Chess Opening TIER LIST for the Grandmaster Level with GothamChess

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  • @Xplayer007
    @Xplayer007 4 роки тому +840

    Hikaru: Can remember random games against GMs from 2004
    Also Hikaru: Forgets the difference between Scholar's Mate and Fool's Mate

    • @ME0WMERE
      @ME0WMERE 2 роки тому +132

      to be fair he would literally never see it at his level

    • @Disfuguredbatman
      @Disfuguredbatman Рік тому +1

      Fr

    • @thenewlbj
      @thenewlbj Рік тому +2

      i only remember like 10 openings

    • @thelightknight4772
      @thelightknight4772 Рік тому

      D4 D5 BG4 E6 KnG3

    • @Opanker_
      @Opanker_ Рік тому +4

      @@ME0WMERE It's literally never seen in any level, unless it's like some kids making random pawn moves

  • @notanansi7628
    @notanansi7628 4 роки тому +7604

    Imagine knowing any of these openings. This post made by the 500 gang

    • @e-man1916
      @e-man1916 4 роки тому +817

      e4 d4 gang 👊😎

    • @falsealarm747
      @falsealarm747 4 роки тому +429

      four knights gang

    • @xa-1274
      @xa-1274 4 роки тому +70

      I’m mad that the queens gambit and the morphy defense weren’t included. My 2 fav openings

    • @alexander9601
      @alexander9601 4 роки тому +52

      @catz64 The 4 knights opening is when you and your opponent develop your knights to c3, f3 and c6, f6 in the opening

    • @王海-w6x
      @王海-w6x 4 роки тому +8

      you have to learn openings and games to climb that's just how chess is played

  • @parthisMC
    @parthisMC 4 роки тому +3191

    Hikaru is basically like: Levy, what's your opinion on this opening?
    Levy: Well.. I think it should go here...
    Hikaru: Ding dong your opinion is wrong.

    • @aziznblues19
      @aziznblues19 4 роки тому +21

      hahahahah

    • @infinitea6179
      @infinitea6179 4 роки тому +41

      Yeah man I feel bad for him

    • @heroricspiritfreinen38
      @heroricspiritfreinen38 4 роки тому +120

      This whole video was just levy conforming to hikaru's opinions. Kinda sad

    • @kaitoti21
      @kaitoti21 4 роки тому +6

      Really? Skipping the video then, better if he just did it himself

    • @luanly1989
      @luanly1989 4 роки тому +305

      @@heroricspiritfreinen38 Well it is suppose to be just Hikaru's list. He had Levy join him for banter. Since the list is for GM it would be weird if an IM's opinion would outweighs a GM's opinion.

  • @kabooplays9057
    @kabooplays9057 4 роки тому +1570

    Timestamps for each opening;
    1. Advanced Dragon - 0:15
    2. Advanced Caro Kann - 4:15
    3. Advanced French - 6:49
    4. Alapin Sicilian - 9:09
    5. Alekhine's Defense - 11:15
    6. Benoni - 13:12
    7. Berlin Defense - 15:41
    8. Bongcloud - 17:38
    9. Budapest Gambit - 19:08
    10. Caro Kann - 20:51
    11. Catalan - 22:26
    12. Closed Sicilian - 24:28
    13. Danish Gambit - 26:22
    14. Dutch Defense - 28:19
    15. English - 30:42
    16. Exchange Caro Kann - 32:35
    17. Exchange French - 34:21
    18. Fools Mate - 35:47
    19. Fred - 37:40
    20. Four Knight's Italian Game - 38:53
    21. French Defense - 41:21

    • @Tarnbar
      @Tarnbar 4 роки тому +45

      where can I find part 2? Iwant to see them shit on my beloved Kings Gambit

    • @Gloriath1
      @Gloriath1 4 роки тому +1

      @@Tarnbar same :D

    • @shazbots
      @shazbots 4 роки тому +5

      Thank you so much for this

    • @ginoldjohn1096
      @ginoldjohn1096 4 роки тому +5

      Thanks for the timestamp

    • @oldgods914
      @oldgods914 4 роки тому +4

      Bro thankyou

  • @naphackDT
    @naphackDT 4 роки тому +409

    >splits up the Caro-Kann into multiple variants
    >ends up putting all of them right next to each other in the same tier.

    • @MagpieR6
      @MagpieR6 Рік тому

      they had even more variants in the beginner video and they werent all together

  • @wisecraftlive
    @wisecraftlive 4 роки тому +2055

    At GM level the bongcloud is legendary...

