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  • @ZayuhFanClub
    @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +8

    Feel Free To join my Discord! discord.gg/5DYdPyAf

    • @You-wp4ic
      @You-wp4ic 9 місяців тому

      Did you use the wiki to list their abilities?

  • @masido443
    @masido443 Рік тому +634

    Let's be real here: the Divine tree with a prep time demolishes both of them.

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +101

      this statement screams at me

    • @momodominic7641
      @momodominic7641 Рік тому +131

      that thing was scary asf

    • @shrxmp5718
      @shrxmp5718 Рік тому +22

      bro spitting fact

    • @masido443
      @masido443 Рік тому +7

      @@ZayuhFanClub what do you think about making a video about it (the tree)?

    • @NoLimitsHtx
      @NoLimitsHtx Рік тому +4

      I haven’t watch the new season why and how the tree can do that?

  • @bennogb5069
    @bennogb5069 Рік тому +370

    Toichiro 100% broke Mobs arm in 100% courage and then went on to grow to the point Mob tought he would definietly die. Toichiro is underrrated for how strong he is compared to Mob

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +26

      i like this response WBurger

    • @Joshuaki221
      @Joshuaki221 Рік тому +16

      Mob held back so much during that fight
      We saw it during the last episode of mb psycho that mob's power gap is waaay to huge

    • @bleachkid44
      @bleachkid44 Рік тому +9

      To be fair tho it’s hard to tell exactly how much 100% he was using there. Evident by in their rematch toichiro didn’t even stand a chance

    • @zekie106
      @zekie106 Рік тому +10

      @@Joshuaki221 I agree the Mob held back a lot during that fight cus he didn't wanna fight Suzuki
      but suzuki was nerfed in their final fight (he was basically drained of his 20 yrs of collected powers during his first fight with mob)

    • @truedarkness4052
      @truedarkness4052 Рік тому +2

      @bleachkid44 That's not Mob per say, that's his ??? state, which is essentially a completely autonomous being from Mob himself

  • @naproupi
    @naproupi Рік тому +40

    It's impressive that people are still discussing "powerlevel" in a manga written by One aka the guy who made a whole manga about how powerlevel is bullshit

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +7

      hey i found a way and im enjoying it leave me alone

    • @naproupi
      @naproupi Рік тому +3

      ​@@ZayuhFanClub I mean, you do you.
      I think it's superficial and not very interesting.
      But you don't need my or anyones validation to do what you like.

    • @glogangglory
      @glogangglory 18 днів тому

      This sounds hard to believe considering how much he powerscales his own series 😭

  • @GhERM2SOIED72
    @GhERM2SOIED72 Рік тому +61

    When Mob goes for the kill against Touichirou, the anime SERIOUSLY amps up the effectiveness. In th comic, it only effects his arm, and then Touchirou goes on an extended offensive with his 100% form (not losing control nearly as quickly).

  • @crydunkey5982
    @crydunkey5982 Рік тому +41

    I disagree greatly with mob's strongest form being 100% rage. It was my understanding that Mob's 100% Courage was the strongest in a way to prove Mogami wrong (???% aside). I thought that was a big thematic part of their fight, that in the face of great adversity, courage shine the strongest. The fact that Mob went 100% courage after he went rage mode against Suzuki also supports this, as it only makes sense that he would use progressively stronger forms/ emotions if the previously ones don't cut it. Otherwise I think you,were pretty spot on.

  • @cds7012
    @cds7012 Рік тому +181

    Totally agreed. Honestly, hearing the points you laid out, spiritual energy seems to be stronger than psychic energy. Because that's pretty much the difference between these two espers: one has absorbed and stored psychic energy, the other spirits. But since spirits are beings on themselves, they are more wild and took a toll on Mogami's body and mind as he kept them all stored.
    Witht that in mind, God Dimple is stronger than Suzuki in my mind, but probably still below Mogami, as stated in your top ten ranking.

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +12

      I LIKE HOW YOU THINK sometimes i feel like people comment without actually watching the video....(but i can be bad at explaining things so it can be my fault) but yeah i agree with you

    • @10RexTheWolf01
      @10RexTheWolf01 Рік тому +6

      So basically Suzuki is the stronger natural psychic while Mogami is stronger because of how much spirits he ate.

  • @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495
    @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 Рік тому +14

    “Mob beats monster Suzuki rather easily-“
    Uhh, no? Mob was COMPLETELY OVERPOWERED, in the manga AND anime. In the anime, Mob was literally punched and knocked on the ground and was not moving for several seconds, in that time Suzuki’s OWN POWER went out of control, too much for his own body.
    Suzuki was straight up STRONGER than Mob at 100% Courage, only winning because Suzuki’s stored up power was too much for his own body. Mob even thought he was going to die, something he NEVER Felt against Mogami.

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +6

      rewatch the ep. Mob just held him in place and he blew up, it even showed his hand sinuating that. Come on man i even put it in the vid smh

    • @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495
      @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 Рік тому +9

      @@ZayuhFanClub
      No, Mob didn’t “hold him in place”. Mob was literally on the ground, unmoving. Toichiro lost control of his own power and began writhing in pain, which Mob capitalised on once he got back up after Toichiro laid him out flat with his previous punch.
      The shot of his hand is Toichiro losing control of his power. You literally see Mob look confused at what’s going on.

