Alienware AW3423DW vs LG C2 OLED vs Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 vs Neo G7
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I've been bouncing around youtube watching monitor videos and your channel clears the clutter. Fantastic videos, well done!
Just picked up a Neo G7 today because I wanted a 4k monitor to go with my 4080 and needed something I could use for both work and gaming. Have to say turning down an OLED was a tough choice but these Neo series seem like the best bet for anyone not interested in maintaining an OLED screen or multitasking for work. Microcenter running a great deal for the Neo G7 at about 800 right now.
Did you end up liking it? My only worries are the aggressive curve and blooming with local dimming enabled. Would love to know your thoughts.
@@sleepssL Blooming is unnoticeable when set to auto and the curve is very easy to enjoy, since you did not need to swivel your head to take things in.
Wanna know something crazy? I got a Neo G7 32 inch curved monitor the other day at best buy for $230… the lady said she had never seen a discount like that in her life. I bought it quickly and ran out extremely happy 😂
@@jamesbaka1206you probably got the old one.
neo g7 at 400usd right now, should i grab or wait ?
Incredible comparison! Super technical, with easy to understand descriptions and all the info I could need to compare which one I want! Thanks!… Still can’t decide tho..
So happy you put this video out last night I was up till 2am looking at all 4 of these trying to see which I like best. Your amazing and so is the videos thank you for all the time you put in.
Finally! Been researching this all month and finally here’s the head to head comparisons!
Is the prize give away from the other comment to me really from hardware unboxed or a scam?
Thanks for the informative content on these videos, Tim. I bought a Spyder X and followed your monitor calibration tutorial and it has been a game changer. The LG C2 is a TV, would you consider doing a video on how to calibrate a TV using popular colorimeters as well?
Can the SpyderX calibrate OLEDs?
I've come back to this video multiple times. Thanks again
Ordered the LG C2 42” for my office and it arrives on Thursday! Super pumped
How is it?
I know this is a 1 year old post but, how tall are you? At 5ft 7 inches tall, I found the LG C2 42 to be to big in the height department, at least since it has no curve.
More great content! I'll jump into the OLED space as soon as someone makes a 4k, 27 or 32" 144Hz monitor.
Because that extra 24Hz makes all the human perceptible difference right? ;)
Only for movies/games it's OK. For PC no, only QD-OLED, LCD.
Trust me the 34inch is the best when you try it you cant go back
@@eldenlord5326 :) Yes, it can be true for a lot of people. 32:9 will be even better and after working on it or playing on it, you won't go back to 16:9 or 21:9. It's really unbelievably immersive. If it were qd-oled 32:9 with the same level of brightness around 800 nits (real scene not 2-5% HDR window), it would be the best experience ever :))
@@socialreport2836 we never get what we want all monitors have problems we only wish for the ultmate monitor
A while ago you made a great video for using DisplayCAL to calibrate a variety of different panels. I'd love to know if you have any additional tips for calibrating QD-OLED panels using the same software and hardware.
Thank you. Just what I've been thinking in my head. Good timing.
Could the scanlines on the G8 be due to wonky FRC? I've seen that on some 6-bit+FRC panels, not sure how valid that is for 8-bit+FRC.
Hey Tim, since we have a dedicated monitor channel, can we get a video on the state ultrawides? Maybe a basic breakdown of the options on the market worth considering, and what's coming in the future. Seems like the UW market has been pretty quiet for a while and I'm really hoping that we see more mid-priced options hit the market in the near future(my personal budget is $400-$600 for a 1440 120+, but the 'right' monitor can certainly influence that).
LOVE that OLED Alienware - but dat OLED price tag though, and the locked firmware is tough to swallow with that price(this would be a pretty damn long term purchase for someone like me, if that ever happened)
OLED will continue to decrease in price, as will monitors with increasing numbers of FALD zones. IMO, I would not purchase a display right now. HDR is seriously awesome and it'll be impossible for me to go back to an SDR-only setup (it's like a performance-free graphics upgrade - games with proper HDR support look absolutely *stunning* on an OLED)
One NEGATIVE I've found with my OLED is that it is NOT GREAT when playing games below 90FPS. All LCDs & OLEDs use a "sample-and-hold" method of displaying frames. On an LCD, there's a sort of natural motion-blur due to the slower pixel response times. On an OLED however, with the near-instant response times, this can result in a sort-of "stuttering" appearance to the image when doing things like quickly rotating an in-game camera. The C1's black-frame-insertion can help mitigate this in certain situations.
Secondly, OLEDs are still lacking in total brightness capability. When it comes to something like displaying HDR content it's not really a problem because OLED can also display TRUE blacks, resulting in an extremely large perceptible contrast. But if you will frequently be using your display in a very bright room then OLED may not be the best choice for you (YET! They're getting better every year and the new QD-OLED panels are about 20% brighter than last year's panels)
Also note that a _21:9 3440x1440 UW_ is roughly 26% more pixels than _16:9 2560x1440_ resolution and requires a good bit more horsepower to run at higher FPS. On the other hand, it's also roughly HALF the resolution of full _3840x2160 4k_.
When I buy a display I expect to get *AT LEAST* five good years out of it. I did a LOT of research before I purchased my C1 OLED in regards to burn-in, "future-proofing," etc and I'm extremely pleased with the purchase.
yes please! Am currently shopping for an ultrawide and would love Tim the Monitor Guru's thought on all the options out there.
