Building a Japanese Planing Board || W/Sliding Dovetails
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2018
- I needed a planing board, so I made one. It's heavy.
There is some footage of this project missing for when I installed the second sliding dovetail foot. Just me being a doof.
Here's to Adventure!
Here here!
You're the first carpenter in youtube that I've come across who uses only simple tools "for real". And the mistakes you make , the results you're getting, etc are much more valuable lessons I've ever learned.. I mean I can get started with woodworking finally (after having many disheartening moments in the past). Thank you.
I love how you film mistakes also. Not just some photo shop channel. it's nice to show your mistakes so maybe someone else can learn a lesson from you.
I like that you are clearly pushing against your boundaries.
Talking of which. If you had cut the dovetails before gluing the two main boards together you could have made them stopped dovetails.
That would give a cleaner look and also make it less likely that you'll blow out the end like that.
Nice Post.
Thanks for showing it to us.
I think the most important lesson I've learnt from you is perseverance, I've always got really downhearted when things don't turn out perfect, but you've made it look successful and beautiful, and you've learnt.
Thanks sir. Just look at each mistake as a chance to learn and make some new accidental beauty
I love the fact your not a perfectionist and show how to work with mistakes instead of scrapping the project. Thanx for the vids.
Yeah sometimes projects don't go exactly as you hoped and you just have to chalk them up to an experiment and learn from them. I really enjoyed watching you problem solve and work around your "mistakes" and in the end you wound up with a great piece. Thanks for sharing an "imperfect" project.
It's always nice to se a family friendly, wood carcass abuser Ave video on my feed!
AvE is the man. I'm not on his level, just a lowly woodworker.
This is pretty much me as a woodworker... "Whelp, guess that just happened.... Eh, I don't feel like doing it again, I'll make it work!" Hahaha
I gotta say ... I wasn't sure it was going to come together for you, but it sure did! Love that you dove in and gave some new things a try. And even shared your mistakes with us. Good job, 5-years-ago @lemongrasspicker! I bet you're a seasoned pro by now!
I was scared each time you were chiseling towards a narrow end of a dove tail. And then I could breathe relaxed to see a relief cut down the middle. A rewarding project in more ways than one.
Awesome...said the "Wiseman". He who knows that he knows...he is wise!
This is awesome man!
I feel like im watching a real person woodworking. Not a tv personality
Sliding dovetail w/ hand tools, ambitious accomplishment. Thanks
Thanks sir
I like the honesty of your videos, it shows integrity. Something that you can see, if you play it back, is that you are chiselling waste into a tightening space. When you clear your dovetails and when you're chopping out for your splines. That's one reason that you're not getting the finish that you hoped for. Chop into a widening space. :)
Great video and project! I really like that you try things out - and it turned out great! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks sir
You make me feel like things not coming it just right is ok. And I like what you said "if you don't make mistakes, your not working"
Thanks for watching, truth is, anything that's really made by hand will have mistakes. Those mistakes are what creates the warmth of a hand made piece of furniture or anything really. Never worry about the minutia, life is meant to be lived out not stressed out.
This video is triggering my anxiety, curiosity, creativity, and perfectionism. I'm seriously considering trying my hand at woodworking, and I prefer to do hand tools only. I've done a few things but nothing major. All the "defects" in this project would probably make me want to quit, yet, how you handled the "defects" was creative enough. Not sure how I feel after watching this video. I'm still going to try my hand at woodworking, it's very soothing to me.
Im all for learning and like your style of channel. But for Pete's sake a paper towel 🤣🤣
Paper towel?
Oh, that's just lovely. Great patient work, my friend.
Thanks sir
it's more than extraordinary. to make, and I feel the hands that are so sore. it will certainly drain time. I congratulate Lemongrasspicker ...
Gotta love your positivity and enthusiasm...kudos!!!
Thanks sir!
Very nice bro. You teach real ideas. And the best thing is that you are happy with everything.
Excellent project! I agree with the comments, that persisting when things don’t go perfectly is a key to good woodworking. I just finished a project with the sliding dovetail but I chose to slightly taper it which made the fitting much easier
Yeah I should've tapered these a slight bit. Stay persistent!
These are so damn informative!!! You’ve done such a beautiful job with this project!!
Just found your channel but I'm thoroughly enjoying your videos. Thanks for putting them out there!
Thanks for watching!
Biting snakewinds and an unfazed woodworker!
Great job! The osage orange is cool looking. Next time I remake my planing board, I'm going to try the sliding dovetail. I look forward to your next video :)
Thanks Sir, and thanks for watching. One can never have too many planing boards.
Great ! I like it because you show the problems ans how you find a solution. Very informative.
Thanks sir, and thanks for watching
Thank you. I always learn something from you 🙂🙂
Great video, I like the real world challenges (mistakes :-) ) you encounter and deal with
Great job and good sound effects during the glue up
Nature provides the best sound effects
Easily my new favourite channel.
