Budget Amazon 10-inch Subwoofer Showdown: Polk, Klipsch, Elac, Yamaha, Sony

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
  • The market is flooded with $100-$200 10-inch powered subwoofers. So, how do you separate the good from the bad… the high value products from the others… and how do you make the right purchase decision to get you the product you need while not over-spending?
    To tackle those questions and (truthfully) give my UA-cam channel a kick in the pants, I ordered 5 of the more popular budget 10-inch powered subwoofers from Amazon and conducted my own shootout. This video explores these options and aims to provide you with some knowledge - using science, not fluff - to help your purchase decisions.
    The subwoofers tested can be purchased via the following links:
    Yamaha NS-SW100BL: geni.us/OB5Li
    Polk Audio PSW10: shop-links.co/chJC1AyKJA0
    Elac SUB1010: geni.us/CALeB
    Klipsch Reference R-10SW: shop-links.co/chJC1A0g6P1
    Sony SACS9: geni.us/4WrHH
    (Note: Affiliate links above. I get a small commission from sales made through my affiliate links without any additional cost to you.)
    Results sheet can be found via my Google Sheet:
    www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loud...
    Some information regarding the use of multiple subwoofers to provide a smoother in-room response:
    hometheaterhifi.com/technical...
    Because I know I will be asked: Before I began testing, I reached out to both Monoprice and Parts-Express about obtaining review samples that I would send back but I did not get a response. If you have a subwoofer you would like me to test, track me down and let’s see if we can work something out.
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    My site:
    www.erinsaudiocorner.com/
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    / erinsaudiocorner
    All of my tests are conducted using KLIPPEL Hardware and Software. KLIPPEL is an innovative leader in providing unique test equipment for electro-acoustical transducers and audio systems. Founded in 1997 by Dr. Wolfgang Klippel, the novel techniques developed for control and measurement systems of loudspeakers and other transducers are the result of over 30 years of fundamental research. This provides more accurate physical models of loudspeakers, micro-speakers and headphones valid for both small and large amplitudes. The focus is on revealing the root causes of signal distortion and defects and giving practical indications for improvements in design and manufacturing of audio products. For information on KLIPPEL products, please visit their site below:
    www.klippel.de/company/about-u...
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  • @wal
    @wal 3 роки тому +575

    Superb comparison and I doubt people realize the time it takes to video, test and analyze all of these results. I can only give one thumb up, but two thumbs up are deserved!

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +42

      Thank you, man. I appreciate that. And, you are definitely right... I don't think many understand the legwork that goes in to testing and analyzing the data before I even begin thinking about the video to present the results. It takes more than a full working day to complete one test.

    • @Aaron-yw2pw
      @Aaron-yw2pw 3 роки тому +3

      Beans

    • @chandlerlaruex
      @chandlerlaruex 3 роки тому +7

      Wow, Love your content Wililston, always awesome to see great content creators recognizing smaller channels!

    • @demonreturns4336
      @demonreturns4336 3 роки тому +4

      You can only give one thumbs up? Dude I’ve given girls 3 thumbs up before

    • @keepingupwiththejones2933
      @keepingupwiththejones2933 3 роки тому +4

      @@demonreturns4336 seriously how old are you? This isn't a frat house. Have some respect for the man's work .

  • @sonorangaming4450
    @sonorangaming4450 2 роки тому +155

    Also, "I have $150 to spend on a sub, what do I get?" "I don't know. Let me spend $1k to find out for you."

    • @Max-df5zp
      @Max-df5zp Рік тому +12

      But why is it so hard, i just want some bass and not spend all my savings

    • @sonorangaming4450
      @sonorangaming4450 Рік тому +1

      @@Max-df5zp understandable

    • @donalddluckerii3147
      @donalddluckerii3147 6 місяців тому +8

      Hands down this is the most useful inexpensive subwoofer review I have seen. Very well done thank you for taking the time to do this

    • @Jacoby559
      @Jacoby559 5 місяців тому

      ⁠@@Max-df5zp I got scar SDR 600 W RMS 10” build a box buy $100 power supply or whatever supplies the right amount of amps for an amplifier I bought a 100 amp and I bought the 800 w rms scar amplifier. Or Buy the whole sub kit for 300- $400 and all you gotta do is buy the power supply takes a lot of knowledge, but it works a lot better

    • @garrettgiuffre7298
      @garrettgiuffre7298 4 місяці тому +2

      Got to love that Amazon return policy

  • @vannk73
    @vannk73 3 роки тому +164

    Speakers compared based on actual test data?! What a concept. You earned a subscriber here.

    • @EAGLINWRX
      @EAGLINWRX 2 роки тому +9

      You don’t listen to data. You listen to the sound. And that’s very subjective. Hats off to this guy for a great review but just wanted to clarify on what you said.

    • @Azzy_Mazzy
      @Azzy_Mazzy 2 роки тому +5

      @@EAGLINWRX sound is not as subjective you think its.

    • @Banshee421x
      @Banshee421x Рік тому +1

      I just want to hear a couple of songs each. I don't care about paper numbers. Real-world dynamic sound. I don't want some to tell me what they think it will sound like

  • @HifiVega
    @HifiVega 3 роки тому +101

    I can dig it! Always interested in seeing budget equipment put head to head by an independent reviewer. This was a ton of work I hope people appreciate what you’re doing here.

