S23 Ultra Teardown: Right to Repair Forcing Samsung Towards Repairable Design

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  • Опубліковано 11 гру 2024

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  • @Gokul_Yt
    @Gokul_Yt Рік тому +385

    How Completely software locked phone getting 7/10 and a phone without any software locks getting 4/10 For using too much glue. And Samsung provides debugging software for everyone of their phones. Reparability score really needs to include software Not just the hardware.

    • @Gokul_Yt
      @Gokul_Yt Рік тому +62

      Even if you only care about hardware i phones have security screws so that is not getting any negative points ? .

    • @HDman.
      @HDman. Рік тому +10

      Agree

    • @mus_xr4653
      @mus_xr4653 Рік тому +9

      @@Gokul_Yt no, because the screw drivers are very common

    • @Gokul_Yt
      @Gokul_Yt Рік тому +22

      @@mus_xr4653 IPA is also very common

    • @mus_xr4653
      @mus_xr4653 Рік тому +19

      The screens on the s23 and s23 ultra are irreplaceable. If you want to replace a screen you would have to replace the screen and the full frame, making the after market repairs unaffordable

  • @luca7069
    @luca7069 Рік тому +23

    1:31 i don't agree at all on this pulltab. Your perception is IMHO influenced by the fact you tear down brand new phones, so the "stretchy adhesive trips" Apple uses work as intended on new iphones. But if you're replacing the battery after 3 years of ownership, all the heat cycles from charging and using the phone "destroy" that adhesive, meaning no matter how careful you are those stretchy stips are gonna break and you end up having to pry out, risking battery puncture.
    This kind of "huge pulltab" Samsung has adopted (and was already in use by Huawei and One Plus i believe) might prove less convenient but it gives a consistent battery removal procedure even years down the line.
    Also, this requires no additional tools, while the iPhone adhesive strips have to be grabbed with tweezers and almost always more extensive disassembly of the phone (taking out the taptic engine for example).

  • @mrdummy_nl
    @mrdummy_nl Рік тому +21

    You give it 4/10 but other repair channels give it 9/10...
    So what is going on here? Why have you more trouble and negative view on it than others? Explain it.
    Compared to iPhone14, it get much negative score and it's reported software locked. Then compared to others, iPhone 14 should have 2/10 score here.

    • @StarfoxHUN
      @StarfoxHUN Рік тому +2

      Well i think the main problem with Samsung is still the curved screen, that is just so much harder/pricier to repair than flat screens(And ofc the insane amount of glue in the whole device). Is it worse to repair than a software-locked screen thought? Hard question indeed...

    • @THEJPR
      @THEJPR Рік тому +2

      ​@StarfoxHUN So, a part that CAN be replaced while retaining FULL functionality vs a part that CAN be replaced WITHOUT retaining full functionality is a toss up? Heat plate or heat gun at 173F/80C does quick work of the glue.

    • @ViciousFirearms
      @ViciousFirearms Рік тому

      Rent free babyyyy

  • @jaideepa.s176
    @jaideepa.s176 Рік тому +15

    Samsung is not catching up with the hardware with Apple, dude Samsung S8 received the best Smartphone design award years ago where Apple was just a slab of metal. The Fold, the flip, and the curved display is innovative. Apple just buys display from Samsung.

  • @YerpS140
    @YerpS140 Рік тому +5

    LMFAO they give it a bad score based on how they can repair the device with their flawed tools, heat and IPA will remove that back glass faster than you could try to remove that front OLED from any iPhone without going the apple route. Admit it ifixit at this point your at apples mercy.

  • @ljessecusterl
    @ljessecusterl Рік тому +21

    Samsung phones have always been repairable. The greater worry now is them lobbying to block aftermarket OLED panels being imported to the US.

    • @reahs4815
      @reahs4815 Рік тому +1

      @TROLL_MASTER you remove it and glue on a new one?

  • @SnoozinFox
    @SnoozinFox Рік тому +9

    That 4/10 rating is evidently wrong

  • @123theprodigy5
    @123theprodigy5 Рік тому +58

    I’m glad Samsung Google has partnered up with you guys to help people fix their devices. I wish Apple didn’t software lock all of their components to the motherboard. now, if we want to fix our Apple devices we have to read a long ass manual. i’m glad Google and Samsung just make it quick and easy.