@@erikhendrickson59 what about poor folks like me who have never had a monitor and have been gaming on laptop screens. Sad. I think a good approach is to buy a good trusty mid range and bang for buck fast IPS today and wait for 2-4 years for OLED to become mainstream.
they all pretty much use the same panels
There's an MSI version coming with the same panel, might drive down prices a bit and it might offer a flashable firmware too, so fingers crossed on that one. Also, if the subpixel structure or burn-in is a problem to you there's a flat panel AOC ultrawide with a very high number of zones, might be worth looking in to as well. I think there's some more miniLED stuff coming up but who knows when that will really release?
Otherwise, previously premium displays like the lg 34GN850 are massively coming down in price due to the advent of good HDR monitors. Actually, that monitor would be my top recommendation for you, since it's way more reasonably priced now and offers great response times.
Love this overview. I’m sure there is a general interest in 1440p VS 4K in 2022 for gaming and productivity work, at 27” and 32”.
I know other channels did this last year in regards to gaming specifically, but it seems like it’s time for an update.
Some people insist there is a visible difference in things like text clarity between 4K and 1440p at 27”. Some don’t see it. For 32” more claim to notice a difference, but some regard it as minimal.
I can see how this would be the case for FPS gaming, but visuals showing the difference for things like text clarity would be much welcomed.
4K all the time. The text sharpness and clarity is massive improvement. After going 4K there is no going back.
@@Jimmy9Bazooka depends on screen size...4k at 24" is the best..4k at 48" tv looks like 1080p
@@DarkPhychic the op literally specified the sizes: 27 and 32. I have 28
It's a myth that "27 inch is bad for quality" it clearly isn't. It's totally fine, People love making assumptions without actually knowing a thing.
@@DarkPhychic 4k at 48" is fairly close to 1440p
I got C2 48" for 2 weeks on my table and is amazing.Bought it for 940€ in Slovakia.Im using it for games, films, youtube, not as monitor for web browsing and working.I was little scared for big diagonal from beginning but Im not complaining.Probably go to hang on the wall (15cm farther from my eyes) for better use.
You don't need to wall mount 42 inch display... You can just get table mount with 2 joints and move it however you want... Upward, backwards, forwards downwards... Heck you may even pull it off as portrait if the arm is tall enough and yet arm stand costs like 50-80 bucks for the stronger more sturdy ones.
I have the Alienware AW3423DW and I agree with tim about the blacks not being full blacks when there are light sources around in front of the screen. It makes it seem like the oled blacks get washed out to grey. but if you turn off all the lights in the room it becomes super black again. Kinda sucks but i already made the purchase and i'm decently happy with it. I'm just gonna have to move the lamp around in my room lol
I feel like I'm the only person who likes gaming in pitch black rooms for complete immersion.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Yeah it’s fun but will f up your eyes over time
1 thing about the AW3423DW that I'd say makes it usable for desktop work is that it has a 3 year burn in warranty, so if your someone who upgrades their monitor within a 3 year (like me) window the burn in is less of an issue
I just use my old monitor for heavy desktop work.. I love the AW it's incredible for movies and games, and is fine for short-term desktop work, but for long-term desktop work (many hours) I'd rather just use LCD.
I didn’t know this channel existed! Thank you algorithm! Was trawling HU channel yesterday for the latest monitor videos.
How good is this shoot out selection. Been looking at these exact same monitors for my next upgrade although should probably just save some cash and get the original g7 1440p 32 240hz.
Shame LG don't do a 32" version of the C2 OLED. 42" is way too big for my desktop.
You can ultrawide mode it
I love the curve on the odyssey monitors. It’s awesome and helps fit a 32inch a bit better on my desk
Finally a video about high end monitors against each other. Want to see a video of the new ultra wide vs Alienware AW3423DW when it finally gets released
Useful review - I was strongly considering getting a couple of the Alienware OLED displays to replace the 42" LG IPS screen and 27" Dell Ultrasharp I currently use working from home - but burn in is definitely a concern, as is text clarity. The Samsung Neo Odyssey 49 was another contender, but it seems that is plagued by a host of issues like flickering, odd colour reproducton and problems with the localised dimming. Guess I'll hold off and see what 2023 has to offer.
I can say that Neo G9 is really good. I bought it recently, only 1 dead pixel but I can't even see it. HDR and color is amazing with latest firmware but you'll obviously need beefy GPU. I also have the old 27CHG70, it had ghosting, flickering and panel problems when it's cold. Neo G9 has none of it. Only negative is plastic sounds when it gets hotter or colder :D
@ Thanks. I guess most people only say something when something is wrong, so that will make up most of what you see online. I'll have a look around and, maybe if there's a decent deal in the Black Friday sales, I'll take the plunge.
I am sooo tempted by the M32U. Built in kvm is just sooo nice. Really wish that would become more standard. Saves so much desk clutter and you don’t need two devices to switch between devices.
It's probably the best monitor overall, sans those who must have the irritating babycare that is the Alienware UW. Good luck getting one that isn't broken, or with more dead pixels than live ones. A friend of mine in the UK had to return...SIXTEEN of them (lol) just to get one without broken levels of everything.
The samsung g70a is good as well but like the m32u, hdr is pointless. The g70a also doee not have the best display port support but hdmi 2.1 works really well.
Absolutely amazing video, I enjoy listening to your monitor breakdowns. The level of detail that you put into these comparisons and reviews are in a league of their own.
I may be totally biased here, but I love my AW3423DW. The monitor works great for my usage case which is primarily desktop gaming, and is such a massive step up from a majority of "normal" monitors. The HDR, true blacks, and overall width of the monitor make games feel significantly more immersive than with an IPS panel at night where you can see the glow, or the "gray" blacks. I actually upgraded from an AW2721D which I found myself super impressed by due to the high refresh rate and G-Sync ultimate module. When I saw the 3423DW was being released though, I knew I had to have it. QD-OLED technology in monitor size, with 175HZ refresh rate is a crazy combo on paper, and is as good as it sounds IMO. Dell QC and support can suck sometimes though (speaking from experience with the 3423DW, my 2721D, and my M15 R6 all having varying issues) which I think is honestly the biggest drawback to this monitor.
