The hype behind this controller is insane. Reminds me of when the DDJ SX/ SZ first came out…those controllers were truly groundbreaking for their time. This takes that winning formula and pumps it up to the next level with stems. Pioneer should be VERY worried because I see this becoming the new industry standard.
Oh yes it is an amazing time, tech is just getting incredible!! I only dreamed of this 20 years ago never thinking it could or would happen!!! Now if only I had the time to have fun with it all, lol!!
Just received mine today. I started djing in the early 90s on turntables. I had to evolve from cd N-88 numark, denon 5000, denon 9000,pioneer sx2, pioneer sz2 which I love. As a mobile dj I was done carrying records, cd books. The controller has being a god sent ease of use and time savings. This controller just takes my mixing to another level when the event calls for it sweet 16 etc. Having the professional quality for regular events is a no brainer. As for as platters are concern I'm a house dj so the need to scratch won't be as important. The 8 inch jog wheels shall be plenty shouldi have to. Great review as always Mo. Over 30 years of this craft and I couldn't be more excited to get to practice on this new device from Rane.
Thx Mojaxx, I’ve been waiting for your clear & concise review on this …….you have a great ability to combine ‘technical’ with your wealth of experience & enthusiasm 👍
Excellent review Mojaxx! The Rane is a beautiful piece of kit, no doubt. I started on old school belt driven turntables before moving to Technics 1200s. I've mixed on 12s for many years before shutting down as sometimes life gets in the way. When I returned I went the controller route. Started on a DDJ400 and now use a DDJ 800 and lovin' my XDJ RX3. Coming from turntables it took a minute to get used to static jogs but once I did it was no problem. I've spun on a Rane One and love the moving platters but at the end of the day, it seems like static jogs are the way to go, now, at least for me.
I started on turn tables in the 80's. I've used both since early 2k and am comfortable with either. I actually got the Rain Four for the stems control, and being 51 yrs old, I like the light weight of it compared to the Rane One or Rev7. Now if they would get us a good carrying case for monster sized controller.
I started with a Numark Mixtrack Pro 1, then I got a DDJ SB3, which I returned for a SX2 that was on offer for a ridiculously low price. When I got the SX2, my brother gave me two turntables that I fell in love with. From there I ended up getting a mixer, and now my main setup is two turntables and a S11 mixer. I just got a Numark Mixstream Pro Go, and its ok to mix on. I wish the crossfader had a tighter cut , but its serviceable. Its especially good because you literally can take it anywhere and start Djing. Cord free! The speakers on it sound surprisingly good and get very loud. I'm happy with it, but my bread and butter is two turntables and a mixer for sure!
Great review Mojaxx as always. I had turntables on and off from about 85 until 2007 I have went on to Denon 3700s and now SC6000m. I think spinning platters just feel more fun and as somebody who is 55 years old and only use them at home these days, fun is the only thing that matters. Bought the 6000ms after your review and same with Xone 96. Always fancied an Allen & Heath mixer. Very happy with everything but still miss the effects after using time code in Traktor with my 3700s and an X1.
I was on the fence about getting the Rane 4. I was considering the ddj100srt but after this review, I decided on the Rane 4. I just ordered mine. I think Rane is a no brainer because of it's innovative features and the overall beautiful look. The ddj100srt is a couple of years old whereas the Rane 4 is fresh out the kitchen. Thank Mojaxx for the review. Keep up the good work.
I think this is the new standard for Mobile, Corporate, Wedding DJs. Pioneer really have a lot of catch up on with stems. Split stems just opens up huge potential for elevating private events. One you add in the ability to map the pad buttons to Soundswitch or Daslight functions, it really does take it to another level of 'on the fly' control. The workflow potential on the Rane Four is outstanding.
NOT! like he said: this can be dangerous in the wrong hands. I can maybe see a little tiny bit of this being done at a wedding but is like scratching...less is more. and im speaking in the wedding scene.
I think another reason for the static platters is cost. Moving jog wheels cost more to make as they have moving parts and a good, strong motor to keep the wheels running consistently and quickly from zero to the set bpm speed. If Rane wanted to keep costs down, then it was a no brainer to use static jog wheels and especially as it would make this controller lighter and many Dj's are happy using static jog wheels. Judging by the very reasonably price of this controller, I'd say Rane knew what it was doing when it ditched the spinning platters on this particular controller.
Yesss Much Needed Mojaxxx take on the Rane 4! Stems is the future & now our Present with the Rane 4 🙌🏼 stems split with individual faders is next level! That's why I had to order one! Can't wait to be able to remap my SRT 1000 while pioneer takes their time figuring out their life.. Rev 7, S11 & SRT needs to have a Stems 4ch, paddle fx (multiple channels at the same time), Stems split, dedicated Stems buttons, mechanic srt or 3000 (cdj) jogs. 32 pads(8x8x8x8) w/ pad mode screens. Locking IE, 15lbs, controller baby! 🙏🏼🤞🏼🙌🏼
Great review Mojaxx love how you used those FX. Can’t wait to get my hands on the Rane Four. I started with Numark ndx400. Now I have the Denon dj sc5000 and sc5000M for home use. When I do gigs I use the Rane One. I like both but when I like to be more creative or using lots of FX I prefer jog wheels and for scratching motorized platters.
Great video thanks for doing such a great job putting this together. The effects section alone is a huge step forward - I had the Rane 70 mixer and ended up selling it in part because I didn’t really like the effects (or filters for that matter) but this looks excellent. I started on CDJ 1000s, moved to vinyl (so I could be a ‘real DJ’ lol), and then started using controllers and well. Have gone through so many controllers since then, and as for platters, I prefer spinning platters or mechanical platters over capacitive ones. The reason I say that is that on both pioneer and denon controllers the capacitive platters would stop working randomly (and then work again). This happened on four controllers I had over the years and when searching on UA-cam it seemed to be fairly common. I’m currently using a ddj-srt1000 because I wanted the mechanical platters (they work perfectly). As for the feel of the platters while DJing, I don’t have too much of a preference since (when they are working) all are pretty responsive.