    • @davidyang9902
      @davidyang9902 Рік тому +16

      ​@No offense the idea is to have CHOICES. apple charges an insane for out of warranty/apple care repairs that are frankly not worth it for older devices. and they can also refuse to service your device, or maybe apple repair is just not convenient in an area. for this reason, it is EXTREMELY important to have 3rd party repair option so people are not at the mercy of one company to get their things working again. if you would like apple to fix your things, great, im glad they can help with that, but you should never support apple's decision to lock down repairs so other people cannot fix things their way too

    • @kevincat2
      @kevincat2 Рік тому +5

      @No offense they serialize components and then tie them to a motherboard

    • @kevincat2
      @kevincat2 Рік тому +4

      @No offense how is a serialized display going to secure your device?

    • @kevincat2
      @kevincat2 Рік тому +2

      @No offense way to ignore my question.

    • @dpqb-web
      @dpqb-web Рік тому

      @@nooffense911 am trying to be positive and neutral here.
      the anti-theft move has sacrifice to right-to-repair move, and vice versa.
      some people saw this is disadvantage that makes their phone is irreparable, thus the beliefs "not owning their phone"; and some thinks this is one of cash-grabber attempt, which makes sense for me.
      some people also saw this is advantage that any counterfeits cannot be sold. in fact, it worked pretty well; since iPhone 12, i have seen less (if not never) any new iPhone sold that has been "frankensteined" with another poor quality components, despite with same high price or less. with serialized and high price components, it makes almost impossible to fake the phone.
      me who never own any apple products (yet), saw this as both points.
      the real problem is that any evil people could misuse the right to repair for their own money. nowadays it is have been a big dilemma between increasing repairability and preventing counterfeits. i hope there is any alternative attempts that could solve both problems; products that repairable and cannot be counterfeited.

  • @dhivydhimanth1960
    @dhivydhimanth1960 Рік тому +40

    That's some pretty good news. After all these years of no pull tab at all, even a barely functional pull tab is a great first move (hopefully of many)

    • @Atixtasy
      @Atixtasy Рік тому +1

      99% alchohol works wonders lol as a samsung authorized technician

  • @RikAindow
    @RikAindow 6 місяців тому +1

    This video aged well. Sad to see Samsung resorting to poor tactics.

  • @tylerhauk6737
    @tylerhauk6737 Рік тому +5

    ok all the hands collectively pulling the battery out gave me a good laugh lol 1:50

  • @tomgjonaj9965
    @tomgjonaj9965 Рік тому +4

    How do you do a teardown video and not show off the new, larger, vapor chamber? No shots of the motherboard? Jesus.

  • @avaviel
    @avaviel Рік тому +3

    Bahaha the three or four people on the pull tab was hilarious!

  • @PLPlolol1
    @PLPlolol1 Рік тому +5

    batteries shouldnt be glued in to begin with

    • @CommanderCodey
      @CommanderCodey Рік тому +3

      What would hold them in the frame then. You don’t want the battery shuffling around.

    • @williamskyseraspili4779
      @williamskyseraspili4779 Рік тому +1

      it damages the battery if it is not glued....

    • @PLPlolol1
      @PLPlolol1 Рік тому +1

      @@williamskyseraspili4779 theres a ton of different ways to attach a battery without making it risky for unexperienced users to remove
      In fact, i can hardly think of a more dangerous way to attach a battery than gluing it in
      Just look at older phones, samsungs xcover series or some laptops, it has always been possible to make a battery replacable without making it a hassle
      There is no excuse for a company to glue things shut except for making the product have a guaranteed shorter lifespan, batteries are always the first thing that goes

    • @PLPlolol1
      @PLPlolol1 Рік тому +1

      @@CommanderCodey how are AA batteries secured in place?
      or single button cells, car batteries, battery packs on xbox controllers and maybe the best example, older phones?
      its all possible, has been done before and even is done today
      just look at samsungs xcover series for example
      no glue, doesnt wiggle and youre able to replace the battery in 10s or less

    • @thebravegallade731
      @thebravegallade731 Рік тому

      @@PLPlolol1 removable batteries need bulky safety cases casue they are ment to be handled by the consumer.

  • @damienlobb85
    @damienlobb85 Рік тому +14

    Will you guys be doing a chip ID at all? There's definitely some pretty significant changes to the sound. I am curious to see if Samsung have upgraded the amplifiers to the newer higher powered Cirrus models that are in the ROG 5/6 phones or if they've just stuck with the older models, and only upgraded the speakers.

  • @lasangtamang470
    @lasangtamang470 Рік тому +4

    I cannot agree with this rating ..😂😂

  • @kuchesezik
    @kuchesezik Рік тому +6

    meanwhile samsung: plotting to ban import of all oled screens

  • @WillsWorkshop
    @WillsWorkshop Рік тому +6

    Always found Samsungs to be one of the best to disassemble and repair, even with the glue they use for the battery, have always just added some IPA and walked away for a few minutes, should also note a pull tab is not new for Samsung devices it has appeared previously on some of their tablet devices.

  • @nervenjere
    @nervenjere Рік тому +4

    i disagree on the score. at least you can repair this device without the manufacturer.
    even has an open bootloader.
    I have a galaxy s5 to play arround and i'm still able to install new custom software. All about the options.

    • @nervenjere
      @nervenjere Рік тому

      @No offense this is a good point. Best would be the best of both worlds :)

  • @ricardoelectronicsrepair
    @ricardoelectronicsrepair Рік тому +2

    in my country indonesia, i see lot of samsung oled screen got separating from its base on its own, usually back cover loose first, and i have lot of repair chinese screen not only because its crack but the flexible damaged from hanging the screen because their glue is gone(sorry for my bad english 😅)

  • @matthewsanchez1160
    @matthewsanchez1160 Рік тому +2

    Do you know when you guys will get the self repair kits for the s23 line in stock?

  • @TheInconvenientTruth123
    @TheInconvenientTruth123 Рік тому +3

    "Catching up to apple in hardware"? I think you'll find they've been ahead of apple in hardware for years.

  • @Mr2pint
    @Mr2pint Рік тому +6

    See other tear downs - watching you guys take that battery out was pitiful 🤣

  • @parthsoni1818
    @parthsoni1818 Рік тому +2

    Cameras are getting bigger and motherboard is getting smaller...

    • @mrdummy_nl
      @mrdummy_nl Рік тому

      Not really. Its not smaller. The circuit layout is just more one rectangle. Other phones uses long circuit board along the edge, like iPhones.
      This way battery can use full with, and the design here needs 3 big bridges. The iPhone design has no big bridges.
      That is why it's just another PCB design.

  • @HenningGu
    @HenningGu Рік тому +2

    One major hurdle.
    Finding 3 friends to provide (emotional) support.

  • @yvesparis4933
    @yvesparis4933 Рік тому +6

    Personally I am disappointed with your disassembly ...
    You make no reference to the parts inside unfortunately,
    except for the camera
    Do we have LPDDR5X memory from there?
    Have we Universal Flash Storage UFS 4.0 ?
    You're not talking about the Qualcomm 8 G2 processor
    The modem in a Smartphone surely not useful either you do not speak about it
    X70
    No inventory of parts that have actually been installed inside the Smartphone
    You say, what interests you is under the hood
    And you practically talk about there tab install to remove there battery
    It's like opening the hood of a race car
    And only watch there battery once the hood is open
    And you won't watch the engine with the supercharge
    Seriously, probably your worst disassembly since the existence of Ifixit

    • @LaidBackDeveloper
      @LaidBackDeveloper Рік тому +1

      Yes it does have LPDDR5x. Yes it does have UFS 4.0 and I definitely do think ifixit’s teardown was disappointing and just bad in so many ways

    • @yvesparis4933
      @yvesparis4933 Рік тому

      ​@@LaidBackDeveloper Thanks for taking time to respond to me
      Can you find a website that shows the part numbers inside the S23 Ultra
      Or have we hoped that Ice Univer would deceive as little as possible in its predictions?
      Example, I believe the fingerprint reader is the same as the s22
      And yet Ice Universe predicted an improvement
      It's only an example
      By the way, I really appreciate Ice Univer because they give us information very often it comes to fruition
      For satellite communication
      Qualcomm seems to say that they will be able to activate it on certain Smartphones with the 8 gen 2 During the year
      They said about second trimester
      But I believe they will also have to wait for Android 14
      So might as well wait for the s24 Ultra!
      The possibility of a Satellite connection is very reassuring in an out-of-zone excursion of cellular networks.

  • @davidjacobs6244
    @davidjacobs6244 Рік тому +3

    I never have to worry about any of this as I have been using smartphones for 13 years and have never needed a repair.I am very careful with expensive devices.

  • @massimiliano1306
    @massimiliano1306 Рік тому +2

    not sure if thi is an ultra teardown or a classic one

  • @Sammmeeee
    @Sammmeeee 8 місяців тому

    What is the cable to the far left over the battery when you're disconnecting it? Alot of videos don't have that

  • @ValeriuGeorgescu-cp1qs
    @ValeriuGeorgescu-cp1qs 10 місяців тому

    Where are the internals wallpapers?

  • @azneon
    @azneon Рік тому +4

    Samsung "catching up" with Apple? Seriously?

    • @shanemorris9762
      @shanemorris9762 6 місяців тому +1

      Literally, samasung has been eons ahead of apple for a l9ng long time

  • @gameflixph1924
    @gameflixph1924 10 місяців тому

    If you remove the back cover and reassemble it, is it waterproof or the waterproof vanish

  • @GarvGupta2
    @GarvGupta2 Рік тому +1

    LMAO, was that an MKBHD reference where he swapped S22 ultra with a S23 in his recent video.

  • @arash4448
    @arash4448 Рік тому

    Hello, I'm sorry, if you can help me, on the S23 Ultra screen, I press exactly the part where the copper foil is located behind the periscope camera, it makes a sound like plastic, is this sound due to the presence of the copper foil under the screen and is it normal?? I press a lot next to the volume key on the screen, it makes a sound like a hand on plastic. Please help, thank you

  • @E4create
    @E4create Рік тому

    Is the aluminum side piece which I assume is a part of the midframe replaceable ? I have dropped it a few times with case and would not like to deal with it the entire time I have the phone

  • @StarfoxHUN
    @StarfoxHUN Рік тому

    There's something i totally don't get. Why the curvy cables in the inside? They are definitely bit more pricier to produce than straight cables, so what could be possibly the reason they make it curvy?

    • @StarfoxHUN
      @StarfoxHUN Рік тому

      @@cmmartti why wont it be more expensive, when it costs more material. Yea the amount is tiny in one unit, but when you produce millions of them, it adds up.

    • @StarfoxHUN
      @StarfoxHUN Рік тому

      @@cmmartti I think you did not understood my original question. What i asked actually is its purpose, as it has to have a purpose otherwise the company wont even spend even 1 millionth of a cent more /device.
      And I'm thankful for your theorizing about its reason, but i'd looking for something more 'decising' than an 'i think' or something along those lines.

  • @JohnWick-kv1bz
    @JohnWick-kv1bz 21 день тому

    I wish samsung would go back to removable battery doors that are water and dust proof, as well as add micro sd or TF card slots back into their phones. I loved my S20 ultra for that reason, however, it broke so now i'm using the S23 ultra. Not having my 256gb Sd card in my phone after having it for years now, its driving me nuts but I do have internal 512. Well, more like 400 or so after system and clutter eat up the rest instead of samsung adding a second drive only for clutter crap and os crap and give the consumer the promised 512 FULL gb of space with no loss.

  • @xaemusic
    @xaemusic Рік тому

    How does this not have a headphone jack

  • @adharshappu3598
    @adharshappu3598 Рік тому

    Can I swap s22 ultras internals with s23 ultra

  • @coloringfunn
    @coloringfunn Рік тому +1

    Habibi come to India....kids are repairing Samsung phones

  • @johnthomas2970
    @johnthomas2970 Рік тому

    G’day from Australia. Picking up my S23 ultra pre order when I get home tomorrow 😎

  • @Raja995mh33
    @Raja995mh33 Рік тому +1

    So they basically just added a useless pull tab to their 5 tons of glue on the battery...

  • @anggia3209
    @anggia3209 2 місяці тому

    Please add the Galaxy S23+ charging board to your store.

  • @lexusstefan927
    @lexusstefan927 4 місяці тому

    This is fine, however they did lock down rolling back software updates, even tho the new software kills battery life

  • @peterwu2844
    @peterwu2844 Рік тому

    My S23 Ultra has the defect in the bottom right corner. It is too late. I have turned on the phone. How can I fix the problem?

    • @dimitrisp.4397
      @dimitrisp.4397 Рік тому

      Relax, this is not even a defect, all previous edge phones had this similar "defect" and nobody noticed that all this years.

  • @thomasmeijer6275
    @thomasmeijer6275 Рік тому

    It would be good if Samsung put a back on the s24 series like they did until the S5, but glass with an aluminum plate against like the iphone 14 and 14 plus, and the wireless charging coil attached to the back, and the rest as it was as the S4 (with the S5 the screen had to be detached first to be able to take it apart).
    And the A and M series like in the past, like the galaxy A5 2015.

  • @davidadkins6412
    @davidadkins6412 Рік тому

    The only reason there cracking down on third-party repairs is they are losing money when they don't repair the item themselves

  • @hotfistVODS
    @hotfistVODS Рік тому

    very happy to see a shirt that isn't a lie

  • @anonanons163
    @anonanons163 Рік тому

    So ridiculous, I mean the HTC Evo was advanced for it's time, and easy to work on ....... Bugs me they make it so difficult
    Thanks on the video though

  • @idftsman8498
    @idftsman8498 Рік тому

    but will it work when you put it back together?

  • @facurojas4477
    @facurojas4477 Рік тому

    Samsung wants to have the monopoly to sell their screens which cost the same or more than a used entire phone, economically totalling the phone

  • @sinuemedina2550
    @sinuemedina2550 Рік тому

    Where the antenna 5g? I want to put a radiation blocker

  • @Alex-hv3ir
    @Alex-hv3ir Рік тому

    I only wish apple didn’t soft lock its components.

  • @luciferx1636
    @luciferx1636 Рік тому

    I saw they did same thing with others device which are more repair friendly but this guy's jut favor apple. They just told iphone 14 is good but whole thing lock in software even backpart . And coust much .

  • @LadBooboo
    @LadBooboo Рік тому

    A phone that gimps performance if you use 3rd party hardware gets a 7 while a phone that doesn't care about any of that gets a 4. Dayum, ifixit, whatchu smoking?

  • @hubertheroldsen.9304
    @hubertheroldsen.9304 17 днів тому

    Apple started this madness. That's why I'm boycotting their products. The exploitation and fraud with obstacles to self-repair is becoming more and more extreme. I wanted to replace the battery of a 4 year-old Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ costed 1000+ bugs in the days. A nightmare of glue, breaking plastic, ripping cables. iPhones are even more crap..., I've heard. Not to mention the built-in breaking points.

  • @luciferx1636
    @luciferx1636 Рік тому

    It's look like Deception.

  • @ReiEvangelista
    @ReiEvangelista Рік тому

    Catching up to Apple?

  • @mrrolandlawrence
    @mrrolandlawrence Рік тому

    cracking work. amazing tools.

  • @FakeJeep
    @FakeJeep Рік тому +1

    1:55 I'm sure it was for the lulz but for the love of god use some alcohol.

  • @marcossonicracer
    @marcossonicracer Рік тому +1

    still too little in my opnion. we gotta get back to the days where the battery were easly removeable and we gotta force modular design with standards for parts for the whole industry, the way the USB-C is going, but with all internal parts. standards needs to be enforced and mandated. it will make phones bulkier, yes, but honestly i don't care for a few more inches, and i think you shoudn't either.

    • @thebravegallade731
      @thebravegallade731 Рік тому

      we can't go back to completly removable without sacrificing around half the battery capacity which is just unacceptable, we are only finally reaching acceptable battery life these days

  • @noble_lime
    @noble_lime Рік тому

    Ya the heatpipe

  • @NeonVisual
    @NeonVisual Рік тому

    I don't understand why they have to glue the battery down so hard. It's like they want it to explode when it comes to a replacement.

  • @uabir8338
    @uabir8338 Рік тому +3

    Good luck getting the original battery WITHOUT BEING FORCED to buy the expensive display as well.
    Yes, they make you buy both

    • @LaidBackDeveloper
      @LaidBackDeveloper Рік тому +3

      No they do not. Where I live you can get the battery replacement without the screen. And I’m talking about from Samsung themselves

  • @stormrider01
    @stormrider01 Рік тому +2

    What I don’t like is this huge heat pipe going straight to the battery. Good luck in having good battery life after one year of use, the battery could suffer from the processors heat!

    • @mrdummy_nl
      @mrdummy_nl Рік тому +4

      You didn't check further it goes to big copper plate behind the screen. Heat is already distributed over big area. Battery has nothing with heat distribution!

    • @LaidBackDeveloper
      @LaidBackDeveloper Рік тому

      It doesn’t. It goes behind the display.

  • @mrrkrr
    @mrrkrr Рік тому

    Samsung finally got tired of iFixit and JerryRigEverything harping on their insane battery adhesive and improved the design... Great job you guys!

  • @buixote
    @buixote Рік тому

    Denatured alcohol

  • @RICHIE_RICH89
    @RICHIE_RICH89 Рік тому

    Not a good tear down at all.

  • @DidongCaocap
    @DidongCaocap Рік тому

    Nice

  • @re-fix9678
    @re-fix9678 Рік тому

    😘😘👍👍

  • @Arkid77777
    @Arkid77777 3 місяці тому +1

    Oof

  • @X-OR_
    @X-OR_ Рік тому

    I hate your little jabs at Apple.

  • @yvesparis4933
    @yvesparis4933 Рік тому +1

    Completely useless video to watch
    You didn't even show the part numbers inside that Samsung put in a $2500 Canadian Smartphone
    You are interested in an unnecessary tab to remove there Battery for half of your video
    Completely useless video to watch

  • @s13shaka
    @s13shaka Рік тому +4

    Ifixit is mostly a joke because they act like they would produce these products differently but they don’t nor will they ever so it’s a farce and completely hypocritical for them to judge what others do