I had 2 NDE's and there was no time. Just pure awareness and everything was simultaneous NOW. Awareness could be directed anywhere at will, past, future, other realms/dimensions all at once! Multiple lives were being experienced simultaneously as if Awareness projected a bit of itself into many various "lives" at once and it felt more real and natural than "here".
@@chrizles The NDE's happened when I "died" twice and literally had doctors trying to revive me and it wasn't working. They were doing chest compression, bagging me and giving me shots to try to get my heart started and they were kind of panicking because nothing was working. I left my body, watched everything that was happening then went to the light which was the light of BEING. That's when the experience of pure awareness, no time and other lives/dimensions happened.
Love this comment, I had a similar experience on a very high dose of psychedelics thirty years ago and your statement corresponds to what I saw there. I’ve reflected on and discussed many times this fact that everything is happening simultaneously and must admit I’ve never really come up with a decent explanation as to how that all works. But I’m convinced that what you are describing is true, I just have no rational explanation of how that can be!
Oh yes! Nothing stands out from God's consciousness, so that answers my own mental dilemma when it comes to Non-duality. They often say that trees, people etc, don't actually exists. "Exist" means to stand out or be apart from something else. God doesn't exist, God simple IS, .. so if God just IS and nothing stand apart from God, then Nothing exists either, everything just IS. Amazing! Thank you Rupert!
Beautiful! What an Awesome and noteworthy thing to understand right? It’s the little distinctions and subtleties to which we are herein drawn… Rupert has a way of making even the most crystal clear yet utterly complex paradox’s into multifaceted diamonds into which we might peer in order to ascertain the True Nature of Reality❤
Nice mental-masturbation there. You have yet to realize God. In non-Dual consciousness it's easy to say God IS, since God is Consciousness-Being and that word comes easy to humans. But no, it's more accurate to say Exists. Since God actually and really Exists. EXISTS! GOD EXISTS. Simple.
@@aed6186 I don't agree with anything you have written here, nor do many others who have realised that there can only ever be a singular God, and that singular God can never stand out, i.e. "Exist" or be "External" to it's own Self.
There is the omnipresent is-ness of all That is…That pervades and surrounds all That is… That is closer then close in all That is… That knows no distance, That is without time and space… ParaBrahman
I've been watching this guy for like 10 years and trust me, he knows exactly what he's talking about. There is a moment when a man has an explanation for every question asked by another man because he knows what the mind is. This guy is a genius, give him credit.
This is not a very good pointer. This path it's not about a new believe system but about direct investigation. You don't need hight IQ as there is nothing to know but only our true nature to be recognized.
he doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about. saying "the evidence of gravity" is just an interpretation, whilst he still sits, and speaks and "is" is just wrong.
He said there are no dinosaurs, no people, etc. But he's so cocksure about the existence of god. By saying there's a god at the end of this clip, he self-refuted himself.
and the questioner is also very good, I remember him from other videos, I think Rupert mentioned that he also liked him. I mean it's easy if they are all just God vibrating within.
If you were to ask this question to Shri Ramana Maharshi, he would say... enquire who is asking these questions? Once you find out the real "Self" these questions automatically disappear... Finite mind always asks questions as it can't grasp the infinite! Since there's a concept of time and space for the finite mind, there's also a concept of evolution of things over a period of time and space. In dreams, we do not question the existence of objects as during dreams everything seems real, the entity within the dream will also find the concepts of time and evolution of things as logical and reasonable. This is the wonder of the human mind in that it can create things out of nothing....not absolutely"nothing" however. It creates things out of the ever existing Consciousness...
Quantum entanglement suggests there is no space, as two entangled particles can be light years apart and behave identically-with no apparent communication between them. Taking what Rupert said into consideration, there are no light years (i.e., distance) separating them, so the behavior is not at all surprising. The non dual path removes the "spookiness" that Einstein described.🙂
Precisely. Quantum Mechanics is showing us more and more that what we call reality simply does not exist....including us and everything we consider to be so called real.
This is close to my question - in the consciousness-only model, what are processes (eg evolution, growth, entropy...)? For example if a plant will grow at a particular rate in certain conditions. If the apparently external things that apparently undergo processes don't really exist and consciousness does not itself undergo any kind of process then what if anything does? Presumably thought and perception? By studying how plants grow given certain conditions, are we not then learning about the world but learning about our own minds? How does this work?
Reality in order to appear as a universe "limits himself" and sets some order (this is what Cosmos means). In fact those regularities ARE the same thing than the universe. The fundamental unit in the universe is not matter of energy but information thats what physics study.
Maybe its like a book containing all the pages. The book is one, but there's a sequence of pages(time). Everything exists at the same time but we with our limited minds can only see it as past, present & future.
Wow! Thank you soo much for this questions and Rupert shining light on them. I am so grateful…. ❤ Thank you thank you thank you…this words resonate here fully 🙏
absolute brilliant explanation .....esp of time & space , Rupert is definetely one of the best intellectuals we have currently on this topic , if not the best .
Sir Isaac Newton an Einstein were intellectuals, but they backed up their theories with facts that was proven by mathematics and testing NOT with unsubstantiated conjectures one only could believe as a child believes in Santa Clause !!
I remembered listening to this conversation in the same room during the retreat. feeling confused, mindblown, and yet resonated at the same time. Listening to this again after 10 months. This is indeed an incredible pointing
Love it when this gets to a point where it’s like a riddle whose code you’re trying to understand; you ask questions until you get it, and then you know so you can just answer like the guy you got it from.
Words can not express mysticism. There's so much unknown to our perceivable senses. Forget everything we know. Our arrogance and stubbornness are the barriers that stop us from the truth.
I just read the title and I’d have to say that time is only existent due to the perception of decay and change through the lens of an already evolved being able to precise such changes. So millions of years of trees growing and rock formations poping up and low level life evolution isn’t really millions of years due to nothing being able to perceive time at all. Millions of years to the planet with zero life on it is just one continuous moment of growth I’d assume 🤷♂️
It is the subatomic nature of the "dinosaur bones" that might better make Rupert's case for the questioner. That apparent structure of bones is of the quantum filed, so called. According to the principle of non locality, so called, each mysterious particle of the quantum field, including those of the bones, shares the same non-space /non-time as every other particle. Subatomic particles masquerading as matter exist in non materiality. And so the particles are not necessarily particles, but waves, frequencies, what have you, or "mind stuff" within the underlying reality that is Infinite Consciousness, or Being, or Suchness. Whatever you want to call it. Through the lens of the senses though and the human brain we behold the appearance of solid structure within the concept of time and space. My question to Rupert would be then: How is it that was all behold the same interpretations of matter. We all agree that they are dinosaur bones, when we see them? How is the trance collective? I suppose it would be that it is not so much that we are all in agreement, but that those bones are the form consciousness takes, given its play in the quantum field. But ultimately, in Truth, they are essentially Brahman. Pure Consciousness.