    • @sollertia_
      @sollertia_ 4 роки тому +194

      Because you will hear of it but never see it in real life with your own eyes

    • @republikadugave420
      @republikadugave420 4 роки тому +125

      Imagine a double bongcloud

    • @DivinePlant
      @DivinePlant 4 роки тому +170

      Somebody in chat “A King must lead” 😂

    • @quehinyfunu1218
      @quehinyfunu1218 4 роки тому +60

      You don't see it at the top level because they are too afraid to play such a legendary opening

    • @GukGukNinja
      @GukGukNinja 4 роки тому +115

      @@DivinePlant “If the king doesn't move, then his subjects won't follow.”

  • @cupass6179
    @cupass6179 4 роки тому +606

    levy: yeah i feel like you don't really see this move that often
    hikaru: actually, ian nepomniachtchi played this against alexander grischuk on august 12, 2019 at 6:54 pm UTC and won, also magnus carlsen played it back in 2013, also ivanchuk played it once, so....

  • @RetsamX
    @RetsamX 4 роки тому +1018

    "We are talking GM level"
    Random guy in chat: "I play Catalan and never get beaten so it's unbreakable at least"

    • @heroricspiritfreinen38
      @heroricspiritfreinen38 4 роки тому +23

      Also Levy isn't even a GM

    • @RetsamX
      @RetsamX 4 роки тому +163

      @@heroricspiritfreinen38
      Well but Levy has studied a lot of GM games and has a lot of theory knowledge. He just can't play like a GM.
      He's like me, I have knowledge of a 1400 and play like a 1000 😂

    • @heroricspiritfreinen38
      @heroricspiritfreinen38 4 роки тому +13

      @@RetsamX studying GM games and being a GM are world's apart

    • @RetsamX
      @RetsamX 4 роки тому +120

      @@heroricspiritfreinen38
      Which I didn't dispute if you read my comments.

    • @infinitea6179
      @infinitea6179 4 роки тому +49

      Rubber and Gum the best coaches aren’t gms just like Hikaru explained, there’s a difference between being able to make a good move and actually being able to explain why it’s a good move to someone else

  • @shiryonai
    @shiryonai 4 роки тому +852

    Why is Bongcloud so low on the tierlist it deserves to be higher

  • @jasontzouganatos9311
    @jasontzouganatos9311 4 роки тому +1549

    "it's important to encourage people play solid chess"
    *puts bouncloud on legendary*

    • @6500s1
      @6500s1 4 роки тому +56

      at least they mentioned going for draw is pathetic and crime against chess, sadly they didn't mention Giri in the same sentence.

    • @heroricspiritfreinen38
      @heroricspiritfreinen38 4 роки тому +6

      @@6500s1 pathetic joke

    • @rishabhsrivastava6960
      @rishabhsrivastava6960 4 роки тому +15

      @@6500s1 lol chess is a game which has the highest probablity of draw. He is a grandmaster but not everything he says is true. Hikaru likes to play chess some people like to win the tournament its the difference in mindset

    • @6500s1
      @6500s1 4 роки тому +19

      @@heroricspiritfreinen38 it's not even a joke, and what's pathetic is Giri qualifying to the Candidates by avoiding tournament play to preserve rating. That is literally pathetic.

    • @keigo2257
      @keigo2257 4 роки тому +5

      The bongcloud is as solid as it gets

  • @gillespie2482
    @gillespie2482 4 роки тому +537

    There should be an Evan's gambit with Agadmator's face on it

    • @amuricuh6143
      @amuricuh6143 4 роки тому +9

      Should be pirate, since it was after a sea captain

    • @artsenor254
      @artsenor254 4 роки тому +7

      And a Nakhmanson gambit with Jon Schrantz'.

    • @sneamer1282
      @sneamer1282 4 роки тому +6

      Morphy face would be better

    • @lastraven7205
      @lastraven7205 3 роки тому +1

      where's Evans gambit on this list?

    • @omnitroph1501
      @omnitroph1501 3 роки тому

      @Kyle Riel Because he is very good at chess.

  • @Ulkomaalainen
    @Ulkomaalainen 4 роки тому +70

    Actually IMO Fool's Mate needs indeed to be above Exchange French.
    Fool's Mate can be used to protest or have short lived fun. Exchange French just says "I hate the game of chess, I hate fun, I don't know why I am here."

  • @Poronekton
    @Poronekton 3 роки тому +133

    Levy: "you wont see the bongcloud at the gm level unless they are paid off..."
    Also Levy: "Magnus and Hikaru Double Bongcloud!!! Making history!"

