The worst thing about your Persona 5 waifu ? *gets close and whispers in your ear* She doesn't exist. And if she did, she would find you either creepy or boring.
@@MrAuthor3DS SPOILER (just in case) And don’t forget the hefty kill count, which, despite what the Thieves think, was done entirety of his own volition.
The worst part about Ann is that she has a really good build up in the first dungeon and she and ryuji pretty much become the comic relief after kamoshidas dungeon. I adore ann but they rly dont do much with her sadly
@@Kaisona2017 well, Ryuji still has the conflict with Mona during Okumura's palace (even though it's forced, doesn't make much sense and comes to the detriment of both characters) and he saves the gang during Shido's palace, but Ann kind of feels just there for the most part
@@floricel_112 Yes. I’m just saying it’s a shame that the early Phantom Thieves, and Haru don’t get much time in the spotlight after they first join. It’s mostly just Makoto, Futaba, and Morgana.
@@GiordanDiodato The design was apparently supposed to be for a strategist phantom thief, but since Makoto already filled the role, everything about that character was scrapped until they reused their design for Hifumi
@@BeeDub57 So? I’m making millions in Mementos. I can take care of him. … or I would if Altus would let me take him to all the food spots instead of just for ramen.
@@GiordanDiodato Yeah Proficiency was the first stat I maxed out. But due to the time it took me to do that, I could only get Haru to rank 2, on my first play through.
I like Makoto, but her friend is lowkey kind of stupid. Makoto: "Bruh, I got physical evidence that your 'bf' is cheating on you" Eiko: "...you're just trying to take him from me!"
@@dar_dar3655 I wonder if atlus was just trolling us with her social link. you need rank 3 knowledge and rank 4 charm to be allowed to join her social link that consists of dumb as a brick eiko and her weird as fuck looking bf
I agree that the fact you have to wait for 100 plus hours before you get to be with Kasumi is bullcrap. By the time she's your girlfriend you get no time with her. Now if you pick Ann you spend LITERALLY almost the entire game with her, Hawaii, Xmas, valentine's day, white day, a good bye scene, all of it!
@@GiordanDiodato I think that might be the first day you can. My point was more if that if you pick Ann or one of the other girls you get much more time with her. A lot more special days.
It really sucks, but interestingly enough it seems like at one point they may have considered making Kasumi’s romance happen earlier. Idk if you watch him but Faz uploaded a recent cool video about a cut rank 5 Kasumi confession, that could’ve allowed for Christmas and Hawaii dates. What could’ve been :(
The worst thing about Makoto is her confidant. Like. Of all the inane bullshit. The worst thing about Ann is that her being a sexual abuse survivor was immediately forgotten about after the Kamoshida palace and the game just turned it into a competition who could sexually harass her the most. And then her social link is all about how she, an underage sexual abuse survivor, needs to pose sexier on camera. Like. I can't even.
I know I'm literally a year late to this comment, but I actually think Ann being a model is really interesting! ... If the game's writing regarding her was competent enough to make it work. When I first started playing the game and saw the design of her Metaverse outfit and Carmen, I already had an idea of where her character arc might go: reclaiming her sexuality from abuse. The obvious BDSM inspiration for her latex suit plus the way Carmen had those lovestruck men on leashes made me think she was going to have a really interesting, not often explored character arc of a woman embracing her sexuality after having it be abused by a man in authority above her. Hence why her modeling would work too. She would want to feel attractive and be wanted, but on her own terms, i.e. only doing modeling gigs she wants to and is comfortable with. I even heard about how people were really upset with her being pressured into doing the nude modeling for Yusuke, then also heard about how Royal fixed some writing problems. So my thought was, "Great! If her character arc is going to play out like that, then a natural point of progression for it might be for her to agree to it from the get-go. It'd make sense too: a totally safe and artistic way for her to be nude. It'd make total sense for her arc!" And then I was sorely disappointed by how they fumbled it so terribly. In the actual game, her outfit is total fanservice, unrelated to a deeper desire other than a few throwaway lines of Mementos dialogue where party members comment on it perhaps being something she likes deep down. And her sexual abuse and other emotional trauma from the students constantly spreading rumors about her is completely forgotten and solved instantly, making perfect room for her to be constantly objectified! Seriously disappointed with how her character turned out.
@@GenericUser860 100% agree. Ive left several comments on social media alredy that echo your remarks. Yes, Ann had a great setup that could really go places. And then Atlus just dropped the ball on her. I guess it was to make her character more appealing to the mainstream. She is still by far my favorite P5 character.
I think the major problem with Makoto for me is the fact of how unfocused her Confidant is, as it's mostly about Joker and Makoto helping out Eiko rather than Makoto herself. There are a couple of things here and there on Makoto's personality and whatnot, but it's very brief. Her declaring to become a police commissioner to Joker, who was drugged, assaulted, and nearly killed by the police feels like character assassination (according to some people) on her especially. It's especially made worse by the fact of what kind of system Sae is seen to work under.
Akechi : 1. Why was he the only guy 2. I love him anyways 3. Here’s a reason... THE ANGST HURTS SO MUCH LIKE WATCH THE VIVI ONE OM- Edit : Wait why is Akechi a waif-nvm it’s bc of that one “ You’re back late “ thing which Japanese Wives say and they only accept it with a kiss.
Makoto’s romance is actually extremely cute, especially if you start dating her before the culture festival. Ann is cute but she seems like a best friend (aside from Ryuji). Wouldn’t turn her down though if she confessed. Futaba just...she’s adorable, but sister-zone. Haru is...Haru. Adorable! But that’s a lot of unintended trouble.
Out of them all Kawakami has the best benefit in the game especially after restarting with a cleared data file you get the night social links up faster thanks to her as it allows it when you gone dungeon crawling to level up in the day but Sai romancing her in p5 now so late in its no go haru was pushing it but royal yes that should of been an option with the extra month if it's that way for newly added Kasumi.
Except when she asks dumb questions. Oh so many of them. Though my favorite must be "Are we sinking?" as the ship tilts 45° and is filling with water in front of her eyes.
