Does Anything Really Exist? | Understanding Existence
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- Does anything really exist? What really is? Is reality real? Are things or objects real? What is existence made of? Does matter exist? The hard problem of consciousness and quantum physics. These are all topics covered in this wonderfully clear description that Rupert gives about the nature of reality, when a female scientist wants to be clear on her understanding of existence.
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RS19131a
it's liberating for me to hear you saying "everything I'm saying it is a finite mind that is saying it. The only tools that I have at my disposal are words, and the words of a finite mind have evolved to describe the finite, temporary elements of experience. So I'm using these clumsy, inarticulate symbols called words which would never suppose to describe reality, and ultimately cannot describe reality because their purpose is to describe things."
Ever since I became a Nursery teacher I've been trying to understand the impact of your teachings. Now I know the role of words, it's easier to accept their purpose. Simultaneously what I can do, is to let Advita permeate my classroom environment so a higher level of teaching takes place in increasing moments of silence.
Some philosophers and spiritualists claim that this world and we, as the inhabitants, are just illusion. But interestingly, to prove that, they use very concrete logic and many abstract words. So does this thinking has any real basis?
There is analogy called “rope and snake”, used to show this phenomena. It goes like this : When one is in dark room and sees the rope on the floor, he gets scared, thinking it to be a snake. So in a same way we are thinking that this world is real but in fact it is illusory, as our thoughts are.
It is nice analogy but there is a problem. In order to mistake rope for a snake there must be real snake. So in the same way there must be real world. And our thinking is also real although faulty, because of not accepting the real Personality, of whom we are the image.
Rupert you certainly have much patience, especially when someone takes so much of your precious 'time' to get to the question. Amazing qualities Rupert.
lol YES IT'S AS IF NO ONE WANTS TO SEEM TO ASK A DUMB QUESTION SO THEY TURN IT INTO DOUBLE SPEAK SPLITTING ATTACHMENTS THEY KEEP ADDING WHILST JUST HOPING Rupert WILL SOMEHOW UNDERSTAND AND JUMP IN BEFORE THE CAR WRECK BABBLE EXPLODES lol.
Rupert dosent exist
He and you are both the illusion of your mind which (by the way dosent exist either
It's just a form of the ultimate
Always fully concentrated.
And she‘s talking and talking…
@@martycl1876⁰
The mind will never truly understand the nature of reality. We can fill our minds with lots of intellectual understandings but we must each individually ‘experience’ it for ourselves if we are to truly ‘know’.
Reality simple means that which is real....now let's investigate into what is real and who is the authority that decides it's existence... Anything that can be pointed out and accepted is real... perception is reality...it may not be the truth,however it is still real until proved otherwise..You can look at a "glass of water" as half full or half empty that's perception of an object based on ones pessimistic or optimistic approach ...but the actuality is just glass and water...when we modify a fact to our liking or our idea or understand we create a reality... reality is based on our conditioning and our current state of being..The mind is common to all humans and it is dived by regions,culture,habits, education, social ,religious and scientific norms and standards.we consider ourselves as individuals but are we not copies of genetic evolution? When we are born as infants we know nothing, we just posses the genetics of the physical body which includes the brain from our parents and ancestry. We are later told and thought everything that we know....few points to consider....did you create the language that you speak or the meaning of words and objects? We understand the world through thought patterns & cycles and these patterns or cycles become a standard.we have created and live in world of polarity like True & false,good and bad, and so on and based on our orientation we transact and live in the world.
Depends on how wide the mention of MIND and penetrating…
shackta shakti
no one here but you. 🎩
Perhaps it creates the illusion of that experience. 😉
Nothing exists. Nothing can ever exists, it just appears that exists.
Absolutely agree, but it makes so much sense internally, we are unseen in a seen body to experience life from this prospective from a separate existence self😊
I absolutely love this man, the best at painting or articulating something deep within and knows, slow down the brain a bit and one can innerstand him. I know many people won't and can't get what he means but us all us... we are invisible beings in a visible body experiencing self from this prospective 😊.. so beautiful 🙏🏾😊💜💜💜💜
Such a beautiful talk...two great minds talking with such clarity...the talk just happened in this being..here and now.