    • @foxson7197
      @foxson7197 Рік тому +5

      It’s at super gm level ,not gm level Verryyyy diffffferenttttt

  • @noahnee2309
    @noahnee2309 4 роки тому +830

    I’m disappointed he didn’t review the Jerome gambit. Everyone knows it is legendary

    • @nav5738
      @nav5738 4 роки тому +13

      Jerome is love
      Jerome is life

    • @finger1079
      @finger1079 4 роки тому +7

      they did review, they agreed it was the worst opening

    • @WookieMiner1
      @WookieMiner1 4 роки тому +3

      It's all on twitch.tv mate GMHikaru It got low tier garbage

    • @itsthewiggles739
      @itsthewiggles739 4 роки тому +1

      it says part 1 in the thumbnail, i’m sure part 2 will be uploaded tomorrow

    • @lawrencewang9790
      @lawrencewang9790 4 роки тому

      Fred is legendary

  • @4dtoaster819
    @4dtoaster819 4 роки тому +63

    Thanks for making this video. I had been stuck at around 2200 rating for a long time and I did not know how improve. I now realise that there was openings that I should have known, that I never relay thought about. Learning about the bongcloud and the importance of early king development have helped me become a better chess player.

  • @Demento56
    @Demento56 3 роки тому +34

    Little did they know, Hikaru would go on to play the bong cloud for a draw against Magnus Carlsen and Levy would play the hippo against a grandmaster.

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation 2 роки тому +2

      They invented a new opening called the Double Bongcloud.

  • @kallemaki-hokkonen4850
    @kallemaki-hokkonen4850 4 роки тому +94

    "We'll be evaluating these purely from GM perspective"
    Next minute:
    "The fact that forsen lost using this opening"

    • @rowanz74
      @rowanz74 4 роки тому +2

      EXACTLY

    • @dumbbellenjoyer
      @dumbbellenjoyer 4 роки тому +18

      In his GM level opinion, the fact that a decent player like forsen lost to Nymn, arguably a worse player, defines it as a really really shit opening.

  • @itwasinthispositionerinoag7414
    @itwasinthispositionerinoag7414 4 роки тому +209

    Inevansitably there might be an opening missing from this list that you didn't consider b4

    • @beattheovenludwigvan
      @beattheovenludwigvan 4 роки тому +3

      aahahahahhhha

    • @niccosthoughts3798
      @niccosthoughts3798 4 роки тому +5

      No Evan's gambit... unbelievable

    • @rowanz74
      @rowanz74 4 роки тому +27

      When Father Agad sees this mockery, this injustice, this disrespect, he shall first say "hello everyone" and then descend on Hikaru from above, frothing at the mouth with rage and ready to sacrifice not just his nice sip of water but also the entire glass, which will smash on Hikaru's head with a faint echo, because agad didn't say "sorry about that".
      And then he will teach Hikaru how to pronounce agadmator, goddamnit!

    • @thatoneguy9582
      @thatoneguy9582 4 роки тому +1

      No I’m pretty sure he put the Polish Opening there
      unless I’m actually an idiot and that’s not it

    • @thatoneguy9582
      @thatoneguy9582 4 роки тому +1

      principal Cookie
      oh wait yeah I’m fucking stupid I thought he meant 1. b4

  • @zestyfg
    @zestyfg 4 роки тому +104

    Bongcloud deserves a tier of its own: unbreakable garbage!

    • @burrri
      @burrri 4 роки тому +17

      Legendary garbage 🗑️

  • @choojunwyng8028
    @choojunwyng8028 4 роки тому +154

    Someone in the chat said GM Groupchat which makes me think there is a secret messaging group full of GMs just sharing cool games, chess theory, chess memes, and dissing each other.

    • @starboiklem8381
      @starboiklem8381 4 роки тому +65

      I heard they removed Magnus from the group chat because he kept saying too weak too slow

    • @PeterSodhi
      @PeterSodhi 4 роки тому +11

      They are much more secretive on ideas to than people would think

    • @amuricuh6143
      @amuricuh6143 4 роки тому +1

      There is

    • @Cnut_the_grape
      @Cnut_the_grape 4 роки тому +59

      "I was playing chess with your sister last night, she got mated"

    • @stonecraftbros2977
      @stonecraftbros2977 4 роки тому +25

      @@Cnut_the_grape " She put up a good fight, but I managed to penetrate at last"

  • @ricen0odle118
    @ricen0odle118 4 роки тому +52

    12:03 how tf does he remember what opening he played and against who from a match 16 years ago wtff

    • @dumbbellenjoyer
      @dumbbellenjoyer 4 роки тому +13

      Imagine you study a textbook a tonne so you remember formula and such.
      Thats how chess players learn, a single pro game is a textbook. So learning it means memorizing the setup

    • @rickross9829
      @rickross9829 4 роки тому +2

      Your memory regarding something you are skilled at is much better than your memory in general

    • @rickross9829
      @rickross9829 4 роки тому +3

      @Morbid Angel is better than Death It's true they write down their moves, but this is not a good point and likely has very little to do with why Naka remembered this

