For what it's worth- I had a DRZ back in 06-08 and it was good for what it was- getting me back into the sport, after a 25 yr absence. Shortly I moved to more dirt oriented bikes & 4 bikes later, haven looked back. My thoughts mirror yours, the 5 speed was a huge drawback after a while & a few other issues. For the price, it's not bad. However, I'd suggest the Beta 390 is what you should measure against the DRZ400. Yes, it's more money, but it's also the bike that the DRZ should have evolved into.(interestingly, Suzuki actually built a prototype DRZ 4xx in 2008, based on all the things everyone had been asking for; 6 speed, lighter, better suspension, juice clutch etc. Then the financial crisis hit and Suzuki crushed the bike - too bad) The Beta 390 is one of the most versatile and effective bikes on the market today. It's a lovely bike on trails, 2-track, and hardcore competition. It handles and stops very well & always has enough power without wearing you out. It is a very exceptional bike & is worth the premium. It excels off road and is as good, or better than the DRZ on back roads and mild highway stints. The DRZ does excel at lower maintenance and engine longevity, but still, many, many guys are exceeding 500hrs on the 390s without any significant engine costs or wear. Take 100 riders and have them ride both in all conditions and ask them to pick--- I doubt any of them would choose the DRZ over the Beta. All over them will find the extra 5k to pay for it. I first rode a 390 in late 2015 or early 2016 and was immediately impressed. I said to myself- 'This is the bike Suzuki should have developed the DRZ into!' I've since convinced quite a few people to buy one and not one has regretted it. If you haven't tested one, I highly recommend it. ;)
14 years and 43K miles on my DRZ. I adjusted the valves at 20K miles and have been waiting for it to become hard to start ever since. 15/44 (factory) gearing runs 65mph just fine. Pick up your pace and learn clutch control on the single track and it's a non-issue. I can afford any bike right now but I just like to ride and not work on bikes every 3K miles. I change the oil and ride on. Excellent review btw. subscribed.
Hey there, I just bought my first drz 2022 off the floor. I haven’t had any issues riding at 65 feels great there for type of bike it is! Also I heard these bikes are meant to run high rpm so if you got to throttle out nothing to worry about! I will probly upgrade some things little by little but I am very content right now! Love it
I have a 2020 DRZ. I run on the freeway 65-70 all the time no problem. I have seen videos where the 300s with 6 speeds struggle to run that speed. They are wide open with throttle pegged. I still have throttle left and can accelerate if needed. Even though the DRZ is a 5 speed the overall gearing allows it to travel at freeway speeds no problem.
Question man just got a drz what kinda maintenance needs to be done to keep it running this is my first vehicle does it need oil ? Engine fluid any advice would help
There’s an 08 I’ve been thinking about buying with 20k miles. The only thing that scared me was that it said “top end just rebuilt” but reading ur comment I’m guessing that just meant valves adjusted? Is that just common maintenance at 20k?
I have had 30 bike in the past 50 years. I currently have a BMW F800GS and a DRZ400. The DRZ is one of the best bikes I have ever had. The carb is not issue whatsoever. The 5 speed trans is just something I have to live with. But, the engine is like a tractor and is just what I need for the places I ride it. Tons of low end power where all the other dual sport only have power at high RPM. This is not the bike for every one but it's the only bike in it's class for those who do need it.
I just purchased my first dual sport bike, rode dirt bikes and street bikes for years but recently purchased a 2023 DRZ400 and have enjoyed it so far and like the long standing reputation the DRZ400 holds.
Ride a Beta 390 & you'll never look back. Yes, a bit more maintenance intensive than the DRZ, but it excels so well in every other aspect, that you'll forget about that issue.
I just drove home the champion Yellow 2023 model of this bike, and plan to mod it out. But bottom line is even with 5 gears and carburetor. I absolutely Love this bike!
This bike is perfect for me, because I'm tall and don't fit other bikes that well But I have a 2023 champion yellow DRZ-400S, no safety features such as traction control or abs and it doesn't need those, it's so lightweight and nimble and the throttle response is like really no other plus you can't go wrong with the bright yellow bike
Totally agree. Suzuki can do 2 things to own the market: - DRZ upgrades (as you said) EFI and 6-spd transmission - DR650 suspension, EFI, and 6-spd transmission. They’d own this market.
Suzuki can't upgrade to efi without the expensive investment to pass current emission standards. They leave it as is so it can be grandfathered in as related to EPA standards. Put the wide ratio gear set in and good to go.
I don't want EFI... I am looking at this bike BECAUSE it is simple and old school. Maybe they should add 1 more gear, but that's all they should change from what I can see. If you want EFI and all that, why not just get a KTM 690? Why mess up this perfectly fine bike with all that techno crud?
I’ve had mine for ten years. Engine is completely stock and I’ve had zero problems. I’m 5’9” and the low Seat Concepts works for me. It’s a pleasure to work on and modify.
My first dual sport was a ts250 suzuki from the 70's. I've owned many bikes since at 54 I'm coming full circle and purchasing a DZR400 very soon! So excited!
I've put 29,000 miles on my 2018 DRZ 400S and have to conclude.............It is the ultimate second motorcycle. The engine is a gem, as is the suspension. The carburetor is a non issue on this Japanese beauty; Maintenance and filter checks ladies and gentlemen, basic stuff. My personal largest critique (besides the seat)............stock fuel capacity. Both can be remedied in the aftermarket.
I think it could use a 6th gear and a fuel gauge to be a usable dual sport. If the carb was a non issue then it wouldn't take up the majority of the posts on forums lol.
@@LargetalonsThe majority of discussion I see on forums is just talking about jetting and whether or not it’s necessary -not complaining about the stock carb. Any carburetor bike is going to have a discussion about the carb. A sixth gear would be nice but it isn’t necessary. Just don’t buy a brand new one, let some other goofball do it and then cop it for 5k with a couple thousand miles on it instead of 7k with dealership fees
I have most of the aftermarket goodies on mine and it rips. My one lament is a fuel gauge. It’s just a little more thinking to deal with but I prefer the convenience of a gauge.
I sure miss my DRZ. I traded it for the 22 KLR. I’m enjoying the KLR as it is sooooo much more comfortable on the highway. I agree that I’d buy another DRZ in a heartbeat if the just put a 6 speed transmission in it. For me it was not comfortable at 70 mph. If they also lowered the seat and gave it fuel injection that would be icing on the cake! Thanks for the great video!
I think the issue there is just taking a bike not really meeeant for modern highway travel onto the highway. Some bikes just aren’t comfortable doing certain things. I’d say most dual sports aren’t designed or expected to go on the highway for more than a few minutes if you’re traveling somewhere and can’t avoid it. KLX300 can get up to 65-70 (depending on the rider) but I would never run it at the speed for longer than a few minutes
In Canada, the price difference between the CRF300L and the DR-Z is really not that much. The CR is $7500, or 7800 with ABS, while the DR-Z is $8000 What I really want to see is a comparison between the DR-Z400 and DR650.
I've ridden my buddies drz the past 8 year's when I visit him in Texas, doing many8-10 hr days. I'm 6'4" and it does feel tall to me too. After riding his , I recently bought one to compliment my R1200gs. Love them bboth for different types of riding.
As a DR650 Owner, I have 0 issues w/ a carb. 26K and zero problems. Very easy to service or modify. The 400 could be modded easily with lowering links, W/R gears, and a jet/air box kit. Put good oil in it and enjoy.
I love my DRZ so much that i dont think i'll ever get rid of it.. Even if I get a T7 like i've been wanting. I like simple bikes, i dont need all that fancy electronic stuff; i want to be in control.
the problem with the fancy fuel injection on bikes is it's not fancy at all. it's crap. every time you open the throttle it asks the computer a bunch of questions/conditions and the computer spits out its best match from a spreadsheet. and the spreadsheet sucks and even when it doesn't there's still the delay which makes it feel like garbage. HOWEVER, i'm in canada and i don't think i've ever seen ethanol free fuel for sale and carbs hate ethanol. you're just begging for problems using it. so i'm stuck with fuel injection.
Ya, I have 2002 DRZE, lots of miles, and bought a T7 recently. Both great, DRZE, better on the trail...by a mile....two bikes I will never get rid of. In fact contemplating a new DRZS, for the perfect pair/trio.
Ive had a drz400 in the stable for almost ten years now. The one single most important modification i would recommend to everyone is the wide ratio transmission. It's not cheap, but it adresses the main weakness of the bike. Most dual sports are tall, and once the carb is tuned right for your intake and exhaust setup it's just a matter of storing it for the winter with fuel stabilizer. With the wide transmission you can run a sprocket combo that gives you a proper low first and still have a not too buzzy highway gear. In my experience im never searching for gears even though it's still a 5 speed.
Carb is every bit as capable as fuel injection with good jetting. Tall seat height has no bearing on bike choice. Close ratio transmission can be made to work well with keeping a few different CS sprockets in your tool bag for different riding conditions. I have a lot of seat time on the DRZ. I used to swap back and forth from my KTM300 and my buddies DRZ 400. The only downfall was the weight when dropped. DRZ is a tractor and awesome hard core single track weapon. It is also a great adventure bike as long as you keep your miles down to the sub 300 mile days.
"Tall seat height has no bearing on bike choice" Of course it has! If you got short legs and a bike like a tower, you get stuck every now and then, or your bike falls over when you screw up in the woods. Totally depends on the bike's use! Open field: No problem with tall bikes if you are not that tall. Technical terrain: Hell yeah it's a problem!
The DRZ is my second favorite adventure bike behind the DR650. I've found it's easier to make the DR650 a good off roader than it is to make the DRZ a good on roader. Both are great machines.
Who ever makes an EXC500F but with Japanese quality control, engine smoothness, longevity, and service intervals, will own the DP motorcycle market. I have had a DRZ400S and SM. They are great in a vacuum, but after you ride and know better, you really can't go back and be content with 2+ decade old technology and performance levels.
Way Solid bikes .I have a super clean 2007 yellow Suzuki DRZ 400S put a Yoshimura RS2 Full Exhaust Pipe on New sprockets and chain, new Radiators .4,200 original miles. Very impressed with the performance and quality. Been riding motorcycles for 25 years of nearly all makes and models
Great review as always. Love my DRZ, lowered the gearing to be a tractor, don't care about highway speeds. If I'm riding it far from home I'll put it on the trailer. There is no, and never will be a perfect "Do Everything" bike, that's why I own multiple bikes. The DRZ gets pulled from the quiver frequently, even after all these years. Oh, and I refuse to own High Maintenance Bikes, no matter how light and powerful they are.