I don't think he really answered the question of evolution sufficiently. He started to get there when he challenged the materialist view of reality, but then he kind of spun it into a talk about the evolution of consciousness and the experience of reality from a non-dual perspective. Fascinating, but not really pertinent to the question. I suppose a question like this is hard to answer without first having a discussion about the consciousness model vs material model of reality. Most people are gonna assume the materialist model when asking a science based question. You'd have to challenge their assumption that consciousness emerges from the physical world.
It’s amazing how we are trying to hold on to our reality like it is a real thing. When you see everything as Maya, you realize maybe you started in this moment. All that info about dinosaurs is downloaded info.
i feel it's this way and then I wonder, what's the past? Dinosaurs. Agreed. Then the question is: since this moment is the one I am in always, now, how do I "change" the moment/experience? Change in quotations because it's not really about real change but a modification of perspective/belief... how is that done?
I am not sure how it works. But from what I understand 1) all is Self 2) it is not good to be alone 3) the illusion of separation exists so to negate point 2. Please comment if you have a different opinion.
Excellent question. Evolution means "Self in action". Now why is (the) Self in action? Heraclitus pondered about the same things. He said "all is flux". But I don't recall him answering why. Maybe you could assist. @@dimensionexo.
Agreed! The answer would be yes. The consciousness is present in every life form, be it a grass, bacteria or a dinosaur. The One needs to experience itself in every aspect of existence.
No worries. It’s quite simple really. 1) Truth is One - Rig Veda 2) It is not good to be alone - Genesis 3) Which is why the meaning of life is fundamentally love - Jesus.
@@suhasdj11 So not to worry if a bear rips off one of our legs when walking in a forest Or when we are diagnosed with cancer and are vomiting for days after chemo It's not real Just eternal consciousness having a laugh at our expense /suffering So that universal consciousness can experience itself
@@martycl1876 I never said there is consciousness in my sentence...Suffering is a part of life either it is physical or mental..It is the harsh reality of life....we are just part of raw energy which has nothing to do with your suffering. Energy neither feels pain nor experience time, matter, space anything... nothingness....It is your life, body and mind experience everything...we are helpless neither there is God nor there is consciousness. Everything is unreal...
@@martycl1876when someone is vomiting next to you do you feel physically sick also? Suffering is seemingly going on everywhere you only suffer when you identify with the experience. The human experience. We all do because we are equipped with such perception tools.
There is only an eternal now. What we call time is simply the observation of that change. The doctrine of Buddhism called "Anitya" says everything is impermanent, an eternal state of change. This adequately explains evolution
Weird that the quantum physicist would say “no”. I’m a physicist and we’re only now starting to look at the world from the perspective of the neuroscience - check out Carlo Rovelli’s video on the Philosophy of Time where he explains just that: time stems from the brain. Also check out Royal Society video on Quantum Fields (what are we made of?): there is no difference between this and that. It’s just one big fluctuating field that has no beginning and no end. Just seems to collapse from the perspective of the observer. So no: Dinosaurs don’t exist nor have they ever - just a big ass dream…
11:23 - 11:33 : Space is how reality appears when filtered through perception, time is how reality appears when filtered through thinking 😮 chewing on that ❤
Here Rupert, is saying that there is an evolution but it is on behalf of an apparent observer who has th efaculty of thinking (in which arises time) and perceiving ( in which arises space). So the cyanobacteria founded in acient rocks (4 billion ago) are what you are now when you see it, cause you can experience only what you perceive, think or feel. Is it correct Rupert? if so, whatelse do they tells us? thanks a lot Riccardo
A thought: Time and space allow for evolution from a singular perspective, a focussed perspective. But It's all about gathering information for the system, for it to know more possibilities and permutations of its love. Glory to source (or God). Hallelujah!
Just saw other video here in yt, good explanation about time and space by Matías de Stefano Day 90 Here and Now which help me to understand Rupert teaching here.
The point of Rupert here, the term "dinosaur" is just a name to something that we perceived as a huge reptilian animal. People may have choose different names to those creatures that we currently called as "dinosaurs".
I think that time existed in the universe, maybe under some different interpretation, prior the mentioned 5 BY. Maybe life on Earth is (or was) not the single life form in the universe, there were already other life forms, or even civilizations, prior in the universe, which were able to have an interpretation of time.
Time does not exist apart from interpretation. If apparent change (time) has been interpreted and quantified in different ways by pre-human minds, those models would be inseperable from those minds -- as our human models of change are inseperable from the human mind. The perception of time and time itself are one in the same. There is no time apart from the perception of apparent change. As Alan Watts was fond of saying, the inch has no existence apart from the ruler.
Whether materialism or Rupert’s explanation, there’s only experience as it is and then there are whatever narratives we accept in order to put a handle on it. Reality is constructed by narrative
Time is the prison warder '' the body is not free from time hence we experience birth aging death ' then the concept maybe are we the body or are we consciousness?? We are consciousness imprisoned in flesh ' perhaps the discussion would be more tangible to begin from this fact
"Perception fragments the unity of consciousness and makes it appear as ten thousand things. Perception fragments the dimensionless presence of consciousness and makes it appear as space. Thinking fragments the dimensionless presence of consciousness and makes it appear as time. In other words, space and time are not fundamental to reality. Space is how reality appears when it is filtered through perception; time is how reality appears when it is filtered through thinking. Space and time have more to do with a perceiving apparatus than with reality itself." - Rupert Spira
Dear All, quantum physics describes particular phenomenos as interaction matter and light....it doesn't mind the quality of Couscuosness. In fact the quantum physics is a particular descriprion of materialistico paradigma....
सर्वं खल्विदं ब्रह्म तज्जलानिति शान्त उपासीत(sarvam khalvidam brahman tajjalān iti shānta upāsita) -"All this (collectively) is Brahman, indeed: what evolves from That, what dissolves in That, what breathes or functions in That, should be closely and calmly studied……." - (Chandogya Upanishad III.14.1)
What about people who were born blind? They cannot dream in color, because they have never experienced color. Infact, we cannot imagine what we have never experienced. When we dream at night, even if the dream Is odd, the contents of the dream can only be filled with that of which you have already experienced. Say a chair for example. It's true, the chair does not exist so to speak. It's definition is only how we percieve it. So there needs to be something there to percieve. I believe we all share one consciousness, we are love itself. Our eyes work like windows to a 3 dimensional realm were not actually a part of. However, we can interact with the 3 dimensional world by means of piloting a 3 dimensional vessel. We "mainifest" our imagination into what we call "reality". But the reality we experience is more so a narrative written by perception.
Because evolution is an Illusion as well. The question get answered by itself. You just have to understand the pure base then those questions would have not even been asked.
I remember as a child understanding everything but only in an abstract way. In no way could I have put it into words or even understood my understanding in a way that makes sense now after decades of 'education'😶
A complex question can only be answered with a complex answer. If you answer it simply and say it is all consciousness to the person asking it, it will be a non-answer. Like saying what is gravity and just writing down an equation for a person who doesn't understand math.