Great review! I really hope I will like these Jogwheels. My first was CDJ-1000mk2 and I love the grip of them. I rock the LC6000 now and it’s far better than the SC5000 but I love the grip of the CDJ’s. I really hope InMusic releases stickers or replace platters with better rubber grip surface for the Jogwheels. RANE Four is my new controller. Can’t wait to start playing with it.🎶
As always thank you for your honest review unlike some other reviewers. Greatly appreciated. I started djing with turntables and moved on to controllers and even though I currently own a controller with static platters I’m waiting for RANE to come out with RANE one version 2 or a RANE 4 with moving platters. Until then I may consider buying this unit cause for the price and features is fantastic.
In my reaction to your initial impressions video, I was worried about the possible busy and intricate workflow of this device. Part of that still stands I must say, especially the last part with scratching terms. But I must admit I'm very impressed by the pad LEDs and stems possibilities, that's golden. As for platters, switching from analog beatmatching on the spinning wheels of the SL 1200 MK2 to digital beatmatching on controller platters was something I had to get used to. For digital beatmatching, I actually prefer using pitchbend buttons now over pitch fader and platter adjustments. But this has more to do with digital vs analog beatmatching, not so much platters or spinning wheels IMO.
Man... the DDJ-1000 owned the 4- channel controller lane for a bit. The here is a LEVEL Up major. It'll be interesting to see the rekordbox stems. PS I'm back on turntables w/ Rane 12s × STEMS w/ DJM-s5 (from the 1000) & loving my DJ life
I wish you had of commented on the 3 mm plastic that's glued on top of the unit and the front. You can see the saw cut on the edge of the plastic and the top corners are super sharp. It doesn't feel like there is much metal in this.
I started on turntables and actually went backwards to using controllers. I think more for mobility. I never had the cash to have more toys than one main piece of gear. I've been all over trying different patters on controllers. Vestax 380, 300. Numark NS6, NI Kontrol S4,Roland DJ505, Denon HS5500. Even tried the Numark CDX. Having a turntable type feel is always what I wanted in a controller. Closest to achieve that for me is my current Rane One. But with the additional stems possibilities on the Rane Four. I might have to give up the motorized platters!
Do you think the other 16 FX might get ignored, once you've saved your 6 favorites on the buttons? I feel like switching an effect mid-session is still a little cumbersome, what has your experience been? Would be nice if they could add banks, maybe a shift+click of the FX Assign buttons or something to give you 4 banks of FX. Anyways great review @mojaxx!
That’s a fair point, although are many DJs really using more than 6 FX in any given set? I certainly don’t, probably 4 at most, to be honest, even with all of the ones on here at my disposal.
Still have Turntables but copped a Vestax VCi 300 for travel. Upgraded that to Roland 505 and finally the Rane One. Static jogs are cool and super smooth for mixing, but nothing beats moving platters for Hip-Hop style Open Format DJng. Would definitely upgrade to the next Rane controller with moving platters, but honestly you can do ALOT with the One and prepping your edits ahead of time.
I like most of what I see. Serperate jump controls is cool (hate the pad way of doing it) love the stem split, although I would have liked the option to pick what goes on which deck. I split stems across multiple decks on my SZ when I need to fade out the melody. There is no smooth way to remove just this element on a busy track. BUT.... I dont see any FLIP controls or pad mode. This could well be the deal breaker for me as I use Flip a huge amount. I am looking for that next level device to temp me away from my aging SZ, but I would definitely need to demo this first I think.
Great review Mojaxx. Shit, what this setup can do creatively, it is so much more than a pioneer 4 deck cdj & djm rig. Loved djing with turntables and would always use for skratch purposes. Don't use jogs but very interesting how rane/serato have implemented them with the use of stems.
Amazing review. As usual. Just copped the Rane Four! Its next level and what i've been waiting for. I've been professionally DJ-ing since '88. Owned a record store from '98-04. Have been DJ-ing in the clubs 4 nights out of the week, every week, for 20+ years. Spinning platters on 12s and records have been my life, although I've never used spinning platters on controllers. I don't really like them tbh. My brain doesn't associate spinning platters with controllers and I prefer it that way. I still buy 12"s and 45s to this day and use the S9 with my decks. Another reason why I like capacitive jog wheels. It feels like decks and vinyl. The mechanical touch is very odd for me. Owned the SX, SX2, SX3, SZ (fav controller) the size of the SZ felt propa! Yes its massive, but it felt less "toy-ish" built like a tank, used and abused the crap out of it. Still rockin it, until the Rane Four came out. Which is what I was waiting for. Something a bit smaller than the SZ and bigger than the SRT1000. My only question/confusion was, why did they continue to use USB-B? and not switch to USB-C! paired with supplying USB-B to USB-A cables in the box. If you're using this controller, your laptop most likely has USB-C. At least supply a new gen USB-B to USB-C cables in the box. Seems very antiquated that they did all of this amazing new technology, resource hungry, and skipped that part.
This review is so real.Rane 4 was my first choice but i make a mistake and buy the denon prime 4 +.........Ohhh and about stems,in VIRTUAL DJ,you can assign stems to EQ...!!!!!
Great video and thanks! I started on 1200s and am still using them... although I was a very early adopter of Serato Scratch Live (the first few months it came out). I am trying to decide if I should upgrade my S9 or go for a controller like this - I am very interested in the vocal and instrumental split on the faders.
The ability to edit beatgrid would be great I would recommend holding shift and using the beat jump knob and buttons is Serato will add that to a firmware update. Also lcd screen options needs to be improved like srt or rev7 and rane performer
Currently use a pair of denon sc3900s so used to spinning platters, so a natural upgrade would be the rane one, but I long for 4 channels and the stems look cool, so this could be the one.. would it be possible to use one sc3900 on one of the channels on the rane four, if I fancy a mess about on spinning platter?