Great review! I think one of the things that's difficult to quantify on long-running models like this one is the impact of the aftermarket. There are so many issues that the aftermarket has solved over time which can really make on shine. I'd love to see a similar review done of the DR650. It's probably even more of a Swiss Army Knife bike than the DRZ.
But lets be fair, after you have spent the money getting the suspension sorted, the carb modified and all the other upgraded you need to make this bike work well. You would be better off buying a Beta to start with.
@@YourLocalRaccoon I agree that Japanese bikes are known for their reliability. And I've owned many, but my 2016 Beta is just as reliable. Other brands do improve.
@@fredpinczuk7352 I didn't say other brands weren't reliable, but from my personal experience the Japanese brands are just that much more likely to last 20 or 30 years of regular use. Not saying your Beta (or GasGas, I hear they're great too) won't, just that I know a Japanese bike will.
@@YourLocalRaccoon I get it, no hard feelings. It what the Japanese bike are known for, and for good reasons. But the other have caught up. including some Chinese brands that I would not have touched with a 10 foot pool just 5 years ago. In addition, a lot of the critical components made for Japanese brands aren't made in Japan anymore. Cost savings got in the way, so as an example, engines are mostly made in Vietnam and China now.
The wide ratio ACT gearbox is a popular (though somewhat expensive) mod for the DRZ. Let’s you reduce the final drive gear ratio for better low speed performance, but adds 30% taller in 5th gear. Perfect combination…
Agree! It is a bit pricey, but if you are doing a complete engine overhaul, splitting the case, changing bearings etc, I highly recommend this kit. It's like having the coveted 6th gear when you're done.
@@machupikachu1085 I’m still waiting to see someone hack on the EFI from an LT. But I guess by the time you do all these things then other bikes start looking affordable.
After putting in stiffer springs and a bunch of other mods i cant tell you how many times i thought i was going to wipeout on a corner and the thing just auto corrected out of a hickup. Love it.
I have a 'Cape York Edition' purchased here in AUS a couple of years back. The dealer supplied knobby tyres, bashplate, bark busters, fancy handlebars and grips, radiator guards and made the stock muffler loud (I put the cone back in and its bearable). My own changes include, half inch bar-risers, pivot pegz, a 19 litre tank, a Sergeant Seat and I went one-tooth larger on the counter-sprocket. It's better now for stand-up and sit-down riding, I have done 360km of general road and trail riding on a tankful of fuel, and the gearing is a good compromise for single-track if you are prepared to slip the clutch when going very slow and for the open road if you knock 5kmh off your cruising speed (say 95kmh). It's a fabulous bike for general trail-riding. It's a lot tall for me and you do learn not to stop and I have found a little plate added to the foot of the side-stand helps me to stand it up when mounting using the foot pegs. I have only had to pick it up once so far and thank goodness there was someone to help me. Now I am looking into an adjustable lowering link for the rear suspension and sliding the forks up a bit. I hope this will help avoid lifting it up ever again. A great bike.
Update to my post: The adjustable lowering link has worked an absolute treat. I also slid the the forks up a little and the bike looks and feels quite balanced. Being able to adjust the link meant I was able to set it just for me. Being able to almost flat-foot both feet gives you a lot of confidence going into situations although my preference is to stand whenever possible.
Second update: I went one tooth larger on the rear sprocket so now have 15/49 and it has been a great modification. Gearing is very suited for trail riding and the bike still gets along the tarmac OK at about 90-95kmh. BTW I didn't have to change the chain.
It's crazy how a year ago when I subscribed you had something like 20,000 subscribers! I still think this is one of the best motorcycle channels on UA-cam and you deserve all of the massive growth you get. Great work Ian, keep up the great content.
Loved your review of my bike. As a short rider (5'8" 31in inseam) I was intimidated by the seat height. After 6 months of riding, I'm so glad I didn't lower it, you will grow into the height. Also must have is a seat concepts comfort XL seat if you want to ride more than an hour without pain. You can get a steal for around $5k used with all the mods and adventure comforts. Mine came with 14/47 gearing over the 15/44 with stock. I'm going to go in the middle because your dead on about winding out over 50mph. Community for DRZ is great also.
Just what I wanted to hear! I’m 5’8, I literally just picked up a 2016 drz with 1,250 miles with all the mods for 5k. I can’t wait to get on it on my day off
I've got the predecessor the dr350 and I'll likely never sell it. It's awesome. 6 speed btw. Still waiting for someone to come out with 400-450cc di dual sport with long maintenance intervals.... *Crickets*
Had an 01. Geared it down, put on knobbies, did the 3x3 mod, put on an IMS tank, and rode the OR dual sport on it for 5 seasons. Reliable as hell, heavy, needed 6th, was heavy, and had brittle engine side cases. The engine was great, pulled forever and very reliable. The suspension was just OK as compared to my KTM. That said I’m convinced it would be a great ADV bike. I would buy another if Suzuki would add a 6th gear & fuel injection.
good pick as you can forget the DR-650 dual sport unless you like riding with KLR650 's to mexico and back ..but in the woods you will have both feet down in low gear trying to cow trail it on a dry day ..but the DR-Z400S can do every motocross trick in the book ..it just dont have as much hp as an RM '''....i would say its a good beginner bike to keep for always a fun time..tie it down on the rear bumper of your RV camper for a grocery getter !!!
Mt daughter and I did the TaT on drz 400 E's, I've run the T1 out an back twice on the T1, a DRZ400 K(kicker), They rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I typically buy with 2500 miles on them, sell when they cross over 12k miles, before I needed to do top end work. Thank you DRZ for SO many great miles in the dirt. Now I'll use Ktm 500's, all of mine have gone 10k miles where I sell before they needed top ends!!! 19+ Honda CRF450x with a 6 speed, kind of DRZ replacement , power, 6 speed, FI, probably shorter maint interval, but I've never owned one. After my TaT ride, DR650...better. Go sherco too.
Regarding seat height, the 37" height is a bit misleading because the bike has a lot of sag, so that seat drops down to a pretty manageable height. Throw on a Seat Concepts low comfort seat for a 1" drop and this is a great bike for shorter-ish riders (I'm 5'8" and love my DRZ with the SC seat). Excellent forest road a jeep double track bike, and excellent light adventure bike if you can sit on an uncomfortable seat for a while.
I have on. 2019 model. I use Amsoil dirt bike oil and just changed it at 5200 miles! Still looked new. WISH IT HAD A 6TH GEAR!!! Headlight SUCKS, changed it out for LED. I'm very happy with it. Bought a seat concepts seat for it. Stock seat sucks. Bark busters and windshield, and added a Ridgid plastic tool box on a rear rack for my luggage. Works great and it a 10th the cost.
I bought a brand new CRF300L and rode it for about 300 miles and was never comfortable on it, I needed more power and suspension. I traded it for an almost brand new DRZ400s with also 300 miles on it. I liked the DRZ in every category compared to the CRF. The DRZ is still a awesome bike that’s not super expensive. I just sold that DRZ after almost a year and bought a 2022 KLR 650 and I think I’m done for a while. I’m in love with my KLR but I would love to have a DRZ as my secondary bike. I would love to have a T7/KTM/Husky but I can’t spend that insane money to get one. I’m 5’11 and 220 so I like a little bigger bikes, in my opinion if you are average height or smaller and well under 200 pounds the CRF300 might be good for you. If you are a bigger guy go with the DRZ. Love your videos, keep them coming!!
I have the first year DRZ 400 S. Now quite engine modded, but still going strong. Won't sell it anytime soon, because of all the things mentioned in this video. There is just no good enough alternative that is this versatile when it comes to trail/gravel road fun exploring. It allows for just plodding along or ripping it, depending on the mood, and it gladly does it..or put motard wheel kit on it, learn to wheelie and annoy the neighbours:)
Yep, I had a 2001 DRZ and now have a 2009. Love the bike. Also have RMZ450 and WR450. And yer right, the DRZ is just hard core reliable and super fun. I can go all day on the DRZ. Kenda k270 tires are the bomb on it.
Your plea to Suzuki at the end summarizes my sentiments exactly. Suzuki, sort yourselves out, tweak this for the 2020's and get them on the market. And in the UK as well please. Oh aye, Euro5. Oh hey, did we not leave Europe? Never mind :(
DRZ is a great bike. I first became interested in one after watching "The place beyond the pines." I came very close to getting one but there was 1 KLX300 available and I went with the 300. Im loving my 300. The 300 is new technology, no carb, has all the power I need and has 6 speed. The DR-z was also more money.
Please Suzuki, for 2023 release an adventure version; with weather protection, 19' front, smaller rear sprocket for higher top end, bigger fuel tank, LED lighting, better instrument panel with tacho, fuel, and BT link for navigation and better saddle for longer rides. looove this bike.
The height is definitely a factor, or can be. I've ridden everything under the sun and the only bike I've ever dropped, was my DRZ. I also dropped it more than once. Once you get off balance and go to put that foot down, it's a long way down and ultimately you may topple over, which happened to me. For reference, I'm 5'10".
The 2001 drz-e I’ve got has been in the family since…..2003? I think? Thing just won’t die. VERY reliable, VERY low maintenance and when it’s time to freshen up, it’s easy to do. Bit heavy for trails, bit slow for pavement (and the seat is like sitting on a 4x4) but no bike I’ve ridden or been around has had more adventures than the drz. Even my AT.
This is exactly why I won’t sell my DRZ. It’s easy to maintain. The digital dash is easy to read and see with the large numbers and buttons. It’s taken me on a lot of great adventures and has even survived a swim in a river.
I'm just about to buy a 2003 drz450e, it's good to read this that someone else has a 2003 and still does them well. Anything you'd recommend I check / replace, it's at around the 25000km mark. Happy riding
Thank you for the review, excellent and comprehensive! I owned such a motorcycle since the beginning of 2020. I have done with it around 6500 miles. If I conclude, it is a reliable and excellent model, excellent for any selected terrain route and relatively aggressive as a tool for the terrain. For riding on the public road around 60-70 miles is reasonable one .If I conclude this is a winning horse!