    • @Phurngirathaana
      @Phurngirathaana 4 роки тому +7

      Really bro?
      Any decent 2000 player would remember memorable games he's played especially if it's not a common opening

    • @yuristremel
      @yuristremel 4 роки тому +5

      The more you study a subject, the more your memory absorbs that subject. Nakamura studied chess his whole life with great concentration and that's the result, but you can have a memory like that on any field that you study

  • @vladfifty-two8530
    @vladfifty-two8530 4 роки тому +14

    Hikaru is kinda disrespectful to Levy, and his knowledge of chess. I feel like Hikaru’s the type of guy people wanna befriend, but then his personality bleeds through and forces people to retract.

    • @ibrahimvelioski1526
      @ibrahimvelioski1526 6 місяців тому

      I noticed that too

    • @pododododoehoh3550
      @pododododoehoh3550 Місяць тому +1

      If this is how you think, be wouldn't be at a loss for losing your friendship. Hes not disrespectful, hes just a vastly more knowledgeable player, Levi is a IM, Hikaru isn't just a Super Grand Master, hes number 2 on the planet in a time where the number 1 is often stated as the greatest of all time. Levi isn't taking offense, so why you doing it on his behalf?

    • @vladfifty-two8530
      @vladfifty-two8530 Місяць тому

      @@pododododoehoh3550 Dude this was 4 years ago. Hikaru wasn't taking offense to my comment, so let me know why you're taking it on his behalf?

  • @althaz
    @althaz 4 роки тому +35

    Hikaru: "If you're trying to draw with white, you're doing something wrong."
    Also Hikaru: Intentionally opens for a draw with white vs Carlsen many times in a row.

    • @weitao100
      @weitao100 4 роки тому +5

      its because during the champiaoship, Carlsen needs to get a win in order to win. Thats why everyone is trying to get draw against the champion of a certain mode because you get a win if you draw against the current champion of that mode

    • @Mana_Thief
      @Mana_Thief 4 роки тому +1

      @@weitao100 So you understand the irony, right?

    • @victorkaranja2837
      @victorkaranja2837 4 роки тому +1

      Those are rules for mortals, aliens don't follow these rules.

  • @Football-oe4hl
    @Football-oe4hl 4 роки тому +69

    Hikaru: you play the French, you're just playing for a draw, it's bad.
    Me a French defense player: ... Understandable. Have a nice day. *Cries*

    • @ssvpavlos
      @ssvpavlos 4 роки тому +16

      but he didn't say that about the french he said that about the exchange variation (wich white chooses to play not black)

    • @GuillaumeT96
      @GuillaumeT96 2 роки тому

      I use French and Dutch, I've been really bro'ed

  • @tyvamakes5226
    @tyvamakes5226 4 роки тому +51

    There's one opening that no one will understand
    The Barnes defense

    • @SumNutOnU2b
      @SumNutOnU2b 4 роки тому +12

      It is an insult to the legendary Mr Barnes that any opening should be called the Barnes _Defense_.
      The man did not _defend,_ he only attacked.

    • @tyvamakes5226
      @tyvamakes5226 4 роки тому +8

      @@SumNutOnU2b "The best defense is a good offense"

    • @meermeer6882
      @meermeer6882 4 роки тому +1

      **F4**

  • @bobthabuilda1525
    @bobthabuilda1525 4 роки тому +26

    "Catalan is great!"
    "I put it in garbage"
    "...oh..."

  • @cindya9791
    @cindya9791 4 роки тому +82

    36:16 you'd think hikaru would know scholar's mate by now especially after xqc

  • @Aelfraed26
    @Aelfraed26 4 роки тому +15

    A GM that streams, makes tier lists and uses clickbait thumbnails.
    I love it. What a time to be alive.

  • @aymodaslacker8852
    @aymodaslacker8852 4 роки тому +6

    I cant even remember the game I played like 5 minutes ago and this guy just prays to his ceiling and memorize game from 16 years ago.

  • @kozy2170
    @kozy2170 4 роки тому +71

    no way the video stops right before the fried liver

    • @Danarcis
      @Danarcis 4 роки тому +1

      The stream crashed

    • @niveshproag3761
      @niveshproag3761 4 роки тому +3

      @@Danarcis so we won't get the rest?

    • @kozy2170
      @kozy2170 4 роки тому

      Danarcis damn ty

    • @GMHikaru
      @GMHikaru  4 роки тому +30

      Parts 2 and 3 posting soon - it was too long otherwise

    • @kozy2170
      @kozy2170 4 роки тому +3

      thanks haiku lovin the content❤️

  • @moonlightfinger
    @moonlightfinger 4 роки тому +8

    Dude, the bongcloud section hahahaha, I'm still laughing....