This is basically:
The World as Will and Representation - Arthur Schopenhauer
IMHO Schopenhauer's philosophy is closer to a pan-Satanism...S's "Will" is a blind lust, not even conscious, much less loving, benevolent, or Good.
Primary reality is within, secondary reality is without. 🌻
Non-dualism is the concept that might challenge the obstacle you are experiencing from going beyond your current understanding.
Hope it helps ❤️
NDE here, I have experienced exactly what Rupert Spira describes here and then some more...probably enough for me to write a book on this topic, and yet, like Rupert is saying here, our human words are not enough to describe the truth and even better, our human minds are not geared up to wrap themselves completely around to grasp the truth in its entirety. Wonderful conversation though by Mr. Spira. Congrats!!!
Me too, I had 2 NDE's. It's so difficult to try to explain in words. As soon as we do put it into words in an attempt to point, what we "know" is automatically refracted through mind.
@@annemurphy8074 That's just to proof that we are not the body and not even the mind...every time we try to rationalize through the mind, we find ourselves in the trap of duality, the five senses, the material world, Maya...the illusion of the senses...
@@shaktiveda7041Exactly.
Sure, NDE with no God and no 'truth' known.
He has so much patience to listen to someone who didn’t ask the question
I need to watch this again and again from the part when existence is discussed. Crucial video.
When I rest in Being this is entirely obvious. It’s so obvious I wonder how I could have ever missed it.
Exactly the same for me! It's the most obvious thing!
@@mystical5292 Yesssss
We would never remember if we never perceivably forgot our nature, this is the reality of the exploration of experience.
we all have noticed it as a kid and purposely forgot it to venture into joyous existence, and we keep doing this everyday, it makes every day seems like it's new.
@@inder3144 You are the Beloved
That nervous laughter at the end... I can ralate to the struggles of scientific mind.
Beautifully explained Rupert, thank you! It’s all starting to become clear all by itself, when I relax and the seeker falls away 🙏🏼
Both the question and the answer are...correct. The answer, in my opinion, was an expanded way of explaining the questioner's posits. I also feel the modern science will catch up to the knowing that physical "reality" is experienced through the mind and/or consciousness of Source. As you said, Quantum physics already addresses this. The challenge of connecting physical matter and consciousness will also be clarified. Remember, this is the Age of Enlightenment/Aquarius and many things that were once mysterious will be made commonplace. I agree that matter does not create consciousness...it is the prism through which consciousness experiences Itself. Namaste.
Science, scientists, the brain - and everything, EVERYTHING, else, forever and ever, infinitely - it ALL takes place within consciousness
You could get an argument there.
Consciousness or _human_ consciousness? Does the universe generate consciousness apart from human consciousness as an emergent property? The evolved simian (AKA "human") brain evolved consciousness as an emergent property, why couldn't the universe? When you and I die biologically, our shared quality, our human consciousness dies with us. Only our eternal particles (quantum foam?) remain to re-merge with the universe into other forms and so on and so forth.
Issue: My human consciousness at this moment has full consciousness/awareness of the universe and its existence. Once I cease to exist as a biological entity, "my" universe ends. But THE universe _continues on_ in other human consciousnesses and so on and so forth.
Question: is the universe, as a whole, self-aware?
As for the questions framed at the base of this video, they're almost identical to those posed in any Philosophy 101 class. Kant and his successors pretty much addressed these. I like Vaihinger's response as well as Wittgenstein's. That said, I recommend Gary Zukav's _The Dancing Wu-Li Masters_ for an easy to read crash course on these questions.
Be well.
@@socratesagain7822 When I say consciousness, I mean THE Consciousness, Beingness Itself, the Godhead. I should've been more clear. The universe doesn't generate consciousness; rather consciousness generates the universe and everything contained within it. You, as a biological entity, technically don't exist; you're a thought within the Infinite Godhead, as is everything. You, as the ego-body-mind system you believe yourself to be, don't have consciousness. Consciousness has you. You've got it backwards. The universe is not self-aware, the only thing aware is awareness itself
@@Aaron_Gentry Awareness vs Consciousness? 🙂
@@Aaron_Gentry You posit an interesting metaphysical view. I cannot argue with, nor respond to, another person's _beliefs_-- as a view based on belief can neither be proven nor disproved. Sorry to sound so Kantian.