If Suzuki did like kawi do with the KLR id buy a new one for sure. Fuel injection, wide ratio gearbox, and an updated dash would make it a very competitive offering today.
Great review, gearing not an issue in NZ as speed limit is 60 mph. For those concerned about seat height get the sm version and install an 19 inch front rim. Better suspension and brakes than an S, although less travel and ground clearance.
I had a 2003 S for about 14 years Finally giving it to my oldest son when I got my 2020 KTM 790 ADV R! Did many mods from trailtech dash to MRD exhaust, ETC. The CV carb is 1970's tech it was a fun bike but when you get older its hard on the bum after 45min. Had two stators go out and thats about all the troubles I had!
4:02. IMS 3.2 gallon tank is a popular upgrade. If someone wants a bigger tank, IMS and Acerbis make bigger tanks that function as radiator shrouds too. They are huge and not recommended for someone that does a lot of trail riding.
So i was shoping for my first bike and i landed on this one. I gotta admit pretty much everything you said is spot on. Picked up a low millage used DRZ 2012, with only 3k miles for 5 grand, and yeah you can do what ever you want. Everywhere i have read about it, the DRZ comes off as a bike that can be be described as "Its 2 wheels and a motor, nothing fancy, but she will always be reliable."
My Yamaha, WR 250X is 13 years old! And it was great competition to your bike ! mines fully modded! But I also appreciate your bike a lot. They’re both very similar Yamaha. It’s a little more refined.
You forgot to compare against the KTM690 which yes is more expensive, but it has better suspension, double the power and about the same weight but has a lower CG. It also has about the same maintenance intervals. I had a DRZ years ago. It was ok for it’s day but I preferred the DR650 with mods better.
I’ve had both the DRZ and the KTM 690. The 690 is a beast! It wants to bring the front end up immediately, and truthfully it was a handful for me. I preferred the milder manners of the DRZ as well as the higher reliability. The KTM clutch disintegrated on me when I was riding solo in Moab - I was super lucky that it failed on the way to the White Rim Trail instead of after descending to the river. But I lost confidence in the bike and sold it.
@@russellperry8635 Yes power in a light package has its issues. I fried my clutch at about 9k. I installed a recluse Torquedrive clutch with the extra three plates and it certainly grabs better. Won’t know how durable it is for a while. All these bikes have their pros and cons.
My biggest beef with carbs is ethanol in the fuel. The DRZ was not my everyday ride, so I had a lot of trouble with the carbs getting jammed up and needing a lot cleaning. I ended up putting a manual petcock in so I could run the carbs dry before putting the bike away for extended periods.
love my dzr400. I had a 2005. I like the tall seat height I even added a higher seat. the only thing I wanted was fuel injection other than that it's a perfect bike. I just wish they would go back to the old colors blue and yellow.
the gearing issue is exactly the same for the dr650. I bought mine used and the person had it geared very high, I'm sure it would hit 160km/h no problem. It was I believe 17/41. It would stall easily on pretty much any dirt road though, it was impossible to ride offroad despite the thousands of dollars worth of mods on it. I geared it down to 14/46 for trail riding, now it barely reaches highway speeds but it's an absolute single track monster. In current setup it weighs about 325 lb wet, and the 40 ft/lb of torque(ish) it has at that weight is insane.
Bang on with your assessment Ian. I've owned one for 8 years after being a pro MX rider from the 80's. My touring has ranged from the arctic circle to Death Valley and get away with the narrow 5 speed by putting on a 16t for the hiway and 14t for the off road. The wide ratio gears that are available my be just enough to make this the unicorn bike for me.
I was wondering about how hard it would be on a DRZ to have 2 front sprockets and change to suit the riding condition your going to mostly be doing that day. Is it a pretty easy swap if ya don't mind me asking. I've got a 1999 street legalized XR 400 but I'm thinking about picking up a second dual sport so a friend and I can do a BDR and the DRZ is at the top of my list.
@@duncdunc76 hi Sean, I've got it down to about 10min. I leave the cover off and carry a short 1/2" drive breaker bar with my combo axle nut wrench/tire spoon for leverage. In gear I hold my right foot on rear brake, right hand on front brake, chest on seat and pull up to loosen the sprocket nut. The snail cam adjusters on the rear axle make it very easy to adjust the chain. I run a 42t rear, so with the same 110 link chain I can run from a 13t to a 16t using the same chain.
@@randykingston5763 Nice! Thanks for the info Randy! Seems like it's a great way to increase the versatility of performance on the already very versatile DRZ.
I would absolutely buy an updated DRZ if they updated the bike, and lowered the seat height to 35”. As a shorter rider, especially on the street, this is imperative. Six speed, fuel injection, and a new look?? I’d be all over it!!
I'd love to see him do an honest re-review of this bike with stuff like; the 3x3 mod, Lectron carby, aftermarket exhaust and maybe header pipe, ACT wide ratio gears paired with a single tooth drop on the front sprocket. I think those mods alone will make him change his mind at least a bit. Lower first gear with still a higher 5th gear even with the front sprocket change, thanks to that ACT wide ratio conversion. 3x3 mod with the exhaust and Lectron carb will really help open up the power, and he already was singing the praises of the suspension so if he took it to a suspension place to have them dial it in really well for him, I think he might change his mind on a lot of his opinions here. Granted, those opinion changes will only matter to the bike in its then modded form, which is costly to say the least, but I still think it would be a valuable video.
Well, I think the DRZ's main competitor is the DR650SE. I owned a 03 DRZ400S, kept it less than a year before moving to a 05 DR650SE. I kept that bike many years, wished I hadn't sold it. The DR is just so much better on road. Mine cruised smoothly at whatever speed I wanted to go up to 85. The DR has no more power than the DRZ, both bikes could use a few more ponies. Yes, the DR has sucky suspension but that can be much improved with simple cheap mods. It's maybe 20-30 pounds heavier than the DRZ but it feels lighter in motion. The DR seat is at least 2" lower, it lugs way lower, making it the better bike in tough going. I dumped both bikes many times (the DR 100's of times!), the DR is definitely easier to pick up. On open flowing dirt the DRZ is superior - I don't think the DR could match it no matter the suspension mods. Regarding the DRZ engine. Yes, a six speed trans would help. However, the fundamental problem is the engine was not designed for this role. The DRZ400 started life as an offroad only playbike, a bike no one was droning along on a highway at 6000-7000 rpm. It just isn't balanced all that well. In the depths of time Suzuki should have refined the balance (and added a 6th gear). Ian, I think an interesting review would be the stock DR650SE VS a reasonably modded DR. I know that modded is a can of worms - the permutations are endless. But I do think you would find in your circle of buddies a DR with the classic must-do mods to the suspension. I did nothing to the engine of mine, but I did go to a pumper carb, waste of money for me (and -5mpg) though some people swear by them. A completely stock DR is only going to differ in that the fork and shock springs are incredibly soft, really compromising offroad capability.
Very interesting outcome. I really hope Suzuki will invest to upgrade the bike. The adventure segment had moved on to bigger bikes and is finally embracing the lighter and middle weight class. This is the perfect opportunity for Suzuki to homologate a new DRZ
I suspect that very few riders would find the carburetor on a DR-Z to be a real complaint, in practice. Sure, you'd be silly to prefer a carb in this day and age, and it would sorely limit your choice of bikes. But I think you'd also be silly to pass over the DR-Z *solely* because it has a carb, if it otherwise fits your style. If you haven't owned a (modern) carbureted bike, I promise it's really not a big deal. Ask any other old guy who's owned a few. The altitude thing is overblown. First off: how many people, honestly, are going up and down thousands and thousands of feet with any regularity-if ever? Even on some epic cross-continent adventure, you'd only encounter one or two mountain ranges. Besides, I have run carbureted bikes past 7,000ft (2,100m) with no adjustments. I didn't notice them struggling any more than my EFI bikes at the same altitude (which is to say, not much in either case). I think some people have the idea that a carbureted bike that runs well at sea level will drown and sputter out at 5,000 feet. Or they imagine trips consumed by constant roadside re-jetting. Hardly-at least not on a *modern* carbureted bike in a decent state of repair. As far as cold starting, it's a wash in my experience. I have had a couple of EFI bikes that hated to start even at 50ºF / 10ºC (what passes for cold in my climate). Then I've had both carbureted and EFI bikes that started just fine in colder temps than that. The only real correlation I've found is that the higher-compression, higher-performance engines tend to be more finicky. Yes, carbureted engines (when cold) definitely like to warm up for a minute or two...not a big deal, you just start it before you put your helmet and gloves on.
Probably the best, most thorough review of this bike I’ve ever seen. Bravo! I hope you could do the same in depth review of the DR650 at some point. I think it would be very helpful. Keep up the outstanding work!
I owned a 2001 in 2006 for a couple years. It was great off road, but sucked on the road. I went from it to a KLR650, then a KLX250S, Himalayan, and now a KLX300SM.
Great review, and very accurate! I just bought one of these about a month ago, it's definitely different having a bike with a carb, but I gotta say, when I take this thing off road, it just GOES! I replaced the stock tires with Dunlop D606s and it just rips through everything now. Definitely love this bike.
I really liked my candy grand blue 07 which was my 1st Dual Sport. Some time after doing all the popular modifications to suit my real preference of 90% dirt, 10% street, I eventually realized I needed 2 bikes. First a light weight 100% off road 2 stroke for more extreme capability on tight single track or steep hill climbs in the mountains or dunes. Second, a 6 speed 100mph capable long maintenance interval capable dual sport. The KTM 690R modified towards an adventure bike is my dual sport choice because highway travel is boring to me unless it's a scenic mountain road to connect me to the next trail.
Reviewers always talk about the weight. But it's actually light when compared to the 300's. Same weight, more power. The KTM 390 ADV is about 50 pounds heavier. CB500x or KLR650 are well over 100 pounds heavier. So comparatively, on paper, it's light. I guess the question is, why are the 300's so heavy and have a lot of plastics on them even.
Agreed. A tail tidy, lithium battery, and LED lighting will make the DRZ almost exactly the same weight as the KLX 300, but with 50% more hp and torque. I don't care how 'finicky' a carb gets at different altitudes, it ain't going to lose 50% horsepower lol
If you'll be doing technical trails, you'll be learning early on that using the clutch is key for most situations. Because of the grunt of the DRZ400, the high first gear and feathering the clutch has not been an issue for me! Coming from a 2001 KX250 2 stroke, this thing is FAR FAR easier to ride on technical trails.