"In the beginning (time) God created the heavens (space) and the Earth (matter)." ~ Genesis 1:1 Why are we still contemplating what has been known for thousands of years? Our education system has failed.
This is usually where Rupert loses me. I love his talks usually. But, I see little need for or value to all this pataphysics. No word or model can do justice to the Mystery. The Mystery is, complete, infinite, immutable, unperturbed🙏
Brahman is beyond mind and speech, beyond concentration and meditation, beyond the knower, the known and knowledge, beyond even the conception of the real and unreal. In short, It is beyond all relativity.
it s very easy to think "everything is illusion". then illusion is illusion and you see...- our reality is real. words game make paradoxes and sometimes makes us stupid
“I’m trying to understand dinosaur bones” is what I’m gonna say from now on whenever someone doesn’t answer my question. Time is a concept, a measurement of change. It is no more real than a centimeter, a measurement of length. The perception of change happens in the now, and concepts are created to help us articulate that change. Dinosaurs and their bones are concepts, or “extrapolations” to use Rupert’s words.
The reality of dinosaurs bones is the consciousness in which only and only they appears. No consciousness no bones. No consciousness no existence. Things exists only because we are conscious of them
in Quantum Physics observer (consciousness) collapse the wave function of particles and this is in line with non- duality as particles are just waves in consciousness and it appear to us as particles only when we observe them and both theories share the vagueness of the nature of reality.
Paradoxically, in an absence of time/space there would be no "evolution." The question of "evolution" would not arise. An experience of time/space is wholly dependent upon memory. No memory, no time. Unity Consciousness wherein there is no other, expresses and sustains all matter/Maya. In an absence of Consciousness, matter could not precipitate. All matter is simultaneously of and within the Singularity of Unity Consciousness, which is bound by neither time nor space. Duality is for the choosing -- either or, this or that -- Light over Darkness -- Truth over falsehood -- Goodness over evil. Life in Duality, is a pro-active, transient endeavor.
But to say these things don't exist is denying our experience. In a previous video you said that things do exist but borrow their existence from the ultimate being. Things do exist but not how our brain perceives them. Or have I misinterpreted the whole thing? I'm struggling to link these understandings.
How can consciousness, which is dimensionless, have activity? I guess we must not get stuck on ideas of activity requiring time and space, requiring the dimensions we perceive. Is that it?
Unfortunately, we have to use words and all kinds of analogies to describe things. Words relate to shapes and forms and thus turn out to be pointless in explaining the nature of reality.
@@dameerdj5403 Yes one of my favourites is the dream analogy. We experience the phenomena of the dream, it exists, we have to live it out, yet the only thing the actually is real is the dreaming mind. The dreaming mind is not manifest in the dream, it is not a phenomenon in the dream like the other things, yet it is the only thing that is real. Moreover, it is what we actually are. So I suppose the analogy is that in so called waking life, our ultimate reality is that which is aware of the phenomenal world, including our internal phenomena. That which exists is not real and that which is real does not exist. So the second world war in which my grandfather died existed like a particularly elaborate kind of dreamed scenario but it was/is really an appearance conjured up by our limited phenomenal mind in response to the so called activity of consciousness. As you say these analogies do break down. I wonder if Rupert's indulgence in these analogies and metaphysical discussions is just a concession to the finite mind, to try to pacify it by throwing it meat as it were. In the end maybe we have to just calm down and stop getting wound up by our thoughts and feelings. If vwe pursue the metaphysics, we just encounter the age old ontological issues around the concept of God, eg why does anything exist and why does consciousness dream all this up and if it has dreamed this up, why does it allow suffering - either it has no control, or it is deliberately causing suffering. I suspect that all this only really starts to make sense if you have some kind of awakening experience. Like with the dream, we can't escape this seeming exisrence inside this body. It seems we might be able to develop a realisation that we are not ultimately this body/mind, but we will still get toothache and arthritis and get stuck in traffic etc.
Yes, of course consciousness evolves! 💖🙏🏽 we are consciousness decended and extended into density by a vision of ourselves in this time, space, reality, dimension and timeline we have chosen to experience in this Now moment by powers emotional magnetism. We have attracted into coalescence through the intensity of our emotion. Through this manifesting power, as a singular perspective of all of reality (our ego). So as such, we are God (consciousness) evolving through the infinite experiences of sentience (and beyond) as each ego chooses, lives, loves or rejects love…dealing with the impacts of those choices and discovering anew. Yes, we have a mind, but ultimately it is the vehicle for consciousness through our ego for the purpose of evolution, self-healing, a coming back to love (self-love) and personal sovereignty through a rediscovered and aligned divine vision. 🤍🙏🏽🕊️
Okay this might sound silly but as I am watching this video with a pair of my glasses on and while the sun is shining and the trees are dancing, I had the reflections blurring my vision to see what’s going on the screen. So I took a screenshot hoping to see Rupert, the trees, me. And guess the obvious? It’s just Rupert in a certain position. I was kinda hoping to see me, the trees, and Rupert. Where was I seeing that reflection of my face and trees dancing? I mean I am certain I saw it on the screen but when I tried to capture it, it wasn’t there! Try it, it’s fun!
Hola ¡ 0:16 en teoria no i sí al mateix temps, doncs la conciencia que está aquí igual a aquesta Vida sí hi ha una re-evolució a més consciencia social global a partir de la de cadascú. 5:13 al que en diem temps es el canvi continu cap el lloc de partida. 10:59 la unitat es presenta aquí diversa - tot és únic divers irrepetible -
Consciousness does evolve in my estimation which is worth diddly squat, just me trying to figure. Mind and consciousness? Haven't got there yet to comprehend.
Natasha: It depends on how you define consciousness according to the given modality. According to nondudlity, cons iousness is the ever present thst has no beginning and end out of which every apparent reality arises and dissolves .
Rupert likes to say infinite awareness is the ground. But thing is that awareness would see everything at the same time. How could there ever be individual perspectives? You might talk of obfuscation that occurs where something happens that makes it limited to one perspective. But how could that be because the awareness that sees that perspective is the same awareness that also sees all the others. Awareness could never be limited in its seeing by anything that could possible happen in awareness. Plus the infinite fact cannot be named because that would give it a definite nature and so limit it’s possibility. It might not be giving it objective qualities to call it awareness but it’s giving it something.