And much as I hate myself for saying this, isn't a belief based on vanity? And isn't vanity based on the very human fear of death or ego-annihilation? And isn't this particular belief a _courageous_ response in the face of death's relentless approach?
Based on your view, why not encourage suicide among the unhappy, miserable and depressed? After all, according to your view, they "don't exist," even _biologically_. Euthanasia would bring relief to our fellow, "non-existent" beings trapped within seriously troubled consciousnesses...
Be well.
When you become conscious of consciousness, everything becomes vibrant and beautiful. You bypass the structured filter of the thinking mind which is constantly acting as a thin veneer over experience.
What precedes existence is unknown. You can't make the claim that Being precedes existence. But I love that Being doesn't exist it just is. That is lovely.
We should be the observers in our own lives. This means becoming too involved in the 3D world will not progress you. Attachment will weigh you down.
Travel light and then be light.
Blessings to all for your journey ahead.
🌟☄💛🌑🌒
Everything appears perfect out of space and time, inside space and time our mind see things imperfect and we feel lot to do. Actually there is nothing to do ...its all perfect.
mallu?
@@joe86569 sadanam kayilludo ?
@@sebastianeravelil9874 sadhanam kayil unde...😁
The answer is YES. Existence is existence, if you exist, you always have, are and always will, existence cannot become non-existence because energy cannot be created nor destroyed. The question, "does consciousness come from matter" is, in a sense, being asked backwards. That's true to a degree, but there in lies the conscious illusion when it comes to the physical reality which is real, but only in our conscious minds as we are the creators of all we experience. All we can do here is perceive, and perception can be highly misleading. When we came into being here, through the birth process, everything we needed was already here, like, to bring into being the t.v.. screen he spoke about. In a sense, we're creating an experience within an experience. We create "things" from that which was already here, the elements, atom's, molecule's etc. Considering this is a reflection of our true minds, everything we need as conscious beings already exists, always has, is and always will. Everything "you" need to create an experience already exists. So back to the question. I am creating this experience and it's being had in my conscious mind, not in the literal physical sense. We came into being, "the one" became "the all that is" to express and experience itself as more than what it was. I am just one aspect of infinite aspects of the all that is. My physical body came into being in similar fashion, to express myself, seemingly, as more than I am. So our conscious mind is the creator of matter, we experience it as matter, our human brain is used as part of that matter to THINK. So it comes from us, goes through a physical filter and goes back out in a seeming cycle. All that said, at the end of the day, the only anything that matters here is not even the experience, but how we experience the experience. The experience is just a mean's to that. At it's deepest and truest level, we're so highly creative that we actually convinced ourselves "forgot on purpose" that we're actually human when nothing could be further from the truth, we're conscious being creating a physical experience.
This expression from Rupert will give so many people views and explanations/pathways to follow. Like walking a mountain trial, many use a walking stick to affirm a solid step forward. Do you feel that voice inside that whispers to your soul, that causes you to pause and asks you "Is it true?" Where do others stand in their personal journeys? Do you offer such encouragements to help them achieve goals? I bet you do. If you are reading this comment, I believe that you are one who feels a deeper connection to understanding your own purpose and sooner or later, this kind of involvement will be too much for you to put aside on a daily basis and will grab hold of each of you to shift gears and take additional paths into self awareness and discoveries for humanity.
That was classic mind blowing Rupert. 🤯😊👍🏼❤️
Sir you are really blessing for humanity
Rupert is sooo kind!!
I’ve always been a deep thinker always questioning things since a kid and after doing psychedelics as an adult it’s only gotten more intense and I’m curious for answers yet scared at the same time but I find it mind blowing anything exists God or no god. I can’t think about it too hard or I freak out but I do still like to think about it a lot and after doing psychedelics from my personal experiences I’d say consciousness is not just apart of the brain and body but idk
Thank you so much for this wonderful clarity dear Rupertji
Thank you for explaing the entanglement of why the fish in the bowl can't see the water.