My 2010 DRZ400E ( common in OZ) which is now my ADV mount again , since I sold my Tiger800. Like many riders here my DRZ has a Safari tank fitted ( 17L or 28 L) . I fitted an ACT wide ratio gear set so it will just laze along at 60 mph (our State's speed limit) and will sit at 70 mph all day easily. I fitted stiffer springs and valving and being your height, I dropped the seat height 40mm by internal shock changes, and put 320mm front disc on it for when I have luggage. As a mini-ADV bike my only complaint is that wind knocks it around. The E model dominates the Oz market as it is street legal and has more power/ less weight than the S model.
I am on my third DRZ400 right now. I keep trying different bikes but keeping going back to the old girl. Tried an true beats new and improved it seems.
The DRZ-400 is my absolute favorite dual sport for riding in the woods. Ergonomically, it feels very similar to my KTM 450 EX-C so it's comfortable for me. It's 50 lbs. heavier but, you don't feel that weight until you get into the really gnarly stuff. TONS of fun in the woods but, the low gearing makes it too vibey for long hours of highway use.... I'd really like to see Suzuki build a DR-Z500 keeping the weight the same or very close but, having the ability to cruise 70 on the highway without buzzing my hands to sleep, yet still having the low end to conquer off road challenges.
Love my DRZ. Lots of the things people say are bad points about them actually work in my favor. I'm 6'4", on smaller frame bikes my legs feel too folded up to be comfortable. Carbs, anything goes wrong out in the trails all it takes is a very simple tool kit to sort out issues. Only 5 gears, changed out the rear sprocket for 3 fewer teeth and is in the sweet spot for freeway and trails (with clutching.) Will be upgrading my 02' to a 22' very soon.
350-400cc is the sweet spot, always was, and watching the small bikes slowly inch up in displacement confirms this. Your video is hammer on nail but missed a few points in my opinion. 1) you’re absolutely correct on the line up of customers if they added FI and a sixth cog. Sad part is Suzuki has waited too long to do it as pretty much all the engineers who made it are already retired…the new crew will either want to clean sheet it for regulations (euro5/ABS, etc..) or to meet some marketing groups vision; so that’s out the window…chances are cost and weight would skyrocket… 2) Buying used isn’t as easy as you’d think, in my province there are only 5 used DRZ’s for sale today, and all of them are SM’s… 3) I think you might have missed a third competing segment; big thumpers (DR/KLR/XR). A lot of people considering one of these bigger machines see the DRZ as a viable compromise due to the dirt bias design. I struggled with it and still don’t know if my decision was the right compromise (a highly modded DR). 4) Great bike and a great video; keep them coming Thanks,
AMAZING bike. i got a 2020 DRZ400. my take on the bike is that, stock form, its OK. it needs to be modified to either dirt or street to show its full potential. its a beautiful bike to mess around on. its only 300 pounds or so too. as for my DRZ, i turned it completely to street. 38T rear, 15t front, IMS fuel tank, street tires. the bike is a fucking beauty now
24:05 As for the point of carburetion, I think it might be best to simply replace the stock carb with a Lectron or equivalent, and if you've saved money on an older bike, you'll still be ahead despite that expense. The Lectron type of carb by its nature automatically compensates for temp and elevation changes. You get this great benefit without being dependent on high tech electronics, various components and sensors, and of course more connectors which could be drowned out or fail.
Back in the 1970s Suzuki had the TC series of bikes. It had a mechanical switch on the cases with Hi/low ratios of gearing . Suzuki should do that for the DRZ 400 and DR 650. For that matter other manufacturers should do that . 😃
Great video again. I'd be interested to know from a journalism perspective as to whether top brass at motorcycle companies ever get confronted by the question: "You know we all want a 40-50hp machine with good suspension/ground clearance, wide gearing and relaxed service intervals, why don't you make one?". Is it because the kind of journalists who might ask that question don't get invited to the big press meetings presumably because the real answer is "well if we made that then no one would buy our $25000 machines"? I mean I think AJP have done a really good job with the PR7 but it falls down with the service intervals (presumably cos they can't develop their own engines) - i.e., there are bikes out there that show it could be done, including the DRZ.
Great review Ian. DRZ's are very popular in Australia and there are squillions of parts for them. The reason it doesn't get updated is because it will have to meet euro4/5 standards being a register-able vehicle and will have to have ABS standard and other stuff. The cost will skyrocket by a few grand......look how much the Honda CT125 postie bike costs after being efi'ed, Abs, etc. Suzuki don't have to pass any epa laws with the current bike.
Thank god for this loophole. I actually don't want to see this bike updated or the DR650 for that matter. Love the old school carbureted engines with minimal electronics/assists. I know that regardless, eventually they'll be forced to comply or die but hope we've got some time left yet. Yes they've already screwed up the CT125. Almost jumped at the opportunity to own one until I read EFI, ABS.
I did enjoy my one, uprated springs to cope with my 'robust' build, larger fuel tank, Renthal fat bars, Bark Busters...I sold it and within a week the guy cracked the engine cases as he failed to change the chain sprockets as I had told him needed doing....
In Australia we still get the DRZ 400 E. , it can to Australia 🇦🇺 in 1999 , then it only had a kick starter and was not road legal , 2000 they made it street legal added the electric start and also the E model had the Pumper Carby ( same as WR 400 )
The E model is faster with the Keihin carbie. Most of us in Oz add a Safari tank ( 17 or 28 L) and a small wind screen, fit 15/44 sprockets and ride them all over the country. I have added stiffer springs and a re-valve. I am 5'11" too and found the seat height too tall, so I had the rear shock shortened and dropped the forks through the triple clamps.. I fitted an ACT gear set to make travel at 60-70 mph/ 100-110 kph easier, but in my opinion the motor would be better pull the taller "pseudo 6th" gear with a 440 kit fitted.
Spot on! Very good review. Have a 12, bought new. Love to ride it and most miles have been in the AZ and So. Cal deserts and San Berdoo Mountains. Agreed, an update would be a game changer!
I don't think Suzuki plans on updating to much anytime soon. I believe motocross action mag stated this in the latest RMZ 450 review. They said something along the lines how they are mostly selling small commuting scooters to foreign countries. Anyway, thanks for the content! I like binging on your reviews when I have time to kill. Seat height can be a good thing too. More ground clearance and suspension travel for more serious off roading. It allows a better extention of the knees for taller riders. While riding off road in more extreme cases, no one should be stopping to flat foot a technical section or off camber hill. Keep moving!
I've been through a lot of bikes the last couple years, for a variety of reasons, including the CRF450L, CRF300L Rally, and DRZ400S (my 2nd DRZ). I'm currently on a KTM 500 EXC-F and Tenere 700, but if I could only have one motorcycle, it would be the DRZ. I've done a number of videos on all these bikes as well and my thoughts echo yours almost exactly. We spoke on the phone about my CRF450L which you were interested in, and I would love to see you do a review of that bike.
I had this bike along with 40+ others and right now I’m enjoying my ‘22 CRF450RL. I feel if you update the DRZ to be in the current environment and you want long term durability you need to pay for it and for me the Honda is a great option. It doesn’t stall at slow speeds anymore and it does everything much better than the DRZ. It’s heavy compared to other bikes out right now but if you strip off what they already don’t offer it gets pretty close and if I can ride fast on single track with it so can anyone.
You get a heck of a lot for that price difference. The DRZ is a too top heavy off road and vibrates you to death as it screams down the road at 55mph. Just came off of a ride today with my son on my crf450rl and me on my africa twin and he was keeping up with me just fine. We rode in the mountains, a little highway and through town. Plus it’s a riot off road. We went to Moab a couple weeks ago and rode in the sand and rocks and it was awesome. Best all around bike I’ve ever had.
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I had a DRZ back in 06-08 and it was good for what it was- getting me back into the sport, after a 25 yr absence. Shortly I moved to more dirt oriented bikes & 4 bikes later, haven looked back. My thoughts mirror yours, the 5 speed was a huge drawback after a while & a few other issues. For the price, it's not bad.
However, I'd suggest the Beta 390 is what you should measure against the DRZ400. Yes, it's more money, but it's also the bike that the DRZ should have evolved into.(interestingly, Suzuki actually built a prototype DRZ 4xx in 2008, based on all the things everyone had been asking for; 6 speed, lighter, better suspension, juice clutch etc. Then the financial crisis hit and Suzuki crushed the bike - too bad)
The Beta 390 is one of the most versatile and effective bikes on the market today. It's a lovely bike on trails, 2-track, and hardcore competition. It handles and stops very well & always has enough power without wearing you out. It is a very exceptional bike & is worth the premium. It excels off road and is as good, or better than the DRZ on back roads and mild highway stints. The DRZ does excel at lower maintenance and engine longevity, but still, many, many guys are exceeding 500hrs on the 390s without any significant engine costs or wear.
Take 100 riders and have them ride both in all conditions and ask them to pick--- I doubt any of them would choose the DRZ over the Beta. All over them will find the extra 5k to pay for it.
I first rode a 390 in late 2015 or early 2016 and was immediately impressed. I said to myself- 'This is the bike Suzuki should have developed the DRZ into!' I've since convinced quite a few people to buy one and not one has regretted it.
If you haven't tested one, I highly recommend it. ;)
@@thezoomguys385 an extra $5,000 dollars is a significant amount
@@p9raceway759 Lots of guys spend more than that on DRZ improvements, trying to make them a better bike....
@@3canctheayr when the mods start it’s possible to go overboard.
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14 years and 43K miles on my DRZ. I adjusted the valves at 20K miles and have been waiting for it to become hard to start ever since. 15/44 (factory) gearing runs 65mph just fine. Pick up your pace and learn clutch control on the single track and it's a non-issue. I can afford any bike right now but I just like to ride and not work on bikes every 3K miles. I change the oil and ride on. Excellent review btw. subscribed.
Hey there, I just bought my first drz 2022 off the floor. I haven’t had any issues riding at 65 feels great there for type of bike it is! Also I heard these bikes are meant to run high rpm so if you got to throttle out nothing to worry about! I will probly upgrade some things little by little but I am very content right now! Love it
That's cool to hear! Are you at 43k with no engine work?
