As an Angels fan I can’t wait to see those prospects we traded last year turn into HoF players in the next few years because that’s exactly what I expect from anything we do.
@@billykl2790If O's new owners throw the right contract out there to Burnes he may sign. You make it sound like Burnes definitely will be one and done in Baltimore. Not considered a rental just yet. Hall and Ortiz potentially could be better than most think. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Hall becomes a lock down closer. Ortiz has an elite glove and can hit for average not alot of pop in his bat.I personally think the Orioles got the better of this trade. However I don't believe like most that the Brewers got fleeced as badly as most make it out to be. It wouldn't surprise me down the road if the Brewers win this trade. I know it sounds crazy now.
Arizona aquired Richie Sexson in exchange for 6 players, all of whom helped the Brewers dig their franchise out of the 12-year loosing streak. Sexson played 23 games for AZ, got injured, and signed with Seattle in the off-season.
Yea none of those turned out to be anything special you don’t know what your talking about junior had one all star appearance (AZ)and Chris capuano had one by default because he played for shitty team and each team has to have a representative for the all star game
The Giants also once traded their top prospect (Zach Wheeler who was a TOP-10 MLB prospect at the time) for a couple months of an injured Carlos Beltran. As a Giants fan, that one really stings. Imagine a rotation of Wheeler, Cain, Bumgarner, and Lincecum? Its also a reminder that they used to draft great players.
We wasted future Cy young candidate who would have thrived in a pitchers ballpark like SF, for a 2011 team that we knew wasn't doing anything that year. I mean our shortstops that year were Emmanuel Burriss, Jeff Keppinger, and Orlando Cabrera.
I'm not saying it wasn't a bad trade, but Wheeler wasn't a top-10 prospect in 2011, he was more like top-50 at the time. Wheeler became a top 10 prospect in 2013 a few years after the original trade, and obviously, we know how the rest turns out.
@@grant5122 he was drafted #6 overall in 2009 and was the Giant's top pitching prospect. You are right though, he was around #50 before the 2011 season & #20 before 2012. Of course the top 10 then was guys like Trout, Harper, and Machado. And of course you never really know with prospects, especially pitchers. I just think its a more obvious example of a bad rental trade result given the advantage of hindsight.
Hey Jolly have you ever thought about making a video about the most anomalous guys to win an MVP or Cy Young? Like guys who had overall meh or bad careers but had one magical season? Would love to see it. Keep up the great work
As an A's fan, the 2014 trade that sent Céspedes to the Red Sox for Lester and Gomes goes down as the worst trade/rental in their history. At the time they were 2.5 games above the Angels in the AL West, but collapsed after the trade and couldn't hit. Céspedes was the heart of the clubhouse and served as a good protection behind Donaldson and Moss. Lester was a rental and didn't even seem like he wanted to be there. In the Wild Card game, Lester was terrible and his inability to hold runners at first was exposed against the small ball Royals.
the part where you hyped up ben zobrist's 2009 season just made me appreciate Pujols' 2009 season even more. Pujols played the whole season at 1B and had MORE WAR than Zobrist?? crazy
Nelson Cruz was both impressive and disappointing. He obviously provided no defensive upside as a DH, and he didn't provide the offense they wanted. On the flip side, the mentorship he provided to guys like Yandy, Randy, and Wander (before Wander did Wander things) is something that helped make them better hitters. So, if anything, they got that. But despite that, I think losing Ryan was not ideal for a team whose rotation is *always* injured.
Yes, hopefully PCA learns to hit MLB pitching this year. I’m sure Counsell giving him adequate playing time vs Ross letting him waste away on the bench will help. Otherwise aside from the 2016 playoff run and 3/4 of the 2018 season where he was MVP front runner Baez was a few highlight reel plays sprinkled in with plenty of GIDP and whiffs on sliders 2ft off the plate.
I am glad you mentioned the Boddicker for Anderson and Schilling trade. I know it doesn't count as a rental trade because he still pitched for another two years for Boston but still. Too bad Schilling was moved before he could establish himself with the O's.