Great review ... Started with turntables and still on them .... at a crossroads though .. currently on 1200 & Rane 62 set-up but looking to upgrade the 62 due to no stems support (its hard to go back to DJin without it after playing on a Rane one and Rev7 recently). either staying on turntables and getting a Rane 70 , or switching to a spinning platter contoller .. only used static platters a few times and it just feels odd (as mainly play Hip Hop). so only real options are rane one or Rev 7... and as much as I'm a Rane fan boy I prefered the Rev 7 🥺 felt the platters, pitch faders/pad layout/headphone cue locations felt more natural to me. I dont do as may gigs as I used to so swaying between £1100 for the Rane 70 or £1800 for the Rev7
I started on static platters and moved into spinning platters with the R-One. Scratching is big in my sets, so spinning platters makes more sense for me. I’m sure I could tear it up with this R4, but I’d rather try before I buy. The mixer section looks phenomenal btw, everything does…I hope they adapt some of this to a R-One mk2 or a Rane Two.
Q:? If you have a track split on channels 1+3 (like in the video 22:35) and you are scratching the vocals, I can see it as being quite tricky to get the track playing in sync again. So which split does it jump back to by default when you join the tracks back up, 1 or 3? (as basically your vocals are now behind) Also , can you do the same performance while in 'slip' mode , or does it have that feature? Hope that makes sense!! And thanks for any reply !
I started with 2 tech 1200 and a ecler hak mixer, i have later on upgraded the mixer to pioneer 850 and a Rane72, but I never liked the Rane72 so i sold it. The effect section was not user friendly at all and having gotten use to the Pioneer mixers it was hell trying to mix with it. This is probably the controller i want the most being a Serato DJ, but I'm a bit unsure of the FX section and their sound, kinda use to Pioneers sound FX by now. Might wait to see if the FLX 10 which is rumored might challenge this?
Started on vinyl (1200s), 1979. Retired. Learning, loving digital. Have DDJ SX3. Upgrading to Rane 4 or FLX-10. Can't emphasize helpfulness of ur reviews. Q: SX3 fx have no vol control. Rane and FLX10?
Great and neat review, thank you. I'm a bit confused on the possibility to use same FX on right and left deck: doesn't it be triggered by the left/right paddles? So If I have for example echo FX selected I decide to use it on left or on right (or both). Thank you for clearification. Anyway I'll get this amazing controller as it will be available in Italy.
I started on turntables in 93 never did the cdj thing then bought a controller around 10 years ago an original sx. I did feel a little disembodied from the music using jogs rather than platters. So when it came to upgrade time I bought an ns73, best of both or so I thought. However in practice trying to pitch bend using these platters was difficult to say the least as there was always a compromise on platter feel, really tight for pitch bending or a bit slacker for a half decent spin back etc. Long story short I found myself using the pitch bend buttons rather than the platters which for me kinda defeated the object of the platters in the first place. Next upgrade was a ddj 1000 on rb. I found myself much more at home on this much more immersed in the music in general. Much more like playing on my original turntables. Just my weird little journey hope it kinda makes sense. Imo unless you are heavily into scratching i would chose statics over motorised everytime.
As the Rane1 is listed as ‘compatible’ with DJ Pro/Neural for its Stems, do you think this will , in time, be too ? ……. Or will it involve too much midi programming to get all those new fab Pad options to work ?
As always insightful review. Been waiting for this. I started on Gemini and numark belt drive turntables. Then ended up on vestal pd3s as I found technics to be weaker torque. Loved the pd3s and only changed them to reloop 7000 recently. First platter was Denon dnhs5500 then moved to dns3700 whilst adding numark nv2 then to mcx8000 until that got stolen after a gig. Now currently rock mixars primo for me and my son to have fun, mc7000 for gigs, and reloop 7000 with Rane64. I'm pissed that Rane 64 is no longer supported by serato so need to find replacement for that as want to add lc5000 to that and maybe the mc7000 might go for the Rane 4
How do you like the reloop 7000 turntables? I'm debating adding one into my home setup... I also have the MC7000 and love it, but the built in FX ,stems, bigger jogs with screens, pad OLED screens, and a few other bits, have me looking at this Rane Four... have been looking at the Rev7 as well... I have some time to decide while I save. The motorized jogs, smooth echo, and the instant scratch feature as well as other uses of those buttons are a few reasons I am still looking at the Rev7.... Maybe someday both...lol Anyhow, let me know if you get a Four, and how u like that RP7000...
@@isaiahfurrow7414 i absolutely love them. The fact my mates that grew up can on technics can go on straight back to back and just change the torque motor settings on the fly is added bonus. I was looking at the rev7 aswell but the Rane 4 has tipped the scales for me as need to get onboard with these stems. So many times in the past I've wish to remove vocals for tracks easier and this seems to be the ticket
Well Im sold haha I have traktor and have been using it for years but now its time to make the jump to serato Thanks for taking the time to make this video very much appreciated 🫡
I have the S4 Mk3 myself here and I just made the jump last week for this 🤘 I think it’s going to be pretty amazing and fun playing with the stems feature
@dude in the video, (yes you) would you rather a dj controller, rane 4 for example and a computer or would you rather a mixer and a computer and 2 digi decks such as 2 denon 5000`s? do they work the same, as in, is there lag? the computer and the digi decks and mixer all connect to each other and you can send songs to each deck? hopefully my questions are understandable
It’s because of this review I ordered the rane 4 . I am a pioneer gear guy but I’m want to give this a try I had a ddjsz and I will say no issues but the sound card in the unit was not that great. I also own a s11 and two cds 900 but they are not with me at the time being that I in out USA and I was not paying to ship them over. Next week I will get the unit I hope it’s as good as he says it is.
It seems the main feature here is splitting the stems with volume control. How important is that feature? IMO not so much. The ddj SZ which has been out for an eternity handles stems perfectly well. It’s just another controller that makes me think: maybe next year! All in one 4 Channel mixer with 10” or 12” moving platters: that’s all I wish for… in the meantime I vent my frustration and continue to grind with the turntables and S11.
Can i start with this RANE four as a beginner DJ, Please, let me know your thought as it will serve me on my journey of being a professional DJ, Thank you.
The controller is impressive. I'd like to see if Pioneer is going to make something to compete with it if they do something within the Rev line of products I think it could be something really awesome. On the flip side if they do something within the flx line of products I most likely wouldn't be interested.
That would be nice to see, but I’m worried about cost. The Rev7 is already on the expensive side at $1999. Making it four channel and adding all these new features would definitely push it past $2000 and at that price point, they’ll lose a lot of potential customers. Rane was smart to price the Four at $1699 because they’re going to get a lot more sales/ attention/ adoption. I’m even thinking they’ll increase the price a bit since it sold out so quickly. Just got mine today!