Rupert, you are absolutely wonderful! You amazed me and made me laugh when you said: "Not a single word I say is absolutely true." But paradoxically, what you say brings us closer to the truth.
Nobody has ever shown that anything really exists. There have just been empty claims throughout history, without any evidence to them, that things exist.
Closer to the truth is to say , can’t get enough…you’re going to have to face it your addicted to love. Might as well face it.
Rupert has an amazing way of explaining truth!
We are blessed to have his words.
Absolutely.
You are amazing too!
did u even watch the full video? lol i'm being snarky
@@chrizles yes snarky🤗
Rupert🙏 I feel so grateful to you for sharing your wisdom and for sharing it in such a clear way. With love and gratitude🙏
Much love everyone 🙏🙏🙏🇺🇦
Challenging questions led to amazing answers! Thank you Rupert
That's a good description of what is called emptiness in Buddhism.
"Whatever the experiencer feels or thinks is all in the consciousness, and is not real." (Nisargadatta Maharaj)
As you say the only thing we can be aware of is awareness
There is a hard problem and that's the hard problem of matter
Ie why this waking dream is so consistent day to day
Many scientists (physicists and neuroscientists) believe that space time are not fundamental
Thank you so much
Tat Tuam Asi
One nondual awareness, Beingness -》 intelligence, consciousness -》 Mind =》 physical objects -》 conventional reality? maybe 🙂
The screen analogy is Ramana's favorite one.
You ARE the screen, he says
For Sankara, it was ClearCrystal reflecting a hibiscus flower.
Laws of physics ( space, time) = root assumptions, agreements for existence /experience in this plane/dream. according to "Seth Speaks"
22:00 - 22:15 avangmaanasagocharam 😁
Wonderful and thought provoking ideas! Wish to hear more and more!
Regarding his disagreement with Sam Harris, it’s interesting to note that Harris completely agrees with Spira about non-duality. He believes whole heartedly that the separate sense of self is an illusion and that *from the point of view* of experience, everything occurs within experience. Harris just remains agnostic about the connection (or lack thereof) between consciousness and the supposed material world. Spira is fond of saying “the point of view of consciousness is the only point of view” and there’s a sense in which that’s clearly literally true. If there is a material world, it wouldn’t have a point of view. That doesn’t mean there is no material world, and although it’s never something we can prove, the contents of consciousness offer an overwhelming abundance of evidence to *imply* a material world. Or, at the very least, a world outside what Spira calls the finite mind. If this world is made of consciousness, that’s fine I suppose, but if obeys the laws of physics it’s almost just a semantic distinction to say it’s made of consciousness and not made of matter.
I often wondered why their meeting got so…frosty… when they clearly have a lot that they agree on!
A world outside the infinite mind? Have you ever experienced a thing that exists outside of consciousness? Try to imagine what that would even be like. Some thing that exists outside of consciousness. All I get is imagination. What about you? We are staying close to our direct experience only in finding truth. Not imagination. That isn’t real. The body, experienced IN consciousness. Thoughts. Come and go IN consciousness. Perceptions. Come and go IN consciousness. Sensations. Come and go IN consciousness. Consciousness is the only unchanging element found throughout all experience. It’s aware presence. All objects appear IN consciousness. That is your experience. Now take away consciousness. Where will all these apparent objects manifest in? It is the continuity that allows for discontinuity
I'm pretty sure Spira says there is a world outside a finite mind. But, that world is made of consciousness and not matter.
相手の意識位置を把握し、
アドバイス・導き・そのアプローチがいつも素晴らしい🌠
Thank you, Rupert, for sharing another wonderfully rich video! 🙏
Silke asks some really profound questions - sounds like she is a scientist. We will hopefully hear more from her in the future. I did not understand that last part about no time vs habits and repeated actions. From my limited perspective, it seemed like he did not really answer her. Fascinating stuff. I don't understand a lot of it and yet it seems to ring true.