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +2

      u gotta rewatch the episode if u think that

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +4

      youre actually right mb mb

    • @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495
      @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 Рік тому +10

      @@ZayuhFanClub
      I’ve watched the entire anime AND read the manga. The manga was way more clear, as the anime was going for spectacle and flashy lights. In the manga, Mob is completely overwhelmed in a blitz of blows, and Toichiro loses control.
      “Theres too much power… he can no longer control it. He’s in pain. This is my ONLY chance.”
      Mob straight up says Toichiro losing control was his ONLY CHANCE at winning that fight.

  • @newto2794
    @newto2794 Рік тому +81

    People arguing over where to place these two, God Dimple and the Divine tree in a tierlist of sorts makes me wish we had more information on 1000% Reigen's capabilities, since compared to when Dimple absorbed Mob's power, Mob was fully dry after willingly giving them to Reigen, while in the previous case he still had enough powers to slap an extremely powerful version of Dimple

    • @RPGNoZero
      @RPGNoZero Рік тому +15

      Considering that Mob’s power is very tied to his emotion thematically, it’s pretty likely that his max stamina is depended on his mood. On claw arc he was likely relieved since his master Reigen was there to handle the situation. On God tree arc he was the only one left and had anger to Dimple, triggering even more power. Then he passed out quickly after Dimple gave up.

    • @dexkani9993
      @dexkani9993 Рік тому +2

      He wasn't fully dry

    • @gatekeeper6720
      @gatekeeper6720 Місяць тому +2

      I 100% believe that if ONE was writing 1000% reigen against either of them Reigen would still beat them effortlessly because it’s in line with the narrative of the manga and it’s also funny as hell

  • @gabbie25
    @gabbie25 Рік тому +13

    both can absorb energy. both almost appeared to be stronger than mob. both are the best of their leagues. the only difference is that one is driven by spite and the other by arrogance. should be a good fight.

  • @s.r.g4724
    @s.r.g4724 Рік тому +9

    mob once regenerated his arm in the dream world

  • @maximiliano-nf3ib
    @maximiliano-nf3ib Місяць тому +2

    Mob's weakness were his emotions that's why mogami was putting up a good fight. Although he might still be more powerful than boss

  • @ZaneTheSnowman
    @ZaneTheSnowman 11 днів тому +1

    Literal nuclear bomb vs psychological warfare

  • @thedreamz9376
    @thedreamz9376 Рік тому +97

    There are 2 things you missed that were stated in the webcomic that can change the whole argument... the ability that mob and toichiro possess allows them to absorb energy from one another... in the webcomic it was literally stated that mob was getting stronger in his fight against toichiro because he was absorbing his energy, you can see that in the most recent episode (s3 ep11) where toichiro tries to do the same thing but he can't cause the gap is 2 big (in the webcomic they just flat out state that mob had toichiros power from s2 in him and that toichiro tried to get it back)... the second thing is, toichiro never lost, but rather self imploded...

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +23

      thats fair but lets not miss out on the fact that mogami can steal your life force and lets not cherry pick self explosion is losing even if he didnt lose mogami has better feats

    • @thedreamz9376
      @thedreamz9376 Рік тому +25

      @@ZayuhFanClub the life force argument is good, but that really only worked cause mob was holding back until the very end (at that point it was actually a fight and mogami couldn't use his haxs to just kill mob, toichiro probably wouldn't hold back since he probably would assess the situation) self explosion is not a loss, its self explosion, and technically most of that energy went into the broccoli (later into dimple with some of his own handywork) and mob willingly because toichiro had a change of heart, the fact that toichiro didn't 100% lose himself even though he has mobs abilities probably means that he has a ??? form as well... also all of mogamis feats are overshadowed by the fact that it all happened with in a realm separate from their actual reality, who knows what toichiro could do in there... mogamis greatest in world feat was sleeping a bunch of goons... if you include spirit realm, sure mogami has better feats but some ppl dont... I dont think it holds up although I could see it going either way...

    • @shrimpman.
      @shrimpman. Рік тому +2

      @@thedreamz9376self-explosion being a loss depends on the situation, for Toichiro it definitely was because it was blatant that he couldn’t control that much power and it was gonna kill him if Mob didn’t absorb all that energy

    • @tarajipowell9227
      @tarajipowell9227 Рік тому +2

      @@thedreamz9376 it seems someone hasn’t been watching season 3 of mob psycho(talking about your little comment on toichrio having a ??? Form)