@@ViolosD2I I have to disagree. Her asking dumb questions is a reassurance that shit is happening in case you weren’t fully aware of it the first time. Also it gives you a perfect opening to respond in anyway, even if it has nothing to do with her or even answering her question.
Agree with everything that was said about kasumi. When Christmas first showed up I was going into it thinking I wouldn't have a romantic date with kasumi just a friendly one. But I got neither :(
@@adri._. Yea the perks suck, but hating on her is just another meme that ran out of control. What can I say? I like a girl that can handle her drinks.
Personally I think that the main problem is whenever you see her, she's drunk, and that's a little weird because you're a high schooler, but other than that she's not bad.
True. She’s hated on too much. She bored me in vanilla P5 but in P5R, I found her to be interesting to be around. I wouldn’t have her as my favorite by any stretch, and she’s still the “worst” of any P5(R) girl for me, but when you’re comparing an A tier waifu to SSS tier waifu, it’s hard not to notice the difference.
As a Sumire fan ... it is complete accurate. I can forgive the Christmas date since we get the wholesome Sojiro and Futaba family scene, but not getting a proper good buy really got to me.
The worst thing about Ann is you can complete her social link, be dating her, and then at the beach trip with futaba she acts like you’re just as clueless at understanding women as Ryuji and Yusuke
And Makoto too (Never dated her, but i know it happens too)... The thing i dislike about this game is, in the normal history events, the game pratically ignores that you have a girlfriend, like in the beggining of the game when your friends come for the first time to the cafe, and Sojiro asks Ann if she has a boyfriend, and she says she never had one! (I was dating her!) I dont know if they changed this in royal (Im sure they didnt), because i didnt play it yet, but it is necessary.
@@xxkalado True, which is something that could be summarily ignored if we wanted except the game sometimes DOESN’T ignore that you have girlfriend, AKA every time you complete another girl’s social link you’re reminded that you’re already in a relationship lol. It’s literally just to punish you for being a harem protagonist
@@blake8109 OVA stands for Original Video Animation. Its usually a special episode that comes out some time after an anime or the like. In this case, the Persona 5 animation. But yeah, he's right, I'm kinda salty XD
Crap i feel so stupid, i uploaded this and noticed a ton of glitches from rendering like right away and thought i privated it so nobody could watch it this whole time, only to find out its been public lmfao. I'm unsure why its glitching out during certain frames but for the most part everything came out fine. Hope you all enjoyed the video, will try to make sure that doesn't happen again. Also again thanks for the insane support, my 1k special (late I know) will be What Your Persona 4 Waifu Says About You, it'll be my video after the next. Also sorry for no uploads recently, I wrote the longest paper of my life for my college research class for my major but now that its done I finally have some time to make videos again, so as always, stay tuned! :)
I like how Hifumi's downside is that she didn't get the deserved treatment she got in the OVA which I'm personally considering canon because I love her so much. And Sae not being dateable is a literal sin.
actually her forehead is about average for the art style. I mean if Chihaya didn't have that ridiculous headband that made it look like she was in an 80s glam metal band, she'd probably have as big of a forehead.
While I could easily see Ann and Ryuji getting together, a boy and a girl having amazing chemistry doesn’t mean that they can’t just be amazing friends.
While those two have great chemistry, (most) of the romantic subtext are only there if you wanna see it that way. So it doesn't necessarily feel like cucking. Naoto and Kanji on the other hand-
First playthrough of vanilla P5 I saw Futaba as waifu material (still went for Makoto), then I played it again 2 years later with royal I was like nahhhh. Yeah the “little sister” vibes, and started seeing some of the “gamer girl” stuff did kick in. But that’s not what made me say “no” I thought about her hygiene... it’s gotta be nonexistent. Even after the palace it probably doesn’t exist unless somehow Sojiro forced her to shower, which I feel like wouldn’t be until after the phantom thieves disband.
I thought this was going to be one of those joke videos where the worst thing about your waifu was that they don't exist. Also 2:20 was my thoughts exactly when Royal came out and it STILL WASN'T POSSIBLE. I think the worst thing about that is that it was possible in the valentine's OVA.
I just love that KaSumi is worst thing is that you don't get more time with her... like, that's it, the worst thing about her is that you can't spend more time with her.
There's a bigger issue that I think people are missing here. (Royal spoilers) If you fell in love with Kasumi, you fell in love with someone that isn't real, that died before you ever "met" her. If you fell in love with Sumire, you fell in love you'd never seen before, someone you never actually met.
@@Technotoadnotafrog sumire fell in love with you from the start. it's just up to you if after rank 5 you also see her that way. there's no issue with that either because most of the romance stuff happens after 5 anyway.
@@Technotoadnotafrog The thing is, you get to know the real girl (Sumire) in her ranks 6-10, and even in her original five ranks you don't actually know Kasumi, but Sumire's interpretation of her sister, which makes some things of the real girl still appear (having bad reflexes, being a good cook, episodes of insecurity and depression, etc), so in a sense, if you date Sumire the game implies Joker never fell for "Kasumi".
And the part where she’s boring, and the part where she literally never shuts up about obvious bullshit, and the part where her social link is about a more interesting character.
I'd argue the same for Futaba though not nearly as much since she comes in towards the middle of the game...I just don't expect anyone to finish her confidant until Shido's palace.
Ann is actually waifu material with her hair down and it's worth the price of admission to play the dancing game just to see her like that. It's the only game where she has her hair down.
I'd have to disagree, though it's probably more because of familiarity than anything. Plus I want my rhythm game to have good songs and while the originals are as good as always, every remix aside from Rivers in the Desert and Blooming Villain are average at best, though the third best is Beneath The Mask because future bass is cool.
@@PanzerLord I mean, what about rhythm games? Not all rhythm games have dancing in them. For example I was really into Guitar Hero and Rock Band back in the day.