Eric Gagne to the Red Sox in 07. Sucked for the Sox. Only player to Texas that did anything was David Murphy. Not elite but a solid bench player with hustle for many years.
Bagwell for Anderson was not meant to be a one-month rental. Anderson had signed a multi-year deal with the Astros before the season, but it was voided AFTER the trade, when the MLBPA won a collusion suit vs the owners. Not that it made the swap that much worse, but it made it less than a pure rental.
You should talk about Kyle Wright’s unexpected 21-5 season in 2022 at least I thought it was unexpected and it also his first full season as a big leaguer.
Cardinals giving away Zac Gallen and Sandy Alcantara for a season of Marcell Ozuna comes to mind. Marcell wasnt bad by any means but they gave away the future at the top of their rotation
I always think of Bagwell as being a home grown Astro. I know he’s not, I know he’s not from the state, but he spent so long there that it feels like he was just born in Houston.
Starling Marte for Jesus Luzardo. Yeah, Marte was good in Oakland, but the A’s didn’t make the playoffs and went into rebuild mode that same offseason. Luzardo meanwhile has become one of the games most electric young pitchers and still has a ton of control left
As a White Sox fan I've always hated the Jeff Samardzija trade in 2015. Gave up Marcus Semien and Chris Bassitt for one of Shark's worst seasons on a team that honestly wasn't that good in the first place.
5:56 the fact that this is a serious moment in a drama movie is crazy to me. No i have not seen it and i will not be seeing it any time soon. When im in the mood for a divorce movie i will watch Kramer vs Kramer. First things first u know
To be fair... the Red Sox did give up a prospect named Carl Pavano and Tony Armas (Junior) to the Expos for some guy named Pedro Martinez (Jaime, not Aquino)... so... not all bad.
idk if this qualifies as a rental trade but i view it as one because i knew no way he would stay more than 2-3 years and he actually did ok but how about the braves trading for tex? braves ended up giving away neftali feliz who was easily one of the best closers in the league for years who i think would have lasted longer if the rangers didnt try screwing with him, elvis andrus a solid ss for years, and matt harrison who was a pretty solid back of the rotation guy for years as well
THANK YOU! I'm an Astro fan and I hate the Red Sox, but c'mon, Bagwell might have never gotten to the majors in Boston. That was a sound trade - the Red Sox got what they needed and the Astros got a prospect. NO ONE knew what Bagwell would become. Don't get me wrong... I'm sure glad we got him, but we certainly didn't rip off anyone at the time. It's easy to look at something in hindsight and judge.
I don’t think it’s fair to say the Cruz trade was bad. It made some sense since they didn’t have a legit power bat. Joe Ryan was also slightly blocked like you said with the pitching machine.
I hope that turns to be a fleece. But we still got a little way to go to see. I know one thing. PCA is one of best defensive CF in the league already so if he can start producing some offense. It's definitely gonna be a fleece
I think Baez to the Mets has to be up there, too. PCA is gonna be a stud then throw in the thumbs down thing too, all for a season where they didn’t make the playoffs
As someone who grew up going to New Britain minor league games, I have a nitpick: the images at 14:44 are of the wrong stadium. The New Britain Red Sox, which they were in 1990, played at Beehive Field. After the 1994 season, the Red Sox dropped their affiliation, the Twins picked it up, and the team became the Rock Cats; a year later, they moved next door (like, they share a parking lot) into New Britain Stadium, which is the field in the images at 14:44. (Those 16-foot outfield walls are unmistakable.)
@@samssportsshoplol Báez had the best stretch of his career in his tenure with the Mets and trevor Williams was actually an unsung hero much of the season and a half he was a met. PCA hasn’t even recorded a major league hit yet. Sure I think he could be a potential gold glover and all star one day but let’s see him get a hit first.