I think the C2 is fantastic in its own way, but the size wouldn't work for my setup at all, so the 3423DW was the logical choice for me.
What do you think about the text clarity issue with the AW3423DW? I'm thinking of buying this monitor but I get worried when I hear people say that text isn't very sharp. I intend to use the monitor not just for games but also for work, whcih requires reading a lot of text.
@@MajinVegeto89 The text clarity threw me off initially, but now I don’t even notice it when using the monitor. I haven’t used cleartype or any type of supplement to fix the text clarity because it became a non issue so fast for me.
i enjoyed watching this review, this channel deserves more subscribers.
Great comparison video Tim!
Watching this on my brand new Black Friday AW3423DW and I couldn't be happier - well, I could if there was a fix for the text issue (only noticeable - and it is noticeable - with light text on dark background, which sucks a little bit if you like everything on darkmode) but it is a superb monitor even coming from the very good x34 Predator which is the same size (usually like a size increase but the AW more than makes up for it in other ways).
The initial thing that strikes you is just how black the blacks are. Numerous times I have assumed my monitor is turned off.
First thing I did was watch Alien HDR and was half giggling to myself seeing how realistic the torch lights etc. looked. It is quite weird to be almost squinting when something bright shines into the camera.
Would highly reccomend the AW, esp. with the apparant lack of burn-in issues/the 3 yr burnin in warranty but, just to cause more headaches for anyone trying to figure out what to go for, OLED black levels mean that it may just be worth getting a larger 16:9 4k oled monitor for productivity whilst playing games in ultrawide/1440p with black bars above and below. In a dark room you wouldn't notice. I tried doing this with an IPS 4k 16:9 but it just doesn't work, you really do feel the black bars. Something to consider...
Great comparison video, something I've been looking for in a while! One general question, why is it you always say the full name, rather than just abbreviate it to "the G8, the G7, the AW"? I have to say I sometimes lose track of which monitor your mentioning when you say Alien Ware AW3423DW and the ...
Agree!
Tim you mentioned the weak factory calibration of the Samsungs Neos in a few videos. Do you have a guide to better calibrate them?
Thankyou, Great content yet again. Have you heard any news on the MSI MEG 342C QD-OLED?
I was looking at these 4, but I wanted a 4k so the Alienware was a no go and the TV way to big for my desktop and so I got the g7. It's amazing
In general if you own a computer the best monitor is better than the better than it oled tv, computing on oled is simply not good
You should also review the Samsung QN90b 43 Inch TV. It has similar tech to the Neo G8 but may have better QC simply because it was made to be a TV. It's the mini LED counterpart to the LG C2 42 inch : meant to be a TV but because of it's inputs, VRR and high refresh rate and small size, suitable to be a PC monitor.
it is really good monitor but has less dimming zones, heats a lot
hey Tim, could you possibly do a tutorial on how to colour tune the g7 neo for the best colour accuracy?
Hello I get soon a new PC with an Nvidia 4080. Does the Neo G8 support Gsync? Or will I see tearing with it? What about the OLED G8?
I just got my Neo G8, and I am very happy with it! It is at 240Hz, and I don't see any scan lines, dead pixels, or dark/brown spots. It might just be because I'm getting older, and my eyes aren't as good as they once were. I use a VESA mount, so I don't have to worry about the wobble. I don't even notice the heavy matt finish. It sure made The Division 2 look amazing. I see all kind of new details I missed before. I don't know if it's because of the 4K or the HDR or both. I think I'm going to keep the G8 as I don't see any defects with it so far.
there was a bad batch during the launch, amazon had them too, they sold them at big discount, i think $1099. on reddit users are reporting no scanlines with new batches.
The G8 has a semi matt finish so it's actually almost as good as glossy without the poor reflection performance. The g7 on the other hand has a matt finish.
I have the LG C2 and use it for gaming and productivity. After spending a while getting the settings right, I am finding it really good. I love how much space there is for my workflow, and games look stunning. I've heard that burn-in on the C1 wasn't really an issue, so I am hopeful that it won't be a problem for the C2. Also, being able to get rid of my stacked monitors has made my setup so much cleaner!
I have one too but I am still tuning settings for gaming and content playback.
I could use a recommendation of a general setting where I can start from. I can’t quite get my darkest blacks and brightest whites in balance to provide the eye-popping images many have experienced with the LG C2 42”
There's a video by TFT central on settings for the C2, and Tom the Tech Chap also had a settings section in his video I think. Otherwise there is a reddit post called "How to access LG Service Menu without the Service Remote", and that details how to turn off the auto dimming. Turning on HDR in Windows makes a big difference as well. I think that getting familiar with the settings and learning what they do is a big part of it, turning off the auto dimming, turning on HDR in Windows gets you most of the way there.
I also stopped my PC from auto sleeping, but set the screensaver to be a blank screen after 15 mins...which stops the TV from losing signal and going to the super annoying gallery images.
Got an update for us bud after 3 months?
@YoDaOne4Meee I have the c1 and its great for gaming. I could use it for office stuff but that's just not me.
Is C2 perfect for content creation especially video editing? How about its color accuracy?
I was looking for a video like this! tough choices
Do you have a full power consumption chart for all the monitors you've tested?
Hey Tim, are there any other brand QD-Oled monitors on the horizon that you know of?
