VA Depression Criteria and How The VA Rates Depression (Tips For Getting Rated)
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Attorneys Ursula and Melanie talk about the way the VA Rates Depression when it comes to VA Disability Claims. They talk about the ways you can get a rating from 0% all the way up to 100% and the little stops along the way. This video can help you get the rating you deserve for the symptoms that you may have.
Dam, I didn’t know how bad I am until they starting giving examples. 😢
Because they don’t validate how we feel all they say is “your young you shouldn’t be feeling like this, I would talk to a psychologist and all she would say was that I was just stressed. That’s all it was. Like are you in my mind can you feel what I feel, I felt like grabbing her by the neck obviously I didn’t but that’s how it felt.
Haha I was thinking the same thing.
Same here 😢
Same 😂 it made me think back to my C&P exam when I told them death it’s not even a sweet release because we live in a forced reincarnation cycle …… they just nodded
SAME HERE !
I didn’t realize how depressed I was until I heard it explained by you.
It all depends on how much it effects your daily life. I was diagnosed with adjustment disorder early in my enlistment. My c&p diagnosed bipolar 1, anxiety with panic attacks, that set me at 70% for mental health. I also went to rehab while on active duty, and after discharge, and psych with SI. I wish i just had good mental health and give back the rating. Mental health sucks.
After talking with my VSO I'm now watching a few videos including this one... I had no idea if I was as depressed as I am. I've been suffering and I keep pretending Everything's okay.
I've been struggling with simple tasks. Even having trouble speaking. Remember bring me to the people I talk to everyday. Stumbling in the middle of the sentence not being able to finish it. Sadly I cry watching this video cuz it gets me release that I might find out what's wrong with me but then also making me sad because I'm realizing how weak I've become.
Greetings ma'am, I checked all the boxes. Guess I am in worse shape than I imagined. Was in the Army in 72-73 and was 16yrs old. Yes I can prove it on my DD214. Did not go good for me. I fell apart at 60 when I could not lift weights to burn stress. Retired early. I am just so grateful for my country. I would lay my life down for the US of A but am determined to be a blessing to my family and the Legion. Unfortunately I am locked in my home and never attended a meeting or church either, Funny how things work out. Thank you for all that you do for Vets cause it was not a nice time when we came back. There is a reason some lived under bridges or became loaners. Many blessings.
Great example of the breakdown for criteria. Thanks for posting.
I think of suicide very often. My sleep is terrible I constantly hear a loud ringing in my ears from my tinnitus. I haven’t dated in several years and I have very bad social anxiety I never hangout with friends when they invite me out. I dont hangout anymore at all. It feels like the walls are closing in on me some days.
Thank you great info I real my y need this.
Thank you for explaining. I am worse than I ever thought. I've known that I suffer from depression just never had it explained. I Hope You Have a Better Day, Boscawen,NH
Good information
Hill and Ponton was my representation with my VA appeal and claims sense 2017.
Lack of communication
Constant lawyer changes
Illegal fees charged to veterens
I recommend trying other resources . She comes off as nice but her office is incompetent.
Lot of good information. I realize that this describes a lot of actions dealing with my environment.
With what you state, I should be rated 70%. I have SI, cant concentrate, bad relationship with relationship, work issues, and hygiene issues, etc
If so, file for an increase if not already on appeal.
All well and good, IF you can get a "nexus letter": Diagnosed with PTSD in 2019, but not militarily connected, after patrolling both the Czech and former East German Borders for five years. Believe me, I'm not alone in that category.
Pay for a nexus letter from a private PhD and have them do the same exam for the C&P exam. A private doctor is much more likely to connect military duty to a mental health diagnosis. That’s the route that I went and I won my claim because it’s a licensed PhD vs. their licensed PhD so they have to take it into account. Also the buddy statements help a lot to establish the case. People who knew you before and after service help establish the difference. Make sure all of your symptoms are listed in your buddy statements. Get the list for your diagnosis to make sure you don’t forget about any. The key is to overwhelm them with evidence that supports your claim. Go see several different doctors if you can. Get different types of treatments from different places.
Lastly, don’t give up. If you know you have a legitimate claim then make sure you are compensated. They make it difficult and I think it’s because they know that a lot of people are just going to give up. Every time you go to an appointment or collect another piece of evidence you get to relive it over and over again. My wife was begging me to stop working on my claim because it was bringing up all of the worst symptoms but I kept going and after a couple years I finally had my claim accepted. Let me tell you that the relief I felt when it was finally done was worth the hell I had to go through. Prior to that I felt defeated by the process and betrayed by the system. I wrote the government a blank check for my own life and they wiped their behind with it. I owe it to the 22 veterans a day who were taking their own lives to go back and get them to make it right. I was one of those who was right there in line to be another statistic. I decided that I wasn’t going to let the story end like that.