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +6

      Thanks man! I’m a fan of yours so that especially means a lot that you’d take time to reply here.

    • @HifiVega
      @HifiVega 3 роки тому +4

      Erin's Audio Corner thanks! You’re doing the lords work here so the least I could do was drop a comment and share this video because a lot of people looking for a HT sub are definitely looking at these under $200 models.

  • @poochymama2878
    @poochymama2878 3 роки тому +207

    By far the best subwoofer comparison I've seen on youtube.

    • @masterofgames8261
      @masterofgames8261 3 роки тому +6

      Not really, he shows the subs then goes to a website where you can also read it yourself in under 20 minutes, and the audio is echoing back when he does the screen recording.

    • @parkeranderson7155
      @parkeranderson7155 3 роки тому +3

      @@masterofgames8261 he did all of the research and data though?

    • @1450JackCade
      @1450JackCade 3 роки тому +2

      @@parkeranderson7155 $$$$ and look at the subs he examines, all the low end ones have some fatal flaw, then there's an these $500+ subs, why?
      Freebies? Sales cash or just bad judgement?
      Why no Daytons?
      I mean, that's weird.
      No klipsch, no Jamo?

    • @parkeranderson7155
      @parkeranderson7155 3 роки тому +3

      @@1450JackCade I have no clue what you're on about

    • @jfmc2581
      @jfmc2581 3 роки тому +2

      @@1450JackCade ,And his summation... Buy 2 or 3!!! What a Clown!!

  • @bcamcam2
    @bcamcam2 3 роки тому +6

    I bought my Polk back in 2008 as an open box at best buy for about $170 and have loved it the entire time. I have recently paired it with a set of Klipsch quintet satellite system on a Yamaha receiver and it sounds amazing...

  • @ghostwood9174
    @ghostwood9174 Рік тому +2

    Just started building my “newbie” vinyl player stereo set-up. Being on a budget and with limited space, this video was immensely helpful and insightful for me. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this. You just earned a new subscriber 👍

  • @ldfelix
    @ldfelix 3 роки тому +31

    Really good shootout. I expected the Polk to win based on my experience but happy to see it so well quantified!

  • @FrancisSiuChock
    @FrancisSiuChock 3 роки тому +6

    Erin, fantastic job at presenting the variables and results from your testing! Really clarifies what each subwoofer is good at and more importantly, helps you decide which unit to purchase on based what you are looking for in your subwoofer! Thanks again!

  • @GadgetryTech
    @GadgetryTech 3 роки тому +20

    This review and testing looks sound, great job on the level of detail. The only challenge here is the room factor with placement of ports. I have the Polk PSW10 and the Klipsch R-10SW and the Klipsch is noticeably louder in the large living room. It didn't even come close. Part of that had to do with how the port interacts with the rear wall. I'm not an expert in subwoofer placement, but it's worth a note. My Polk sub seems to "hit" a little harder, but the rear port on the Klipsch energizes the room more for deep rumbles/long bass notes.
    Nice job!

    • @johnsweda2999
      @johnsweda2999 2 роки тому +1

      You can reverse the the sub put the driver against the wall 6"-10" and have the Port pointing out tilt it up a bit as well

  • @peterphan227
    @peterphan227 3 роки тому +12

    Exactly the review I was looking for, with the subs I was looking at. Thank you! I'm going to go for the Elac. Aside from performance, size and aesthetics are also factors I was considering. So I'm glad you took into account these various characteristics.

  • @coolelectronics1759
    @coolelectronics1759 2 роки тому +4

    man the effert you put into making this, going into all the granularities relevant to each unit using real data analysis, this is dedication.
    This gets a sub from me pun intended!

  • @tjkadar
    @tjkadar 3 роки тому +22

    Great work Erin. Appreciate all the time and effort you're putting into this!

  • @cubano07x
    @cubano07x 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much for your detailed, clear video! I have always wondered what the differences were and which to choose, you have just made my choice clear. Thanks again! Keep up the great work

  • @troystevens9506
    @troystevens9506 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you. This video has been a GREAT help. Helping a friend put together a HT system and I had no clue on what budget subwoofers to even look at. Video was simple and to the point which made it much easier to make a selection. My buddy is getting an Elac. Your channel is a hidden gem. You should have far more subscribers.

  • @transam4555
    @transam4555 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for taking the time in reviewing so many subwoofers. I have made a selection upon your reviews and I am loving what I have invested in keep on rocking man

  • @JDL16
    @JDL16 3 роки тому +7

    This is straight quality! Very clear, concise and right to the point, plus well informative data from your testing. You got an instant sub from me.

  • @frednick5443
    @frednick5443 3 роки тому +12

    Yes!!! FINALLY SOMEONE HAS DONE THIS REVIEW! Thank you! Thank you!

