrifugal clutch made for US820 racing. The gearing is 10 68 which will give us a top speed around 52mph. I've added a reproduction Chilton seat back tank and Go Power Type 2 wheels. We still have the Go Power Type 1 wheels but they need a lot of work to restore and that is a project for the future. Hope you enjoy the video, I'll add a couple of clips of us racing it at the Barnesville GA Vintage Karting Association event. For more vintage karting check out www.vkavintagekarting.com or foxkart61 on youtube.

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  • @randallconaway9754
    @randallconaway9754 5 місяців тому

    Had one of those when I was 17 back in the early 70s.It had an 8 1/2 west bend and we bored it out to a 10+ and it would fly.

  • @Stillstoned1
    @Stillstoned1 7 років тому +1

    These things are so cool. Makes me want to be young again.

  • @nampadave
    @nampadave 12 років тому +1

    we ran a West Bend back in the early sixties...had aluminum cylinder head and dual carbs. - ran methanol for fuel

  • @brandonroark2640
    @brandonroark2640 2 роки тому +1

    I got one of them motors from a junkyard I did some work on it an it runs good the things people throw away It was a track kit saw power bee 820 haha I love it

    • @doncarlson8391
      @doncarlson8391 2 роки тому

      Great to hear about your 820. I'm glad you saved it from the scrap yard. Thanks for watching, sorry if UA-cam made you watch commercials, my videos aren't monetize but they still make money off of them.

  • @ozzstars_cars
    @ozzstars_cars 6 років тому +3

    At the 1:30 mark.......what a feeling!

  • @shawnramsey2791
    @shawnramsey2791 6 років тому +6

    Wish you had made a lot of videos on this kart , love the vintage kart videos

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому +4

    Thanks for sharing that memory. I'd love to drive a twin with direct drive. My son in the video has a similar experience. We were at a race and when I went to crank him with the starter, we found out the clutch springs had broke and it was basically direct drive. Some old timers grabbed the rear bumper, hoisted him in the air and said, "Crank him!" We go him cranked, told him to hit the gas and not to let off. We dropped him and he left the pits burning rubber. I couldn't stop laughing.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому +1

    @modelleg When I first watched this video after it struck me how we parents sometimes miss the best part, our kids reactions. I was so intent on the engine that I missed his reaction. Lucky for me I've got the video and have gotten to see him race the kart. Thanks for your comment and for checking us out.

  • @jcb8505
    @jcb8505 10 років тому +3

    When they made things back in the day they made em!

  • @apprazer
    @apprazer 2 роки тому

    Beautiful cart restore!

  • @skipchernoff2487
    @skipchernoff2487 2 роки тому

    Nice job .I restored a Dart Super K with PP mill!

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому +3

    @OreiZlatan Thanks! I'm building another engine for it now. Check back in a month or two for an update.

  • @kutsbothways
    @kutsbothways 5 місяців тому

    Beauty.Raced these as a chiId; Iate 50's to earIy 60's.WouId Iove to have one for the nostalgic reasons. And the fIat out fun they are.Editing as I just saw the BarnesviIIe, Georgia address. I actually raced down there, dirt if I remember but that could have been Jencinsburg (sic), raced there, aIso DuIuth and ChambIee way Iong time ago.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому +1

    @larry20021 thanks for watching. Sounds like you had some kart fun too, back in the day.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому +1

    @jasonhallman1 Thanks for your comment. I hope you do too! Make sure you post some videos of your build and introduce yourself when we meet at and event. BTW one suggestion if your going to build a vintage racing kart, start saving your money early, nothing on these things is cheep! ;-)

  • @dicktrickle4197
    @dicktrickle4197 3 роки тому

    Beautiful !

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому

    @loh1110 I couldn't agree more. I'm lucky we were shooting the video or I'd have never known. His expression is the reward that all dads look forward to. Thanks for watching and the comment.