    • @justssj4chillin8
      @justssj4chillin8 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@tarajipowell9227He would have that ??? Form though the main reason why he exploded was because through common sense. He was holding a lot more stress and emotion than Mob. And he couldn't control his power simply because he is Older than mob and we all know that Mob and Suzuki's psychic powers deal with emotion. Like take it this way, A grown man would have *WAY more emotion than a kid* whether it be Stress, anger, sadness and etc.
      Mob has *NEVER* come to the same emotions that Suzuki's has been through. And Suzuki literally Overpowered him. Giving him the ??? Form would be pointless considering he would just straight up body Mob any day of the Week.
      Suzuki's Powers far exceeds Mob's psychic powers. Mob has more potential to grow stronger than Suzuki because he is still Young, while Suzuki is a Grown man who's already experienced the things that Mob is just experiencing.
      Suzuki is basically Mob, but with no friends or family. Or a place to call home. He never had the same experience as Mob with friendship and stuff like that.
      In conclusion Mob would've turned out just like Suzuki if it wasn't for the people that he met, and his brother. So Suzuki is indeed stronger. Mob just has the potential to be stronger than Suzuki ( without the Season 3 nerf )

  • @theperfectbeing3976
    @theperfectbeing3976 Рік тому +25

    I was waiting for somebody to make a video about this. I always thought that Mogami would likely win in a fight against Suzuki but I wasnt ever sure. Didnt realize your channel was as small as it was until you said it so but as the first person to make a video on this topic I'm going to subscribe. Keep up the good work!

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +3

      youre so sweet thanks for the sub but yeah mogami wins but people sometimes dont like to count his spirits as his powers and thats where they lose bc they use that to say suzuki wins lol

  • @Mirror_Lotus
    @Mirror_Lotus Рік тому +51

    There is one thing you didn't consider which I think matters a fair bit.
    When Mob was forced to go into ??? Mode by Mogami, he had basically already been defeated, and was therefore fighting at a disadvantage.
    The moment Mob left his own body and tried to possess the girl, he lost his biggest advantage against Mogami. He is a living person with a body, while Mogami is just a spirit. Mogami may be the strongest spirit in the world, but he wouldn't have been able to force Mob into ??? Mode in the real world. He had to trick Mob into abandoning his body, and then forced Mob's spirit into a fake world of his own creation, where he was in control of everyone and everything. Only then was he able to push him to ??? Mode.

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +13

      i look at it like this were not sure how strong mogami is outside the spirit world we dont know what he can do so if its outside the spirit world suzuki wins based of no feats but if theyre at their strongest forms which would mean spirit world mogami than mogami wins mb i didnt make that clear enough

    • @Mirror_Lotus
      @Mirror_Lotus Рік тому +5

      @@ZayuhFanClub Yeah I definitely agree. To be clear, a lot of your points are very solid. I mostly agree w/ your conclusion. This was just one thing that I think would tip the scales more in Suzuki's favor.
      Mogami is still extremely emotionally intelligent, sadistic, and manipulative. As overwhelming as it may be, his greatest strength is arguably not his psychic power. Instead, it may be his willingness to take advantage of people's mental weakness and defeat them through underhanded/indirect means.

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +3

      @@Mirror_Lotus yeah no problem i am a little bias toward mogami so i overlooked some things about suzuki but thanks for bringing it up means alot!

    • @samuelcalderon5525
      @samuelcalderon5525 Рік тому +10

      This is a common misconception but it wasn't Mogami that forced Mob into ???%. Mogami had already been defeated. But the spirits he had were let loose. And these were the ones that overwhelmed Mob. Not Mogami himself

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +2

      the spirits are apart of mogami lol

  • @holynight524
    @holynight524 9 місяців тому +1

    They both attack from different angles.
    one destroys from the inside, tries to attack what the other person is.
    and the other from the outside, tries to attack physically the other person to prove he's stronger.

  • @mjxaep
    @mjxaep Рік тому +43

    This is peak content here, actually such an enjoyable video man I love this 😭

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +4

      woow thank you that one hits my heart im greatful that u made it here youre such an enjoyable person! I love you!

  • @zqninja3334
    @zqninja3334 Рік тому +5

    Now we know in, Season 3 episode 12, that Mob was holding back the entire time until he actually shows emotion. Like in the fight with Suzuki, he showed that he was getting excited, and was able to fight on a equal field with Suzuki until he realized what he had almost done when he sees Ritsu. The only time he had gone full power in the entire series, and was aware of it was in the fight scene when he used “Animosity”

  • @gamensch2629
    @gamensch2629 Рік тому +17

    Mob definitely does not win against Monster Suzuki "easily", it was pretty much implied that Mob 100% courage was weaker than Suzuki because he was hurt through their fists hitting each other
    Suzuki just wasn't stable enough to hold control over his whole output! Which maybe even was initiated by mob but it's not like Mob overpowered him (Mob only took advantage of the moment in which Suzuki was unstable) and as he has the ability to clone himself therefore maybe some type of body manipulation so I wouldn't be surprised if in this monstrious form he still was himself

  • @bmad1386
    @bmad1386 Рік тому +5

    IIRC, Mogami's giant spirits were one hit K.O-ing Mob damn near every hit they landed on him, although Mob beat him, he still put Mob in absolute hell

  • @mwsage8645
    @mwsage8645 Рік тому +4

    Mob WAS going all out against Suzuki, he was getting stronger throughout the fight

  • @CrypticSunrise
    @CrypticSunrise Рік тому +4

    amazing content id love some more

  • @whyIeo
    @whyIeo Рік тому +1

    just want to say i like ur vids :)