  • @edlopez5k
    @edlopez5k Рік тому +1

    I was recently gifted a nice home theater system. Your easy to follow explanations, insights, testing, and commitment to help newbies like me earned you a subscriber for sure. Will be using your affiliate link this week to select the subwoofer that matches my needs. Bravo!🙂

  • @jaliyawick
    @jaliyawick 3 роки тому +2

    I just bought a Polk PSW12 sub to use with Sony DH196 receiver and I couldn't be more happier. The quality and the sound of the Polk sub is outstanding considering I paid $139. I highly recommend it.

  • @claxtoncurtis811
    @claxtoncurtis811 3 роки тому +3

    i got my whole system for under $200. Yamaha receiver for $60 used Monoprice home-theater- in-a-box for $100. Just watched Hook with the reciever settings perfect and was thoroughly impressed. My dad won't let me use his klipsch kg3's but I've heard them before so i know my system is pretty decent for what I paid.

  • @the_niceking7011
    @the_niceking7011 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for the great data as always. I'm currently neck deep in learning DIY home audio, and while you usually get better bang per buck by building yourself I can't see a DIY sub beating the Elac/Polk for the money, really astounding value.

    • @nabildanial00
      @nabildanial00 3 роки тому +1

      I just built a DIY sub using SB Acoustics 8 inch SB23MFCL45-4 ported, and to be honest I should've went with the ELAC instead. DIY isn't always a great value.

  • @nordgrinder6119
    @nordgrinder6119 3 роки тому +1

    Here from CAJ (as well as subscribed for several months). Another great video! While as a dedicated DIYer I'm not likely to ever be in the market for such products, I especially enjoy your budget speaker reviews. Thank you for providing this much needed service.

  • @joelgonzales7139
    @joelgonzales7139 3 роки тому

    Thanks alot......I'm so glad I found this video. I just purchased Elac speakers and knowing I can have matching sub speakers makes me excited. A big thumbs up.

  • @shrekdaklown
    @shrekdaklown 3 роки тому +8

    I had the polk previously it just died one day after 3 months so i decided to give the klipsch a try and loved it to my ears it was more accurate to the original music with a more lively sound i will say the elac is interesting im running dayton audio 6.5 air bookshelfs with matching center channel and 4 inch air rear fills so not a klipsch fanboy overall great review thank you for your hard work

  • @TheFandangovideoguy
    @TheFandangovideoguy 3 роки тому +9

    amazing work! fantastic! Such an amazing project!! wow...I may go for the ELAC for a small set up...

  • @Rob-fq2oh
    @Rob-fq2oh 2 роки тому +1

    Just ordered the Elac for the bedroom surround system, paired with the Jamo 803 mains, 801 surround and S81 center for a whopping grand total of about 375.00, complementing an LG Oled 55”. Thanks for the hard work doing the review! I may add the second Elac, depends how everything sounds when it arrives. Using an older Sony STRDN1050 for processing/amplification.

  • @tone7560
    @tone7560 Рік тому

    Thanks much for the video, have been shopping around looking at budget subs and was eyeing the ELAC, ur video helped me seal the deal. Bought from your link as a thank you. All of ur hard work is much appreciated! Happy holidays

  • @projectmanagement2356
    @projectmanagement2356 3 роки тому +13

    I've had the Polk for years and it has been awesome 7 years to be exact.

  • @48Boxer
    @48Boxer 3 роки тому +4

    I have a Polk psw10 for my outdoor systems. I figured for the price ($99 if you keep an eye out) I could swap out every couple of years. I keep them covered and the first one has been in use for about 3 years, the other for over 2 years in a salt environment.

  • @FrankieBag0donuts
    @FrankieBag0donuts 3 роки тому +1

    I almost pulled the trigger on the Yamaha sub until I saw this video!
    Based on your findings (and my budget) I just purchased the Elac sub.
    THANKS for doing this great comparison video!!

  • @AlwaysBeSmart674
    @AlwaysBeSmart674 3 роки тому

    You’re the man. I’m leaving this comment 1 second in because you’re the first video on these Amazon subs by someone who’s actually seen, used and touched the products they’re talking about in person instead of just reading off reviews or guessing if it’s good or not because of the brand.

  • @ACBMemphis
    @ACBMemphis 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for posting this-great review! I have a Cambridge Soundworks PSW1 from the 90s that is still going strong, but looking to upgrade to something more "wife-approved" in the living room.

  • @ellyetc
    @ellyetc 3 роки тому +25

    Picked up the Elac sub a few weeks ago to match with my speakers and I couldn’t be happier about it.

    • @ellyetc
      @ellyetc 3 роки тому +5

      After 5 months, I’m still loving it. It really packs a punch. I will mention that I’m an average listener and not audiophile though.

  • @RyanLBC
    @RyanLBC 3 роки тому +2

    thanks for the review! i also learned a lot from this. i have both the polk and the elac for my computer and tv setup. i didn't do much research when i ordered both. i guess i got lucky and got totally relieved after i watched your review.

    • @rajm2309
      @rajm2309 3 роки тому +2

      Which is better? I’m thinking of buying.

  • @tribalskyes4838
    @tribalskyes4838 3 роки тому +1

    Great job Erin 5 months later and yours is the BEST budget sub comparison on Ytube.

  • @gustavogonzalez6184
    @gustavogonzalez6184 3 роки тому +10

    Thank you so much for this review, Erin. I bought an ELAC Sub1010 and it sounds great for a small room. Cheers!

