@@srinivasaraorao1043 Your understanding of Islam like a baby who understands science at the age of two. By the way We muslims don't believe Muhammed (S.A.W) is a God.
@@rohanrahman8138 : Muhammad is not God but he came from the devil 👿. Muhammad is presently in hell and burning. Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Jesus Christ will judge on judgment day. Allah is a pagan moon god of the Kabba.
@@hulchul8891 Where did you get this information? CNN or Whatsapp University 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣? In today's world, education is very important, as I just realised from your comment. So have some coffee and read some books on Islam. I hope you listen for your own benefit.
The “West” compared to what?? No “faith” on this planet damages or threatens freedom more than Islam. That’s my opinion and I’m ALLOWED to have it!!!! I’m not a person of ANY faith but can understand and support the opposition to it all!! Why are we still talking about this?!?. OMG!!!! Recognize our condition!!! Stop relating this to RELIGION!!! Please don’t speak of the problems humans have without considering the origin???…EMERGENCE of CONSCIOUSNESS???? !!!!!
I am a uneducated American currently residing temporary in Dublin Ireland and I have long conversations with Pakistanis, Brazilians, Greeks,Romanians, YOU NAME IT! Point being most people from anywhere around the planet are willing to have interesting conversations of respect and abundance. Never believe the social media hate and divide.
@@Truthseiker87 Yeah why was Muhammad possessed by a Djinn and his wife’s cousin told him it was the Angel Gabriel? Why was he unsure about his salvation if he is a Prophet of God?
I`d like to thank my dad for busting my balls to learn english at the age of 8, because without that, I would have never gotten to experience conversations and knowledge like this.
My friend don'tplay ignorant !! Because the fact is that the Koran writer didn't even know what Christians believe in! And if Paul1or anotherhas corruptet the Bible in the 1st century or not, it doesn't change the fact that according to the Koran Allah has no idea about Christianity and that in the 7th century!!!
*Peter the apostle of Jesus himself confirms Paul's writings as Holy Scriptures!* 2 Peter 3:15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
Peterson is handling this discussion very well. His humility comes through and his message of being humble and peaceful is much needed in this conversation.
@@zeadnasser4701 and he interviews the guy that said (I will choose a cow over 1.6 billion Muslims) and didn't interview not a single person to represent the other side, unfortunately, he's not the same he used to be like 1.5 years ago
Its the founding principal in Christianity. Whereas we see what the founding principal is in Islam that has birthed this young man Hijab - pride and religious superiority. Exactly what Jesus came to earth to END.
He says that he wants peace, but then goes on to storm Al-Aqsa compound with that robot sounding apartheid tribesmen creature. Rather what he wants is perennialism among Muslims and zionism for them. Did this interview happen before or after his storming of Al-Aqsa? Look up the video.
Also he was banned from twitter for annoying a girl that became a man right? So what does think of christianity that claims God became a man? Did God transition into an apartheid tribesmen creature? Is that why he stormed Al-Aqsa compound due to his belief that God belongs to the apartheid tribesmen's ethnicity?
Yes I agree..I love that too.. but we're expected to tolerate all kinds of ideas we don't agree with because we don't want to be perceived as dictators.. God wants us to come to him by knowledge not by force This discussion is very inspirational
Honestly though...what's wrong with saying that? No one believes what they believe because they think they are wrong. I think it is impossible to assume that you know better then someone else that has different ideas then you if, having met their ideas, you reject them. Better to tolerate people you think are wrong. Better TO tell them they are wrong if asked about it! Be honest about the disagreements, and teach the world to not be offended by assumptions everyone makes.
This is what the world needs. I appreciate Dr. Jordan Peterson, Jonathan and Mohammed Hijab sitting at the same table and having a Real Talk, to an extent in which they have talked in this video. We need more of this! Not only from these fine souls, that are in search and pursuit of remedy, but from many others.. on all levels. This is the way forward. Bless to all
@@commandar88 it's not about being perfect. This Hijab guy is open about his views about Pete do phelia and is very honest about apostates being killed. He apologizes for none of it, for which I am thankful for his honesty. Much better a snake wears it's own skin than coat itself with the wool of a sheep.
Well done, J Pageau for truly addressing the ' elephant in the room '... Inciting violence is wrong on all levels. You cannot pretend to be a true believer in your faith...Whichever that may be, when you are constantly showing yourself to be one sided and aggressive in your nature. May god bless us all. 🙏
Proud isn’t the best word, but yes they do need to appreciate who he is and what he has done. OR AT THE VERY LEAST give him some actual damn freedom of speech rights.
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
This is how a debate should unfold literally and not screaming and interrupting one another and not be able to speak, this is education at its finest, just beautiful for the ears.
*here YHWH says in the Old Testament he is the son who was pierced in a prophecy! 6th century before Jesus Christ* Zechariah 12,10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[1] of grace and supplication. They will look on[2] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
We see clearly! In John 19:37 "" "" You will look at the one you have pierced «" "" But you only look at one according to Zechariah 12:10 and that is YHWH !!! You only look at YHWH! So John 19:37 contradicts all newer versions of Zechariah 12:10 where another was pierced than YHWH !! YHWH speaks about this in Zechariah from his point of view and the apostles from the point of view of man! because you can see who you have pierced! And that's the one who says YOU LOOK AT ME !!! So the fact is YHWH says you look at ME !! And who are you looking at;). Exactly the one they pierced!
My friend according to textual criticism, the matter is clear! According to Zechariah, YHWH was pierced! because the Christian writings of Zechariah and the confirmation text in John are the oldest sources that exist!
Imagine if leaders from all walks of life and all religions could have intelligent, calm and respectful discussions like this each day how wonderful this world would be
Nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone for whatever you believe. I’m a Christian in training, wasn’t raised as a Christian, didn’t go to church, didn’t know God, just started about 4 years ago. I listen to all view points. Because of my experience 4 years ago with God and things God has shown me these last few years I know Jesus is not only my savior but God. I live by 3 rules (and probably don’t do them well). First I love God first, All other humans second, and I try to apply the Fruit of the Spirit to every conversation and everything I do. Communication is extremely important whether we agree or disagree, otherwise we have issues, communication is not trying to better someone or change someone THAT IS God’s plan and job. I’m an old guy and God didn’t need to use me until I 60. Sorry for the long conversation.
@@daisie222 "disagree" are just a word for u to make him look bad? people have their own belief, perspectives, theory, and anthing that is different since we are human and by u mean disagree does'nt mean he is ignorant, he makes his points and eloborate it rather than being (like u) no offense. a man who did'nt like to be disagreed by.
@@richardannaken no need to be sorry. it is admirable that u seek knowledge rather than be ignorant. i hope u can do research about muslims aswell it's quite interesting. A man that tolerate for anything protect nothing.
To be sitting in my living room and as a Christian in the US and listening to this amazing give and take conversation with Jordan, Mohammad Hijab and Jonathan on their religions is so heart warming. Having real conversations is what is going to help us all to live and work together as well as learn to respect one another for our differences. God Bless all of you all.
Basic Islam (*eg allah+Mohd+black stone…): 1. You have to believe in allah and equate a man by the name Mohammad next to him - idolatry; 2. You have to pray toward a rock that has a black stone in it - idolatry; 3. You have to give charity only to Muslim causes. You are not to support other causes. - But you claim Islam is a religion of peace and mercy. What a joke! 4. You have the fasting but when people cannot fast during the month, you pay somebody to fast on your behalf, and you earn righteousness! - But you deny what Christ Jesus did for you on the cross and His resurrection so that believers can get His righteousness (Rom4:25); 5. You go on perform the pilgrimage, but we heard what happened to the women (*being sexually abused) at the “holey place”. - Al Fadi
Jeremiah9:24but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and knows me, that I am the LORD who practices steadfast LOVE, justice, and righteousness in the earth. For in these things I delight, declares the LORD.”
@@hzjc9680 1- Yes, you have to believe in Allah and his messenger Mohammed(PBUH) and he is just a messenger and a prophet we do not consider him equal to Allah. 2- We pray towards the Kaaba and not worship the Kaaba, before our direction was changed to Kaaba the Mohammed (PBUH) and the Muslims at that time used to face Al-Aqsa Masjid which is in Jurusalem, and then Allah commanded them to face the Kaaba. 3-Muslims are not prohibited from giving charity to anyone unless they’re fighting against us. 4- You’re wrong again, someone cannot fast in your stead even if you pay them, you have to fast yourself and if you’re unable to because you’re traveling, sick, on menstrual cycle etc you make up for that fast by fasting in another month for how many fasts you missed and if you’re old, have a condition that makes you unable to fast because it puts you in danger you don’t have to fast instead you feed 1 person per day for how many fasts you missed, e.g you didn’t fast for 29 or 30 days in Ramadan you feed 29 or 30 people total 1 per day. 5- People who do atrocious acts like that when they’re at the holy place are the scum of earth and don’t fear Allah That rarely happens. Where did you even get your information from? I’d like to know because wow everything you said is wrong
What a wonderful discussion. I am Roman Catholic and I have many friends who are Muslim. We have been having similar conversations recently. These types of conversations are essential !!
I know that there are peaceful Muslims out there. What I find very disconcerting though are these Commandments from the Quran: Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)." Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …" How can such a commandment be tolerated by anyone?
Point 1 is that Mummamod was born 600 years after Jesus Christ was crucified on the cross and both the old and New Testament had been around for all those years beforehand and so a lot of the Islamic book has so much of the holy bible within its pages or at least the shadow of God’s Word.
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
Islam is a driven oratory system in many instances (rather than idle discussion), so sometimes it can be mistaken for lecture due to the style of teaching. Nonetheless it's confidence is why it ended Christianity long ago in most places and left them with nothing but churches full of old losers. If you haven't noticed youth influencers are ALL Islamic. Be it Tiktok, or British majority influencers like Andrew Tate.
This is so refreshing to see two people with differing ideas having a respectful discussion whilst challenging each other’s ideas without losing their cool or responding with anger or threats. This is what the world needs.
One of my best friends in the world, who died tragically a few months ago at the age of 41 was Muslim. I still cry every time I think of him. We were two opposites, yet…we were brothers. In the truest sense of the meaning. The debates we had were epic. But at the end of the day. We were brothers and and best friends. I miss that about him. What I would give to have him here to engage is this type of conversation again. This discussion should be cherished as a reminder that friendship and brotherhood transcends geography and faith.
It's early in the morning. It's too early to shed tears like this, Brother. But I am so sorry. I'm positive he is still keeping an eye on you. Being with you when you need him most. God Bless my friend. Go with the Father.
may Allah grant him the highest level of Jannah, If I may suggest that as an honor to your friend (and brother) you keep searching for the truth and search deep please, no pressure, I feel that a lot of people don't search/read enough, they try and hit the surface and then they delay and ignore till it's too late, sorry my English is not that good, may Allah bless you.
Like i just told my son today ,"Always be willing to hear both sides of an argument and never let the conversation break down . As a society, we really do depend on each other, and it's taken centuries to get here !" ❤😊
I’m glad people instill this in themselves and their families. It’s quite beautiful in a world of chaos. I do have to note though that conversation does tend to break down still but there’s absolutely still hope.
That is the very skill that has disappeared from universities: debate, discussion, apologetics, conversation. The whole reason for the existence of universities and town halls- inquiry, examination, development of new and better ways to conduct modes and methods of exploration- has been dispensed with only to have been replaced with myopic and soul-crushing oppression and ideological dogma. UA-cam is the new university, and it, too, is slowly being eroded.
@@burakcoskun38 what do you mean by "what"? what do you mean by "do"? what do you mean by "you"? what do you mean by "mean"? what do you mean by "by"?
I am a Christian who was raised Southern Baptist but now I am non-denominational. I've always had questions about faith and religion and how it correlates to mine or how it doesn't but here's where I'm stumped: In our Christian faith we are taught to honor our Mother & Father & so therefore in a lot of Christian households, we are taught about the Bible. So how can we look at other religions as being "wrong" whenever they likely had a similar way of adopting religion (through family)? I have met so many wonderful people from all different religions & it's incredibly hard to condemn someone for their religious beliefs because we can't even collectively define religion itself. Just to reiterate, I believe the Gospel but I would like someone from the Christian faith to explain to me how someone who was born Muslim and died Muslim who never knew Jesus will not be entering the Kingdom of Heaven??? Any thoughts on this would be welcomed.
I'm back to watch this because Jordan is the only person you ask one question and he speaks for 15 minutes uninterrupted and gets to the point in such an eloquent way.
If you have a good intellect, you should be able to convey your message and idea in less words and phrases. You can see a lot of the time that Jordan Peterson is just beating around the bush trying to avoid a straight forward answer. This only shows his lack of confidence and belief in his own Ideas.
@@BePostitivenot necessarily. The person he’s debating is closed minded. Normally when you’re debating closed minded ppl it’s either a lost cause or you have to beat around the bush to get your message across. Reason being is that they won’t take the cold hard fact lightly
Thank you Jonathan Pageau!! I see Christ in you through your humility of letting others speak first! James 1:19 "Let every person be quick to hear and slow to speak"
@@AC-mp7cx I care when people interrupt during a conversation. Who does NOT care? Conversations should be civil ..and a rule of civil discourse is: Do not interrupt.
Hijab failed to understand this strategy from JP thats how JP weaseled his way out of all the questions and constantly interrupted hijab Dishonest as expected
The Viktor Frankl book that Mohammed Hijab is referencing is called “Man’s search for Meaning”, and it’s one of the most important books I’ve read. Highly recommend it.
0:00: 🗣 The speaker discusses the importance of initiating dialogue and understanding between people of different religious faiths, emphasizing the need to focus on commonalities rather than differences. 10:36: 🗣 The speaker discusses the importance of engaging in difficult discussions and exploring different perspectives in order to find common ground and address historical atrocities. 20:04: 🗣 The speaker discusses the complex issue of responsibility for colonial past and offers an alternative perspective to the notion that the ideology of the West can fix all problems. 28:51: ✨ The speaker discusses the purpose of life and the importance of unity and humility in faith. 36:37: 🎶 The discussion explores the role of worship, ritual, and music in fostering unity and integration within communities, highlighting the importance of celebrating and praising a higher power. 46:05: 📚 The discussion revolves around the concept of truth, unity, and the compatibility of Christianity and scientific narratives. 55:26: 📚 The speaker discusses the centrality of the figure of Christ in different religious traditions and the significance of symbolic interpretation in Christianity. 1:04:21: 🤔 The speaker discusses the complexities of belief, perception, and interpretation in relation to questions about God and texts. 1:13:05: 💡 The speaker discusses the psychological perspective on why people are drawn to the crucifixion story and the concept of confronting tragedy and hell in life. 1:23:05: 📚 Discussion on the power of belief, unity, and the evidence for Prophet Muhammad's prophethood. 1:32:40: 📚 The speaker discusses various prophecies and beliefs related to Islam and evaluates the concept of proof in faith. Recap by Tammy AI
The US's 'Founding Fathers', already tried this approach of 'attempt to understand the muslim jackals, who kept killing & enslaving non-islamics indiscriminantly & without mercy or for amy apparent sane reason. They were told that that's how it's written in the q'ran & haddiths, that's how it'll remain. The result was a ban on muslims withim the US. Infortunately, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham & 1 or 2 other retards removed yhay law, in the 60's or 70's. That's treason & punishable by death. muslims are blooded from an early age & are raised to - expected to inflict fear, terror & atrocities upon the infidels via the 7 types of jihad, on every occassion, while being taught to deceive manipulate & destroy everything that wasn't made via allah. Look up taharoosh/taharuush. The way muslims achieve their halal food, is the same way the satanist elites get their adrenalin packed blood from tortured children before they're killed. They both pray to the devil & get along like a house on fire. To understand the reason why they always act like cut snakes, search for video & text on halal, adrenalin, epi-pen & adrenochrome processes. All are part of the global cabal & must be forced to leave our countries - receive the penalty of death, if they don't comply.
@@ahsanha9838 Neither to go into meaningless semantics about what simple words mean. JP thinks he can define what a woman is, but not words like "do", "you" or "believe".
Also he was banned from twitter for annoying a girl that became a man right? So what does think of christianity that claims God became a man? Did God transition into an apartheid tribesmen creature? Is that why he stormed Al-Aqsa compound due to his belief that God belongs to the apartheid tribesmen's ethnicity?
He says that he wants peace, but then goes on to storm Al-Aqsa compound with that robot sounding apartheid tribesmen creature. Rather what he wants is perennialism among Muslims and zionism for them. Did this interview happen before or after his storming of Al-Aqsa? Look up the video.
Peterson is suffering from the evangelical BS religion to believe that Israeli are sinless god's chosen and therefore have immunity and all rights to commit genocides and warcrimes.
Agreed. The word “Iman” in Islam, which is often incompletely translated as “faith” or “belief”, actually encompasses faith in the heart, affirmation with the tongue and manifestation in action. Without all components, one’s “Iman” is considered incomplete.