Haru: (my favorite) Yes, you caught me. I was expecting a screentime joke, but now what you mention the outfit thing...you're right. Everyone Else: now that you mention it...you're right. (doubly so on Hifumi, I legit didn't know that was a thing and now I'm annoyed) Makoto: only time I'll disagree. Worst part about her is the way her fans will sweep her flaws and writing issues under the rug and fight anyone who tries to bring them up.
I actually really enjoyed the Romance System in the game, though I wished there was a bit more focus, scenes and possibilities in it (would a few dates and a goodbye kiss at the end to much too ask for, for all of the "Waifus"?). Anyway... Persona 5 is still a MASTERPIECE for me, not the best game I ever played, but goddamn we need more quality like this in todays games! Favourite Waifu's are (in order) Hifumi, Makoto and Ann :D
The fact that your right about Ann being cuter in the dancing game with her hair down. Like when I started playing and got that accessory unlocked, I was like Jesus Christ your hot with hair down. Same could be said for haru with her ponytail
Yeah i played royal twice and romanced kasumi twice just because god shes adorable and i couldnt choose anyone else, it was painful on christmas and at hawaii, though i think i remember sharing hawaii with makoto once
I've always liked Hifumi but that swimming scene was awesome and really raised her in opinion, since she seems be much cooler than she is in-game. Makoto is still best girl, though her section was painfully accurate and hilarious. Haru is a close 2nd though
I was surprised to not see that the worst thing about Kawakami, Takemi and Ohya is that they're LITERAL ADULTS dating a minor. Like they're all at least 25 and joker is 16-17, plus Kawakami is joker's teacher which sets a weird dynamic (which is too bad because her confidant is so helpful she's a game changer)
The worst thing about Makoto is the date in which you have to step forward to protect her. I really had love see her beating the crap of that guy... And I know se could for sure.
Up to Makoto being introduced I was going back and forth on all the candidates, but as soon as her arc came around it was obvious that she was the right choice. She kept saying what I was thinking and that was pretty weird for a fictional person
- "The Worst thing about Kawakami is her whole Becky persona." *Knives out* - "Ohya is an underrated waifu and a cool character all around" *Knives in* We cool now. You cool now.
That Sae point hurts man. Im like "Oh Boy P5 R is coming. Wait new member??? Does that mean we finally get new confidants like in P3P???? SAE TIME BOYS! Release day comes No sign of Sae in trailers?wut? Maybe in game? No... My disappointment is immeasureable and my year is ruined. Damn ye 2020
0:23 can I be absolutely honest? I agree with this. I prefer her normal Teacher personality than Becky and the... Not so kawaii anime cheeky smile. Damn
@@kaelanmcalpine2011 Morgana ain't that bad, I don't know why people hate him. Teddie from P4 tho, now he deserves a foot to the face for being annoying af lol
@@Syakirin57 I think the primary reasons are he's just a really bratty and standoffish cat and also taking what should be Haru's arc away from her in the Okumura palace. I personally don't mind as much as most people do but I'll argue day and night that Teddie is good because I think he's funny as hell...except for that one time he sounds like he wants to fuck Nanako at the Amagi Inn.
@@kaelanmcalpine2011 oh god, I can't stand that bear, I just wanted to shove him back into the tv world and leave him there for eternity if I could 😂. Morgana actually helping the team with his insights and knowledge so I can respect that.
I actually remember one singular skill from Ohya because its her first confidant rank skill that you need to get to take a Mementos request from Lala, and thats the one that lowers the Security Levele every time you enter a safe room, which actually sucked. The one confidant I couldn't remember any skills from is Mona
@BrTrueV True, I didn't like her at first either. But she improves with time and is pretty much the strongest confidant in the game considering she can make the others level up faster.
I know the part about Chihaya's "onlyfans" fee of 100,000 yen was a joke, but she gives you the money back in the same event in which you can get into a relationship with her. Basically, she's giving you a free shot at getting into a relationship with her.
I romanced Ann and honestly the only thing I hated about it is that you need to watch half the characters constantly drool over her. There were some points during the game *(I'm looking at you, school fair)* where I REALLY hoped there would be a kokuhaku option so everyone will finally stop hitting on my character's girlfriend. Hold up *THERE'S A COSTUME WITH HER HAIR DOWN!?*
The worst thing about your Persona 5 waifu ? *gets close and whispers in your ear* She doesn't exist. And if she did, she would find you either creepy or boring.
I may have played Persona 4 and fought for the truth, but this truth hurts 😭😭
Why are you bringing reality in this, let me dream.
Reality is often disappointing
i feel personally attacked
That's a nice reason to accept Maruki's reality
“How can I list only one thing?”
*triggered pancake noises*
Oof, why's he gotta roast Pancake-kun like that?
he said that because he didn't want to admit having no reasons at all
@@kyewikeley You mean besides his severe emotional and mental damage?
@@MrAuthor3DS SPOILER (just in case)
And don’t forget the hefty kill count, which, despite what the Thieves think, was done entirety of his own volition.
@@MrAuthor3DS That is literally what makes him the best waifu. Well and the third semester.
Atlus, why couldn't we have a costume that has Ann with her hair down in Royal?
*THIS!*
Right but at least we have it in Dancing in starlight 😭
As someone who really likes ann, that infuriates me
Because don't you know?!
Dancing in Starlight is the main P5 game!!
@@Marin_Karin that’s like saying expansion packs are the main game.
The worst part about Ann is that she has a really good build up in the first dungeon and she and ryuji pretty much become the comic relief after kamoshidas dungeon. I adore ann but they rly dont do much with her sadly
They play an active role in Mararame’s Palace. It’s after Makoto joins, that they get shafted to comic reliefs.
@@Kaisona2017 well, Ryuji still has the conflict with Mona during Okumura's palace (even though it's forced, doesn't make much sense and comes to the detriment of both characters) and he saves the gang during Shido's palace, but Ann kind of feels just there for the most part
@@floricel_112 Other than that, Ryuji doesn’t do much. Not to mention Yusuke.
@@Kaisona2017 well isn't that what the social links are for?
