Is Time Running Out For This Former #1 Overall Draft Pick?
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In 2023, the former #1 overall pick clubbed 30 HRs in a breakout season. In 2024, he's looking more lost than ever. Let's try and figure out what's going on with Spencer Torkelson.
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Spencer Torkelson, known 2022-year old
LOL! Love the content bro. Just found it funny.
Please don't do Henry Davis
@2:22
I noticed that, too. Funny stuff, man.
Spencer Methuselah Torkelson. Professional old man
I’m so happy that JRam quote is being immortalized by being in a Happy Grape video
He’s 24. This is pretty much is late sophomore slump. He’s got time
Look at what Soto had accomplished by age 24. Torkelson is a MAJOR BUST
@@305CardCollector Crazy to expect everyone to be Soto lol
@@vibin7027 Torkelson’s career WAR is -1.7. Crazy to call it a “sophomore slump” when he’s never had a good season
I'm not saying he's not gonna be good (He will likely figure it out to some degree) but I'd say he is likely going to end up being a bust for what his expectations were. His good season so far only resulted in a 105 ops+ as a poor fielding first baseman which is not worthy of being a full-time player. He should be able to get back to that level but is he able to find the consistency to be deserving of being a starting first baseman? Hoping that he is able to find that
*junior slump
As a tigers fan, it’s a lack of aggression. He takes low 90s fastballs down the middle especially early in the at bat. He’s swinging at the first pitch 10% less than last year. Its all mental
Reminds me of my favorite player. Christopher morel these young guys are just getting in their own way hopefully they turn it around
Which the coaches (we all know are bad) have to find a way to help him in any way
Morel is just getting insanely unlucky. I feel like he smokes a ball that gets caught every game.
@@cubsfan2016W 1000% the case he’s also playing on a bad foot every game he re injured again tonight
The Tigers inability to develop hitting prospects is something that needs to be studied. Since the turn of the century, only Bobby Higginson in 2000, Curtis Granderson in 2009 and Torkelson in 2023 have hit 30 homers in a Tigers uniform while also being a Tigers draft pick. Every other 30 homer hitter in that time frame for Detroit was a free agent or trade acquisition with almost all of them already being established hitters. Their pitching development has been great but as a Tigers fan, watching every hitting prospect we have either being a bust or they end up being far better elsewhere is so frustrating.
Sounds like the Mariners
@@drivewithbishop4426 Midwest Mariners indeed. Great Lakers if you will
Try being a giants fan. Guess the last guy to hit 30 with us
@cambusquaert9632 Mate the Giants had 3 World Series wins in 5 years just a decade ago with a league MVP that they drafted and developed, I think you've survived lmao
@@RileyJane7 don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t give those back for anything, it would be nice to break the stigma of hitting in oracle tho
2:23 I keep replaying this over and over "The then 2022 year old" Is blowing my mind lmao its beautiful
Toby Keith mentioned in a Happy Grape video? What a day
If you sort 2020 draft class by WAR Tork is dead last
Since only about 3% of the 2020 draft class (if that) have touched a major league field that would still put him in the upper echelon of the class success wise.
Still better than Asa Lacy who mailed it in very early.
Well yeah, he's bottom 10% in the majors and a large portion of that draft haven't made it to the majors
Well he’s got a lot of playing time and plays brutal defense at 1st base.
I will say as a Tigers fan, I have confidence in Torkelson. He’s a really good guy, a incredibly hard worker, and a team leader.
There’s a lot of negativity right now as a lot of Tigers fans are giving up on him and also hyper focusing on just him (a good majority of the team is slumping due to lack of aggression in the zone) however I refuse to give up on him. People seem to forget that he has just recently hit the full 2 seasons worth of games played. He missed a lot of time in the minors, and was thrown to the wolves in the Majors.
I have faith, even though a lot of other fans don’t. My bigger issue with the tigers is how incredibly conservative Scott Harris is with calling up prospects, especially when you see Zach MicKinstry and Jake Rogers getting major league AB’s while J-hen and Dillon Dingler dominate AAA.
All in all, I have faith in the person, and by proxy the ball player, and I refuse to give up on a 24 year old who’s had a 31 homer season
I think a lot of the negativity comes out of frustration knowing and seeing what is and can be in him as a player. We watch players like McKinstry and just that’s who he is. Torkelson has such a high, high ceiling (we’ve seen it), but we are watching the floor. It is nothing against him personally, it’s more aggravated because we are hoping for the guy to be great and we know he can be.
@@jordannawrocki3362 I know, I just wish so many people wouldn’t be so incredibly negative and vocal. I know he’s struggling, But I’ve never been one to call for people to be cut, or if I do I will delete the comment once I’ve calmed down
as an everyday watcher of the Tigers, this is so good. the amount of times i scream SWINGGGG at Tork per night seems to multiply daily
Or yelling c’mon man every time he does swing and it’s right through a fastball down the middle.