Im not Tim but so far i only know MSI with the MEG 342C.
I am also not Tim, but to add what @Hate regelt already mentioned: Samsung Odyssey g8qnb
I was REALLY torn between the LG C2 42” and the AW3423DW. I ended up pulling the trigger on the C2 and I can safely say it was the best decision. I’m running most games on Ultrawide 21:9 mode with a custom resolution of 3840x1600. So basically playing at 4K resolution with the top and bottom cut out and in Ultrawide format. The experience is incredible. With the Alienware I would’ve been limited to just the 21:9. With the LG I get that plus 16:9 for games that don’t support Ultrawide. That and of course all the other sweet stuff that comes with a tv.
Are you able to use hdr doing the custom resolution?
Did the same, I bought it from Amazon, Im waiting for the package to arrive, LG C2 all the way 👍
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Here’s a review and compare of those monitors 👍
i choose to get both have a 65 lg g1 for couch gaming and a pg32uqx for playing fps games and damn this monitor blinded me when i looked at a phantom explode in halo infinite
@KirCh4rT UMM the g1 is a 65 inch tv no way am i gonna play an fps 2 meters away from the screen
oh, perfect picks for comparison. been looking at these.
How about non-gaming monitors? Such as for video editing or just for work? Thanks.
This is exactly why I purchased both the C1 OLED and the AW3423DW.... I feel like although pricey, it offers the best of everything that I was looking for in a gaming/productivity/entertainment monitor setup. The AW is an unmatched stand alone gaming monitor.. The only thing I would want is a 38inch version of it. other than that... It's the best gaming option in my opinion
I have this exact setup, and im very happy with it too. I think ideally for me, I would have gotten the c2 42inch (the c1 48inch on sale was half the price at the time) and I agree, would love the AW to be 38inches. These would have been the best sizes for a the c2 to be mounted above the AW for me. We are lucky either way, these are top tier!
Received mine today and i can assure anyone on the fence about this monitor that it is godlike gaming monitor. Because it is oled 1440p looks really close to 4k
I returned my Alienware AW3423DW because of the 2 annoying fans inside, ancient ports, bad reflection and poor subpixel layout. If you do gaming + watch videos only then the Alienware might be the ultimate monitor, but if you do 8 hours of office work a day it's a big fat no. Switched to a 42C2 and much happier now.. it was also cheaper at 950 euros.
I'm waiting for a 38" UWQHD+ QD-OLED with 3840 x 1600 resolution. Hopefully combined with USB-C PD >65w, HDMI 2.1, better reflection handling, no gsync module (so no fans) and better subpixel layout to combat color fringing.
@@st3yn how close do you sit to the c2? can you still play fps's within normal monitor distances?
@@st3yn How do you find reflections on the C2?
The LG C2 is 999 euro in The Netherlands. these oled tv's are litterally the only tech that is cheaper here than in the states. Im so pondering it.
Great comparison. Would've loved to see the Inzone M9 thrown in there.
I really appreciate the video and the channel as a whole. So helpful. I hope at some point you will consider reviewing the newest Corsair 1440 240hz monitor. Ive been trying to find a good all around monitor with good color and contrast and the first iteration of Corsairs 1440 monitor did pretty well in your review. Hopefully, the 240hz has made it even better...
I love how almost everything is better with the C2, and yet it's $400 cheaper. Why are monitors so bleeping expensive for what you get?
Not exactly, G8 has a better PPI, and better antireflective coating which is important for productivity.
after all, curved displays are more ergonomic for productivity to me.
But in terms of price, yeah! prices are getting crazy! I got a deal for my G8 on Amazon though.
I'm really digging the 42 OLED, I mean not yet, but when it gets near $2k Aussie, that's definitely on the cards, one day. The 60hz strobbing of the C2s though, I don't know if I want that or not, need to watch more Monitor Unboxed stuff I think, might be explained here somewhere (or maybe in the future, I think it has been covered in a previous HUB review).
LG C2 42 $1380 on black friday sale right now
@@habibmate just clicked here to tell him same thing. good bloke
@@habibmate I just ordered my c2 for 850 including taxes from amazon and damn that's a massive price decrease in just 3 weeks if what you say is true about it being 1300+ when you saw it.
@@kkb8510 different currency
@@MLGenie I see
My question is I have the Samsung G9 and I was thinking of the G8 for 4K but I am really looking at the Alienware monitor but I want no Pixels I have 4090 GPU.
Should I keep what I have or change to either of the other 2
I love your reviews. Will you please review the Sony A90K 42”? I was set on a C2 until I found a like-new, open box Sony for only $1012 from Best Buy. The PS5 looks absolutely incredible on it. I used to play on my LG CX 65” but have moved the PS5 into my gaming room.
We really need a 27" or 32-34" oled
I hope lg listens and release these sizes too
It would be perfect if the c2 had these sizes
How could a TV be listed as 27 inch? Explain. Its not a monitor. Its a TV.
I'm shopping for a new monitor so this content is great. I really don't want a curved display and the LG is too large for my setup. What flat HDR gaming monitors in the 27" or 32" size are coming before the end of the year? I think you mentioned there are a lot more options coming soon.
AOC has displays in 27" 175Hz 1440p, 240Hz 1440p and 34" 175Hz flat ultra-wide, all with a high-zone miniLED backlight and HDR1000 performance out right now. Then you have a bunch of g-sync ultimate displays coming, like 300Hz high zone 1440p displays coming from MSI, AOC and ViewSonic and 4K 32" 160Hz displays coming from Acer, Asus and HP.
Have u ever seen a curved one ?