@@a4482921 great reminder, but it shows it should be on all levels.. because the real intention is so important for why a person doing what he is doing.. is it fame, power, wealth, satisfy getting attention, need to feel important, satisfy his mom or doing good (but what better than goodness that our creater is asking us to do ) thats how I see it.. but eventually the only one know our real intention is our creator who knows what in our hearts
@dianakhayal7816 we believe that too, it's actually explicitly said by the prophet peace be upon him "Actions are judged by intentions", and the guy who commented said the first thing is "faith in the heart", so all 3 things he mentioned should be present
What to study as well as Online Resources as new Muslims or even old ones Quran itself and the Sunnah. Old Scholars near that time 1. Sapiance Institute 2. Dr Zakir Naik lectures 3. IslamHouse 4. Ahmed Deedat 5. Islamqa info 6. Masjid Ribat channel by sheikh Uthman ibn Farooq 7. Blogging Theology 8. Smile2Jannah 9. MuslimSkeptic 10. Farid speaks gives good book recommendations 11. Check local mosques they sometimes have awesome books 12. Google islamic books and bookstores and get book recs by farid speaks. Conquest of the Sahaba by Al Imam Al waqidi is one Singular great videos 1. Hamza Tzortis vs Lawerence Krauss (4 million) 2. AustiN School, *"How Islam Saved the West",* *"Khalid Ibn walid profile of a Warrior"* (1.1 million) 3. Muslim, christian, jew a conversation (7 million views) 4. Mehdi Hassan, Islam is Peace (9.9 million views) F
The 2 main differences between Christianity: 1) -Yeshua claimed to be (and in fact, is) God. -Mohammed's brother declared him to be a prophet. 2) -Yeshua instructed His followers to spread the gospel by simply telling everyone, not by force. - Mohammed set the example for his followers by leading them in rampages across Arabia, killing some and making slaves of others who refused to convert.
@@kimberlypearce3732 ^ *forgets colonialism, nazis, kkk, crusaders, americans and russian nazis in the Muslim lands genocidin* Also atheists *Uyghur genocide, stalin, and Mao, Nanking*
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
I've been an athiest all 32 years of my life, more attracted to science and things that I can see or prove. To the point I've debated people in the past about how stupid the idea of a god is. Recently, I began to find myself being more and more interested in religion. I've no idea why, I just know that I felt a calling to learn more. Now baring in mind that I've been staunchly against the existence of a god, I started to get this strange feeling when I was doing things. The feeling of being watched. The feeling of being judged on my actions. As crazy as this sounds in words, I began to think to myself "he's watching. I shouldn't be doing this." I also began to get this feeling of presence. Like no matter what I'm doing there's a presence next to me and I'm apologising for certain things. If you've lived my life, you'd understand how crazy it sounds to me to be apologising in my head to God. As I walk, as I work, no matter what I'm doing it's all I'm thinking about. Apologising for all the people I've hurt in my life and hoping I'm forgiven. Even as I sit typing right now, I can feel a presence watching over me and it's almost to the level I feel like I'm typing this to spread the word. To open up someone else's eyes. I also started reading the bible not too long ago, and again, if you knew the life I was from you'd understand how crazy it is to even have a bible, it really was a huge step. Every single person in my life is completely non religious and would laugh if they seen my bible. I've had recent conversations where workmates have laughed off the idea of a god, they think the idea is something to mock religious people over. I didn't defend it. I didn't tell them i was religious. I didn't challenge them and I've found myself feeling riddled with guilt that I never. One of the arguments was "I grew out of religion when I was about 12 when i realised Santa wasn't real either." Unfortunately, I don't have the wisdom, or the information to defend or debate it right now, but I will have, eventually. Full disclosure, I still don't fully know if I'm Christian, I still have doubts, I'm still very much unsure what this journey is. But hopefully it starts to become clearer and clearer over the next few years. If if you've made it this far, thank you! I really appreciate your time🙂
Pray the sinners prayer by inviting Jesus into your heart, confess your sins to him and ask him to come into your heart save your by the blood of Jesus. And you are save . Ask God to show Himself to you.
Very similar life experience… there is a tremendous value in the teachings of Jesus and Christianity. Recently joined the Catholic Church… I have a duality in my mind, that it all could be made up and it could all be literally real… the fact I show up and opened myself to Christianity has been very rewarding still. Islam, however, after spending countless hours, days, weeks into learning about it… “Islam dies without lies” and we have to stop being polite about this dangerous perversion of Christianity and Judaism.
Kudos to Mohammed Hijab 🎉🎉🎉👍👏 He is intelligent & eloquent with an exceptionally high level of Emotional Quotient. His perspective is extremely grounded , level-headed , highly rational , focussed , organised & systematic. I was a fan of Jordan Peterson so I do respect him & his ideas. For this video , unfortunately & disappointedly , every time he goes on his elongated tangent to a simple & straightforward question , I cannot help but visualise him ... In a toga , floating around among the clouds , flitting from cloud to cloud & holding a harp but not playing it ....BECAUSE .... he does not know how to play it ‼️ He is merely holding the harp for CLOUT AMONG THE CLOUDS ‼️‼️‼️🤦♀️ Sad to say , this makes him look like .... An EMPTY CAN .... MAKING THE MOST NOISE ‼️‼️‼️🤦♀️
@@aryafaaz9345 Would it be more accurate if you said "I could not follow what Jordan Peterson was speaking about?" Surely, you're making a lot of noise yourself, you know?
I met a wonderful friend in college, and was blessed to have a similar type conversation with her, in private. She is black, I am white. We were close enough to ask each other every question about the differences we have experienced without embarressment, shame, or mincing words. She remains a blessing in my life. I understand so much more now...
My take away on this video is when Jordan tells us that by volunteering to confront our fears even if we're not calm it changes us to become braver around other things that cause us fear and not manifest that fear elsewhere. Thank you for this takeaway.
@@tom2443 for context refer to what rabbi unholy shmuley says to Muslims, if a particular group of muslim is responsible for a catastrophe it doesnt automatically justify inherent radicality of a religion, well thats very obvious unless you're intellectually molested and intellectually subservient. "says alot about him" cmon, dont embarrass yourself, this is a middle highschooler argument . "give em hell" explain that, consider arguing that lol
Not enough Jonathan Pageau! He is definitely the best listener. Love the discourse on music. Also the discussion about belief which must be lived-not only professed. These discussions need to be continued.
Jonathan posted a video on his channel explaining why he was the way he was in this discussion. He read Mohammad correctly.. you should go check it out.
@@terradargana3301I think he has a lot of respect for the British style reformations - Scottish and English Presbyterianism. And how influential it has been on western culture etc
I'm a Muslim, and this is the first time I hear Dr, Jordan speaking. And oh boy, he one of a character and thinker! And it was such an enjoyable talk between the three ❤️. I was moved when Dr, Jordan almost cryed at the end. I'm waiting for another talk like this in the future insha Allah ❤️
Associating with you fools is what's going to bring JBP down. It's not the gender debate, not the climate change. It's associating with this dude Hijab who's on video asking a group of people to attack non-believers.
I didn’t watch yet, but I will. I’m not religious, and I don’t believe in god. I believe in humanity, and goodness within. I think that is what we should pay reverence to. I also believe we are one big family, and our differences are just outwardly. We are all brothers, and sisters. I don’t need any other teaching, because goodness lives in my heart, and I’m trying to not be afraid of dying. I believe our only chance in life is the present. I believe when we die, we simply go back to our elemental earth. There is no saviour. We waste time in that belief, and fight amongst ourselves…FOR NOTHING, and certainly not for good.
@@patriciakeats1621 Forget Family and all! You by yourself will stand on the day of judgement! Goodness is God and the Righteousness is God! There is a light there is a darkness so similarly, If there is good then theres evil! And evil is contrary to God! Believe in Jesus Christ and be saved get baptized!
👏 👏 👏 It is evident how skilled a conversationalist and how professional Peterson is. This conversation could have gone off the rails a couple of times as was evident with the beginning of some questions and comments- but our man reigned it back on to a more productive course .❤ Amazing to experience!
He was soooo shaky (weak) when he came back in the public eye after almost dying from kicking benzos. Man, does he ever bring the fire and thunder......now that he has healed some. My God, it warms my soul! God bless, the Good Doctor!
It's inspiring to see someone overcome all kinds of unbelievably difficult adversities and then to rise back to the top, living by his own advice. Bravo, Dr. Peterson. Bravo. ❤ God bless.
😑Jordan is 💨 running from reality. He won't accept truth even if it was proven to him. This just shows his lack of sincerity. But he will cry on cue. ISLAM is the truth, but he refuses to accept because of his ego.
@@equityjustice2695 I'm not sure where you're coming from... it kind of sounds like you're forcing him to unquestionably adopt a religion that comes from a culture very different to his own. Is that truth?
@@equityjustice2695 You don't know for a fact that Islam is the truth, just like how no one on this earth knows all truths. Dogmatism was discussed in this video and you are displaying it clearly now! JP is plenty sincere and your letting your own beliefs cloud an objective judgement
As a christain I have made respect for all 3 of you. This was a FASCINATING discussion such professional people politely disagreeing and having the most intelectual discussions. BRAVO
This conversation was long needed. These 3 people were probably the best to have the conversation. This also shows the world how different views can sit and have a good time while disagreeing. Thank you
@@elingrome5853 Those parts of "the world" have expressed these views had these conversations and conducted debates/discussions when royalties in Europe couldn't read their own names
@@islamicsensei These discussions will always happen as long as different religions exist. These conversations are rare and it being streamed for the public makes it even more rare. It's amazing and hopefully more conversations like this will take place for the public.
The point is that we often start the discussion badly. Patience. ❤ I hope we get many more discussions like this; and that Jordan won’t be the only social glue that will hold together the disagreeable Jonathan & disagreeable Mohammed 👍
Hijab is not well equipped at all...only two people were here to understand and the other was only geared to convert. It will be quite some time before Mojab gets it. But in Mojab's lack of sincere engagement, we at least understand that Fundamental Muslims will oft express no particular position in understanding/appreciating the other...only to correct/bring the other into order..This is telling, leaving us with the question...will fundamental Islam ever have the ability to engage in equivalence...?
Nobody came to an agreement an the Muslim as cocky an arrogant as he may be didn’t even provide an facts an doesn’t know who Jesus really was, Muslims contradict themselves when it comes to Jesus an for hibjab to say provide the evidence an doesn’t accept when provided makes him look unintelligent an ignorant especially the part where they were gonna go off topic to prove hijab wrong but he didn’t want the smoke 1:09:32, for him to save they believe in Jesus an his miracles but not believe he is the son of God is mind blowing, no other person has done miracles in the Quran yet they go beating around the bush an pretending like they have truth but they go by the Old Testament that was before Jesus Christ & pick an choose what makes sense to them instead of the entire story which is ridiculously selfish
They say Mohammed saw a vision of the revaluation from an angel but in the Bible Galatians chpt 1: vs8-9 it clearly says that we shouldn’t believe in anything other than what God has told us an clearly that’s not what Muslims do, yet they’ll pick an choose what’s best for them 😂 absolutely absurd fallacy
Allah Glory to him said:”Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.-72-Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment.-73-Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.-74- The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food.1 See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!-75- Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “How can you worship besides Allah those who can neither harm nor benefit you? And Allah ˹alone˺ is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”-76- Say, “O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes in your faith beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of those who went astray before ˹you˺. They misled many and strayed from the Right Way.”-77- The disbelievers among the Children of Israel were condemned in the revelations of David and Jesus, son of Mary. That was for their disobedience and violations.-78- They did not forbid one another from doing evil. Evil indeed was what they did!-79- You see many of them taking the disbelievers1 as allies. Truly wicked are their misdeeds, which have earned them Allah’s wrath. And they will be in everlasting torment.-80- Had they believed in Allah, the Prophet, and what has been revealed to him, they would have never taken those ˹pagans˺ as allies. But most of them are rebellious-81- You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant.-82- When they listen to what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears for recognizing the truth. They say, “Our Lord! We believe, so count us among the witnesses.-83- Why should we not believe in Allah and the truth that has come to us? And we long for our Lord to include us in the company of the righteous.”-84-So Allah will reward them for what they said with Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there forever. And that is the reward of the good-doers.-85-“ Al-Maida Al Quran Al-Kareem
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful Allah Glory to him said: Indeed, Allah chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Imrân [father of Mary] above all people. -33- They are descendants of one another. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. -34- ˹Remember˺ when the wife of ’Imrân said, “My Lord! I dedicate what is in my womb entirely to Your service,1 so accept it from me. You ˹alone˺ are truly the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” -35-When she delivered, she said, “My Lord! I have given birth to a girl,”-and Allah fully knew what she had delivered-“and the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary, and I seek Your protection for her and her offspring from Satan, the accursed.”-36- So her Lord accepted her graciously and blessed her with a pleasant upbringing-entrusting her to the care of Zachariah. Whenever Zachariah visited her in the sanctuary, he found her supplied with provisions. He exclaimed, “O Mary! Where did this come from?” She replied, “It is from Allah. Surely Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit.”-37- Then and there Zachariah prayed to his Lord, saying, “My Lord! Grant me-by your grace-righteous offspring. You are certainly the Hearer of ˹all˺ prayers.”-38- So the angels called out to him while he stood praying in the sanctuary, “Allah gives you good news of ˹the birth of˺ John who will confirm the Word of Allah and will be a great leader, chaste, and a prophet among the righteous.”-39- Zachariah exclaimed, “My Lord! How can I have a son when I am very old and my wife is barren?” He replied, “So will it be. Allah does what He wills.” -40- Zachariah said, “My Lord! Grant me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not ˹be able to˺ speak to people for three days except through gestures. Remember your Lord often and glorify ˹Him˺ morning and evening.”-41- And ˹remember˺ when the angels said, “O Mary! Surely Allah has selected you, purified you, and chosen you over all women of the world. -42- O Mary! Be devout to your Lord, prostrate yourself ˹in prayer˺ and bow along with those who bow down.”-43- This is news of the unseen that We reveal to you ˹O Prophet˺. You were not with them when they cast lots to decide who would be Mary’s guardian, nor were you there when they argued ˹about it˺.-44- ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word1 from Him, his name will be the Messiah,2 Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.-45- And he will speak to people in ˹his˺ infancy and adulthood and will be one of the righteous.” -46- Mary wondered, “My Lord! How can I have a child when no man has ever touched me?” An angel replied, “So will it be. Allah creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, ‘Be!’ And it is! -47- And Allah will teach him writing and wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,-48- and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird-by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life-by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe. -49- And I will confirm the Torah revealed before me and legalize some of what had been forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be mindful of Allah and obey me. -50- Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.’” -51- When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.” -52- ˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.” -53- And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned-and Allah is the best of planners.-54- ˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes. -55- As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers. -56- And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.” -57- We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder. -58- Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! -59- This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt. -60- }} Al-Imaran Al-Quran Al-Kareem
I was a Muslim for a little over a year and then turned my back on God for a long time, and was Athiest, and then after a while I found Christ. As a Christian I will always look at and treat Muslims with great respect. I really admire how pious and devout almost all of them are. I love my Muslim brothers and I am trying to bring peace between Muslims and Christians. We are both brothers of God. God bless you all 🙏✝🤝☪
@@suluklu DB is not wrong though. But one should respect all three for the fair conversation. Still I won't call it an honest conversation coz I hv seen hizab's dark side. For him everything comes down to "would you like to accept Islam?"
@@prabhatbiharipandey1441 regardless I listened to all sides and found both sides sincere on their agenda. Beautiful dialogue which is rear but it was pretty short. I believe speakers did benefit from each other too
Listening to JP’s conversations is fast becoming my favourite part of preparing dinner. Respectful dialogue is really relaxing. Much gratitude for this.
The US's 'Founding Fathers', already tried this approach of 'attempt to understand the muslim jackals, who kept killing & enslaving non-islamics indiscriminantly & without mercy or for amy apparent sane reason. They were told that that's how it's written in the q'ran & haddiths, that's how it'll remain. The result was a ban on muslims withim the US. Infortunately, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham & 1 or 2 other retards removed yhay law, in the 60's or 70's. That's treason & punishable by death. muslims are blooded from an early age & are raised to - expected to inflict fear, terror & atrocities upon the infidels via the 7 types of jihad, on every occassion, while being taught to deceive manipulate & destroy everything that wasn't made via allah. Look up taharoosh/taharuush. The way muslims achieve their halal food, is the same way the satanist elites get their adrenalin packed blood from tortured children before they're killed. They both pray to the devil & get along like a house on fire. To understand the reason why they always act like cut snakes, search for video & text on halal, adrenalin, epi-pen & adrenochrome processes. All are part of the global cabal & must be forced to leave our countries - receive the penalty of death, if they don't comply.
I agree! The decision not to take anything personally and speak for a higher purpose means that petty things are moved past quickly and actually are taken in good humour. Good point!
There is nothing to get upset about unless you can’t think critically enough to understand why someone may think a certain way,even if you think the opposite!!Its not necessarily that you agree,but you can see where they are coming from ,and then you just agree to disagree!!That in itself can move us forward and come to a common ground,if you are mad,you don’t grasp,you don’t accept and you go into your respective corners and the problem never gets solved!!!
Can you please meet and have these kind of coversations consistently, and have a topic to discussion each time? Because we need more of these conversations.
Yes. Without Jonathon. The man just stayed silent and refused to engage the whole time, especially when Hijab gave objective and rational criticism to Christian doctrines. Pathetic. Why was he invited? Lmao. Invite someone else.