I have a 2020 DRZ. I run on the freeway 65-70 all the time no problem. I have seen videos where the 300s with 6 speeds struggle to run that speed. They are wide open with throttle pegged. I still have throttle left and can accelerate if needed. Even though the DRZ is a 5 speed the overall gearing allows it to travel at freeway speeds no problem.
Question man just got a drz what kinda maintenance needs to be done to keep it running this is my first vehicle does it need oil ? Engine fluid any advice would help
There’s an 08 I’ve been thinking about buying with 20k miles. The only thing that scared me was that it said “top end just rebuilt” but reading ur comment I’m guessing that just meant valves adjusted? Is that just common maintenance at 20k?
carbs dont fail they go forever
I have had 30 bike in the past 50 years. I currently have a BMW F800GS and a DRZ400. The DRZ is one of the best bikes I have ever had. The carb is not issue whatsoever. The 5 speed trans is just something I have to live with. But, the engine is like a tractor and is just what I need for the places I ride it. Tons of low end power where all the other dual sport only have power at high RPM. This is not the bike for every one but it's the only bike in it's class for those who do need it.
I just purchased my first dual sport bike, rode dirt bikes and street bikes for years but recently purchased a 2023 DRZ400 and have enjoyed it so far and like the long standing reputation the DRZ400 holds.
I wish Honda would still make the XR400. It was the DRZ400's only competitor, but then Honda totally dropped the ball by halting their production.
Agreed. The XR400 is a great bike.
Crf450RL is so much better
Ride a Beta 390 & you'll never look back. Yes, a bit more maintenance intensive than the DRZ, but it excels so well in every other aspect, that you'll forget about that issue.
Couldn't agree more. XR400L would be perfect!
@@sxj016 Beta is the very bike your describing!
I just drove home the champion Yellow 2023 model of this bike, and plan to mod it out. But bottom line is even with 5 gears and carburetor. I absolutely Love this bike!
That is exactly what everyone says! and why i'm buying a 2024 this week!
This bike is perfect for me, because I'm tall and don't fit other bikes that well But I have a 2023 champion yellow DRZ-400S, no safety features such as traction control or abs and it doesn't need those, it's so lightweight and nimble and the throttle response is like really no other plus you can't go wrong with the bright yellow bike
Totally agree. Suzuki can do 2 things to own the market:
- DRZ upgrades (as you said) EFI and 6-spd transmission
- DR650 suspension, EFI, and 6-spd transmission.
They’d own this market.
Suzuki can't upgrade to efi without the expensive investment to pass current emission standards. They leave it as is so it can be grandfathered in as related to EPA standards. Put the wide ratio gear set in and good to go.
I don't want EFI... I am looking at this bike BECAUSE it is simple and old school. Maybe they should add 1 more gear, but that's all they should change from what I can see. If you want EFI and all that, why not just get a KTM 690? Why mess up this perfectly fine bike with all that techno crud?
EFI is finally here, on the 2025 DR-Z4S
I bought a new 2021 DR-Z400SM as my first bike. It’s a blast.
I’ve had mine for ten years. Engine is completely stock and I’ve had zero problems. I’m 5’9” and the low Seat Concepts works for me. It’s a pleasure to work on and modify.
wow ten years!!! how often did you change oil
My first dual sport was a ts250 suzuki from the 70's. I've owned many bikes since at 54 I'm coming full circle and purchasing a DZR400 very soon! So excited!
I've put 29,000 miles on my 2018 DRZ 400S and have to conclude.............It is the ultimate second motorcycle. The engine is a gem, as is the suspension. The carburetor is a non issue on this Japanese beauty; Maintenance and filter checks ladies and gentlemen, basic stuff. My personal largest critique (besides the seat)............stock fuel capacity. Both can be remedied in the aftermarket.
100 miles give or take, not terrible
I think it could use a 6th gear and a fuel gauge to be a usable dual sport. If the carb was a non issue then it wouldn't take up the majority of the posts on forums lol.
@@LargetalonsThe majority of discussion I see on forums is just talking about jetting and whether or not it’s necessary -not complaining about the stock carb. Any carburetor bike is going to have a discussion about the carb.
A sixth gear would be nice but it isn’t necessary. Just don’t buy a brand new one, let some other goofball do it and then cop it for 5k with a couple thousand miles on it instead of 7k with dealership fees
I have most of the aftermarket goodies on mine and it rips. My one lament is a fuel gauge. It’s just a little more thinking to deal with but I prefer the convenience of a gauge.
I sure miss my DRZ. I traded it for the 22 KLR. I’m enjoying the KLR as it is sooooo much more comfortable on the highway. I agree that I’d buy another DRZ in a heartbeat if the just put a 6 speed transmission in it. For me it was not comfortable at 70 mph. If they also lowered the seat and gave it fuel injection that would be icing on the cake! Thanks for the great video!
Sargent's Seat, 2 inch lowering link, Pro Taper bars.
I think the issue there is just taking a bike not really meeeant for modern highway travel onto the highway. Some bikes just aren’t comfortable doing certain things. I’d say most dual sports aren’t designed or expected to go on the highway for more than a few minutes if you’re traveling somewhere and can’t avoid it. KLX300 can get up to 65-70 (depending on the rider) but I would never run it at the speed for longer than a few minutes
In Canada, the price difference between the CRF300L and the DR-Z is really not that much. The CR is $7500, or 7800 with ABS, while the DR-Z is $8000
What I really want to see is a comparison between the DR-Z400 and DR650.
I've ridden my buddies drz the past 8 year's when I visit him in Texas, doing many8-10 hr days. I'm 6'4" and it does feel tall to me too. After riding his , I recently bought one to compliment my R1200gs. Love them bboth for different types of riding.
As a DR650 Owner, I have 0 issues w/ a carb. 26K and zero problems. Very easy to service or modify. The 400 could be modded easily with lowering links, W/R gears, and a jet/air box kit.
Put good oil in it and enjoy.
Just watched this now.There is something charming about such a simple bike with no electronics,easy servicing etc.A really cool commuter
I love my DRZ so much that i dont think i'll ever get rid of it..
Even if I get a T7 like i've been wanting.
I like simple bikes, i dont need all that fancy electronic stuff; i want to be in control.
the problem with the fancy fuel injection on bikes is it's not fancy at all. it's crap. every time you open the throttle it asks the computer a bunch of questions/conditions and the computer spits out its best match from a spreadsheet. and the spreadsheet sucks and even when it doesn't there's still the delay which makes it feel like garbage.
HOWEVER, i'm in canada and i don't think i've ever seen ethanol free fuel for sale and carbs hate ethanol. you're just begging for problems using it. so i'm stuck with fuel injection.
Don’t get rid of it, I’m on my 3rd DR for personal reasons and I’ll never sell this one
Ya, I have 2002 DRZE, lots of miles, and bought a T7 recently. Both great, DRZE, better on the trail...by a mile....two bikes I will never get rid of. In fact contemplating a new DRZS, for the perfect pair/trio.
@@human__________ yeah, because I'm sure your car has a carburetor.
Ive had a drz400 in the stable for almost ten years now. The one single most important modification i would recommend to everyone is the wide ratio transmission. It's not cheap, but it adresses the main weakness of the bike.
Most dual sports are tall, and once the carb is tuned right for your intake and exhaust setup it's just a matter of storing it for the winter with fuel stabilizer.
With the wide transmission you can run a sprocket combo that gives you a proper low first and still have a not too buzzy highway gear. In my experience im never searching for gears even though it's still a 5 speed.
Carb is every bit as capable as fuel injection with good jetting. Tall seat height has no bearing on bike choice. Close ratio transmission can be made to work well with keeping a few different CS sprockets in your tool bag for different riding conditions. I have a lot of seat time on the DRZ. I used to swap back and forth from my KTM300 and my buddies DRZ 400. The only downfall was the weight when dropped. DRZ is a tractor and awesome hard core single track weapon. It is also a great adventure bike as long as you keep your miles down to the sub 300 mile days.
"Tall seat height has no bearing on bike choice"
Of course it has! If you got short legs and a bike like a tower, you get stuck every now and then, or your bike falls over when you screw up in the woods.
Totally depends on the bike's use!
Open field: No problem with tall bikes if you are not that tall.
Technical terrain: Hell yeah it's a problem!
The DRZ is my second favorite adventure bike behind the DR650. I've found it's easier to make the DR650 a good off roader than it is to make the DRZ a good on roader. Both are great machines.
FCR carb, 15/39 gearing and Seat Concepts or Sergeant saddle. Highway machine extraordinaire. You're welcome.😊
Yeah, I Like The Way You Put That. I Prefer An Air-cooled, Carbureted Bike As Well.
@@machupikachu1085 trailing a heavy bike with highway gears, oh thanks for that.
@@Largetalons I'm just trying to help, Giggles. Maybe learn how to feather a clutch?
Who ever makes an EXC500F but with Japanese quality control, engine smoothness, longevity, and service intervals, will own the DP motorcycle market. I have had a DRZ400S and SM. They are great in a vacuum, but after you ride and know better, you really can't go back and be content with 2+ decade old technology and performance levels.
Way Solid bikes .I have a super clean 2007 yellow Suzuki DRZ 400S put a Yoshimura RS2 Full Exhaust Pipe on New sprockets and chain, new Radiators .4,200 original miles. Very impressed with the performance and quality. Been riding motorcycles for 25 years of nearly all makes and models
Great review as always. Love my DRZ, lowered the gearing to be a tractor, don't care about highway speeds. If I'm riding it far from home
I'll put it on the trailer. There is no, and never will be a perfect "Do Everything" bike, that's why I own multiple bikes. The DRZ gets pulled
from the quiver frequently, even after all these years. Oh, and I refuse to own High Maintenance Bikes, no matter how light and powerful
they are.
I also lowered he gearing and always choose it over my KTM for enduro rides
What did you do to lower the gearing?
@@mac65utube go down a tooth on the front sprocket and/or up a few teeth on the rear sprocket
Great review! I think one of the things that's difficult to quantify on long-running models like this one is the impact of the aftermarket. There are so many issues that the aftermarket has solved over time which can really make on shine. I'd love to see a similar review done of the DR650. It's probably even more of a Swiss Army Knife bike than the DRZ.