@@bratosin1 yes
LG 32GQ950-B
I was thinking to get the neo G8 instead of the AW3423DW, but some neo owners say that it has scanlines problems and some flickering and im not sure if those problems just show up at 240hz.. can someone help me telling me if those problems are true.. im not sure which one to choose yet.
I've been looking forward to this!
Neo G7 would be an instant buy if it is flat…
Alienware QD-OLED for a PC gaming monitor. LG C2 42 for mixed use with PC and consoles.
And the G7 if you also work on it/don't have the space.
From someone who’s used all, the AW3423DW, C2, and Neo G7 are amazing. Neo G8 stinks.
Don't forget if you don't mind larger TV sizes, the QD-OLED TV's from Sony and Samsung are better than LG
@@wile123456 not for gaming
@@matthewrezuke8130 they support all the same features but with vastly better colours and brightness.
Thats a great video, i just waited to hear your opinion on this monitors. Thanks! Recommendation: when you read down all the generall specs of a monitor in the beginning, it would be a help to write them down on the side. Maybe it's my shortcommings as a non native english speaker but it's a information overload in a short time XD name, Hz, width...
Hello, how do you take ufo test photos? Would love to make it with my CRT :)
The 34" UW monitors are the best choice for people with high end GPUs that want to max out the graphics and enjoy the eye candy while playing offline games or for people that do content consumption or "creation" (to some extent) as well, For me personally the AW3422DW was the perfect monitor in the whole existence.
It's just perfect in everyway.
yeah ultrawide gaming is just so much more fun than 16:9
As a full time coder, I have no issues with text clarity of the AW3423DW when using cleaytype tuner. Though I bought the monitor primarily for HDR gaming. Also you failed to mention the AW3423DW comes with a 3 year warranty for any burn in issues or dead pixels.
didnt they start out with 5?
Still , 3 years warannty is shit for the amount of cost of this monitor. In general there's should be laws forcing tech companies offering the at least 5 years warranty by default when you buy tech products of over 1000+ euros. But since we as customers we allaowing those garbage capitalistic policies to passing out its our fault.
How do these panels handle 1440p downsizing? Tempted to upgrade my monitor but can't reach 4k or ultrawide 1440p yet.
Hi man great video do you know how much ms is on the lg c1 tv 48 inch?
The shitty Gsync module and fan noise are a problem with the Alienware.
Having a loud monitor would be way too annoying.
They need to drop the Gsync module so they can drop the active cooling.
Then drop the price $200 that the module adds on.
Then without the limitations of the shitty module, put HDMI 2.1 on.
The fan isn't that loud.
When you have any kind of sound while using your PC you'll never hear it.
But yes i agree it shouldn't be a thing especially at that price
@@Lxcx333 you're either lucky or deaf, on forums many including me have reported fans sometimes being quite loud, especially after many hours of usage
@@amerkiller1995 i only got my opinion of from reviews and a frien has it as well and i played a few times on it as well.
maybe it's a thing only some modules have. i also didn't watch into any forums for that but when it's really that loud than ... damn that shouldn't be like that
@@Lxcx333 some reviews mentioned it, quite a few complaints on reddit about it too, my monitor has been quiet first few days but recently i can hear it, like a heavy nonstop HVAC sound, arranged a return today and new one should be this/next week, if it's the same bs with the fan i'll get the C2
The fan on my AW3423DW is imperceptible unless I literally put my ear to the back of it and even then I can barely hear it. I have a feeling people got faulty units.
Heads up: AW QDOLED deliveries are getting much faster. Mine took a total of 1 week from order to received. (USA). Same for many others in reddit and discord.
Did u Express shipping or standard
@@enajarro21 The only free option. I didn't see the name.
@@organicmechanic2477 Damm I paid for express
@11:06 you said the neo monitors had around 10ms of delay but your chart shows the G8 has 5.5. Is your chart messed up or did you misspeak?
Hey guys, I have a question concerning the LG, if the C2 is connected to my pc, when I use smart tv for Netflix or Prime Video, can I hear it with the headset connected to my computer ? Thank you
Can you try using a custom resolution on the LG C2 and turning it into a 21:9 display? It should suit the oled ability to completely turn off when not in use.
Yes you can set whatever you want :)
@@gpodobas i wonder how it will looked compared to the alienware ultra wide oled
You don't need custom resolution. It has 21:9 and 32:9 modes that can be enabled on the TV level.
@@MrChomiq not quite…sure, you *can* just toggle that on the tv and call it a day, but you may not want to do that. By default, the resolution that LG considers “native” for 21:9 is 3840x1080, which is not really ideal. I went ahead and added a custom res of 3840x1600 on the NVidia Control panel and it looks incredible. You only have to tweak the res once; after the initial setup every time you set the tv to 21:9 your PC will automatically switch to that custom res you created, so it’s no hassle really…
But it'd only feel good in a very dark room where I would no longer pay attention to the real scale of the display
I love my AW3423DW. I'm mainly a PC gamer, so while the lack of HDMI 2.1 was a little disappointing, it's hasn't really affected me. Much more annoying are the firmware not being user-upgradeable and the OSD not having enough color calibration options (something that could have been fixed... with a firmware upgrade). That being said, the price was very good for the quality of the monitor imo and the actual experience of gaming on it has been outstanding. Hopefully the text fringing can also be addressed down the road (I believe Microsoft just has to account for the subpixel layout in ClearType), but it hasn't really been an issue for me to be honest.
Does it have dead pixels yet?
@@TheRealSlobo Nope, no dead or stuck pixels.
AW3423DWF fixes this issue
Sell it get a g8
Strange question, but what would it take hardware wise to push 360hz in league/csgo ?