I don’t see that philosophy most of the time and philosophy is waist of time and this is the real problem with Dr. Peterson he is good in his psychology knowledge but regarding religion he is kind of lost cause religion must be combined with reasoning and facts and evidences in addition to spiritual faith
Christianity and Islam is religion of the East. Birthplace of the people and events happened in the East. Native American, Mexico, South America and indigenous people are religions of the West. Geographically. I’m not educated on that level of those people and they don’t even know the basics. Are you sure they have an IQ of 180+??! and university level??? Sorry, but I can’t take this conversation seriously now but I’m open to listen. Respectfully.
@UCVCWeR_4mXbAqRYLuf1Rsiw I hope less ppl like you sees this , just by the very first few seconds you made a negative assumption😂 .You belong to twitter my guy
Islam is a vision for life. It is a system for how to live on this planet with 7+ billion human beings and make sure everyone is taken care of. It makes heroes out of boys and it makes scholars out of mothers. This Deen of Islam is the correct solution for life, and the Secular system is man made garbage. if the conversation was more focused on solutions, then the discussion would be far less about subjective views and beliefs. or random claims like "i will look at this as a psychologist" or "no I would not accept something with enough proven evidence". In the end, This video ends up being great youtube click content for likes and followers.
@@MA-gv3wg I don’t think they were speaking in geographical terms when they say “Christianity and Islam are religions of the west”. I think they are speaking statistically with regards to the amount of people in the west that either identify as a Christian or a Muslim.
@@MA-gv3wg You simply did not understand what was mentioned. And Islam, as a Muslim, we would never call it a religion of any specific place except that of the entire Earth. So would a Christian, of his/her belief. The topic at hand here, simply was in reference to the amount of people in it. As in those are the two major beliefs, in the West.
Find one person in the world who's trying like Mr Peterson to understand humans like he does. Thank you Jordan Peterson my sons will learn a lot about you Sir!
Please, we were this way. You think that's special? Lol I kinda feel bad for you. And if he had a sincere hunger for truth, he would have been a Muslim decades ago. Ego also plays a huge part (and working on its destruction).
@@rafaelmugnainimartins7502 I didn't ask you to change yours but you're welcome anyway! I see the people who love Peterson; pseudo-intellectuals who don't actually know what's going on but.. I mean.. it sounds like he knows what he's talking about! Oh I can't wait for you to find out lol
I'm almost a below average student, but when i listen to talks like these and watch documentaries, i feel i learn more, more than school offers, not that I'm dismissing the importance of school, but i love when people speak without the media and world pollution involved, it's really really amazing
If you’re interested in talks such as this, it’s obvious that you’re intelligent and curious. “Don’t let your schooling get in the way of your learning.”- said by someone smart. Read more and continue to seek knowledge.
If this discussion speaks to you, try looking into Blogging Theology channel. There are bunch of topics of theism and even more specifically in depth on Islam being discussed at length.
You're not dismissing the importance of education, by pointing out the monotony of indoctrination, and the oppression of free creative thinking, within the modern education system.
Jordan my brother how brother Mohammed said violence after you schooled him was a low blow. The Lord 👑🪽 gave you competent wisdom. As a witness to this conversation am proud of the way you word every reply or action for a reply is unbelievably respectful ! Bless everyone watching and brother Mohammed for attending this debate. Love when you both get together and relay to one another it teaches us so much and the information contained in valuable information. Thank you all kindly. We are all siblings and should treat each other this way. Agree 💯 brother Jonathan when comes to original sin, we choose to sin it is not someone's choice on our behalf !!!
5:08 Tolerance presumes I know what I’m doing. 7:15 We’re gonna stumble into each other. 14:59 Colonialism 16:22 The Evil Uncle motif • Willful Blindness • “All of us walk on blood soaked ground.” Conquistadores 19:44 One soul should not bear the consequences of another’s actions. 23:43 Masked Men Me the Individual And The Religion 27:02 The Moral Foreigner 30:45 Higher Unity 33:07 Thrown Into Life 34:50 We Reject Original Sin 38:44 Music, layers of harmony 49:55 Positive 52:59 Human & Divine Nature 54:48 Christ is contentious Diologos - diolouge 58:06 1. Jesus Christ Existed/Did Not exist 2. Christ Raised The Dead/Did Not 1:02:25 A Perpetual Story, Eternal Battle of Spirit 1:04:04 What do you mean by “Did it happen?” 1:05:30 _”Its really hard to believe that you’re disagreeable.”_ 1:08:36 Problem: Multiplicity of Perception 1:12:23 Why this story not that story? 1:15:07 Bravery 1:16:40 Why do people go to horror movies? • Lost in the desert • losing faith • getting bitter means getting bitten • very often God does not call off the snakes • (Look to Hope in the face of Catastrophe?) 1:21:53 bad stuffs gonna come at you, confront and contend with it Patient and Thankful 1:24:34 Different Spirits in Struggle Gulag [Stanford Prison] Genuine Striving 1:27:21 If I could show Reasonable Evidence, would you change your mind? 1:34:33 Honor How hard do you shine ✨?
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
What a great conversation. The fact they are all disagreeable makes for a deeper dive into discussion. And the fact they are not offended to the point of anger or resentment makes for a stable conversation. Firm yet respectful is what is lacking in this world today.
Very well worded and true. I, along with many others im guessing, was dismissive of his attempts at first and assumed it was a one off attempt/video but im very happy to see his persistent and genuinely desires, at least a quasie, theistic unity
That room really needed someone like Matt Dillahunty in it, too, to make for a more fair and balanced world view. Because all the jabs at ethics of non-believers or differences in approach to individualism therein, would have been addressed. As well as issues between religions and just not being part of one.
As an agreeable person I don't see Peterson as disagreeable though. I say this because you say "they are all disagreeable" which raised an eyebrow for me.
Wow! This was mysitcal to say the least! I felt like a veil was pulled back that's never been lifted before. That being said, I want MORE! This needed to be 8 hours long at least, so they could each take their time and fully follow each thought, with multiple days even! God bless you all!
This wasnt mystical. It was actually quite silly. One guy believes in god and the other doesn't even know what god is ot means and overcomplicates every argument until you lose track of what the point is.
I see a very arrogant, ignorant, immature, lost graduate student, pretending to be humble but know everything, trying very hard to teach, and actually look to personal attack, a truely humble, mature, intelligent, confidence, knowledgeable, patience professor who had done a lot of inner works and know himself very well.
@@sergiolalopez3598 As Muslims it's important to give reference if we are quoting something from Quran not just translation but Arabic as well, it's a common practice among Muslims even those who don't know Arabic learn the specific verse to convey the message with absolute Authenticity. Look up for any Islamic Scholar or even a student and you'll find them doing this.
This type of conversations is very neccessary for the humanity! We have learned so much and the amount of knowledge and wisdom between all of them was phenomenal! I would love to see dr Jordan peterson debates dr Zakir naik . That would absolutely epic! Greetings from Afghanistan
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
@@hannawurst6064 Christians Are unfortunately getting more and more idol worshipping people,, despite the fact the errors and mistakes in your Bible!!! By the way for which Bible are we talking about??? There are so many Bibles out there ?? And all are fully corrupted!!! 😃😃😃😃
This should be a tutorial video on how to have a civil productive conversation between different beliefs and opinions. It was very heart warming to listen to this, a beacon of light in a world of madness. God bless you all
@@jsharp9735 The arbitrary word "life" is just a verbal masturbation for the sake of orientation. Humans are temporary composed of materials with properties producing the temporary and fuzzy effects of identity. Same as the walls 🧱 are made of bricks. Nothing special. If your question is, where reality comes from? It is , was and always will be..
I greatly appreciated the opportunity to hear this conversation. A lot of us are questioning what is happening around us more and more. Such discussions have traditionally been held between intellectuals, philosophers, and theologians, leaving the common man in the dark. Being an audience to such conversations helps sift through some thoughts, biases, and concerns we have in a seemingly more confused world. This hit the mark.
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful Allah Glory to him said: Indeed, Allah chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Imrân [father of Mary] above all people. -33- They are descendants of one another. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. -34- ˹Remember˺ when the wife of ’Imrân said, “My Lord! I dedicate what is in my womb entirely to Your service,1 so accept it from me. You ˹alone˺ are truly the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” -35-When she delivered, she said, “My Lord! I have given birth to a girl,”-and Allah fully knew what she had delivered-“and the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary, and I seek Your protection for her and her offspring from Satan, the accursed.”-36- So her Lord accepted her graciously and blessed her with a pleasant upbringing-entrusting her to the care of Zachariah. Whenever Zachariah visited her in the sanctuary, he found her supplied with provisions. He exclaimed, “O Mary! Where did this come from?” She replied, “It is from Allah. Surely Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit.”-37- Then and there Zachariah prayed to his Lord, saying, “My Lord! Grant me-by your grace-righteous offspring. You are certainly the Hearer of ˹all˺ prayers.”-38- So the angels called out to him while he stood praying in the sanctuary, “Allah gives you good news of ˹the birth of˺ John who will confirm the Word of Allah and will be a great leader, chaste, and a prophet among the righteous.”-39- Zachariah exclaimed, “My Lord! How can I have a son when I am very old and my wife is barren?” He replied, “So will it be. Allah does what He wills.” -40- Zachariah said, “My Lord! Grant me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not ˹be able to˺ speak to people for three days except through gestures. Remember your Lord often and glorify ˹Him˺ morning and evening.”-41- And ˹remember˺ when the angels said, “O Mary! Surely Allah has selected you, purified you, and chosen you over all women of the world. -42- O Mary! Be devout to your Lord, prostrate yourself ˹in prayer˺ and bow along with those who bow down.”-43- This is news of the unseen that We reveal to you ˹O Prophet˺. You were not with them when they cast lots to decide who would be Mary’s guardian, nor were you there when they argued ˹about it˺.-44- ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word1 from Him, his name will be the Messiah,2 Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.-45- And he will speak to people in ˹his˺ infancy and adulthood and will be one of the righteous.” -46- Mary wondered, “My Lord! How can I have a child when no man has ever touched me?” An angel replied, “So will it be. Allah creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, ‘Be!’ And it is! -47- And Allah will teach him writing and wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,-48- and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird-by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life-by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe. -49- And I will confirm the Torah revealed before me and legalize some of what had been forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be mindful of Allah and obey me. -50- Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.’” -51- When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.” -52- ˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.” -53- And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned-and Allah is the best of planners.-54- ˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes. -55- As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers. -56- And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.” -57- We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder. -58- Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! -59- This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt. -60- }} Al-Imaran Al-Quran Al-Kareem
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
I cannot tell you how much my husband and I enjoyed this! We are recently married (about 6 weeks) and paused to talk about our own thoughts a time or three. Mr. Peterson has been a very positive influence in both our lives. "Keep Shinin', Y'all" has been my closing since 2010. Thank you for the conversation and beautiful closing here.
This was a calm, careful discussion on all parties and it did my heart good to hear 3 people of different opinions and faiths speak openly and freely with each other without resulting in yelling and screaming. Kudos to all ya'll.
It's definitely a good start of a conversation to be continued hopefully. Also from my American standpoint I remember it is written humility comes before honor.
The passion Jordan speaks with can silence a stadium. Two weeks ago I watched a UA-cam video from you that saved my life. You speak so practically but do it so passionately. If people only listened more instead of becoming defensive about what you say we would be able to see our differences as beautiful and would live in a more peaceful world. I wish we could listen to each other.
Yes, a peaceful world is what we all want. But the point in life can - according to my opinion - never be something within this world! The point of life is to find your way to God!
@@fidelio5390 I agree and I only wish that if we agreed that our faith is our motivation and we have the same end goal we could achieve some peaceful existence
Agreed. Mr. Hijab, also was a force of knowledge. I lived and worked in Egypt, I have so much respect for the Christian and Muslim community. I feel both sides learned a lot from each other.
OMG! Excellent! My intellect has been so stimulated that even if I don’t totally understand that concepts, my Spirit says Amen! Something in me on a spiritual level has been fed. So thankful for Dr Jordan Peterson❤
Beautiful and brave comment. May Allah bless you for your very humble demeanour. Something so pleasant about someone with seemingly so little ego. Love it!
I can respond if you like. I suppose you could call me a Christian as I try to follow the words of Jesus and the bible, search for a closer relationship with God, and go to church meetings. The consistent “evidence” supporting my own belief in what (and who) I consider to be the way and truth has been the vast array of modern psychological, sociological and psychoanalytical findings that seem to fall perfectly in place with what God communicates to us in the bible, especially in Jesus’ teachings. Peterson points out quite a few more consistencies in this discussion, which I found fascinating. On top of that, I love his articulation of the idea that looking at stories in the bible as literal, historical, somewhat ephemeral incidences are in a way downplaying their eternal significance, because they were true then, they are now, and they will be in the future.
On top of that, I also loved hearing from Mohammed about the consistencies with modern life which his holy book have described. On the darker side, I do believe his fervent (and no doubt religiously dutiful) attempts to convince the other two of the higher value or more rightful place of his own religion was kind of missing the point of where this conversation was intended to go. I hoped the core similarities and differences would be discussed in order to reach a further understanding of how we can coexist without conflict, but as Mohammed had suggested a few times, unity is not his main goal.
Jordan Peterson’s answer to whether he will convert to Islam if there is evidence that it is true was epic: No. Because that’s not how I evaluate the situation….. the proof of faith is the attractiveness of its adherence. Are you a shining example of the Muslim faith? How hard do you shine?……. That is the very big problem. No shine. No conversion. Our belief or our faith can be seen by the fruit by the action. As Jesus said: by the fruit you will know the tree. And Peterson just crushed Hijab. 🔥
If you shine the way you claim and follow the faith as it is, billions wouldn't have left the faith. You don't pay attention to.your reality, you live in your head.
Yes but what is biblical text, like really you have to define text, text can mean a lot of things to many different people, don't get me started on biblical.
@@CERBERUS300ify who hurt you? I have benefited a lot from his lectures, am sorry Ryan, look elsewhere for someone who may wiggle something that you'll find worth your time...
5:06 Dr Jordan: “I’m actually not here to be tolerant” WOW i give him a lot of credit for being brutally honest & sticking to his beliefs, & showing guts!!!
But that was more of a statement saying its not out of tolerance because that would mean he's just putting up with him. Hes just tolerating this debate. So I think he explained quite well why he didn't use the word "tolerate"
He's not there? How's he going to ask a totally irrelevant question? Last I checked, he was Israeli? Peterson is CHRISTIAN! Hijab is Muslim? What are you talking about??
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
A good way of putting it. I think a lot of people dont like him because they believe his answers are pedantic and lengthy, but in reality its just detailed. With the right detail mind you. Too much of modern society acts and speaks in a fast forward manner, so articulate detailed conversations like this arent met well with an ignorant modern public.
This has to be the best conversation i have come across on these topics. Much respect to these men for coming together and setting a great example for all of us. I genuinely enjoyed hearing each of them share their thoughts.
There have been 124,000 Prophets (peace be upon them all) that Allah/God has sent since the beginning of time. Allah says, “We have sent to every nation a Messenger saying, “Worship Allah alone and reject the worship of false idols.” (Quran 16:36) The purpose of these Prophets was to direct people away from the worship of their own ideas, others human beings/celebrities, objects etc. That is because every human being has the connection to pray to God anytime, anywhere. Another important emphasis was so that people would stop making pictures of what they think God looks like. In order to understand God, it is important to study the Holy Books, especially the final Holy Book the Quran so we can put all the pieces together. Often times many just end up following whatever religion or culture they are born in without fully investigating and doing the research of all the religions. God has given this special unique ability to the human being the makes us different from all other creations- to be able to read and write. It is also important to be conscious of how God is coordinating everything in the universe in a systematic order, including the events that are happening in our lives. There are lessons daily in order for our growth. Situations that we may perceive as bad are actually for a good reason (that may not always make sense to us) but every situation should be used for motivation, to learn and to become closer to God. Now each of these Messengers emphasized that God is only One and is neither born nor can die. Often we see pictures and statues of these false images of God that look half animal half human, or to call another human being God like the worship of Jesus. HUMANS ARE LIMITED, GOD IS LIMITLESS God has the ability to listen to every single human being at the same second, whether we speak out loud or within ourselves. Imagine there were a group of 25 people talking out loud at the same time, how difficult would it be to understand every conversation going on at the same time? God has this ability to do this. God is also watching every single human being and coordinating everything in our lives at the same second. With our eyes, ears and senses, we are just not able to do what God is able to do, let alone God has in perfect coordination this entire universe with billions of galaxies. God does not eat, sleep, have a brain or a heart. Therefore no picture, image or any human being is anything like God. This is the message of Islam, to worship God alone, the same exact message of all the Messengers including Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them).
Thank a lot to cameraman 📽️🎞️🎬🎙️he did very well and professional his job. Thank you very much cameraman and All of you who have participated in this beautiful conversation.
Dr. JP: “This isn’t an insult; I’m telling you what my reaction is…” Mohammed Hijab: “Please” -if we could get this interaction right as a species, the rest of life would be so easy. This is an excellent sampling of honest, thoughtful exchange between intelligent persons. More, please. Thank you 🙏🏼 cheers.