Easily my new favourite comment. Thanks for watching
Great work :) I like the way you gave it a unique design and it looks to be a solid job :) Well done ॐ
Thanks sir
I like your channel already and I have only watched 3 videos. Real stuff, you are not trying to be perfect but what you do is believable and it gives me hope😊 thanks a bunch! I CAN DO IT TOO!
Great planing board and also the work needed to make due with either defects in the original wood or due to issues experienced during builds.
Something I noticed, that I think is great and maybe could have merited being said: When you chopped out your first sliding dovetail you were splitting the surface of the board as you pushed the waste out; when you chopped out the sliding dovetail for the stop I noticed you had made a third cross cut so as you pushed out the waste it was smaller pieces that didn't put stress on the surface of the board. Great learning moment that I didn't think about until I saw your technique change.
Great video, thank you for being real.
Thanks for watching sir, glad to be of service
Agreed! I really liked so see the growth and learning contained in one video. When I see problem solving in action it trains my brain to look at things a different way.
Nice job. The fix for the dovetail is out of the box thinking.
Thanks sir, fixing a dovetail with another dovetail, irony.
Nice job man!
Thanks sir
A wise man once told me, “Don’t listen to me. I’m not that wise.” 😁 But seriously, sweet planing board! Loved those shavings!
Here's to japan! Lovely board brother!
Thanks sir
Your "Can-do" attitude and optimism is really catching. Good on you! Oh, and keep up the chill videos and nice projects!
Thanks sir, and thanks for watching
I admire your determination because I to have a lot of these days where nothing seems to go as well as you like . A friendly tip use a knife wall to help stop chip out. and build yourself a hand router plane for the depth and easier clean out of the tail section on the sliding dovetails. My first attempt at a sliding dovetail will be this spring when I build my tresses table!
Thanks, I actually had a router plane in the tool box the entire time I was building this.
My head exploded when I realized it because I had already finished the board.
I haven’t even started my Japanese woodworking yet but I borrowed a few good deals from a man I saw you use the scribe for a groove if you get your a forged marking know if you could put it deep enough impression for your soul to ride really easily and the wood would swell back out if you didn’t waited to go up for just a little while but that little bit of compression is not by any means a nonstarter if you wanted to go up right away
Hey man, love your videos.
I just wanted to say, if you cut slots in the dovetails before taking a chisel to them you'll be much less prone to splitting.
Crude, but done! Not sure how a woodworker in Japan would feel about this...
It's a copy from the design in Toshio Odate's book.
@@Lemongrasspicker I'm definitely going to use this design when I get the time to make one!
What were the starting dimensions of the red oak boards? Don't remember it being started in the video. Also, great looking work. I love watching the incorporation of mistakes and love the fact that your nor shy about admitting them either.
You're right I didn't give the spec. They're 8/4 thick and the total length came out to 24" . Width is just under 12". Thanks for watching sir.
Just got here. I love it.
Good job dude. Get yourself a routing plane and those sliding dovetails will be much easier. You should also check out tapered sliding dovetails, they are a lot of fun and impressive when you see them.
I actually have a router plane. My brain didn't turn on until after I'd finished all three dovetails to remind me that it was in the toolbox the whole time. And yes tapered sliding dovetails are awesome, might try them in the future.
Very hard work Sir. Do the Japanese use a hand router plane of sorts? Thanks
They do exist. I haven't seen a Japanese made one in person, just in pictures.
Great job Sir !! One thing I've been very curious about with japanese wood planes is what type of maintenance needs to be done with them ??? Do you need to flatten or replace the board over time ?? Thanks for sharing the knowledge ...
Thanks for watching. There's a good deal of maintenance that goes on with kanna. You flatten the bottom but you also cut some relief into it. They're designed to work better with this relief in the sole. For a single blade it can usually go through many dai (the wooden body) before it's used up.
I love your videos!! And I share your enthusiasm for Japanese tools. I find myself with a sudden need for a hand plane. What Japanese plane would you suggest as someone's first hand plane??
Look at dojo woodworking for discussion of japanese handplanes , hida . and japan woodworker, or woodcraft
Thanks for watching sir. For a first plane I don't recommend the ones on Amazon from makers like Senkichi. They require a HUGE amount of work to get good results out of. A good first plane should be slightly on the expensive side. Good kanna are far easier to tune and they don't require acts of god to get good results. Plus when it's a good plane you can grow into it. Check out suzuki tool for some good planes. They have some in the 150ish USD range that are great for beginners. Get a narrower one for your first, wider ones are tough to get used to especially if you've never done it before. One in the 45-58mm range should work well for you.
Thank you for your wisdom )
Very nice indeed Sir! I love your use of contrasting woods. I just recently tried my first sliding dovetail (a very small one) and it got me thinking, is there a plane which would make the tenon part of the joint? I can see it being a thing just haven't searched for it.
