The best budget subwoofer amp on Amazon (2024)
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I want you to test an atg 1600 watt.. audio to go equipment.. it was like 80 bucks and it sounds good when using two subs... I would love to know the capabilities of what it's putting out but of course ...you have the dyno bro... I'm really curious what that amp puts out for wattage... it seems to be pretty aggressive in the car... and I've had a lot of amps
I like that you tested the 700. Others have tested the 1k, 1500,&2k. I bought the 1000 and it IS Impressive. ( I got lucky and had a coupon for $108!) PhoenixGold will always have a special place in car audio. The cyclone was wild with only 250-300, class a/b RMS on them.
My brother had an amazing Phoenix Gold system back in the day. Four XS2500's powering 4 PG X-Max 12's in a custom enclosure and 2 more XS2500's for mids and highs. He spent a good $10k on the system. In a 95 Thunderbird not setup for spl it hit 149.9 in the only competition he ever took it too.
The prices recently went up on this amp lineup again, still worth the price.
I have a Few MT1500s and the birthsheet say around 1560. The efficiency is what I really like. Cheap power is easy to find but usually in the %50-60 at 1 ohm.
I have the Stinger MT2000.1 , and it's an absolute beast!
That’s good to know, was thinking of purchasing that model for a budget build in my Jeep.
@@jRomero713get it. Absolutely worth it. I have other jl amps and this one can keep up
About to build my truck hideaway system hoping one will power 4 8's
How's the amp holding up?
@@strawberrykiwi9789 Excellent! Still running strong, stays nice and cool. No complaints at all. Highly recommend the Amp.
Phoenix Gold was great 👍 back in the day 😎 Didn't know they were part of Stinger...
Stinger and Recoil are the 2 best budget amps on the market. Stinger tends to make rated or over wattage. While Recoil tends to make under or rated. Reliability on both is really unknown at this point. Looking at the boards in my opinion I think the Stinger might have the slightly better design and reliability but I guess I’ll find out I have a Stinger 1500.1 and a Recoil DI1200-4 currently playing.
I bought this amp and it's great! Can't wait to get a better box and sub to really test it.
Glad you like it.
That lil amp is bumping!!!
Ok. So this video is a PERFECT illustration of something which really makes me scratch my head. I have been watching your videos and Big D's videos for quite a while now. And I have seen you guys test and review a significant number of budget friendly amps which pump out a ton of watts per dollar. Some of these are truly amazing performers. So here's my head scratcher. How is it that these small little amps can pump out 300-1000 watts but these little mini amps which people buy to drive a small desktop stereo struggle to even make 40 or 50 watts? I mean seriously...it's not like the technology isn't there. Obviously, if Stinger or Boss or Ignite or NVX or you-name-it can make little lunchbox sized amps which can put out literally hundreds of watts, why can't these little mini amps do the same? I'd even pay a little more, say two hundred or higher for a mini amp that could really pump out the power. Now...here's an even BIGGER head scratcher. Home stereo/theater amps. To get one which puts out say 300 watts per channel will set you back well in excess of $1k. Meanwhile Down For Sound makes an amp which delivers 300 watts in stereo for less than $300!!! What in the HELL is up with THAT?
No head scratching at all really. If you pay attention to the internals of all the types of amps you mention, youll see that many are completely different designs from each other, as well as different places of manufacture, components and specs with varying degrees of quality. Usually smaller amps regardless of power are not going to have quite the quality internals (there are exceptions) and also are only going to be able to have certain limitation with those internal components. Most (newer) small amps are "brazilian" design, which are a completely different way of producing the same watts as many other much larger amps. As well, the Brazilian amps are rarely known for their sound quality. Also, if youve watched Big D's vids and any other dyno tests, youll see that even though many of the Brazilian as well as normal amps (class A, A/B, D, ect) put out 'X' amount of power, but with box rise, amperage loss, and heat transfer, and other factors, youll rarely get that amount of power from amps in general (again, there are exceptions). As well, dynos are generally used with resistive loads, these loads are pulling what the amp can deliver. Music is full of different frequencies, a low bass note may draw 1200w for a split second, but most regular notes will only require 150+ -.
As far as home amps, their designs are all over the place, with the general acceptance that "more expensive is better" (as usual, there are exceptions there as well lol). But most are "only" putting out a few hundred watts because a home system has VERY different requirements than a car environment. Also, the requirements of the home speakers themselves rarely requires and over abundance of power (although, that trend has been changing in the last handful of years as well). Also (again!), a matter of taste as well, many home theater guys are obsessed with the "sound" (or lack there of) of amps and home components (also aesthetic design)....either they shouldnt hear them at all, or they should have the impression of whatever sound said person enjoys. Far too many home theater guys are obsessed with graphs as well, they are "listening" with their eyes, and tricking their ears into thinking they can hear the difference in the slightest nuance of frequency changes...completely ridiculous for the most part lol.