@@martin4670 the abrahamic ideas and stories, the abrahamic religion especially islam and Christianity are no where near as old as brionze age, surely judiasim is also not as old as bronze age, islam originited 6th-7th Century AD/CE
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Been a beneficiary of Dr Peterson’s work for years, but I feel like sometimes he overcomplicates things unnecessarily for himself. Of course there are nuances and levels of meaning that are worth investigating in intellectual topics, but there are also many things in the world and about ourselves that can and should be and indeed are very simple. A Chinese idiom states “大道至简”, “the highest truth is the simplest”. I don’t think it’s beneficial to always jump to the symbolism of things without carefully but also simply looking at their perceptible reality. Perhaps he can attempt to give some simple answers to the simple questions that Mohamed hijab asked, such as “where are we from?”, “where are we going?”, “what’s the purpose of life”, etc. And if he doesn’t have readily available answers, perhaps it wouldn’t harm to look at some simple answers already existing, and looking at them with a humble and curious mind. Might be interesting what he will find.
The Doctor is just a man with degrees that has major illusions of grandeur. Craves the adulation. He is no smarter than you. Do not give these kind of folks your power. Question, think for yourself. Just the start of another cult. He scares the crap out of me.
those are not simple questions though. For someone who follows God it is because we are given the answer. if you are not a Christian, Muslim or Jew... there is no defined meaning of life. I imagine that you are someone who was raised in a faith. For Jordan Peterson he is from an athiest household. It's not nuanced at all and his faith is greater than someone who has known God his whole life.
I second McLellan's comment about those questions not being simple. In fact, those are some of the deepest existential questions that can be asked. It's far from clear what our purpose in life is. Do we address that question at the level of the individual or broadly at the level of humanity as a whole? Is the answer different depending on the level of analysis? If so, is it radically different or only somewhat different? Etc., etc. As far as I can tell, the only truth that is at least initially simple is the affirmation that truth exists. Beyond that, the complications are legion.
@@merquiadesmclellan2800 JP does not believe in god. If he did, he wouldn't keep dodging the question. The most he's said is that God might exist. Making him essentially agnostic. Therefore, his faith is nonexistent. If you want to take the lessons from religion and turn them into secular life advice, just say that. End of story.
@@arttusuonsivu8492 I didn't say he believed on God. I'm not sure what you read. I said that people that do believe in God have an answer for questions like "what is the eating of life". JP asks these questions because he is not of a faith. Also, if you watch his most recent videos and podcasts I'd say he believes I God.
Listening to these guys is humbling, I’m not as smart as I thought I was Mashallah. I love being a student to everyone that knows something beneficial that I don’t
a sign of intelligence is knowing that you don't know everything, and you can always learn more. Also being open to the fact that you might have been wrong on what you thought you knew, and accepting new ideas etc
@@Dodo-ds7yk yes. Dr. Peterson came to meet hijab with the intention of learning, to build bridges, to come together to make peace using our similarities but hijab didn't come for friendship and positives he came to try and get Dr. Peterson to convert to Islam. Hahaha, it'll never happen because there's so much wrong with Islam no amount of mental gymnastics can get over the facts like always at war even with other Muslims, peodophilia, suicide bombers etc etc.
Much appreciate for this conversation. This is what can unite all of us. Not debates. Only conversation. Only finding similarity in our religion. Thank you, Dr. Peterson!
I like how Dr. Peterson comes of out of the gate saying he wants "to start a dialogue stupidly and badly". It's humble and socratic. I don't really know too much, but I am going to attempt to do something, and I am going to do it badly. But let's at least get it started.
If you could add subtitles in French, Spanish and German, you could reach more people around the world, because what you are doing is for everyone, especially in these times when we need less division and restore values and common sense.
Allah Glory to him said:”Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.-72-Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment.-73-Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.-74- The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food.1 See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!-75- Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “How can you worship besides Allah those who can neither harm nor benefit you? And Allah ˹alone˺ is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”-76- Say, “O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes in your faith beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of those who went astray before ˹you˺. They misled many and strayed from the Right Way.”-77- The disbelievers among the Children of Israel were condemned in the revelations of David and Jesus, son of Mary. That was for their disobedience and violations.-78- They did not forbid one another from doing evil. Evil indeed was what they did!-79- You see many of them taking the disbelievers1 as allies. Truly wicked are their misdeeds, which have earned them Allah’s wrath. And they will be in everlasting torment.-80- Had they believed in Allah, the Prophet, and what has been revealed to him, they would have never taken those ˹pagans˺ as allies. But most of them are rebellious-81- You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant.-82- When they listen to what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears for recognizing the truth. They say, “Our Lord! We believe, so count us among the witnesses.-83- Why should we not believe in Allah and the truth that has come to us? And we long for our Lord to include us in the company of the righteous.”-84-So Allah will reward them for what they said with Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there forever. And that is the reward of the good-doers.-85-“ Al-Maida Al Quran Al-Kareem
I am a Christian and have visited many Muslim countries I.e Jordan - Palestine- Egypt - Morrocco - Pakistan - Algeria - kula Lumpur- Kuwait and have had many conversations I feel so at home there and most of my best friends are Muslim ' some of us can't speak each other's language 'still very close ' translators/text. Really loved this video and it's true that we are very similar and get a long good . Just the media makes it like we are enemies - Don't take my word for it just travel and you will see for yourself .I have the up most respect for all my brothers ...
@@knightara Unfortunately for an extremely massive amount of the population of both communities you Mentioned There's plenty of reasons. If you actually interpret the word as the word of God and/or It's Allah to be literal in its interpretation then From the Christian perspective all muslims will burn in hell for eternity and all christians need to die as an infidel should
Most people that have the views of what you're saying cherry pick from their religion and believe and don't believe What it is they feel like it's ridiculous how many people that are religious have never actually read through the text and we're just indoctrinated at a young age and told I mean of course If God is all forgiving that even if you do screw up you can always come back so just live your life how you want I mean it's so contradictory and ignorant
There was an Owl who lived in an oak, The more he heard the less he spoke. The less he spoke the more he heard oh why can't I be like that wise old Bird..
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful Allah Glory to him said: Indeed, Allah chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Imrân [father of Mary] above all people. -33- They are descendants of one another. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. -34- ˹Remember˺ when the wife of ’Imrân said, “My Lord! I dedicate what is in my womb entirely to Your service,1 so accept it from me. You ˹alone˺ are truly the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” -35-When she delivered, she said, “My Lord! I have given birth to a girl,”-and Allah fully knew what she had delivered-“and the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary, and I seek Your protection for her and her offspring from Satan, the accursed.”-36- So her Lord accepted her graciously and blessed her with a pleasant upbringing-entrusting her to the care of Zachariah. Whenever Zachariah visited her in the sanctuary, he found her supplied with provisions. He exclaimed, “O Mary! Where did this come from?” She replied, “It is from Allah. Surely Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit.”-37- Then and there Zachariah prayed to his Lord, saying, “My Lord! Grant me-by your grace-righteous offspring. You are certainly the Hearer of ˹all˺ prayers.”-38- So the angels called out to him while he stood praying in the sanctuary, “Allah gives you good news of ˹the birth of˺ John who will confirm the Word of Allah and will be a great leader, chaste, and a prophet among the righteous.”-39- Zachariah exclaimed, “My Lord! How can I have a son when I am very old and my wife is barren?” He replied, “So will it be. Allah does what He wills.” -40- Zachariah said, “My Lord! Grant me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not ˹be able to˺ speak to people for three days except through gestures. Remember your Lord often and glorify ˹Him˺ morning and evening.”-41- And ˹remember˺ when the angels said, “O Mary! Surely Allah has selected you, purified you, and chosen you over all women of the world. -42- O Mary! Be devout to your Lord, prostrate yourself ˹in prayer˺ and bow along with those who bow down.”-43- This is news of the unseen that We reveal to you ˹O Prophet˺. You were not with them when they cast lots to decide who would be Mary’s guardian, nor were you there when they argued ˹about it˺.-44- ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word1 from Him, his name will be the Messiah,2 Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.-45- And he will speak to people in ˹his˺ infancy and adulthood and will be one of the righteous.” -46- Mary wondered, “My Lord! How can I have a child when no man has ever touched me?” An angel replied, “So will it be. Allah creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, ‘Be!’ And it is! -47- And Allah will teach him writing and wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,-48- and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird-by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life-by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe. -49- And I will confirm the Torah revealed before me and legalize some of what had been forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be mindful of Allah and obey me. -50- Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.’” -51- When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.” -52- ˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.” -53- And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned-and Allah is the best of planners.-54- ˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes. -55- As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers. -56- And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.” -57- We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder. -58- Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! -59- This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt. -60- }} Al-Imaran Al-Quran Al-Kareem
Its amazing how much more effective talks like this are without an audience interrupting every 5 seconds
It mean that when you appling logic mean itself you don't have holy sprit leading in you then it is difficult to understand God mahamad
@@srinivasaraorao1043 Your understanding of Islam like a baby who understands science at the age of two. By the way We muslims don't believe Muhammed (S.A.W) is a God.
@@rohanrahman8138 : Muhammad is not God but he came from the devil 👿. Muhammad is presently in hell and burning. Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Jesus Christ will judge on judgment day. Allah is a pagan moon god of the Kabba.
@@hulchul8891 Where did you get this information? CNN or Whatsapp University 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣? In today's world, education is very important, as I just realised from your comment. So have some coffee and read some books on Islam. I hope you listen for your own benefit.
The “West” compared to what?? No “faith” on this planet damages or threatens freedom more than Islam. That’s my opinion and I’m ALLOWED to have it!!!! I’m not a person of ANY faith but can understand and support the opposition to it all!! Why are we still talking about this?!?. OMG!!!! Recognize our condition!!! Stop relating this to RELIGION!!! Please don’t speak of the problems humans have without considering the origin???…EMERGENCE of CONSCIOUSNESS???? !!!!!
I am a uneducated American currently residing temporary in Dublin Ireland and I have long conversations with Pakistanis, Brazilians, Greeks,Romanians, YOU NAME IT!
Point being most people from anywhere around the planet are willing to have interesting conversations of respect and abundance. Never believe the social media hate and divide.
True
If you want to debate islam let me know ;)
@@Truthseiker87 Yeah why was Muhammad possessed by a Djinn and his wife’s cousin told him it was the Angel Gabriel? Why was he unsure about his salvation if he is a Prophet of God?
Ok. Any klingon, lately?
Right
I`d like to thank my dad for busting my balls to learn english at the age of 8, because without that, I would have never gotten to experience conversations and knowledge like this.
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
@@hannawurst6064 Pauls letters to all and sunder, are not Christ speaking. Please let that sink in, and reflect.
My friend don'tplay ignorant !! Because the fact is that the Koran writer didn't even know what Christians believe in! And if Paul1or anotherhas corruptet the Bible in the 1st century or not, it doesn't change the fact that according to the Koran Allah has no idea about Christianity and that in the 7th century!!!
*Peter the apostle of Jesus himself confirms Paul's writings as Holy Scriptures!*
2 Peter 3:15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
@@hannawurst6064 really ng
Peterson is handling this discussion very well. His humility comes through and his message of being humble and peaceful is much needed in this conversation.
I Agree 100%
"give em hell"
@@zeadnasser4701 and he interviews the guy that said (I will choose a cow over 1.6 billion Muslims) and didn't interview not a single person to represent the other side, unfortunately, he's not the same he used to be like 1.5 years ago
Its the founding principal in Christianity. Whereas we see what the founding principal is in Islam that has birthed this young man Hijab - pride and religious superiority. Exactly what Jesus came to earth to END.
@Blkswan911 The Quran chapter 31, Verse 13 - 19, i can give more verses and more hadith, but one is enough.
I love how Jordan is completely open to talking and trying to understand anyone. More discourse like this is needed. Finding common ground.
They shouldn't be here
He says that he wants peace, but then goes on to storm Al-Aqsa compound with that robot sounding apartheid tribesmen creature. Rather what he wants is perennialism among Muslims and zionism for them. Did this interview happen before or after his storming of Al-Aqsa? Look up the video.
Also he was banned from twitter for annoying a girl that became a man right? So what does think of christianity that claims God became a man? Did God transition into an apartheid tribesmen creature? Is that why he stormed Al-Aqsa compound due to his belief that God belongs to the apartheid tribesmen's ethnicity?
he isn't really open if he says he won't embrace islam even if he was provided with the evidence.
@A.b.s how am I a troll?
I love that line. “I’m not going to say I’m here for tolerance, because tolerance means I know better than you but I will tolerate you”
Yes I agree..I love that too..
but we're expected to tolerate all kinds of ideas we don't agree with because we don't want to be perceived as dictators..
God wants us to come to him by knowledge not by force
This discussion is very inspirational
Other than you not better than you
Honestly though...what's wrong with saying that? No one believes what they believe because they think they are wrong. I think it is impossible to assume that you know better then someone else that has different ideas then you if, having met their ideas, you reject them.
Better to tolerate people you think are wrong. Better TO tell them they are wrong if asked about it! Be honest about the disagreements, and teach the world to not be offended by assumptions everyone makes.
Who said that here?
Timestamp?
This is what the world needs. I appreciate Dr. Jordan Peterson, Jonathan and Mohammed Hijab sitting at the same table and having a Real Talk, to an extent in which they have talked in this video. We need more of this! Not only from these fine souls, that are in search and pursuit of remedy, but from many others.. on all levels. This is the way forward. Bless to all
Ah yes, mohammad Hijab is most certainly a "fine soul".
You don't know much about him, do you?
@@magnumopus1628 you think both are perfect human beings. Dont gas light
@@commandar88 Hijab isn’t honest. He bashes the west constantly but lives in the west? He’s a hypocrite.
He’s a smoother moslem liar only . . .
@@commandar88 it's not about being perfect. This Hijab guy is open about his views about Pete do phelia and is very honest about apostates being killed. He apologizes for none of it, for which I am thankful for his honesty. Much better a snake wears it's own skin than coat itself with the wool of a sheep.
Well done, J Pageau for truly addressing the ' elephant in the room '... Inciting violence is wrong on all levels. You cannot pretend to be a true believer in your faith...Whichever that may be, when you are constantly showing yourself to be one sided and aggressive in your nature. May god bless us all. 🙏
he addressed that accusation, be sincere.
@@masana_ he was called out
He have no evidence tho, he said something entirely different than what I found
Jordan Peterson is so open and humble. A man of integrity. Canadian government needs to appreciate and be proud of this man!
Proud isn’t the best word, but yes they do need to appreciate who he is and what he has done. OR AT THE VERY LEAST give him some actual damn freedom of speech rights.
Luke 4 :24 And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
@@-xDarkxGhostx- good thing I have my muckers on.........lol
A World wide treasure!!
This is how a debate should unfold literally and not screaming and interrupting one another and not be able to speak, this is education at its finest, just beautiful for the ears.
Exactly. I noticed that only the people who know and are competent will debate without screaming at each other, but that's not always the case.
*here YHWH says in the Old Testament he is the son who was pierced in a prophecy! 6th century before Jesus Christ*
Zechariah 12,10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[1] of grace and supplication. They will look on[2] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
@@hannawurst6064 And again another scripture says "They shall look on HIM whom they have pierced."
We see clearly! In John 19:37 "" "" You will look at the one you have pierced «" "" But you only look at one according to Zechariah 12:10 and that is YHWH !!! You only look at YHWH!
So John 19:37 contradicts all newer versions of Zechariah 12:10 where another was pierced than YHWH !! YHWH speaks about this in Zechariah from his point of view and the apostles from the point of view of man! because you can see who you have pierced! And that's the one who says YOU LOOK AT ME !!! So the fact is YHWH says you look at ME !! And who are you looking at;). Exactly the one they pierced!
My friend according to textual criticism, the matter is clear! According to Zechariah, YHWH was pierced! because the Christian writings of Zechariah and the confirmation text in John are the oldest sources that exist!
Imagine if leaders from all walks of life and all religions could have intelligent, calm and respectful discussions like this each day how wonderful this world would be
Nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone for whatever you believe. I’m a Christian in training, wasn’t raised as a Christian, didn’t go to church, didn’t know God, just started about 4 years ago. I listen to all view points. Because of my experience 4 years ago with God and things God has shown me these last few years I know Jesus is not only my savior but God. I live by 3 rules (and probably don’t do them well). First I love God first, All other humans second, and I try to apply the Fruit of the Spirit to every conversation and everything I do. Communication is extremely important whether we agree or disagree, otherwise we have issues, communication is not trying to better someone or change someone THAT IS God’s plan and job. I’m an old guy and God didn’t need to use me until I 60. Sorry for the long conversation.
@@daisie222 "disagree" are just a word for u to make him look bad? people have their own belief, perspectives, theory, and anthing that is different since we are human and by u mean disagree does'nt mean he is ignorant, he makes his points and eloborate it rather than being (like u) no offense. a man who did'nt like to be disagreed by.
@@richardannaken no need to be sorry. it is admirable that u seek knowledge rather than be ignorant. i hope u can do research about muslims aswell it's quite interesting. A man that tolerate for anything protect nothing.
They’ve got WAY too many ulterior motives involving making money to ever care to agree.
@@richardannaken Interesting
Grateful to all the men involved with participating in difficult conversations. This takes something.
To be sitting in my living room and as a Christian in the US and listening to this amazing give and take conversation with Jordan, Mohammad Hijab and Jonathan on their religions is so heart warming. Having real conversations is what is going to help us all to live and work together as well as learn to respect one another for our differences. God Bless all of you all.