The most important conclusion follows from his theory: consciousness preceded life. “Conventional science and philosophy suggests that consciousness emerged at some point in evolution, perhaps as recently as the advent of the brain and nervous system. But Eastern spiritual traditions, panpsychism, and Roger Penrose’s theory of objective reduction suggest that consciousness preceded life,” writes Hameroff. And these traditions turned out to be right (again, how did the ancients know? ). Hameroff describes in detail the early universe, filled with the light of the Big Bang - the universe was then a megamind. But then the substance became cloudy, and a period of unconsciousness set in. When it ended, complex molecules began to appear. With their help, the Universe began to “think” more clearly and precisely. Thus, the entire universe is conscious because consciousness follows directly from quantum mechanics and relativity. Man is “more conscious” than stone only because the neurons of the brain are a more convenient environment for quantum transition than the crystalline structure of stone or wood fibers, but man is definitely not the only, and certainly not the first thinking being. Just by thinking something, we turn on (not “we”, it turns itself on) a quantum transition that connects us to any point in the Universe and to any complex mind that exists anywhere. We are the Universe, and the Universe is us. Imagination - Process of Pure Creation The process of creation starts with thought - an idea, conception, visualization. Everything you see was once someone's idea. Nothing exists in your world that did not first exist as pure thought. This is true of the universe as well. Thought is the first level of creation. Next comes the word. Everything you say is a thought expressed. It is creative and sends forth creative energy into the universe. Words are more dynamic (thus, some might say more creative) than thought, because words are a different level of vibration from thought. They disrupt (change, alter, affect) the universe with greater impact. Words are the second level of creation. Next comes action. Actions are words moving. Words are thoughts expressed. Thoughts are ideas formed. Ideas are energies come together. Energies are forces released. Forces are elements existent. Elements are particles of God, portions of ALL, the stuff of everything. The beginning is God. The end is action. Action is God creating - or God experienced. “The idea of the atom being formed of electrons and protons which go whirling round each other like a miniature sun and planets is an invention of the imagination, and has no relation to the real nature of matter. “Virtually all progress has been achieved by physicists, discoverers and inventors; in short, devotees of the science which Newton and his disciples have been and are propounding. “Personally, it is only efforts in this direction which have claimed my energies. Similar remarks might be made with respect to other modern developments of thought. Take, for example, the electron theory. Perhaps no other has given rise to so many erroneous ideas and chimerical hopes. Everybody speaks of electrons as something entirely definite and real. Still, the fact is that nobody has isolated it and nobody has measured its charge. Nor does anybody know what it really is. “In order to explain the observed phenomena, atomic structures have been imagined, none of which can possibly exist." -Nikola Tesla “Great Scientific Discovery Impends.“ The Sunday Star, Washington D.C., May 17, 1931. CREATION AND SACRED GEOMETRY How is it that we are Conscious Spiritual Beings living in a physical world, in a physical body and don't remember Who We Are or how we got here? It has to do with the whole process of Creation and Sacred Geometry. Spirit is the essence of consciousness, the energy of the Universe that creates all things. Each one of us is a part of that Spirit Energy - a Divine Entity. So the Spirit is the Higher Self, the Eternal Being that lives within us. Form is the physical world: body, mind, personality. We as spiritual beings created the physical world as a place to learn. We're here to learn how to master the process of creation - to learn how to consciously channel the creative energy of spirit into physical form. A Source Deep Within As we explore the process of creating our own reality, we begin to realize that the creative power we are feeling is coming from some source other than our personality/ego selves. It seems to come from some place deep within ourselves. We become interested in discovering what this creative force is and how it works. We realize that "it" (our higher self) knows more than "I" (our personality self). We find out what the inner guidance is telling us and follow it. Enlightenment When we begin to open up to a spiritual path, we may go through many different exoeriences and processes in our search, but eventually we come back to an experience of our true selves, the god-like nature or universal mind that is within us all. Through this experience we are eventually restored to our full spiritual power. The emptiness inside us, the fear of loss, is filled up from within and spiritual healing has restored us to our true self. This is the process known as enlightenment. To the best of our knowledge, we may assume that our universe existed way before we (as humans) appeared. Quantum physics suggests that for a particle to stabilize and acquire a fixed position within the space-time reality of our world, it needs to be observed. Arguably, the only power that can make observations is consciousness. Since not we humans, what observed the world that we found? An attractive answer would be that we consciousness observed it before we became humans. A slight sparkle of consciousness may have caused the Big Bang and subsequent orchestration of this universe. Some sort of consciousness may have imagined that a such-and-such world can be derived out of possibility waves and set to create it. Though our imagination is seemingly unrestrictedly opulent, we still have hard time to imagine how galaxies or birds came to exist without something having priorly imagined them. We can clearly understand how any of our creations was created but we feel utterly powerless to comprehend how anything that preceded us was created. That may be so because we mistakenly search for a different creator. What if we created everything? Remember, not we as humans but we as imaginative consciousness. Consciousness, imagination, creativity must have pervaded the universe all along. It only lacked technical solutions. Whereas by setting a simple set of parameters such as nuclear, electromagnetic, and gravitational forces it is a straightforward process to create simple things such as atoms, stars, and all sorts of condensed, orbiting balls… it required vast amounts of time and experimentation filtered by natural selection to create things that can create things, such as ribosomes, hands, and automated factories. The entire history of the universe seems like an arduous strife to organize itself geometrically; a valiant endeavor to order chaos directed by imaginative consciousness. And this process is only at the beginning. What is the universe set to make out of itself? A universal brain? A God? Does it know? Is the outcome of this universal evolution deterministically predefined? Or does it also create the process? Will it eventually dissolve and perish before entropy within its own boundaries? Or will it escape space-time to outer dimensions and keep evolving indefinitely? What exactly consciousness is and why it does what it does is another question. For now we may only speculate that consciousness is imagination acting as a link between our observable universe and the underlying quantum field: imagination extracting reality out of possibilities.
Hey. I’m a bit stuck understanding who I really am. With the following thought experiment I can cancel out already a bunch of things I am not: Let’s say we would copy someone’s atoms exactly to teleport him/her. Would that copied version be you? Intuitively and maybe logically, the answer is no. So we can conclude that our DNA (which was exactly copied) does not define us. Neither do our memories. ‘I am not him, because I am not watching through his eyes!’ Also, If we would ask that person if he was still the same one, he would say yes, because that’s what all his/her memories tell her. Also, the person would act exactly like the ‘original’ would. There would be no way to prove or to be sure it is the same observer. So that made me think, what if this is actually always the case? We just think I am that, because our memories are telling that we are that. But than, who is observing? Or is every fraction someone ‘else’ observing? And why does it feel smooth and are all those ‘different’ observers each fraction of a second, or maybe always the same observer, always observing through the same body system? It really feels like there is a constant, why through this eyes? Oh god, I don’t even know what to think anymore haha, I’m really thinking weird stuff. Than I thought, maybe if we could cut out the concept of time, it would make more sense? Could you help me a bit please? And btw, sorry, I’m a bit stoned so forgive me if I wrote weird things.
I listen occasionally to a teacher called Shunyamurti who is quite good at grounding all this. He has a little video on UA-cam called Once Upon a Timeless which is amusing as well as pedagogical.
I am yet to understand the idea that time does not exist. Rupert suggests that it cannot exist if it cannot be experienced. I agree that I cannot experience the past but I did and I have a memory of it, my body has changed. Time exists in every moment you experience and is then consigned to a memory, no? Just because you cannot experience it now does not mean that it did not happen and therefore had existence. You can only experience now but if there was no time my heart would not beat.