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +1

      Awesome!

    • @BobGeogeo
      @BobGeogeo 2 роки тому +1

      I just ordered the ELAC bsed on this - the smaller size is a plus for me. It's replacing a Pioneer 8SW lost to a lightening strike. Possibly both of them are Andrew Jones designs

  • @zackw4941
    @zackw4941 3 роки тому +3

    I've got a pair of Dayton Audio 12" powered subs. I searched coupons and one was an open box deal. I got the pair for about $233 shipped. I am very happy with the performance for the dollar. I don't have any particular bass management on my amp and am using the high level inputs. My room is a little wonky and they do a good job producing fairly solid bass at the listening position. I'm sure they can't compete with the high dollar subs out there, but the important thing is, they are good enough to enjoy and not a waster of the money I did spend. I don't plan to try to upgrade out of them until after doing something like a MiniDSP with a proper power amp and a calibrated mic for room/system correction.

    • @jesterscorner879
      @jesterscorner879 3 роки тому

      The Dayton Audio SUB-1200 is the best sub under $150 new that you can buy. I don't think you will get any closer to that true deep theater rumble than the Dayton Audio for that price range (unless you get a steal on a used sub).

  • @dragan3290
    @dragan3290 2 роки тому

    I clicked on the link out of curiosity. My speaker repair guy/ engineer taught me a lot in the 90s. But I love Audio equipment! That is a big job ! Testing, looking at and comparing specs. Etc.i subbed and liked. Cheers from Australia 🙂 👍

  • @simmyqux
    @simmyqux 2 роки тому +1

    I followed your advice and got 2 Polks when they were on sale for $100 each and I've been VERY pleased with the results.

  • @OHMAudioChannel
    @OHMAudioChannel 3 роки тому +10

    Ron over at New Record day sent me. Great content and I really appreciated your in depth review of the Neumi BS5 as well. Subscribed.

  • @hugoperez8265
    @hugoperez8265 3 роки тому +5

    I have two polk psw10s on my atmos setup and they sound amazing

  • @soldiercoop
    @soldiercoop 5 місяців тому

    I bought the Polk Audio one after seeing this and it saved me $150-200. Perfect amount of punch for my surround and Like the forward facing air port was nice for placement by wall.

  • @user-gb4np8it8o
    @user-gb4np8it8o 3 роки тому +2

    Erin, what a wonderful review. I'll keep reading your posts on ASR, too!

  • @chriswhalley
    @chriswhalley 3 роки тому +3

    Love that shirt! I was a kid in the 80s and the image on your shirt was first released as a poster. All my friends had it and we cranked up our stereos while wearing sunglasses 😎

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +1

      Dude! Me too! Well, the kid in the 80’s part. I saw the shirt on amazon and clicked buy without even thinking. Stained it. Ordered another. LOL.

  • @avjake
    @avjake 3 роки тому +34

    "Now we're going to flip her around to the back side." Yeah you did.

  • @perotross
    @perotross 3 роки тому +2

    I've got the Polk partnered up with a pair of retired JBL 15" carpeted DJ speakers powered by a $25 Lepai amp and wow, what a set up. Sure the JBLs could handle more power, but the Lepai keeps things under control and the Polk keeps up perfect. I am amazed at the bass that thing can put out. Like they say, my neighbors listen to good music whether they like it or not :-). Great video, thanks for the time and effort!

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Mr. Perot. I know you are a fan of charts so it makes sense you’d like this data. 😂😉😎

  • @Schizo-_-Gamer
    @Schizo-_-Gamer 3 роки тому +1

    Great testing! It cemented the polk in my mind. psw505 12" is what I'm looking at. I was thinking about Klipsch but after I seen how they tested, I dont think I want any of their products at all! Thank you! Now you have me curious about eventually running two psw505's. Time to do some digging/research... Thanks alot.. jk. I am an audiophile, unfortunately I am not loaded and flush with cash. So I do have to live on some kind of budget. I LOVE BASS! I hope I don't piss my neighbor's off too bad lol.

  • @kylerunyon5779
    @kylerunyon5779 3 роки тому +5

    Polk audio is quality. I had some Polk audio subwoofers in my truck years ago and they were top notch for the money

  • @robertbrown1876
    @robertbrown1876 2 роки тому +4

    I really do appreciate the money and time that you have put into this it's definitely helped me in buying a subwoofer for the house. These sub companies should definitely sponsor your work. Thanks

  • @jaekamacho1416
    @jaekamacho1416 3 роки тому +1

    About 2 yrs ago i bought the wireless version of the klipsch sub to use it in the master bedroom "set up". Got it for $150 during Thanksgiving week deals on Amazon. For the price it pumps out some nice punchy bass but i have it set up so we can feel the bass more than hear it, it was able to fit on a corner next to our bed so it gives a nice "feel" effect during action scenes when watching late at night even at low volumes. Ive always wanted to give the polk a try due to its price but the higher watts rms and wireless ability of the klipsch and not to mention its iconic "cera-metallic" cone got my money.

  • @billpancake
    @billpancake 3 роки тому +2

    Woooow this was absolutely incredible. The commitment you put into these videos is nuts man.

