VA Depression Criteria and How The VA Rates Depression (Tips For Getting Rated)

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  • @Fenril76
    @Fenril76 Рік тому +96

    Dam, I didn’t know how bad I am until they starting giving examples. 😢

    • @josevilla7829
      @josevilla7829 Рік тому +10

      Because they don’t validate how we feel all they say is “your young you shouldn’t be feeling like this, I would talk to a psychologist and all she would say was that I was just stressed. That’s all it was. Like are you in my mind can you feel what I feel, I felt like grabbing her by the neck obviously I didn’t but that’s how it felt.

    • @BMTornadoes
      @BMTornadoes 11 місяців тому +3

      Haha I was thinking the same thing.

    • @Quintanaroo2117
      @Quintanaroo2117 10 місяців тому +2

      Same here 😢

    • @gokubrown7395
      @gokubrown7395 9 місяців тому +5

      Same 😂 it made me think back to my C&P exam when I told them death it’s not even a sweet release because we live in a forced reincarnation cycle …… they just nodded

    • @davep1103
      @davep1103 6 місяців тому

      SAME HERE !

  • @Floppy-1235
    @Floppy-1235 6 місяців тому +27

    I didn’t realize how depressed I was until I heard it explained by you.

  • @MrDuran9000
    @MrDuran9000 7 місяців тому +8

    Greetings ma'am, I checked all the boxes. Guess I am in worse shape than I imagined. Was in the Army in 72-73 and was 16yrs old. Yes I can prove it on my DD214. Did not go good for me. I fell apart at 60 when I could not lift weights to burn stress. Retired early. I am just so grateful for my country. I would lay my life down for the US of A but am determined to be a blessing to my family and the Legion. Unfortunately I am locked in my home and never attended a meeting or church either, Funny how things work out. Thank you for all that you do for Vets cause it was not a nice time when we came back. There is a reason some lived under bridges or became loaners. Many blessings.

  • @theaboveaveragejoeshow8425
    @theaboveaveragejoeshow8425 4 місяці тому +16

    I think of suicide very often. My sleep is terrible I constantly hear a loud ringing in my ears from my tinnitus. I haven’t dated in several years and I have very bad social anxiety I never hangout with friends when they invite me out. I dont hangout anymore at all. It feels like the walls are closing in on me some days.

    • @koblerville923
      @koblerville923 13 днів тому

      You are not alone friend. I have to pull through myself. I offer you this: If it got unbearable I would rather be homeless, have some hope, and sleep under the stars at night than commit suicide.

  • @lordkreigs1978
    @lordkreigs1978 Місяць тому +3

    I was diagnosed with PTSD so long ago that when the psychiatrist doctor told me I had PTSD, I told her I don’t even know WTF that means.
    At that point it was becoming the new terminology and I had never even heard it called that until she told me I had it and explained what it meant.
    I’ve been on probably 15 different medication’s over the last 30 or more years and have had hundreds upon hundreds of hours of counseling and I think at best it has prevented me from doing the nasty S word.
    I don’t even go to counseling anymore, because I only had one who I felt actually gave a flying fuck about me and she is 1,100 miles away in my old city and state. All the other ones were simply “phoning it in” in order to get their payment from my insurance provider.
    I don’t think they gave two shits about me.
    I went into one appointment and came in and sat down and said absolutely nothing for five or six minutes while the psych doctor was busy clickety clacking on his computer keyboard, and he paused and looked up at me and said “aren’t you going to say anything?“
    I told him “as soon as you get off that fucking computer and recognize that I’m here in the office, then I guess we can start!“
    He said something to the effect of “well I was just trying to finish up notes from my previous patient and I will get to you in a minute.”
    I told him as I stood up “well I’m here right now and this is my time, so go fuck yourself!”
    I got up and walked out and never went back again.
    I had another one some years later where I came in at 12 45 for my 1 o’clock appointment and I checked in at the desk and they called the doctor and told her I was here and waiting.
    At 10 minutes till two meaning there was only 10 minutes left for this hour appointment, she came out and said something like “sorry I lost track of time. I guess we will have to reschedule.”
    And I told her that won’t be necessary, I won’t be coming back to someone who is negligent of their duties, inconsiderate, inept, and indifferent to my needs.