@soiceyboy33 if it was a rev line controller with mechanical jogs maybe that would make it premium without the high cost of motorized platters. There's already images of a flx10 floating around though so a 4 channel stem inspired rev controller is most likely not gonna happen
Static platters being super widely used is fair, folks are used to them because that's what has been available or ages but at that price not having an toggle option for spinning ones is a miss IMHO. A couple of motors wouldnt make much difference in the production cost.
Is there a way you can adjust the jog wheel on the RANE FOUR. I just got mine yesterday and I feel like the the Vinyl is really soft and I have to a lot pressure on it to scratch. I'm contemplating whether I should keep my 1000SRT to the RANE. The RANE has great sound, but the stems sound just like on the SRT. The jog wheel the only thing on the RANE that's making it hard for me to decide which one to keep.
I only had 1200's before I got a controller after selling my turntables. IMHO there some cultural differences. Since Europe in general is more four on the floor. Not big on scratching in general so static is fine for them. That four on the floor culture mainly exist in Chicago, Detroit and New York. In California, if you spin rap/hip hop you still have turntables. A few have controllers, Rane One or Rane 12, occasionally Denon media players like the 5000 and 6000. Electronica, they love Pioneer CDJs and it also a status symbol for them and pretenders who can afford them but aren't good at all at being DJ's. I waited for something like the Rane One and Pioneer Rev 7. The price is off putting and aren't very mobile friendly even if I have moved away from wedding and all that nonsense that pays well but static in terms of what can be played with upwards of four generations at an event, I'll pass. At $1700 I could consider the Four over the One. But the Rev 7 is around the same price. I'll likely keep the budget around $1000 for a controller. I've been DJ'ing since 1986
So are the jogs more like an SX2/SX3 or more like a DDJ1000? Like when you touch them lightly - do they still react? Or does it take a little pressure?
With all the screens on the controller rane could be low key supporting Denons vision of standalone only given if you dont need to look at your laptop or at least your need to look at it reduces what is the need if rane slapped a screen on the rane 4 update it would be much of a stretch
Nice review, I wonder is this controller have independent four channels or two channels with two hybrid channels. I haven’t seen any one demo a blend without using the stem . Everything don’t have to be stem. 🤔
@@Mojaxx thanks glad to know. I was wondering some crowds like hearing the track at its original groove and not super remixed. Thanks your answer is a deal breaker for me 😁🔥
So do the hardware effects and the mixer work without a computer? I assume they do. I just ordered the rane one to try out and it has just dawned on me that the lack of hardware effects will be a big deal breaker as I plan to do a lot of stuff using delays & loopers not just with decks but also external gear. Ideally the controller’s mixer will integrate everything as this is how I have been working with the 68/64 for the past decade & I really want something that continues from where those devices left off. I really wish I could have some input into the development of a future product that is aimed more at the producer/dj (eg. Aux sends/inserts/pans/direct outs… I’m in a strange realm that is somewhere between the turntablist / producer and club dj. I find there to be too many similar products while a lot of older features continue to disappear in favour of quirky effects nobody will really use (loopers & echoes > phasers and flangers)
I thought that. In the manual it mentions some setting for refresh rate but when I looked in Serato I didn't see anything. When I was reading the manual I wasn't by the unit though. It is definitely a bit jumpy out of the box
Very interested in this controller. I am a traktor user. Do you guys think Native Instruments will come out with something soon? If not I may have to jump ship😞
Would love a smaller/portable version of this for mobile work. 8.5" jogs are bigger than I'm used to. Would be more convenient for home practise too. Great features all round on this controller though, very appealing. Demo sounded great Mojaxx!
Your reviews continue to be the Gold Standard for Excellence. We appreciate your insights and support. Cheers
I would love to see a 9in+ spinning platter controller come out soon with this style of mixer lay out!
The hype behind this controller is insane. Reminds me of when the DDJ SX/ SZ first came out…those controllers were truly groundbreaking for their time. This takes that winning formula and pumps it up to the next level with stems. Pioneer should be VERY worried because I see this becoming the new industry standard.
everytime I see a four track DJ controller. I can't help but to think about Serato Stems getting used to the max!!! What a time to be alive!!!
Oh yes it is an amazing time, tech is just getting incredible!! I only dreamed of this 20 years ago never thinking it could or would happen!!! Now if only I had the time to have fun with it all, lol!!
Agreed!
What??? My fav production reviewer commenting on my fav DJ gear reviewer
Fellow scholar?
Despite not having an onboard touchscreen($), IT looks and sounds truly amazing!
Just received mine today. I started djing in the early 90s on turntables. I had to evolve from cd N-88 numark, denon 5000, denon 9000,pioneer sx2, pioneer sz2 which I love. As a mobile dj I was done carrying records, cd books. The controller has being a god sent ease of use and time savings. This controller just takes my mixing to another level when the event calls for it sweet 16 etc. Having the professional quality for regular events is a no brainer. As for as platters are concern I'm a house dj so the need to scratch won't be as important. The 8 inch jog wheels shall be plenty shouldi have to. Great review as always Mo. Over 30 years of this craft and I couldn't be more excited to get to practice on this new device from Rane.
Thx Mojaxx, I’ve been waiting for your clear & concise review on this …….you have a great ability to combine ‘technical’ with your wealth of experience & enthusiasm 👍
The review DJs have been waiting for!!! 🙌🏻
The best review I've seen so far on this magnificient rane four! Congrats!
Excellent review Mojaxx! The Rane is a beautiful piece of kit, no doubt. I started on old school belt driven turntables before moving to Technics 1200s. I've mixed on 12s for many years before shutting down as sometimes life gets in the way.
When I returned I went the controller route. Started on a DDJ400 and now use a DDJ 800 and lovin' my XDJ RX3. Coming from turntables it took a minute to get used to static jogs but once I did it was no problem. I've spun on a Rane One and love the moving platters but at the end of the day, it seems like static jogs are the way to go, now, at least for me.