  • @blindfaith8777
    @blindfaith8777 2 роки тому +3

    Another nice thing about the bong cloud is that it improves the morale of the other pieces.

  • @chillociraptor5007
    @chillociraptor5007 3 роки тому +4

    I think that one of the most impressive things about Mr. Nakamura, is not only his superb playing of chess, but his ability to remember specific games from various years. A truly outstanding memory.

  • @joshuatan9115
    @joshuatan9115 4 роки тому +35

    WHERE IS EVAN'S GAMBIT

  • @Robertl-xz6yl
    @Robertl-xz6yl 4 роки тому +13

    Missed the Albin counter gambit but I expect it’d be in tricks only anyways, seen IMs play it but I think Morezevich was the only GM to use it regularly.

  • @TheArcher143
    @TheArcher143 4 роки тому +48

    I'm disappointed there is no Bong Cloud tier.

    • @4545guillermaso
      @4545guillermaso 4 роки тому +10

      It's banned in tournaments, that's probably why.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 4 роки тому

      You see the "Legendary" category, right?

    • @TheArcher143
      @TheArcher143 4 роки тому +3

      @@andrewhatfield2859 Looks like you missed the joke.

    • @4545guillermaso
      @4545guillermaso 4 роки тому +15

      @@andrewhatfield2859 Have you ever seen it in a GM tournament? That's because it's banned.

  • @waltwhitman7545
    @waltwhitman7545 3 роки тому +3

    bongcloud, jerome, fred, tennison ICBM and the grob are all GOAT status level strats that are in their own stratosphere of understanding

  • @kayoh30_
    @kayoh30_ 4 роки тому +7

    *Me, slowly nodding my head, having no idea what any of this means*: "Ah ha, yeah, that makes sense."

  • @GetterRay
    @GetterRay 4 роки тому +12

    That sigh when Levy says the Bongcloud is "second to the Berlin" like he couldn't even believe he was saying it lol

  • @rowanz74
    @rowanz74 4 роки тому +13

    The picture for the Advanced French should be -wait for it- the Quebecois flag. 😂

  • @heroricspiritfreinen38
    @heroricspiritfreinen38 4 роки тому +29

    There was a GM that told carlsen the Bird Opening was garbage
    Carlsen then beat him with the bird opening.
    Nakamura be careful.

    • @luckyjc8702
      @luckyjc8702 4 роки тому +12

      Beating someone weaker than you with a bad opening doesn't prove that the opening is good though

    • @phen-themoogle7651
      @phen-themoogle7651 4 роки тому +4

      Lucky J C good point, I’ve done 8 knight shuffles in a row and still beat some players. And I made an account called knightshuffler on lichess that at one point made it to 2000+ where I’m only doing knight shuffles for my openings , I do at least 2 usually. But when I felt like I could survive against anyone and tried this against Stockfish I got crushed in like 10 moves lmao 😂 humans can play anything against other humans sometimes depending on time control but against the best engines bad openings are really really bad.

  • @Pablit0Games
    @Pablit0Games 4 роки тому +4

    Alekhine: beeing grandmaster and top1 for few years
    Hikaru: Alekhine's defence garbage LUL Pepega
    FeelsBadMan R.I.P. Alekhine, I will continue your will by beating Hikaru once with your defence.

  • @danpf7943
    @danpf7943 4 роки тому +5

    The Bongcloud makes sense in the "King of the Hill" variation.

  • @victor-gn4jg
    @victor-gn4jg 4 роки тому +2

    So many openings missing but its understandable since you would need to do a waay longer video to cover all of them. Would love to see where you rank other GM openings like the Nimzo,QID, semi-slav, QGD, tarrasch Defense, other variants of the sicilian like the Taimanov, Vienna Gane and Gambits like the Benko or Evans.

    • @ym276
      @ym276 4 роки тому

      There are far too many variations to cover them all

  • @noahhastings6145
    @noahhastings6145 3 роки тому +4

    "I think this is tricks only"
    Hikaru: "I'm sorry what??!"

  • @peely12345
    @peely12345 4 роки тому +1

    One of my subs really loves your thumbnails

  • @Incepter.
    @Incepter. Рік тому +3

    Liked how Hikaru and Levy talked so professionally on how Bongcloud deserved to be in the Legendary tierlist...

  • @GrayCatbird1
    @GrayCatbird1 4 роки тому +2

    What kind of memory does a man got to have to not only remember all these openings but also remember specific instances where you used them yourselves?? I'm just quite impressed

  • @jonathanrobinson8926
    @jonathanrobinson8926 4 роки тому +3

    I love how this has such good serious commentary, but at the same time dips so far into meme.