  • @carlpetzold1243
    @carlpetzold1243 2 роки тому +5

    I’m a psw 10 guy. And I came to the logical conclusion like last Thursday of using one of the two subs in my room to represent lower frequencies than the other. If placed properly it’s a thing of beauty when low sound seems to come from an invisible source. And when you mentioned specializing two different models for two different jobs it made me proud to be a wanna be audiophile. New subscriber.

  • @ryazbeck
    @ryazbeck 3 роки тому +8

    I've had my polk for about 10 years and it's still going strong and I play it loud quite often.

  • @PanchoPistolas45
    @PanchoPistolas45 3 роки тому

    I run a 10 inch Polk in my garage/home gym setup and it sounds great! Back of the amp area does a get a bit warm when bumping hard for too long

  • @EpicWarDog
    @EpicWarDog 3 роки тому

    Wow man what an amazing video. Setting the standard. You Sir are the new benchmark. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the information you just gave us. Now this is how you do a video. Excellent. Thank You!

  • @CalCobra
    @CalCobra 7 місяців тому +4

    Great testing, love the comparisons! One question though, these tests are great as far as testing output and distortion, but which subs actually sounded the best in theater and music?

  • @GiuseppeRedscarf
    @GiuseppeRedscarf 3 роки тому +42

    I run two of the polk psw-10s in my home theater & I love 'em! In my opinion, Polk makes some of the best entry level/affordable speakers out there.

    • @buddybeavers2691
      @buddybeavers2691 3 роки тому +5

      Yea i like polk. The Andrew jones designed Pioneer are outstanding to for the price. Polk has better sub pioneer tower speakers are better. I have 2 tower speakers and the middle piece Pioneer than 2 polk rear surround. I have a acoustic 12 500 watt sub. That thing drills but its a little more expensive. Thats my living room. Then in my bedroom its all polk same setup just all polk with 1 10" polk sub. There awesome for the price.

    • @timothygreen2689
      @timothygreen2689 2 роки тому +2

      I have a budget system a klipch subwoofer Im a audio person at my age I would not spend to much more for a just bass now if I had high end money then I would spend it but I don't my sub is good enough.

    • @GiuseppeRedscarf
      @GiuseppeRedscarf 2 роки тому

      @@timothygreen2689 amen!

  • @potente141
    @potente141 3 роки тому

    I love no BS assessments. Thank you for your splendid work. BRAVO!!!

  • @Blitzkreger00
    @Blitzkreger00 3 роки тому

    My PC system is a 2.1 set up with a Topping TP-60 Matrix Mini DAC Polk Audio PSW108 Polk Audio T-15 Bookshelf speakers. Super budget speaker setup and sounds awesome. Been using it for about 4-5 years now.

  • @joaquinbarlow6308
    @joaquinbarlow6308 3 роки тому +3

    Great video looking forward for more, hopefully when you do the test on the 12’s you get the Polk PSW505 in there to..

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +2

      I'll try to remember to add that to the list. If you (or someone else seeing this) happens to have one they could loan out for testing, that would be helpful. Otherwise, I'll have to purchase it myself which means it may take a while (if ever).

  • @billkeane4327
    @billkeane4327 2 роки тому +3

    I notice at 25hz and above the Klipsch outperformed the others. It's rated to 32hz +/-3db. Pretty amazing for a 10" budget sub. I had and sent back the Polk because of port, chuffing noise. The Klipsch is simply superb for musicality and tight bass well below 30hz, if not to 20hz.

    • @Step91
      @Step91 Рік тому +1

      I am gettin the Klipsch, but in most recent datasheet he upgraded datas and looks like klipsch not so good. Do you suggest to go on and buying it? I saw that it should go near 20hz with a good result

  • @tonyzeno2715
    @tonyzeno2715 3 роки тому +1

    Great Video, I like that you showed actualy testing done as opposed to just playing each woofer with specific track. I have decided to go with dual sub-set up, after regretting selling my HSU VTF-MKII (SMH) I just have not found anything on that level for a good Pre-owned. So I am going with a DT ProSub 1000 and the Polk PSW10 to fill things out a bit. I always knew Polk was under-rated they were one of the first to use Klippel optimization early in the Game.

  • @skip741x3
    @skip741x3 2 роки тому +1

    Now Thats a subwoofer review! love the benchtesting and thoroughness!

  • @siliconnubian3622
    @siliconnubian3622 3 роки тому +11

    Just found your channel. Some great infor here. Much appreciated.

  • @Silentprofessional1
    @Silentprofessional1 3 роки тому +4

    Tried the Polk and thought it was junk. Ended up getting the Klipsch. Satisfied.

    • @classicgalactica5879
      @classicgalactica5879 3 роки тому

      We had a Polk PSW125. It was never abused or overdriven. After 2 years, it started to make a heartbeat sound. The amp failed. A new amp was sent and 3 years later, the same thing happened again. There were forums all over the web about this issue with PoIk subs. I wouldn't own another Polk sub if it were given to me free of charge. We moved up to an SVS sub. It was more money, but it's worth every penny. Much better construction, much more power, a much better warranty and most important of all, much deeper and more powerful bass.