  • @z06life51
    @z06life51 Рік тому +30

    It all depends on how much it effects your daily life. I was diagnosed with adjustment disorder early in my enlistment. My c&p diagnosed bipolar 1, anxiety with panic attacks, that set me at 70% for mental health. I also went to rehab while on active duty, and after discharge, and psych with SI. I wish i just had good mental health and give back the rating. Mental health sucks.

  • @logan1nwo
    @logan1nwo 5 місяців тому +8

    After talking with my VSO I'm now watching a few videos including this one... I had no idea if I was as depressed as I am. I've been suffering and I keep pretending Everything's okay.
    I've been struggling with simple tasks. Even having trouble speaking. Remember bring me to the people I talk to everyday. Stumbling in the middle of the sentence not being able to finish it. Sadly I cry watching this video cuz it gets me release that I might find out what's wrong with me but then also making me sad because I'm realizing how weak I've become.

    • @Cali_3521
      @Cali_3521 4 місяці тому +1

      Your last sentence got me, man. I've been feeling the same for yrs now.

    • @logan1nwo
      @logan1nwo 3 місяці тому

      I hope you keep fighting the good fight and find light at the end of the tunnel. I'm still struggling but I'm still here. Daniel

    • @CrazyPalidin57
      @CrazyPalidin57 3 місяці тому

      I don't know why, but I do the same thing as what I think you're trying to say. Start crying out of nowhere, sometimes by watching things that should make me feel happy.

  • @TheSushiandme
    @TheSushiandme Рік тому +8

    With what you state, I should be rated 70%. I have SI, cant concentrate, bad relationship with relationship, work issues, and hygiene issues, etc

    • @ursula079
      @ursula079 Рік тому +4

      If so, file for an increase if not already on appeal.

  • @looneylenny87
    @looneylenny87 6 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for explaining. I am worse than I ever thought. I've known that I suffer from depression just never had it explained. I Hope You Have a Better Day, Boscawen,NH

  • @ronaldhaugen5967
    @ronaldhaugen5967 11 місяців тому +5

    I HAVE MOST OF THE CRITERIA IN SERVICE AND THEY ARE SAYING IT HAPPEND BEFORE SERVICE I WAS TREATED FOR ANXIETY DEPRESSION AND SLEEP WHILE IN SERVICE .HOW CAN VA STILL SAY THAT ?

  • @schlirf
    @schlirf Рік тому +12

    All well and good, IF you can get a "nexus letter": Diagnosed with PTSD in 2019, but not militarily connected, after patrolling both the Czech and former East German Borders for five years. Believe me, I'm not alone in that category.

    • @boxelder9167
      @boxelder9167 Рік тому

      Pay for a nexus letter from a private PhD and have them do the same exam for the C&P exam. A private doctor is much more likely to connect military duty to a mental health diagnosis. That’s the route that I went and I won my claim because it’s a licensed PhD vs. their licensed PhD so they have to take it into account. Also the buddy statements help a lot to establish the case. People who knew you before and after service help establish the difference. Make sure all of your symptoms are listed in your buddy statements. Get the list for your diagnosis to make sure you don’t forget about any. The key is to overwhelm them with evidence that supports your claim. Go see several different doctors if you can. Get different types of treatments from different places.
      Lastly, don’t give up. If you know you have a legitimate claim then make sure you are compensated. They make it difficult and I think it’s because they know that a lot of people are just going to give up. Every time you go to an appointment or collect another piece of evidence you get to relive it over and over again. My wife was begging me to stop working on my claim because it was bringing up all of the worst symptoms but I kept going and after a couple years I finally had my claim accepted. Let me tell you that the relief I felt when it was finally done was worth the hell I had to go through. Prior to that I felt defeated by the process and betrayed by the system. I wrote the government a blank check for my own life and they wiped their behind with it. I owe it to the 22 veterans a day who were taking their own lives to go back and get them to make it right. I was one of those who was right there in line to be another statistic. I decided that I wasn’t going to let the story end like that.
      Figure out the game the way they play it, get your evidence together and go get what they owe you. Keep it up until they know you by name when you walk in the door. If you’re just a number then they will treat you like a number.