Oh, and those guys often listen to terrible music (LOL, just kidding...kinda). "Only" the Cerwin Vega guys expect their gear to be cranked as loud as possible all the time lolol.
Regardless of all of that, while the technology may be there, the various reasons they dont do what youd expect are great, with all kinds of factors as to why.
have you tried some Pro/Dj Audio Amps? I have been messing around with car audio and Pro/Dj Audi and have merged the Pro/Dj Audio Amps with car audio subs and door speakers and have had some good fun with my garage system. Tons of low end bass and super clean vocals/mids/highs.
That's a LOT of verbiage which doesn't really address my fundamental question. I'll make it simpler.
Car Amp Manufacturer A makes an amp that generates gobs of power into the most difficult loads all the way down to half an ohm and works reliably under extreme conditions (in a car) and sells it for say, $500.
Home Audiophile Manufacturer A makes an amp that generates say 300 watts into a 4 ohm load and charges $3000.
Makes no sense. If it can be done for less, why doesn't SOMEONE do it and make a TON of money? And don't talk to me about SQ. I've heard PLENTY of car audio systems which sound absolutely pristine. Audiophile quality.
@@MeTuLHeD Just because its "wordy" and doesnt make sense to YOU, doesnt make it inaccurate. If you think itll do well, then start a company and do it!! Its your market to lose!!! lol
Kidding aside, often times thousands of watts arent needed in home audio...whats to understand? Other than subwoofers, home components dont need kilowatts of power. Some "simpler" things have trickled into home audio, but in general its not necessary. Different manufacturing processes, different requirements of electronic components, different standards of production ect. Many high end home amplifier (as well as speaker) manufacturers in addition to using as top quality electronics as they can get also hand build, spend gobs of money on top audio engineers, R&D, proprietary designs (almost NO home manufacturer has the same "looks" or designs as another), and are made in very limited quantities. Also, why make something cheap when you can market it as "the most expensive and best" and charge as much as people are willing to pay? These guys will spend $5,000-$10,000 on up for a single speaker, just because they can. The car audio market and home market are not the same lol.
And you will never hear a car audio system that will come close to the most high end home system. Its practically impossible. Even the best SQ car will never be able to have the same qualities as a fully treated room and dsp, eq'd, and precisely aligned home stereo system. If you've never heard (or seen) a several hundred thousand dollar home system, you will never understand. Money foolishly spent to me at a certain point but nonetheless, awe inspiring is putting it mildly.
And rarely are home speakers designed as lower ohm loads than 8/4, its not needed. So why design an amp that needs to carry that low ohm load? When you drop the load on a car amp, the sound quality will suffer, and the wasted efficiency and power is just generating heat, and shortening the components lifespan as well. Home amplifiers dont need to do that, and many are also high current.... thats a whole 'nother "overly wordy" explanation that you probably wont like either, so no point in going into it.
@@imawesomeyourenot Don't get pissed dude. We're just having a discussion on the internet, not fighting in a death match.
I have been an audiophile for years and have a relatively expensive home system. No. Not a $5k per speaker system. But still a VERY nice system. Good separates. Good speakers. A state of the art sub. So I am not uninformed or inexperienced. I have been to at least a dozen high end audio shows and have heard everything you can imagine from 500 dollar power amps to 10 thousand dollar power amps. Blah blah blah. That is still not really relevant to my question.
My premise is extremely simple and doesn't require a ton of caveats. Car audio power amps perform well. The good ones sound pretty decent. I would say they reproduce music at least as well as most mid tier home stereo components that I have heard. Indeed, better than some. And my conviction still stands. If a car audio manufacturer can make a truly high performance amp which delivers a lot of watts per dollar, there is no reason a home audio manufacturer could not do the same. It's purely logical.
And for the record, if the high end audio manufacturers are charging high prices because people are willing to pay it, then they aren't delivering value. They're selling mystique.
I have a 60lb triple coil 12” phoenix, gold subwoofer. She slams
I used to compete in car audio with pheonix gold amps and boston acoustics pro series speakers...sounded sooooo good
Back in the day!