But lets be fair, after you have spent the money getting the suspension sorted, the carb modified and all the other upgraded you need to make this bike work well. You would be better off buying a Beta to start with.
@@fredpinczuk7352 but you give up that Suzuki dependability and reliability.
@@YourLocalRaccoon I agree that Japanese bikes are known for their reliability. And I've owned many, but my 2016 Beta is just as reliable. Other brands do improve.
@@fredpinczuk7352 I didn't say other brands weren't reliable, but from my personal experience the Japanese brands are just that much more likely to last 20 or 30 years of regular use. Not saying your Beta (or GasGas, I hear they're great too) won't, just that I know a Japanese bike will.
@@YourLocalRaccoon I get it, no hard feelings. It what the Japanese bike are known for, and for good reasons. But the other have caught up. including some Chinese brands that I would not have touched with a 10 foot pool just 5 years ago. In addition, a lot of the critical components made for Japanese brands aren't made in Japan anymore. Cost savings got in the way, so as an example, engines are mostly made in Vietnam and China now.
The wide ratio ACT gearbox is a popular (though somewhat expensive) mod for the DRZ. Let’s you reduce the final drive gear ratio for better low speed performance, but adds 30% taller in 5th gear. Perfect combination…
Agree! It is a bit pricey, but if you are doing a complete engine overhaul, splitting the case, changing bearings etc, I highly recommend this kit. It's like having the coveted 6th gear when you're done.
@@mikaeljonsson2078 this and the FCR and we have our unicorn! :D
@@machupikachu1085 I’m still waiting to see someone hack on the EFI from an LT. But I guess by the time you do all these things then other bikes start looking affordable.
After putting in stiffer springs and a bunch of other mods i cant tell you how many times i thought i was going to wipeout on a corner and the thing just auto corrected out of a hickup. Love it.
I have a 'Cape York Edition' purchased here in AUS a couple of years back. The dealer supplied knobby tyres, bashplate, bark busters, fancy handlebars and grips, radiator guards and made the stock muffler loud (I put the cone back in and its bearable).
My own changes include, half inch bar-risers, pivot pegz, a 19 litre tank, a Sergeant Seat and I went one-tooth larger on the counter-sprocket. It's better now for stand-up and sit-down riding, I have done 360km of general road and trail riding on a tankful of fuel, and the gearing is a good compromise for single-track if you are prepared to slip the clutch when going very slow and for the open road if you knock 5kmh off your cruising speed (say 95kmh). It's a fabulous bike for general trail-riding.
It's a lot tall for me and you do learn not to stop and I have found a little plate added to the foot of the side-stand helps me to stand it up when mounting using the foot pegs. I have only had to pick it up once so far and thank goodness there was someone to help me. Now I am looking into an adjustable lowering link for the rear suspension and sliding the forks up a bit. I hope this will help avoid lifting it up ever again.
A great bike.
Update to my post: The adjustable lowering link has worked an absolute treat. I also slid the the forks up a little and the bike looks and feels quite balanced. Being able to adjust the link meant I was able to set it just for me. Being able to almost flat-foot both feet gives you a lot of confidence going into situations although my preference is to stand whenever possible.
Second update: I went one tooth larger on the rear sprocket so now have 15/49 and it has been a great modification. Gearing is very suited for trail riding and the bike still gets along the tarmac OK at about 90-95kmh. BTW I didn't have to change the chain.
It's crazy how a year ago when I subscribed you had something like 20,000 subscribers! I still think this is one of the best motorcycle channels on UA-cam and you deserve all of the massive growth you get. Great work Ian, keep up the great content.
Yeah the quality of the content on this channel is consistently top notch.
Loved your review of my bike. As a short rider (5'8" 31in inseam) I was intimidated by the seat height. After 6 months of riding, I'm so glad I didn't lower it, you will grow into the height. Also must have is a seat concepts comfort XL seat if you want to ride more than an hour without pain. You can get a steal for around $5k used with all the mods and adventure comforts. Mine came with 14/47 gearing over the 15/44 with stock. I'm going to go in the middle because your dead on about winding out over 50mph. Community for DRZ is great also.
Just what I wanted to hear! I’m 5’8, I literally just picked up a 2016 drz with 1,250 miles with all the mods for 5k. I can’t wait to get on it on my day off
I think the most relevant competition for this bike may be Suzuki’s own, even more archaic DR650.
I've got the predecessor the dr350 and I'll likely never sell it. It's awesome. 6 speed btw. Still waiting for someone to come out with 400-450cc di dual sport with long maintenance intervals.... *Crickets*
Yeah, not sure why Suzuki dropped the ball with dropping a gear for the 350's successor. Was it a torque issue?
Had an 01. Geared it down, put on knobbies, did the 3x3 mod, put on an IMS tank, and rode the OR dual sport on it for 5 seasons. Reliable as hell, heavy, needed 6th, was heavy, and had brittle engine side cases. The engine was great, pulled forever and very reliable. The suspension was just OK as compared to my KTM. That said I’m convinced it would be a great ADV bike. I would buy another if Suzuki would add a 6th gear & fuel injection.
Everything is correct about this bike! 15 years ago I tried to own DRZ400, but sold it soon because of its high seat and 5-speed gearbox.
good pick as you can forget the DR-650 dual sport unless you like riding with KLR650 's to mexico and back ..but in the woods you will have both feet down in low gear trying to cow trail it on a dry day ..but the DR-Z400S can do every motocross trick in the book ..it just dont have as much hp as an RM '''....i would say its a good beginner bike to keep for always a fun time..tie it down on the rear bumper of your RV camper for a grocery getter !!!
Mt daughter and I did the TaT on drz 400 E's, I've run the T1 out an back twice on the T1, a DRZ400 K(kicker), They rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I typically buy with 2500 miles on them, sell when they cross over 12k miles, before I needed to do top end work.
Thank you DRZ for SO many great miles in the dirt.
Now I'll use Ktm 500's, all of mine have gone 10k miles where I sell before they needed top ends!!!
19+ Honda CRF450x with a 6 speed, kind of DRZ replacement , power, 6 speed, FI, probably shorter maint interval, but I've never owned one.
After my TaT ride, DR650...better. Go sherco too.
That engine also worked extremely well in the Suzuki sport Quad (LTZ - 400). I got to ride one years ago, it was excellent!!
Clutch my friend
It’s all about you, rpm’s n clutch that’s it
Regarding seat height, the 37" height is a bit misleading because the bike has a lot of sag, so that seat drops down to a pretty manageable height. Throw on a Seat Concepts low comfort seat for a 1" drop and this is a great bike for shorter-ish riders (I'm 5'8" and love my DRZ with the SC seat). Excellent forest road a jeep double track bike, and excellent light adventure bike if you can sit on an uncomfortable seat for a while.
I have on. 2019 model. I use Amsoil dirt bike oil and just changed it at 5200 miles! Still looked new. WISH IT HAD A 6TH GEAR!!! Headlight SUCKS, changed it out for LED. I'm very happy with it. Bought a seat concepts seat for it. Stock seat sucks. Bark busters and windshield, and added a Ridgid plastic tool box on a rear rack for my luggage. Works great and it a 10th the cost.
I bought a brand new CRF300L and rode it for about 300 miles and was never comfortable on it, I needed more power and suspension. I traded it for an almost brand new DRZ400s with also 300 miles on it. I liked the DRZ in every category compared to the CRF. The DRZ is still a awesome bike that’s not super expensive. I just sold that DRZ after almost a year and bought a 2022 KLR 650 and I think I’m done for a while. I’m in love with my KLR but I would love to have a DRZ as my secondary bike. I would love to have a T7/KTM/Husky but I can’t spend that insane money to get one. I’m 5’11 and 220 so I like a little bigger bikes, in my opinion if you are average height or smaller and well under 200 pounds the CRF300 might be good for you. If you are a bigger guy go with the DRZ. Love your videos, keep them coming!!
22k miles and 18 years later, I still love my DRZ. I do have a deposit on the new 2025 model though.
I have the first year DRZ 400 S. Now quite engine modded, but still going strong. Won't sell it anytime soon, because of all the things mentioned in this video. There is just no good enough alternative that is this versatile when it comes to trail/gravel road fun exploring. It allows for just plodding along or ripping it, depending on the mood, and it gladly does it..or put motard wheel kit on it, learn to wheelie and annoy the neighbours:)
Killer review man you encapsulated all the pros and cons of the DRZ. And I love your wish list sweet Jesus I wish Suzuki is listening!
I have a 2000 dr-z400s my dad bought brand new in 99 I got it when he past in 2016 I love it I would get a new one
Yep, I had a 2001 DRZ and now have a 2009. Love the bike. Also have RMZ450 and WR450. And yer right, the DRZ is just hard core reliable and super fun. I can go all day on the DRZ. Kenda k270 tires are the bomb on it.
Your plea to Suzuki at the end summarizes my sentiments exactly. Suzuki, sort yourselves out, tweak this for the 2020's and get them on the market. And in the UK as well please. Oh aye, Euro5. Oh hey, did we not leave Europe? Never mind :(
Thank you for an honest professional opinion on the bike. I just bought one.
DRZ is a great bike. I first became interested in one after watching "The place beyond the pines." I came very close to getting one but there was 1 KLX300 available and I went with the 300. Im loving my 300. The 300 is new technology, no carb, has all the power I need and has 6 speed. The DR-z was also more money.
Same here, watched the place beyond the pines and was infatuated right away
Please Suzuki, for 2023 release an adventure version; with weather protection, 19' front, smaller rear sprocket for higher top end, bigger fuel tank, LED lighting, better instrument panel with tacho, fuel, and BT link for navigation and better saddle for longer rides. looove this bike.
Why would you want a smaller front wheel... If you want more of a street oriented drz there is always the SM or a dr650
VStrom. Leave the DRZ alone.
21” front is preferred in the dirt.
I love this channel - Every time I want to see a bike review and I see you have done one I get super excited! great content - thank you!
The height is definitely a factor, or can be. I've ridden everything under the sun and the only bike I've ever dropped, was my DRZ. I also dropped it more than once. Once you get off balance and go to put that foot down, it's a long way down and ultimately you may topple over, which happened to me. For reference, I'm 5'10".