Basic Islam (*eg allah+Mohd+black stone…):
1. You have to believe in allah and equate a man by the name Mohammad next to him - idolatry;
2. You have to pray toward a rock that has a black stone in it - idolatry;
3. You have to give charity only to Muslim causes. You are not to support other causes. - But you claim Islam is a religion of peace and mercy. What a joke!
4. You have the fasting but when people cannot fast during the month, you pay somebody to fast on your behalf, and you earn righteousness! - But you deny what Christ Jesus did for you on the cross and His resurrection so that believers can get His righteousness (Rom4:25);
5. You go on perform the pilgrimage, but we heard what happened to the women (*being sexually abused) at the “holey place”. - Al Fadi
Jeremiah9:24but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and knows me, that I am the LORD who practices steadfast LOVE, justice, and righteousness in the earth. For in these things I delight, declares the LORD.”
@@hzjc9680 1- Yes, you have to believe in Allah and his messenger Mohammed(PBUH) and he is just a messenger and a prophet we do not consider him equal to Allah.
2- We pray towards the Kaaba and not worship the Kaaba, before our direction was changed to Kaaba the Mohammed (PBUH) and the Muslims at that time used to face Al-Aqsa Masjid which is in Jurusalem, and then Allah commanded them to face the Kaaba.
3-Muslims are not prohibited from giving charity to anyone unless they’re fighting against us.
4- You’re wrong again, someone cannot fast in your stead even if you pay them, you have to fast yourself and if you’re unable to because you’re traveling, sick, on menstrual cycle etc you make up for that fast by fasting in another month for how many fasts you missed and if you’re old, have a condition that makes you unable to fast because it puts you in danger you don’t have to fast instead you feed 1 person per day for how many fasts you missed, e.g you didn’t fast for 29 or 30 days in Ramadan you feed 29 or 30 people total 1 per day.
5- People who do atrocious acts like that when they’re at the holy place are the scum of earth and don’t fear Allah
That rarely happens.
Where did you even get your information from?
I’d like to know because wow everything you said is wrong
@@hzjc9680 you say the Jesus died for our sins, why? He could have just forgiven us if he’s god.
How can god die?
@@KingBugsBunny i dont think he is serious, just a hater. Most likely from america
What a wonderful discussion. I am Roman Catholic and I have many friends who are Muslim. We have been having similar conversations recently. These types of conversations are essential !!
@@alexanderspear9464 I'ts so hard for me to grasp the level of your ignorance and others like you.
@@alexanderspear9464 That’s a bold statement 😂 I’m not Christian but feel the need to say ‘Jesus’ to that
@@alexanderspear9464 exactly. No idea why people insist it's a religion capable of coinciding.
I know that there are peaceful Muslims out there. What I find very disconcerting though are these Commandments from the Quran: Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)." Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …" How can such a commandment be tolerated by anyone?
@@cyanidecapsule6275 Read Nicki’s comment.
“What you need most will be found where you least want to look” such a powerful quote
Was this a debate or a lecture. That muslim dude wouldn't shut up.
@@LeoCody1 I don't trust this Hijab guy for some reason. Reminds me of this Hindus in India
Point 1 is that Mummamod was born 600 years after Jesus Christ was crucified on the cross and both the old and New Testament had been around for all those years beforehand and so a lot of the Islamic book has so much of the holy bible within its pages or at least the shadow of God’s Word.
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
Islam is a driven oratory system in many instances (rather than idle discussion), so sometimes it can be mistaken for lecture due to the style of teaching. Nonetheless it's confidence is why it ended Christianity long ago in most places and left them with nothing but churches full of old losers. If you haven't noticed youth influencers are ALL Islamic. Be it Tiktok, or British majority influencers like Andrew Tate.
This is so refreshing to see two people with differing ideas having a respectful discussion whilst challenging each other’s ideas without losing their cool or responding with anger or threats. This is what the world needs.
One of my best friends in the world, who died tragically a few months ago at the age of 41 was Muslim. I still cry every time I think of him. We were two opposites, yet…we were brothers. In the truest sense of the meaning.
The debates we had were epic. But at the end of the day. We were brothers and and best friends. I miss that about him. What I would give to have him here to engage is this type of conversation again. This discussion should be cherished as a reminder that friendship and brotherhood transcends geography and faith.
Wow
It's early in the morning. It's too early to shed tears like this, Brother. But I am so sorry. I'm positive he is still keeping an eye on you. Being with you when you need him most. God Bless my friend. Go with the Father.
may Allah grant him the highest level of Jannah, If I may suggest that as an honor to your friend (and brother) you keep searching for the truth and search deep please, no pressure, I feel that a lot of people don't search/read enough, they try and hit the surface and then they delay and ignore till it's too late, sorry my English is not that good, may Allah bless you.
@@abdulsalamghazal9127 u
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Like i just told my son today ,"Always be willing to hear both sides of an argument and never let the conversation break down . As a society, we really do depend on each other, and it's taken centuries to get here !" ❤😊
I’m glad people instill this in themselves and their families. It’s quite beautiful in a world of chaos. I do have to note though that conversation does tend to break down still but there’s absolutely still hope.
Wish you two the best in life ❤
That is the very skill that has disappeared from universities: debate, discussion, apologetics, conversation. The whole reason for the existence of universities and town halls- inquiry, examination, development of new and better ways to conduct modes and methods of exploration- has been dispensed with only to have been replaced with myopic and soul-crushing oppression and ideological dogma. UA-cam is the new university, and it, too, is slowly being eroded.
i agree 💯
actually conversations like these and inter-faith debates used to happen in the Islamic golden age.
I absolutely adore Dr. Jordan Peterson. He just doesn't speak to be heard he feels his words very deeply and I think we need more men like him
I agree 🤗
What do u mean by "speak"?
What do u mean by "heard"?
What do u mean by "feels"?
@@burakcoskun38
what do you mean by "what"?
what do you mean by "do"?
what do you mean by "you"?
what do you mean by "mean"?
what do you mean by "by"?
@@shidoku7012 😂
I am a Christian who was raised Southern Baptist but now I am non-denominational.
I've always had questions about faith and religion and how it correlates to mine or how it doesn't but here's where I'm stumped:
In our Christian faith we are taught to honor our Mother & Father & so therefore in a lot of Christian households, we are taught about the Bible.
So how can we look at other religions as being "wrong" whenever they likely had a similar way of adopting religion (through family)?
I have met so many wonderful people from all different religions & it's incredibly hard to condemn someone for their religious beliefs because we can't even collectively define religion itself. Just to reiterate, I believe the Gospel but I would like someone from the Christian faith to explain to me how someone who was born Muslim and died Muslim who never knew Jesus will not be entering the Kingdom of Heaven???
Any thoughts on this would be welcomed.
I'm back to watch this because Jordan is the only person you ask one question and he speaks for 15 minutes uninterrupted and gets to the point in such an eloquent way.
Sometimes he distracts the topic. Look how straight Hijab is.
If you have a good intellect, you should be able to convey your message and idea in less words and phrases. You can see a lot of the time that Jordan Peterson is just beating around the bush trying to avoid a straight forward answer. This only shows his lack of confidence and belief in his own Ideas.
@@BePostitivenot necessarily. The person he’s debating is closed minded. Normally when you’re debating closed minded ppl it’s either a lost cause or you have to beat around the bush to get your message across. Reason being is that they won’t take the cold hard fact lightly
@@frostymusic9330 it seems that Jordan Peterson is the close minded from this video.
@@frostymusic9330 did you watch Jordan last interview with Elon Musk, he was doing the same thing he is doing in this video.
Thank you Jonathan Pageau!! I see Christ in you through your humility of letting others speak first! James 1:19 "Let every person be quick to hear and slow to speak"
Love him❤
Love him❤
@@AC-mp7cx I care when people interrupt during a conversation. Who does NOT care? Conversations should be civil ..and a rule of civil discourse is: Do not interrupt.
@@Featherfinder he needed to interrupt to call MH on his bs
Hence why God gave us 2 ears and one mouth lol
MH's willingness to let Dr. Peterson talk at length is MUCH appreciated.
That’s a low bar but given his record it’s understandable.
Hijab failed to understand this strategy from JP thats how JP weaseled his way out of all the questions and constantly interrupted hijab
Dishonest as expected
@@xGAMER_chimpX JP Waffled and Waffled and Waffled and .....
@@jagoman85 he sure did.
@@jagoman85 perhaps if you had understood more what he was saying it wouldn’t have been waffle?
The Viktor Frankl book that Mohammed Hijab is referencing is called “Man’s search for Meaning”, and it’s one of the most important books I’ve read. Highly recommend it.
I will second this, incredible book
Third
Fourth! Changed the manner in which I view life.
Dr Peterson mentioned this book few years ago, certainly one of the best books he's recommending
@@tadija007 He did, this motivated me to read it. I'm sure it's listed on his website too, alongside many other superb books.
This is an indescribably necessary and beautiful exchange. I'm glad you all allowed this to take place!
0:00: 🗣 The speaker discusses the importance of initiating dialogue and understanding between people of different religious faiths, emphasizing the need to focus on commonalities rather than differences.
10:36: 🗣 The speaker discusses the importance of engaging in difficult discussions and exploring different perspectives in order to find common ground and address historical atrocities.
20:04: 🗣 The speaker discusses the complex issue of responsibility for colonial past and offers an alternative perspective to the notion that the ideology of the West can fix all problems.
28:51: ✨ The speaker discusses the purpose of life and the importance of unity and humility in faith.
36:37: 🎶 The discussion explores the role of worship, ritual, and music in fostering unity and integration within communities, highlighting the importance of celebrating and praising a higher power.
46:05: 📚 The discussion revolves around the concept of truth, unity, and the compatibility of Christianity and scientific narratives.
55:26: 📚 The speaker discusses the centrality of the figure of Christ in different religious traditions and the significance of symbolic interpretation in Christianity.
1:04:21: 🤔 The speaker discusses the complexities of belief, perception, and interpretation in relation to questions about God and texts.
1:13:05: 💡 The speaker discusses the psychological perspective on why people are drawn to the crucifixion story and the concept of confronting tragedy and hell in life.
1:23:05: 📚 Discussion on the power of belief, unity, and the evidence for Prophet Muhammad's prophethood.
1:32:40: 📚 The speaker discusses various prophecies and beliefs related to Islam and evaluates the concept of proof in faith.
Recap by Tammy AI
Thank you so much for this🙌❤️💯💯
You have done so well.
I need to book a class with u to learn how to paraphrase perfectly. U are awesome 👍
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Thank you for this practical information! :-)
Spectacular 😮
all of you spoke beautifully.. There is no winner except for those listening.. Thank you all
The US's 'Founding Fathers', already tried this approach of 'attempt to understand the muslim jackals, who kept killing & enslaving non-islamics indiscriminantly & without mercy or for amy apparent sane reason.
They were told that that's how it's written in the q'ran & haddiths, that's how it'll remain.
The result was a ban on muslims withim the US. Infortunately, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham & 1 or 2 other retards removed yhay law, in the 60's or 70's. That's treason & punishable by death.
muslims are blooded from an early age & are raised to - expected to inflict fear, terror & atrocities upon the infidels via the 7 types of jihad, on every occassion, while being taught to deceive manipulate & destroy everything that wasn't made via allah.
Look up taharoosh/taharuush.
The way muslims achieve their halal food, is the same way the satanist elites get their adrenalin packed blood from tortured children before they're killed.
They both pray to the devil & get along like a house on fire. To understand the reason why they always act like cut snakes, search for video & text on halal, adrenalin, epi-pen & adrenochrome processes.
All are part of the global cabal & must be forced to leave our countries - receive the penalty of death, if they don't comply.
What do you mean "all"? Whatt do you mean "spoke"? What do you mean "beautifully"?
@@lillebror1567 Lmao
The aim of an argument shouldn't be victory, but progress.
@@ahsanha9838 Neither to go into meaningless semantics about what simple words mean. JP thinks he can define what a woman is, but not words like "do", "you" or "believe".
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is quite literally the gift that keeps on giving. 🙌🏽 THANK YOU 🙏🏽
Pakistan is a terrorist state
A gem from
Canada
Also he was banned from twitter for annoying a girl that became a man right? So what does think of christianity that claims God became a man? Did God transition into an apartheid tribesmen creature? Is that why he stormed Al-Aqsa compound due to his belief that God belongs to the apartheid tribesmen's ethnicity?
He says that he wants peace, but then goes on to storm Al-Aqsa compound with that robot sounding apartheid tribesmen creature. Rather what he wants is perennialism among Muslims and zionism for them. Did this interview happen before or after his storming of Al-Aqsa? Look up the video.
@levi your comment is fire
"making peace" same man said "Give them hell" when war started
was talking about hamas tbf
@@shaibujoshua3799 and after 40 thousand innocent died have we heard anything from him??
@@pac-ice-tan806 he did condemn the killing of innocent life or what more can he do
Peterson is suffering from the evangelical BS religion to believe that Israeli are sinless god's chosen and therefore have immunity and all rights to commit genocides and warcrimes.
He was right then too
One quote that sums the whole conversation
"Stop asking if I believe in God; watch me." -Pageau
Agreed. The word “Iman” in Islam, which is often incompletely translated as “faith” or “belief”, actually encompasses faith in the heart, affirmation with the tongue and manifestation in action. Without all components, one’s “Iman” is considered incomplete.
@@a4482921 great reminder, but it shows it should be on all levels.. because the real intention is so important for why a person doing what he is doing.. is it fame, power, wealth, satisfy getting attention, need to feel important, satisfy his mom or doing good (but what better than goodness that our creater is asking us to do ) thats how I see it.. but eventually the only one know our real intention is our creator who knows what in our hearts
@dianakhayal7816 we believe that too, it's actually explicitly said by the prophet peace be upon him "Actions are judged by intentions", and the guy who commented said the first thing is "faith in the heart", so all 3 things he mentioned should be present
This is what happens when you have a difference of opinion, get heated, STAY in the room and LISTEN to the others WHY. Loved this.
I'd argue that it wasn't even really "heated." They all seemed to enjoy the discourse
What to study as well as Online Resources as new Muslims or even old ones
Quran itself and the Sunnah. Old Scholars near that time
1. Sapiance Institute
2. Dr Zakir Naik lectures
3. IslamHouse
4. Ahmed Deedat
5. Islamqa info
6. Masjid Ribat channel by sheikh Uthman ibn Farooq
7. Blogging Theology
8. Smile2Jannah
9. MuslimSkeptic
10. Farid speaks gives good book recommendations
11. Check local mosques they sometimes have awesome books
12. Google islamic books and bookstores and get book recs by farid speaks. Conquest of the Sahaba by Al Imam Al waqidi is one
Singular great videos
1. Hamza Tzortis vs Lawerence Krauss (4 million)
2. AustiN School, *"How Islam Saved the West",* *"Khalid Ibn walid profile of a Warrior"* (1.1 million)
3. Muslim, christian, jew a conversation (7 million views)
4. Mehdi Hassan, Islam is Peace (9.9 million views)
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The 2 main differences between Christianity:
1) -Yeshua claimed to be (and in fact, is) God.
-Mohammed's brother declared him to be a prophet.
2) -Yeshua instructed His followers to spread the gospel by simply telling everyone, not by force.
- Mohammed set the example for his followers by leading them in rampages across Arabia, killing some and making slaves of others who refused to convert.
@@kimberlypearce3732 ^ *forgets colonialism, nazis, kkk, crusaders, americans and russian nazis in the Muslim lands genocidin*
Also atheists *Uyghur genocide, stalin, and Mao, Nanking*
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!*
To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
I've been an athiest all 32 years of my life, more attracted to science and things that I can see or prove. To the point I've debated people in the past about how stupid the idea of a god is.
Recently, I began to find myself being more and more interested in religion. I've no idea why, I just know that I felt a calling to learn more. Now baring in mind that I've been staunchly against the existence of a god, I started to get this strange feeling when I was doing things. The feeling of being watched. The feeling of being judged on my actions. As crazy as this sounds in words, I began to think to myself "he's watching. I shouldn't be doing this."
I also began to get this feeling of presence. Like no matter what I'm doing there's a presence next to me and I'm apologising for certain things.
If you've lived my life, you'd understand how crazy it sounds to me to be apologising in my head to God. As I walk, as I work, no matter what I'm doing it's all I'm thinking about. Apologising for all the people I've hurt in my life and hoping I'm forgiven.
Even as I sit typing right now, I can feel a presence watching over me and it's almost to the level I feel like I'm typing this to spread the word. To open up someone else's eyes.
I also started reading the bible not too long ago, and again, if you knew the life I was from you'd understand how crazy it is to even have a bible, it really was a huge step. Every single person in my life is completely non religious and would laugh if they seen my bible. I've had recent conversations where workmates have laughed off the idea of a god, they think the idea is something to mock religious people over. I didn't defend it. I didn't tell them i was religious. I didn't challenge them and I've found myself feeling riddled with guilt that I never.
One of the arguments was "I grew out of religion when I was about 12 when i realised Santa wasn't real either."
Unfortunately, I don't have the wisdom, or the information to defend or debate it right now, but I will have, eventually.
Full disclosure, I still don't fully know if I'm Christian, I still have doubts, I'm still very much unsure what this journey is. But hopefully it starts to become clearer and clearer over the next few years.
If if you've made it this far, thank you! I really appreciate your time🙂
why dont u try looking into islam
@@birdybilal6780because Jesus is the best God to look up onto, and has actually historical evidence.