    • @aceclarksatx
      @aceclarksatx Рік тому +1

      Allons!

    • @schlirf
      @schlirf Рік тому +1

      @@aceclarksatx Coldsteel 83-86!

    • @aceclarksatx
      @aceclarksatx Рік тому +1

      @@schlirf Coldsteel 92-93 when 11th ACR was deactivated.

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure 6 місяців тому +1

      I mean, not a WW2 vet right?
      Do you even get a Combat patch for those rotations?

  • @gokubrown7395
    @gokubrown7395 9 місяців тому +6

    I just took a Depression C&P for TDIU I was at 70% depression and 90% overall at the time of the appointment

    • @gokubrown7395
      @gokubrown7395 8 місяців тому +2

      Update I was denied TDIU even though I was told because of my back, I can’t work any manual labor job and because of my depression disorder would cause a ton of issues also 😂 and after that I was told I met the criteria for unemployability. I got to 90% on my own but I’m going to have to share the last 10% upgrade victory with a law firm.

    • @casuallevelexpert3112
      @casuallevelexpert3112 5 місяців тому

      @@gokubrown7395I’m sorry to hear you were denied, its aggravating to say the least! What was their reason for denial? I’m currently deciding whether to go for an increase or file the TDIU route (both are justified & warranted in my case ) not sure which is the better route to pursue is why I ask.

  • @natashascott8489
    @natashascott8489 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow this the best examples I’ve ever heard and I have most of these symptoms.

  • @casuallevelexpert3112
    @casuallevelexpert3112 5 місяців тому +3

    The differences between 70-100% are extremely minimal in reality. My evidence and C&P exam from 13 years ago justifies 100% rating and I was still rated 70%.

  • @romulodejesus6401
    @romulodejesus6401 Рік тому +2

    Who gonna right the right things that can turn your case? Psychologist or PA?

  • @trevorbrown2806
    @trevorbrown2806 Рік тому +7

    I was just recently denied for PTSD but during my C&P exam I was diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder and anxiety. Do I appeal or should I re file for Major Depressive Disorder and anxiety now that I have this established Nexus? I meet with my VSO this week and she has a copy of my C&P exam from the doctor. Any thoughts?

    • @ursula079
      @ursula079 Рік тому +7

      If the C&P gave a nexus it should have been service connected. File an appeal for "service connection for and acquired psychiatric condition to include depression, anxiety, and PTSD" this will preserve your effective date.

    • @michaeljackson2530
      @michaeljackson2530 Рік тому +9

      Do not appeal, if you have spoken to your private physician about your PTSD have them to complete a DBQ, also have your wife/husband, Pastor etc do a Buddy letter explaining the behavior they see and how you cope with the PTSD, request a new review based on new evidence, if you appeal it can take up to 5 years before a decision is made once you submit an appeal you cannot reverse it.
      I had my wife complete a buddy letter, my Physician completed a DBQ and I wrote a statement and was service connected at 70%. I also had other claims that were submitted at the same time that were denied like migraines but the representative that I had didn’t submit it as a secondary condition to PTSD so it was denied, they also submitted sleep apnea as a direct claim it was denied so I got a VA Attorney we didn’t appeal but we submitted a request for a new review based on new evidence, sleep apnea was awarded at 70% and I’m currently waiting on a new decision for the migraines secondary to the PTSD. The representative I NO LONGER HAVE filed an appeal for 4 claims that I have and I have supporting evidence that I can’t submit because they filed an appeal I just have to wait for years before I can move forward with it.

  • @haroldandrews5864
    @haroldandrews5864 7 місяців тому +2

    Great example of the breakdown for criteria. Thanks for posting.

  • @casuallevelexpert3112
    @casuallevelexpert3112 5 місяців тому +2

    I’m very encouraged with the new criteria for mental health ratings, just hope they will hurry up to be implemented. Out of all the changes they’ve made to everything else, mental health is the only thing that seems to be beneficial to the Veteran (changes to GERD/IBS, Sleep Apnea, & Tinnitus definitely aren’t for example).