@@floricel_112 Yes. I’m just saying it’s a shame that the early Phantom Thieves, and Haru don’t get much time in the spotlight after they first join. It’s mostly just Makoto, Futaba, and Morgana.
The worst thing about Makoto is that "Beep boop" is not the correct answer in her later event...
That sent me laughing for 2 minutes straight, it was the only choice
How could it possibly have been wrong? I swear, either Joker sounds like a total dweeb IRL or these Japanese girls have a stick up their rear.
And fist of justice :(
NGL, I know it didn't help me with confidant points, I still did Beep Boop
I Did pick fist of justice and beep boop, like a real chad.
a petition to make Sae romanceable so that we could date both Niijima sisters and see the chaos unfold in February
It wouldn’t just be chaos… it’d be a massacre 😬
A Valentine's Day Massacre XD
@@HeavenlyM She'd go from having an infiltrated palace and stealing her heart, to having an infiltrated palace and stealing her heart
Game just ends 2/15 in a hospital bed
@@wyattsunkel1048 : prison hospital bed
Ah yes. Where is Yusuke.
Too good of a Waifu nothing bad about him
Same for everyone else not in this video
@@Ewremen outside his mouse puns.
He has no flaws
I should’ve mentioned the mouse puns. Damn.
@@HeavenlyM I don’t think you should, that would have been prepawsterous!
Nah, worst part about Hifumi is that she isn’t a Phantom Thief
After hearing the original plans for her was to be one and then she still wasn't in Royal hurt.
The character wasnt planned to be a phantom thief, her *design* was
yeah I can't see it...
@@casuallectures2655 was she a beta design for one of the Phantom Thieves? Kinda like how Fuuka was supposed to look like Chihiro?
@@GiordanDiodato The design was apparently supposed to be for a strategist phantom thief, but since Makoto already filled the role, everything about that character was scrapped until they reused their design for Hifumi
This video proves that there is no bad thing about Yusuke. He is truly perfect.
He broke tho
He’s bad at money management.
Being voiced by levi and joatro helps
@@BeeDub57 So? I’m making millions in Mementos. I can take care of him.
… or I would if Altus would let me take him to all the food spots instead of just for ramen.
This is fact
being Ann fan I’m happy we took a dub
Proud of you guys 👏🏼👏🏼🥳
I wasn't a huge Ann fan until the last confidant rank happened, then my heart totally melted. How could I turn her away? That was so emotional.
A fAnn... get it??
Ok... I'll see myself out...
we half won boys
@@jessielsanchez5079 que the sad trumpets from the price is right.
"Becky is the worst part about her."
Us Kawakami fans know, but that doesn't mean you should say it.
Speak for yourself, buster. If I’m gonna fall in love with a fake high school teacher, then I’m gonna get weird with it.
Atlus knows too
"That's the best part" more than makes up for it.
11/11/2020 Still waiting for Chihaya to give me her only fans
We can’t lose hope, if we’re patient someday we’ll get it 😢
Did she at least give you a refund?
@@reaperofthings yeah you get a refund at her rank 8 or 9, which is cool
Ryuji isn’t here because Ryuji does nothing wrong :)
Yes
Except for when he shouts about the Phantom Thieves.
@@Kaisona2017 for real
@@Kaisona2017 Even that in the end worked for the best. Without his loud mouth, Makoto wouldn't never joined!
@@Kaisona2017 he's just excited 😢😢
akechi: *he tries to kill you*
Definition of "psycho ex/stalker"
Eh, I’ll let him get a free pass.
That's the best part
The video is "the worst thing about your P5 Waifu", not "the best thing about your P5 Waifu."
Thats part of the fun tho
The fact that the only negative to Haru is that you don't get to see her cute outfit made me laugh.
Haru and Ann ftw
true true
Her biggest flaw, is that most people don’t do her confidant, due to it requiring Max Proficiency to even start.
@@Kaisona2017 but if you kept making items for infiltration, it shouldn't be that difficult. Hell that was the first sub-stat I maxed out
@@GiordanDiodato Yeah Proficiency was the first stat I maxed out. But due to the time it took me to do that, I could only get Haru to rank 2, on my first play through.
@@Kaisona2017 Dang, I maxed proficiency out prior to even getting to Madarame, also maxed out Ryuji too.
Okay but hear me out:
Imagine Haru's forehead touching your forehead ;(
cursed
HEAVEN
This remind me of girlfriend I never have
her forehead isn't actually that big
@@GiordanDiodato lies
Maruki would have given us a world where we could date Sae. we have to go back
You’re so right, now that you mention it maybe his reality isn’t that bad of an idea after all 🤔
He’s also going to make it so the Dark Hour, and by extension Persona 3 never happened.
He bloody did. In a cut event.
@@Kaisona2017 We'll see soon. I bet that actually happened and it wasn't coincidential.
unironically the best pro-maruki argument i've heard
"the worst thing about Haru is that we don't get to see her 2 best outfits for most of the game"
or her, for that matter.
The fact that you can’t romance Sae
A modern day tragedy
except in the OVA
Yeah shame but I don’t know how they could have made it work on the narrative since her confidant maxes out automatically
@@user-nn5dh3cs9s plus, y'know, she expects perfection. At least according to Makoto
@Tyler Davis pfft makoto is easily the best waifu
Let's be real: worst thing about Makoto is that her S.Link is all about her simpleton friend.
She's just really colourful cardboard
I like Makoto, but her friend is lowkey kind of stupid.
Makoto: "Bruh, I got physical evidence that your 'bf' is cheating on you"
Eiko: "...you're just trying to take him from me!"
Thats why the only thing i liked about makoto is that she hits really hard with that nuke skill.
@@dar_dar3655 I wonder if atlus was just trolling us with her social link. you need rank 3 knowledge and rank 4 charm to be allowed to join her social link that consists of dumb as a brick eiko and her weird as fuck looking bf
She's an insecure teen, they do dumb shit. I am sure you were just as dumb as one - or are one if you are still one.
I agree that the fact you have to wait for 100 plus hours before you get to be with Kasumi is bullcrap. By the time she's your girlfriend you get no time with her.