Islam believe in hearsay what 1 man said.
Pray the sinners prayer by inviting Jesus into your heart, confess your sins to him and ask him to come into your heart save your by the blood of Jesus. And you are save . Ask God to show Himself to you.
Very similar life experience… there is a tremendous value in the teachings of Jesus and Christianity. Recently joined the Catholic Church… I have a duality in my mind, that it all could be made up and it could all be literally real… the fact I show up and opened myself to Christianity has been very rewarding still. Islam, however, after spending countless hours, days, weeks into learning about it… “Islam dies without lies” and we have to stop being polite about this dangerous perversion of Christianity and Judaism.
where are you at now on this journey?
"The Purpose is to be united with God"
That's Powerful.
Through the right path! Not discussed is it???
Only through Christ is that possible
@@monicacosby4605 No surprises there
This is the most intense yet calm and respectful talk I've ever seen
Kudos to Mohammed Hijab 🎉🎉🎉👍👏
He is intelligent & eloquent with an exceptionally high level of Emotional Quotient.
His perspective is extremely grounded , level-headed , highly rational , focussed , organised & systematic.
I was a fan of Jordan Peterson so I do respect him & his ideas.
For this video , unfortunately & disappointedly , every time he goes on his elongated tangent to a simple & straightforward question , I cannot help but visualise him ...
In a toga , floating around among the clouds , flitting from cloud to cloud & holding a harp but not playing it ....BECAUSE ....
he does not know how to play it ‼️
He is merely holding the harp for CLOUT AMONG THE CLOUDS ‼️‼️‼️🤦♀️
Sad to say , this makes him look like ....
An EMPTY CAN .... MAKING THE MOST NOISE ‼️‼️‼️🤦♀️
@@aryafaaz9345your bias is showing. 😂🔥👍
@@aryafaaz9345 Would it be more accurate if you said "I could not follow what Jordan Peterson was speaking about?" Surely, you're making a lot of noise yourself, you know?
@@aryafaaz9345 Dude, that's not a football game. Get that 'my team vs. the other team' Hype out of here.
Hmmm, shall we guessyour identity based on your biases?
I met a wonderful friend in college, and was blessed to have a similar type conversation with her, in private. She is black, I am white. We were close enough to ask each other every question about the differences we have experienced without embarressment, shame, or mincing words. She remains a blessing in my life. I understand so much more now...
If we all had that, itd be the end of racism in this country.
Can I take to dinner both of you?
@@ghostrider2664 yeah if you want to stop the racism stop separating black/white people and all those ,, representation " shit are bullshit
What was the subject matter? Fried chicken and looting ? You must have gained so much enlightenment from a people with an average IQ of 85.
Still friends?
My take away on this video is when Jordan tells us that by volunteering to confront our fears even if we're not calm it changes us to become braver around other things that cause us fear and not manifest that fear elsewhere. Thank you for this takeaway.
This dude switched and supports Hamas later lol 😂it was all a fucken joke
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS are you sure you posted this reply in the right place? Very out of context
He goes deep into that in his book 12 rules for life. Good read
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS he supports his new massive paycheck.
Civility vs Barbarism dressed in a suit. Inquisitiveness vs False flattery. Depth of soul vs Regurgitation of others.
Well said
He's very spiteful. If you've seen him "debating" rabbi shmuley, as disagreeable as shmuley is, hijab mocked his daughter... Says a lot about him
Barbarism my ass what about the guy that literally said give em hell
Funny how you turn a blind eye to those you like
@@tom2443 for context refer to what rabbi unholy shmuley says to Muslims, if a particular group of muslim is responsible for a catastrophe it doesnt automatically justify inherent radicality of a religion, well thats very obvious unless you're intellectually molested and intellectually subservient. "says alot about him" cmon, dont embarrass yourself, this is a middle highschooler argument . "give em hell" explain that, consider arguing that lol
@@HOLD_MY_BEERUS What is wrong with saying "give em hell"? Hamas deserve the hell they themselves created.
Not enough Jonathan Pageau! He is definitely the best listener. Love the discourse on music. Also the discussion about belief which must be lived-not only professed. These discussions need to be continued.
Jonathan posted a video on his channel explaining why he was the way he was in this discussion. He read Mohammad correctly.. you should go check it out.
@@WelcomeToJ just watched it. He's a very wise man!
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!*
Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!!
Philippians 2:5-8
@@WelcomeToJ here on YT or his website? I didn't see it. Love to see it. Please pass on where to find.
Jonathan is a muslim?
People of faith need to talk to each other directly like this.
Is Peterson a man of faith ? I don’t think so - always patronizing from his ivory tower of self right dictation
Faith in what ?
He’s a Christian
@@terradargana3301I think he has a lot of respect for the British style reformations - Scottish and English Presbyterianism. And how influential it has been on western culture etc
Check out exodus
I'm a Muslim, and this is the first time I hear Dr, Jordan speaking. And oh boy, he one of a character and thinker! And it was such an enjoyable talk between the three ❤️. I was moved when Dr, Jordan almost cryed at the end. I'm waiting for another talk like this in the future insha Allah ❤️
Do not be fooled by his symmetrical face and beautiful artculation. He is a Hypocrites and Zionist
Associating with you fools is what's going to bring JBP down. It's not the gender debate, not the climate change. It's associating with this dude Hijab who's on video asking a group of people to attack non-believers.
What do you think about quran 4:171?
Jesus a WORD Himself became Flesh and dwelt amongst us is God❤
I didn’t watch yet, but I will. I’m not religious, and I don’t believe in god. I believe in humanity, and goodness within. I think that is what we should pay reverence to. I also believe we are one big family, and our differences are just outwardly. We are all brothers, and sisters. I don’t need any other teaching, because goodness lives in my heart, and I’m trying to not be afraid of dying. I believe our only chance in life is the present. I believe when we die, we simply go back to our elemental earth. There is no saviour.
We waste time in that belief, and fight amongst ourselves…FOR NOTHING, and certainly not for good.
@@patriciakeats1621 Forget Family and all!
You by yourself will stand on the day of judgement!
Goodness is God and the Righteousness is God!
There is a light there is a darkness so similarly,
If there is good then theres evil! And evil is contrary to God!
Believe in Jesus Christ and be saved get baptized!
👏 👏 👏 It is evident how skilled a conversationalist and how professional Peterson is. This conversation could have gone off the rails a couple of times as was evident with the beginning of some questions and comments- but our man reigned it back on to a more productive course .❤ Amazing to experience!
He was soooo shaky (weak) when he came back in the public eye after almost dying from kicking benzos. Man, does he ever bring the fire and thunder......now that he has healed some. My God, it warms my soul! God bless, the Good Doctor!
It's inspiring to see someone overcome all kinds of unbelievably difficult adversities and then to rise back to the top, living by his own advice.
Bravo, Dr. Peterson. Bravo. ❤ God bless.
😑Jordan is 💨 running from reality. He won't accept truth even if it was proven to him. This just shows his lack of sincerity. But he will cry on cue. ISLAM is the truth, but he refuses to accept because of his ego.
@@equityjustice2695 I'm not sure where you're coming from... it kind of sounds like you're forcing him to unquestionably adopt a religion that comes from a culture very different to his own. Is that truth?
@@equityjustice2695 You don't know for a fact that Islam is the truth, just like how no one on this earth knows all truths. Dogmatism was discussed in this video and you are displaying it clearly now! JP is plenty sincere and your letting your own beliefs cloud an objective judgement
@@SM_zzz that's not what I wrote?🤷♂️ Where did you get forcing anything on anyone. 🤔 Maybe your biases are projecting thoughts into your mind.
As a christain I have made respect for all 3 of you. This was a FASCINATING discussion such professional people politely disagreeing and having the most intelectual discussions. BRAVO
What do you think of the Muslim world wiew? Will they see heaven?
I'm sorry you don't know Mr Hijab.
Your not
@@StallionFernando
The bible tells us only through Christ
The fact that they are delusional seems to not face you at all.
This conversation was long needed. These 3 people were probably the best to have the conversation. This also shows the world how different views can sit and have a good time while disagreeing. Thank you
but most of these views cant be expressed in certain parts of "the world"...
@@elingrome5853 Those parts of "the world" have expressed these views had these conversations and conducted debates/discussions when royalties in Europe couldn't read their own names
@@islamicsensei These discussions will always happen as long as different religions exist. These conversations are rare and it being streamed for the public makes it even more rare. It's amazing and hopefully more conversations like this will take place for the public.
The point is that we often start the discussion badly.
Patience. ❤
I hope we get many more discussions like this; and that Jordan won’t be the only social glue that will hold together the disagreeable Jonathan & disagreeable Mohammed 👍
Hijab is not well equipped at all...only two people were here to understand and the other was only geared to convert. It will be quite some time before Mojab gets it.
But in Mojab's lack of sincere engagement, we at least understand that Fundamental Muslims will oft express no particular position in understanding/appreciating the other...only to correct/bring the other into order..This is telling, leaving us with the question...will fundamental Islam ever have the ability to engage in equivalence...?
Blind faith isn't faith, doesn't matter if you're a muslim or a Christian. Unexamined faith isn't faith.
Imagine a world where our political leaders had conversations like this. Thank you JPB, Pageu, and Mohamad
Kill the clowns 🤡 and replace them with logic
Imagine if they were our politicians.
@@robbiewhite8383 imagine if politicians weren’t all talking out of their ass..
@@robbiewhite8383 Jesus, no thx. this idiot Muhammad would oppose sharia.. and we will end up like in iran.
No thx.
*Muhammad
Thank you to all three of you. This is the conversation we should all be having to love and appreciate each other.
Nobody came to an agreement an the Muslim as cocky an arrogant as he may be didn’t even provide an facts an doesn’t know who Jesus really was, Muslims contradict themselves when it comes to Jesus an for hibjab to say provide the evidence an doesn’t accept when provided makes him look unintelligent an ignorant especially the part where they were gonna go off topic to prove hijab wrong but he didn’t want the smoke 1:09:32, for him to save they believe in Jesus an his miracles but not believe he is the son of God is mind blowing, no other person has done miracles in the Quran yet they go beating around the bush an pretending like they have truth but they go by the Old Testament that was before Jesus Christ & pick an choose what makes sense to them instead of the entire story which is ridiculously selfish
They say Mohammed saw a vision of the revaluation from an angel but in the Bible Galatians chpt 1: vs8-9 it clearly says that we shouldn’t believe in anything other than what God has told us an clearly that’s not what Muslims do, yet they’ll pick an choose what’s best for them 😂 absolutely absurd fallacy
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!*
Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!!
Philippians 2:5-8
Every few minutes into watching this conversation I kept feeling compelled to liking the video, just to realize once again that I had already done so!
Allah Glory to him said:”Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.-72-Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment.-73-Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.-74- The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food.1 See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!-75- Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “How can you worship besides Allah those who can neither harm nor benefit you? And Allah ˹alone˺ is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”-76- Say, “O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes in your faith beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of those who went astray before ˹you˺. They misled many and strayed from the Right Way.”-77- The disbelievers among the Children of Israel were condemned in the revelations of David and Jesus, son of Mary. That was for their disobedience and violations.-78- They did not forbid one another from doing evil. Evil indeed was what they did!-79- You see many of them taking the disbelievers1 as allies. Truly wicked are their misdeeds, which have earned them Allah’s wrath. And they will be in everlasting torment.-80- Had they believed in Allah, the Prophet, and what has been revealed to him, they would have never taken those ˹pagans˺ as allies. But most of them are rebellious-81- You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant.-82- When they listen to what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears for recognizing the truth. They say, “Our Lord! We believe, so count us among the witnesses.-83- Why should we not believe in Allah and the truth that has come to us? And we long for our Lord to include us in the company of the righteous.”-84-So Allah will reward them for what they said with Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there forever. And that is the reward of the good-doers.-85-“ Al-Maida Al Quran Al-Kareem
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful
Allah Glory to him said:
Indeed, Allah chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Imrân [father of Mary] above all people. -33- They are descendants of one another. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. -34- ˹Remember˺ when the wife of ’Imrân said, “My Lord! I dedicate what is in my womb entirely to Your service,1 so accept it from me. You ˹alone˺ are truly the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” -35-When she delivered, she said, “My Lord! I have given birth to a girl,”-and Allah fully knew what she had delivered-“and the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary, and I seek Your protection for her and her offspring from Satan, the accursed.”-36- So her Lord accepted her graciously and blessed her with a pleasant upbringing-entrusting her to the care of Zachariah. Whenever Zachariah visited her in the sanctuary, he found her supplied with provisions. He exclaimed, “O Mary! Where did this come from?” She replied, “It is from Allah. Surely Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit.”-37- Then and there Zachariah prayed to his Lord, saying, “My Lord! Grant me-by your grace-righteous offspring. You are certainly the Hearer of ˹all˺ prayers.”-38- So the angels called out to him while he stood praying in the sanctuary, “Allah gives you good news of ˹the birth of˺ John who will confirm the Word of Allah and will be a great leader, chaste, and a prophet among the righteous.”-39- Zachariah exclaimed, “My Lord! How can I have a son when I am very old and my wife is barren?” He replied, “So will it be. Allah does what He wills.” -40- Zachariah said, “My Lord! Grant me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not ˹be able to˺ speak to people for three days except through gestures. Remember your Lord often and glorify ˹Him˺ morning and evening.”-41- And ˹remember˺ when the angels said, “O Mary! Surely Allah has selected you, purified you, and chosen you over all women of the world. -42- O Mary! Be devout to your Lord, prostrate yourself ˹in prayer˺ and bow along with those who bow down.”-43- This is news of the unseen that We reveal to you ˹O Prophet˺. You were not with them when they cast lots to decide who would be Mary’s guardian, nor were you there when they argued ˹about it˺.-44- ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word1 from Him, his name will be the Messiah,2 Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.-45- And he will speak to people in ˹his˺ infancy and adulthood and will be one of the righteous.” -46- Mary wondered, “My Lord! How can I have a child when no man has ever touched me?” An angel replied, “So will it be. Allah creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, ‘Be!’ And it is! -47- And Allah will teach him writing and wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,-48- and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird-by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life-by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe. -49- And I will confirm the Torah revealed before me and legalize some of what had been forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be mindful of Allah and obey me. -50- Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.’” -51- When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.” -52- ˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.” -53- And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned-and Allah is the best of planners.-54- ˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes. -55- As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers. -56- And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.” -57- We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder. -58- Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! -59- This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt. -60- }} Al-Imaran Al-Quran Al-Kareem
I was a Muslim for a little over a year and then turned my back on God for a long time, and was Athiest, and then after a while I found Christ. As a Christian I will always look at and treat Muslims with great respect. I really admire how pious and devout almost all of them are. I love my Muslim brothers and I am trying to bring peace between Muslims and Christians. We are both brothers of God. God bless you all 🙏✝🤝☪
Sensible tolerant dialogue is the "ONLY" way for humanity to move forward. Kudos to both of these great men.
I respect all 3 of these gentlemen for their bravery and humility to enter into this kind of a discussion in the quest for truth and peace. Bravo.
@D B because all 3 here are against someone with your mentality .. your way too low for the bigger picture
one of them wants to behead those who went astray from his ideology, guess which one is it.
@@suluklu DB is not wrong though. But one should respect all three for the fair conversation. Still I won't call it an honest conversation coz I hv seen hizab's dark side. For him everything comes down to "would you like to accept Islam?"
@@prabhatbiharipandey1441 regardless I listened to all sides and found both sides sincere on their agenda. Beautiful dialogue which is rear but it was pretty short. I believe speakers did benefit from each other too
@@suluklu yes agree.. dialogue, debate and discussion is important as we call it 'Shastrartha' in Indian tradition.
Listening to JP’s conversations is fast becoming my favourite part of preparing dinner. Respectful dialogue is really relaxing. Much gratitude for this.
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The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "He whose last words are: `La ilaha illallah' (There is no true god except Allah) will enter Paradise.''
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Same here - I listen when washing up or cooking/menial tasks
MUHAMMAD WAS A LYING FALSE PROPHET.
JESUS IS KING
Mohammed Hijab bringing in the views!!! Great guest
Literally the worst guest. I’m surprised he was tame here. He is absolutely belligerent talking to anyone else.
@@alternativetext5262womp womp I think differently clearly
Dr. Peterson always gets views.
Conversations like this are all too rare. I thank these three people for gathering here.
Christian’s who prefer modern liberalism over Islam are much further away from Jesus’ teachings than Muslims are
this guy Hijab is a big mess. He is a trouble maker.
@@amitdangwal3041 why ?
@@akrlafoleak5168he’s a Hindu. They think from their ass don’t worry
@@amitdangwal3041guys don't mind him he's a Hindu they have a natural hate for muslims
I would be perfectly fine seeing these discussions extended or added to in the future. We have more in common than we don't. Educational.
The US's 'Founding Fathers', already tried this approach of 'attempt to understand the muslim jackals, who kept killing & enslaving non-islamics indiscriminantly & without mercy or for amy apparent sane reason.
They were told that that's how it's written in the q'ran & haddiths, that's how it'll remain.
The result was a ban on muslims withim the US. Infortunately, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham & 1 or 2 other retards removed yhay law, in the 60's or 70's. That's treason & punishable by death.
muslims are blooded from an early age & are raised to - expected to inflict fear, terror & atrocities upon the infidels via the 7 types of jihad, on every occassion, while being taught to deceive manipulate & destroy everything that wasn't made via allah.