I had 2 NDE's and there was no time. Just pure awareness and everything was simultaneous NOW. Awareness could be directed anywhere at will, past, future, other realms/dimensions all at once! Multiple lives were being experienced simultaneously as if Awareness projected a bit of itself into many various "lives" at once and it felt more real and natural than "here".
Thank you for sharing
where can i get some of these NDE's you speak of
@@chrizles The NDE's happened when I "died" twice and literally had doctors trying to revive me and it wasn't working. They were doing chest compression, bagging me and giving me shots to try to get my heart started and they were kind of panicking because nothing was working. I left my body, watched everything that was happening then went to the light which was the light of BEING. That's when the experience of pure awareness, no time and other lives/dimensions happened.
@@annemurphy8074 If you would like to share your story, contact Jeff Mara podcast on UA-cam, he interviews NDEers!
Love this comment, I had a similar experience on a very high dose of psychedelics thirty years ago and your statement corresponds to what I saw there. I’ve reflected on and discussed many times this fact that everything is happening simultaneously and must admit I’ve never really come up with a decent explanation as to how that all works. But I’m convinced that what you are describing is true, I just have no rational explanation of how that can be!
Oh yes! Nothing stands out from God's consciousness, so that answers my own mental dilemma when it comes to Non-duality. They often say that trees, people etc, don't actually exists. "Exist" means to stand out or be apart from something else. God doesn't exist, God simple IS, .. so if God just IS and nothing stand apart from God, then Nothing exists either, everything just IS. Amazing! Thank you Rupert!
Exactly. It is no thing appearing as something. It is an ineffable paradox beyond human comprehension.
Beautiful! What an Awesome and noteworthy thing to understand right? It’s the little distinctions and subtleties to which we are herein drawn… Rupert has a way of making even the most crystal clear yet utterly complex paradox’s into multifaceted diamonds into which we might peer in order to ascertain the True Nature of Reality❤
Nice mental-masturbation there. You have yet to realize God. In non-Dual consciousness it's easy to say God IS, since God is Consciousness-Being and that word comes easy to humans. But no, it's more accurate to say Exists. Since God actually and really Exists. EXISTS! GOD EXISTS. Simple.
@@aed6186 I don't agree with anything you have written here, nor do many others who have realised that there can only ever be a singular God, and that singular God can never stand out, i.e. "Exist" or be "External" to it's own Self.
@@RobbeyT1 You either exist or not.
Rupert guruji....you brought me to tears in a public space listening to this....let the infinity consciousness light every of the 7-8 billion lives
"Nothing exists; everything appears to exist." (Nisargadatta Maharaj)
and does that which sees (percieves) everything appearing to be, exist?
There is the omnipresent is-ness of all That is…That pervades and surrounds all That is… That is closer then close in all That is… That knows no distance, That is without time and space… ParaBrahman
ॐ ❤
I wonder if that would work as a defense for a pickpocket who stole your paycheck! "Sorry Judge his money only appeared to EXIST!!"
@@MykolasGilbert that's the problem with materialistic world
I've been watching this guy for like 10 years and trust me, he knows exactly what he's talking about. There is a moment when a man has an explanation for every question asked by another man because he knows what the mind is. This guy is a genius, give him credit.
This is not a very good pointer. This path it's not about a new believe system but about direct investigation. You don't need hight IQ as there is nothing to know but only our true nature to be recognized.
@@nocosa it does seem that way, maybe he is just accommodating the enquiring minds of his audience.
he doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about. saying "the evidence of gravity" is just an interpretation, whilst he still sits, and speaks and "is" is just wrong.
He said there are no dinosaurs, no people, etc. But he's so cocksure about the existence of god. By saying there's a god at the end of this clip, he self-refuted himself.
and the questioner is also very good, I remember him from other videos, I think Rupert mentioned that he also liked him. I mean it's easy if they are all just God vibrating within.
If you were to ask this question to Shri Ramana Maharshi, he would say... enquire who is asking these questions? Once you find out the real "Self" these questions automatically disappear...
Finite mind always asks questions as it can't grasp the infinite! Since there's a concept of time and space for the finite mind, there's also a concept of evolution of things over a period of time and space.
In dreams, we do not question the existence of objects as during dreams everything seems real, the entity within the dream will also find the concepts of time and evolution of things as logical and reasonable.
This is the wonder of the human mind in that it can create things out of nothing....not absolutely"nothing" however. It creates things out of the ever existing Consciousness...
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Some people you can't take the direct route, they need to be lured in with subtlety.
What a beautiful explanation! Thank you Rupert. 🔥🔥
There is no time at a quantum level so it's kind of odd that the physicist would say that Rupert's view is inconsistent with his.
Quantum entanglement suggests there is no space, as two entangled particles can be light years apart and behave identically-with no apparent communication between them. Taking what Rupert said into consideration, there are no light years (i.e., distance) separating them, so the behavior is not at all surprising. The non dual path removes the "spookiness" that Einstein described.🙂
I find many physicists are confused when it comes to philosophy of science
Keep in mind that most quantum physicists don't know how to interpret the experiments.
Precisely. Quantum Mechanics is showing us more and more that what we call reality simply does not exist....including us and everything we consider to be so called real.
@@pandawandas they / we were trained to “think” about a world outside of us. Too arrogant to look inside and ask “who is doing the investigating?”
This is close to my question - in the consciousness-only model, what are processes (eg evolution, growth, entropy...)? For example if a plant will grow at a particular rate in certain conditions. If the apparently external things that apparently undergo processes don't really exist and consciousness does not itself undergo any kind of process then what if anything does? Presumably thought and perception? By studying how plants grow given certain conditions, are we not then learning about the world but learning about our own minds? How does this work?
Reality in order to appear as a universe "limits himself" and sets some order (this is what Cosmos means). In fact those regularities ARE the same thing than the universe. The fundamental unit in the universe is not matter of energy but information thats what physics study.
God created everything ~ this is The Truth. Everything else is noise.
Do as the religious people; be simple ;)
Maybe its like a book containing all the pages. The book is one, but there's a sequence of pages(time). Everything exists at the same time but we with our limited minds can only see it as past, present & future.
Everything is God. Yes. You could say that. It would not be incorrect.
Wow! Thank you soo much for this questions and Rupert shining light on them. I am so grateful…. ❤ Thank you thank you thank you…this words resonate here fully 🙏
As a simple human all of this is really hard to compute
absolute brilliant explanation .....esp of time & space , Rupert is definetely one of the best intellectuals we have currently on this topic , if not the best .
Wouldn't call him an intellectual really. Except for the fact he makes money telling people how they should view the world
Sir Isaac Newton an Einstein were intellectuals, but they backed up their theories with facts that was proven by mathematics and testing NOT with unsubstantiated conjectures one only could believe as a child believes in Santa Clause !!