Brutha…you’re the Pro’s Pro; when it comes to our world of DJ and Music Production!! Thank you always for outstanding feedback and insights!!!
Excellent review Mojave! This controller is my favorite static platter controller to date. So many fun features...so much creative control.
I started on turn tables in the 80's. I've used both since early 2k and am comfortable with either. I actually got the Rain Four for the stems control, and being 51 yrs old, I like the light weight of it compared to the Rane One or Rev7. Now if they would get us a good carrying case for monster sized controller.
might wait to get it until decksavers and soft cases become available. shouldn't be long.
There are Cases for Rane4, on Amazon, i owes Rane4 controller and keeping it Safe is very important definitely
I started with a Numark Mixtrack Pro 1, then I got a DDJ SB3, which I returned for a SX2 that was on offer for a ridiculously low price. When I got the SX2, my brother gave me two turntables that I fell in love with. From there I ended up getting a mixer, and now my main setup is two turntables and a S11 mixer. I just got a Numark Mixstream Pro Go, and its ok to mix on. I wish the crossfader had a tighter cut , but its serviceable. Its especially good because you literally can take it anywhere and start Djing. Cord free! The speakers on it sound surprisingly good and get very loud. I'm happy with it, but my bread and butter is two turntables and a mixer for sure!
Great review Mojaxx as always. I had turntables on and off from about 85 until 2007 I have went on to Denon 3700s and now SC6000m. I think spinning platters just feel more fun and as somebody who is 55 years old and only use them at home these days, fun is the only thing that matters. Bought the 6000ms after your review and same with Xone 96. Always fancied an Allen & Heath mixer. Very happy with everything but still miss the effects after using time code in Traktor with my 3700s and an X1.
Yep, got the SC6000M too. HATE static platters, no fun whatsoever.
I was on the fence about getting the Rane 4. I was considering the ddj100srt but after this review, I decided on the Rane 4. I just ordered mine. I think Rane is a no brainer because of it's innovative features and the overall beautiful look. The ddj100srt is a couple of years old whereas the Rane 4 is fresh out the kitchen. Thank Mojaxx for the review. Keep up the good work.
What do you think? Is it good?
I think this is the new standard for Mobile, Corporate, Wedding DJs.
Pioneer really have a lot of catch up on with stems.
Split stems just opens up huge potential for elevating private events. One you add in the ability to map the pad buttons to Soundswitch or Daslight functions, it really does take it to another level of 'on the fly' control.
The workflow potential on the Rane Four is outstanding.
NOT! like he said: this can be dangerous in the wrong hands. I can maybe see a little tiny bit of this being done at a wedding but is like scratching...less is more. and im speaking in the wedding scene.
I think another reason for the static platters is cost. Moving jog wheels cost more to make as they have moving parts and a good, strong motor to keep the wheels running consistently and quickly from zero to the set bpm speed. If Rane wanted to keep costs down, then it was a no brainer to use static jog wheels and especially as it would make this controller lighter and many Dj's are happy using static jog wheels. Judging by the very reasonably price of this controller, I'd say Rane knew what it was doing when it ditched the spinning platters on this particular controller.
Yesss Much Needed Mojaxxx take on the Rane 4! Stems is the future & now our Present with the Rane 4 🙌🏼 stems split with individual faders is next level! That's why I had to order one! Can't wait to be able to remap my SRT 1000 while pioneer takes their time figuring out their life.. Rev 7, S11 & SRT needs to have a Stems 4ch, paddle fx (multiple channels at the same time), Stems split, dedicated Stems buttons, mechanic srt or 3000 (cdj) jogs. 32 pads(8x8x8x8) w/ pad mode screens. Locking IE, 15lbs, controller baby! 🙏🏼🤞🏼🙌🏼
Great review! Started with decks and want spinning platters if I'm honest, but this looks so good.
Great review Mojaxx love how you used those FX. Can’t wait to get my hands on the Rane Four. I started with Numark ndx400. Now I have the Denon dj sc5000 and sc5000M for home use. When I do gigs I use the Rane One. I like both but when I like to be more creative or using lots of FX I prefer jog wheels and for scratching motorized platters.
Great video thanks for doing such a great job putting this together. The effects section alone is a huge step forward - I had the Rane 70 mixer and ended up selling it in part because I didn’t really like the effects (or filters for that matter) but this looks excellent.
I started on CDJ 1000s, moved to vinyl (so I could be a ‘real DJ’ lol), and then started using controllers and well. Have gone through so many controllers since then, and as for platters, I prefer spinning platters or mechanical platters over capacitive ones. The reason I say that is that on both pioneer and denon controllers the capacitive platters would stop working randomly (and then work again). This happened on four controllers I had over the years and when searching on UA-cam it seemed to be fairly common. I’m currently using a ddj-srt1000 because I wanted the mechanical platters (they work perfectly). As for the feel of the platters while DJing, I don’t have too much of a preference since (when they are working) all are pretty responsive.
Great review! I really hope I will like these Jogwheels. My first was CDJ-1000mk2 and I love the grip of them. I rock the LC6000 now and it’s far better than the SC5000 but I love the grip of the CDJ’s. I really hope InMusic releases stickers or replace platters with better rubber grip surface for the Jogwheels. RANE Four is my new controller. Can’t wait to start playing with it.🎶
As always thank you for your honest review unlike some other reviewers. Greatly appreciated.
I started djing with turntables and moved on to controllers and even though I currently own a controller with static platters I’m waiting for RANE to come out with RANE one version 2 or a RANE 4 with moving platters. Until then I may consider buying this unit cause for the price and features is fantastic.
great review! turntables, cdj’s, then to controllers. phase & turntables my ideal performance method.
Marvelous review per usual, splendid job Mojaxx! I just got mine yesterday, can't wait to try it out.
Great to see that your 3 months of Rane Four you didn’t change your opinion! Ordered mine😁! Huge fan of your reviews 👌
Fantastic review, as usual, your standards are so high with content.
Just ordered myself one and can’t wait to try it out.
In my reaction to your initial impressions video, I was worried about the possible busy and intricate workflow of this device. Part of that still stands I must say, especially the last part with scratching terms. But I must admit I'm very impressed by the pad LEDs and stems possibilities, that's golden.