As an Angels fan I can’t wait to see those prospects we traded last year turn into HoF players in the next few years because that’s exactly what I expect from anything we do.
It might be in contention for the worst trade deadline a team ever had.
Tbf if they stayed on the angels they prob wouldn’t develop anyways
@@jchoi0620 yeah we have always had a terrible farm system in terms of development it’s rough
The white sox will trade bush and quero before they become good
Hopefully they bring a big league team to Anaheim soon. That's a big park for a AA club
I love that you used the lake theme from Pokemon Diamond and Pearl at 9:20. 2006 was a good year for gaming.
Was just about to comment this same thing
Was there a bit of Mt. Sinnoh at the end?
I had to stop what I was doing and turn up the vid to make sure I wasn’t just going crazy
“Making the burn of the trade worse”
*shows Corbin Burnes*
god this is why Jolly Olive is awesome
The O's didn't give up any of their top prospects for the rental they only got better
@@billykl2790If O's new owners throw the right contract out there to Burnes he may sign. You make it sound like Burnes definitely will be one and done in Baltimore. Not considered a rental just yet. Hall and Ortiz potentially could be better than most think. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Hall becomes a lock down closer. Ortiz has an elite glove and can hit for average not alot of pop in his bat.I personally think the Orioles got the better of this trade. However I don't believe like most that the Brewers got fleeced as badly as most make it out to be. It wouldn't surprise me down the road if the Brewers win this trade. I know it sounds crazy now.
Arizona aquired Richie Sexson in exchange for 6 players, all of whom helped the Brewers dig their franchise out of the 12-year loosing streak. Sexson played 23 games for AZ, got injured, and signed with Seattle in the off-season.
Yea none of those turned out to be anything special you don’t know what your talking about junior had one all star appearance (AZ)and Chris capuano had one by default because he played for shitty team and each team has to have a representative for the all star game
And all of those players besides counsell were long gone before they made the playoffs
Losing*
The Giants also once traded their top prospect (Zach Wheeler who was a TOP-10 MLB prospect at the time) for a couple months of an injured Carlos Beltran. As a Giants fan, that one really stings. Imagine a rotation of Wheeler, Cain, Bumgarner, and Lincecum? Its also a reminder that they used to draft great players.
Farhan must have just an awful draft record in his tenure. Honestly no idea how that man still has a job.
We wasted future Cy young candidate who would have thrived in a pitchers ballpark like SF, for a 2011 team that we knew wasn't doing anything that year. I mean our shortstops that year were Emmanuel Burriss, Jeff Keppinger, and Orlando Cabrera.
@@michaelvincent843 me either. The only 1st rounder who might work out so far is Bailey and he probably won't be much of a hitter.
I'm not saying it wasn't a bad trade, but Wheeler wasn't a top-10 prospect in 2011, he was more like top-50 at the time. Wheeler became a top 10 prospect in 2013 a few years after the original trade, and obviously, we know how the rest turns out.
@@grant5122 he was drafted #6 overall in 2009 and was the Giant's top pitching prospect. You are right though, he was around #50 before the 2011 season & #20 before 2012. Of course the top 10 then was guys like Trout, Harper, and Machado. And of course you never really know with prospects, especially pitchers. I just think its a more obvious example of a bad rental trade result given the advantage of hindsight.
Hey Jolly have you ever thought about making a video about the most anomalous guys to win an MVP or Cy Young? Like guys who had overall meh or bad careers but had one magical season? Would love to see it. Keep up the great work
Jake Arrieta comes to mind
Steve Stone, 1980 with the Orioles. A mediocre 11 year career highlighted by a 25-7 season.
@@ryanfigueroa9862he had like 2.5 really good years
@@ryanfigueroa9862Jake Arrieta had 4 really good years with the Cubs, he definitely does not fit this category
RA Dickey for the Mets in 2013
5:02 Love that you added The Simpsons Hit and Run Level 2 song, brings back memories playing it on the GameCube.