  • @davestout844
    @davestout844 11 років тому +2

    She's a beauty.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому

    @Vinpark10 I wish all dads would or could spend quality time with their kids. At times its up to us to make our wishes come true. We got the kart when I was 6. My dad lent us money for parts and gave us a 2hp Briggs but as I remember it, that was it. It was up to me to get it going. I was 49 before I really got to race it. Don't give up on your dreams, study hard in school and work for them. You'll have a greater sense of accomplishment. Don't forget how you feel when you have kids.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  13 років тому +1

    @rhellman I'm pretty sure they were raced with just about every engine that was available at the time. I think a lot had Power Products from the factory but there were plenty of West Bend, Mac and other brands put on them.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому +1

    @ciber101010101 Check out my other videos where we're not only riding it, we're racing it! Thanks for watching. Check back again, I'm going to make some slow motion videos of it.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  13 років тому

    It's actually a gauge for measuring cylinder head temperature (CHT)and the engine speed (RPM) made by Digatron. This one is an older model, more in line with what the kart would have had on it back in the day. I got it off of ebay but you can google Digatron and find lots of places to buy them.

  • @robspear03
    @robspear03 5 років тому

    Kid: "Dad, can i drive the go kart!"
    Dad:"Fuck off."

  • @DRPepper608
    @DRPepper608 11 років тому

    you did a great job it looks better than a brand new one from the 60s

  • @davemitchell1323
    @davemitchell1323 3 роки тому +1

    nice .

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому

    @snmasterss A stock engine will run well on 89 octane gasoline. My racing 820s have higher compression and turn higher rpms so I run 100 octane. The drawback to running gasoline is the engines run hotter. Many of the racing 820s run on methanol which has an octane rating of about 115. The engine will consume about twice as much methanol and methanol has the benefit of making the engine run cooler but lubrication can be a little more tricky to get right.

  • @modelleg
    @modelleg 12 років тому

    Kid's totally into it.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому

    @larry20021 they still start them this way at vintage races. I also have seen guys use an old chainsaw that's had the bar removed and a v-belt clutch installed start vintage karts much like you described.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому

    @lyndellbarnes United States Motor Power Inc sells parts for the industrial and Kart 820s. The engine hasn't changed a lot since it was introduced in 1961 so they will probably have what you need, assuming you have an 820. You can google them and on the bottom of the 820 page they have parts lists.

  • @stopglobalswarming
    @stopglobalswarming 13 років тому

    Wow, that's great.

  • @jcb8505
    @jcb8505 10 років тому

    Amazing job love it!

    • @snaproll94e
      @snaproll94e  10 років тому

      Thanks!!!!!!!!

    • @jcb8505
      @jcb8505 10 років тому

      No prob!

    • @jcb8505
      @jcb8505 10 років тому

      Awesome kart, i had a dart kart when i was little, should have held on to it....damn!

  • @Vinpark10
    @Vinpark10 12 років тому +1

    @snaproll94e ok thanks

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  13 років тому

    @mechanicman98 you can buy a reproduction seat from Robron. Google them and you should find them. You can also search for vintage karting association or rear engine karts and find these web sites and a link to Robron. Foxkart61 on youtube may have a link too. Good luck!

  • @eangdaniec8515
    @eangdaniec8515 9 років тому +1

    Do you know where i could find an old go kart mount, similar to a swing mount? I have a 64 bug sprint.

    • @snaproll94e
      @snaproll94e  9 років тому +1

      The only sources I know of are ebay or the Vintage Karting Association web site vkakarting.com Check the for sale sections at the top of the page and there is a listing of members that manufacturer reproduction parts. Good luck!

    • @eangdaniec8515
      @eangdaniec8515 9 років тому

      snaproll94e I check even further. Thank you

    • @eangdaniec8515
      @eangdaniec8515 9 років тому

      snaproll94e I went to the site, but what do you mean by members? I clicked on the "for sale" and clicked members.

    • @snaproll94e
      @snaproll94e  9 років тому +1

      Click on the parts/wanted tab at the top of the page and at the bottom of the drop down list is members with businesses that may be able to help you. Good luck and share a video!

    • @eangdaniec8515
      @eangdaniec8515 9 років тому

      snaproll94e Thank you!