Figure out the game the way they play it, get your evidence together and go get what they owe you. Keep it up until they know you by name when you walk in the door. If you’re just a number then they will treat you like a number.
Allons!
@@aceclarksatx Coldsteel 83-86!
@@schlirf Coldsteel 92-93 when 11th ACR was deactivated.
I mean, not a WW2 vet right?
Do you even get a Combat patch for those rotations?
It’s so upsetting that they lump all mental health conditions as one umbrella rating…when there are several conditions they consider as this one category. It’s hard to understand (and very unclear even in the regulations) how they come to the combined percentage they determine for the rating, based on numerous conditions (PTSD, Depression, Chronic Pain, Lifestyle Impact etc)
What is a procedural or regulatory review of a VA claim?
Who gonna right the right things that can turn your case? Psychologist or PA?
Can a lic professional counselor that does a psychological assessment with true psychological tests with validity scales assess for depression and or pstd but use that assessment to write a nexus letter
Question can you use write ups from your place of employment as evidence
The differences between 70-100% are extremely minimal in reality. My evidence and C&P exam from 13 years ago justifies 100% rating and I was still rated 70%.
I was just recently denied for PTSD but during my C&P exam I was diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder and anxiety. Do I appeal or should I re file for Major Depressive Disorder and anxiety now that I have this established Nexus? I meet with my VSO this week and she has a copy of my C&P exam from the doctor. Any thoughts?
If the C&P gave a nexus it should have been service connected. File an appeal for "service connection for and acquired psychiatric condition to include depression, anxiety, and PTSD" this will preserve your effective date.
Do not appeal, if you have spoken to your private physician about your PTSD have them to complete a DBQ, also have your wife/husband, Pastor etc do a Buddy letter explaining the behavior they see and how you cope with the PTSD, request a new review based on new evidence, if you appeal it can take up to 5 years before a decision is made once you submit an appeal you cannot reverse it.
I had my wife complete a buddy letter, my Physician completed a DBQ and I wrote a statement and was service connected at 70%. I also had other claims that were submitted at the same time that were denied like migraines but the representative that I had didn’t submit it as a secondary condition to PTSD so it was denied, they also submitted sleep apnea as a direct claim it was denied so I got a VA Attorney we didn’t appeal but we submitted a request for a new review based on new evidence, sleep apnea was awarded at 70% and I’m currently waiting on a new decision for the migraines secondary to the PTSD. The representative I NO LONGER HAVE filed an appeal for 4 claims that I have and I have supporting evidence that I can’t submit because they filed an appeal I just have to wait for years before I can move forward with it.
I just took a Depression C&P for TDIU I was at 70% depression and 90% overall at the time of the appointment
Update I was denied TDIU even though I was told because of my back, I can’t work any manual labor job and because of my depression disorder would cause a ton of issues also 😂 and after that I was told I met the criteria for unemployability. I got to 90% on my own but I’m going to have to share the last 10% upgrade victory with a law firm.
@@gokubrown7395I’m sorry to hear you were denied, its aggravating to say the least! What was their reason for denial? I’m currently deciding whether to go for an increase or file the TDIU route (both are justified & warranted in my case ) not sure which is the better route to pursue is why I ask.
Do these symptoms have to be currently happening, or can it just be logged into your file. Cause medication has been working for me and I am not where I began at all.
0%
don’t tell the medicine is working bro you want to keep getting paid
I’m battling severe insomnia due to a service connection cervical spine condition and chronic pain. So the same ratings apply?
Yes.
@@ursula079so had my C&P exam two weeks after I submitted my claim via telehealth. I guess it was a basic MH exam. The psychologist seemed very friendly, and professional, had no problems with her at all. I told her from the start that the chronic pain and insomnia were one in the same to me. The more pain I’m in the less I sleep and there for I have no social interaction and very fatigued at work which causes problems and mistakes. But several times she had to tell me to differentiate between the two. I submitted seven separate doctors visits in the last sixteen months diagnosing insomnia because of neck pain from private and VA doctors. Trips to and up coming appointments with pain management. Prescription for Cymbalta for chronic pain after the gabapentin did not work. Prescriptions for opioids and Ambien also. And summarys from a VA psychologist helping me with CBT which I was diagnosed with severe insomnia.
My VSO could not give me details but said the exam looked very positive. ??? Not really sure what to make of that as far as my MH which I think is fine by the way. At least for an old Marine. 😁
I guess my point is that the whole claim feels like I have to cater to MH and not what the reality really is. I’m in constant pain and I can’t sleep.
Thank you for what you do. Semper Fi.