You’re really making me want to break out my PS2 and play MLB PowerPros again Jolly
Aubrey Huff looked like he was cosplaying as Jay Buhner. 😆
The Diamond and Pearl Lake music was a lovely touch. Awesome vid as always Jolly Olive
Noticed it around the 10 minute mark a scroll for the comment😂
When you showed the Red Sox I 100% thought you were gonna say Heathcliff Slocumb for Varitek and Lowex
9:23 That lakes theme from DPPT caught me out of guard. I love Gen 4
Great video! Loved the commercial clips
Another terrible Giants rental trade we traded away Zach Wheeler for Carlos Beltran
Curtis “grounderson” for the 2017 Dodgers. He struck out or grounded to second like every AB.
Almost 100k bro! Glad to be here for most of the journey
The MLB Power Pros career mode theme music went so crazy
We need mlb power pros 24
As an A's fan, the 2014 trade that sent Céspedes to the Red Sox for Lester and Gomes goes down as the worst trade/rental in their history. At the time they were 2.5 games above the Angels in the AL West, but collapsed after the trade and couldn't hit. Céspedes was the heart of the clubhouse and served as a good protection behind Donaldson and Moss. Lester was a rental and didn't even seem like he wanted to be there. In the Wild Card game, Lester was terrible and his inability to hold runners at first was exposed against the small ball Royals.
Great content as always, thanks so much dude !! 🎉
the part where you hyped up ben zobrist's 2009 season just made me appreciate Pujols' 2009 season even more. Pujols played the whole season at 1B and had MORE WAR than Zobrist?? crazy
He said the 2018 season lol
@@andrewargel9250You are wrong, you must’ve heard him saying “2008 team.”
I love these videos bruh keep them uploading
Larry Anderson is still hilarious. He’s on the radio call for Phillies home games…he’s a national treasure
Great as always Jolly! Keep it up! The quest to 100,000!!!!
Thanks for the video man it was good.
Dude loving the Mario and Pokémon music in the background lol not what I expected to say the least.
The weirdest part of this video is the phrase “103 win Oakland a’s”
All I know is the MLB Power Pros and Pokemon music choices are impeccable
UA-cam while you eat hits so different with a Jolly Olive vid man
12:42 LA is still hilarious as the Phillies radio color commentator.
Thank you, Oolly Jlive.
“Almost 2 decades ago, 2006.” Yikes 2006 feels like yesterday
bro i’m like “ oh so late 1980s” then boom he shows 06😭
I doubt anyone notices it. But I love the fact you used Mario Odyssey music lmao
flower kingdom!!
Somehow you just keep getting better at this. Another banger.
Nelson Cruz was both impressive and disappointing. He obviously provided no defensive upside as a DH, and he didn't provide the offense they wanted. On the flip side, the mentorship he provided to guys like Yandy, Randy, and Wander (before Wander did Wander things) is something that helped make them better hitters. So, if anything, they got that. But despite that, I think losing Ryan was not ideal for a team whose rotation is *always* injured.
1: Sorry for Wander.
2: Sorry not sorry for trading Nelly and taking "Flow" Ryan from you. ;)
@@katherineberger6329 I don't blame you one bit.. and thanks btw 😅
The Mets rental trade for Javy Baez feels like it's going to sting for a long time. Worst part is Mets weren't close to being a legit contender then
Yes, hopefully PCA learns to hit MLB pitching this year. I’m sure Counsell giving him adequate playing time vs Ross letting him waste away on the bench will help.
Otherwise aside from the 2016 playoff run and 3/4 of the 2018 season where he was MVP front runner Baez was a few highlight reel plays sprinkled in with plenty of GIDP and whiffs on sliders 2ft off the plate.
A jolly olive vid right after I finish watching the Wake n Jake catcher tier list? Sign me up
Jolly Olive still being under 100k is ridiculous the baseballs world needs to do better
The Sinnoh Diamond and Pearl music is FIRE
I am glad you mentioned the Boddicker for Anderson and Schilling trade. I know it doesn't count as a rental trade because he still pitched for another two years for Boston but still. Too bad Schilling was moved before he could establish himself with the O's.