THE UNIVERSE ITSELF IS DREAMING ALL OF THIS
In a mind posture consciousness is sleep walking by living an illusion it weaves out of itself.
He remains so calm to people's lack of cohesiveness
Absolutely perfect thank you for helping me understand
Yo that was wicked, when i was listening to this i felt that click, a feeling where all my thoughts are absolutely limited to human things that affect us on our little planet, and there's probably other beings elsewhere worrying about completely different things in different ways, the reality we're experiencing is a part of everything but very much a small thing
You are finally beginning to See! Great comment to read in this Now.
This will sound weird but as soon as I come home from work, I put on my dog/cat level of awarness and just turn off all uncessesary human drama garbage lol, maybe a nap/rest/meditation for however long I feel like and no thinking about the world, all that exists for me is the preset moment and the room I occupy.
@@Korvxx Right on
Nobody has ever shown that anything really exists. There have just been empty claims throughout history, without any evidence to them, that things exist.
The only thing that can come in and out of existence is existence itself.
Meaning.
The self quivalent existing thought alone exists soly based on its existence prior to that point of thought alone.
This can be questioned on other scopable means.
Thanks
Nobody has ever shown that anything really exists. There have just been empty claims throughout history, without any evidence to them, that things exist.
@@taowaycamino4891 if your left shoe knew of its right foot then would it fit the same as the left foot or because feet don't exist then so does a left shoe fit either one...
@@condorianeverdormentailast9703 That shows my point.
@@taowaycamino4891 i believed it would.
@@condorianeverdormentailast9703 It does since there is no evidence that can confirm the truth of anything you just said.
Excellent.... thanks 🙏.
Beautiful and simplified!
The Maharishi Mahesh Yogi spoke extensively on the subject of 'consciousness and Quantum Mechanics' during a teacher training course in Austria in 1970. Having formally studied Physics, having attained his degree in his early years as a student...
Loved this !!!!
Rupert’s analogy of the screen has always resonated with me. His teachings are similar to those of Sydney Banks on Mind Thought and Consciousness. One quote of his that i like is that “Nature is the form that spirit takes” it is a difficult task to become free of our selves. Well done Rupert your language is so precise and helpful in answering the questions put to you thanks 🙏
The real question about existence is about balance and not about origin and matter.
🙂 the questioner didn’t get it because she is trying to understand this through the concepts of the mind, thoughts 💭 that could never contain the absolute truth. The thoughts about it will always seem paradoxical because of their limitation. That truth can only be experienced directly beyond the thoughts in the Consciousness itself.
Their is no mind. That's the problem. “ Everything “ trying to be understood, through something that does not exist, is not an easy task.
One “ perceives “ to be creating, one is not created. That's what causes the
“ Percieved “ paradox to arise.
Sent in peace 🐉🌞🌙🙏
@@SevenRemedies : I am really against You.
@@aedadlan5134 who is asking this question? 🙂
@@aedadlan5134 hi there, the Absolute Truth cannot be understood or contained by the finite mind (your thoughts) you can only know it or Be it as the Universal Consciousness that you are. So if I answer your question on the level of thought in the realm of duality - I’d say “I do not know” we could also say the truth is the Consciousness (God) itself, but that would mean nothing to our finite minds. To know it you have to Be it, that is why ask yourself “Who is asking?”, “Who am I?” to go deeper and Know and Be who you really are.
Trying to understand consciousness is like trying to see your own eye
Absolutely masterful.
To contemplate if things exist while seemingly existing makes me feel like existing exists when I'm existing and that existence will exist without there being someone to question it as well. To be at peace with oneself is not exactly an easy task if you are still looking for physical things to provide that peace.
Existence wouldn't exist for you if you didn't exist to question it. If no one had eyes, would the universe exist? It might, but not for those who can't see it. If a tree fall in the woods and there's no one around to hear it would it make a sound, no, it wouldn't, because ears are needed to hear it. Point being, just as we give this earthly experience life, the universe doesn't give us life, we give life to it, simply by being here.
It’s a grand paradox.