There 10 inch head unit for a Toyota Tacoma 2016-2023 is really nice and has Apple CarPlay and android CarPlay you can hook up for cameras to that head unit I am 48 years old so growing up in the 80s and 90s high school in the 90s everybody had aftermarket stereo systems in their cars and trucks that’s when the louder the bass that’s what every one wanted
Phoenix gold I definitely remember that brand I think if I remember correctly they made high end speaker wire and all the wire do you need it to hook up your amplifiers the fuses
When I was young and in high school I had kicker competition subs and alpine amplifiers and alpine pull out stereo then somebody broke into my truck and stole the sleeve set then I got a detachable face alpine head unit after that I got it alpine detachable face head unit and after I graduated high school and start working all the time I remember like all my friends are used to go to a place called sound crafters this is in Baltimore county Maryland friend of mine had a 5.0 mustang this was in 1996 the car was a 1991 or 1992 he got some kicker solo baric and this was before they were square these 12 inch the round ones they kept having problems with them they sound like💩💩💩 and I remember the only one that kicker did not have a problem with what is a 15 inch so he got 115 inch for the back of the mustang and he was done plumber school so he start making better money he bought a 1996 four runner brand new leather seat he got Six 10 inch JL audio 10 W6 he had a custom box made it was leather to match the seats in the forerunner 6 subs and I can’t remember if he had Rockford amps or kicker amps yeah extra battery and battery caps that was the first time ever seeing them the system was so heavy yeah they get some kind of balloons I forget exactly what they were called because the truck sagged in the back so these air shocks made it not so low in the back I know he’s spent over 20,000 hours getting all that stuff done people back in your system lotta friends that spend big money on their stereo systems and the base was so loud and vibrated the vehicle so bad I don’t even think it sounds good in the cars like a friend of mine had a BMW and everything was in the trunk translate it was just too much
Oh front of mine had a rodeo and he had four kicker competition 10 inch with a Kenwood 1021 amplifier he made the box to selves face straight back towards the hatch and the other two were on a 45° angle facing back and the rodeos had those windows that open so the other two was facing braided the window and he had for his meds in hives Alpine 6 1/2 for them with an amplifier and I’m not gonna lie that stereo system sounds better than everybody I knew that spent all that money everybody always wanted bigger woofers at first then I learned that smaller subs especially depending on what kind of car you had and where you had the woofer facing made the difference on how good your stereo system sound it I mean don’t get me wrong his forerunner sound really good but not $20,000 and I got rid of my 12 inch kickers and got 10 inch that was my girlfriends car and I had a box I bought from my friend 4 8 inch Kicker comp with a alpine amplifier I can’t remember which one it was it was a four channel that I had bridge down and it’s sound great I had that for a few years then somebody stole my stuff and so I went to the same place because I wanted a custom box I got three 10 inch JL audio 10 W sixes with a rod for Fosgate amplifier and a Kenwood flip face head unit down it was detachable face but if I remember correctly the face with hold down so you can put the CD in it if I remember correctly 1997 this was like a brand new Kenwood head unit at the time and this was just like a normal size head unit nothing light everybody gets now or I that stinger 10 inch head unit for the Tacoma‘s Toyota Tacoma‘s are really popular they’re all over UA-cam with there Toyota Tacoma‘s oh Toyota forerunners Toyota Tacoma‘s and tundras are make the most popular trucks on UA-cam or and that stinger head unit is so nice alpine and Sony makes some nice stereos for the Tacoma stinger really knocked it out of the park for the Tacoma and I’m not gonna get nothing crazy stereo shit kicker makes some boxes already made and they come with the sub and a passive radiator Kicker makes this box in 12 inch 10inch 8 inch and 6 3/4 Kicker CWRT672Loaded enclosure
There all truck style sealed enclosure from what people say on UA-cam they sound good for being such a small enclosure
I have a 1000 watt mono powering two subs and it’s just not what I’d figure it would be coming from two cheap subs and 200 watts each. Any way to check amp output with meter
I'm looking for an amp for a cheap Infinity 1270B i just ordered. Keep coming back to this amp. I think at this price point its a no brainer.
I agree.
Great video man. I just bought the m700 last month and it punished my jl 12w3-2. I was literally blown away on its ability plus it sounds great.
keep up the good work on the budget banger stuff. Hey, do you know what happened to the Budget Gem Guy?
No idea.
The mt 2000.1d is insanely powerful. Running 2-3000 watt a.b. hawks and they are pushed hard with a lot of power to spare!
These are good amps.
@@DIYAudioGuy
Please can you test the 600.4 and the 1000.5
I have to say these amps are very impressive
It's a great amp.
I need to check out their product line. I always preferred tsunami over stinger back in the day.
For budget friendly, monoBlock i think its best buy and most in YT are in good reviews
I agree.
Got the stinger 1k on my 2 12w6v3 @ 4 and slams @4 due to haven't upgraded alt yet plus other car has 3 15s off a hcca 5k with 300amp alt 4 batts so not worried bout going to 1 my 3 15s split my trunk In half
Glad you like the amp.
New to installing putting this amp in my car how do I put a external fuse in for this amp
I got the Stinger 2000.1. I love it.
How's it holding up?
I've got the same one mt-2000.1 and I'm telling you for the money it's a beast
@DIYAudioGuy
Did your amp come with a power certificate? And what were those numbers?
my buddy bought the stinger MT1500 and it clips when he puts the volume up to 15 the volume goes to 40 he had the gain set around halfway on the amp. i talked him into getting a jp23v2 and it no longer clips and is very happy with the amp, as i am with my own jp23v2.