  • @PraishanJoshi
    @PraishanJoshi Рік тому +2

    Hikaru casually mentioning all the GMs he beat WHILE ranking the openings...

  • @MrAceClutch
    @MrAceClutch 4 роки тому +11

    Fools mate should be legendary, it’s ICONIC

  • @KidsLearnHTML
    @KidsLearnHTML 3 роки тому +1

    32:35 Exchange Caro: I beg to differ. 5 ...Qc7!? starts black on the road to equality.

  • @kenmendoza6932
    @kenmendoza6932 4 роки тому +38

    GMs tier list next?

    • @SonoftheBread
      @SonoftheBread 4 роки тому

      @@joedorben3504 fax no printer

    • @sneamer1282
      @sneamer1282 4 роки тому

      GM players from the past would be fun

  • @raygreen2134
    @raygreen2134 4 роки тому +1

    Just coming back to appreciate the fact that why the Bong Cloud is legendary based on the 2020 st louis chess tournament.

  • @siddxartxa
    @siddxartxa 4 роки тому +54

    Why does Hikaru talk to young Trotsky?

  • @inemanja
    @inemanja 4 роки тому +5

    1:20 Actually, it's a GéZa Maróczy... GiGa is for the Giga Moravatz

  • @galacticstorm854
    @galacticstorm854 4 роки тому +10

    I love how Hikaru lost against Magnus with White in the Alekhine’s Defense 😂😂

    • @jeremy1909
      @jeremy1909 3 роки тому

      Magnus beat wesley so with the bong clouds
      At the gm level opening seems less relevant

  • @rusafulkarim8546
    @rusafulkarim8546 4 роки тому +1

    I love the content, it’s also incredibly informative. Can’t thank you enough for posting these Hikaru

  • @joedorben3504
    @joedorben3504 4 роки тому +12

    So you put the Portuguese Gambit, King's Gambit, Smith Morra, Sodium Attack, Benoni, Dragon, Ponziani, etc but no Benko, Evans Gambit, Semi Slav, or Two Knights Defense? And why not Halloween Gambit if you're gonna put meme ones like the Bongcloud, Jerome, etc?

    • @Coldactill64
      @Coldactill64 4 роки тому +15

      In Hikaru's defense it's probably because he doesn't care about your opinion

    • @dumbbellenjoyer
      @dumbbellenjoyer 4 роки тому +2

      Bongcloud is legit legendary. Anyone who uses it in a pro game will be famous

    • @duck8712
      @duck8712 4 роки тому

      there's only so many hours in a day

  • @greenoftreeblackofblue6625
    @greenoftreeblackofblue6625 Рік тому +1

    I think that the Fool's mate is legit just better than the exchange french because at least you lose immediately, like you lose instantly you accomplished your goal(of losing).
    With the exchange french you don't even get what your going for in the beginning because you still have to play a whole game out to make the draw. If you wanted to make the draw with e4 you would just play the Berlin and complete your goal immediately. That's why the Fool's mate is better because you get your goal done as fast as possible and with the exchange french you don't even get it over with, it's a time waster and there's a better faster way to make the draw that pleases everyone.

    • @greenoftreeblackofblue6625
      @greenoftreeblackofblue6625 Рік тому

      Like I know your white and it's different but why didn't you just offer a draw. Like this is a way as losing or drawing as white and it's just was faster to lose instantly.

  • @jackstrider9509
    @jackstrider9509 4 роки тому +5

    Heartbreaking to see Hikaru doesn't give attention to the details like the name of Géza Maróczy.

  • @asif6317
    @asif6317 4 роки тому +2

    Missed the stream yesterday, so glad it's on UA-cam ♥️

  • @SasidharPamganamamula
    @SasidharPamganamamula 4 роки тому +13

    Google is savage. It placed this in my recommended videos right after Carlsen beat Naka in their Game 1 of the blitz portion of Day 4 (Carlsen Chess Tour Finals) using Alekhine's defence :)
    Spoiler: Naka says Alekhine's defence is garbage.
    P.S.
    I know Naka won the match in Armageddon but he still lost to Magnus playing the Alekhine :)

  • @anonymhous8875
    @anonymhous8875 3 роки тому +3

    So, Is the tier from the perspective of white or black ?

  • @markmartinez2530
    @markmartinez2530 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you. This will inform my opening repertoire on the way to PM, Pepega Master

  • @schwebor
    @schwebor 4 роки тому +2

    "If your playing for a draw with white your doing smth wrong" .... the only draw i got against a player who was 350 elo points higher rated than me (he was around 2000) i got with white in an exchange french....