Now if you pick Ann you spend LITERALLY almost the entire game with her, Hawaii, Xmas, valentine's day, white day, a good bye scene, all of it!
but... can't you spend Valentine's with Kasumi?
@@GiordanDiodato I think that might be the first day you can. My point was more if that if you pick Ann or one of the other girls you get much more time with her. A lot more special days.
It really sucks, but interestingly enough it seems like at one point they may have considered making Kasumi’s romance happen earlier. Idk if you watch him but Faz uploaded a recent cool video about a cut rank 5 Kasumi confession, that could’ve allowed for Christmas and Hawaii dates. What could’ve been :(
@@HeavenlyM I'll have to check that out.
Well if you rank up Makoto to rank 5(which is before the charm barrier I'm pretty sure) you can spend hawaii too so
The worst thing about Makoto is her confidant. Like. Of all the inane bullshit. The worst thing about Ann is that her being a sexual abuse survivor was immediately forgotten about after the Kamoshida palace and the game just turned it into a competition who could sexually harass her the most. And then her social link is all about how she, an underage sexual abuse survivor, needs to pose sexier on camera. Like. I can't even.
I know I'm literally a year late to this comment, but I actually think Ann being a model is really interesting!
...
If the game's writing regarding her was competent enough to make it work. When I first started playing the game and saw the design of her Metaverse outfit and Carmen, I already had an idea of where her character arc might go: reclaiming her sexuality from abuse. The obvious BDSM inspiration for her latex suit plus the way Carmen had those lovestruck men on leashes made me think she was going to have a really interesting, not often explored character arc of a woman embracing her sexuality after having it be abused by a man in authority above her. Hence why her modeling would work too. She would want to feel attractive and be wanted, but on her own terms, i.e. only doing modeling gigs she wants to and is comfortable with.
I even heard about how people were really upset with her being pressured into doing the nude modeling for Yusuke, then also heard about how Royal fixed some writing problems. So my thought was, "Great! If her character arc is going to play out like that, then a natural point of progression for it might be for her to agree to it from the get-go. It'd make sense too: a totally safe and artistic way for her to be nude. It'd make total sense for her arc!" And then I was sorely disappointed by how they fumbled it so terribly.
In the actual game, her outfit is total fanservice, unrelated to a deeper desire other than a few throwaway lines of Mementos dialogue where party members comment on it perhaps being something she likes deep down. And her sexual abuse and other emotional trauma from the students constantly spreading rumors about her is completely forgotten and solved instantly, making perfect room for her to be constantly objectified!
Seriously disappointed with how her character turned out.
@@GenericUser860 100% agree. Ive left several comments on social media alredy that echo your remarks. Yes, Ann had a great setup that could really go places. And then Atlus just dropped the ball on her. I guess it was to make her character more appealing to the mainstream. She is still by far my favorite P5 character.
@@GenericUser860 i mean its not like the other persona characters are being explored either.
@@GenericUser860 Honestly, I think a lot of her “sexy” scenes are with her consent, or she’s flaunting.
I think the major problem with Makoto for me is the fact of how unfocused her Confidant is, as it's mostly about Joker and Makoto helping out Eiko rather than Makoto herself. There are a couple of things here and there on Makoto's personality and whatnot, but it's very brief. Her declaring to become a police commissioner to Joker, who was drugged, assaulted, and nearly killed by the police feels like character assassination (according to some people) on her especially. It's especially made worse by the fact of what kind of system Sae is seen to work under.
Damn I never saw my sweet Ann, with her hair down before, you’re right, she does look much better that way.
nothing in Royal, which is stupid
They say Morgana is still to this day trying to steal Sojiro's credit card to purchase Ann's Only Fans.
with his looks in 3rd semester, he wouldn't need to steal sojiro's credit card
Akechi :
1. Why was he the only guy
2. I love him anyways
3. Here’s a reason... THE ANGST HURTS SO MUCH LIKE WATCH THE VIVI ONE OM-
Edit : Wait why is Akechi a waif-nvm it’s bc of that one “ You’re back late “ thing which Japanese Wives say and they only accept it with a kiss.
Vivi hurts me and it feels good
also three words: ROBBIE FUCKING DAYMOND.
akechi was the only guy bc every other guy is perfect uwu
I'm fucking flawless
@@gangles1505 The Vivi Akeshu Animatic cause that was P A I N
Makoto’s romance is actually extremely cute, especially if you start dating her before the culture festival.
Ann is cute but she seems like a best friend (aside from Ryuji). Wouldn’t turn her down though if she confessed.
Futaba just...she’s adorable, but sister-zone.
Haru is...Haru. Adorable! But that’s a lot of unintended trouble.
Yep, lotsa repressed anger in that adorable form... Makoto looks sharp but Haru might downright just stab you.
As a huge Kawakami fan. I wasn't even into the whole maid aspect. I liked the story around it though and everything else with her makes my heart melt.
Good grades, clean house, free massages. The only one who can give you more is haru because she’s rich
Out of them all Kawakami has the best benefit in the game especially after restarting with a cleared data file you get the night social links up faster thanks to her as it allows it when you gone dungeon crawling to level up in the day but Sai romancing her in p5 now so late in its no go haru was pushing it but royal yes that should of been an option with the extra month if it's that way for newly added Kasumi.
The worst thing about Haru is
Her dad's Palace.
Her big ass Forehead
True.
I mean, the palace is good. And the music is banging.
But HOLY SHIT THE FINAL BOSS IS SUCH A TRASH LIKE WHAT THE FUCK
Respect for realizing Ann is perfect.
She left you for oveeseas OnlyFans
Except when she asks dumb questions. Oh so many of them.
Though my favorite must be "Are we sinking?" as the ship tilts 45° and is filling with water in front of her eyes.
@@ViolosD2I I have to disagree. Her asking dumb questions is a reassurance that shit is happening in case you weren’t fully aware of it the first time.
Also it gives you a perfect opening to respond in anyway, even if it has nothing to do with her or even answering her question.
Ann is annoying..