  • @Mrdilaxo
    @Mrdilaxo 3 роки тому

    Just stumbled on your channel to potentially upgrade my sub. By far the best comparison video I have ever watched. I bought a Polk PSW10 back in 2012 and it has given me no problems and by the looks of it, I won't be upgrading but maybe buying a second! Thank you!

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому

      Sweet! Glad it was helpful and thanks for the good vibes. 🙂

  • @Lowkey_nxthxn
    @Lowkey_nxthxn 3 роки тому +1

    You should do more 10 inch subwoofers reviews like this by far the best video I have seen

  • @sandhyadeepakben9608
    @sandhyadeepakben9608 3 роки тому +12

    Recently bought a used Polk psw10 for $60 ,totally satisfied..

    • @tommyladik1408
      @tommyladik1408 3 роки тому

      Last year on black Friday I got the Polk Audio 10" for $54 new

  • @nickd.3865
    @nickd.3865 3 роки тому +11

    Absolutely love my Polk Sub, sounds so good

    • @hehawkiller
      @hehawkiller 3 роки тому

      Had one and it was trash. My Def Techs produced better and deeper bass. Must have tiny satellites or really bad towers for that to sound good.

    • @nickd.3865
      @nickd.3865 3 роки тому +2

      @@hehawkiller Just a small budget setup lol. As I grow the setup will change

    • @chuckfriebe843
      @chuckfriebe843 3 роки тому

      @@hehawkiller I'm sure they do. They are really expensive.

    • @hehawkiller
      @hehawkiller 3 роки тому

      @@chuckfriebe843 kinda sorta. When I first got them 20 something years ago, it was expensive to me lol. Now i have a speakers that are more expensive than most cars and trucks lol. Estelons! Simply beautiful handmade speakers, that sound amazing.

  • @SkunkieDesignsElectronics
    @SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 роки тому

    This video was enough for me to sub your channel and order the Elac via your link. Looks like it will be a great unit to lightly fill in below 40hz on my 300B tube amp setup. Keep up the great work!

  • @jaygannon1095
    @jaygannon1095 3 роки тому +2

    Great video! Nice to see the data. I'd be really curious to see how that data would stand alongside blind ABX testing comparisons, if it would yield the same ranking results with a variety of listeners. Sometimes people find distortions of one sort or another pleasant to the ear, even if it doesn't measure well, and that's a very subjective thing.

  • @rreichar1
    @rreichar1 3 роки тому +4

    Nice comparison! The Klipsch still looks the coolest.

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +1

      Haha. Yea... it definitely grabs your attention.

  • @jeffsloane8628
    @jeffsloane8628 3 роки тому +3

    "LFE is just passthrough." What? The LFE input is for Low-Frequency Effects. It should be connected to the LFE or subwoofer out on your amplifier/receiver. Great video. Thumbs up for the test group, measurement process, graphs and especially letting your viewers know about multi sub. That is more important the cost of the subwoofer itself IMO.

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому

      Thanks.
      Pass through as in, pass through from the LFE channel of the AVR, etc.

  • @MEXIPARROT
    @MEXIPARROT 3 роки тому

    I appreciate this video, I'm completely new to choosing audio parts and this was the best video to check out many speakers at once! Neat

  • @donbustoarigato2997
    @donbustoarigato2997 3 роки тому +1

    Doing good work there. I just bought the Elac 1010. Haven't checked it out yet. Just needed it to supplement the bass from the Elac Debut B6s. Will use this set up in a vacation home, so not looking to spend the big money and may also disturb neighbors. Might be a condo. So pretty sure this will do the job cheap. For a little over $100 it's hard to complain. Thought about the Polk, but a it's too bulky. Like the smaller profile of the Elac. Only worry, some have complained about amp problems here and there.

  • @stevenneese2823
    @stevenneese2823 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the comparison. However, I have that polk 10, and It absolutely does not pick up 20 hz. I have ran several frequency tests on it and in stock form 32-33hz was just about the lowest it could handle with somewhat decent db levels. Probably an f10 @ 32hz. It's rated f3 is 40 hz and total low end response was 35 hz. It's port is literally tuned to 40hz. So from my experience, there is no way it's putting out an audible 20hz.
    I figured I'd mess around with it since i got it for cheap. I lined the entire cabinet with polyfill sheets, and I extended the port length by about 3 inches. This did improve the quality of sound, and i was able to hear a decently audible 27-28hz. However, all I really did was shift the curve to the left a bit, while sacrificing a bit loudness around the 40+hz range. This was ok in my situation as I was using it as a second sub in my home theater setup at the time. It now sits in my master bedroom as part of my 5.2 setup. It sounds decent for what it is. But at no point did it ever produce anything around 20 hz audibly. Hope the comment helps your algorithm

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the reply. I agree. There's practically nothing at 20Hz, relatively speaking. Measuring in your room may be why you couldn't get anything below 20Hz (if you have a suckout there). But, aside from *potential* in-room response measurement issues, it does measure at 20Hz. Just not much at all. It's relative. According to my data, 20Hz is down about 30dB relative to 40Hz. These size subwoofers are more like midbass modules than they are "sub" woofers. Hope that helps clear things up.

