The Ichiro trade actially has a good reason to it. During 2012, the mariners were obviously trying to rebuild. The issue was that Ichiro was still under contract, costing them $18 million a year. Seeing this, Ichiro wanted to leave the team by 2013. He said that the team has so many young players who need to be given a chance and him on the team was preventing that, so he wanted to leave in order to help the team in the long run. Ichiro was a Griffey and subsequently Mariners fan growing up and him wanting to get traded in order to help the team is something that Ichiro would do.
Not exactly. Ichiro had major issues with the front office. He knew they'd never build a winner and wanted to play in the post season. The Mariners pissing off Ichiro was a pretty common thing, they pushed him to asking for a trade multiple times.
One thing to keep in mind: Although he later denied it, Dempster supposedly vetoed a trade to the Braves for Randall Delgado. If that story is true, he did the Cubs a massive favor, even if they didn't know it at the time.
Yep he did indeed veto the braves trade. Also Hendricks wasn’t seen as the prize of the return for the cubs , it was Christian Villanueva who was suppose to had been the prize
Based on how poorly he played he did the Braves a favor as well. Delgado would later be included in trade package for Justin Upton. Upton was valuable on the field and later off when traded for Max Fried.
Marco Scutaro mentioned that some of the Giants players started calling him “Blockbuster” because there were all these other massively hyped deals going on, when he was the biggest steal for that year.
The 2012 deadline was one of my fondest early memories as a baseball fan. I remember listening to the radio in the car after my little league game got rained out and hearing that Ichiro was traded to the yanks.. and watching MLB network on the tiny tv in the kitchen when news broke after 4 pm that Dempster was traded. Thanks for allowing me to relive it all, Jolly🙌
Ive always really liked the content but Id really like to see some stuff outside of this decade. I understand it was his childhood decade when most of us fall in love with the game. Mine was the 90s and the 00s. Would love to see more stuff in the Jolly Olive format that took place in the 70s 80s 90s and 00s. Theres some wild stuff that happened back then that most of the younger viewers of this channel would love to hear about. Steroids were not the only thing that happened in the 90s especially. It was a very different game. Not better or worse, just different.
I know this was in August 2012 after the non-waiver deadline, but don’t forget the Sox traded Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford, and Nick Punto to the Dodgers for Allen Webster, Jerry Sands, Rubby De La Rosa, Ivan De Jesus, and James Loney. The Dodgers ate those contracts so it was a salary dump for Boston. None of those prospects panned out. Still makes it feel like we traded prospect Anthony Rizzo out of Boston for nothing (he was traded to acquire Adrian Gonzalez)
The trade doesn’t feel like a win for either team, because the Dodgers acquired those guys to chase a championship, but never won with any of them. Meanwhile none of the prospects panned out for the Red Sox, but dropping those contracts did set the table for their 2013 additions, which led to a championship for them.
It’s crazy to think none of those prospects worked out for Boston yet they literally won the World Series the next year by picking up good role players like Gomes, Napoli and victorino. I love baseball
Hearing all those old Astro names really made me smile, 03 to 12 was some of my favorite era of baseball and loved watching the Astros when I got the chance, even after the tanking began that pinstripe open star look and colors are still my favorites for the 'Stros
Potential Video Idea that I think would be interesting: Teams that sold at the deadline, but still managed to make the playoffs. Keep up the great content!
This just proves that trading away Shohei is just as risky as keeping him. Great video by the way Jolly. Always love your trade deadline videos (and ur videos overall)
When Grienke came up I thought "I wonder how many viewers will be surprised to learn he was an Angels deadline trade?" Then Jolly says "Neither team really benefitted or were hurt by it so it isn't very memorable" and I was like "Yep".