As for platters, switching from analog beatmatching on the spinning wheels of the SL 1200 MK2 to digital beatmatching on controller platters was something I had to get used to. For digital beatmatching, I actually prefer using pitchbend buttons now over pitch fader and platter adjustments. But this has more to do with digital vs analog beatmatching, not so much platters or spinning wheels IMO.
Man... the DDJ-1000 owned the 4- channel controller lane for a bit. The here is a LEVEL Up major. It'll be interesting to see the rekordbox stems. PS I'm back on turntables w/ Rane 12s × STEMS w/ DJM-s5 (from the 1000) & loving my DJ life
Fantastic review and demo. Cheers!
I wish you had of commented on the 3 mm plastic that's glued on top of the unit and the front. You can see the saw cut on the edge of the plastic and the top corners are super sharp. It doesn't feel like there is much metal in this.
Looking good man , nice review!
Thanks for this really in-depth review, now I'm convinced to pull the trigger on this purchase!!!!
should we wait for the Rane Preformer controller to come out?
😲 Nice effects! Great review!!!!
I started on turntables and actually went backwards to using controllers. I think more for mobility. I never had the cash to have more toys than one main piece of gear. I've been all over trying different patters on controllers. Vestax 380, 300. Numark NS6, NI Kontrol S4,Roland DJ505, Denon HS5500. Even tried the Numark CDX. Having a turntable type feel is always what I wanted in a controller. Closest to achieve that for me is my current Rane One. But with the additional stems possibilities on the Rane Four. I might have to give up the motorized platters!
Do you think the other 16 FX might get ignored, once you've saved your 6 favorites on the buttons? I feel like switching an effect mid-session is still a little cumbersome, what has your experience been?
Would be nice if they could add banks, maybe a shift+click of the FX Assign buttons or something to give you 4 banks of FX.
Anyways great review @mojaxx!
That’s a fair point, although are many DJs really using more than 6 FX in any given set? I certainly don’t, probably 4 at most, to be honest, even with all of the ones on here at my disposal.
@@Mojaxx totally agree I'm at about 3 or 4 as well, all night long. If I were Rane though I wouldn't want all my effect programming to go to waste
can. not. wait. for all these features on a mixer. 🙏 for a 73 (3 channels).
Still have Turntables but copped a Vestax VCi 300 for travel. Upgraded that to Roland 505 and finally the Rane One. Static jogs are cool and super smooth for mixing, but nothing beats moving platters for Hip-Hop style Open Format DJng. Would definitely upgrade to the next Rane controller with moving platters, but honestly you can do ALOT with the One and prepping your edits ahead of time.
Very informative and can't wait for mine to arrive!
Great review. My simple question. HOW DOES THIS DO outside in a Daylight/Sunlight environment? Do pads fade away? how's the jog screens in sunlight?
I like most of what I see. Serperate jump controls is cool (hate the pad way of doing it) love the stem split, although I would have liked the option to pick what goes on which deck. I split stems across multiple decks on my SZ when I need to fade out the melody. There is no smooth way to remove just this element on a busy track. BUT.... I dont see any FLIP controls or pad mode. This could well be the deal breaker for me as I use Flip a huge amount. I am looking for that next level device to temp me away from my aging SZ, but I would definitely need to demo this first I think.
It would have been much better with moving platters only let down on the unit.
Would like to see a vs Rane 4 vs Rane 72 in the sound department if possible? If you can add Rev 7 into the mix be nice as well.
Great review Mojaxx.
Shit, what this setup can do creatively, it is so much more than a pioneer 4 deck cdj & djm rig.
Loved djing with turntables and would always use for skratch purposes. Don't use jogs but very interesting how rane/serato have implemented them with the use of stems.
Amazing review. As usual. Just copped the Rane Four! Its next level and what i've been waiting for. I've been professionally DJ-ing since '88. Owned a record store from '98-04. Have been DJ-ing in the clubs 4 nights out of the week, every week, for 20+ years. Spinning platters on 12s and records have been my life, although I've never used spinning platters on controllers. I don't really like them tbh. My brain doesn't associate spinning platters with controllers and I prefer it that way. I still buy 12"s and 45s to this day and use the S9 with my decks. Another reason why I like capacitive jog wheels. It feels like decks and vinyl. The mechanical touch is very odd for me. Owned the SX, SX2, SX3, SZ (fav controller) the size of the SZ felt propa! Yes its massive, but it felt less "toy-ish" built like a tank, used and abused the crap out of it. Still rockin it, until the Rane Four came out. Which is what I was waiting for. Something a bit smaller than the SZ and bigger than the SRT1000. My only question/confusion was, why did they continue to use USB-B? and not switch to USB-C! paired with supplying USB-B to USB-A cables in the box. If you're using this controller, your laptop most likely has USB-C. At least supply a new gen USB-B to USB-C cables in the box. Seems very antiquated that they did all of this amazing new technology, resource hungry, and skipped that part.
People overlook the Clean Echo Out, Pan Delay, and the Combo Filter in Serato. Those are 3 irreplaceable and most used effects in my DJ sets.
That’s a powerful controller you make it look so easy mixing them stems great episode
thanks for this full review!
100% worth the price tag , great review. STATIC PLATTERS for me :)
Hi, thanks for the video. Does the Rane 4 unlock the full Serato license? Does this license work without the Rane 4 plugged in?
Awesome review thanks mojaxx
This review is so real.Rane 4 was my first choice but i make a mistake and buy the denon prime 4 +.........Ohhh and about stems,in VIRTUAL DJ,you can assign stems to EQ...!!!!!
Great video and thanks! I started on 1200s and am still using them... although I was a very early adopter of Serato Scratch Live (the first few months it came out). I am trying to decide if I should upgrade my S9 or go for a controller like this - I am very interested in the vocal and instrumental split on the faders.
Couple of questions here… What case are you using for it currently? Have you found the headphone levels quiet compared to other controllers?
The ability to edit beatgrid would be great I would recommend holding shift and using the beat jump knob and buttons is Serato will add that to a firmware update. Also lcd screen options needs to be improved like srt or rev7 and rane performer
Currently use a pair of denon sc3900s so used to spinning platters, so a natural upgrade would be the rane one, but I long for 4 channels and the stems look cool, so this could be the one.. would it be possible to use one sc3900 on one of the channels on the rane four, if I fancy a mess about on spinning platter?