    • @titanpolus5088
      @titanpolus5088 5 місяців тому

      Ibs is included?

    • @casuallevelexpert3112
      @casuallevelexpert3112 5 місяців тому

      @@titanpolus5088 no, just mental health. IBS/GERD changes along with all the other changes are detrimental to VA Disability Compensation ratings. But mental health is getting a beneficial overhaul. Conveniently the new regs haven’t gone into effect yet, while the bad ones have! It won’t happen at the very least until everyone’s intent to files expire after August, mark my words.

    • @MrC8HTTPcode402
      @MrC8HTTPcode402 4 місяці тому

      @@casuallevelexpert3112where can I find information about the mental health overhaul?

    • @casuallevelexpert3112
      @casuallevelexpert3112 4 місяці тому

      @@MrC8HTTPcode402 Clay has a few excellent videos on his CivDiv channel. Key word search Criteria Mental Health

  • @dloverland
    @dloverland Рік тому +5

    I’m battling severe insomnia due to a service connection cervical spine condition and chronic pain. So the same ratings apply?

    • @ursula079
      @ursula079 Рік тому

      Yes.

    • @dloverland
      @dloverland Рік тому

      @@ursula079so had my C&P exam two weeks after I submitted my claim via telehealth. I guess it was a basic MH exam. The psychologist seemed very friendly, and professional, had no problems with her at all. I told her from the start that the chronic pain and insomnia were one in the same to me. The more pain I’m in the less I sleep and there for I have no social interaction and very fatigued at work which causes problems and mistakes. But several times she had to tell me to differentiate between the two. I submitted seven separate doctors visits in the last sixteen months diagnosing insomnia because of neck pain from private and VA doctors. Trips to and up coming appointments with pain management. Prescription for Cymbalta for chronic pain after the gabapentin did not work. Prescriptions for opioids and Ambien also. And summarys from a VA psychologist helping me with CBT which I was diagnosed with severe insomnia.
      My VSO could not give me details but said the exam looked very positive. ??? Not really sure what to make of that as far as my MH which I think is fine by the way. At least for an old Marine. 😁
      I guess my point is that the whole claim feels like I have to cater to MH and not what the reality really is. I’m in constant pain and I can’t sleep.
      Thank you for what you do. Semper Fi.

  • @gregcooper437
    @gregcooper437 Рік тому +5

    How about 70% for PTSD, but going for depression secondary to a pain already assigned?

    • @sweetchinmusiq1623
      @sweetchinmusiq1623 Рік тому +6

      If you have 70% for PTSD then you won't get anything for depression. Only one mental health can be paid for

    • @tedsharpe3010
      @tedsharpe3010 Рік тому +6

      ​@@sweetchinmusiq1623anxiety and depression can be secondary conditions. So the rating may increase

    • @concernedcitizen05
      @concernedcitizen05 Рік тому +3

      @@tedsharpe3010 How positive are you? Anxiety and depression fall under the umbrella of PTSD. All mental health issues are included in a general diagnosis whether it's PTSD or Depression from my understanding

    • @tedsharpe3010
      @tedsharpe3010 Рік тому +1

      @@concernedcitizen05 they're secondary conditions stemming from primary. That's what I thought.

    • @concernedcitizen05
      @concernedcitizen05 Рік тому

      Interesting.

  • @keimonbest
    @keimonbest 27 днів тому

    My c&p exam lasted 20 minutes and he suggested with his hands up that I should start speaking to a therapist or seek help and openly said it sounds like I have depression. If anyone else had a similar experience what was your rating

  • @christopherivy6599
    @christopherivy6599 Рік тому +5

    Hill and Ponton was my representation with my VA appeal and claims sense 2017.
    Lack of communication
    Constant lawyer changes
    Illegal fees charged to veterens
    I recommend trying other resources . She comes off as nice but her office is incompetent.