I’m very encouraged with the new criteria for mental health ratings, just hope they will hurry up to be implemented. Out of all the changes they’ve made to everything else, mental health is the only thing that seems to be beneficial to the Veteran (changes to GERD/IBS, Sleep Apnea, & Tinnitus definitely aren’t for example).
Ibs is included?
@@titanpolus5088 no, just mental health. IBS/GERD changes along with all the other changes are detrimental to VA Disability Compensation ratings. But mental health is getting a beneficial overhaul. Conveniently the new regs haven’t gone into effect yet, while the bad ones have! It won’t happen at the very least until everyone’s intent to files expire after August, mark my words.
@@casuallevelexpert3112where can I find information about the mental health overhaul?
@@MrC8HTTPcode402 Clay has a few excellent videos on his CivDiv channel. Key word search Criteria Mental Health
Can I submit additional information after my C&P exam? There are a few things that I can document from work…
Yes you can. You may want to hold the evidence and if denied you could use it for a supplemental appeal.
If you do send it after the C&P make sure the evidence is listed on your rating decision as evidence considered. Sometimes VA misses it.
I agree with holding it for an appeal. Former raters have commonly said don't add things later if you can avoid it as it slows down the process and may not be given the proper weight.
Thanks! FTR, I got a total of 70% for my primary and secondary claims. One of these looks like a deteriorating condition. I think I can reach 90-100% in the next two years…
Glad it worked out for you!
I’m getting chaptered out of the army for depression PTSD and anxiety wonder what they gonna give me …
go to sick call every single day for anything and everything, trust me just going there and getting them to write down everything you tell them will help you so much in the long run
From other advisors, they stress the importance of the lay letter. It's not minor.............. do a good job filling it out.
Where does insomnia fit into this?
I HAVE MOST OF THE CRITERIA IN SERVICE AND THEY ARE SAYING IT HAPPEND BEFORE SERVICE I WAS TREATED FOR ANXIETY DEPRESSION AND SLEEP WHILE IN SERVICE .HOW CAN VA STILL SAY THAT ?
Because their evil bastards.!!
File as secondary to something like tinnitus. This way you automatically have a service connection
What if your depression is better with medication?
After I walked out of C&P I remembered I had suicide idealization momentary where I wondered what would happen if I weren’t here tomorrow. I pulled examiner out of
Office and told her. Glad I did. I got
70%. A BG put a “code red” on my career after I suspended his CSM’s security clearance
For Walking out of a urinalysis. I thought what they were doing a joke. After getting looks and funny cooperation from Co-workers, it started to affect me.
How about 70% for PTSD, but going for depression secondary to a pain already assigned?
If you have 70% for PTSD then you won't get anything for depression. Only one mental health can be paid for
@@sweetchinmusiq1623anxiety and depression can be secondary conditions. So the rating may increase
@@tedsharpe3010 How positive are you? Anxiety and depression fall under the umbrella of PTSD. All mental health issues are included in a general diagnosis whether it's PTSD or Depression from my understanding
@@concernedcitizen05 they're secondary conditions stemming from primary. That's what I thought.
Interesting.
The psychologist gave me persistent depressive disorder vs depression... Don't know if it's different or not.
It’s still depression, it just presents itself in different ways. The VA gives you a rating for it just like major depressive disorder
Go to 38CFR that’s where you’ll see what category you fall in. They don’t know your symptoms. So you can’t hold back and say “I’ve been in gun battles” they have no idea how it feels they gonna hear it and say ok how does this affect you, if you soldier through and say “I’m ok thou” you lookin at a 20% or less budd. Even if you saw some heads get blown off. Versus a guy who was a cook and say “I got burned by grease, now I’m subconscious and afraid to go out in public because I’ll be judge by my scars, it’s effecting my ability to concentrate and function, it makes me irritable and affects my relationships at home, it makes me be in my head a lot and sometimes I think about suicide here and there….” He’s gonna be rated higher than you
Not gonna lie, the thumbnail on a quick scroll looked like Mel Gibson lol.
If there is already an intent to file for anything on the books do we need to add another intent to file and/or specifically file for the Pact Act claims now.
Its been a year and it's still as clear as mud
This lady with glasses is on target
and cute
I work with a couple people that are 100%. After watching this video, I’m convinced they are scamming the system.
I was finance in the air force for 3 years. Got kicked out for drugs. Applied for VA and claimed PTSD because my supervisor was mean to me. Got 100% P/T the first time. Retirement for life at 22 y/o. Insane. Bought a new C7 Corvette and smoke all the weed I want now.
Troll. This is a serious topic so maybe leave the comments to the adults.
@@rogersmith7808 lol. uhmm...ok. Thank you for the compliment.
What does P/T stand for?
@@nathanhale6368 Permanent and Total
Id have just not said a damn thing if I were you.