Look up taharoosh/taharuush.
The way muslims achieve their halal food, is the same way the satanist elites get their adrenalin packed blood from tortured children before they're killed.
They both pray to the devil & get along like a house on fire. To understand the reason why they always act like cut snakes, search for video & text on halal, adrenalin, epi-pen & adrenochrome processes.
All are part of the global cabal & must be forced to leave our countries - receive the penalty of death, if they don't comply.
I would also love to see more of a conversation, discussion, in detail and dissected , of the common grounds.
The good humor in this video keeps it wholesome and almost fun. The restraint to not be offended from all of these men is very impressive.
I agree! The decision not to take anything personally and speak for a higher purpose means that petty things are moved past quickly and actually are taken in good humour. Good point!
onereason d o t org
There is nothing to get upset about unless you can’t think critically enough to understand why someone may think a certain way,even if you think the opposite!!Its not necessarily that you agree,but you can see where they are coming from ,and then you just agree to disagree!!That in itself can move us forward and come to a common ground,if you are mad,you don’t grasp,you don’t accept and you go into your respective corners and the problem never gets solved!!!
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!*
Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!!
Philippians 2:5-8
Let's also appreciate this conversation would probably be illegal to have or broadcast in quite a few Muslim countries.
I have NEVER heard the name of Mohamed used in casting out demons... But I know they flee by the power in the name of Jesus!
Amen. Jesus Name its the only one Name that has power in the whole univers.
Uhm, because you watch American Movies? ... also because Muslims call the name of God not his prophets Mohammed or Jesus.
Because everything happens by the permission and will of the only true God, The Father. Muslims refer to the father as Allah.
You realize Muslim’s do ruqya in the name of allah to cast out jinns?
you comment is proof u don't know about islam. The Messiah himself said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord.
Can you please meet and have these kind of coversations consistently, and have a topic to discussion each time? Because we need more of these conversations.
He has a lot of these conversations.
Yes, we need everyone to participate though. Because we live in democratic seystems
Yes. Without Jonathon. The man just stayed silent and refused to engage the whole time, especially when Hijab gave objective and rational criticism to Christian doctrines. Pathetic. Why was he invited? Lmao. Invite someone else.
I don’t see that philosophy most of the time and philosophy is waist of time and this is the real problem with Dr. Peterson he is good in his psychology knowledge but regarding religion he is kind of lost cause religion must be combined with reasoning and facts and evidences in addition to spiritual faith
There are 109 verses bringing wrath and death to unbelievers in the Koran. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
Such a great discussion. I hope these 3 men can have more discussions in the future and with more time.
Christianity and Islam is religion of the East. Birthplace of the people and events happened in the East. Native American, Mexico, South America and indigenous people are religions of the West. Geographically. I’m not educated on that level of those people and they don’t even know the basics. Are you sure they have an IQ of 180+??! and university level???
Sorry, but I can’t take this conversation seriously now but I’m open to listen. Respectfully.
@UCVCWeR_4mXbAqRYLuf1Rsiw I hope less ppl like you sees this , just by the very first few seconds you made a negative assumption😂 .You belong to twitter my guy
Islam is a vision for life. It is a system for how to live on this planet with 7+ billion human beings and make sure everyone is taken care of. It makes heroes out of boys and it makes scholars out of mothers. This Deen of Islam is the correct solution for life, and the Secular system is man made garbage. if the conversation was more focused on solutions, then the discussion would be far less about subjective views and beliefs. or random claims like "i will look at this as a psychologist" or "no I would not accept something with enough proven evidence". In the end, This video ends up being great youtube click content for likes and followers.
@@MA-gv3wg I don’t think they were speaking in geographical terms when they say “Christianity and Islam are religions of the west”. I think they are speaking statistically with regards to the amount of people in the west that either identify as a Christian or a Muslim.
@@MA-gv3wg You simply did not understand what was mentioned.
And Islam, as a Muslim, we would never call it a religion of any specific place except that of the entire Earth.
So would a Christian, of his/her belief.
The topic at hand here, simply was in reference to the amount of people in it. As in those are the two major beliefs, in the West.
This professor is blessed with wisdom and understanding
It’s sad how little we heard from Jonathan Pageau… I feel like his insight would’ve helped this conversation a lot!
Hijab doesn’t want to hear his point of view, probably didn’t help himself with the early accusations although warranted.
To be honest with you he seemed more interested in listening rather than talking, dude was enjoying it. At least this is what it looked like to me.
@@samuelneill8628 maybe, but really?
@@emadibrahim7875 sorry I don’t understand what you’re asking
@@samuelneill8628 He’s asking of how more could your stupidity peak?
Find one person in the world who's trying like Mr Peterson to understand humans like he does. Thank you Jordan Peterson my sons will learn a lot about you Sir!
Please, we were this way. You think that's special? Lol I kinda feel bad for you. And if he had a sincere hunger for truth, he would have been a Muslim decades ago. Ego also plays a huge part (and working on its destruction).
@@findtruth5329 that's your opinion...thank you, but I'm keeping mine.
@@findtruth5329 not everyone who search for the truth will become a Muslim, some get lost even more, that's why we ask god for guidance.
Name one? OK: Lex Fridman.
@@rafaelmugnainimartins7502 I didn't ask you to change yours but you're welcome anyway! I see the people who love Peterson; pseudo-intellectuals who don't actually know what's going on but.. I mean.. it sounds like he knows what he's talking about! Oh I can't wait for you to find out lol
I'm almost a below average student, but when i listen to talks like these and watch documentaries, i feel i learn more, more than school offers, not that I'm dismissing the importance of school, but i love when people speak without the media and world pollution involved, it's really really amazing
If you’re interested in talks such as this, it’s obvious that you’re intelligent and curious. “Don’t let your schooling get in the way of your learning.”- said by someone smart. Read more and continue to seek knowledge.
@@omowhanre thank you
If this discussion speaks to you, try looking into Blogging Theology channel. There are bunch of topics of theism and even more specifically in depth on Islam being discussed at length.
peterson is a psuedo-intellect by definition. You'd get alot more listening to an actual intellect instead of these two.
You're not dismissing the importance of education, by pointing out the monotony of indoctrination, and the oppression of free creative thinking, within the modern education system.
Jordan my brother how brother Mohammed said violence after you schooled him was a low blow. The Lord 👑🪽 gave you competent wisdom. As a witness to this conversation am proud of the way you word every reply or action for a reply is unbelievably respectful ! Bless everyone watching and brother Mohammed for attending this debate. Love when you both get together and relay to one another it teaches us so much and the information contained in valuable information. Thank you all kindly. We are all siblings and should treat each other this way. Agree 💯 brother Jonathan when comes to original sin, we choose to sin it is not someone's choice on our behalf !!!
5:08 Tolerance presumes I know what I’m doing.
7:15 We’re gonna stumble into each other.
14:59 Colonialism
16:22 The Evil Uncle motif
• Willful Blindness
• “All of us walk on blood soaked ground.”
Conquistadores
19:44 One soul should not bear the consequences of another’s actions.
23:43 Masked Men
Me the Individual
And The Religion
27:02 The Moral Foreigner
30:45 Higher Unity
33:07 Thrown Into Life
34:50 We Reject Original Sin
38:44 Music, layers of harmony
49:55 Positive
52:59 Human & Divine Nature
54:48 Christ is contentious
Diologos - diolouge
58:06
1. Jesus Christ Existed/Did Not exist
2. Christ Raised The Dead/Did Not
1:02:25 A Perpetual Story, Eternal Battle of Spirit
1:04:04 What do you mean by “Did it happen?”
1:05:30 _”Its really hard to believe that you’re disagreeable.”_
1:08:36 Problem: Multiplicity of Perception
1:12:23 Why this story not that story?
1:15:07 Bravery
1:16:40 Why do people go to horror movies?
• Lost in the desert
• losing faith
• getting bitter means getting bitten
• very often God does not call off the snakes
• (Look to Hope in the face of Catastrophe?) 1:21:53 bad stuffs gonna come at you, confront and contend with it
Patient and Thankful
1:24:34 Different Spirits in Struggle
Gulag [Stanford Prison]
Genuine Striving
1:27:21 If I could show Reasonable Evidence, would you change your mind?
1:34:33 Honor
How hard do you shine ✨?
Thanks
Thank you.
I love u bro. Such a good job. Keep up the work brotha! ❤
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!*
To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;*
as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
What a great conversation. The fact they are all disagreeable makes for a deeper dive into discussion. And the fact they are not offended to the point of anger or resentment makes for a stable conversation. Firm yet respectful is what is lacking in this world today.
Very well worded and true. I, along with many others im guessing, was dismissive of his attempts at first and assumed it was a one off attempt/video but im very happy to see his persistent and genuinely desires, at least a quasie, theistic unity
That room really needed someone like Matt Dillahunty in it, too, to make for a more fair and balanced world view. Because all the jabs at ethics of non-believers or differences in approach to individualism therein, would have been addressed. As well as issues between religions and just not being part of one.
Restorative masculinity ✌️
@@Jammet no it wouldnt
The guy lacks manners compared to these two
As an agreeable person I don't see Peterson as disagreeable though. I say this because you say "they are all disagreeable" which raised an eyebrow for me.
Wow! This was mysitcal to say the least! I felt like a veil was pulled back that's never been lifted before. That being said, I want MORE! This needed to be 8 hours long at least, so they could each take their time and fully follow each thought, with multiple days even! God bless you all!
I really, really, really recommend the talk between Jordan Peterson and Sheikh Hamza Yusuf to you.
Your right that was amazing 👏
Read the quran already :/
This wasnt mystical. It was actually quite silly. One guy believes in god and the other doesn't even know what god is ot means and overcomplicates every argument until you lose track of what the point is.
Thanks
I see a very arrogant, ignorant, immature, lost graduate student, pretending to be humble but know everything, trying very hard to teach, and actually look to personal attack, a truely humble, mature, intelligent, confidence, knowledgeable, patience professor who had done a lot of inner works and know himself very well.
Right?))
He loves to quote stuff in Arabic to look knowledgeable 🥱🥱🥱
We're onto him. He's extremely arrogant.
Sam Shamoun would eat him alive
@@sergiolalopez3598
As Muslims it's important to give reference if we are quoting something from Quran not just translation but Arabic as well, it's a common practice among Muslims even those who don't know Arabic learn the specific verse to convey the message with absolute Authenticity.
Look up for any Islamic Scholar or even a student and you'll find them doing this.
I see a person hiding behind an account trying to come up with a reason of why your religion has multiple contradictions in which peters was shown…
This type of conversations is very neccessary for the humanity!
We have learned so much and the amount of knowledge and wisdom between all of them was phenomenal!
I would love to see dr Jordan peterson debates dr Zakir naik . That would absolutely epic!
Greetings from Afghanistan
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;*
as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God is a title referring to the Word of God!
This mohammad hijab is a terrorist supporter n have incited violence against other religions multiple times . He's a terrorist
Dr Zaik Naik smashed all Christian debaters ,,, Peterson can’t mess with him!!!! 😃😃😃
@@hannawurst6064 Christians Are unfortunately getting more and more idol worshipping people,, despite the fact the errors and mistakes in your Bible!!! By the way for which Bible are we talking about??? There are so many Bibles out there ?? And all are fully corrupted!!! 😃😃😃😃
This should be a tutorial video on how to have a civil productive conversation between different beliefs and opinions.
It was very heart warming to listen to this, a beacon of light in a world of madness.
God bless you all
Which god?
@@JohnSmith-db2wl The God of the Bible. islam is idolatry.
@@jsharp9735 yeahhhh, worshipping useless imaginary sky daddies. Religion poisons everything.
@@JohnSmith-db2wl So where do you think life came from ?
@@jsharp9735 The arbitrary word "life" is just a verbal masturbation for the sake of orientation. Humans are temporary composed of materials with properties producing the temporary and fuzzy effects of identity. Same as the walls 🧱 are made of bricks. Nothing special. If your question is, where reality comes from? It is , was and always will be..
This conversation could have gone on for 6 hours and still be fascinating.
Yeah totally. They barely scratched the surface.
@@bonleofen Is there a part 2? It cut off halfway
@@zccau2316is there a part 2?
@@waleedaal sadly no. I think there could be some technical issues that couldn't record the last bit.
Man I want more of Jordan and hijab honestly . They have interesting conversations
Alhamdulillah for Islam.
I greatly appreciated the opportunity to hear this conversation. A lot of us are questioning what is happening around us more and more. Such discussions have traditionally been held between intellectuals, philosophers, and theologians, leaving the common man in the dark. Being an audience to such conversations helps sift through some thoughts, biases, and concerns we have in a seemingly more confused world. This hit the mark.
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@HOPE and PEACE lol extending the olive branch? Jp recently stormed al aqsa mosque in Palestine
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful
Allah Glory to him said:
Indeed, Allah chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Imrân [father of Mary] above all people. -33- They are descendants of one another. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. -34- ˹Remember˺ when the wife of ’Imrân said, “My Lord! I dedicate what is in my womb entirely to Your service,1 so accept it from me. You ˹alone˺ are truly the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” -35-When she delivered, she said, “My Lord! I have given birth to a girl,”-and Allah fully knew what she had delivered-“and the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary, and I seek Your protection for her and her offspring from Satan, the accursed.”-36- So her Lord accepted her graciously and blessed her with a pleasant upbringing-entrusting her to the care of Zachariah. Whenever Zachariah visited her in the sanctuary, he found her supplied with provisions. He exclaimed, “O Mary! Where did this come from?” She replied, “It is from Allah. Surely Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit.”-37- Then and there Zachariah prayed to his Lord, saying, “My Lord! Grant me-by your grace-righteous offspring. You are certainly the Hearer of ˹all˺ prayers.”-38- So the angels called out to him while he stood praying in the sanctuary, “Allah gives you good news of ˹the birth of˺ John who will confirm the Word of Allah and will be a great leader, chaste, and a prophet among the righteous.”-39- Zachariah exclaimed, “My Lord! How can I have a son when I am very old and my wife is barren?” He replied, “So will it be. Allah does what He wills.” -40- Zachariah said, “My Lord! Grant me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not ˹be able to˺ speak to people for three days except through gestures. Remember your Lord often and glorify ˹Him˺ morning and evening.”-41- And ˹remember˺ when the angels said, “O Mary! Surely Allah has selected you, purified you, and chosen you over all women of the world. -42- O Mary! Be devout to your Lord, prostrate yourself ˹in prayer˺ and bow along with those who bow down.”-43- This is news of the unseen that We reveal to you ˹O Prophet˺. You were not with them when they cast lots to decide who would be Mary’s guardian, nor were you there when they argued ˹about it˺.-44- ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word1 from Him, his name will be the Messiah,2 Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.-45- And he will speak to people in ˹his˺ infancy and adulthood and will be one of the righteous.” -46- Mary wondered, “My Lord! How can I have a child when no man has ever touched me?” An angel replied, “So will it be. Allah creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, ‘Be!’ And it is! -47- And Allah will teach him writing and wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,-48- and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird-by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life-by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe. -49- And I will confirm the Torah revealed before me and legalize some of what had been forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be mindful of Allah and obey me. -50- Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.’” -51- When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.” -52- ˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.” -53- And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned-and Allah is the best of planners.-54- ˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes. -55- As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers. -56- And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.” -57- We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder. -58- Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! -59- This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt. -60- }} Al-Imaran Al-Quran Al-Kareem
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!*
To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;*
as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
I cannot tell you how much my husband and I enjoyed this! We are recently married (about 6 weeks) and paused to talk about our own thoughts a time or three. Mr. Peterson has been a very positive influence in both our lives.
"Keep Shinin', Y'all" has been my closing since 2010. Thank you for the conversation and beautiful closing here.
May God bless me with a man that I can share my love for Dr. Peterson with 🙏🥲
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
This was a calm, careful discussion on all parties and it did my heart good to hear 3 people of different opinions and faiths speak openly and freely with each other without resulting in yelling and screaming. Kudos to all ya'll.
The discussion is islamic propaganda mostly ...
The Muslim was a little aggressive actually
It's definitely a good start of a conversation to be continued hopefully. Also from my American standpoint I remember it is written humility comes before honor.
@@MIKEDIAMONDZ implicitly you recognise islam is powerful…thanks 😆
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
Jordan Peterson,,Canadian government need to appreciate and be proud of this man
The passion Jordan speaks with can silence a stadium. Two weeks ago I watched a UA-cam video from you that saved my life. You speak so practically but do it so passionately. If people only listened more instead of becoming defensive about what you say we would be able to see our differences as beautiful and would live in a more peaceful world. I wish we could listen to each other.
Yes, a peaceful world is what we all want. But the point in life can - according to my opinion - never be something within this world! The point of life is to find your way to God!
@@fidelio5390 I agree and I only wish that if we agreed that our faith is our motivation and we have the same end goal we could achieve some peaceful existence
@@__Talia__ yeah I like when people speak like that with all love and respect.
Agreed. Mr. Hijab, also was a force of knowledge. I lived and worked in Egypt, I have so much respect for the Christian and Muslim community. I feel both sides learned a lot from each other.
@@theyab3167 I've heard Hijab speak very cruel & vile words, maybe he's chilled out.