Can we get a modern tigers trade history, its crazy
I'd rather not have to remember any of those trades
@@Karmy.same
@@Karmy. Agreed
It will just cause more suffering
That "ho-OOOme" made me physically wince
my sweet prince Tork... Please revive your career :(
Gay
Your comedy in this video was incredible! Please keep it letting coming out
Finally, a Torkelson video.
I feel like every at bat I see of him he's popping out or making weak contact. He's so close yet so far right now. I think it will click eventually. 30 home runs last year showed that he has the potential.
every saturday i get to hear the happy grape talk about baseball with mario music in the background life is good
I'm rooting for Tork, I hope he finds a way to breakout sooner rather than later.
Don't give up on torkelson. He's a beast
Thanks for a measured and level headed take on Tork!
Scherzer wasn't a rookie, he started 30 games for Arizona the year before the Tigers traded for him
thanks for the breakdown, good stuff! fingers crossed Tork will figure it out
Saturdays are good days because we get a new Jolly video.
This video made me happy, thank you Jolly
I just want to say your taste in video game music is 10/10
5:40 I love it😂
Funny how I'm watching the Red Sox/Tigers game while I watch this. I'm a Sox fan, but I have nothing against the Tigers since 2013 when we faced them in the ALCS and they were so good, but we beat them. Hopefully Spencer figures it out...again. Great video, Jolly!
Maybe your best vid to date Jolly! Love it
Thanks for that pic of Aaron Judge - signed an O's fan
i love when boisterous banana uploads
He was drafted by the tigers who are notorious for horrendous position player development. No one wants to admit it but players careers change drastically based on who drafts you. Tork would be an all star if drafted by a Houston/Atlanta/Philadelphia/etc.
He's going to get traded to Houston in 2027 and become an All-Star that year, isn't he?
It is Tuesday, 3 days later, and yesterday the Tigers sent him down to the minors to, according to A J Hinch, to make adjustments to his swing and apparently also to improve his defense at first base.
the super mario odyssey music is so good here lol
Wassup, Jolly? Love the content, bro bro.
Thanks jolly you got him sent to AAA
Can you do something on eddy julien because I swear every time he gets to a 3-2 which is often he strikes out
You should make a series out of this called trust or bust i think it would be a good idea for young stars struggling and analyzing them
I was looking away from the screen during the God Bless America gag, and thought "man, has he just been hunting for a way to use that clip? Then I rewound and got my answer.
Good timing on this one, go see Tork rake in Toledo!
Class video.
AHHH THE PLATINUM LAKE THEME
13:10 pulling fly balls is one of the most effective way to hit more home runs
Nate Pearson is the player I’m hoping can turn it around, just want him to be a good reliever and still hope he can be a big league starter.
what was the main issue with him as a starter besides injuries etc
@@ethank-l4930 to be honest injuries dropped his name on the depth chart, eventually they wanted to get him through a season in the bullpen, unfortunately he lacks consistency and command, person I feel he tries to throw to many sliders, which I don’t get, when he throws upper 90s. I wish I could see him throw more fastballs and try to work his secondary pitches of that.
I'm a lifelong Tigers fan and I do believe that he needed to go to Toledo for some mechanics-related evaluation. He's still young and in a sophomore slump but a lot of guys don't immediately thrive in the big leagues right off the bat (*pun intended*). That being said I think he will be brought back up in due time it's not like he's a struggling vet that is kept in the lineup (AKA Javy Baez) day in and day out and is a liability in nearly all facets of his game.
Just optioned him too wow
Joey Bart. Hes already on a 2nd team. Was drafted to replace Posey. On the same team as Henry Davis.
Its kinda a shame. Though as a Giants fan Pat Bailey is a nice consolation so far
Wooded Kingdom from SMO is Jolly’s favorite background music
Its all damn over youtube lol
Love Jolly, he uses Pokemon music in his vids. Pokemon + Baseball is the best!
He’s got one of my favorite swings hope he turns it around
If he keeps it up, how about a vid on David Fry
No ! Leave Fry alone 😂
Because of MLB players' bat paths slightly curving upwards as they get through the zone, getting under fastballs IS the same as being late on it.
Oh, as a Braves fan it hurts so bad realizing they had 4 of MLBs top 6 hitters by barrel% last year, an this year with 3 of the 4 still healthy Marcell Ozuna is the only one who can hit gis way out of a paper bag.
Max Scherzer wasn't a Tiger's prospect, he wasn't even a rookie by that point
As a Tigers fan I think I can speak on this. I think whats most annoying about Tork is he is just incapable of hitting the mistake pitches. His hips go too early which makes him pull everything. He had a good like week stretch where his timing was good, but now its back to bad. Now defense is atrocious but little underrated thing with him hes elite at scooping at first. Which is helpful when your infield is a converted 3rd basemen at second, a plethora of Gods finest utility players at third, and Javier Baez at short…
I would love to see a video about Dylan Carlson. Cardinals fans including myself thought he was going to be the next face of the franchise after what he did in the second half of 2021
Do one about how the White Sox need to option Andrew Vaughn please Jolly!!!