  • @curryreeves1369
    @curryreeves1369 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m getting chaptered out of the army for depression PTSD and anxiety wonder what they gonna give me …

    • @andydieguez2451
      @andydieguez2451 9 місяців тому

      go to sick call every single day for anything and everything, trust me just going there and getting them to write down everything you tell them will help you so much in the long run

  • @tonyjones1560
    @tonyjones1560 Рік тому +2

    Can I submit additional information after my C&P exam? There are a few things that I can document from work…

    • @ursula079
      @ursula079 Рік тому +1

      Yes you can. You may want to hold the evidence and if denied you could use it for a supplemental appeal.
      If you do send it after the C&P make sure the evidence is listed on your rating decision as evidence considered. Sometimes VA misses it.

    • @concernedcitizen05
      @concernedcitizen05 Рік тому +1

      I agree with holding it for an appeal. Former raters have commonly said don't add things later if you can avoid it as it slows down the process and may not be given the proper weight.

    • @tonyjones1560
      @tonyjones1560 Рік тому +1

      Thanks! FTR, I got a total of 70% for my primary and secondary claims. One of these looks like a deteriorating condition. I think I can reach 90-100% in the next two years…

    • @concernedcitizen05
      @concernedcitizen05 Рік тому +1

      Glad it worked out for you!

  • @munkandbear2818
    @munkandbear2818 3 місяці тому +2

    To win your claim, you must be transparent about your "real" situation. A C and P exam is "not" the time to suck it up and be a man! Be truthful and honest about the crap you deal with on a regular basis. Don't be surprised if tears come with reliving your experiences it is part of being human. I am rated at 10% for tinnitus and 70 % for Major depressive disorder making a total rating of 73.5 that pays at 70%. I filed my claim on my own and did not use an outside service.

    • @davidfredrickson3057
      @davidfredrickson3057 2 місяці тому

      At my c&p exam right now going to try my best to get that 70% to go with my 10% tinnitus hopefully i get what I deserve had plenty meetings with my physc wish me luck 🍀

  • @dougtexas9075
    @dougtexas9075 9 місяців тому +1

    From other advisors, they stress the importance of the lay letter. It's not minor.............. do a good job filling it out.

  • @chino2037
    @chino2037 Рік тому

    What is a procedural or regulatory review of a VA claim?

  • @brandenhellman4381
    @brandenhellman4381 Місяць тому

    Sounds about normal to me. What’s the issue?

  • @jean_1893
    @jean_1893 Рік тому +4

    Do these symptoms have to be currently happening, or can it just be logged into your file. Cause medication has been working for me and I am not where I began at all.

    • @sweetchinmusiq1623
      @sweetchinmusiq1623 Рік тому +3

      0%

    • @bigea5377
      @bigea5377 10 місяців тому +2

      don’t tell the medicine is working bro you want to keep getting paid

    • @LostSoulsmusic22
      @LostSoulsmusic22 14 днів тому +1

      Now if it requires medication daily that doesn't drop your rating. At least it's not supposed to. Medicating a mental health problem and it working doesn't mean you are cured.

  • @Demetrius-e9t
    @Demetrius-e9t 6 місяців тому +1

    Question can you use write ups from your place of employment as evidence

    • @lydiafaith3382
      @lydiafaith3382 3 місяці тому

      Yes. Anything showing any sort of behavior or ability to function or do your job properly should be submitted for evidence. Even if you don't think it's evidence SUBMIT!

  • @marilules6495
    @marilules6495 Рік тому +1

    Thank you great info I real my y need this.

  • @wallys7016
    @wallys7016 11 місяців тому +2

    Where does insomnia fit into this?

  • @redohe9508
    @redohe9508 Рік тому +3

    Lot of good information. I realize that this describes a lot of actions dealing with my environment.

  • @TycoonTony-i2g
    @TycoonTony-i2g Рік тому +2

    Good information

  • @tonydatu
    @tonydatu 7 місяців тому

    What if your depression is better with medication?

  • @carlosmark9840
    @carlosmark9840 3 місяці тому

    Good information thank you

  • @TheSushiandme
    @TheSushiandme Рік тому +1

    The psychologist gave me persistent depressive disorder vs depression... Don't know if it's different or not.