    • @mubaraksenju7521
      @mubaraksenju7521 3 роки тому

      every time I'm playing against someone with a rating of 100-200 or more than me, I'll just exchange as many pieces a possible so as to not complicate things haha..

  • @dumbbellenjoyer
    @dumbbellenjoyer 4 роки тому +3

    I can't wait to see Hikaru beat magnus with the bong cloud

  • @merikijiya13
    @merikijiya13 3 роки тому

    Advance bongcloud Cagnus Marlson variation ends with the queen checkmating the king and making a prince that can teleport to any square twice per turn.

  • @traplover6357
    @traplover6357 4 роки тому +7

    Favorite openings by computer engines would be a dope idea!

  • @andrewszaflarski5379
    @andrewszaflarski5379 4 роки тому +2

    John Bartholomew as the pic for the Scandi. Heck yes!!!! #teamscandi

  • @luckyjc8702
    @luckyjc8702 4 роки тому +17

    26:54
    Hi, twitch chat.

  • @Demokritos1000
    @Demokritos1000 4 роки тому

    Amazing foreshadowing at 12:51 "I'm sure that now that I've put it in garbage someone gone play it against me in some rapid game"

  • @meenasamaan481
    @meenasamaan481 4 роки тому +15

    where is the rest? why did u stop?

    • @mare4135
      @mare4135 4 роки тому +1

      Part 1 my man

    • @meenasamaan481
      @meenasamaan481 4 роки тому

      @@mare4135 it didnt say part 1 in the title or in the description

    • @cupass6179
      @cupass6179 4 роки тому +1

      @@meenasamaan481 it says it in the thumbnail

    • @laawlduuud3588
      @laawlduuud3588 4 роки тому

      PepegaBlind wr

    • @lusi3851
      @lusi3851 4 роки тому

      There are thousands of openings I don't think they're gonna rank all of them

  • @AdamPresa
    @AdamPresa 2 роки тому +1

    Throwback to when I started chess a year ago and couldn’t figure out which of the openings were for white or black😅

  • @Netizpossible
    @Netizpossible 4 роки тому +4

    You can tell how much the chat lags by measuring the time between Hikaru flexes, and the massive amounts of WeirdChamps in the chat.

  • @epiccentraltoo9492
    @epiccentraltoo9492 4 роки тому +3

    bro i gotta change my opening now everyones going to be playing c4 on my accelerated dragon thanks hikaru

  • @basedhutao775
    @basedhutao775 4 роки тому +3

    Hahahahahaha imagine the first person to play against the bongcloud

  • @berndbrot7044
    @berndbrot7044 Рік тому

    „He couldn’t tear down that wall“ is the best joke ever made, and nobody even noticed it.

  • @Leopessiii10
    @Leopessiii10 4 роки тому +11

    Queens Gambit not being a legendary opening was the only thing disappointing in the opening tier list.

    • @joedorben3504
      @joedorben3504 4 роки тому +2

      Why would it be a legendary opening lmao it's so drawish and mediocre at the top level. QGD on the other hand is for sure legendary for black.

    • @cynidhino9414
      @cynidhino9414 4 роки тому +1

      @@joedorben3504 Its drawish cuz there is a lot of closed play which involves skill, and at least you don't lose and can have a shot against a higher rated player who would spank you in an open game.

    • @joedorben3504
      @joedorben3504 4 роки тому +5

      @@cynidhino9414 it takes *skill* yet it allows you not to lose against higher rated, and undoubtedly more *skilled* opponents? what kind of logic is that? black can definitely open the game up against queens gambit if he wants.

    • @cynidhino9414
      @cynidhino9414 4 роки тому

      @@joedorben3504 Yes, bcuz at average level even higher rated opponents don't have the skill to play closed systems.

    • @joedorben3504
      @joedorben3504 4 роки тому +2

      @@cynidhino9414 but theyll still stomp you. dont play the queens gambit just bc you're afraid of losing if you play a better opening lmao

  • @neilrhyanllumpera8712
    @neilrhyanllumpera8712 Рік тому

    Berlin ( Legenday ) 15:45 / [ 42:18 ]
    Catalan ( Unbreaable )
    English ( Unbreakable )
    Advance Caro- Kann ( Legit )
    Caro-Kann ( Legit )
    Exchange Caro-Kann ( Legit )
    Accelerated Dragon ( Legit )
    Dutch Defense ( Really?)
    Closed Sicilian ( Really )
    Advance French ( Really )
    Alapin Sicilian ( Really )
    Benoni ( Tricks Only )
    Danish Gambti ( Tricks Only )

  • @killereagle666
    @killereagle666 4 роки тому +4

    Every time I face a Benoni I actually say aloud : "really bro.. Really?............ A benoni?" So I'm glad it wasn't in a higher tier :P
    Fits with my understanding of chess.