As an ASU fan, I wanted my Dodgers to make a deal to acquire him after Justin Turner. I really hope you can figure it out in AAA and make his way back up.
Good timing for Tork to get sent down to AAA
Video on Julio Franco please
Right on cue he got optioned today, this aged well
2 Days post video drop:
Spencer Torkelson optioned to Triple A
My pro career ended the same way, here si the fix. He needs to be comfortable striking out. I know it's weird but when you have been a Pujols-style player, it's tough to get to become Adam Dunn.
Emotionally, I've given up on him. He is sort of symbolic of the team in a way, he will give you just enough to have some hope that he can turn it around then follow that up with a a week long slump. Logically, he's 24, 30 home runs simply cannot be a fluke (right?) And there is still 4 months of the season to go. But the more time he spends taking pitches he should swing and destroying his average and on base, the less time he has to bring those numbers up. I'm convinced that a combination of 2020 having no season and 2022 disaster rookie season completely destroyed his development. If he succeeds, it will not be with the tigers
Goated for the seinfeld reference
Love to see all those bottom 10 AL players on the Mariners roster.
Shows how hard the pitching is carrying them to be first in the worst division.
That’s baseball?
Someone get this video in Torkelson’s inbox asap. He might appreciate the in depth analysis.
I can't wait for you to be sponsored by morton's salt in next month's videos
If you remember back in 2022 there was so much hype between him and Jrod and most Baseball people were picking Tork to win the AL ROY. They were literally saying this dude is one of the best all around hitters that we seen in a long time. So for him to be one of the worst players in 2022 was a shock. I cant lie after last year i personally thought this was gonna be the season he really breaks out where he hit 40-50 hrs. That clearly doesn't look like its gonna happen. Hopefully he finds it cause dude definitely has the talent.
11:18 why did I die here
Because you were meant to do so.
My first baseman in fantasy baseball
I drafted him. Released him a month later, because I just didn't have the patience. So far, I haven't been proven wrong.
@@nicholastricarico2957 he had a slow start last season and turned in on after the all star break dont be surprised if he still hits 25 home runs
@@rillerTv Sent down, time to drop him
@@wyattbarnes9641 ik im pissed
11:11 lol
HAPPY GRAPE
Ozuna (From the Braves) mention
It's never too late. Jurickson Profar is actively proving this right now.
Yes
That difference is his spray chart is definitely alarming
Most relievers do throw 95+, but Ryan Yarborough does still exist (somehow)
Might just be me, but it seems EVERYONE is playing below the normal with the exception of a few players. OPS across the league is down, teams like the Braves and Dodgers aren’t as offensively potent. Seems like pitchers have a greater advantage this season.
he’s in his own head to much. The power and talent is still there us tiger fans see it. It’s just all mental for tork he’s gotta get outta his head
Why not to focus on, Homer's as a primary hit but, keep the ball down and, or find gaps in the infield and, out field. Home runs are a mistake pitch pro-level hitters make, pitcher pay for.
With the pitcher aspest: home runs are mistakes they make with, not locating or a fast but, hitable fast ball down the middle.
You're talking bout time running out for Torkelson who is only in his third year and not Casey Mize? Come on bro
Jolly olive makes a video. A day and half later Tork is sent down
I saw the title and I thought it would be about Mickey Moniak
Is that the Lake Verity theme from Pokémon D&P I hear?
My sweet Torkapatamous prince, he will figure things out soon
He hit a lot of Tork 💣s at ASU that’s for sure
8 million sign on bonus....yeah he's set for life either way.
24, still got time. Next year is make or break though
Reminds me of Jared Kelenic, all mental
tork will be fine, the dudes not even 24 yet. he’s gonna figure it out like all hitters do
Not all hitters figure it out.
@@RupertMumphrey hitters in the big leagues do. that’s what they do
@@braden_clancy11 Then why do some of them perform badly? Why don’t they just “figure it out” and get better?
I knew it, I knew it I knew it I knew it.
Dude is a right handed Jarred Kelenic. I smelled it since his draft day. He just seemed too good to be true
As a tigers fan I have a hard time with this. He feels like a bust. But then he hit like 30 HR in the last half of last season. So he showed he had it. Now he's doing terrible again. Idk man
Spencer Tork, jarred kelenic and Joe adell should all seek counseling
thank you for not going near andrew vaughn
Man i just want him to do well were both from the same town :(
His swing is jacked. He's consciously pulling his hand off the bat. It's not natural. Dude isn't enjoying the game because he isn't the best player on the team and he's letting it affect him big time. Smh.
watched him go 0 for 7 vs the pirates so yeah
being a tigers fan is hard.
Did anyone catch “Sid” Judge?
Pearl Vision might help
Tigers def watched this earlier today