On a side note, all this wisdom...is it from one wise man or do you know a collection of wise men?
Thanks sir, there are wise men all around us. You just never know who might have a tidbit for you.
As far as a plane goes, there's a style of plane called a Wakitori kanna that is capable of cutting the mortise section of a sliding dovetail. For the tenon section it's really pretty easy to pare it down if you have a wide chisel. That would be a cool invention though, would save alot of time.
Hmmm....sounds like a possible video...I might look up some plane making things. Continue the good work sir!
Editing this comment to show you this video, dovetail planes for mortices and tenons the first 3 minutes of the video shows you the result, wonderful stuff: ua-cam.com/video/CguFhVj-OEY/v-deo.html
Huge thumbs up👍🏻🎩, ok so I've watched this almost half a dozen times..
Think on almost ready..
Ok, so I only have traditional hand planes..
Where would you suggest I get my 1st kanna?, I'm stateside..
Thanks in advance and looking forward to your next vids..
Check out Hida tool in California about a starter one. They know their stuff
@@Lemongrasspicker
Appreciate that, and the new shop looks awesome...
Looking foward to the guitar vids, my son's are into the guitars..👍🏻🎩🎩
You may want to build yourself a Japanese Router Plane. Your sliding dovetails may be slightly easier to clean up. Love Adventure. And I would really like to meet the Wise Men you speak of. They sound like they would be fun to go bowling with.
I actually have a router plane. My head exploded when I realized it had been in the toolbox the whole time, of course this was after I had completed the entire board.
Bowling with these gents would be fun, a bit challenging but fun.
almost forgot. Thanks for watching
You are very welcome. An interesting and informative UA-cam video has a lot of components. 1) the crafter must know their stuff. You do. 2) they must be engaging and infuse the video with a little humor. You do. 3) the camera and editing must be comfortable to watch. It is. I made a Japanese Cutting Gauge because of your video. It doesn't work really well, but I had a lot of fun building it. I plan to make your style of Japanese Saw Horses and a tool box. They will fit my cutting style and the box is a neat design. Hate the saw bench. One can never have enough boxes. I look forward to more of your videos.
On the sliding dovetail would it be easier to cut a straight side trough and then shave the angle in?
If you have a sliding dovetail plane then yes. I didnt when I made this though so I had to make do
enjoy your videos greatly. you've interested me in Japanese wood working and am interested in box making .. thanks
Do people ever put a rail on the right side to make it like a shooting board?
You could and it wouldn't hurt anything.
A wise man once told me that it was ok to make mistakes as long as you leant something from them
Thank idea
How do you shoot the ends of boards with a Japanese hand plane?
You line it up with your bench stop and make sure you hold your plane square. You can make a shooting board for it it just needs to function on the pull stroke instead of the push stroke like a western plane would.
拼板穿带燕尾槽应该一头宽一头窄，这样两块板会收得更紧
Wouldn't drilling some holes in the board make it easier to install the butterfly?
On some joinery absolutely. With a sliding dovetail though it makes the depth kind of screwy and it's very easy to cut it out of alignment.
Has anyone ever told you you sound like Bruce Campbell? Nice work too!
You're the first actually lol I think my voice is reminiscent of a frog honestly. Thanks for the compliment and for watching!
reminds me of Mustie1
I just looked him up and subbed to his channel. Thanks for the heads up on him
giggity!
Estupendo trabajo,me encanta los trabajos tuyos japoneses y las herramientas que empleas.
Buen trabajo.
Saludos
Gracias Enriquea
Very nice video Thank you
Thank YOU for watching
Do you live in Japan?
I do not. Stuck on a mainland sadly.
You mistake that cause the break out was use the chisel along the length of the dovetail. Instead what you should have done was go down vertically in to the channel especially and the ends where the wood as at its most delicate.
The end broke because I didn't fit the dovetail well enough. The trick is to make the most of mistakes when they happen, because they will always happen.
FWIW I made mine from 1 large chunk of cottonwood 2.4 in x 14 in by 36 I modeled mine using kiyoto tanaka /s youtube video tutorial. lots of videos on japanese hand tool woodworking
Each woodworker is different in their approach.
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You know how to make the best of the tools that you have without even a workbench. I'm going to give you only one constructive criticism about you chisels. I think they could be a bit sharper. I'm sure you know how to do that well. Maybe I'm ocd or you are lazy just like me. 😇🤣 nice work 👍🏼
it was painful watching dude use his hand tools. Dull as a butterknife chisels, sayi g he did t have a guide for his saw to saw teh groove for the sliding dovetail...? A piece of wood would have sufficed. Clamp it if need be.
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I aplaud your efforts but you are infact insulting the skilled japanese carpenter woodworkers.
Much of what you do in theory is right but your execution is horribly incorrect. What I don't understand since I have watched a few of your video's. What the hell are you doing and for whom
Awwww someone needs a hug.
Troll
Way to inaccurate.
Way too inenglish