OMG! Excellent! My intellect has been so stimulated that even if I don’t totally understand that concepts, my Spirit says Amen! Something in me on a spiritual level has been fed. So thankful for Dr Jordan Peterson❤
Lol
Amen sister, I agree. 🙏🏻✝️
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
Beautiful and brave comment. May Allah bless you for your very humble demeanour.
Something so pleasant about someone with seemingly so little ego.
Love it!
@@moerocco775 Thank you, i try.
As a Christian I found this absolutely fascinating. Thank you for this conversation!
I'm curious to hear what aspects of this conversation fascinated you, please?
Me too, please.
I can respond if you like. I suppose you could call me a Christian as I try to follow the words of Jesus and the bible, search for a closer relationship with God, and go to church meetings. The consistent “evidence” supporting my own belief in what (and who) I consider to be the way and truth has been the vast array of modern psychological, sociological and psychoanalytical findings that seem to fall perfectly in place with what God communicates to us in the bible, especially in Jesus’ teachings. Peterson points out quite a few more consistencies in this discussion, which I found fascinating. On top of that, I love his articulation of the idea that looking at stories in the bible as literal, historical, somewhat ephemeral incidences are in a way downplaying their eternal significance, because they were true then, they are now, and they will be in the future.
On top of that, I also loved hearing from Mohammed about the consistencies with modern life which his holy book have described. On the darker side, I do believe his fervent (and no doubt religiously dutiful) attempts to convince the other two of the higher value or more rightful place of his own religion was kind of missing the point of where this conversation was intended to go. I hoped the core similarities and differences would be discussed in order to reach a further understanding of how we can coexist without conflict, but as Mohammed had suggested a few times, unity is not his main goal.
What did you guys like/dislike?
Jordan Peterson’s answer to whether he will convert to Islam if there is evidence that it is true was epic: No. Because that’s not how I evaluate the situation….. the proof of faith is the attractiveness of its adherence. Are you a shining example of the Muslim faith? How hard do you shine?……. That is the very big problem. No shine. No conversion. Our belief or our faith can be seen by the fruit by the action. As Jesus said: by the fruit you will know the tree. And Peterson just crushed Hijab. 🔥
Why u take everything like war dear
Relax
If you shine the way you claim and follow the faith as it is, billions wouldn't have left the faith. You don't pay attention to.your reality, you live in your head.
Crushed? You really think this Christianity vs islam?
You think like a literal 8 year old child
The way He expounds a Biblical text, making it real and relevant...is so profound... This guy walks in the gift of Wisdom...
Yes but what is biblical text, like really you have to define text, text can mean a lot of things to many different people, don't get me started on biblical.
@@CERBERUS300ify 😂this is a statement that Mr. Peterson would actually ask!!
@@Tepkeny cause he's a waste of time to gain clicks for cash. That's about it. Nothing profound comes out of his mouth ever.
@@CERBERUS300ify who hurt you?
I have benefited a lot from his lectures, am sorry Ryan, look elsewhere for someone who may wiggle something that you'll find worth your time...
@@Tepkeny lol
5:06 Dr Jordan: “I’m actually not here to be tolerant” WOW i give him a lot of credit for being brutally honest & sticking to his beliefs, & showing guts!!!
But that was more of a statement saying its not out of tolerance because that would mean he's just putting up with him.
Hes just tolerating this debate.
So I think he explained quite well why he didn't use the word "tolerate"
Why he is not honest with Benjamin Natanjahu ? And not challenging him
He's not there?
How's he going to ask a totally irrelevant question?
Last I checked, he was Israeli?
Peterson is CHRISTIAN!
Hijab is Muslim?
What are you talking about??
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
@@azerhuseinbegovic1692 about what? Your hatred towards Jews?
Such an invigorating discussion - it makes my heart sing! Thought provoking, action inspiring, hopeful and life affirming - thank you to all involved.
Holy moly. My heart jolted at several instances but boy, this was an exhilarating experience. Thank you Jordan and Hijab !
I love how Jordan takes the scenic route when answering questions. A worthwhile talk to absorb and contemplate so thank you once again.
A good way of putting it. I think a lot of people dont like him because they believe his answers are pedantic and lengthy, but in reality its just detailed. With the right detail mind you. Too much of modern society acts and speaks in a fast forward manner, so articulate detailed conversations like this arent met well with an ignorant modern public.
@@dangoodwin5400 he was waffling at some points.
This blew my mind! What a pleasure and blessing to listen to such clever people!
WHAT Does GOD CALL Them.......# NOT "Clever" !! FOOLS
Listen to the contents of their speech. Not the delivery.
One of the ultimate explanations of conception of what god is “waiting” from you.
This has to be the best conversation i have come across on these topics. Much respect to these men for coming together and setting a great example for all of us. I genuinely enjoyed hearing each of them share their thoughts.
There have been 124,000 Prophets (peace be upon them all) that Allah/God has sent since the beginning of time. Allah says, “We have sent to every nation a Messenger saying, “Worship Allah alone and reject the worship of false idols.” (Quran 16:36)
The purpose of these Prophets was to direct people away from the worship of their own ideas, others human beings/celebrities, objects etc. That is because every human being has the connection to pray to God anytime, anywhere.
Another important emphasis was so that people would stop making pictures of what they think God looks like. In order to understand God, it is important to study the Holy Books, especially the final Holy Book the Quran so we can put all the pieces together. Often times many just end up following whatever religion or culture they are born in without fully investigating and doing the research of all the religions.
God has given this special unique ability to the human being the makes us different from all other creations- to be able to read and write.
It is also important to be conscious of how God is coordinating everything in the universe in a systematic order, including the events that are happening in our lives. There are lessons daily in order for our growth. Situations that we may perceive as bad are actually for a good reason (that may not always make sense to us) but every situation should be used for motivation, to learn and to become closer to God.
Now each of these Messengers emphasized that God is only One and is neither born nor can die. Often we see pictures and statues of these false images of God that look half animal half human, or to call another human being God like the worship of Jesus.
HUMANS ARE LIMITED, GOD IS LIMITLESS
God has the ability to listen to every single human being at the same second, whether we speak out loud or within ourselves. Imagine there were a group of 25 people talking out loud at the same time, how difficult would it be to understand every conversation going on at the same time? God has this ability to do this.
God is also watching every single human being and coordinating everything in our lives at the same second. With our eyes, ears and senses, we are just not able to do what God is able to do, let alone God has in perfect coordination this entire universe with billions of galaxies. God does not eat, sleep, have a brain or a heart. Therefore no picture, image or any human being is anything like God.
This is the message of Islam, to worship God alone, the same exact message of all the Messengers including Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them).
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!*
Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!!
Philippians 2:5-8
@@hannawurst6064 this is the shit that messes everyone up! Citing verses and super long “righteousness” essays
I disagree. Hijab kept the conversation at a very low level, which JP remarked in the video btw. That was embarassing
@@haroonchaudhry3148 allah 6th century moon god does not exist.
Thank a lot to cameraman 📽️🎞️🎬🎙️he did very well and professional his job. Thank you very much cameraman and All of you who have participated in this beautiful conversation.
Dr. JP: “This isn’t an insult; I’m telling you what my reaction is…”
Mohammed Hijab: “Please”
-if we could get this interaction right as a species, the rest of life would be so easy. This is an excellent sampling of honest, thoughtful exchange between intelligent persons. More, please.
Thank you 🙏🏼 cheers.
Adults discussing bronze-age-superstition 😂 you can't expect much
@@martin4670 the abrahamic ideas and stories, the abrahamic religion especially islam and Christianity are no where near as old as brionze age, surely judiasim is also not as old as bronze age, islam originited 6th-7th Century AD/CE
The Godfather = ALLAH is the The Real Truth
@@martin4670 Unfortunatly, it's a bit over your head. I see you're here though, perhaps you'll figure it out someday.
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!*
To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Jonathan doing a great job dealing with the provocative comments. A real professional
Been a beneficiary of Dr Peterson’s work for years, but I feel like sometimes he overcomplicates things unnecessarily for himself. Of course there are nuances and levels of meaning that are worth investigating in intellectual topics, but there are also many things in the world and about ourselves that can and should be and indeed are very simple. A Chinese idiom states “大道至简”, “the highest truth is the simplest”. I don’t think it’s beneficial to always jump to the symbolism of things without carefully but also simply looking at their perceptible reality. Perhaps he can attempt to give some simple answers to the simple questions that Mohamed hijab asked, such as “where are we from?”, “where are we going?”, “what’s the purpose of life”, etc. And if he doesn’t have readily available answers, perhaps it wouldn’t harm to look at some simple answers already existing, and looking at them with a humble and curious mind. Might be interesting what he will find.
The Doctor is just a man with degrees that has major illusions of grandeur. Craves the adulation. He is no smarter than you. Do not give these kind of folks your power. Question, think for yourself. Just the start of another cult. He scares the crap out of me.
those are not simple questions though. For someone who follows God it is because we are given the answer. if you are not a Christian, Muslim or Jew... there is no defined meaning of life.
I imagine that you are someone who was raised in a faith. For Jordan Peterson he is from an athiest household. It's not nuanced at all and his faith is greater than someone who has known God his whole life.
I second McLellan's comment about those questions not being simple. In fact, those are some of the deepest existential questions that can be asked. It's far from clear what our purpose in life is. Do we address that question at the level of the individual or broadly at the level of humanity as a whole? Is the answer different depending on the level of analysis? If so, is it radically different or only somewhat different? Etc., etc. As far as I can tell, the only truth that is at least initially simple is the affirmation that truth exists. Beyond that, the complications are legion.
@@merquiadesmclellan2800 JP does not believe in god. If he did, he wouldn't keep dodging the question. The most he's said is that God might exist. Making him essentially agnostic. Therefore, his faith is nonexistent.
If you want to take the lessons from religion and turn them into secular life advice, just say that. End of story.
@@arttusuonsivu8492 I didn't say he believed on God. I'm not sure what you read. I said that people that do believe in God have an answer for questions like "what is the eating of life". JP asks these questions because he is not of a faith.
Also, if you watch his most recent videos and podcasts I'd say he believes I God.
Listening to these guys is humbling, I’m not as smart as I thought I was Mashallah. I love being a student to everyone that knows something beneficial that I don’t
As Jordan said in a different video l, everyone knows something that you don’t, you need to try and discover what this thing is to benefit yourself
a sign of intelligence is knowing that you don't know everything, and you can always learn more. Also being open to the fact that you might have been wrong on what you thought you knew, and accepting new ideas etc
@@bri4498 in this modern world it's very hard to find almost anyone who can listen to anyone about anything.
@@Dodo-ds7yk yes. Dr. Peterson came to meet hijab with the intention of learning, to build bridges, to come together to make peace using our similarities but hijab didn't come for friendship and positives he came to try and get Dr. Peterson to convert to Islam. Hahaha, it'll never happen because there's so much wrong with Islam no amount of mental gymnastics can get over the facts like always at war even with other Muslims, peodophilia, suicide bombers etc etc.
He is very aggressive with an ego. He doesnt know what he doesnt know.
Much appreciate for this conversation. This is what can unite all of us. Not debates. Only conversation. Only finding similarity in our religion. Thank you, Dr. Peterson!
Jordan is the goat.we all should listen.
I like how Dr. Peterson comes of out of the gate saying he wants "to start a dialogue stupidly and badly". It's humble and socratic. I don't really know too much, but I am going to attempt to do something, and I am going to do it badly. But let's at least get it started.
If you could add subtitles in French, Spanish and German, you could reach more people around the world, because what you are doing is for everyone, especially in these times when we need less division and restore values and common sense.
Yes we all need to hear this or read
Also farsi
Allah Glory to him said:”Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.-72-Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment.-73-Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.-74- The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food.1 See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!-75- Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “How can you worship besides Allah those who can neither harm nor benefit you? And Allah ˹alone˺ is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”-76- Say, “O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes in your faith beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of those who went astray before ˹you˺. They misled many and strayed from the Right Way.”-77- The disbelievers among the Children of Israel were condemned in the revelations of David and Jesus, son of Mary. That was for their disobedience and violations.-78- They did not forbid one another from doing evil. Evil indeed was what they did!-79- You see many of them taking the disbelievers1 as allies. Truly wicked are their misdeeds, which have earned them Allah’s wrath. And they will be in everlasting torment.-80- Had they believed in Allah, the Prophet, and what has been revealed to him, they would have never taken those ˹pagans˺ as allies. But most of them are rebellious-81- You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant.-82- When they listen to what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears for recognizing the truth. They say, “Our Lord! We believe, so count us among the witnesses.-83- Why should we not believe in Allah and the truth that has come to us? And we long for our Lord to include us in the company of the righteous.”-84-So Allah will reward them for what they said with Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there forever. And that is the reward of the good-doers.-85-“ Al-Maida Al Quran Al-Kareem
Arabic?
Translating an entire 1.5 hour long discussion into another language, especially without any difference in meaning, would be extremely challenging.
I am a Christian and have visited many Muslim countries I.e Jordan - Palestine- Egypt - Morrocco - Pakistan - Algeria - kula Lumpur- Kuwait and have had many conversations I feel so at home there and most of my best friends are Muslim ' some of us can't speak each other's language 'still very close ' translators/text.
Really loved this video and it's true that we are very similar and get a long good .
Just the media makes it like we are enemies -
Don't take my word for it just travel and you will see for yourself .I have the up most respect for all my brothers ...
We certainly not enemy in humanity, but we Christian are the enemy of demons who create Islam, Sunni and Shia wicked religion.
The only way to the father is through Jesus Christ!
@@RubberTag Ok to you is your religion and to me is mine! That doesn’t mean we can’t respect each other as humans.
@@knightara Unfortunately for an extremely massive amount of the population of both communities you Mentioned There's plenty of reasons. If you actually interpret the word as the word of God and/or It's Allah to be literal in its interpretation then From the Christian perspective all muslims will burn in hell for eternity and all christians need to die as an infidel should
Most people that have the views of what you're saying cherry pick from their religion and believe and don't believe What it is they feel like it's ridiculous how many people that are religious have never actually read through the text and we're just indoctrinated at a young age and told I mean of course If God is all forgiving that even if you do screw up you can always come back so just live your life how you want I mean it's so contradictory and ignorant
This is what is required. Open discussions and talking. Its okay to disagree.
Jonathan's patience is admirable here. Would have loved to hear more from him and hear him respond to certain things though.
There was an Owl who lived in an oak, The more he heard the less he spoke. The less he spoke the more he heard oh why can't I be like that wise old Bird..
@@wayne8736 amen
Muslims don't answer certain questions, due to looking pathetic and disgusting, if they do. It's pathetic.
Rationally is important
Please do this much more often. The world needs it.
We need more conversations with Jonathan and Islam.
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful
Allah Glory to him said:
Indeed, Allah chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Imrân [father of Mary] above all people. -33- They are descendants of one another. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. -34- ˹Remember˺ when the wife of ’Imrân said, “My Lord! I dedicate what is in my womb entirely to Your service,1 so accept it from me. You ˹alone˺ are truly the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” -35-When she delivered, she said, “My Lord! I have given birth to a girl,”-and Allah fully knew what she had delivered-“and the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary, and I seek Your protection for her and her offspring from Satan, the accursed.”-36- So her Lord accepted her graciously and blessed her with a pleasant upbringing-entrusting her to the care of Zachariah. Whenever Zachariah visited her in the sanctuary, he found her supplied with provisions. He exclaimed, “O Mary! Where did this come from?” She replied, “It is from Allah. Surely Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit.”-37- Then and there Zachariah prayed to his Lord, saying, “My Lord! Grant me-by your grace-righteous offspring. You are certainly the Hearer of ˹all˺ prayers.”-38- So the angels called out to him while he stood praying in the sanctuary, “Allah gives you good news of ˹the birth of˺ John who will confirm the Word of Allah and will be a great leader, chaste, and a prophet among the righteous.”-39- Zachariah exclaimed, “My Lord! How can I have a son when I am very old and my wife is barren?” He replied, “So will it be. Allah does what He wills.” -40- Zachariah said, “My Lord! Grant me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not ˹be able to˺ speak to people for three days except through gestures. Remember your Lord often and glorify ˹Him˺ morning and evening.”-41- And ˹remember˺ when the angels said, “O Mary! Surely Allah has selected you, purified you, and chosen you over all women of the world. -42- O Mary! Be devout to your Lord, prostrate yourself ˹in prayer˺ and bow along with those who bow down.”-43- This is news of the unseen that We reveal to you ˹O Prophet˺. You were not with them when they cast lots to decide who would be Mary’s guardian, nor were you there when they argued ˹about it˺.-44- ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word1 from Him, his name will be the Messiah,2 Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.-45- And he will speak to people in ˹his˺ infancy and adulthood and will be one of the righteous.” -46- Mary wondered, “My Lord! How can I have a child when no man has ever touched me?” An angel replied, “So will it be. Allah creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, ‘Be!’ And it is! -47- And Allah will teach him writing and wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,-48- and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird-by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life-by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe. -49- And I will confirm the Torah revealed before me and legalize some of what had been forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be mindful of Allah and obey me. -50- Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.’” -51- When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.” -52- ˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.” -53- And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned-and Allah is the best of planners.-54- ˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes. -55- As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers. -56- And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.” -57- We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder. -58- Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! -59- This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt. -60- }} Al-Imaran Al-Quran Al-Kareem