Very detailed comparison. THank you.
Man it's so hard to pick between the Alienware and the G7 Neo, especially since their cost is identical.
On one hand ultrwide, OLED perfect blacks and the motion clarity is pretty much the endgame on the Dell. On the other, the better HDR brightness, never bother about burning, much better for consoles and true 4K for media consumption, the Neo wins in there.
I...I can't chose man...
Same boat as you, you really nailed exactly how I’m feeling. One part me is like “well if I wait 1 more year for a 32 4k oled” after having waited for a decent oled option for the last few years. On the other hand I’m thinking “don’t let perfection be the enemy of good” as I’m 100% sure I would love either of them, and who knows when that spec of oled will finally release, or the price it will release at?!
@@natevonhartleben2737 yeah, luckily I’m in no hurry as my 1440p165Hz MSI is still pretty decent so when I make the jump to 4K I really want endgame performance and especially uncompromising HDR. So yeah, waiting a year or so for a 32” 4K OLED would be the best of both worlds.
Same, currently have an Alienware AW3418DW and it's been giving me trouble at times. I like ultrawide (my main setup is two ultrawides stacked on top of each other). I like the new Alienware for the QD-OLED and the familiarity of the aspect ratio. I like the Neo G7 for the 4k resolution (I'd like to use my consoles on it instead of having to go to a TV) but the curve really turns me off. 1000R in a 32" 16:9? Ew... If the Neo G7 was flat I´d buy it in a heartbeat.
@@Juandachu I actually disagree about the curve, I have a previous generation odyssey 32", idk if you've tried it at all in real life, but at least for me its extremely comfortable. I know a million people on r/monitors and stuff complain, but as someone who actually owns one, I think if people genuinely give It an honest try, for many it would be comfortable, immersive, natural, and makes a relatively large 32" monitor /feel/ a bit more digestible like a 27" but is still physically as large and as immersive as a 32"
Found an LG C2 brand new for under 1k USD after doing some searching around, and I couldn't be happier. Easily the best display I've ever used. I had a 165hz Dell S3220DGF before this and it feels almost as smooth despite the lower refresh rate.
could you share how you found such a deal?
@@jackieliu1232 Browsing ebay, surprisingly enough. It was right after Prime Week so I guess someone had some extra stock to get rid of.
It should. OLED pixels physically respond faster at any given refresh rate. Less time between transitions. Linus has a video using a high speed camera showing it. It's pretty neat
I have the Dell Monitor, too. Can't really complain, only the viewing angles are horrible, typical for a va monitor and my unit has a little bit of backlight bleed, but still i am very happy with it.
Damn here it's over $2000 USD or around $3000 AUD. Not that I have the money for one anyway but yeah it's a little ridiculous that it's 2x the price even in USD in Australia.
Got a Gigaabyte Aorus FI32U (M32U) recently. Totally love it. Will consider C2 for my next TV.
İ have the M32U which is identical but i consider upgrading to G7 and i dont know if it will be wise choice.
How is the ABL on the Neo G7 compared to LG C2? The ABL on the C2 is bothering me so I ordered a Neo G7
I'm waiting for 2nd or 3rd gen QD-OLED before I upgrade my 27" odyssey G7 , and specs wise I always thought "viewing angle" comparisons are pointless...I'm ALWAYS gonna be sitting directly in front of the monitor....
Viewing angle tests are sort of a relic of the TN era where the viewing angles were so bad that even like sitting at an angle with one arm resting on your arm rest was enough to shift colors on some particularly terrible TN panels. I guess now it’s for content sharing which who does that on a little monitor?
you would be surprised. on a big enough monitor, like the Neo G7/G8, even if you look dead center onto the screen, you can see color degradation in the corners, because you look at them from an angle.
I can tell because I read your message on a Neo G7, which I will be sending back in a day or two.
@@aaronwinter7911 I wouldn't consider the neo g7 big...it's only 32"....not even widescreen, if it's that bad then yes I'd return it.
now maybe like the G9 that's super widescreen I could see it, but for 99% of us it's a worthless metric lol.
I didn't believe I would like an ultra wide monitor until I tried one.
Same here, it made me never want to go back.
Looking for triples for sim racing.y choices are the C2 , Alienware and G7 Neo. So 3 of the 4 monitors recomputed here.
Any advice fellas? It’s awesome having so many choices, but I’m confusing myself the more research I do. 😅 Running on a 4090 so I’ll be able to take decent advantage of the demanding setup.
Can you please review the g4 I'm thinking of getting it but there are no reviews online
It is really awesome to finally seeing more OLEDs coming to the PC world. I am also torn between the 2 OLEDs, but i am going to wait a couple of months and see, if new OLED-monitors hit the market
There should be more like the AW3423DW coming soon. Both Samsung and MSI are coming out with a version. There is the Asus OLEDs coming as well but they are 42” and 48” models and being from Asus I expect them to be priced quite high and definitely higher than the LG models. I have the C2 42” and love it. I made the jump from a 1440p 144hz to 4K 120hz OLED with proper HDR. The move was definitely worth it.
@@Jaycensolo definitely an awesome upgrade! Sadly i don't have enough space for a 42 😬
@@samiyanes1598 im just waiting for a 32 inch 3840x2160p 120hz oled display, 42 inch is too big
@@Jaycensolo Sony has a Sony tax for their TV and Asus has an Asus tax for all their products
@@wile123456 I feel like the Sony tax is because of the processing that they have (at least on their Bravia TVs anyway) and the asus tax is just purely ROG RGB kind of thing that I found pretty much a seizure magnet for me
I am still happy with the G8. The scanlines are not that much of an issue as they are not something you typically see, and in desktop mode you simply can use 120hz. The 240hz is an important feat while gaming competitive. The 1000R is something I like and is a personal preference. Still the extensive review and comparison was done in a great, professional way.
i love my g8 glad youre enjoying yours...happy gaming
Also loving the G8 for all the reasons you mentioned.