Even the 'screen', the consciousness is unreal. Everything which has a beginning and end is unreal. You are the unborn. The dimensionless, the paramatman. 🙏🏻
Yes. I don’t exist.
One ocean of consciousness
Moving and vibrating
Creating ripples within itself
The ocean’s ripples complexify and grow heads
The ocean views itself through its heads
When the ocean views itself through its heads, it sees its ripples and other heads as ‘other’
We’re all one ocean of consciousness looking at ourself from the point of view of different heads
Science is the contemporary language of mysticism
Wow, just wow, Rupert is amazing. He gets to the heart of what Is Happening. How it happens and simply in layman's terms conveys this Divine Happening called 'Creation' via consciousness. Nice. I could listen to him for days. As a side note Dr David R. Hawkins talks are also top shelf.
But Raymond does not exist
He is an illusion.just like you and I
Being is all. The nature of reality is empty. Nothing is real.
@@jaylucas8352... Why people so
over-complexify what really IS just the basic perpetu-allly vibrating nature of ISNESS.
Blessing everything will bless "you" in return. So,
LOVE, BLESS EV'ER'Y ONE. LOVE, BLESS EV'ER'Y THING IN EV'ER'Y WAY.
GET THIS, AND BE BLESSED. FOR,
OUR LOVE IS ONLY EVER EQUAL TO OUR HUMILITY AND OUR GRATITUDE FOR THE CONFIDENCE AND THE PROWHES THAT WILL STABILISE OUR LOVE ...
Lucid explanation of Advaita Vedanta.
Such a genuine answer. ❤
Process of reality clearly exist and there is nothing permanent just this process where change is the only constant.
Regarding the issue of time its simply created by the finite mind which is living in the past trying to guess the future. Ref Scientist Lisa Feldman Barret. So the psychological mind dont live in the now, consciousness does✨
All The Love!
That’s dope that Rupert had an interview with Harris
Very well explained
Just Brilliant. A beautifully lucid explanation Rupert. One question though. The screen (being/consciousness); What is deeper? In the screen analogy the screen requires further assistance to allow it to function. Liquid crystals combined with polarizers and electric. Christopher Bache has detailed the depths of this. I wonder what your thoughts are on his work? I would very much love for you both to have a discussion about this. Truly fascinating stuff! Thank you.
Absolutely! I’ve been meditating since my initiation 50 years ago in the Himalayas with my sat guru. And still it is difficult to disconnect from the glittering universe of shakti…Maya. Meditation is the One True portal into really and out of the unreal nature of Indra’s net by which we at seduced
Excellent!
lets take an example to understand illusion. If you take a ball, break it into pieces in a way in which those pieces cannot be broken down further. What remains are just matter/atoms which possibly might not be visible to a human eye. The existence of the ball is no longer there. We termed it as a ball. but the reality is that Its just a collection of atoms. This is what happens every time with everything. What we see are just atoms, what we hear are just sound waves etc. We get attached to these and thats what is illusion/maya. This is what I have understood. Happy to correct.
If you want to get the correct equation in terms of the multiple forms of existence;
Physics says that everything that pulsates inside your body,
it is somehow a reflection of the cosmic pulse.
That means how life is in perfect sync with the larger dimension of life.
And that we are a small reflection of everything else.
That, to see more clearly,
you must see everything in reflection.
If you have a mirror
the mountain can see the mountain reflected in the mirror,
you can see the mountain and also the sky.
You can see the whole world through your two eyes, which are so small,
to reflect the entire cosmos within you;
and that makes you someone important for the entire cosmic dimension of existence.
If you understand this every moment of your life, if you keep this in your memory;
you will walk gently, breathe gently, exist gently, and let everything you touch be a blessing.
And in the multiple forms of existence,
and in the multiple sounds that the human voice can generate;
music has been one of the most powerful tools to obtain that equation towards that divinity.
It's about alignment.
of rhythm,
attention to everything.
Like everything .
Gina - Agni gi
About hard problem of consciousness Swami Sarvapriyananda also says the same thing . Sounds very much like Advaita Vedanta where everything happens in our awareness is again and again stressed .