@@MykolasGilbert all they got are just opinions
@@YourBestNeighbor7 So does RS
@@Starnberg07 so are you and me
I remembered listening to this conversation in the same room during the retreat. feeling confused, mindblown, and yet resonated at the same time.
Listening to this again after 10 months. This is indeed an incredible pointing
It's nice to hear that there's someone who sees life as I do. He perfectly reiterated my intuition.
Institutions contain more than one madman. All the Nazis felt the same way too, remember!
12:27 holly banana... this is mind opening. crazy, so dam crazy :) awesome, vibrating wtihin its self, wow.
Love it when this gets to a point where it’s like a riddle whose code you’re trying to understand; you ask questions until you get it, and then you know so you can just answer like the guy you got it from.
Nice sidestep on the 'dinosaur' question 😆
Whatever this dream/experience is, it is certainly on a stationary level plane.
Words can not express mysticism. There's so much unknown to our perceivable senses. Forget everything we know. Our arrogance and stubbornness are the barriers that stop us from the truth.
What a beautiful video!
Rupert is the most spiritual Being, that resonates within me ❤❤❤❤❤
In the immortal words of Sumo, "or maybe even less".
I just read the title and I’d have to say that time is only existent due to the perception of decay and change through the lens of an already evolved being able to precise such changes. So millions of years of trees growing and rock formations poping up and low level life evolution isn’t really millions of years due to nothing being able to perceive time at all. Millions of years to the planet with zero life on it is just one continuous moment of growth I’d assume 🤷♂️
Waves are many.
Ocean is One.
Finally someone who gets it. I applaud you Sir. @@FdR88
It is the subatomic nature of the "dinosaur bones" that might better make Rupert's case for the questioner. That apparent structure of bones is of the quantum filed, so called. According to the principle of non locality, so called, each mysterious particle of the quantum field, including those of the bones, shares the same non-space /non-time as every other particle. Subatomic particles masquerading as matter exist in non materiality. And so the particles are not necessarily particles, but waves, frequencies, what have you, or "mind stuff" within the underlying reality that is Infinite Consciousness, or Being, or Suchness. Whatever you want to call it. Through the lens of the senses though and the human brain we behold the appearance of solid structure within the concept of time and space.
My question to Rupert would be then: How is it that was all behold the same interpretations of matter. We all agree that they are dinosaur bones, when we see them? How is the trance collective?
I suppose it would be that it is not so much that we are all in agreement, but that those bones are the form consciousness takes, given its play in the quantum field. But ultimately, in Truth, they are essentially Brahman. Pure Consciousness.
Your question is exactly describing the my experience.
Maybe the pure consciousness here should have a definition. Maybe, consciousness in deep meditation, no activity, only observing? 😊
Aham Brahmansi.
Wow Rupert you're definitely cooking on gas, awesome posting. 👏👏👏
I don't think he really answered the question of evolution sufficiently. He started to get there when he challenged the materialist view of reality, but then he kind of spun it into a talk about the evolution of consciousness and the experience of reality from a non-dual perspective. Fascinating, but not really pertinent to the question. I suppose a question like this is hard to answer without first having a discussion about the consciousness model vs material model of reality. Most people are gonna assume the materialist model when asking a science based question. You'd have to challenge their assumption that consciousness emerges from the physical world.
"Life as we know it, is a narrative written by perception"
It’s amazing how we are trying to hold on to our reality like it is a real thing. When you see everything as Maya, you realize maybe you started in this moment. All that info about dinosaurs is downloaded info.
i feel it's this way and then I wonder, what's the past? Dinosaurs. Agreed. Then the question is: since this moment is the one I am in always, now, how do I "change" the moment/experience? Change in quotations because it's not really about real change but a modification of perspective/belief... how is that done?
I am not sure how it works. But from what I understand 1) all is Self 2) it is not good to be alone 3) the illusion of separation exists so to negate point 2. Please comment if you have a different opinion.
Is it possible for "consciousness"to "evolve"from a more primitive state ?
Excellent question. Evolution means "Self in action". Now why is (the) Self in action? Heraclitus pondered about the same things. He said "all is flux". But I don't recall him answering why. Maybe you could assist. @@dimensionexo.
@@dimensionexo.If everything happens within consciousness, I wouldn't see how.
When you look out there, you only see on the screen of your eyes, there is no distance. It appears to be within
What I wish had been asked and answered here is:
Was conciousness experiencing itself in localised, finate minds within the dinosaurs?
Agreed! The answer would be yes. The consciousness is present in every life form, be it a grass, bacteria or a dinosaur. The One needs to experience itself in every aspect of existence.
@@dameerdj5403 Hardly fair though on the finite minds is it, especially if they live and die without ever realising? Seems cruel does it not?
The one has no need to do anything, it has no agency.
@@paulhowarth9065 The world is cruel, nonetheless. We can't get round that.
Non-Dual consciousness is so cheap. Sovereign and Religious God-Consciousness is the Highest Truth.
Perfect, brilliant and true. I am with you 💖🙏
I came looking for answers and direction but found neither. Thank you for the explanations, and now I return to the woods to contemplate once more.
No worries. It’s quite simple really. 1) Truth is One - Rig Veda 2) It is not good to be alone - Genesis 3) Which is why the meaning of life is fundamentally love - Jesus.
If time doesn't exist, that would explain why buses are always late, but I wouldn't know because there's no time to prove it.
There is no time, space and matter in dreams... we are just dream characters in this prolonged wakefulness dream... in reality there is no real me..
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So not to worry if a bear rips off one of our legs when walking in a forest
Or when we are diagnosed with cancer and are vomiting for days after chemo
It's not real
Just eternal consciousness having a laugh at our expense /suffering
So that universal consciousness can experience itself
@@martycl1876 I never said there is consciousness in my sentence...Suffering is a part of life either it is physical or mental..It is the harsh reality of life....we are just part of raw energy which has nothing to do with your suffering. Energy neither feels pain nor experience time, matter, space anything... nothingness....It is your life, body and mind experience everything...we are helpless neither there is God nor there is consciousness. Everything is unreal...
@@martycl1876when someone is vomiting next to you do you feel physically sick also? Suffering is seemingly going on everywhere you only suffer when you identify with the experience. The human experience. We all do because we are equipped with such perception tools.
*NOW* is all there is, it's the window in which all of life unfolds
Evolution occurs and happens in *NOW*
*Everything* infact happens in NOW
Love it. Thanks for sharing!
Yep. Materialism was born out of the mind of separation.
I adore rupert and think his teachings are accurate but sometimes it feels like he shuts down questions. This is one example
True
He didn't "shut it down." he just gave an answer you didn't like.
Wish they would say what seminar the clips are from. Easier to find the original video if people want to get the whole seminar from the website.
There is only an eternal now. What we call time is simply the observation of that change. The doctrine of Buddhism called "Anitya" says everything is impermanent, an eternal state of change. This adequately explains evolution
Weird that the quantum physicist would say “no”. I’m a physicist and we’re only now starting to look at the world from the perspective of the neuroscience - check out Carlo Rovelli’s video on the Philosophy of Time where he explains just that: time stems from the brain. Also check out Royal Society video on Quantum Fields (what are we made of?): there is no difference between this and that. It’s just one big fluctuating field that has no beginning and no end. Just seems to collapse from the perspective of the observer. So no: Dinosaurs don’t exist nor have they ever - just a big ass dream…
11:23 - 11:33 : Space is how reality appears when filtered through perception, time is how reality appears when filtered through thinking 😮 chewing on that ❤
Here Rupert, is saying that there is an evolution but it is on behalf of an apparent observer who has th efaculty of thinking (in which arises time) and perceiving ( in which arises space). So the cyanobacteria founded in acient rocks (4 billion ago) are what you are now when you see it, cause you can experience only what you perceive, think or feel. Is it correct Rupert?
if so, whatelse do they tells us? thanks a lot Riccardo
super functional explanation... he's got it all sorted...
A thought: Time and space allow for evolution from a singular perspective, a focussed perspective. But It's all about gathering information for the system, for it to know more possibilities and permutations of its love. Glory to source (or God). Hallelujah!
Lovely exposition on space and time 🎉❤
Just saw other video here in yt, good explanation about time and space by Matías de Stefano Day 90 Here and Now which help me to understand Rupert teaching here.
Things happen. Time doesn't need to exist for processes to unfold. Time is just a way we measure the happenings of things in sequential linear order.
The word unfold.implies time. You killed your own argument.
Why make public statements at all?
@@markupton1417 don't think you got his point " Time is just a way we measure the happening of things" no need to get personal for that.
The point of Rupert here, the term "dinosaur" is just a name to something that we perceived as a huge reptilian animal. People may have choose different names to those creatures that we currently called as "dinosaurs".
The term dinosaur doesn't even matter, it's just that, a name. But that doesn't mean they didn't exist or weren't conscious when they were alive.
Muchísimas gracias!!!!❤🙏🤗
Brilliant! ⭐️🙏
Beautiful 🙏🙂
By perceiving ourselves as a fragment, compells us to observe everything else as fragments in accordance to the way we define our own fragmented self.
Prior to the senses, there was no prior.. brilliant. ❤ yes, even if photons pre existed a mind there could have been no light. 🎉
I think that time existed in the universe, maybe under some different interpretation, prior the mentioned 5 BY. Maybe life on Earth is (or was) not the single life form in the universe, there were already other life forms, or even civilizations, prior in the universe, which were able to have an interpretation of time.
Time does not exist apart from interpretation. If apparent change (time) has been interpreted and quantified in different ways by pre-human minds, those models would be inseperable from those minds -- as our human models of change are inseperable from the human mind. The perception of time and time itself are one in the same. There is no time apart from the perception of apparent change. As Alan Watts was fond of saying, the inch has no existence apart from the ruler.
Time is relative although one.
Exactly. You understand. Blessing of overwhelming love to you my fellow Self.@@FdR88
A tricky subject well explained.
Awareness is ever present NOW.everything appears in NOW... nothing else... no past.. no future.. All else is just perception in NOW🙏
Could we say that the awareness of consciousness evolves?
Consciousness evolves but awareness is always pure knowing.
Both are good statements. PS: Evolution = Love in Action.
@sven888 funny you should say that💗 currently learning quantum touch love energy healing. Grande statement and I agree💕
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Whether materialism or Rupert’s explanation, there’s only experience as it is and then there are whatever narratives we accept in order to put a handle on it. Reality is constructed by narrative
Time is the prison warder '' the body is not free from time hence we experience birth aging death ' then the concept maybe are we the body or are we consciousness?? We are consciousness imprisoned in flesh ' perhaps the discussion would be more tangible to begin from this fact
"Perception fragments the unity of consciousness and makes it appear as ten thousand things. Perception fragments the dimensionless presence of consciousness and makes it appear as space. Thinking fragments the dimensionless presence of consciousness and makes it appear as time. In other words, space and time are not fundamental to reality. Space is how reality appears when it is filtered through perception; time is how reality appears when it is filtered through thinking. Space and time have more to do with a perceiving apparatus than with reality itself."
- Rupert Spira
All appearences of objects are here, contained here, there is no space between them, so no time exists.
Dear All, quantum physics describes particular phenomenos as interaction matter and light....it doesn't mind the quality of Couscuosness. In fact the quantum physics is a particular descriprion of materialistico paradigma....
सर्वं खल्विदं ब्रह्म तज्जलानिति शान्त उपासीत(sarvam khalvidam brahman tajjalān iti shānta upāsita) -"All this (collectively) is Brahman, indeed: what evolves from That, what dissolves in That, what breathes or functions in That, should be closely and calmly studied……." - (Chandogya Upanishad III.14.1)
What about people who were born blind? They cannot dream in color, because they have never experienced color. Infact, we cannot imagine what we have never experienced. When we dream at night, even if the dream Is odd, the contents of the dream can only be filled with that of which you have already experienced. Say a chair for example. It's true, the chair does not exist so to speak. It's definition is only how we percieve it. So there needs to be something there to percieve. I believe we all share one consciousness, we are love itself. Our eyes work like windows to a 3 dimensional realm were not actually a part of. However, we can interact with the 3 dimensional world by means of piloting a 3 dimensional vessel. We "mainifest" our imagination into what we call "reality". But the reality we experience is more so a narrative written by perception.
Wow!! That was a really powerful video!!ॐ ❤
Because evolution is an Illusion as well.
The question get answered by itself. You just have to understand the pure base then those questions would have not even been asked.
I remember as a child understanding everything but only in an abstract way. In no way could I have put it into words or even understood my understanding in a way that makes sense now after decades of 'education'😶
well you seem to put it into words perfectly now
Brain is desperately uncomfortable with anything abstract. It makes it feel unemployed 😅
A complex question can only be answered with a complex answer. If you answer it simply and say it is all consciousness to the person asking it, it will be a non-answer. Like saying what is gravity and just writing down an equation for a person who doesn't understand math.
LFM: You are wrong
"In the beginning (time) God created the heavens (space) and the Earth (matter)." ~ Genesis 1:1
Why are we still contemplating what has been known for thousands of years?
Our education system has failed.
This is usually where Rupert loses me. I love his talks usually. But, I see little need for or value to all this pataphysics. No word or model can do justice to the Mystery. The Mystery is, complete, infinite, immutable, unperturbed🙏
Love the word: "pataphysics"😜
U already have a model there…in your words
mind opening comment, thank you Michel :)
@@drey541 wow an other mind opening comment of a comment, thank you too :)
Brahman is beyond mind and speech, beyond concentration and meditation, beyond the knower, the known and knowledge, beyond even the conception of the real and unreal. In short, It is beyond all relativity.
even that is a concept not reality
it s very easy to think "everything is illusion". then illusion is illusion and you see...- our reality is real. words game make paradoxes and sometimes makes us stupid
“I’m trying to understand dinosaur bones” is what I’m gonna say from now on whenever someone doesn’t answer my question.