  • @sleepy4x
    @sleepy4x 3 роки тому +2

    The Berlin Defense was "invented" in the middle of the 19th century and not in the 1950's.

  • @cacheman
    @cacheman 4 роки тому +6

    Spoiler: Ends with 34 openings left to rate. Part 2 incoming?

    • @sneamer1282
      @sneamer1282 4 роки тому +1

      It literally says "part 1" in the thumbnail of the video

    • @cacheman
      @cacheman 4 роки тому

      @@sneamer1282 Spoiler: Thumbnails can be updated at any time.

  • @nopeyt3387
    @nopeyt3387 2 роки тому +1

    I love how stupid the bongcloud is that it actually works.

  • @TheBeakertube
    @TheBeakertube 4 роки тому +6

    Hot take, Hikaru is a narcissistic egomaniac.

  • @AStixMatism
    @AStixMatism 3 роки тому +1

    I quite literally spat out my coffee in surprise when i saw bongcloud at the top in the thumbnail

  • @heroricspiritfreinen38
    @heroricspiritfreinen38 4 роки тому +6

    Levy talking about the GM level when he's an IM lmao

  • @rrenaissauce
    @rrenaissauce 4 роки тому

    Hey what happened to all the other ones? I was so excited to see the Queen‘s Gambit, Ruy Lopez and Reti opening which were the first three I started learning once I began playing. Such a great video, so insane the internet allows us these insights for free

  • @JoeKell365
    @JoeKell365 4 роки тому +1

    i feel like "Unbreakable" is a bad name for its category. something like "Powerful" would definitely be a lot more fitting, and i feel like the tier names are definitely influencing your opinions on the openings

  • @dudeweedlmao8519
    @dudeweedlmao8519 4 роки тому +1

    I love how the image for Najdorf is Kasparov with a smug face

  • @Life-Sky
    @Life-Sky 3 роки тому +1

    The Alekhine in garbage? *cries*
    I really like it, Magnus plays it sometimes and you really skip many e4-e5 lines that are complicated, you either get the alekhine or the 4 knights which you will have a lot of experience with as black.

  • @adamgarner4149
    @adamgarner4149 Рік тому

    Bongcloud no memes i've found works really well against anyone under 1000 elo also. It completely scrambles ALL their very limited opening theory knowledge and it's funny to watch them push out queens/dark squared bishop and then not know what to do with it because the king is on e2 and you can have fun trapping it. Provided you are over 1200 elo of course. If you are evenly matched with your opponent never do it.

  • @felipeamaral8061
    @felipeamaral8061 Рік тому

    Also the Catilan opening being so much more popular now because of carslen using it during the wcc

  • @elmerinase5734
    @elmerinase5734 3 роки тому +2

    So what this means is that Vampire Gambit is unbreakable. I have never been so happy.

  • @elasiduo108
    @elasiduo108 4 роки тому

    Exchange French: Please, Black, equalize immediatly. ¬¬
    Exchange Caro-Khan: All the difference is in the imbalace, grasshopper.
    Benoni: I'll give up the center for some funny fianchetto shenanigans. I hope this doesn't blow up in my face with White playing f4... (kaboom)
    English: I'm versatile.
    Advance French: The d4 pawn says: "I'm in Danger".

  • @stevenlakes8737
    @stevenlakes8737 9 місяців тому +1

    It’s sad to see how highly Hikaru talks of Kramnik and his contributions to chess when we see how Kramnik views him today 😢

  • @bogdanconstantin8182
    @bogdanconstantin8182 4 роки тому +1

    10:51 Alapin is very nice opening 💪🏻

  • @sunritroykarmakar4406
    @sunritroykarmakar4406 3 роки тому +2

    hikaru: alekhine as garbage
    magnus: really bro...beats hikaru in the alekhine

  • @7mean7bunny7
    @7mean7bunny7 4 роки тому +2

    @GMHikaru Magnus beat Aronian and I believe Caruana with the Alekhine's fairly recently. Being one of my favorite openings, you were one of the first players that got me to try the opening when you smashed with it in the past. It is definitely not garbage Hikaru, it may be lower tier, but by far not bottom. It would really mean a lot if you corrected this in your next tier list. Thanks. Just a bit disappointed seeing that you have champion'd the opening in the past.

    • @ME0WMERE
      @ME0WMERE 2 роки тому

      breaking news: random tells GM that their opinion on an opening is wrong
      (although gms have used it to beat other gms, it doesn't mean that the opening is good)

  • @dj_koen1265
    @dj_koen1265 3 роки тому

    This is the first time i take any knowledge of chess theory
    And I learned that the opening i taught myself is called the berlin defense, i really love it as my go to playstyle