Eric Gagne to the Red Sox in 07. Sucked for the Sox. Only player to Texas that did anything was David Murphy. Not elite but a solid bench player with hustle for many years.
As soon as I saw the title, my mind went to Gagne.
Bagwell for Anderson was not meant to be a one-month rental. Anderson had signed a multi-year deal with the Astros before the season, but it was voided AFTER the trade, when the MLBPA won a collusion suit vs the owners. Not that it made the swap that much worse, but it made it less than a pure rental.
Jolly Olive is the best baseball UA-camr and its not even close
I can't believe you didn't include Heathcliff Slocumb for Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek (1997)
There has got to be a few from the Tigers. Acquiring bad rentals in the early 10s and giving away bad ones in the late 10s.
Great hat there jolly
great work!
I’d love to see a part 2!
The Yankees get rentals all the time and they never work out recently
I’d say Rizzo turned out to be a pretty good rental trade
@@TheShachattack13 that is true
@@NicolasTerminidavid robertson, britton, rizzo
@@pizzaparity those guys weren’t the rentals
More Sonic '06 music warms my heart.
You cannot make this video without mentioning that the Cardinals gave up sandy alcantara and zac gallen for one year of Ozuna, Ozuna from the braves
Two years, not a rental
You should talk about Kyle Wright’s unexpected 21-5 season in 2022 at least I thought it was unexpected and it also his first full season as a big leaguer.
Cardinals giving away Zac Gallen and Sandy Alcantara for a season of Marcell Ozuna comes to mind. Marcell wasnt bad by any means but they gave away the future at the top of their rotation
I always think of Bagwell as being a home grown Astro. I know he’s not, I know he’s not from the state, but he spent so long there that it feels like he was just born in Houston.
Starling Marte for Jesus Luzardo. Yeah, Marte was good in Oakland, but the A’s didn’t make the playoffs and went into rebuild mode that same offseason.
Luzardo meanwhile has become one of the games most electric young pitchers and still has a ton of control left
The Twins getting Joe Ryan was such a steal man
Is that MLB Power Pros2008 music I hear at the end?!
I think my hot take is that Grayson Rodriguez will be just as good as Burnes this year
Appreciate you repping the Orioles hat!
As a White Sox fan I've always hated the Jeff Samardzija trade in 2015. Gave up Marcus Semien and Chris Bassitt for one of Shark's worst seasons on a team that honestly wasn't that good in the first place.
Jolly Olive always dropping the best baseball content foreal keep it up
Thanks for this one, Jolly. ScarJo as Bob feels a bit generous, but the sentiment is there. God bless, man
As an Orioles fan, trading away Schilling, Pete Harnisch, and Steve Finley to Houston for Glenn Davis really hurt
Gotta love the woodland kingdom music in the background
How do you know when you’re running out of invisible ink?
Where the hell was the Beltran for Wheeler deal with SF and the Mets in 2011? That was one of the biggest busts ever for the Giants.
Love you on the JM channel and just stumbled onto your own channel. And now i hear Pokemon music in this video? Can you get any cooler?
5:56 the fact that this is a serious moment in a drama movie is crazy to me. No i have not seen it and i will not be seeing it any time soon. When im in the mood for a divorce movie i will watch Kramer vs Kramer. First things first u know
Although it wasn’t exactly a rental trade, the Twins only getting 9 starts out of Tyler Mahle while giving up CES and Steer is very bad
The music during the Bagwell segment sent me back holy shit I thought I was the only person who played that game. I even still play it occasionally.
Jolly Olive gang stand up.
Oh this can definitely get a part two. One recent one that comes to mind is Javy Baez to the Mets
Javy was good for the Mets and PCA hasn't gotten enough at bats to truly determine how good/bad the trade was
Not the MLB Power pros theme being used 😂
The sinoh lake music calms my energy. Thank you Jolly Olive.