  • @JD_ash
    @JD_ash Рік тому +10

    Love the grind dude, keep up the hard work✊👍

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +2

      Appreciate you and the comment I love you homie ❤

  • @jebbryant6522
    @jebbryant6522 Рік тому +8

    Mob wasn't holding back against suzuki he was literally at 100% and getting pushed back throughout the fight. He just reaches higher levels of power depending on what emotion is at 100% hence him getting his shit rocked then winning when going into 100% rage or similar forms

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      If u re watch the fight mob said he gives up on trying to save him which indicates he was holding back I even put the scene in the video lol

    • @jebbryant6522
      @jebbryant6522 Рік тому +2

      @@ZayuhFanClub that really means nothing you can use full strength without trying to straight up kill someone and again prior to that different 100% forms were getting their shit rocked. It's very clearly shown throughout the fight his different emotions are of various levels of power and that his murderous 100% is way stronger then his other 100% forms. Keep in mind at the very start of the fight teru directly confirms that even while losing his 100% is more powerful then his prior ???%

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      @@jebbryant6522 an easy way to disprove this is was he going for the kill against mogami the whole time? yes. did he go into his strongest form off the bat? yes. is mob more comfortable fighting spirits then humans? yes. we know mob wasnt going for the take down aka beating him up off the bat which is holding back "murderous 100% is way stronger then his other 100% forms" that is just un true courage is his strongest 100% form he beat mogami's vessel and suzuki with it

    • @jebbryant6522
      @jebbryant6522 Рік тому +1

      @@ZayuhFanClub that's all not even true. Mob wasn't going for the kill the whole time and he wasn't going all out right from the bat saying otherwise is just blatantly lying about what happens in the show. Regardless though none of that proves that you can't go all out without trying to straight murk someone. As for the last bit you clearly don't understand what I meant by his murderous 100% being stronger it's very clearly shown to be stronger then any form he uses prior to it in the fight hence "murderous 100% is stronger then his other forms" also even if I just agree to all of that it's indisputable that mob starts the fight off with more power then his ???% had prior to it

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      @@jebbryant6522 💀 what dude watch the fight again mob was going for the kill against mogami the whole time murderous 100% isnt a thing courage is stronger judging from the first few sentences u havent watched the show in a long time season 2 episode 5 re watch it

  • @lolbro8701
    @lolbro8701 Рік тому +6

    I interpreted the mogami fight as, mob gets let in then mogami lets mob destroy him to see how mob gauges himself in terms of power, then basically erases that level of power from mob because he controls the world there on a normal esper who values their power very highly this woulda been a death sentence but mob didn't think especially high of himself so there were parts of his own power he didn't really even gauge such as the ??? cameo after his body was destroyed fighting all the spirits

  • @jo.-el
    @jo.-el Рік тому +3

    u deserve a lot more views

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      AHH that means the world to me thank you ill get up there one day

  • @Eløsake
    @Eløsake Рік тому +1

    5:53 "like im not saying this cause I'm a meat sucker, but you know I kinda am. Ok I take that back"

  • @DimiArt
    @DimiArt Рік тому +2

    The moment we see mob able to restrain mogami while he has that girl's body posessed, is the moment we realize mogami isn't very strong in the human world.

  • @mikerotch2066
    @mikerotch2066 Рік тому +5

    Only negative feat against mogami is how strong he can be outside in the real world. Even if he might have been faking it he still got sealed and he got out because he was released not on his own. However, the power he showed right after being released could prove otherwise.
    On the other hand not only did suzuki save up energy for a very long time but he simply couldn't control it in the end. Which is his loss.
    But the way I see it mogami being able to still maintain his strength outside would be more likely to happen compared to suzuki controlling his abilities at its highest. However both of them being able to take energy could also heavily tip the scales. But even then if suzuki can't control that power then I see no point. (The same way he tried to take mobs energy)
    So im leaning more towards mogami, unless we see him fight mob one more time at his strongest.

  • @Mirror_Lotus
    @Mirror_Lotus Рік тому +4

    I'm glad the algorithm threw your vids my way man! Watched and liked one of your vids a few days ago. This one just earned you a subscription!

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +2

      im very thankful im glad you made it back enjoy the stay

  • @ODoyleRulez_
    @ODoyleRulez_ Рік тому +17

    I remember Toichiro telling Mob is that your 100%? While he was only using 10% at the time I kind of think he was stronger than God Dimple at that point because he been storing energy for years.

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +8

      god dimple is suzukis power and more lol

    • @ODoyleRulez_
      @ODoyleRulez_ Рік тому +2

      @@ZayuhFanClub God dimple stood no chance against Mob from the start.

    • @elponseco4567
      @elponseco4567 Рік тому

      Did you not know that mob completely outclassed him the whole time. He was legit holding back

    • @justssj4chillin8
      @justssj4chillin8 11 місяців тому

      ​@@elponseco4567for the first like 25% of the fight. Then Mob proceeds to get body by Suzuki

    • @calliastah4115
      @calliastah4115 5 днів тому

      @@ODoyleRulez_ Lol God Dimple would've given Mob a lot of trouble, Dimple simply really didn't want to hurt Mob, only turn him to his side. Also God Dimple stated he was a 'transcending opponent the likes which Mob hasn't seen before', even when he knew what Mob went through against Mogami & Suzuki, and Mob acknowledged Dimple was holding back a lot. Even when Dimple fired the God Beam with a little more energy than intended Mob mentioned "I actually could've died with that anyone. Any more and Ill lose faith in you".

  • @LORDSofCHAOS333
    @LORDSofCHAOS333 Рік тому +1

    i mean yeah we can use mob as the referee on how much of lv there are

  • @rickabrick7564
    @rickabrick7564 Рік тому +8

    Nice video, though calling it 'The Objective Truth' is quite the bold title choice, haha. I respect your confidence! While I don't necessarily agree with everything you've mentioned, it was a fun watch! But there are a couple of things I'd like to bring up...
    When Mogami claims that negative feelings are inherently stronger, I never took that as fact personally. It's more like the beliefs of a lonely person who hasn't experienced much positivity in his life, and Mob does go on to defeat him with what is, if I recall correctly, his first explosion of positive emotion - courge. While on the topic, the scaling of the different 100% emotions is also contentious. I can't for the life of me remember where I've read this, but I could swear that ONE mentioned somewhere that the percentage is meant to refer not to the buildup of a specific emotion but rather Mob's overall power output. The emotions seem to impact the way Mob utilises his powers rather than how strong they are. Also I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet, but I think you keep referring to the 100% state where Mob truly tries to kill Suzuki as rage, when it's resignation. Suzuki comments on it being cold-blooded, so I suppose you could still call it Mob's 'strongest' 100% state purely because he's going for the kill without holding back at all.
    And the reason people generally don't count the spirits as part of Mogami's power after Mob pops his vessel is because he states he loses control of them. If you run someone over because the steering wheel of your car suddenly snapped off, it's not entirely on you anymore. The issue then is that it's not really Mogami tearing Mob apart till ???% pops out, so can we really count it as a feat on his part? Though it is funny how the same people will often go on to say that Suzuki beats 100% Mob when, really, he ends up in a similar situation of losing control to a point where it becomes detrimental to Suzuki himself. That being said, I think it is more fun and fair to give Mogami his spirits anyway; even if there's no guarantee they wouldn't turn on Mogami too eventually, if they score the kill for him, Mogami still technically wins lol.
    ...ah, that turned into a whole rant, sorry! And I'm awful with tone, so I want to clarify that I'm not trying to start any mean-spirited arguments, it's just fun to discuss this stuff and learn how other people interpret what goes on in this series :)

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      thanks for the clarification! i wasnt really sure what the 100% for positive output thingy was, but i see now that it was courage. and yeah his strongest 100% being resignation not rage makes alot of sense, they look simular but i couldnt find out for the life of me what it was called, so i went with rage thats for the clear up

  • @Elishfzk
    @Elishfzk Рік тому +5

    I love your content keep up the grind

  • @fulltimeslackerii8229
    @fulltimeslackerii8229 Рік тому

    one survived the ??? and the other lost handily. case essentially closed.

  • @quincyhampton3243
    @quincyhampton3243 Рік тому +1

    Finally a video ab scaling mob psycho km def watching yo shit you got more

  • @pjen7198
    @pjen7198 Місяць тому

    Golden dimple slams

  • @NikukaiFightOn
    @NikukaiFightOn Рік тому +1

    I see the arguments spurned a new video xd. Sorry about getting carried away. I never meant to come off as much of a dick as I did lol. BUT a little out of context, Mob was in 100% from the time Suzuki blasted Reigen which is when Mob first started fighting. I didn't mean when Suzuki was just punching poor Mobby boy

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +1

      hey no problem i didnt think it got toxic i just thought it would be a good video idea thanks for the video idea nerd hahahah!!!

  •  2 місяці тому

    One thing people dont notice that at the end of s2 toichiro actually beats mob in the sense that he looses counciousness because you can see his hand laying dead and then coming back while suzuki is starting to explode. I think theyre probably close in power. 5:41 , you can also see mob waking up and pushing off the ground, meaning his hand was laying. In this situation i think it would be up to the plot and the writer to decide who would win and make it a satisfying victory to the reader. Also inside of the spirit world mob destroyed mogami, so suzuki could still win win even if he has to deal with the wandering demons, also mob had to save the girl he so he cmhad to go into ???% to pull everything off.

    •  2 місяці тому

      Also another point is that mob was at 100% even while suzuki was at 50% and suzuki was still winning.

  • @SoraJack
    @SoraJack Рік тому +3

    Isn't suzuki literally a car brand?

  • @justaguywithagoodphoto4801
    @justaguywithagoodphoto4801 Рік тому +1

    I think. Sozaki in the physical world wins
    But mogami in the spirit world wins it just depends on the the situation for both of them

  • @571danu
    @571danu Рік тому +2

    An all way fight of Suzuki vs Mogami vs Psycho Helmet vs God Dimple(full power) would be amazing

    • @poomipatlurkudom3883
      @poomipatlurkudom3883 Рік тому +1

      And reigen 1000%

    • @slewch3106
      @slewch3106 Рік тому

      reigen sweeps

    • @calliastah4115
      @calliastah4115 5 днів тому

      God Dimple takes it. Unless the fight's happening within the Broccoli. God Dimple did beat Psycho Helmet at the expense of dying, so he's basically equal to PH, the tree would definitely be taking energy from Suzuki and Mogami if the fight's happening inside. But if the 3 take it outside like God Dimple did, I'd give it to God Dimple.

  • @kellywhite692
    @kellywhite692 Рік тому +2

    112 views? I actually thought it had 20000 until you mentioned it

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +1

      wow im flattered thanks so much hey maybe we can get it to 20000 lol:)

    • @kellywhite692
      @kellywhite692 Рік тому

      ​@@ZayuhFanClub You did it, congratulations ^-^ 🎉🎉🎉

  • @michaelmullaney6388
    @michaelmullaney6388 Рік тому +3

    If Suzuki's vessel could handle more he would've had more power that 100% mob (not ??? Tho)

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      if is the problem

    • @kairu4107
      @kairu4107 Рік тому +2

      If shigeo doesn't hold back every fight he will rekt EVERYONE without hesitation even in 100% or ??? Or etc

  • @ivanhapuku-tenahu1638
    @ivanhapuku-tenahu1638 3 місяці тому

    Mogami probably has every esper power there is he wouldnt have all those dream powers telekinesis soul obsorption and posetion and oh yeah he has plants too like nah mogami has all of them

  • @allthingssummary9958
    @allthingssummary9958 Рік тому

    great video overall, but i have to disagree with your final stance. if i had to boil down your argument, you are basically saying that mogami beats suzuki because he faced a stronger version of mob (???%) while suzuki fought against 100% rage mob. I think that Suzuki actually had the tougher opponent with 100% rage mob because , ???% mob is just mob going all out in without any control while 100% rage mob is him going all out with full control. Also, its been stated that negative emotions with esper powers makes them more powerful. In summary 100% rage mob pwl = ???% mob pwl, and since fighting with control beats fighting without control , 100% rage mob is stronger

  • @awsomespecs
    @awsomespecs Рік тому

    people be sleeping on Suzaki, he was low key throwing hands with mob max, he still loses though.

  • @CaymenEditz
    @CaymenEditz Рік тому +9

    but hanazawa said during the suzuki fight that mob’s output was more than the output when he made mob go ???%. I still agree with you tho and it was a good take

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +2

      Mob never went ??? Against teru he went 100% sadness I think that's what he's referring too but I could be wrong:)

    • @CaymenEditz
      @CaymenEditz Рік тому +9

      @@ZayuhFanClub ik what you mean, but he did go ???% first when he was choked out, but then went 100% sadness when he saw the destruction he caused

    • @pinkyogurt6359
      @pinkyogurt6359 Рік тому +10

      ??? Cannot be measured because it only uses Enough power to squash his opponents and nothing more. It's power is so random and inconsistent and it just spikes at random moments. Against teru all it did was levitate the school but Against mogami it completely ERASED his entire mental plane from existence.
      Also in the most recent fight at first??? Seems actually weaker than 100% mob because all it did was throw trees at teru when all of a sudden he chucks teru across the city like a baseball. We don't know how strong ??? Really is Only that it's stronger than anyone in mob psycho.

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +5

      I think the fact that it's stronger than anyone alone says alot about its power either way ??? Is the strongest in the verse so it holds a ton of value

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +3

      Ima take your word for it bc I have God awful memory and i haven't slept yet lol

  • @kenethernandez6246
    @kenethernandez6246 Рік тому +1

    You had some interesting points but I don't think you thought this through completely. Let's say both guys are in character when they fight. If that's the case then this fight would take place in the outside world not in the spirit world. Remember, the only reason mob fought Mogami in the spirit world was to stop him from hurting the girl's body since the whole point was to rescue her. There Mogami had the clear advantage. Now Suzuki in character is nowhere near as nice as mob and I can easily see a world in which he just kills or severely hurts the person that mogami is possessing and forces him to come out. At that point the spirit world is not a factor and the fight in the normal world gives Suzuki the clear advantage. Mogami really didn't do anything special outside of his realm so going by feats and not speculation then Suzuki takes the win the vast majority of the time. Debate settled.

  • @CARMENRodriguez-ch7sd
    @CARMENRodriguez-ch7sd Рік тому

    Suzuki vs God Dimple

  • @tobisenpai5953
    @tobisenpai5953 Рік тому +1

    Personally i think mogami wins just because he forced mob to go ??? And toichiro needed to save up energy for 20 years just to fight 100% mob so personally i think mogami wins 19/20 times

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      yes yes yes yes yes this guy right here we got a winner

  • @burntchickennugget1164
    @burntchickennugget1164 Рік тому

    Mob didnt techincally beat suzuki. Suzuki couldnt control the 20 years worth of energy all at once which lead to his downfall. Mob was even on the verge of thinking he was going to die. mob saw the chance to nerf him after suzuki started to implode on his own spritual energy

  • @NoNanoGM
    @NoNanoGM Рік тому +3

    Mob did not beat suzuki monster form he lostvthat fight, but suzuki lost control before he could kill mob