Great review ... Started with turntables and still on them .... at a crossroads though .. currently on 1200 & Rane 62 set-up but looking to upgrade the 62 due to no stems support (its hard to go back to DJin without it after playing on a Rane one and Rev7 recently). either staying on turntables and getting a Rane 70 , or switching to a spinning platter contoller .. only used static platters a few times and it just feels odd (as mainly play Hip Hop). so only real options are rane one or Rev 7... and as much as I'm a Rane fan boy I prefered the Rev 7 🥺 felt the platters, pitch faders/pad layout/headphone cue locations felt more natural to me. I dont do as may gigs as I used to so swaying between £1100 for the Rane 70 or £1800 for the Rev7
I started on static platters and moved into spinning platters with the R-One. Scratching is big in my sets, so spinning platters makes more sense for me. I’m sure I could tear it up with this R4, but I’d rather try before I buy.
The mixer section looks phenomenal btw, everything does…I hope they adapt some of this to a R-One mk2 or a Rane Two.
Q:? If you have a track split on channels 1+3 (like in the video 22:35) and you are scratching the vocals, I can see it as being quite tricky to get the track playing in sync again. So which split does it jump back to by default when you join the tracks back up, 1 or 3? (as basically your vocals are now behind) Also , can you do the same performance while in 'slip' mode , or does it have that feature? Hope that makes sense!! And thanks for any reply !
It does have slip mode so yes you could.
@@BarelyLegitBeats Thank you mate!
is include serato dj pro and recordbox when you buy it???
Do I need to upgrade my laptop to use this controller
Finally!
Are the upfaders the same as the One or are they swappable?
I started with 2 tech 1200 and a ecler hak mixer, i have later on upgraded the mixer to pioneer 850 and a Rane72, but I never liked the Rane72 so i sold it. The effect section was not user friendly at all and having gotten use to the Pioneer mixers it was hell trying to mix with it. This is probably the controller i want the most being a Serato DJ, but I'm a bit unsure of the FX section and their sound, kinda use to Pioneers sound FX by now. Might wait to see if the FLX 10 which is rumored might challenge this?
Started on vinyl (1200s), 1979. Retired. Learning, loving digital. Have DDJ SX3. Upgrading to Rane 4 or FLX-10. Can't emphasize helpfulness of ur reviews. Q: SX3 fx have no vol control. Rane and FLX10?
I love my SX3.
Great and neat review, thank you. I'm a bit confused on the possibility to use same FX on right and left deck: doesn't it be triggered by the left/right paddles? So If I have for example echo FX selected I decide to use it on left or on right (or both). Thank you for clearification. Anyway I'll get this amazing controller as it will be available in Italy.
I started on turntables in 93 never did the cdj thing then bought a controller around 10 years ago an original sx. I did feel a little disembodied from the music using jogs rather than platters. So when it came to upgrade time I bought an ns73, best of both or so I thought. However in practice trying to pitch bend using these platters was difficult to say the least as there was always a compromise on platter feel, really tight for pitch bending or a bit slacker for a half decent spin back etc. Long story short I found myself using the pitch bend buttons rather than the platters which for me kinda defeated the object of the platters in the first place. Next upgrade was a ddj 1000 on rb. I found myself much more at home on this much more immersed in the music in general. Much more like playing on my original turntables. Just my weird little journey hope it kinda makes sense. Imo unless you are heavily into scratching i would chose statics over motorised everytime.
As the Rane1 is listed as ‘compatible’ with DJ Pro/Neural for its Stems, do you think this will , in time, be too ? ……. Or will it involve too much midi programming to get all those new fab Pad options to work ?
I’ll be surprised if Algoriddim (and of course Virtual DJ) don’t have mappings for this fairly quickly.
As always insightful review. Been waiting for this.
I started on Gemini and numark belt drive turntables. Then ended up on vestal pd3s as I found technics to be weaker torque. Loved the pd3s and only changed them to reloop 7000 recently. First platter was Denon dnhs5500 then moved to dns3700 whilst adding numark nv2 then to mcx8000 until that got stolen after a gig. Now currently rock mixars primo for me and my son to have fun, mc7000 for gigs, and reloop 7000 with Rane64. I'm pissed that Rane 64 is no longer supported by serato so need to find replacement for that as want to add lc5000 to that and maybe the mc7000 might go for the Rane 4
How do you like the reloop 7000 turntables? I'm debating adding one into my home setup...
I also have the MC7000 and love it, but the built in FX ,stems, bigger jogs with screens, pad OLED screens, and a few other bits, have me looking at this Rane Four... have been looking at the Rev7 as well... I have some time to decide while I save. The motorized jogs, smooth echo, and the instant scratch feature as well as other uses of those buttons are a few reasons I am still looking at the Rev7....
Maybe someday both...lol
Anyhow, let me know if you get a Four, and how u like that RP7000...
@@isaiahfurrow7414 i absolutely love them. The fact my mates that grew up can on technics can go on straight back to back and just change the torque motor settings on the fly is added bonus.
I was looking at the rev7 aswell but the Rane 4 has tipped the scales for me as need to get onboard with these stems. So many times in the past I've wish to remove vocals for tracks easier and this seems to be the ticket
Well Im sold haha
I have traktor and have been using it for years but now its time to make the jump to serato
Thanks for taking the time to make this video very much appreciated 🫡
I have the S4 Mk3 myself here and I just made the jump last week for this 🤘 I think it’s going to be pretty amazing and fun playing with the stems feature
@dude in the video, (yes you) would you rather a dj controller, rane 4 for example and a computer or would you rather a mixer and a computer and 2 digi decks such as 2 denon 5000`s?
do they work the same, as in, is there lag? the computer and the digi decks and mixer all connect to each other and you can send songs to each deck?
hopefully my questions are understandable
@mojax impressed on how much weight you lost! Congratiulations! and i hope all is well Cheers mate !