One of my favorite years in baseball. I was 21 and the Yankees were having a great regular season and just kept getting better. Jeter had a career comeback, Andy Pettitte returned, Rafael Soriano was nearly perfect, Ichiro was a fantastic hitter at the top of the lineup. Granderson decided to whack 40 homeruns...again. Miguel Cabrera was showing the world his true peak. Mike Trout was making a splash. Verlander was winning a crazy amount of games. Johan Santana threw a no hitter. Chipper was getting a farewell. Boston was dead despite having a great team on paper.
This video made me realize that Greinke is still pitching - and he's having a nightmare of a season. He's literally 1-14 he needs to hang it up, he's ruining his HOF numbers. I still think he's pretty much a lock for the HOF though. Great video as usual J.O. One little note - you failed to mention that Dempster won a WS ring with the Red Sox in his last season in 2013.
The Ichiro Trade singlehandedly destroyed my Baseball Fandom. Now I mainly watch random videos on history and haven't watched a game or even looked at standings in over a decade.
Boy I'll say. Up until the trade, the most RBI he ever had in a season was 60. He had 44 in just 61 games with the Giants, batting .362 as a 36 year old! I knew he was the NLCS MVP, but man he just stared crushing it the moment he put on the orange & black. Sabean's pickups during that time were something else :)
Back in 2012 I was 14 and even though the season wasn't going our way I still thought and had hope they'd extend Pence and they'd buy at the deadline. Then when they traded Victorino the reality of this Phillies teams run being over really hit me.
Maybe I’m folding myself but wasn’t that Dodgers/Red Sox trade involving Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford and Josh Beckett a part of that 2012 deadline? Or are we not counting that cuz it was a waiver deadline trade which came after the initial trade deadline
Victorino didn't come up through the Phillies system. He debuted for San Diego after being rule 5 drafted in 2003, struggled and was returned, and then stuck with the Phillies when LA decided not to take him back after he failed to make the MLB roster out of Spring Training. He spent most of the year with Scranton and won IL MVP, but most of his development took place in the Dodgers system.
Ugh, the 2012 trade deadline was a massive disappointment as a Rangers fan. They were trying to ward off the Angels and A's and get back to the World Series but the only move was Ryan Dempster. It was so bad that I was calling it a Ryan Dumpster trade when it was made. Naturally they collapsed afterward and got overtaken by the A's, and haven't done much of anything since.
That trade actually happened in August during the waiver period (back then you could still make trades until August 31 as long as players cleared waivers first). So technically it was after the “trade deadline” that everyone talks about
This is why when I hear Mets fans talk about how they won the trade deadline I am always says let’s wait and see how these prospects look..Houston made all those deals and got nothing in return
The Phillies managed to pull off an incredible feat from 2008-2012. They won a WS, then lost a WS, then lost a NLCS, then lost their NLDS, then didn't make the playoffs. The most steady decline in history.
question mr jolly olive are u the guy that sometimes call into sheehan show on wtem 980 giving him hell for years??? if its you whadup guy u were alwayz knowledgeable and entertaining to listen
while thome's the bigger name, i think the bigger trade for the orioles was for joe saunders. i don't think they win that play-in game without him on the mound
The Ichiro trade actially has a good reason to it. During 2012, the mariners were obviously trying to rebuild. The issue was that Ichiro was still under contract, costing them $18 million a year. Seeing this, Ichiro wanted to leave the team by 2013. He said that the team has so many young players who need to be given a chance and him on the team was preventing that, so he wanted to leave in order to help the team in the long run.
Ichiro was a Griffey and subsequently Mariners fan growing up and him wanting to get traded in order to help the team is something that Ichiro would do.
Not exactly. Ichiro had major issues with the front office. He knew they'd never build a winner and wanted to play in the post season. The Mariners pissing off Ichiro was a pretty common thing, they pushed him to asking for a trade multiple times.
One thing to keep in mind: Although he later denied it, Dempster supposedly vetoed a trade to the Braves for Randall Delgado. If that story is true, he did the Cubs a massive favor, even if they didn't know it at the time.
Yep he did indeed veto the braves trade. Also Hendricks wasn’t seen as the prize of the return for the cubs , it was Christian Villanueva who was suppose to had been the prize
He also vetoed a trade to the Cardinals
Based on how poorly he played he did the Braves a favor as well. Delgado would later be included in trade package for Justin Upton. Upton was valuable on the field and later off when traded for Max Fried.
He one hundred percent vetoed the trade
Marco Scutaro mentioned that some of the Giants players started calling him “Blockbuster” because there were all these other massively hyped deals going on, when he was the biggest steal for that year.
Oh yeah we love Marco Scutaro
The 2012 deadline was one of my fondest early memories as a baseball fan. I remember listening to the radio in the car after my little league game got rained out and hearing that Ichiro was traded to the yanks.. and watching MLB network on the tiny tv in the kitchen when news broke after 4 pm that Dempster was traded. Thanks for allowing me to relive it all, Jolly🙌
Ive always really liked the content but Id really like to see some stuff outside of this decade. I understand it was his childhood decade when most of us fall in love with the game. Mine was the 90s and the 00s. Would love to see more stuff in the Jolly Olive format that took place in the 70s 80s 90s and 00s. Theres some wild stuff that happened back then that most of the younger viewers of this channel would love to hear about. Steroids were not the only thing that happened in the 90s especially. It was a very different game. Not better or worse, just different.
I know this was in August 2012 after the non-waiver deadline, but don’t forget the Sox traded Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford, and Nick Punto to the Dodgers for Allen Webster, Jerry Sands, Rubby De La Rosa, Ivan De Jesus, and James Loney.
The Dodgers ate those contracts so it was a salary dump for Boston. None of those prospects panned out. Still makes it feel like we traded prospect Anthony Rizzo out of Boston for nothing (he was traded to acquire Adrian Gonzalez)
The trade doesn’t feel like a win for either team, because the Dodgers acquired those guys to chase a championship, but never won with any of them. Meanwhile none of the prospects panned out for the Red Sox, but dropping those contracts did set the table for their 2013 additions, which led to a championship for them.
I'm glad you pointed this out, I was questioning my memory there for a second.
It’s crazy to think none of those prospects worked out for Boston yet they literally won the World Series the next year by picking up good role players like Gomes, Napoli and victorino. I love baseball
Most underrated UA-camr
You can say that again
And one hell of a “ball in play” player, not to mention a dangerous “blitzball” bat.
He’s like the biggest baseball UA-camr. People just use the word “underrated” to mean good now.
@@radiodummiesdefinitely not😊
I disagree. I think he’s properly rated as the best channel on UA-cam.
Jolly and Bailey posting on the same day? It’s a trade deadline miracle!
both are about the 2012 season too
It's always a good day when jolly olive uploads.
Hearing all those old Astro names really made me smile, 03 to 12 was some of my favorite era of baseball and loved watching the Astros when I got the chance, even after the tanking began that pinstripe open star look and colors are still my favorites for the 'Stros
this man really never misses with a video. So great everytime keep it up!
Just happy to hear somebody talking about Carlos Lee, one of my favorite players growing up
Loved watching him while the Astros were descending into the Lastros, he was a highlight on some mediocre squads
I was so happy that the Angels got Greinke. Even though it didn't pan out, it was so cool seeing him pitch for us
A rare Angels fan salute to you but you guys had some interesting pieces that are forgot about
Potential Video Idea that I think would be interesting:
Teams that sold at the deadline, but still managed to make the playoffs. Keep up the great content!
This just proves that trading away Shohei is just as risky as keeping him.
Great video by the way Jolly. Always love your trade deadline videos (and ur videos overall)
This is great for the grid Jolly, thank you
2 MLB UA-camrs posting videos about 2012 at the exact same time is hilarious
Jolly, you never fail to impress. Every video is spectacular and I can never wait for the next one. Great job
Thank you. Feel like I've hit my stride lately and I appreciate the feedback.
This is such an awesome video. Thanks for another one Jolly
You also had the Sox fire sale to the Dodgers that August
When Grienke came up I thought "I wonder how many viewers will be surprised to learn he was an Angels deadline trade?" Then Jolly says "Neither team really benefitted or were hurt by it so it isn't very memorable" and I was like "Yep".
I know all the Red Sox major stuff happened after the deadline in 2012, but their fire sale deserves mention I think
Jolly Olive is the unsung hero of Jomboy Media
I’m gonna need to remember some of these for my immaculate grids in the future
One of my favorite years in baseball. I was 21 and the Yankees were having a great regular season and just kept getting better.
Jeter had a career comeback, Andy Pettitte returned, Rafael Soriano was nearly perfect, Ichiro was a fantastic hitter at the top of the lineup. Granderson decided to whack 40 homeruns...again.
Miguel Cabrera was showing the world his true peak. Mike Trout was making a splash. Verlander was winning a crazy amount of games. Johan Santana threw a no hitter. Chipper was getting a farewell. Boston was dead despite having a great team on paper.
Jolly Olive is killing it
Great content I just subscribed💪💪💪💪
Another jolly olive trade deadline video W
Paused by chance at 7:38, and hey, look who's on the scoreboard as the winning pitcher for Pittsburgh, the aforementioned Wandy Rodriguez!
Always enjoy these jolly keep ‘em coming
I literally went to one of Ichiro’s first games as a Yankee but completely forgot he played there
This video made me realize that Greinke is still pitching - and he's having a nightmare of a season. He's literally 1-14 he needs to hang it up, he's ruining his HOF numbers. I still think he's pretty much a lock for the HOF though. Great video as usual J.O. One little note - you failed to mention that Dempster won a WS ring with the Red Sox in his last season in 2013.
Love these videos, they definitely take me back
Love your videos. This might be your best one yet.
Seeing the Ryan Dempster trade almost ten years later was a big win with the Cubs.
12:20 Just got off the phone with my mom talking about how the rockies should trade half the roster 😭
The Ichiro Trade singlehandedly destroyed my Baseball Fandom. Now I mainly watch random videos on history and haven't watched a game or even looked at standings in over a decade.
The Dempster trade was massive for the Cubs. Hendricks is a Chicago legend and a super reliable starter
All these Houston moves set them up nice for 2017- present
Shoutout to R.A Dickey and Josh Thole (traded in the winter 2012) for Syndergaard, d’Arnaud, Joe Buck
Marco Scutaro most underrated pick up of the entire deadline.
Boy I'll say. Up until the trade, the most RBI he ever had in a season was 60. He had 44 in just 61 games with the Giants, batting .362 as a 36 year old! I knew he was the NLCS MVP, but man he just stared crushing it the moment he put on the orange & black. Sabean's pickups during that time were something else :)
i like “ladies, gentlemen, everyone outside & in between”
Back in 2012 I was 14 and even though the season wasn't going our way I still thought and had hope they'd extend Pence and they'd buy at the deadline.
Then when they traded Victorino the reality of this Phillies teams run being over really hit me.
Matt Dominguez hit the lone bomb at Minute Maid in the first MLB game I ever attended
Maybe I’m folding myself but wasn’t that Dodgers/Red Sox trade involving Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford and Josh Beckett a part of that 2012 deadline? Or are we not counting that cuz it was a waiver deadline trade which came after the initial trade deadline
Victorino didn't come up through the Phillies system. He debuted for San Diego after being rule 5 drafted in 2003, struggled and was returned, and then stuck with the Phillies when LA decided not to take him back after he failed to make the MLB roster out of Spring Training. He spent most of the year with Scranton and won IL MVP, but most of his development took place in the Dodgers system.
2012 was 11 years ago? Fuck I'm old
Gonna take notes for immaculate grid
1:07 the word that pops into my mind, personally, is “thumptuous” trademark filings tba…
Love your videos!
Babe wake up the Jolliest Olive posted
Today gotta be a great day cuz Jolly olive and foolish baseball uploaded
2015 was wild too
Jolly I’m a huge brewers fan and my favorite team is 2011 team and no one talks about them. They were very underrated.
2011 brewers are definitely underrated, Braun/Fielder duo was deadly
Would like to see a vid on andres galarraga
I somehow got to his bref and idk I was just kinda interested abt him more
Can’t believe you forgot the Adrian gonzalez, Carl Crawford trade to the dodgers
Ugh, the 2012 trade deadline was a massive disappointment as a Rangers fan. They were trying to ward off the Angels and A's and get back to the World Series but the only move was Ryan Dempster. It was so bad that I was calling it a Ryan Dumpster trade when it was made. Naturally they collapsed afterward and got overtaken by the A's, and haven't done much of anything since.
I still have no idea why the Phillies traded Pence. Horrible trade.
I disagree. I think it was a great trade.
The dodgers Red Sox trade that year was one of the biggest in my opinion. Can’t believe he didn’t talk about it.
That trade actually happened in August during the waiver period (back then you could still make trades until August 31 as long as players cleared waivers first). So technically it was after the “trade deadline” that everyone talks about
This is why when I hear Mets fans talk about how they won the trade deadline I am always says let’s wait and see how these prospects look..Houston made all those deals and got nothing in return
This one might be just as crazy, the next few days are certainly going to be interesting
Pls do a vid about Adam jones. Idc what the main topic is. Just need an Adam jones video. Keep up the good work king
These videos are awesome
I wish you showed the acrobatic run scored by Ichiro in the ALDS
these man’s vids are criminally underrated also first comment
The infamous Nick Punto trade!
While watching this, got the notification that Jordan Montgomery was traded to the Rangers.
Myers had previously been a closer for the 2007 Phillies
Can you review other deadlines too like early to 2000s to mid mid 2010s?
3:11 Wait...Padres Joe Musgrove?
Edit: Holy hell, indeed it was
Jolly is awesome
Hearing the Giants described as “the Bay Area juggernaut” makes me happy
4:40 itd be kind of impressive if he had a negative ERA+ lol
What about Boston trading A-Gon, Crawford, Beckett, and Punto??!
The Phillies managed to pull off an incredible feat from 2008-2012. They won a WS, then lost a WS, then lost a NLCS, then lost their NLDS, then didn't make the playoffs. The most steady decline in history.
Im surprised the red sox didnt do muxh with how bad they were this season
I think you should WRITE that book Jolly
I forgot about Carlos Lee. He was damn good.
LaDainian Tomlinson was the 2007 NFL rushing leader
Wake up honey it's jolly olive upload day!
question mr jolly olive are u the guy that sometimes call into sheehan show on wtem 980 giving him hell for years??? if its you whadup guy u were alwayz knowledgeable and entertaining to listen
Jolly GOAT
Man the Astros have always had great uniforms.
Liriano was literally the ENTIRE reason the White Sox missed the playoffs that season
Did you match your shirt and hat to that book on purpose?
As a dbacks fan that Escobar trade hurts now
Where is Broxton from Kc to Cincinnati!?
We need a Kershaw Dominance video
while thome's the bigger name, i think the bigger trade for the orioles was for joe saunders. i don't think they win that play-in game without him on the mound
Do u have some kind of contract where you get paid every time you say the word “flurry”?
Khalil Greene video is coming soon I can feel it!
Yankees legend Ichiro Suzuki 🔥
Random office book is the real mvp
Other than shamelessly stealing a Bo Burnham bit at the start, solid video 😂
Great video
Nice vid but JOEY WENDLE 90'S GRAPHIC TEE NOW
I forgot Thome played on the Orioles
The Marlins do not play in South Beach.
SO. MANY. PHILLIES IN THIS VIDEO.
Do a 90's or 01-03 deadline next
shoutout to bo burnham on the book joke