Guarantee the gains were set wrong I get full power out of mine and im not even close to halfway up
yeah installation epic fail
I have the stinger 1500. Bass knob sucks and it randomly shuts off and comes back on but what could you expect for 149 bucks!!
Reach out to Stinger's tech support. The main reason to stick with a known brand is for the support, if they don't make it right then why pay extra for the product?
My son just bought this amp, I’m in the process of hooking this up to a JL audio W6 anniversary edition 12 in a Boston acoustics bandpass box, I’m excited to see how it sounds.
I'm not a fan of bandpass boxes, they are tricky to get right. Keep in mind that that particular enclosure was probably designed for a completely different subwoofer, so you may not get the best possible results out of that expensive JL Audio subwoofer.
@@DIYAudioGuy I wish I could post a picture on here to show you the single 12 Boston acoustics rally bandpass, the flared port design offers great sound quality, especially from a 4th.
I need help from you guys. I'm done with the expensive part of my system (head unit, subwoofer alpine x-w10d4, fosgate 1000w punch mono, new pioneer double DIN.) and I'm B to the ROKE for at least the next 30-60 days but need a good but cheep 4 channel amp for door speakers that won't break the Bank. Any recommendations would be sooooo appreciated. Love y'all ❤️❤️❤️ and huge a thanks in advance. Need room to grow (replacement door speakers) in wattage but need a small bump in the meantime.
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@@DIYAudioGuy your the best! Thank you sir 🫶
Can u tell me please, what should i be looking for when i see the inside of an amp to show me that the amp is worthy of the Numbers it says it is .?
Im thinking those 2200 micron baby capacitors would have more to do with what it pumps out, but my kicker 850.2 has 6 big ones and 6 med and lots of tiny caps.
But then u show the stinger that has fewer pumping out more watts then my kicker amp.
I'm old school, U like ppi, Orion, la sound, these amps would display what they actually were😊
I have no idea. I open up the amps to show them on video, because viewers like to see guts. That is a question for Sam his UA-cam channel is Barevids.
Impressive!
Wait, did you wire the sub to 1 ohm or 2? Excellent amp
1 ohm, it was 2 after box rise.
@@DIYAudioGuy that’s incredible.
What are you using as a load for testing the amp?
Huge resistors
@@DIYAudioGuy could you guide me to what model? I'm about to build my own test bench, need to be able to test 10kw @ 1 ohm
Can u please help me out? I have two JL audio subs I just got used they are in an enclosure. What amp do I need to match. They are two 12s
Any amp that matches the RMS power rating of the subs will work. JL makes several different product lines, each with different RMS ratings.
@@DIYAudioGuy I found out they are 600rms I think 2ohm sorry I didn’t give u all the info. They are the w12-2a
@@james-dt4ei I recommend the 1200 w version of the stinger amp. Good bang for the buck.
My stinger 1500.1 just died after 4 months on 2, 8’s…
I hate to hear that, reach out to Stinger and see if they will make it right.
ANYONE REPLY ME PLEASE 🙏🙏🙏
So I won't be needing any stereo or smps to play my subwoofer..... I'll only need cable and this amps to play my JBL subwoofer.?
Everybody wanted to run Streetwires wire, and they dominated the IASCA judging lanes, but it was expensive stuff.
Phoenix Gold was the cheap stuff you bought when you couldn't afford Streetwires
Scosche EFX was the cheaper stuff you bought when you couldn't afford Phoenix Gold.
And Stinger was the really cheap stuff you bought when you couldn't afford Scosche!
Too bad you uploaded this today. I just placed my amazon order for a Skar amp last night.
There have been videos on the 1000 1500 and 2000 out for months
D'OH!
@@DIYAudioGuy you should do a video on regrets and the rabbit hole you may pursue to get what you already bought to work.
Am I crazy or does that look a lot like a Audio Legion 700?
You are crazy. It doesn't look like the audio legion externally and it also does not look like the audio legion internally.
These amps are junk! Lasted 2 months and stop working!!
Sorry to hear that, make sure you return it.
Just another Chinese rebadged
I don't believe so on this one. I believe they designed it, obviously using Chinese parts
It's built in house.
It is not built in house. It says designed in USA made in china right on the box.@@jeffmorefield
It's designed by David Chao in the USA but it's built in China for labor savings of course.
Good idea or not? I want this for my Fosgate P3 D2 in a ported enclosure, it's rated for 600 rms so I'm hoping I'll be able to run the Amp around 75-80% so it doesn't struggle. I bought the sub in Sept 2016, wrecked the ride in Jan 2017. Been on the self since, face up, still in the enclosure. Is it still going to be good to go? I had just broken it in when I wrecked.