    • @stevenneese2823
      @stevenneese2823 3 роки тому +1

      @@ErinsAudioCorner that actually does help clear things up. Down 30db at 20hz makes perfect sense

  • @Subway2400
    @Subway2400 3 роки тому +4

    Hi ! Thanks for your review, it's very helpful and I like to see true measurements. I might have a clue why the Klipsch failed the lower frequencies : I had a Jamo J10 which is exactly the same subwoofer but with a different branding (it even had "R-10SW" printed on its circuit boards). It has a very aggressive high-pass filter at around 28/30Hz. Below that there is virtually nothing, it's like a brickwall filter. I guess they did this to prevent excessive excursion and port chuffing, and thus increase global power handling while still providing a good SPL down to 30Hz (and your tests show that it has the higher SPL at around 30Hz). Forcing frequencies below 30Hz at a very high volume with a tone generator resulted in a kind of weird beeping digital noise as if the electronic filter was overwhelmed. I think this is why it did not pass the lower frequencies test. But while watching movies, even at a high volume, it did not exhibit this behavior and it was perfectly fine. It neved showed any sign of saturation, etc. It was a good budget subwoofer, but I since upgraded to a SVS PB1000 to get a true subwoofer.

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому

      Yea, one thing I forgot to mention was all these subwoofers had built in limiters that was very apparent at the middle frequencies of the tests (63Hz, namely).

    • @Subway2400
      @Subway2400 3 роки тому

      @@ErinsAudioCorner Yes, it's not surprising that they have a volume limiter. But do they all have such an agressive high-pass filter ?

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому

      @@Subway2400 without measuring the actual amplifier's outputs I can't say for sure. All I can provide (and have on my sheet) is the frequency response.

    • @Subway2400
      @Subway2400 3 роки тому

      @@ErinsAudioCorner Ok, thanks ! 😊

  • @jeffjackson865
    @jeffjackson865 2 роки тому

    Awesome review. Used this in September 2021 to buy a subwoofer! Thank you for the detailed review.

  • @jamesbennett1634
    @jamesbennett1634 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Erin, you inspired me to try hooking up two subwoofers instead of one. I had been using a KEF Kube-1 8 inch sub, with my Sony STR za2000ES receiver. The Sony has two sub outs, so I thought what the heck, I'll hook up another sub. Wow, it really improved the bass, and the integration with the main speakers. No really deeper bass, but just more full and evenly disbursed, and just as tight.
    And this was using a cheap little Sharper Image sub as the 2nd sub! I was very pleasantly surprised by the improvement. Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому

      That's sweet! Glad you took the initiative to give it a shot. And thanks for reporting back to us!

  • @wadehoopes7781
    @wadehoopes7781 3 роки тому +4

    I build my own. My 6" passive subwoofer is my fav

    • @liana.chawngthu
      @liana.chawngthu 3 роки тому +1

      Tell me how

    • @wadehoopes7781
      @wadehoopes7781 3 роки тому +1

      @@liana.chawngthu I go to Goodwill and look for smaller computer subs that have been mistreated, or have blown speakers. I have a small stock of 4.5-6" subs from speakers I've bought or been given to me. I add my special cap filter to the driver. I custom fit the driver to the cabinet. I prefer to attach them from the inside. I also have a stock if trigger, and banana clip post terminals( if the original is damaged) that I'll attach. I also pack the cabinet with old t-shirts to damper that hollow sound. I connect it to another cabinet. Right now that little mini sub is part of a mini home theater I built for my bedroom.

  • @mikedinno8413
    @mikedinno8413 3 роки тому +67

    I understand you tested just the 10 inches but I would love to have seen the Dayton Audio SUB 1200 and the Bic America F12 thrown in there.

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +63

      Me, too. But there’s only so much $$$ I can spend at a time. I paid for all these myself.
      I hope to test those in the next round, though. This isn’t a one and done. 👍

    • @mikedinno8413
      @mikedinno8413 3 роки тому +6

      @@ErinsAudioCorner I totally understand. I look forward to it!

    • @konior21
      @konior21 3 роки тому

      @@ErinsAudioCorner should be easy to return them to Amazon

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  3 роки тому +20

      @@konior21 I'm skiddish on that. I have heard of people abusing the return policy and then being barred from making returns and left holding a lot of stuff they couldn't send back. But, hey... if you wanna buy some, send them to me for testing and then have me return them then... ;) :D

    • @earlismarks7108
      @earlismarks7108 3 роки тому +1

      Wow I was thinking the same thing!..ok ic there is a second round reviews coming up...Great!

  • @EverybodyEditsHacks
    @EverybodyEditsHacks 3 роки тому +1

    Got my Polk psw10 about 3 years ago because it was the cheapest and had good reviews on amazon. Boy was I happy with it and now this verifies my happiness.

  • @bryansu
    @bryansu 3 роки тому

    Audio Users in the world need ppl like you....Keep up the good job man...

  • @Deeky76
    @Deeky76 3 роки тому +5

    What a great review you've put together here, That Sony is just a no-no...