The 2001 drz-e I’ve got has been in the family since…..2003? I think? Thing just won’t die. VERY reliable, VERY low maintenance and when it’s time to freshen up, it’s easy to do. Bit heavy for trails, bit slow for pavement (and the seat is like sitting on a 4x4) but no bike I’ve ridden or been around has had more adventures than the drz. Even my AT.
This is exactly why I won’t sell my DRZ. It’s easy to maintain. The digital dash is easy to read and see with the large numbers and buttons. It’s taken me on a lot of great adventures and has even survived a swim in a river.
Celibrate it's birthday with a Sergent or Seat Concepts saddle. Your butt will thank me.
I'm just about to buy a 2003 drz450e, it's good to read this that someone else has a 2003 and still does them well. Anything you'd recommend I check / replace, it's at around the 25000km mark. Happy riding
Thank you for the review, excellent and comprehensive! I owned such a motorcycle since the beginning of 2020. I have done with it around 6500 miles. If I conclude, it is a reliable and excellent model, excellent for any selected terrain route and relatively aggressive as a tool for the terrain. For riding on the public road around 60-70 miles is reasonable one .If I conclude this is a winning horse!
If Suzuki did like kawi do with the KLR id buy a new one for sure. Fuel injection, wide ratio gearbox, and an updated dash would make it a very competitive offering today.
Great review, gearing not an issue in NZ as speed limit is 60 mph. For those concerned about seat height get the sm version and install an 19 inch front rim. Better suspension and brakes than an S, although less travel and ground clearance.
The forks are thinner/weaker on the sm so I wouldn't really call it better.
I had a 2003 S for about 14 years Finally giving it to my oldest son when I got my 2020 KTM 790 ADV R! Did many mods from trailtech dash to MRD exhaust, ETC. The CV carb is 1970's tech it was a fun bike but when you get older its hard on the bum after 45min. Had two stators go out and thats about all the troubles I had!
4:02. IMS 3.2 gallon tank is a popular upgrade. If someone wants a bigger tank, IMS and Acerbis make bigger tanks that function as radiator shrouds too. They are huge and not recommended for someone that does a lot of trail riding.
So i was shoping for my first bike and i landed on this one. I gotta admit pretty much everything you said is spot on. Picked up a low millage used DRZ 2012, with only 3k miles for 5 grand, and yeah you can do what ever you want. Everywhere i have read about it, the DRZ comes off as a bike that can be be described as "Its 2 wheels and a motor, nothing fancy, but she will always be reliable."
My Yamaha, WR 250X is 13 years old! And it was great competition to your bike ! mines fully modded! But I also appreciate your bike a lot. They’re both very similar Yamaha. It’s a little more refined.
You forgot to compare against the KTM690 which yes is more expensive, but it has better suspension, double the power and about the same weight but has a lower CG. It also has about the same maintenance intervals. I had a DRZ years ago. It was ok for it’s day but I preferred the DR650 with mods better.
Then again, that 690 has about half the engine life 😋
@@Nightdare Not so. It’s not high strung like the dirt bikes. I know some who have over 67,000 miles on their 690.
I’ve had both the DRZ and the KTM 690. The 690 is a beast! It wants to bring the front end up immediately, and truthfully it was a handful for me. I preferred the milder manners of the DRZ as well as the higher reliability. The KTM clutch disintegrated on me when I was riding solo in Moab - I was super lucky that it failed on the way to the White Rim Trail instead of after descending to the river. But I lost confidence in the bike and sold it.
@@russellperry8635 Yes power in a light package has its issues. I fried my clutch at about 9k. I installed a recluse Torquedrive clutch with the extra three plates and it certainly grabs better. Won’t know how durable it is for a while. All these bikes have their pros and cons.
My biggest beef with carbs is ethanol in the fuel. The DRZ was not my everyday ride, so I had a lot of trouble with the carbs getting jammed up and needing a lot cleaning. I ended up putting a manual petcock in so I could run the carbs dry before putting the bike away for extended periods.
I thought it had a petcock already? Either way, good advice!
@@machupikachu1085 the ‘06 I had came with a vacuum shutoff. I’m pretty sure that was and is standard.
love my dzr400. I had a 2005. I like the tall seat height I even added a higher seat. the only thing I wanted was fuel injection other than that it's a perfect bike. I just wish they would go back to the old colors blue and yellow.
the gearing issue is exactly the same for the dr650. I bought mine used and the person had it geared very high, I'm sure it would hit 160km/h no problem. It was I believe 17/41. It would stall easily on pretty much any dirt road though, it was impossible to ride offroad despite the thousands of dollars worth of mods on it. I geared it down to 14/46 for trail riding, now it barely reaches highway speeds but it's an absolute single track monster. In current setup it weighs about 325 lb wet, and the 40 ft/lb of torque(ish) it has at that weight is insane.
Bang on with your assessment Ian. I've owned one for 8 years after being a pro MX rider from the 80's. My touring has ranged from the arctic circle to Death Valley and get away with the narrow 5 speed by putting on a 16t for the hiway and 14t for the off road. The wide ratio gears that are available my be just enough to make this the unicorn bike for me.
I was wondering about how hard it would be on a DRZ to have 2 front sprockets and change to suit the riding condition your going to mostly be doing that day. Is it a pretty easy swap if ya don't mind me asking. I've got a 1999 street legalized XR 400 but I'm thinking about picking up a second dual sport so a friend and I can do a BDR and the DRZ is at the top of my list.
@@duncdunc76 hi Sean, I've got it down to about 10min. I leave the cover off and carry a short 1/2" drive breaker bar with my combo axle nut wrench/tire spoon for leverage. In gear I hold my right foot on rear brake, right hand on front brake, chest on seat and pull up to loosen the sprocket nut. The snail cam adjusters on the rear axle make it very easy to adjust the chain. I run a 42t rear, so with the same 110 link chain I can run from a 13t to a 16t using the same chain.
@@randykingston5763 Nice! Thanks for the info Randy! Seems like it's a great way to increase the versatility of performance on the already very versatile DRZ.
I would absolutely buy an updated DRZ if they updated the bike, and lowered the seat height to 35”. As a shorter rider, especially on the street, this is imperative. Six speed, fuel injection, and a new look?? I’d be all over it!!
The headlight and it's original lines are it's best selling points in my opinion. Classic.
I'd love to see him do an honest re-review of this bike with stuff like; the 3x3 mod, Lectron carby, aftermarket exhaust and maybe header pipe, ACT wide ratio gears paired with a single tooth drop on the front sprocket. I think those mods alone will make him change his mind at least a bit. Lower first gear with still a higher 5th gear even with the front sprocket change, thanks to that ACT wide ratio conversion. 3x3 mod with the exhaust and Lectron carb will really help open up the power, and he already was singing the praises of the suspension so if he took it to a suspension place to have them dial it in really well for him, I think he might change his mind on a lot of his opinions here.
Granted, those opinion changes will only matter to the bike in its then modded form, which is costly to say the least, but I still think it would be a valuable video.
Well, I think the DRZ's main competitor is the DR650SE. I owned a 03 DRZ400S, kept it less than a year before moving to a 05 DR650SE. I kept that bike many years, wished I hadn't sold it.
The DR is just so much better on road. Mine cruised smoothly at whatever speed I wanted to go up to 85. The DR has no more power than the DRZ, both bikes could use a few more ponies. Yes, the DR has sucky suspension but that can be much improved with simple cheap mods. It's maybe 20-30 pounds heavier than the DRZ but it feels lighter in motion. The DR seat is at least 2" lower, it lugs way lower, making it the better bike in tough going. I dumped both bikes many times (the DR 100's of times!), the DR is definitely easier to pick up. On open flowing dirt the DRZ is superior - I don't think the DR could match it no matter the suspension mods.
Regarding the DRZ engine. Yes, a six speed trans would help. However, the fundamental problem is the engine was not designed for this role. The DRZ400 started life as an offroad only playbike, a bike no one was droning along on a highway at 6000-7000 rpm. It just isn't balanced all that well. In the depths of time Suzuki should have refined the balance (and added a 6th gear).
Ian, I think an interesting review would be the stock DR650SE VS a reasonably modded DR. I know that modded is a can of worms - the permutations are endless. But I do think you would find in your circle of buddies a DR with the classic must-do mods to the suspension. I did nothing to the engine of mine, but I did go to a pumper carb, waste of money for me (and -5mpg) though some people swear by them. A completely stock DR is only going to differ in that the fork and shock springs are incredibly soft, really compromising offroad capability.
Very interesting outcome. I really hope Suzuki will invest to upgrade the bike. The adventure segment had moved on to bigger bikes and is finally embracing the lighter and middle weight class. This is the perfect opportunity for Suzuki to homologate a new DRZ
I suspect that very few riders would find the carburetor on a DR-Z to be a real complaint, in practice. Sure, you'd be silly to prefer a carb in this day and age, and it would sorely limit your choice of bikes. But I think you'd also be silly to pass over the DR-Z *solely* because it has a carb, if it otherwise fits your style. If you haven't owned a (modern) carbureted bike, I promise it's really not a big deal. Ask any other old guy who's owned a few.
The altitude thing is overblown. First off: how many people, honestly, are going up and down thousands and thousands of feet with any regularity-if ever? Even on some epic cross-continent adventure, you'd only encounter one or two mountain ranges. Besides, I have run carbureted bikes past 7,000ft (2,100m) with no adjustments. I didn't notice them struggling any more than my EFI bikes at the same altitude (which is to say, not much in either case). I think some people have the idea that a carbureted bike that runs well at sea level will drown and sputter out at 5,000 feet. Or they imagine trips consumed by constant roadside re-jetting. Hardly-at least not on a *modern* carbureted bike in a decent state of repair.
As far as cold starting, it's a wash in my experience. I have had a couple of EFI bikes that hated to start even at 50ºF / 10ºC (what passes for cold in my climate). Then I've had both carbureted and EFI bikes that started just fine in colder temps than that. The only real correlation I've found is that the higher-compression, higher-performance engines tend to be more finicky. Yes, carbureted engines (when cold) definitely like to warm up for a minute or two...not a big deal, you just start it before you put your helmet and gloves on.
Probably the best, most thorough review of this bike I’ve ever seen. Bravo! I hope you could do the same in depth review of the DR650 at some point. I think it would be very helpful. Keep up the outstanding work!
yes please! a DR650 review! it has a cult following BIG TIME!