Agree with everything that was said about kasumi. When Christmas first showed up I was going into it thinking I wouldn't have a romantic date with kasumi just a friendly one. But I got neither :(
Ohya is super underrated, this guy knows whats up.
@@adri._. Yea the perks suck, but hating on her is just another meme that ran out of control. What can I say? I like a girl that can handle her drinks.
@@adri._. I know someone who hated her because she had a bowlcut. No joke.
Like bro, Chie has a bowlcut and is popular af in the Western community
Personally I think that the main problem is whenever you see her, she's drunk, and that's a little weird because you're a high schooler, but other than that she's not bad.
@@romanfischer7307 Fair point, but as someone that's not in high school anymore, I appreciated some options that weren't high schoolers.
True. She’s hated on too much. She bored me in vanilla P5 but in P5R, I found her to be interesting to be around. I wouldn’t have her as my favorite by any stretch, and she’s still the “worst” of any P5(R) girl for me, but when you’re comparing an A tier waifu to SSS tier waifu, it’s hard not to notice the difference.
As a Sumire fan ... it is complete accurate. I can forgive the Christmas date since we get the wholesome Sojiro and Futaba family scene, but not getting a proper good buy really got to me.
As an Akechi and Ann fan I came to say....you're not wrong,you're not wrong at all.
Btw,today is Ann's birthday!!
ann is annoying, her personality is just "be beautiful"
@@daisuke0chida I don't agree,but you do you,buddy 👍
The worst thing about Ann is you can complete her social link, be dating her, and then at the beach trip with futaba she acts like you’re just as clueless at understanding women as Ryuji and Yusuke
And Makoto too (Never dated her, but i know it happens too)...
The thing i dislike about this game is, in the normal history events, the game pratically ignores that you have a girlfriend, like in the beggining of the game when your friends come for the first time to the cafe, and Sojiro asks Ann if she has a boyfriend, and she says she never had one! (I was dating her!)
I dont know if they changed this in royal (Im sure they didnt), because i didnt play it yet, but it is necessary.
@@xxkalado True, which is something that could be summarily ignored if we wanted except the game sometimes DOESN’T ignore that you have girlfriend, AKA every time you complete another girl’s social link you’re reminded that you’re already in a relationship lol. It’s literally just to punish you for being a harem protagonist
@@xxkalado probably cause canonically, Joker chooses Akechi
@@GiordanDiodato True! XD.
Finished Royal today, and as i expected, the game still ignores that you have a gf!
Both Ann and Makoto can be dated before they meet Sojiro and they will say you're just friends when he asks
Am I the only one attracted by Futaba's overwhelming enthusiasm and curiosity more than her otaku lifestyle?
I didn't even know there was a valentines OVA, wtf? Time to go watch it.
It’s pretty cute, definitely worth the watch imo
Especially the one with the takemi 😏
there's even something special for Sae fans
Where do I watch it ? Or what is the name ?
Persona 5 valentine’s Day OVA
- 1:15 In the OVA, you go swimming with Hifumi on Valentine's Day
Me: *YOU WHAT??!*
Idek what the OVA is
@@blake8109 OVA stands for Original Video Animation. Its usually a special episode that comes out some time after an anime or the like. In this case, the Persona 5 animation. But yeah, he's right, I'm kinda salty XD
also Sae fans are salty with the OVA
Also, she looks way more mature in the OVA than in the game. Mmmmmmm...
"The worst thing about your Persona 5 waifu"
Me: "None of them are real *sobs into his porridge*"
Crap i feel so stupid, i uploaded this and noticed a ton of glitches from rendering like right away and thought i privated it so nobody could watch it this whole time, only to find out its been public lmfao. I'm unsure why its glitching out during certain frames but for the most part everything came out fine. Hope you all enjoyed the video, will try to make sure that doesn't happen again.
Also again thanks for the insane support, my 1k special (late I know) will be What Your Persona 4 Waifu Says About You, it'll be my video after the next. Also sorry for no uploads recently, I wrote the longest paper of my life for my college research class for my major but now that its done I finally have some time to make videos again, so as always, stay tuned! :)
idk if im stupid or something but i didn't noticed any XD
@@zzzz4981 yeah its not too big, its just during random transitions you might see a glitch in like the corner, nothing too bad thankfully :)
I love how we all collectively agree that akechi is a waifu even if you can’t actually romance him xD
The worst thing about my waifu is that I can't date him.
I like how Hifumi's downside is that she didn't get the deserved treatment she got in the OVA which I'm personally considering canon because I love her so much. And Sae not being dateable is a literal sin.
Sae's social link levels up automatically so it'd be really tricky to make her romanceable
Me and Haru are the best match:
We both have big foreheads
actually her forehead is about average for the art style.
I mean if Chihaya didn't have that ridiculous headband that made it look like she was in an 80s glam metal band, she'd probably have as big of a forehead.
Thanks for the heads up and fore warning us
Same. I mean, just look at the pfp.
Soejima style 101: Big forehead and long boi neck.
Jokes aside, the man is a great artist.
Same also the puffy hair :)
Worst thing of them all: they beat you up during valentines
because you're a dirty cheater
Some of us choice the best options.
The hardest choices require the strongest wills
Or as I like to call it: Prepare to be castrated route.
Ann - her and Ryuji have a great chemistry together, so dating her would feel like betraying your best bro.
Well, Ryuji dont like Ann that way, neither do Ann!
I will always do Ann romance, because Ren and Ann fells right, dont know how to describe it!
While I could easily see Ann and Ryuji getting together, a boy and a girl having amazing chemistry doesn’t mean that they can’t just be amazing friends.
While those two have great chemistry, (most) of the romantic subtext are only there if you wanna see it that way. So it doesn't necessarily feel like cucking. Naoto and Kanji on the other hand-
I tried to betray anne and steal her man but the game wouldn't let me 😔
funny how Erika Harlacher (Ann's actress) actually ships them
*Shows Akechi*
Me:There's literally nothing you-
"How can I pick just one thing?"