Every thing exists as a pattern in a mind. Some of those things also share an externally verifiable existence.
Verifiable through the senses of the mind. Go far back enough and nothing can exist. The nature of being , of reality , is empty.
Thanks gretitude Dhanyabad Dhanyabad Dhanyabad ❤❤❤😮 thanks Rupertspira
Rupert is my latest obsession. I like his "seemingly" intellectual approach to teaching about the simplicity of consciousness/awareness. However, this video was funnee from start to finish. It was clear that Rupert wanted to chuckle while she was framing her question. But, like gifted educators do, he not only listened patiently, he understood. That is why he was able to answer her question so eloquently without being demeaning. Now, the interview where these dudes called each other HIGHFALUTIN, was really 🤣🤣🤣. I have to find it. Truth be told, I discussed something like this on social media this morning. BTW, Lady Quantum Physics was brave to pose the question. Yazz, Babygirl. Keep asking whatever you need to for your edification.
Genial!!!! Muchísimas gracias!!!!
It WAS really helpful.
The only thing that bothers me is why we don’t hear about how we arrive at our description of consciousness that we claim to be true. No demonstration and no process is shown for what we call consciousness apart from a function of the physical brain. We only hear about analogies without proof.
description of consciousness? really??? LOL Never heard about it.
@@evoo6 such as in spira s videos
@@beethbachmoz yeah, I wouldn't listen to it :)
Brahman Satyam , Jagat mithya. Consciousness is truth, this universe is an appearance only.
matter is due to consciousness.
Namaste Gurudev
Nice! :) Might help with the echoes of this conversation reoccuriong in some of our experience...for me it was and maybe still a valid portion of life journey essence, so i relate to that or believe so on this egoic me and you level.... when as a kid i tried to explain how this works to my father :) .... when we reach to the tipping point you know, symbolized by the hard problem in our culture... so now some ages older than those times, i find to listen and replay this questionary in self and other self configuration. Ok i see at the level every communication can be seen easily as yet an other way of the universal self inquiery echoing across Infinity... got to stop... we all know the story... so where i wanted to get is: The trigger word is science in many case due to the same sort of neglected assumption as with the hardp one. The word trigger i use because i personally have found it frustrating, or more precisely: have been repetitevly exposed to feelings vaguely described as frustration, due to my lack of wisdom to explain the obvious: the curiosity which fueled my exploration at the begining is the same as it is now, yet each given age i can relate to it in number of ways as stars on the sky... the bottom line, even when it wasnt intended as such, it naturally arose as Scientific interest... and so i play with the idea that sort of a archetypical pattern is experienced by many of us. So actually in nutshell, it is helpful to point towards Science, scientific method, the core principle is a technique, a tool, a way conduct, so as such it actually never was or could ever be against whatever is the level of description we are able to reach at any given time... It is just a matter of articulation really. I would say in many case i find idealism to be more scientific in its approaches vs materialism, as it clearly stands on imagination. So basically science is fine and it is more like an archetype. we cannot change it, it is happening and manifests in endless form, i would even dare to say things like Self-inquery and most spiritual practice and modelling are sciences. So i find it exciting to see this aspect of experience seems to getting some attention and there are beautiful community patches already in circulation, Bernardo Karstup !
So coming into existence from the base background is like a “feast” we choose and even though we cannot control it that experience is an artificial exercise of the finite mind experiencing itself.
It's biggism vs smallism
To help a scientist understand; it would help to understand the necessity of (de)coherence in quantum mechanics. A seperate mind is predicated on a coherent experience. The quasi-seperate multiversal conscious self dissolves away into (de)coherence at every plank instant, this provides us with the so-called "laws" we experience.
Wow I loved that explanation. Super clear.
The time to believe in things is when there’s evidence for it.