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +3

      When Suzuki said mob lost he was saying it in a "u couldn't save me" way. Bc that was mobs objective, but he snapped and wrecked him so mob lost his way. he had no problem hurting mogami bc he was an evil spirit

    • @NoNanoGM
      @NoNanoGM Рік тому +2

      @@ZayuhFanClub from the wiki: "Suzuki is the only singular opponent that managed to overpower Mob at 100% and was only prevented from finishing him due to the excessive psychic energy released at once, causing his body to self-destruct" in the webcomic (it's been years since I read it) , if I remember correctly it is attested that mob is at 100% courage and even then he loses, in the anime this can be seen when they colide punches and mob reacts with pain in his arm

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +3

      ​@@NoNanoGM From the anime (which is a more reliable source) mogami also overwelled mob at 100% with the sprits. Tho he was not in control they are still his power. Mob in that battle was 100% positive emotions which includes courage, so using that i can assume that 100% form mob was using is stronger than courage. Mob was indeed holing back for a majority of the fight with suzuki. (Mob is uncomfortable with hurting humans he much rather change the way they think) once mob did try it took like 4 mins to beat him. Yes he had pain in his arm but u failed to mention what happened after that suzuki got brought down and self exploded which in most cases means he won remember in the spirit world not only was mogami enhanced so was mob (mob was regenerating limbs).mob was stronger in the spirit world then he was vs suzuki.

    • @NoNanoGM
      @NoNanoGM Рік тому +4

      @@ZayuhFanClub mob don't go ???% By pure emotion he goes ???% When he gets Unconscious, And that can't be considered a feat of power since a truck and Teru also did it.

    • @NoNanoGM
      @NoNanoGM Рік тому +1

      @@ZayuhFanClub where is my other comment where i mention the chapter and the one i with the link? did you delete?

  • @uhhhwhat6581
    @uhhhwhat6581 Рік тому +1

    So how about this, both of them at full power jumping ??? Mob…

  • @angel3pointoo173
    @angel3pointoo173 Рік тому +1

    While I personally disagree with you, I can understand your reasoning.
    My main problem is when mob went to ??? against mogami, mob quite literally neg him, his mere presents obliterated mogami's spirits. Where as when suzaku went against ??? He was still getting destroyed, but he did put up a small fight.
    So basically mogami gets Negged by ???
    And Suzaku gets Low diff
    But aside from the from the question mark scaling, as someone pointed out during mob and suzaku's fight mob was taking some of suzaku's energy. Meaning mob who was already putting in work against mogami was stronger against suzaku.

  • @evronian1129
    @evronian1129 Рік тому +1

    Suzuki would stand no chance against Mogami

  • @frankman1998
    @frankman1998 Рік тому +2

    I think you proved your point. Good video!

  • @natefab4490
    @natefab4490 Рік тому +1

    How old r u…need this for a project

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +1

      What is this so called project?

    • @natefab4490
      @natefab4490 Рік тому +1

      @@ZayuhFanClub I’m making a project on small UA-camrs for my Ap psychology class

    • @natefab4490
      @natefab4490 Рік тому +1

      Not on u specifically but I just need the data

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +1

      @@natefab4490 i am 17 years old

    • @djroscurro9859
      @djroscurro9859 Рік тому

      @@ZayuhFanClub goddamn a year younger than me
      I feel old lmao

  • @Badname2011
    @Badname2011 Рік тому

    hanazawa pushed mob to ??? form

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      yes but he just knocked him out mogami overwhelmed mob teru>>>suzuki/mogami

    • @djroscurro9859
      @djroscurro9859 Рік тому

      Because mob was doing his best to hold back and got knocked out

  • @copaceticobserver
    @copaceticobserver Рік тому

    Read the web comic

  • @OdensJournal2d
    @OdensJournal2d Рік тому

    MOB did NOT easily beat Suzuki 100% monster form, mob actually was having a hard time until Suzuki lost control of the power he absorbed then mob stopped him. Of course if Suzuki maintained control mob would’ve been pushed to ???.

  • @marleyanimations9930
    @marleyanimations9930 Рік тому

    6:47 suzackles

  • @just.r1ce
    @just.r1ce Рік тому

    Okay 1 hundo tho the truck that knocked out mob wins

  • @Milolaidus
    @Milolaidus Рік тому

    Mob didn't beated monster Suzuki. In fact monster Suzuki was clearly stronger... for like 10 secondes. Suzuki just beated imself because he has no control over this form. The only thing mob accomplished was just resisting long enough for monster Suzuki to lost total control and self explode.
    I would say 100% Mob < Monster Suzuki brut strength (not in a long fight) < ???% Mob.