Me:*SOBBING*
Honestly good question, Akechi is egoistical, inconsiderate, treacherous, a liyier, killer. I mean how can you pick one thing.
@@Benjamin-ml7sv Add on 'too married to the job'
@@Benjamin-ml7sv isn't he so precious❤
Why no quote the biggest problem: despite talking like couples, they do not act like it
Well if this thing was real they could tell you that you are too much sweet or too much a nice guy... So keep the distance LoL
First playthrough of vanilla P5 I saw Futaba as waifu material (still went for Makoto), then I played it again 2 years later with royal I was like nahhhh.
Yeah the “little sister” vibes, and started seeing some of the “gamer girl” stuff did kick in. But that’s not what made me say “no”
I thought about her hygiene... it’s gotta be nonexistent. Even after the palace it probably doesn’t exist unless somehow Sojiro forced her to shower, which I feel like wouldn’t be until after the phantom thieves disband.
I thought this was going to be one of those joke videos where the worst thing about your waifu was that they don't exist.
Also 2:20 was my thoughts exactly when Royal came out and it STILL WASN'T POSSIBLE. I think the worst thing about that is that it was possible in the valentine's OVA.
I just love that KaSumi is worst thing is that you don't get more time with her... like, that's it, the worst thing about her is that you can't spend more time with her.
There's a bigger issue that I think people are missing here. (Royal spoilers)
If you fell in love with Kasumi, you fell in love with someone that isn't real, that died before you ever "met" her. If you fell in love with Sumire, you fell in love you'd never seen before, someone you never actually met.
@@Technotoadnotafrog I mean, they’re the same person…
@@Technotoadnotafrog sumire fell in love with you from the start. it's just up to you if after rank 5 you also see her that way. there's no issue with that either because most of the romance stuff happens after 5 anyway.
@@Technotoadnotafrog The thing is, you get to know the real girl (Sumire) in her ranks 6-10, and even in her original five ranks you don't actually know Kasumi, but Sumire's interpretation of her sister, which makes some things of the real girl still appear (having bad reflexes, being a good cook, episodes of insecurity and depression, etc), so in a sense, if you date Sumire the game implies Joker never fell for "Kasumi".
That's literally my favroite part about her. 1:48
Makoto's biggest problem is she's a narc whose big realization is she wants to be a cop smh
Makoto's biggest problem is you and you not getting delivered justice.
And the part where she’s boring, and the part where she literally never shuts up about obvious bullshit, and the part where her social link is about a more interesting character.
U s e l e s s ? ! ? ! ? !
@@timjennings4342 she has one of the best personalities mind u
@@goatreaper4363 except for literally every other phantom thief, and most other confidants, sure.
Let's see what you say about Futaba and Sumire...
Edit: Geez, Heavenly, I came here to laugh, not cry. Why you do this to me?
We deserved a Kasumire Hawaii date, I had to bring up this injustice! im sorry :(
HeavenlyM Dont forget Futaba made you waste a whole week because of her lack of interaction, that really annoyed me.
@@pastyIe don’t forget her month long nap if you finish her palace early too 😂
HeavenlyM I forgot you can put her in a coma if you complete her palace day one🥶
The fact that he couldn’t find an actual problem with Ann shows that she’s best girl.
To be fair to makoto she doesnt say you dont look good enough its because eiko sees your picture and doesnt think you do
Dating Sumi requires a test of patience, but it’s so worth it in the end.
I'd argue the same for Futaba though not nearly as much since she comes in towards the middle of the game...I just don't expect anyone to finish her confidant until Shido's palace.
Ann is actually waifu material with her hair down and it's worth the price of admission to play the dancing game just to see her like that.
It's the only game where she has her hair down.
Yup.
Also Haru with her hair up is cute, too.
I refuse, even at gunpoint, to play a dancing game
I'd have to disagree, though it's probably more because of familiarity than anything. Plus I want my rhythm game to have good songs and while the originals are as good as always, every remix aside from Rivers in the Desert and Blooming Villain are average at best, though the third best is Beneath The Mask because future bass is cool.
@@PanzerLord I mean, what about rhythm games? Not all rhythm games have dancing in them. For example I was really into Guitar Hero and Rock Band back in the day.
Can use her dancing starlight costume to do the same effect now in game
Haru: (my favorite) Yes, you caught me. I was expecting a screentime joke, but now what you mention the outfit thing...you're right.
Everyone Else: now that you mention it...you're right.
(doubly so on Hifumi, I legit didn't know that was a thing and now I'm annoyed)
Makoto: only time I'll disagree. Worst part about her is the way her fans will sweep her flaws and writing issues under the rug and fight anyone who tries to bring them up.
I fully agree with everything here
The Kasumi one is so spot on. I actually like her a lot but didn't romance her yet because of this.
youll regret friend-zoning her. its awkward and sad
@@carlos.cr.7139 was indeed quite awkward. Same with Haru and even Futaba tbh
@@MMT399561 haru gets do sad you have to leave 😭. Mmm I thought futaba took it well
Obviously Ryuji isn't on here because he's perfect the way he is
I actually really enjoyed the Romance System in the game, though I wished there was a bit more focus, scenes and possibilities in it (would a few dates and a goodbye kiss at the end to much too ask for, for all of the "Waifus"?). Anyway... Persona 5 is still a MASTERPIECE for me, not the best game I ever played, but goddamn we need more quality like this in todays games! Favourite Waifu's are (in order) Hifumi, Makoto and Ann :D
1:50 To be fair my friends have told me I talk just like Futaba.
The fact that your right about Ann being cuter in the dancing game with her hair down. Like when I started playing and got that accessory unlocked, I was like Jesus Christ your hot with hair down. Same could be said for haru with her ponytail
1:55 I don’t know why but the thug life shades on Futaba with half of her right eye exposed makes it look cool LMAO
Yeah i played royal twice and romanced kasumi twice just because god shes adorable and i couldnt choose anyone else, it was painful on christmas and at hawaii, though i think i remember sharing hawaii with makoto once
Worst part about Futaba is….she’s a literal gremlin (almost like Stitch)!!