Would love to see videos about the top most underrated players of each position from each decade
great vid brother
great video!
This channel is THE MOST underrated on UA-cam. There's no question about it.
Ole Jolly out here killin' it again
12:45 I am surprised that, that kinda ad existed in the 1980s
The thumbnail hurt my feelings but also one of the best trades I’ve ever seen despite it hurting my feelings.
To be fair... the Red Sox did give up a prospect named Carl Pavano and Tony Armas (Junior) to the Expos for some guy named Pedro Martinez (Jaime, not Aquino)... so... not all bad.
idk if this qualifies as a rental trade but i view it as one because i knew no way he would stay more than 2-3 years and he actually did ok but how about the braves trading for tex? braves ended up giving away neftali feliz who was easily one of the best closers in the league for years who i think would have lasted longer if the rangers didnt try screwing with him, elvis andrus a solid ss for years, and matt harrison who was a pretty solid back of the rotation guy for years as well
yeah the sox traded bagwell for almost nothing, but they had mo vaughn. i don't think they suffered as much as people think from this trade
THANK YOU! I'm an Astro fan and I hate the Red Sox, but c'mon, Bagwell might have never gotten to the majors in Boston. That was a sound trade - the Red Sox got what they needed and the Astros got a prospect. NO ONE knew what Bagwell would become. Don't get me wrong... I'm sure glad we got him, but we certainly didn't rip off anyone at the time. It's easy to look at something in hindsight and judge.
Do I hear the song used from Simpsons hit and run level 2 at 5:10? 😂 Amazing
That Adam Driver clip perfectly describes how Pirates fans feel about Bob Nutting 😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t think it’s fair to say the Cruz trade was bad. It made some sense since they didn’t have a legit power bat. Joe Ryan was also slightly blocked like you said with the pitching machine.
Tropicana Field probably didn't have a nap room for Cruz. Yes, he requires a nap room.
james shields rental for tatis has to be here right?
idk why but trade videos are always entertaining
Jeff Bagwell also got a Starter Player Name hat in 1994.
Larry Anderson is now one of the color commentators for the Phillies radio. He's hilarious!
As a Sox fan I can’t watch a single MLB video on UA-cam without being sad after
Have a feeling in the future you might be able to add the Mets getting Javy Baez for Pete Crow Armstrong.
I hope that turns to be a fleece. But we still got a little way to go to see. I know one thing. PCA is one of best defensive CF in the league already so if he can start producing some offense. It's definitely gonna be a fleece
I think Baez to the Mets has to be up there, too. PCA is gonna be a stud then throw in the thumbs down thing too, all for a season where they didn’t make the playoffs
As someone who grew up going to New Britain minor league games, I have a nitpick: the images at 14:44 are of the wrong stadium.
The New Britain Red Sox, which they were in 1990, played at Beehive Field. After the 1994 season, the Red Sox dropped their affiliation, the Twins picked it up, and the team became the Rock Cats; a year later, they moved next door (like, they share a parking lot) into New Britain Stadium, which is the field in the images at 14:44. (Those 16-foot outfield walls are unmistakable.)
Nerd!!!
@@SchmazerBeams I've never denied it!
@@limegreenelevator i just playin
@@SchmazerBeams no worries, all good
How about top ten close calls where teams backed out of the trade and turns out it was a good thing they did?
Larry Anderson is officially my favorite player of all time
How was the Javy Baez for PCA trade not in here
Because it’s one of the best rental trades of the past 5 years????
@@swisscheese6456 not really giving up that much for mid Javy
@@samssportsshoplol Báez had the best stretch of his career in his tenure with the Mets and trevor Williams was actually an unsung hero much of the season and a half he was a met. PCA hasn’t even recorded a major league hit yet. Sure I think he could be a potential gold glover and all star one day but let’s see him get a hit first.
The Yordan trade will haunt me till my dying day
1997 Heathcliff Slocumb for Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe