Penn has gotten better over the years. This is good to see. Glad you conduct these tests to show the validity of a reel manufacturers claims. I owned a slammer V and it was the first serious reel I ever owned and it kicked ass. I'll be looking to get one of these come Christmas
And Rew based on what? The only thing that can suggest that is the fact they come of an assembly line in China giving way to inconsistencies. My own personal experience with Penn has yet to leave me with an issue
And Rew but they still catch fish right? Only until recently, you got what you pay for. But look at the BG by daiwa. The reel is 100 bucks and it performs like a 300 dollar reel. The tech in reels is getting cheaper to put in bargin priced reels lately. It's no shock that penn is making really good stuff lately, but youre seeing that in their 200+ dollar reels. Not super cheap, but not shimano prices either. But that being said, I have a penn clash 6000 that caught me 27 blackfins from 6 to 24 pounds over three jigging trips. Reel still works fine. Caught a 120 pound lemon shark on a 6500 Spinfisher V, landed it and the reel still worked fine.
And Rew my point is they started getting better again with the spinfisher v and the torque around 2012. When pure fishing bought them, they kept getting better year after year. Kind of hard for me to say they've gotten better only recently. I am aware several were coming of the line defective, but I've seen reels of all prices by all manufacturers faiI. But I caught fish on trips to the same extent everyone around me was when they were using shimanos, daiwas etc., and without issue.
That was a fantastic review. Great to get an independent perspective and see such good results. As always, thanks a million for another brilliant review. Dave
Just found your channel. Liked and subscribed immediately. Bought my first Penn reel, a 3500 Slammer 4 2 years ago. Line lay was awful from the outside and I had to remove all the washers to get the properly. Hope the Slammer is as tough as the reel in the video. All the best and tight lines
Great review, gonna purchase it. This is gonna be perfect to surf fish the bull red run down here in Texas. You did a hell of a job reviewing this reel.
My 8500 Spinfisher vi went overboard on my kayak offshore and dangled by my leader 4 feet underwater for about 15 seconds and it ended up totally full of saltwater and bricked a week later. Smelled like the sea when I cracked open the side plate and the insides were toast. I had been using the reel for 2 years at that point though so it was well worth the money.
I was on the fence between this reel & the Slammer. I'm leaning more towards the LL model for "chunking". Great videos with tons of useful info . Thanks!
That's great news because yesterday I bought a Penn Spinfisher 6 & a Slammer 3 for my spining & surf fishing set-up's. Can"t wait to go fishing for Bass & Cod in Cornwall next week.
Thanks to teach us everything related to reels. Different reels to rule one thing, a fish. Some better than others with its weakness but at the end all of them are created to enjoy fishing.I understand that most people like us want to spent money wisely. At the end a better reel don't make us a better fisherman. Happy fishing!!
Sealing that isn't bullshit, how refreshing :) I've had the main bearing on a BG SW seize after a year and looking for something that won't seize up so easily without large amounts of water intrusion
I won`t give up your Shimano or Daiwa reels...Just add Penn in as part of your arsenal like I did...Having multiple reels is like having the right tools for different jobs.
This is why competition is good. Other manufacturers will have an answer for this. You really think Shimano and Daiwa want cheap china made crap like Penn to have a leg up on them?
nice! looking to replace my shimano ultegra 5500 with spinfisher vi 5500LC. i need the extra casting distance, and from time to time i go on fishing trips to uninhabited islands. i was comparing surfblaster, spinfisher vi LC series, tsunami shield and daiwa bg.. i have a spinfisher v 6500 which is still great! been using it for like 3 years now. and now TA says it good! :D am gonna buy this one!
Tackle Advisors anytime! I am well despite all of the fires 🔥 out here! California always seems to have something going on! Hope all is well with you, looking forward to the Tatula!
Dude! Love your videos. These are making the Spinfisher V cheap. I bought a Spinfisher V yesterday for $80 bucks. Great boat reel. Taking it out after Sheeps and Reds tomorrow. Can't wait for the Tsunami Salt X review from you. I think I'll buy one. Already have the Shield. Get us a tear down of the Salt X please!
My spinfisher 6 became almost unusable after taking it out on the kayak in the surf one time. It makes a horrible noise and feels like a $25 Walmart reel when you crank it. I’ve since upgraded to the slammer and I couldn’t be happier. It’s worth every penny extra.
Thanks for another great vid! Looks pretty good to me. Penn has gotten better for sure and I think the slammer 3 definitely proved that. In the past I think my problems with them have been more quality control related. So if I can just cross my fingers and get a good batch of these I think it would hold up well in the salt. Thanks again for all the work you put into these videos! 👊👍
The Slammer 3 is my next reel to cover me for 65 lb braid....I`ve been hearing most people who have one say it`s an awesome reel!...I have both Spinfishers and BGs and love them both...I didn`t however have very good luck with the Penn Battle 2...The gears stripped within a couple of years but in all fairness I also dropped this reel a few times in saltwater which is a big mistake...I was however able to get parts and it was reasonable.
MrGb4ever Get a Slammer 3 and you won't regret it. If your a Penn guy a slammer 3 is THE reel. If your a Shimano guy the Saragosa is THE reel. These reels give you a huge bang for your buck!
Thanks for the feedback Bro!...I use Penn, Daiwa and Shimano but I`m not faithful to one company...I buy their equipment only if I feel I`m getting quality for a reasonable price but I`m also open to other companies as well if they are making quality equipment...And you`re right, the Saragosa is a good reel and reasonably priced!...Thanks again!
It sounds funny....but the setup I built (and this was the first time using it) It's soooooo bright.....to my eyes it seems dark..and some things I can't see with my naked eye. ((I filmed it using a polorized lens to take away some of the glare before i get it 100% dialed in.......You couldn't see my facial expression when I squirted the water straight intot the clutch sleeve.......I felt like punching myself......lol
Hey tackle advisor any chance we are going to see a review on that daiwa emeraldas i seen in your "smoothest $200 reel" video? Love your work mate keep it up cheers
Thanks!! Glad you find it informative..........The simple answer.....it was too tight a fit :) but at the same time...it didn't matter the seal is on the gear axle...If it were a daiwa saltist or back bay or fuego ballistic lt....it would have been compromised
Tackle Advisors Thnx for ur quick answer , please do keep these vids comming ,so many friends of mine n me consider ur channel one of the best there is , it's the way u tackle every bit in ur hand that makes ur vids so interresting .
Could you do a casting test between a spinfisher and a same sized Longcast (Lc) spinfisher. Use the same type of line and rod. Id like to see how much actual distance you can gain because of the LC features, namely spool design and slow oscillation line lay. Is a LC reel really worth it or is it just hype? You’re just the guy to do a honest test.
Added seal at the anti reverse one off switch. Worm gear oscillation with very slow oscillation identical to the ultegra. I don't know about the 4500 but the 6500 I have has brass gears. (standard spinfisher gets brass at 6500 as well). Metal rotor. It's really the only rugged surf long cast reel I've seen
I recently bought the Penn 4500 VI Bailess and sampled a bunch of Penn SS VI reels over the counter and the gearing in them are very smooth equally to the Daiwa BG 4000 & 4500 reels I bought last summer, Penn defiantly improved the CNC gears in the new SSVI. I'm curious to know what's your take on the retainer cup that you couldn't remove to get at the pinion and lower bearing on this VI reel because I never had a problem with it working on all my Penn reels except my old Sargus that I used for a while and stopped using it and when I decided to open and maintain the reel the retaining cup was fused to the metal of the housing and I couldn't remove it, and I wound up scraping that old reel for parts. FYI, If it ain't broken don't fix it I'm not opening my new reels unless they need to be repaired in the future. Your autopsy breakdown videos have been a very helpful and a very insightful tool for maintaining all these reels, keep up the good work, THKS !
Bro is the 4500 VI heavy reel not light in wright ??..or it u can use it in different filelds not only surfing or casting....pls tell me what is ur experince with this reel cause ill buy it this week 😊
@@morganahmed6245 I have the Penn Bailess 4500 reel it's not a bad reel and I bought it over the counter in 2018 @ my local bait & tackle store. The weak point is I wish the reel was a little bit bigger. It's not pervious to the elements and sand got caught up underneath of the rotor head it messed up the gearing. I changed the gears myself and it works okay now. As far as value & weight it's about the same as the Daiwa BG 4000, and the 4500 VI is a slightly smaller reel and as far as being water proof they're about the same, but the Penn is not as smooth as the Daiwa BG. The thing is every Penn reel I have ever bought on line that looked like a bargain wound up being a lemon where the reel that I bought what seemed to be a factory second and the gears weren't smooth and I replaced gears myself to make them work right. Buying a reel on line that might look like a bargain and may wind up being a lemon and a real hassle to repair. I recently purchased a NIB older model Penn Clash on sale this past February over the counter and it's smooth. My advice to you is not to buy a reel on line. When you go to your tackle store you can hold the reel in your hand and feel how the gearing feels when you crank it. When you see a reel for sale on eBay and read the posting by the seller that says New & Refurbished means he's selling refurbished factory seconds & returns for what you'd think is a bargain, but they're defective ! And you'll see the guy selling the same reels that aren't refurbished for the regular price. Beware, your best bet is even if you pay the regular price over the counter at least you know what you're getting on the spot and won't be disappointed. Be Well - Peace.
@@franktheo2055 thank u very much brother for ur reply...im thinking to get the Daiwa back bay LT 4000 as i heared this reel is better than penn 4500 VI but im afraid that the DAIWA BACK BAY will break fast when u fight big fish 😔😔
@@morganahmed6245 The Daiwa Saltist Back Bay is a much better choice with a magsealed pinion to protect the ball baring under the rotor. It's a smoother reel and made with better quality parts. I own the BG 4000 & 4500 and though they're less expensive than most reels but you can't bet Daiwa for craftsmen & quality for the price. This link shows you a full breakdown of the BG 4000 done by Tackle Advisors. ua-cam.com/video/qSm551v_gBc/v-deo.html. He also dose the breakdown of the Daiwa Saltist on UA-cam as well.
@@franktheo2055 so you recommend the Daiwa Back Bay 4000 over the Penn spinfisher VI ???cause the most important for me is it should he tough and hold on the big fight with huge fish and the smoothness is the most important thing as well.......cause i sae many reviews saying that the BACK BAY doesnot last for long time and it breaks fast after fights with big fish in the salt water
Nice video. On another note, why is no one talking about the Spinfisher VI that has a 4.3:1 gear ratio and 37” inches per turn? Nice torque for a spinning reel imo.
The graphite rotor in the smaller sizes takes a bit of weight out of the rotor but the paint sucks. The gearing is pretty much the same on larger sizes. The drag on te slammer is more capable at higher pressures but the spinfisher can get much looser (slammer drag's lighters setting is around 2lbs where the spinfish is ounces) I'd go Spinfisher in smaller sizes slammer in larger I like the eva knob on the slammer/ clash over the T knob on this/ battle 2
Wuzzup Mr Buggums! I'll tell ya what brother.....time flies! I have tons on the bench...(and it's a new bench I just built specific for this stuff) I have a Kastking, a fancy new shimano and abu on the bench in various stages of undress right now...plus all the other new penns spinfishers. In addition to about a dozen other things i'm working or re working on. This penn thing was just simple....as it didn't require hundreds of pounds of fish to do ahead of a full review. But I think the next reel vid will be the Bantam MGL and dirt cheap hooks that are are par with owners.
Missed your reel reviews too. Bantam MGL, JDM Daiwa Catalina TW (baitcaster) and the new Tranx 200 are very high on my shortlist for the next reel. Happy to see you reviewing the Bantam!
And one more thing,you mentioned about surf proofing/greasing that daiwa exceller..do you have a video of it? Kinda interested on it..rather than getting a fuego LT..thanks again
Hi mate, just a quick question I can't seem to find any info on it anywhere. Is the main and pinion gear in the new spinfishers 7500 and up the same as in the old ones or have the upgraded it?
looks good but is a bit rickety....a tiny bit less slop.....and it would be good...a little slop is good for a reel tthat is going to see abuse. This has a bit much
Better value for what you get. But time will tell if it performs better. Gosa has a better drag stack. The old spin fisher v had a seemingly better drag design too. Gosa has a better AR clutch seal. And is a tad smoother. Well... Because shimano. But the larger spinfisher gets a metal rotor and brass main gearing.... Which definitely could put it at Gosa sustainability... But again... I don't have the time on it yet to say for sure
Looking forward to get this reel,size 5500,would you do a maintenace of the penn spinfisher VI,the same vid you made with the BG? It would be very helpful for us interested to that reel..thanks!
planning to buy Penn Clash, after seeing this i probably choose this one, but hoping to have a recommendation from you, haven't see any review from Penn Clash from you :D
I'd go Spinfisher. And I think you can buy the clash handle assembly if you want a round knob. I haven't fished the clash for more than 5 minutes. It was a nice upgrade to the battle 2 when it came out. But so was the spinfisher.....The clash was a battle 2 with upgrades....teh spinfisher vi is an upgrade to both imho
Good video man, look forward to the next one. Just wondering if you know the release date as I'm in Australia and I got told the 10/8/18 but to me that means in like 9 days aha?
I just can’t across this video now. I sell fishing tackle at a large outfitter and we are constantly selling out of all models of these new penn spinfisher VI’s
Does anyone have any idea how much money you`d have to spend for Daiwa or Shimano in order for it to be made in Japan?...I may be wrong but the only two spinning reels I know of is the Stella and Saltiga.
certate hd ? some cheap prices on em since they didn't sell well in japan and some jdm distribution found it's way here and was allowed to be sold cheaply. The exsence is japan but small. Twinpower sw? can't remember of hand. But that's it really I think
Hi there, love you vids. Hey does the new spinfisher VI have the same weird pinion support as you show in the slammer 3 video? I am now worried as I have bought the 8500 model Slammer III, and I will be using it to catch large sharks. Should I have got the 10500 Slammer III? I heard you mention that the 9500/10500 slammer III has a better support (if that's the case, what supports it in the 2 largest models? I haven't spooled it up yet or used it so I could swap it for the 10500/9500. Would you suggest this size for large Amberjacks/Sharks/Groupers ?. Also is there any difference internally between the spinfisher VI & slammer III? I know they both have brass CNC cut gears etc. Also I have access to new old stock saltiga s-extreme (pre-mag sealed) in maroon/silver. You mention above they are waterproof? also would this be a good buy for $800 u.s.? Thank you for your help & awesome knowledge so much! David down under :)
Hey, I thought the spinfisher VI has brass main gear? is the one you are showing not brass 'cos it is a pre-production demo reel maybe? also does the spinfisher VI have a brass oscillation gear ?(even though I know you said in slammer III vid it doesn't matter what that is made from) Cheers heaps again, David
I'm from New Zealand and our westcoast, open sand, surf fishing for dimersals is best done by getting out on a distant sand bar and hiffing 5-6oz of lead on a 13-15' rod a long way with deadbait. So a longcast reel that can truely take a dunk on the way out to the sandbar is the thing everyone wants but no-one can really find... ...is it finally here?
Thanks Michael......it's a bit tricky....Mine lacked the hydrophobic coating found on this one.. I asked penn what was up and they said it should be there but it's likely missing due to it being pre production. Assuming it's supposed to be there.....The axle seals, perimeter seals and sealed bearings are the same throughout...the differnce is the shape of the top pinion bearing retainer cover......with a fancy perimeter seal up top there.....and the ani revers on off switch uses a flat rubber seal. So it's the most sealed LC reel we have seen stateside....It is a worm gear and lays line very nicely. It's more sealed than any shimano LC reel outside the Fliegen (which i'm not 100% sure on how they do it) But all that said.....all the other LC reels are carp reels....this is very obviously NOT..it's heavy and very overbuilt. No wirey handles or bails...thick main shaft and heavy gauge guts and internal support rods.....Great reel actually. Quite surprised
Tackle Advisors SOLD! Hahaha, many thanks for that run-down. The last spinfisher was the most watertight LC I know of (outside of a handful of top end JDM reels) and to see the improvement in this new generation is awesome, hopefully it's available here for our summer. Cheers!
Hi I’m a weekend warrior, fishing off pier and occasional jetty’s. Which do you recommend for me saragosa, slammer or spinfisher? Planning to match it with 8-9 ft surf rod for live bait, cut bait and lures. Thank you for all your effort in reviewing reels you are awesome! God bless!
Tackle Advisors but do you think spinfisher vi I ill be the best bang for my buck? Since I’m just a weekend warrior and its not every week probably 25 trips a year or less.
I think it's a great reel for the money. But the gosa is sealed to a higher level. Keeping the elements out equals longevity. It's an all round better reel. The spheros is the same reel minus dual drag stack and different bail wire.
Throw a dart is the best I got. Bait runners are proven. The ssvi is proving to be a great reel. I like what I see out of the ssvi with my time on it so far.
@@TackleAdvisors sadly i did not catch it.. i watched it slowly float off towards the sea... and by now i think its been like 2 weeks.. u think it is a rust ball now?
@@TackleAdvisors hah even if i did get it the bail might be destroyed, as it fell down the jetty it did a couple bounces and scrapes, and for a second i considered jumping in but i wasnt gonna get killed against those rocks just to get an expensive rod. i also took a cheap shakespear reel that i started off with and i put a drill on the handle and made it go speedy.
Just haven't gotten around to them in all honesty. Haven't used many of their reels other than one recently and not for much time.. Definitely not enough to form an opinion other than it's just a reel lol
Yes. I like everything about it. Great line lay. Very smooth. Great drag. Only thing I don't like is the handle knob. But it's not the end of the world
@@NasalObstruction Yeah. Not the end of the world. But odd. The metanium dc's dc brake coating had the same effect. But it peeled back and hit the spool causing issues. Had to melt it until smooth again lol. Only other time alcohol damaged paint in my experience. (not saying there aren't any others that it would. Just none i came across.
also worth mentioning that it's line lay is more even in appearance than the saragossa's. Fished a friends 6k last night and we compared them. (for what that's worth
I was told it is the same as the slammer.....I even asked if there was an adhesive or something..they said nope....But it's important to mention they are pre production models.....the long cast version they sent is missing the hydrophobic coating entirely (and when i asked they said it will be there....) I noticed on another teardown by a penn shill...he didn't take the pinion out on his either which i immediately called out but didn't get a reply ((he hates me because I call him on his shillyness))
thanks Nick ! I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about , lmao. on the 4500 the main gear is aluminum , right ? what is the oscillation gear made from , cast aluminum or zinc ?
I knew it , lol..I used to get on that forum a little bit. bridgetender is my username. he needs to change his name to "the self ordained minister" : p
Always good to see a fellow SOLer here. I think he needs to go fishing......for something other than a once a decade tuna charter. Ya know he said he caught a bunch of yellowfin on a torque one...even posted pics of the fish......well the captain of the boat posted them pics the day after the charter on his site (caught on stellas).....and the torque wasn't even on the market for 2 or 3 years. And he injured himself palming th espool boatside when it made a run..lol
Every single thing is greatly improved....Better gear materials, line lay looks better...line management is much better. Seals seals and more seals backed by sealed ball bearings. better spool support ONly thing that could be a down grade is a ball bearing line roller....sometimes a bushing is better....as it won't corrode.....but that's it. better finish.....I have it sitting next to a battle 2 4500 gonna do a side by side tear down
It's a slammer 3 with a graphite rotor alu main gear and zinc oscillation gear and top only drag stack with a stainless steel main shaft. IN larger sizes it's even closer to the slamer
Do you need a metal rotor and an obscene amount of drag? Aside from that...in smaller sizes you only lose out on the brass gear (which is a helluva gear) But for the money....Spinfisher..... I go into the differences here www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/topic/735842-2019-penn-spinfisher-vi-1-hour-submersion-testbecausewhy-not/
james loerzel i have no idea about regular spinfisher aside from spinfisher 7500lc but slammer 3 is awsome by all means , stronger gears and better seals .
Fresh......Though correct me if i'm wrong. Salinity wouldn't effect it's ability to bypass the seals. Which was what I was trying to figure out. FW would just need to be blown out and air dried...Salt would need a complete tear down, strip and full lube job...Not worth the time and effort for a simple quasi silly room temp dunk test.
www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/topic/735842-2019-penn-spinfisher-vi-1-hour-submersion-test-resultsbecausewhy-not/ Penn outline the differences in the comments here TLDR the seals are the same but the slammer 3 is made out of better quality pieces and has a different drag, aswell as some other benefits
Zarek Cruz yeah the spinfisher series all together is real nice, even the older ones. V and VI are both really sweet. My friend has the V 6500 and I have the VI 6500 bailess. Both are great under harsh conditions.
Penn has gotten better over the years. This is good to see. Glad you conduct these tests to show the validity of a reel manufacturers claims. I owned a slammer V and it was the first serious reel I ever owned and it kicked ass. I'll be looking to get one of these come Christmas
And Rew based on what? The only thing that can suggest that is the fact they come of an assembly line in China giving way to inconsistencies. My own personal experience with Penn has yet to leave me with an issue
And Rew but they still catch fish right? Only until recently, you got what you pay for. But look at the BG by daiwa. The reel is 100 bucks and it performs like a 300 dollar reel. The tech in reels is getting cheaper to put in bargin priced reels lately. It's no shock that penn is making really good stuff lately, but youre seeing that in their 200+ dollar reels. Not super cheap, but not shimano prices either. But that being said, I have a penn clash 6000 that caught me 27 blackfins from 6 to 24 pounds over three jigging trips. Reel still works fine. Caught a 120 pound lemon shark on a 6500 Spinfisher V, landed it and the reel still worked fine.
And Rew my point is they started getting better again with the spinfisher v and the torque around 2012. When pure fishing bought them, they kept getting better year after year. Kind of hard for me to say they've gotten better only recently. I am aware several were coming of the line defective, but I've seen reels of all prices by all manufacturers faiI. But I caught fish on trips to the same extent everyone around me was when they were using shimanos, daiwas etc., and without issue.
That was a fantastic review. Great to get an independent perspective and see such good results. As always, thanks a million for another brilliant review. Dave
Just found your channel. Liked and subscribed immediately. Bought my first Penn reel, a 3500 Slammer 4 2 years ago. Line lay was awful from the outside and I had to remove all the washers to get the properly. Hope the Slammer is as tough as the reel in the video.
All the best and tight lines
Have no idea how I found your channel but I’m damn sure glad I did
Yes, but will it pass the Berkely gulp juice submersion test? That shit can pass through any seal.
I ain’t no scientist but black smegma is not good.
LMAO
Great review, gonna purchase it. This is gonna be perfect to surf fish the bull red run down here in Texas. You did a hell of a job reviewing this reel.
Nice review of it yourself Bomber. Too bad about the quiet clicker, I still might pick one up if they go on sale.
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@@qwiswaz9774 elite af man
My 8500 Spinfisher vi went overboard on my kayak offshore and dangled by my leader 4 feet underwater for about 15 seconds and it ended up totally full of saltwater and bricked a week later. Smelled like the sea when I cracked open the side plate and the insides were toast.
I had been using the reel for 2 years at that point though so it was well worth the money.
Wow penn has really stepped up their game recently! Good to see and awesome vid keep them coming
I was on the fence between this reel & the Slammer. I'm leaning more towards the LL model for "chunking". Great videos with tons of useful info . Thanks!
That's great news because yesterday I bought a Penn Spinfisher 6 & a Slammer 3 for my spining & surf fishing set-up's. Can"t wait to go fishing for Bass & Cod in Cornwall next week.
Thanks to teach us everything related to reels. Different reels to rule one thing, a fish. Some better than others with its weakness but at the end all of them are created to enjoy fishing.I understand that most people like us want to spent money wisely. At the end a better reel don't make us a better fisherman. Happy fishing!!
Sealing that isn't bullshit, how refreshing :)
I've had the main bearing on a BG SW seize after a year and looking for something that won't seize up so easily without large amounts of water intrusion
Damn your objectivity, now I have to consider Penn for my next reel. Never thought I would have to leave the Shimano/Daiwa bubble!
I won`t give up your Shimano or Daiwa reels...Just add Penn in as part of your arsenal like I did...Having multiple reels is like having the right tools for different jobs.
Stick with Daiwa or Shimano. They'll have an answer for this reel.
True, but I'm talking about a specific slot for a med sized surf reel
be interesting to see what they come up with, esp daiwa...they have no sealed anything in that price range!
This is why competition is good. Other manufacturers will have an answer for this.
You really think Shimano and Daiwa want cheap china made crap like Penn to have a leg up on them?
nice! looking to replace my shimano ultegra 5500 with spinfisher vi 5500LC. i need the extra casting distance, and from time to time i go on fishing trips to uninhabited islands. i was comparing surfblaster, spinfisher vi LC series, tsunami shield and daiwa bg.. i have a spinfisher v 6500 which is still great! been using it for like 3 years now. and now TA says it good! :D am gonna buy this one!
As always the day is better with a new video from you. I had been watching your updates on Instagram.
Hey bud...Thanks for the kind words!!! Hope all is well!!
Tackle Advisors anytime! I am well despite all of the fires 🔥 out here! California always seems to have something going on! Hope all is well with you, looking forward to the Tatula!
Dude! Love your videos. These are making the Spinfisher V cheap. I bought a Spinfisher V yesterday for $80 bucks. Great boat reel. Taking it out after Sheeps and Reds tomorrow. Can't wait for the Tsunami Salt X review from you. I think I'll buy one. Already have the Shield. Get us a tear down of the Salt X please!
My spinfisher 6 became almost unusable after taking it out on the kayak in the surf one time. It makes a horrible noise and feels like a $25 Walmart reel when you crank it. I’ve since upgraded to the slammer and I couldn’t be happier. It’s worth every penny extra.
Thanks for another great vid! Looks pretty good to me. Penn has gotten better for sure and I think the slammer 3 definitely proved that. In the past I think my problems with them have been more quality control related. So if I can just cross my fingers and get a good batch of these I think it would hold up well in the salt. Thanks again for all the work you put into these videos! 👊👍
The Slammer 3 is my next reel to cover me for 65 lb braid....I`ve been hearing most people who have one say it`s an awesome reel!...I have both Spinfishers and BGs and love them both...I didn`t however have very good luck with the Penn Battle 2...The gears stripped within a couple of years but in all fairness I also dropped this reel a few times in saltwater which is a big mistake...I was however able to get parts and it was reasonable.
MrGb4ever Get a Slammer 3 and you won't regret it. If your a Penn guy a slammer 3 is THE reel. If your a Shimano guy the Saragosa is THE reel. These reels give you a huge bang for your buck!
Thanks for the feedback Bro!...I use Penn, Daiwa and Shimano but I`m not faithful to one company...I buy their equipment only if I feel I`m getting quality for a reasonable price but I`m also open to other companies as well if they are making quality equipment...And you`re right, the Saragosa is a good reel and reasonably priced!...Thanks again!
And I really like the gosa's cranking power!
Been waiting for this video!
nice review! who else was bothered that he didn't remove all the water bead before disassembly after all that work!
It sounds funny....but the setup I built (and this was the first time using it) It's soooooo bright.....to my eyes it seems dark..and some things I can't see with my naked eye. ((I filmed it using a polorized lens to take away some of the glare before i get it 100% dialed in.......You couldn't see my facial expression when I squirted the water straight intot the clutch sleeve.......I felt like punching myself......lol
haha, great informative channel though, i guess we are all geeks, but you provide a lot of useful ,objective substance.
nice review.. it is definitely something to consider when buying another reel.
Nice! Its because of people like you that fishing manufacturers are stepping their game up... which is good for me lol
I prefer to be a pennocrat than a democrat, LOL!
Hey tackle advisor any chance we are going to see a review on that daiwa emeraldas i seen in your "smoothest $200 reel" video? Love your work mate keep it up cheers
Nice review as always , learning alot just by watching ur videos millions thnx , one Q why did u submerged the reel without the handle ?
Thanks!! Glad you find it informative..........The simple answer.....it was too tight a fit :) but at the same time...it didn't matter the seal is on the gear axle...If it were a daiwa saltist or back bay or fuego ballistic lt....it would have been compromised
Tackle Advisors
Thnx for ur quick answer , please do keep these vids comming ,so many friends of mine n me consider ur channel one of the best there is , it's the way u tackle every bit in ur hand that makes ur vids so interresting .
Could you do a casting test between a spinfisher and a same sized Longcast (Lc) spinfisher. Use the same type of line and rod. Id like to see how much actual distance you can gain because of the LC features, namely spool design and slow oscillation line lay. Is a LC reel really worth it or is it just hype? You’re just the guy to do a honest test.
Can't go wrong with these new Penn's, you certainly get your money worth.
May i know if the Long Cast version of this reel has the same construction/materials,design and waterproofing properties?
Added seal at the anti reverse one off switch. Worm gear oscillation with very slow oscillation identical to the ultegra. I don't know about the 4500 but the 6500 I have has brass gears. (standard spinfisher gets brass at 6500 as well). Metal rotor. It's really the only rugged surf long cast reel I've seen
@@TackleAdvisors thank you for the prompt reply. I hope the bottom face of the pinion does not rub against the pinion support.
Really want your review on their new LL spinfisher and what you think of the multi drag settings for this feature! Also the longcast reels tooo!!
I like my spinfisher v. Thanks for the review.
how about doing this with the live liner version?
I recently bought the Penn 4500 VI Bailess and sampled a bunch of Penn SS VI reels over the counter and the gearing in them are very smooth equally to the Daiwa BG 4000 & 4500 reels I bought last summer, Penn defiantly improved the CNC gears in the new SSVI.
I'm curious to know what's your take on the retainer cup that you couldn't remove to get at the pinion and lower bearing on this VI reel because I never had a problem with it working on all my Penn reels except my old Sargus that I used for a while and stopped using it and when I decided to open and maintain the reel the retaining cup was fused to the metal of the housing and I couldn't remove it, and I wound up scraping that old reel for parts.
FYI, If it ain't broken don't fix it I'm not opening my new reels unless they need to be repaired in the future. Your autopsy breakdown videos have been a very helpful and a very insightful tool for maintaining all these reels, keep up the good work, THKS !
Bro is the 4500 VI heavy reel not light in wright ??..or it u can use it in different filelds not only surfing or casting....pls tell me what is ur experince with this reel cause ill buy it this week 😊
@@morganahmed6245 I have the Penn Bailess 4500 reel it's not a bad reel and I bought it over the counter in 2018 @ my local bait & tackle store. The weak point is I wish the reel was a little bit bigger. It's not pervious to the elements and sand got caught up underneath of the rotor head it messed up the gearing. I changed the gears myself and it works okay now. As far as value & weight it's about the same as the Daiwa BG 4000, and the 4500 VI is a slightly smaller reel and as far as being water proof they're about the same, but the Penn is not as smooth as the Daiwa BG.
The thing is every Penn reel I have ever bought on line that looked like a bargain wound up being a lemon where the reel that I bought what seemed to be a factory second and the gears weren't smooth and I replaced gears myself to make them work right. Buying a reel on line that might look like a bargain and may wind up being a lemon and a real hassle to repair. I recently purchased a NIB older model Penn Clash on sale this past February over the counter and it's smooth. My advice to you is not to buy a reel on line. When you go to your tackle store you can hold the reel in your hand and feel how the gearing feels when you crank it. When you see a reel for sale on eBay and read the posting by the seller that says New & Refurbished means he's selling refurbished factory seconds & returns for what you'd think is a bargain, but they're defective ! And you'll see the guy selling the same reels that aren't refurbished for the regular price. Beware, your best bet is even if you pay the regular price over the counter at least you know what you're getting on the spot and won't be disappointed. Be Well - Peace.
@@franktheo2055 thank u very much brother for ur reply...im thinking to get the
Daiwa back bay LT 4000
as i heared this reel is better than penn 4500 VI
but im afraid that the DAIWA BACK BAY will break fast when u fight big fish
😔😔
@@morganahmed6245 The Daiwa Saltist Back Bay is a much better choice with a magsealed pinion to protect the ball baring under the rotor. It's a smoother reel and made with better quality parts. I own the BG 4000 & 4500 and though they're less expensive than most reels but you can't bet Daiwa for craftsmen & quality for the price. This link shows you a full breakdown of the BG 4000 done by Tackle Advisors. ua-cam.com/video/qSm551v_gBc/v-deo.html. He also dose the breakdown of the Daiwa Saltist on UA-cam as well.
@@franktheo2055 so you recommend the Daiwa Back Bay 4000 over the Penn spinfisher VI ???cause the most important for me is it should he tough and hold on the big fight with huge fish and the smoothness is the most important thing as well.......cause i sae many reviews saying that the BACK BAY doesnot last for long time and it breaks fast after fights with big fish in the salt water
Cool reel. Thx for depth review man 👍🏼
Nice video. On another note, why is no one talking about the Spinfisher VI that has a 4.3:1 gear ratio and 37” inches per turn? Nice torque for a spinning reel imo.
So.... how does this compare to the slammer 3? What would you put your money on? This reel seems to be better with the lighter handle as well.
The graphite rotor in the smaller sizes takes a bit of weight out of the rotor but the paint sucks.
The gearing is pretty much the same on larger sizes.
The drag on te slammer is more capable at higher pressures but the spinfisher can get much looser (slammer drag's lighters setting is around 2lbs where the spinfish is ounces)
I'd go Spinfisher in smaller sizes slammer in larger
I like the eva knob on the slammer/ clash over the T knob on this/ battle 2
@@TackleAdvisors Thank you! Respect your knowledge and input on the fishing industry.
My SSV 5500 was in the 1.5m water for 10 minutes, the whole body was full with water. Later I had problem with the clutch...
Aleksandar Jurisic Lol 😂
That water on the clutch sleeve is disconcerting. If that was salt water what would happen to the a/r? I would have liked to see that dry.
It would slip...
Nice review of definitely looks water resistant, can you compare it to the previous model as far as new gears? Thanks in advance.
Told ya i thought this looked like it might be pretty good. If the price drops down like we were talking about on sale it will be a steal!
is there any chance we will see a review on the new shimano ultegra ci4 ?
I’ve missed your videos bro hope all is well !
Wuzzup Mr Buggums! I'll tell ya what brother.....time flies! I have tons on the bench...(and it's a new bench I just built specific for this stuff)
I have a Kastking, a fancy new shimano and abu on the bench in various stages of undress right now...plus all the other new penns spinfishers. In addition to about a dozen other things i'm working or re working on. This penn thing was just simple....as it didn't require hundreds of pounds of fish to do ahead of a full review. But I think the next reel vid will be the Bantam MGL and dirt cheap hooks that are are par with owners.
Tackle Advisors awesome bro can’t wait to see it 👍
Missed your reel reviews too. Bantam MGL, JDM Daiwa Catalina TW (baitcaster) and the new Tranx 200 are very high on my shortlist for the next reel. Happy to see you reviewing the Bantam!
And one more thing,you mentioned about surf proofing/greasing that daiwa exceller..do you have a video of it? Kinda interested on it..rather than getting a fuego LT..thanks again
Did you use saltwater?
Thank you so much for this. Have you done this test with BG MQ? I'm trying to decide between the two.
Hi mate, just a quick question I can't seem to find any info on it anywhere. Is the main and pinion gear in the new spinfishers 7500 and up the same as in the old ones or have the upgraded it?
The black handle is pretty sick
looks good but is a bit rickety....a tiny bit less slop.....and it would be good...a little slop is good for a reel tthat is going to see abuse. This has a bit much
@@TackleAdvisors was this test been done with salt or fresh water,?
so if you crank the handle the centrifugal force and hydrophobic coating will push the remaining water out?
can someone pls answer this question
do you think that the water in the clutch sleeve came from the accidental squirt or the dunk test?
Do you think spinfisher vi Iris better than sarsgosa????
Better value for what you get. But time will tell if it performs better. Gosa has a better drag stack. The old spin fisher v had a seemingly better drag design too. Gosa has a better AR clutch seal. And is a tad smoother. Well... Because shimano. But the larger spinfisher gets a metal rotor and brass main gearing.... Which definitely could put it at Gosa sustainability... But again... I don't have the time on it yet to say for sure
Looking forward to get this reel,size 5500,would you do a maintenace of the penn spinfisher VI,the same vid you made with the BG? It would be very helpful for us interested to that reel..thanks!
Agree, please Scoob
planning to buy Penn Clash, after seeing this i probably choose this one, but hoping to have a recommendation from you, haven't see any review from Penn Clash from you :D
I'd go Spinfisher. And I think you can buy the clash handle assembly if you want a round knob.
I haven't fished the clash for more than 5 minutes. It was a nice upgrade to the battle 2 when it came out. But so was the spinfisher.....The clash was a battle 2 with upgrades....teh spinfisher vi is an upgrade to both imho
@@TackleAdvisors Thank you sir!
Good video man, look forward to the next one. Just wondering if you know the release date as I'm in Australia and I got told the 10/8/18 but to me that means in like 9 days aha?
I think us release is in November according to their publications
OK awesome, seeing US is a better market and where they are from, I doubt we'll get it before you guys. Good video thanks again.
If I took apart a reel like this, it would never get put back together. So thank you for the video👍👍👍
😂 for real
I just can’t across this video now. I sell fishing tackle at a large outfitter and we are constantly selling out of all models of these new penn spinfisher VI’s
R u going to be doing a review of the 4000 backbay or not because it’s the same as the 2500
Does anyone have any idea how much money you`d have to spend for Daiwa or Shimano in order for it to be made in Japan?...I may be wrong but the only two spinning reels I know of is the Stella and Saltiga.
certate hd ? some cheap prices on em since they didn't sell well in japan and some jdm distribution found it's way here and was allowed to be sold cheaply. The exsence is japan but small. Twinpower sw? can't remember of hand. But that's it really I think
Thanks!
Hi there, love you vids. Hey does the new spinfisher VI have the same weird pinion support as you show in the slammer 3 video? I am now worried as I have bought the 8500 model Slammer III, and I will be using it to catch large sharks. Should I have got the 10500 Slammer III? I heard you mention that the 9500/10500 slammer III has a better support (if that's the case, what supports it in the 2 largest models? I haven't spooled it up yet or used it so I could swap it for the 10500/9500. Would you suggest this size for large Amberjacks/Sharks/Groupers ?. Also is there any difference internally between the spinfisher VI & slammer III? I know they both have brass CNC cut gears etc. Also I have access to new old stock saltiga s-extreme (pre-mag sealed) in maroon/silver. You mention above they are waterproof? also would this be a good buy for $800 u.s.? Thank you for your help & awesome knowledge so much! David down under :)
Hey, I thought the spinfisher VI has brass main gear? is the one you are showing not brass 'cos it is a pre-production demo reel maybe? also does the spinfisher VI have a brass oscillation gear ?(even though I know you said in slammer III vid it doesn't matter what that is made from) Cheers heaps again, David
6500 and up will have
Hi There, recently discovered your channel and loving it! Can you comment on how well sealed tge longcast version of this reel is?
I'm from New Zealand and our westcoast, open sand, surf fishing for dimersals is best done by getting out on a distant sand bar and hiffing 5-6oz of lead on a 13-15' rod a long way with deadbait. So a longcast reel that can truely take a dunk on the way out to the sandbar is the thing everyone wants but no-one can really find... ...is it finally here?
Thanks Michael......it's a bit tricky....Mine lacked the hydrophobic coating found on this one.. I asked penn what was up and they said it should be there but it's likely missing due to it being pre production. Assuming it's supposed to be there.....The axle seals, perimeter seals and sealed bearings are the same throughout...the differnce is the shape of the top pinion bearing retainer cover......with a fancy perimeter seal up top there.....and the ani revers on off switch uses a flat rubber seal. So it's the most sealed LC reel we have seen stateside....It is a worm gear and lays line very nicely. It's more sealed than any shimano LC reel outside the Fliegen (which i'm not 100% sure on how they do it)
But all that said.....all the other LC reels are carp reels....this is very obviously NOT..it's heavy and very overbuilt. No wirey handles or bails...thick main shaft and heavy gauge guts and internal support rods.....Great reel actually. Quite surprised
Tackle Advisors SOLD! Hahaha, many thanks for that run-down. The last spinfisher was the most watertight LC I know of (outside of a handful of top end JDM reels) and to see the improvement in this new generation is awesome, hopefully it's available here for our summer. Cheers!
Hi I’m a weekend warrior, fishing off pier and occasional jetty’s. Which do you recommend for me saragosa, slammer or spinfisher? Planning to match it with 8-9 ft surf rod for live bait, cut bait and lures. Thank you for all your effort in reviewing reels you are awesome! God bless!
Hey man. Honestly any of them would be a good choice. Though I think the 6k gosa is gonna be the most enjoyable to fish
Tackle Advisors nice thanks a lot! God bless!
Tackle Advisors but do you think spinfisher vi I ill be the best bang for my buck? Since I’m just a weekend warrior and its not every week probably 25 trips a year or less.
I think it's a great reel for the money. But the gosa is sealed to a higher level. Keeping the elements out equals longevity. It's an all round better reel. The spheros is the same reel minus dual drag stack and different bail wire.
Tackle Advisors thank you so much!
Is the drag just as good as the one on the SSV? I noticed they went from a dual to single stack drag
Was it salt water you had it submerged for 3 hours?
Still primitive with the oscillating bracket there. They need to put a shaft on it. Other brands moved light years ahead of Penn already.
Is it Fresh wayer
Shimano Baitrunner D or Spinfisher vi liver liner? Which one is a better reel? Thanks!
Throw a dart is the best I got. Bait runners are proven. The ssvi is proving to be a great reel. I like what I see out of the ssvi with my time on it so far.
What is the difference between pen reels and a brick?
The brick looks more aesthetic and much more lighter
And depending on the brick and depending on the penn reel..it's smoother and manages line better :)
If you take your time with the brick, you can get perfect line lay. Not so with the Penn.
unionse7en lolol
honestly i thought the looks were Penn's only strenght
Gunnar Reeves i will never choose penn over Shimano . I use daiwa over anything but sometimes Shimano
so you think my daiwa bg would be fine after a week of washing around in the surf? lol a fish broke the rod holder that it was sitting in.
oooof........if left untreated for a bit...it'll likely get crunchy...if not seizy..but wait..you caught the rod you lost!!!!!!! EPIC
@@TackleAdvisors sadly i did not catch it.. i watched it slowly float off towards the sea... and by now i think its been like 2 weeks.. u think it is a rust ball now?
@@jakelencher817 Ahhh....gotcha....well...i'd say it's on it's way :(
@@TackleAdvisors hah even if i did get it the bail might be destroyed, as it fell down the jetty it did a couple bounces and scrapes, and for a second i considered jumping in but i wasnt gonna get killed against those rocks just to get an expensive rod. i also took a cheap shakespear reel that i started off with and i put a drill on the handle and made it go speedy.
I clicked cos I thought it said " 1 hour DRUNK test"
🤣🤣🤣
So would you say the spinfisher vi is sealed as well as the saragosa?
no. Gosa does it better at the ar clutch....
Well, Penn made a good reel :D
What's the weight of that 4500?
350 grams
Also noticed you haven’t even mentioned Lews Reels are you just not a fan or have not used one ?
Just haven't gotten around to them in all honesty. Haven't used many of their reels other than one recently and not for much time.. Definitely not enough to form an opinion other than it's just a reel lol
Tackle Advisors if it wasn’t for all this and that social media we’d still just be looking at the top 3 brands shimano penn diawa
What is the main gear made from?
Good vid, I want to see salt water dunk tests next😁
Love my bg ...... gonna buy the PENN for surf fishing
Damn impressive and kudos
Liked as soon as i saw dishwashing action...
Where do you think they are cutting costs to make it the price it is?
China.
next reel on my list I believe it comes out in september
Have you fished the reel? How’s it feel.. cast? Line lay?
Yes. I like everything about it. Great line lay. Very smooth. Great drag. Only thing I don't like is the handle knob. But it's not the end of the world
i heard you were able to rub the finish off with some rubbing alcohol??? is that right?@@TackleAdvisors
@@NasalObstruction Yeah. Not the end of the world. But odd. The metanium dc's dc brake coating had the same effect. But it peeled back and hit the spool causing issues. Had to melt it until smooth again lol. Only other time alcohol damaged paint in my experience. (not saying there aren't any others that it would. Just none i came across.
also worth mentioning that it's line lay is more even in appearance than the saragossa's. Fished a friends 6k last night and we compared them. (for what that's worth
@@TackleAdvisors is saragosa shimano 5000 better than the spinfisher VI 4500 ??
I feel it isn’t much compare to the one . It seem like the only thing that different is the weight.
Hi were can I purchase that toy nemo fish? Thanks
Hello, I have a new never used 14 year old shimano spirex rd2000 would you like to do a review on it. I can ship it but would want it back? lol
so , how does the pinion come out ? thanks for the vid !
I was told it is the same as the slammer.....I even asked if there was an adhesive or something..they said nope....But it's important to mention they are pre production models.....the long cast version they sent is missing the hydrophobic coating entirely (and when i asked they said it will be there....)
I noticed on another teardown by a penn shill...he didn't take the pinion out on his either which i immediately called out but didn't get a reply ((he hates me because I call him on his shillyness))
thanks Nick ! I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about , lmao.
on the 4500 the main gear is aluminum , right ? what is the oscillation gear made from , cast aluminum or zinc ?
The 5500 on down is alu....the osc gear is in fact zinc....on the 4500 live liner it's brass which is weird.
I knew it , lol..I used to get on that forum a little bit. bridgetender is my username. he needs to change his name to "the self ordained minister" : p
Always good to see a fellow SOLer here. I think he needs to go fishing......for something other than a once a decade tuna charter. Ya know he said he caught a bunch of yellowfin on a torque one...even posted pics of the fish......well the captain of the boat posted them pics the day after the charter on his site (caught on stellas).....and the torque wasn't even on the market for 2 or 3 years. And he injured himself palming th espool boatside when it made a run..lol
Tackle advisors, I would like to see a review of the Piscifun Spartan. I'm interested in your opinion.
THANKYOU SIR!!!👍✌
Is this salt or freshwater it is being dunked in?
Fresh
Does this reel come in a 4000 or 3000?
they make inbetween sizes and capacities....down to a 2500 size
How much better is this reel to the battle 2
Every single thing is greatly improved....Better gear materials, line lay looks better...line management is much better. Seals seals and more seals backed by sealed ball bearings. better spool support ONly thing that could be a down grade is a ball bearing line roller....sometimes a bushing is better....as it won't corrode.....but that's it.
better finish.....I have it sitting next to a battle 2 4500 gonna do a side by side tear down
It's a slammer 3 with a graphite rotor alu main gear and zinc oscillation gear and top only drag stack with a stainless steel main shaft. IN larger sizes it's even closer to the slamer
I’m definitely gonna get the 2500 or 3000 for sure
I’d like to see some favorite baitcasting reels review
their bad i’ve had them
? i've pulled cheap walmart reels out of the lake that work just fine. Most open face reels aren't waterproof because it's not really necessary
Big difference between saltwater and freshwater intrusion.
So at the price point, spimfisher 6, or slammer 3?
Do you need a metal rotor and an obscene amount of drag? Aside from that...in smaller sizes you only lose out on the brass gear (which is a helluva gear) But for the money....Spinfisher..... I go into the differences here www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/topic/735842-2019-penn-spinfisher-vi-1-hour-submersion-testbecausewhy-not/
james loerzel i have no idea about regular spinfisher aside from spinfisher 7500lc but slammer 3 is awsome by all means , stronger gears and better seals .
It also has the same drag system as the Torque!
Did you do this in salt water or fresh?!?
Fresh......Though correct me if i'm wrong. Salinity wouldn't effect it's ability to bypass the seals. Which was what I was trying to figure out. FW would just need to be blown out and air dried...Salt would need a complete tear down, strip and full lube job...Not worth the time and effort for a simple quasi silly room temp dunk test.
Love it!!
Just leave the anti reverse mechanism out. Really don't need it on spinning reel.
Acabei de adquirir um ,10500 e muito show.
what about line lay? =/
Line lay and line management when spooled tightly.. Is great as is the line management. Spooled loosely using the Berkley spooling station was awful
No brass main gear though. thanks
Would you take the spinfisher 6 over the slammer 3? Penn claims the slammer is still better but I’m not sure if that’s a marketing matter or not...
www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/topic/735842-2019-penn-spinfisher-vi-1-hour-submersion-test-resultsbecausewhy-not/
Penn outline the differences in the comments here
TLDR the seals are the same but the slammer 3 is made out of better quality pieces and has a different drag, aswell as some other benefits
Exactly!...As a matter of fact, it`s the same drag system as the Torque.
I’m sold!
Should I get a v or a vi
VI. It incorporates tech from higher end penn reels like the slammer III
Rob Lucas alright thanks I was just wondering cause the v has the slammer drag
Zarek Cruz yeah the spinfisher series all together is real nice, even the older ones. V and VI are both really sweet. My friend has the V 6500 and I have the VI 6500 bailess. Both are great under harsh conditions.
This or the Daiwa backbay?
Use and conditions while using?
Tackle Advisors kayak fishing in saltwater. Used for catching bait on sabiki rigs and throwing lures for striped bass..