So Ann is the perfect wifu, good
(puts dagger away )
How could you say that if haru exists
Derrick Hector I’d rather take twintails over forehead, but I like Haru the second most anyways.
@@pastyIe 😟😟😟🤨 but its your overall preference and u said haru is your second fav so i guess its not too bad
@@kingsxvxntsxl who? (saids sarcasticly)
@@crescentshroud7264 ah
I've always liked Hifumi but that swimming scene was awesome and really raised her in opinion, since she seems be much cooler than she is in-game. Makoto is still best girl, though her section was painfully accurate and hilarious. Haru is a close 2nd though
I was surprised to not see that the worst thing about Kawakami, Takemi and Ohya is that they're LITERAL ADULTS dating a minor. Like they're all at least 25 and joker is 16-17, plus Kawakami is joker's teacher which sets a weird dynamic (which is too bad because her confidant is so helpful she's a game changer)
Chihaya is an adult too
Large age gaps between partners aren’t that uncommon in life. Also Joker would be the minimum age of consent in Japan anyway.
1:08 but since Chihaya eventually gives me my money, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with her and she's therefore perfect
You make a good point, I do love Chihaya so you do make a good point 🤔 🤔
Jokers frowning face looks like a moustache
When I drew the frown on him I thought this too lol
I agree. The line was rather thick and it looked like a thin black mustache.
2:21 You forgot to mentioned about Her OVA valentine.
I honestly don't see the price of SP adhesives being that bad of a thing. What's so wrong about a girl trying to make rent?
Yeah it honestly isn’t even that bad, I just couldn’t think of anything else for Takemi
So
The absence of Yusuke on this video implies that he's the perfect boi?
precisely
Ryuji :Eyes:
He had no flaws so he got left out lol
*FOR REAL?!*
0:31 I agree with you, first time I saw it, i said: DO NOT make that face again, it's so creepy
The worst thing about Makoto is the date in which you have to step forward to protect her.
I really had love see her beating the crap of that guy... And I know se could for sure.
As a chihaya simp. I aint too mad if that’s the worst thing about her
Up to Makoto being introduced I was going back and forth on all the candidates, but as soon as her arc came around it was obvious that she was the right choice. She kept saying what I was thinking and that was pretty weird for a fictional person
The worst part of Ann is Morgana weird obsession with her. How can I sleep in the same room with him after getting on with her?
That’s more Morgana then Ann.
- "The Worst thing about Kawakami is her whole Becky persona."
*Knives out*
- "Ohya is an underrated waifu and a cool character all around"
*Knives in* We cool now. You cool now.
Ann with her hair down is actually a blessing... Damn u atlusss whyyyy
That Sae point hurts man. Im like "Oh Boy P5 R is coming. Wait new member??? Does that mean we finally get new confidants like in P3P????
SAE TIME BOYS!
Release day comes
No sign of Sae in trailers?wut?
Maybe in game? No...
My disappointment is immeasureable and my year is ruined. Damn ye 2020
at least the OVA has a date with Joker
Been playing through the game for the first time on Xbox and Kasumi is too cute I can't
Worst part about Takemi is that you can't ask her to step on you
WHY ATLUS!? WHY COULDN’T YOU GIVE US OUR LAWYER WAIFU-
0:23 can I be absolutely honest? I agree with this. I prefer her normal Teacher personality than Becky and the... Not so kawaii anime cheeky smile. Damn
I’ve never been more proud to be an Ann fan than I am now
If you chooses Ann, you have broken the brocode with Mona.
Facts
I mean, considering it's Morgana we're talking about, you think any sane person would give a shit?
@@kaelanmcalpine2011 Morgana ain't that bad, I don't know why people hate him. Teddie from P4 tho, now he deserves a foot to the face for being annoying af lol
@@Syakirin57 I think the primary reasons are he's just a really bratty and standoffish cat and also taking what should be Haru's arc away from her in the Okumura palace. I personally don't mind as much as most people do but I'll argue day and night that Teddie is good because I think he's funny as hell...except for that one time he sounds like he wants to fuck Nanako at the Amagi Inn.
@@kaelanmcalpine2011 oh god, I can't stand that bear, I just wanted to shove him back into the tv world and leave him there for eternity if I could 😂. Morgana actually helping the team with his insights and knowledge so I can respect that.
You’re right, after I found out about the pool date with Hifumi not being in game I’m mad
I actually remember one singular skill from Ohya because its her first confidant rank skill that you need to get to take a Mementos request from Lala, and thats the one that lowers the Security Levele every time you enter a safe room, which actually sucked. The one confidant I couldn't remember any skills from is Mona
@BrTrueV oh yeah. Thanks
I'll be that guy and point out that Chihaya gives your 100k back later on.
That's if you rank her confidant high enough
@BrTrueV Yes, but it's still nice that she was honest.
@BrTrueV True, I didn't like her at first either. But she improves with time and is pretty much the strongest confidant in the game considering she can make the others level up faster.
ryuji is obviously not here because he is perfect
I cannot beLIEVE you would just throw shade at Akechi like that and then move right along. "How could I pick just one thing," he says.
I know the part about Chihaya's "onlyfans" fee of 100,000 yen was a joke, but she gives you the money back in the same event in which you can get into a relationship with her. Basically, she's giving you a free shot at getting into a relationship with her.
Everytime the maids in the game refer to you as "master" I cringe and a bit of my soul dies
Ann is my waifu and my best girl. I feel vindicated
The worst part about Igor being your waifu is how few times you have a real nivlce meeting with him in the game
Im glad im not the only one who thinks Ann looks better with her hair down and that its a crime we dont get an outfit in the main game to see it
I romanced Ann and honestly the only thing I hated about it is that you need to watch half the characters constantly drool over her. There were some points during the game *(I'm looking at you, school fair)* where I REALLY hoped there would be a kokuhaku option so everyone will finally stop hitting on my character's girlfriend.
Hold up *THERE'S A COSTUME WITH HER HAIR DOWN!?*