  • @FURognar
    @FURognar 3 роки тому +3

    I have two budget 10" subs I purchased off Craigslist for $50 and $40 respectively. Adding their SPL together, they get me below 25hz in room at reasonable levels. (Around -5db or so)
    So for only $90 I was able to fill out the low end in my room without needing a sub the size of a coffee table.

  • @hazzeedayz
    @hazzeedayz Рік тому +1

    I know this is an older video but wanted to drop by and say thanks a lot for the recommendations. Very thorough.

  • @jameswheeler7679
    @jameswheeler7679 3 роки тому +2

    Honestly because I live in a apartment the Elac may work for my application very very well put and Informative review thank you maybe one day you can provide a review on budget Intergrated Amps Update ended up purchasing the Elac and to my surprise it's perfect for my apartment thanks for the review.

  • @vanwiseman
    @vanwiseman 3 роки тому +6

    The Klipsch gain knob "goes to 11", haha!!! If it weren't for this review, I'd have picked the Klipsch based on this alone.

    • @incognito3402
      @incognito3402 3 роки тому +1

      PS Audio does that too, they are in on the joke ;)

  • @AmazonasBiotop
    @AmazonasBiotop 3 роки тому +3

    Even those cheep subs should be good candidates to:
    1. Connect to a DSP (for example miniDSP)
    1.1 What I mean is we can do all the magic that a DSP can bring.
    2. Get several instead of few more expensive ones. Connected to the DSP.
    One question is when you use DSP you can/want to use a fletcher munson/jbl curve or whatever.
    Those curves uses several dB gain at the 2 lowest octaves.
    That mean that a lot more energy (read watts) is needed.
    The difficult question is if the power in the sub's has enuf power in that type of setup?

    • @one2moja1
      @one2moja1 3 роки тому

      In my opinion, if someone is buying these subs, they wouldn't bother with DSP....but it's just an opinion of course.

    • @AmazonasBiotop
      @AmazonasBiotop 3 роки тому

      @@one2moja1 good opinion.
      But buying expensive subwoofers that has a DSP built in is a waste. When the DSP is in the "wrong" location in your system.
      If you want to get a better integration with your mains.
      If you want to apply/try many different high level crossovers even on your mains
      If you want to have the ability to adjust all the frequencies that also your mains play
      If you want to get a digital input as a DAC with your DSP...

  • @ivannicholas5029
    @ivannicholas5029 3 роки тому +1

    Pretty glad I got two Polk PSW10s. Awesome output with movies.

  • @bat__bat
    @bat__bat 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this comparison. I've had the Polk for years now and I still smile when I crank it up after not listening for a few days. I'm wondering if it can be made even better with a minidsp or Dayton dsp

  • @sandlmv8301
    @sandlmv8301 3 роки тому +9

    Looking at the graphs, the Yamaha and the Elac had the most consistent specs across the board, closely followed by Polk. It's a huge shame that the Yamaha doesn't have a crossover. The Elac is a huge suprise.

    • @Packer1290
      @Packer1290 2 роки тому +1

      ELAC is well respected in the audiophile community. I’m surprised they even make something at this price point.

  • @jameswheeler7679
    @jameswheeler7679 3 роки тому +6

    Good stuff: I have been looking for a budget subwoofer for the last few months and I still haven't made up my mind

  • @damienblack1734
    @damienblack1734 Рік тому

    great review, very informative and objective reporting using actual data. Thinking I'm gonna go with the Elac.

  • @harveylin3548
    @harveylin3548 3 роки тому

    I just had the Sony sub for a day, already decide to return it. Compared to my 8' Klipsch sub that came out of a HTIB setup, it sounds like something that you could expect for exactly $100 bucks on sale. I already ordered the Dayton audio 10' on parts express and see how much better it gets, and returning the Sony ones. If both sound about the same, then I will save up and buy something that at least costs $300 bucks. People are saying the Dayton audio 10' are comparable to something that costs around #300 which is twice their cost, so I will see how it pans out when parts express finally ships it to me when it come back on stock.

  • @estyloclasico2072
    @estyloclasico2072 3 роки тому +5

    OMG ❤️me encantan that collection

  • @hifiman4562
    @hifiman4562 3 роки тому +5

    I have that Klipsch sub. The plate amp went bad so I ordered a Emotiva amp for an external power source. Wow did the sound quality improve. It's a night and day difference. That plate amp was not worth it.

    • @jesterscorner879
      @jesterscorner879 3 роки тому

      Klipsch budget subs are notorious for early plate amp failure. I had a Sub-12 that had the same problem. I won't touch another Klipsch sub for that fact alone. Over the last 10 years or so they have really cut corners on quality control.

  • @ICP1SBJ
    @ICP1SBJ 2 роки тому

    back in 2018 I picked up a Polk Audio PSW505 12-Inch Powered Subwoofer for $199 but shortly after I bought it they raised it to $300+. I love it and it has tons of bass. Good video though.

  • @RoguePC4U
    @RoguePC4U 3 роки тому +2

    I went with two of these cheap Elac SUB1010's after watching this video. They replaced a single, but fancier dual driver $600 Elac (SUB3010)... and they sound WAY better! I'd definitely agree with the recommendation of dual subs, totally worth it.