But pain n sickness we feel n it hurts.fear of pain n sickness is there.
listening Rupert's lectures from so many years but will get stuck when I see fear n disease.Rupert I think so many people are stuck in fear n disease please explain for us how to get rid of fear n disease.may be I m not so clever as others to understand.please please please
Some how very sad, that the pain will Never end, the Subject will always remain, in some other form ……
Our bodies are the screen the Universe is projected upon. Our own Self awareness is supporting the body from inside. The Body Protrudes into space and time. Conciousness is Pouring into the world from the center of the chest from the Inner Horizon, as the outer horizon(the body) has a hole through the center where the outer world(food) passes through (fueling the soul within) The body is a complex manifold embedded in an “enveloped” topological space in an orbital timeline.
Pure consciousness..sat right there 👑
Tom Campbell does a great job in combining spiritual insights with science, he also has a youtube channel
Thank you
reality to me is a river otter having fun slipping down a grassy bank into a creek. Water above, sky below. Your smile is the slipping motion, that curve, the river moves thru you.
I sometimes (often) have a sense of unreality,especially in the last two years,like I’m in the Matrix or something.Does anyone else get this feeling?
Could the Earth be moving into the 5th dimension?
Yes and some people name this move the Ascension.
We are coming into a new phase of ‘balance’ where the disfunctional patriarchy is coming to an end. This is what is happening in the world right now with all this chaos. It’s literally the patriarchy hanging on for dear life but it cannot survive the light of the new phase we’re entering… it is what has been predicted in most religions (the age of light etc) but it is still a dream be it a more pleasant one.
I used to be like that...Then I took a walk in Green Mountains forest (Vermont-USA) and I found a portal to another universe..I walked through it and it was amazing !! the fun level is five times higher than in our universe and the suffering level is quasi non-existent. And we have You Tube and Netflix too. The greatest thing is that you can eat pizza and ice cream without risking diabetis or obesity. And you can go out with anyone you like. Right now I'm having a candle-lit dinner with a Taylor Swift clone. Tommorow I intend to make love to a young version of Jodie Foster.
Read vedanta or watch videos of "vedanta" n "maya" by swami sarvapriyananda... for better understanding
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That’s what I was thinking,though it doesn’t seem like it.
I wish it would hurry up 😅
One more thing: laws of physics are relative not absolute.
What is ‘physics’? What does it actually mean?
In order for the Self to appear fro within the self.. the “Absolute Limen” of the Self beyond time has to appear
I really enjoy Rupert, but I have to say I was disappointed to hear the way he spoke of his interview with Sam Harris. For one, recommending to the audience that they not listen to it seemed a bit petty and unnecessary. I’ve listened to it multiple times, and have came away with an improved understanding each time. I consider it one of the most valuable conversations I’ve ever heard on this topic.
Rupert almost seems to imply the conversation was hostile, with Sam asking him, “where do you get your highfalutin’ ideas from?” This is not at all what happened. Rupert was making the case that consciousness is all there is and that it precedes everything else. Sam’s counterpoint involved imagining a world where human beings had gone extinct, and all that were left were chimpanzees and other animals. Sam then said that all of “this highfalutin’ talk about consciousness” would then seem irrelevant. In this statement Sam was referring to the _entire conversation_ the two of them were having- not merely Rupert’s ideas. He was simply pointing out that deep philosophical conversations about the nature of reality or consciousness would no longer exist, and yet the universe would presumably carry on as it always has. He did _not_ ask Rupert “where do you get your highfalutin’ ideas from”- this is a thorough misrepresentation, and it saddens me to hear something like this coming from someone I respect and admire as much as Rupert.
For anyone who thinks I am merely a fan of Sam Harris and defending him in a partisan way, the conversation in question can be found in Sam’s “Waking Up” app, and also, I assume, on UA-cam. So please, by all means take a listen yourself. It’s possible Rupert merely misremembered the exchange and was not deliberately misrepresenting it; but in either case the statement that he recommends that you not listen to it seems really unnecessary, and beneath the dignity of someone like Rupert. It was, in my opinion, an extremely interesting and enlightening conversation, and in fact brought me round to agreeing with much of what Rupert had to say. I highly recommend anyone interested find the conversation, and give it a listen.
Spot on ^_^ Thank you
14:26 - water, rocks... elemental things, all this kind of manifestations of consciousness. What do they "know"? What conscious experience is present in such manifestations?
Good question, I wonder the same
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