    • @mitchellfranklin5364
      @mitchellfranklin5364 Рік тому +4

      It’s still depression, it just presents itself in different ways. The VA gives you a rating for it just like major depressive disorder

    • @markscriven1458
      @markscriven1458 Рік тому

      Go to 38CFR that’s where you’ll see what category you fall in. They don’t know your symptoms. So you can’t hold back and say “I’ve been in gun battles” they have no idea how it feels they gonna hear it and say ok how does this affect you, if you soldier through and say “I’m ok thou” you lookin at a 20% or less budd. Even if you saw some heads get blown off. Versus a guy who was a cook and say “I got burned by grease, now I’m subconscious and afraid to go out in public because I’ll be judge by my scars, it’s effecting my ability to concentrate and function, it makes me irritable and affects my relationships at home, it makes me be in my head a lot and sometimes I think about suicide here and there….” He’s gonna be rated higher than you

  • @RailroadMan91
    @RailroadMan91 Рік тому +4

    Not gonna lie, the thumbnail on a quick scroll looked like Mel Gibson lol.

  • @curtiscarver5104
    @curtiscarver5104 2 місяці тому

    This hit home hard. I need to brush my fucking teeth.

  • @mtm105
    @mtm105 Рік тому +2

    After I walked out of C&P I remembered I had suicide idealization momentary where I wondered what would happen if I weren’t here tomorrow. I pulled examiner out of
    Office and told her. Glad I did. I got
    70%. A BG put a “code red” on my career after I suspended his CSM’s security clearance
    For Walking out of a urinalysis. I thought what they were doing a joke. After getting looks and funny cooperation from Co-workers, it started to affect me.

  • @bigtime911
    @bigtime911 Рік тому +4

    This lady with glasses is on target

  • @myobmyob2215
    @myobmyob2215 Рік тому

    If there is already an intent to file for anything on the books do we need to add another intent to file and/or specifically file for the Pact Act claims now.
    Its been a year and it's still as clear as mud

  • @casuallevelexpert3112
    @casuallevelexpert3112 5 місяців тому +1

    It’s so upsetting that they lump all mental health conditions as one umbrella rating…when there are several conditions they consider as this one category. It’s hard to understand (and very unclear even in the regulations) how they come to the combined percentage they determine for the rating, based on numerous conditions (PTSD, Depression, Chronic Pain, Lifestyle Impact etc)

  • @deadlyoneable
    @deadlyoneable 10 місяців тому +5

    I work with a couple people that are 100%. After watching this video, I’m convinced they are scamming the system.

    • @PokeManiax
      @PokeManiax 2 місяці тому +3

      Sometimes you don't know what's going on with them behind closed doors, mental health is not usually displayed at the workplace. Don't just write off your coworkers because you don't understand what they go through.

    • @chokmah3926
      @chokmah3926 2 місяці тому +2

      Sometimes you can’t know what people are going through but a lot of people game the system

  • @marlenevanast9729
    @marlenevanast9729 9 днів тому

    They are saying I am bi polar

  • @MichaelGallegos-q2y
    @MichaelGallegos-q2y 3 місяці тому

    Who is going to hire someone unable to be 100% capable of working. As if the employer is going to say come here trigger, eat this sugar cube and do 10%. Is this theory or real world analysis.

  • @pizzaparty-r1c
    @pizzaparty-r1c 8 місяців тому +3

    I was finance in the air force for 3 years. Got kicked out for drugs. Applied for VA and claimed PTSD because my supervisor was mean to me. Got 100% P/T the first time. Retirement for life at 22 y/o. Insane. Bought a new C7 Corvette and smoke all the weed I want now.

    • @rogersmith7808
      @rogersmith7808 8 місяців тому +8

      Troll. This is a serious topic so maybe leave the comments to the adults.

    • @pizzaparty-r1c
      @pizzaparty-r1c 8 місяців тому +1

      @@rogersmith7808 lol. uhmm...ok. Thank you for the compliment.

    • @nathanhale6368
      @nathanhale6368 8 місяців тому

      What does P/T stand for?

    • @jmal1776
      @jmal1776 8 місяців тому

      @@nathanhale6368 Permanent and Total

    • @benliftin4awhile
      @benliftin4awhile 7 місяців тому +1

      Id have just not said a damn thing if I were you.