I owned a 2001 in 2006 for a couple years. It was great off road, but sucked on the road. I went from it to a KLR650, then a KLX250S, Himalayan, and now a KLX300SM.
Great review, and very accurate! I just bought one of these about a month ago, it's definitely different having a bike with a carb, but I gotta say, when I take this thing off road, it just GOES! I replaced the stock tires with Dunlop D606s and it just rips through everything now. Definitely love this bike.
I had looked at the drz400 and the wr250r... ended up with the wr and still very happy with the bike
WR is a better bike
I really liked my candy grand blue 07 which was my 1st Dual Sport. Some time after doing all the popular modifications to suit my real preference of 90% dirt, 10% street, I eventually realized I needed 2 bikes. First a light weight 100% off road 2 stroke for more extreme capability on tight single track or steep hill climbs in the mountains or dunes. Second, a 6 speed 100mph capable long maintenance interval capable dual sport. The KTM 690R modified towards an adventure bike is my dual sport choice because highway travel is boring to me unless it's a scenic mountain road to connect me to the next trail.
hair loss product really fits the potential DRZ buyers. Well done Ian well done.
Reviewers always talk about the weight. But it's actually light when compared to the 300's. Same weight, more power. The KTM 390 ADV is about 50 pounds heavier. CB500x or KLR650 are well over 100 pounds heavier. So comparatively, on paper, it's light. I guess the question is, why are the 300's so heavy and have a lot of plastics on them even.
Agreed. A tail tidy, lithium battery, and LED lighting will make the DRZ almost exactly the same weight as the KLX 300, but with 50% more hp and torque. I don't care how 'finicky' a carb gets at different altitudes, it ain't going to lose 50% horsepower lol
If you'll be doing technical trails, you'll be learning early on that using the clutch is key for most situations. Because of the grunt of the DRZ400, the high first gear and feathering the clutch has not been an issue for me! Coming from a 2001 KX250 2 stroke, this thing is FAR FAR easier to ride on technical trails.
My 2010 DRZ400E ( common in OZ) which is now my ADV mount again , since I sold my Tiger800. Like many riders here my DRZ has a Safari tank fitted ( 17L or 28 L) . I fitted an ACT wide ratio gear set so it will just laze along at 60 mph (our State's speed limit) and will sit at 70 mph all day easily. I fitted stiffer springs and valving and being your height, I dropped the seat height 40mm by internal shock changes, and put 320mm front disc on it for when I have luggage. As a mini-ADV bike my only complaint is that wind knocks it around. The E model dominates the Oz market as it is street legal and has more power/ less weight than the S model.
Thanks, have only owned a DRZ for a week and this is video extremely helpful.
I am on my third DRZ400 right now. I keep trying different bikes but keeping going back to the old girl. Tried an true beats new and improved it seems.
Great honest review. You are correct that this is bike that you buy used because there are so many out there.
The DRZ-400 is my absolute favorite dual sport for riding in the woods. Ergonomically, it feels very similar to my KTM 450 EX-C so it's comfortable for me. It's 50 lbs. heavier but, you don't feel that weight until you get into the really gnarly stuff. TONS of fun in the woods but, the low gearing makes it too vibey for long hours of highway use.... I'd really like to see Suzuki build a DR-Z500 keeping the weight the same or very close but, having the ability to cruise 70 on the highway without buzzing my hands to sleep, yet still having the low end to conquer off road challenges.
Never clicked on a video this fast! Thanks Ian ♥️
Now let's watch 😂
Love my DRZ. Lots of the things people say are bad points about them actually work in my favor. I'm 6'4", on smaller frame bikes my legs feel too folded up to be comfortable. Carbs, anything goes wrong out in the trails all it takes is a very simple tool kit to sort out issues. Only 5 gears, changed out the rear sprocket for 3 fewer teeth and is in the sweet spot for freeway and trails (with clutching.) Will be upgrading my 02' to a 22' very soon.
Had one, loved it! Regret selling it. The motor is amazing and the suspension is excellent.
Is it comfortable?
@@Spartansrule118 invest in a Seat Concepts or Sargent saddle, and it will be comfy.
350-400cc is the sweet spot, always was, and watching the small bikes slowly inch up in displacement confirms this.
Your video is hammer on nail but missed a few points in my opinion.
1) you’re absolutely correct on the line up of customers if they added FI and a sixth cog. Sad part is Suzuki has waited too long to do it as pretty much all the engineers who made it are already retired…the new crew will either want to clean sheet it for regulations (euro5/ABS, etc..) or to meet some marketing groups vision; so that’s out the window…chances are cost and weight would skyrocket…
2) Buying used isn’t as easy as you’d think, in my province there are only 5 used DRZ’s for sale today, and all of them are SM’s…
3) I think you might have missed a third competing segment; big thumpers (DR/KLR/XR). A lot of people considering one of these bigger machines see the DRZ as a viable compromise due to the dirt bias design. I struggled with it and still don’t know if my decision was the right compromise (a highly modded DR).
4) Great bike and a great video; keep them coming
Thanks,
AMAZING bike. i got a 2020 DRZ400. my take on the bike is that, stock form, its OK. it needs to be modified to either dirt or street to show its full potential. its a beautiful bike to mess around on. its only 300 pounds or so too. as for my DRZ, i turned it completely to street. 38T rear, 15t front, IMS fuel tank, street tires. the bike is a fucking beauty now
24:05 As for the point of carburetion, I think it might be best to simply replace the stock carb with a Lectron or equivalent, and if you've saved money on an older bike, you'll still be ahead despite that expense. The Lectron type of carb by its nature automatically compensates for temp and elevation changes. You get this great benefit without being dependent on high tech electronics, various components and sensors, and of course more connectors which could be drowned out or fail.
Back in the 1970s Suzuki had the TC series of bikes. It had a mechanical switch on the cases with Hi/low ratios of gearing . Suzuki should do that for the DRZ 400 and DR 650. For that matter other manufacturers should do that . 😃
Honda had hi/lo range in the early 80's too. Trannys weren't robust enough, that's why they went away sadly. :(
Brilliant, not a stone unturned. An awesomely thorough review
Great video again. I'd be interested to know from a journalism perspective as to whether top brass at motorcycle companies ever get confronted by the question: "You know we all want a 40-50hp machine with good suspension/ground clearance, wide gearing and relaxed service intervals, why don't you make one?". Is it because the kind of journalists who might ask that question don't get invited to the big press meetings presumably because the real answer is "well if we made that then no one would buy our $25000 machines"? I mean I think AJP have done a really good job with the PR7 but it falls down with the service intervals (presumably cos they can't develop their own engines) - i.e., there are bikes out there that show it could be done, including the DRZ.
Great review Ian.
DRZ's are very popular in Australia and there are squillions of parts for them.
The reason it doesn't get updated is because it will have to meet euro4/5 standards being a register-able vehicle and will have to have ABS standard and other stuff.
The cost will skyrocket by a few grand......look how much the Honda CT125 postie bike costs after being efi'ed, Abs, etc.
Suzuki don't have to pass any epa laws with the current bike.
Thank god for this loophole. I actually don't want to see this bike updated or the DR650 for that matter. Love the old school carbureted engines with minimal electronics/assists. I know that regardless, eventually they'll be forced to comply or die but hope we've got some time left yet. Yes they've already screwed up the CT125. Almost jumped at the opportunity to own one until I read EFI, ABS.
I did enjoy my one, uprated springs to cope with my 'robust' build, larger fuel tank, Renthal fat bars, Bark Busters...I sold it and within a week the guy cracked the engine cases as he failed to change the chain sprockets as I had told him needed doing....
In Australia we still get the DRZ 400 E. , it can to Australia 🇦🇺 in 1999 , then it only had a kick starter and was not road legal , 2000 they made it street legal added the electric start and also the E model had the Pumper Carby ( same as WR 400 )
The E model is faster with the Keihin carbie. Most of us in Oz add a Safari tank ( 17 or 28 L) and a small wind screen, fit 15/44 sprockets and ride them all over the country. I have added stiffer springs and a re-valve. I am 5'11" too and found the seat height too tall, so I had the rear shock shortened and dropped the forks through the triple clamps.. I fitted an ACT gear set to make travel at 60-70 mph/ 100-110 kph easier, but in my opinion the motor would be better pull the taller "pseudo 6th" gear with a 440 kit fitted.
Spot on! Very good review. Have a 12, bought new. Love to ride it and most miles have been in the AZ and So. Cal deserts and San Berdoo Mountains. Agreed, an update would be a game changer!
I don't think Suzuki plans on updating to much anytime soon. I believe motocross action mag stated this in the latest RMZ 450 review. They said something along the lines how they are mostly selling small commuting scooters to foreign countries. Anyway, thanks for the content! I like binging on your reviews when I have time to kill. Seat height can be a good thing too. More ground clearance and suspension travel for more serious off roading. It allows a better extention of the knees for taller riders. While riding off road in more extreme cases, no one should be stopping to flat foot a technical section or off camber hill. Keep moving!
Yeah, they are almost broke and leaving MotoGP.
I've been through a lot of bikes the last couple years, for a variety of reasons, including the CRF450L, CRF300L Rally, and DRZ400S (my 2nd DRZ). I'm currently on a KTM 500 EXC-F and Tenere 700, but if I could only have one motorcycle, it would be the DRZ. I've done a number of videos on all these bikes as well and my thoughts echo yours almost exactly. We spoke on the phone about my CRF450L which you were interested in, and I would love to see you do a review of that bike.
I had this bike along with 40+ others and right now I’m enjoying my ‘22 CRF450RL. I feel if you update the DRZ to be in the current environment and you want long term durability you need to pay for it and for me the Honda is a great option. It doesn’t stall at slow speeds anymore and it does everything much better than the DRZ. It’s heavy compared to other bikes out right now but if you strip off what they already don’t offer it gets pretty close and if I can ride fast on single track with it so can anyone.
but it's ALSO $10k.....and the DRZ is only 7.
You get a heck of a lot for that price difference. The DRZ is a too top heavy off road and vibrates you to death as it screams down the road at 55mph. Just came off of a ride today with my son on my crf450rl and me on my africa twin and he was keeping up with me just fine. We rode in the mountains, a little highway and through town. Plus it’s a riot off road. We went to Moab a couple weeks ago and rode in the sand and rocks and it was awesome. Best all around bike I’ve ever had.