It’s because of this review I ordered the rane 4 . I am a pioneer gear guy but I’m want to give this a try I had a ddjsz and I will say no issues but the sound card in the unit was not that great. I also own a s11 and two cds 900 but they are not with me at the time being that I in out USA and I was not paying to ship them over. Next week I will get the unit I hope it’s as good as he says it is.
I started on the cdj-300 jog wheel
Please tell me the jogs are 10x better than InMusic's other offering on the SC/LC 6000
VDJ support Rane 4 Testing with build 7524. Show scratch sounds
It seems the main feature here is splitting the stems with volume control. How important is that feature? IMO not so much. The ddj SZ which has been out for an eternity handles stems perfectly well. It’s just another controller that makes me think: maybe next year!
All in one 4 Channel mixer with 10” or 12” moving platters: that’s all I wish for… in the meantime I vent my frustration and continue to grind with the turntables and S11.
love my SZ. been rocking with it for damn near a decade. such a power house. it's my mobile setup now but it's never given me an issue
Can i start with this RANE four as a beginner DJ, Please, let me know your thought as it will serve me on my journey of being a professional DJ, Thank you.
The controller is impressive. I'd like to see if Pioneer is going to make something to compete with it if they do something within the Rev line of products I think it could be something really awesome. On the flip side if they do something within the flx line of products I most likely wouldn't be interested.
That would be nice to see, but I’m worried about cost. The Rev7 is already on the expensive side at $1999. Making it four channel and adding all these new features would definitely push it past $2000 and at that price point, they’ll lose a lot of potential customers.
Rane was smart to price the Four at $1699 because they’re going to get a lot more sales/ attention/ adoption. I’m even thinking they’ll increase the price a bit since it sold out so quickly. Just got mine today!
@soiceyboy33 if it was a rev line controller with mechanical jogs maybe that would make it premium without the high cost of motorized platters. There's already images of a flx10 floating around though so a 4 channel stem inspired rev controller is most likely not gonna happen
Rane four vs soon coming FLX10? Witch one do you prefer ?
Great video!
Static platters being super widely used is fair, folks are used to them because that's what has been available or ages but at that price not having an toggle option for spinning ones is a miss IMHO. A couple of motors wouldnt make much difference in the production cost.
Is there a way you can adjust the jog wheel on the RANE FOUR. I just got mine yesterday and I feel like the the Vinyl is really soft and I have to a lot pressure on it to scratch. I'm contemplating whether I should keep my 1000SRT to the RANE. The RANE has great sound, but the stems sound just like on the SRT. The jog wheel the only thing on the RANE that's making it hard for me to decide which one to keep.
My Rane Four has arrived 😜
I only had 1200's before I got a controller after selling my turntables. IMHO there some cultural differences. Since Europe in general is more four on the floor. Not big on scratching in general so static is fine for them. That four on the floor culture mainly exist in Chicago, Detroit and New York. In California, if you spin rap/hip hop you still have turntables. A few have controllers, Rane One or Rane 12, occasionally Denon media players like the 5000 and 6000. Electronica, they love Pioneer CDJs and it also a status symbol for them and pretenders who can afford them but aren't good at all at being DJ's.
I waited for something like the Rane One and Pioneer Rev 7.
The price is off putting and aren't very mobile friendly even if I have moved away from wedding and all that nonsense that pays well but static in terms of what can be played with upwards of four generations at an event, I'll pass.
At $1700 I could consider the Four over the One. But the Rev 7 is around the same price.
I'll likely keep the budget around $1000 for a controller.
I've been DJ'ing since 1986
Does it not have Cue Loop? That’s my favorite pad mode on Serato controllers.
Maybe that's what the user assignable third cue pad mode is for 😊
Which one is best for rane4 or flx10? Please tellme
So are the jogs more like an SX2/SX3 or more like a DDJ1000?
Like when you touch them lightly - do they still react? Or does it take a little pressure?
The tech is the same as on the SX range - capacitive. So they respond to touch, not pressure.
@@Mojaxx that is a slight bummer but I’m sure we can get use to it
I would definitely buy this controller if they had spinning platers like the Rane One. I hope they make them
With all the screens on the controller rane could be low key supporting Denons vision of standalone only given if you dont need to look at your laptop or at least your need to look at it reduces what is the need if rane slapped a screen on the rane 4 update it would be much of a stretch
Nice review, I wonder is this controller have independent four channels or two channels with two hybrid channels. I haven’t seen any one demo a blend without using the stem . Everything don’t have to be stem. 🤔
It’s a regular 4 deck controller if you aren’t wanting to use the Stems features. Works like any equivalent device.
@@Mojaxx thanks glad to know. I was wondering some crowds like hearing the track at its original groove and not super remixed. Thanks your answer is a deal breaker for me 😁🔥
So do the hardware effects and the mixer work without a computer? I assume they do. I just ordered the rane one to try out and it has just dawned on me that the lack of hardware effects will be a big deal breaker as I plan to do a lot of stuff using delays & loopers not just with decks but also external gear. Ideally the controller’s mixer will integrate everything as this is how I have been working with the 68/64 for the past decade & I really want something that continues from where those devices left off. I really wish I could have some input into the development of a future product that is aimed more at the producer/dj (eg. Aux sends/inserts/pans/direct outs… I’m in a strange realm that is somewhere between the turntablist / producer and club dj.
I find there to be too many similar products while a lot of older features continue to disappear in favour of quirky effects nobody will really use (loopers & echoes > phasers and flangers)
This is one special unit.
That filters roll is bad ass.
I haven't seen a single review comment on the screens for the platters refreshing at such a low framerate. That's a huge problem.
I thought that. In the manual it mentions some setting for refresh rate but when I looked in Serato I didn't see anything. When I was reading the manual I wasn't by the unit though. It is definitely a bit jumpy out of the box
Very interested in this controller. I am a traktor user. Do you guys think Native Instruments will come out with something soon? If not I may have to jump ship😞
If there was a spinning platter when controllers first came out, I'm sure the sales would be much higher than what we see now.
Would love a smaller/portable version of this for mobile work. 8.5" jogs are bigger than I'm used to. Would be more convenient for home practise too. Great features all round on this controller though, very appealing. Demo sounded great Mojaxx!
Why are they doing the level LEDs so short? The have plenty of space to make them longer.