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I returned my Alienware AW3423DW going from a 4K monitor to the 1440p AW3423DW was not a great experance, games seem more blurry and not as sharp you can clearly see the difference from a 4K monitor with a less sharp picture on the Alienware, input lag was also terrible on the AW3423DW along with the 21.9 aspect ratio on a 34" screen which i found with you tube video etc intolerable with black bars either side of the screen, also with NO firmware updates ever i returned it and bought the Samsung Neo G8 and i love it, HDR in much more punchier than the AW3423DW with much brighter specular highlights in HDR mode on the G8 and the colors on the Neo G8 are just as good as the Alienware in my opinion as are the inky blacks if you are sat directly Infront of it, i feel the G8 is a much underrated Monitor and it will never burn-in, the reports of burn-in on the AW3423DW on reddit already also put me off, if i ever go back to an OLED monitor it must be 4K ideally a 32" monitor with a 16.9 aspect ratio, i have the LG CX OLED and love it but OLED as a monitor with static images is asking for trouble, the tech just isn't suited for monitors in my opinion i already had mild image retention on my AW3423DW when i returned it which was undefeatable with the pixel shifter.
There are plenty i people who say they dont have scanlines at 240Hz, it might be an early batch manufacturer defect.
I am surprised to have missed this Vid until now. I hope that you will do some OLED comparisons when other Manu's start offering competing versions of the Dell Alienware AW3423DW.
Anyone know where i can get those starwars helmets in the background? @hardwareunboxed
Aaah... The AW3423DW... The quantum superposition phenomenon... It doesn't exist in this world... And yet it clearly does. I am clearly seeing it in front of my screen and hearing the person who personally touched it and experience it but yet again I can't find it anywhere in the world.
I ordered mine from Dell's website! Only another 2 months* to wait until it's delivered! 😬
*Unless they delay again...
@@TheRilonator That's what I'm saying! Like you can "purchase" it and it will say when it will be delivered... but it never gets delivered!
You just get pushed back another month or two.
I'm telling you it's quantum phenomenon... it doesn't exist... but yet... IT CLEARLY DOES. fml.
Please can you revisit the Neo G9 with the latest firmware.
Neo G9 has twice the zone density of the Neo G7.
Meh, the new G9 is coming soon apparently. 5k zones.
@@youtubevanced4900 cool, Original Neo G9 has 4096. You’d have to imagine diminishing returns too.
@@robertpatton172 oh I didn't know the current over had 5k zones as well.
Ty for the vid. Can I ask u: Whats the best monitor with real low bloom and good for all purposes: video editing, blender etc, and streaming Netflix content etc and ofc gaming. I have acer x34gs and x34 the x34 is better on corner blooming actually,besides that the x34gs has OLED quality, and I hear the the Alienware AW3423DW has problems regarding netflix/ streaming and editing resolve blender etc. what to do for me now?
is that overshoot at 240hz visible while gaming on G8?
I've been hoping for a comparison video like this for months. I'm thinking of upgrading my monitor and have it narrowed down to the 42" LG C2, and the Alienware QD-OLED. I think it would be an easy choice if the Alienware were 4K. I like the 21:9 aspect, and higher refresh of the Alienware, but the larger size and higher resolution of the LG are appealing as well. The lack of Displayport and auto-dimming are negatives for the C2. They both seem to have great HDR. I'm torn between the two. Any advice??
Wait till black Friday and see which is cheaper- that's my plan and it will probably be the C2 looking at past discounts on LG OLEDs.
I also think for a long term investment the C2 makes more sense. Sure you don't have that 3 Yr burn in warrenty but you have upgradable firmware. I reckon in a decade, the C2 will hold up better. I also don't think the lack of display port is an issue as all modern GPUs will support HDMI 2.1. Auto dimming looks like the biggest issue but there's always the option of turning it off with the service remote.
I also don't own a TV and am currently using a 27" 1440p monitor as a TV... my small apartment means having a single display pull double duty makes a lot more sense so leaning towards the C2. A lot of streaming services like BBC iplayer still don't play nice with ultrawide so 16:9 makes more sense (sure they'll be black bars in 21:9 films but I believe that's less of an issue on an OLED where the pixels switch off)
@@speng5821 Thanks for the input. I have a 3090 and I9, so I can definitely push enough frames @ 4K to justify getting a 120hz 4K panel like the C2. The point you make about future proofing is also pertinent. Upgradeable firmware can go a long way if issues arise that can be fixed at that level. LG is more likely to offer a sale price around Black Friday than Dell IMO. The Alienware QD-OLED is in such high demand that they are taking orders to be filled 2 months out. They probably won't offer a sale price if they are selling more at MSRP than they can fulfill on time. The potential for burn-in is supposed to be less on the QD-OLED and they offer the 3 year warranty, but the technology is so new that there isn't true confirmation on the reduced burn-in. I think you're right, waiting a few months is probably the best option.
@@acidwizard6528 Yeah sounds like a plan. Looking at past Black Fridays, LG usually sell their OLED's for ~2\3rds of their launch price (plus they're more likely to actually be in stock like you said!)
Yeah I'm not so sure about the whole burn in- for me I'd keep such a display for way more than 3 years anyway and there's a lot you can do to minimise burn in risk- but depends on your usage like Tim says- if its just for content consumption then you'll probably be fine but applications with static tasks bars may be an issue for prolonged periods of use.