  • @BANDANA56792
    @BANDANA56792 Рік тому

    Regan just steal the show

  • @jacobedwinolano431
    @jacobedwinolano431 Рік тому

    mogami easily wins if we consider post-season 2 suzuki, since that power was stored up for years
    post-s2 suzuki is weaker than season 2 finale suzuki

  • @darajabar93
    @darajabar93 Рік тому +4

    First of all, Mob does not win against Suzuki with Rage. Mob uses 100% murderous intent, which is the absolute strongest emotion Mob has.
    The fight with Suzuki wasn't easy. SuZuki had soooo much power he lost control and couldn't use that power. Suzuki 100% was surely stronger than Mob 100% except 100% murderous intent.
    However, Mogami is very strange. How can we rate him? We have no idea how he would fight in the outside world.. But who says he's not even stronger outside????
    I would say that very easily Mogami will also only lose to Mob at 100% murderous intent in the outside world.. so around equal to Suzuki, but suzuki would still have the edge.
    I will say that Suzuki Vs Mogami will go to Suzuki's favor 9/10 of the times, but each win will be very high-diff.

  • @haoubinn
    @haoubinn Рік тому +2

    i was very much paying attention to the comparison until you started mispronouncing suzuki's name and i burst out laughing 😭😭😭 i do agree tho, not even just on the power level. he could probably easily manipulate suzuki's mind like he did with mob's. i mean come on, the guy is made out of 99.999999% strong negative emotions which is what mostly powers pyschic abilities (as seen in the series), and pair that up with his use of evil spirits. won't deny suzuki's strong af tho but mogami would win

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +1

      i can never say suzukis name right idk what it is 😭😭glad u enjoyed and and yess i love when people actually watch the video before commenting something i explained lol but i get it i can explain things wrong sometimes

    • @haoubinn
      @haoubinn Рік тому

      @@ZayuhFanClub it was a great vid tho!! keep up the good work and thank you!!

    • @roldancollado2321
      @roldancollado2321 Рік тому

      @@ZayuhFanClub suuuuzuuuukiiii but say it fast

  • @licansen3331
    @licansen3331 Рік тому

    Bro what mogami would win stop the cap

  • @MrAaaaazzzzz00009999
    @MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 Рік тому

    apaansih ""objective truth" segala, mau mau aja seperti sseth the cringegrammer power level sexual

  • @manuellopezolaciregui5415
    @manuellopezolaciregui5415 Рік тому

    What i dont agree with the video is that there is a high likely hood that mob was stronger with his fight with toichiro, this is what i believe to be an expansion in the vessel that is mob by reacing 100% its the only fathomable explanation that i can find by him getting progressively stronger. At the beggining at 100% he was doubting himself to beat even 1 scar boss. He then without going 100% is able to keep up with minegishi (the plant dude) who as a cadre should be able to over power many scar bosses at the same time like shibata or shimazaki. In turn we see this same dude get over powered by Mogami. This being said im preety sure Mob was on the verge of being killed by one of Toichiros attacks, and Mob didnt defeat Toichiro conventionally, it was just that his full power was too strong for his body. So in short Mogami took down a weaker 100% mob and forced him to go ??? And toichiro almost beat a stronger 100% i can imply by the sheer fact that there was an explosion of toichiros power that required both of their efforts to contain that 20year charge toichiro is superior to that 100% mob in pure quantity of energy or power. Meaning yea 20 year toichiro could win though i dont see Toichiro caring enough for the girl to willingly go inside therefore i give him preety good odds. No charge toichiro gets beaten however.

  • @noway6133
    @noway6133 Рік тому

    Yeah mogami was an evil spirit that mob took seriously from the jump, Suzuki was a guy mob tried to fix.

  • @che7655
    @che7655 Рік тому

    bro please stop using clips from the english dub

    • @raggosaki
      @raggosaki Рік тому +1

      Hes a person who speaks english, why would he not???

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому +1

      whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy its soooooooooooooo goooooooooooooooooooood

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      facts

    • @truedarkness4052
      @truedarkness4052 Рік тому

      Why, dub is a lot better

  • @josai3270
    @josai3270 Рік тому

    Mob is still scared of mogami, idc

  • @kingades1013
    @kingades1013 Рік тому +1

    Mogami definitely wins. The only person do far within the 3 seasons to defeat Mob at 100%. “God dimple” is stronger than current suzuki vs ??? Mob but probably not the full power version of him (years of power saved)

    • @ZayuhFanClub
      @ZayuhFanClub  Рік тому

      agreed

    • @kairu4107
      @kairu4107 Рік тому +1

      Gold dimple is strong than current suzuki but not in past suzuki, and yes mogami is strong because shigeo is in his world but compare to suzuki, suzuki is more stronger than mogami

  • @porr1chk1d11
    @porr1chk1d11 Рік тому

    6:48 soozockle my fave mob pyscho character

  • @zoomer1293
    @zoomer1293 Рік тому

    my top 10 power scale on mob psycho 100:
    1. Mob ???%.
    2. Mogami.
    3.mob 100%. (Not holding back)
    4. suzuki 20 years of energy.
    5. god dimple.
    6. divine tree.
    7. yellow head. (Season 3)
    8. 100% brother of mob.
    9. The guy who teleports.
    10. The introvert.

    • @Golden_Projects
      @Golden_Projects Рік тому

      I'd actaully scale the divine tree as probably 3rd or second, given it can absorb energy and beat god dimple

  • @alexucon
    @alexucon Рік тому

    im gonna discredit all of it cos you used dub

  • @fartmaster2292
    @fartmaster2292 26 днів тому

    suzuzki 100% win