  • @glenngray5285
    @glenngray5285 8 років тому

    I raced a Rupp Chaparall in 1970 with McCullough 91A and I've gotta tell you I never saw a Westbend win a race, but perhaps just because a good ninety something percent of people in my area ran McCulloughs. If you're unsucessfull racing with it perhaps you could just run a class that allows modified engines. I envy you though. wish I had never sold my kart and got Krupp Roadster mini bike what a piece of crap. Mom saw friend nearly burned to death in a race though and nagged me to death.

  • @anthonymarin584
    @anthonymarin584 8 років тому

    it sounded like a 2 stroke weed eater but its still cool

  • @snmasterss
    @snmasterss 12 років тому

    Por favor me diga, que tipo de bomba de combustível usou?

  • @Leemars123
    @Leemars123 11 років тому

    did you build it your selfs? nice seat.

  • @Vinpark10
    @Vinpark10 12 років тому

    i wish my dad would do this with me

  • @TheHaCkEr899
    @TheHaCkEr899 11 років тому

    whats that starter thing you have to start is without the recoil?

  • @OGKILLa9365
    @OGKILLa9365 13 років тому

    nice were did u by the sprdommiter

  • @stellajaeger8425
    @stellajaeger8425 8 років тому +1

    is that moto Rupp ? I dont think so !!

  • @jbetz78
    @jbetz78 11 років тому

    Where can I find a seat like that? Thank you ! Sweet kart!

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  12 років тому

    @larry20021 check out foxkart61's videos and google VKA or vintage karting association. They race these vintage karts all around the country. If there's an event near you, you should go by and check it out. It's free and there's lots of vintage guys there that raced these things back in the day.

  • @hugochavez4150
    @hugochavez4150 8 років тому

    i cant get my brake drum off.to replace the brake pads.any ideas?and where to buy the brake pads?

    • @snaproll94e
      @snaproll94e  7 років тому

      If you have a old school drum brake like the one on my kart, there is a collar that pinches down on the axle. (FYI, many of the old sprocket flanges are made just like this drum flange and have the same bolt pattern to mount a sprocket or drum on the flange.) To separate the pinch collar from the drum, there will be either 3 or 4 thru bolts clamping the collar to the drum, loosen or remove them. The collar should have 2 extra holes that are threaded. You will need screws that fit these holes with plenty of threads that are the same length. usually they are the same thread as the pinch bolts but I can't guarantee that. Screw them into the collar until they stop turning, they should be contacting the bottom of the pocket and the amount of screw sicking out of the collar should be about the same. Make sure you can see some threads sticking out of the collar! Alternate turning each screw 1/4 turn at a time and it should "jack" the collar out of the drum. Some of the new drums just have set screws that dig into the axle. Once you remove the set screws you do what ever it takes to slide it off. Burrs in the axle from the set screws or rust can make the flange "frozen" to the axle. I'd suggest you remove all of the rust on at least one side of the axle with sandpaper so you'll be able to slip the flange off once you free it from the axle. If you need help understanding/identifying the different types of flanges and how to remove them, I can try and post a video. Good luck, these can be a pain, especially if their corroded.

    • @hugochavez4150
      @hugochavez4150 7 років тому

      Ive been dping a lil research yes you are correct.my brake drum set sre bendix.pretty heavy duty brake system.nice in quality.i see what you are talking about.i do see them threaded holes.thank you i appreciate your help.but if you can do a video that will be great.

    • @snaproll94e
      @snaproll94e  7 років тому

      Hi Hugo, if you see the threaded holes, you've got it licked. After the collar comes out, you can push the tip of a flat blade screwdriver into the slot and spread it a LITTLE so it will slide off of the axle easier. Don't spread it much, these collars are prone to snapping in half. Many guys run broken collars but it's best not to break it. They are also prone to breaking when you tighten the clamping screws/nuts. Make sure you go around and around and tighten each nut a little bit at a time so you pull the collar down evenly. This way you won't break it.

  • @snaproll94e
    @snaproll94e  13 років тому

    @sExYm0nStEr89 not, it's not for sale.

  • @colinthornton2296
    @colinthornton2296 8 років тому

    I'll buy it for 400$