Best of luck! 3090 will pair amazingly with the C2! I've 'only' got a 6700xt so 4k will be a bit of a stretch in many games- guess I'll just have to lean on FSR and at least the C2 gives the headroom to upgrade my GPU one day!
Wait for 4K QD-OLED. With RTX 4090 it is possible now to play AAA games in 4K with Ray Traycing. Even Cyberpunk 2077 at 80-120 fps all maxed.
I have a combination of previous generations of two of these screens (48' C1 and 1440p 240hz G7) and I feel like it pretty much covers the entire gamut of experiences I could want. For daily use and high refresh gaming, G7 hits the spot, and for anything 4K, HDR, and even Ultrawide, the C1 handles it great.
I think at a certain point I gave up trying to find my perfect monitor, since it seems like we are never gonna get a flat 16:9 ~27 inch 4k 120hz+ OLED with good HDR, which I would buy in a heartbeat (so long as its good).
We could get such a monitor in the next 2 years.
But i was looking and hoping for my dream monitor for years now as well.
The neo G8 is exactly what i wanted but ... it's samsung ...
I wait for the g8 with QD-OLED. When that one has the same panel quality as the alienware one then it's an immediate buy for me
@@Lxcx333 Well here's something you may not be aware of. QD-OLED is Samsung patented technology. Even just general quantum dot color is a Samsung thing. It's similar to LG's Nano LED. So whenever you see a monitor from another brand stating quantum dot or nano LED tech now you know they're using a Samsung or LG panel.
@@gmaxsfoodfitness3035 i am aware of that. But i said it how i did because samsung oanels are good except in samsung monitors :p
Like there are some MSI monitors with quantom dot that are nice but samsung always had problems with their monitors. So i am a bit worried that they screw up their QD-OLED monitor :)
I have a similar combo, and completely agree. This was the ideal setup for me.
For Video creator content, ( color grading) would you go for lg or alien for best colors ?
What do you do with all your purchases once you have tested and reviewed them on your channel?
I bought the Neo G8, returned it due to a flicker with the DP and scan lines at 240hz. Picked up the G7 and had it calibrated last night. Its absolutely stunning. Death Stranding and Cyberpunk both look unbelievable. The curve is a none issue as I sit fairly close. So I would recommend this monitor for gamers with a healthy budget (IE card that can push the frames to match the refresh rate and 4k native resolution) I am however concerned about long term reliability. For now its incredible.
can you post your image settings? would be thanksful
What GPU and FPS are you getting running this display? I have a 3080
Hi @TravelDude Are you still happy with the G7 after 6 months? I'm considering buying it. It's really hard to find a monitor that has ~32" 4k and good text quality for programming combined with high refresh rate and HDR for watching movies and gaming. I'll be switching from Dell S3220DGF - 32" 1440p 165 Hz curved VA - so I like this form factor, but my main problem is low resolution at only ~90 PPI, which I don't find good for working with text and multiple windows side by side.
To remove the scanline issue, get an expensive dp cable, turn on the low input lag option, and basically make it the best monitor you can get at the moment.
Is possible to remove scanline in Samsung odyssey neo 8 240hz?
@@motulautech4680 I’m pretty sure you’re responding to the answer to your own question
Are there any HDR-contenders that are 27"-32" and flat? Not curved or ultra wide. I understand there are none that match these 4x screens. But what would you recommend that is a level below but the standard sizes, aspect ratios and non- curvature I mention above?
I have a Samsung Q90R 65" tv for PS5 & Series X; so the C2 is out of question. The agressive curve on the Neo G7 & G8 are really off-putting to me. The AW3423DW is the one I'm leaning towards; but I'm hesitant about ultra wide and also the mentioned hazyness/not sharp text clarity for desktop use. I'll use my monitor mainly for games, but every now and then for work at home. Does mentions of not using it primarily for work etc. mean I shouldn't use it for that at all? Or literally just not primarily?
I heard the Neo G7 and G8 series crush a lot of black details to minimize blooming and increase black levels, and when you try and fix it with the black equalizer it looks washed out, is that accurate? and that it has a horribly accurate EOTF HDR and SDR brightness tracking where the darker levels are super crushed and the highlights are blown out from the RTINGS review
I want to see 4K 240Hz with QD-OLED and I think it's only matter of time for it to become more affordable. Also with DP 2.0 as well. Strobing. Flat definitely.
That's the dream!
43" 5160x2160 oled 240hz
At that time VAs/IPSs will be 300-400 hz and more affordable.
@@socialreport2836 they can easily make dual spec display so in 1080p 1000hz option
@@StaySic4Ever Send a link of that monitor with those specifications.
Important information for people using this video to make a decision: In the EU the C2 is already heavily discounted. I was able to buy one for 999€ from an official retailer. So it's the cheapest option out of these 4 monitors.
Yes absolute. I would alway go with the C2. I got an C1 and the 42inch Format of the C2 can fit now mostly every desk. Oled is a big upgrade.
And you can get 130€ Cashback for the 42C2 and even more on the other models!
$3000 here for a 55 inch c2 😢.
Where is that? Cheapest here is 1399 as far as I can tell.
@@Batman-bh6vw German rerailer "Gamingoase" Was where i got mine.
Perhaps I’m missing something but could you do a recommendation for gaming/productivity? You do mention productivity use throughout your reviews, but I haven’t seen a dedicated video where you discuss the trade offs between gaming performance and productivity use, and which panels you’d recommend for that use case.
Could we get a review of samsung 43qn90b? same size as the C2 42inch for 40% less price.