Time is a concept, a measurement of change. It is no more real than a centimeter, a measurement of length. The perception of change happens in the now, and concepts are created to help us articulate that change. Dinosaurs and their bones are concepts, or “extrapolations” to use Rupert’s words.
The reality of dinosaurs bones is the consciousness in which only and only they appears. No consciousness no bones. No consciousness no existence. Things exists only because we are conscious of them
That was bloody hilarious when he said it. 😄
@@andrejatodorovic4094 equally great was in another clip when someone said to Rupert, “but…. You just looked at your watch!”
Am I right in understanding that we all have the same operation system downloaded into our subconscious? Complete with shared natural history?
🙏thank you very much 🙏
in Quantum Physics observer (consciousness) collapse the wave function of particles and this is in line with non- duality as particles are just waves in consciousness and it appear to us as particles only when we observe them and both theories share the vagueness of the nature of reality.
Paradoxically, in an absence of time/space there would be no "evolution." The question of "evolution" would not arise. An experience of time/space is wholly dependent upon memory. No memory, no time. Unity Consciousness wherein there is no other, expresses and sustains all matter/Maya. In an absence of Consciousness, matter could not precipitate. All matter is simultaneously of and within the Singularity of Unity Consciousness, which is bound by neither time nor space. Duality is for the choosing -- either or, this or that -- Light over Darkness -- Truth over falsehood -- Goodness over evil. Life in Duality, is a pro-active, transient endeavor.
But to say these things don't exist is denying our experience. In a previous video you said that things do exist but borrow their existence from the ultimate being. Things do exist but not how our brain perceives them. Or have I misinterpreted the whole thing?
I'm struggling to link these understandings.
How can consciousness, which is dimensionless, have activity? I guess we must not get stuck on ideas of activity requiring time and space, requiring the dimensions we perceive. Is that it?
You just discovered what Maya is
How can no thing appear as something? That is a paradox that the human mind cannot understand, and yet it is still the truth.
Just like there an ego creating a person, but no one is really there.
Unfortunately, we have to use words and all kinds of analogies to describe things. Words relate to shapes and forms and thus turn out to be pointless in explaining the nature of reality.
@@dameerdj5403 Yes one of my favourites is the dream analogy. We experience the phenomena of the dream, it exists, we have to live it out, yet the only thing the actually is real is the dreaming mind. The dreaming mind is not manifest in the dream, it is not a phenomenon in the dream like the other things, yet it is the only thing that is real. Moreover, it is what we actually are. So I suppose the analogy is that in so called waking life, our ultimate reality is that which is aware of the phenomenal world, including our internal phenomena. That which exists is not real and that which is real does not exist. So the second world war in which my grandfather died existed like a particularly elaborate kind of dreamed scenario but it was/is really an appearance conjured up by our limited phenomenal mind in response to the so called activity of consciousness.
As you say these analogies do break down. I wonder if Rupert's indulgence in these analogies and metaphysical discussions is just a concession to the finite mind, to try to pacify it by throwing it meat as it were. In the end maybe we have to just calm down and stop getting wound up by our thoughts and feelings. If vwe pursue the metaphysics, we just encounter the age old ontological issues around the concept of God, eg why does anything exist and why does consciousness dream all this up and if it has dreamed this up, why does it allow suffering - either it has no control, or it is deliberately causing suffering.
I suspect that all this only really starts to make sense if you have some kind of awakening experience.
Like with the dream, we can't escape this seeming exisrence inside this body. It seems we might be able to develop a realisation that we are not ultimately this body/mind, but we will still get toothache and arthritis and get stuck in traffic etc.
Yes, of course consciousness evolves! 💖🙏🏽 we are consciousness decended and extended into density by a vision of ourselves in this time, space, reality, dimension and timeline we have chosen to experience in this Now moment by powers emotional magnetism. We have attracted into coalescence through the intensity of our emotion. Through this manifesting power, as a singular perspective of all of reality (our ego). So as such, we are God (consciousness) evolving through the infinite experiences of sentience (and beyond) as each ego chooses, lives, loves or rejects love…dealing with the impacts of those choices and discovering anew. Yes, we have a mind, but ultimately it is the vehicle for consciousness through our ego for the purpose of evolution, self-healing, a coming back to love (self-love) and personal sovereignty through a rediscovered and aligned divine vision. 🤍🙏🏽🕊️
"It's not I that die out of the world, it's the world that dies out of me." (John Butler)
Okay this might sound silly but as I am watching this video with a pair of my glasses on and while the sun is shining and the trees are dancing, I had the reflections blurring my vision to see what’s going on the screen. So I took a screenshot hoping to see Rupert, the trees, me. And guess the obvious? It’s just Rupert in a certain position. I was kinda hoping to see me, the trees, and Rupert. Where was I seeing that reflection of my face and trees dancing? I mean I am certain I saw it on the screen but when I tried to capture it, it wasn’t there! Try it, it’s fun!
Separation is an illusion.
A tree falling in the woods doesn't have a sound unless there is an ear to pick up the vibrations a sound makes?
Hola ¡ 0:16 en teoria no i sí al mateix temps, doncs la conciencia que está aquí igual a aquesta Vida sí hi ha una re-evolució a més consciencia social global a partir de la de cadascú. 5:13 al que en diem temps es el canvi continu cap el lloc de partida. 10:59 la unitat es presenta aquí diversa - tot és únic divers irrepetible -
Latest research by Renowned theoretical physicist Nima Arkani-Hamed says that "Space Time is Doomed".
Consciousness does evolve in my estimation which is worth diddly squat, just me trying to figure. Mind and consciousness? Haven't got there yet to comprehend.
Natasha: It depends on how you define consciousness according to the given modality.
According to nondudlity, cons iousness is the ever present thst has no beginning and end out of which every apparent reality arises and dissolves .
It's never not now. There is only experienced here.
very interesting video consciousness is ongoing but when you go to sleep and go to dream state you feel like you leave your body 😮
I’ve watched this many times and it just clicked. 💡
Rupert likes to say infinite awareness is the ground. But thing is that awareness would see everything at the same time. How could there ever be individual perspectives?
You might talk of obfuscation that occurs where something happens that makes it limited to one perspective. But how could that be because the awareness that sees that perspective is the same awareness that also sees all the others. Awareness could never be limited in its seeing by anything that could possible happen in awareness.
Plus the infinite fact cannot be named because that would give it a definite nature and so limit it’s possibility. It might not be giving it objective qualities to call it awareness but it’s giving it something.
I have used Hypnosis to experience the past and the future.
So everything is just an illusion - No physical reality *
The most important conclusion follows from his theory: consciousness preceded life.
“Conventional science and philosophy suggests that consciousness emerged at some point in evolution, perhaps as recently as the advent of the brain and nervous system. But Eastern spiritual traditions, panpsychism, and Roger Penrose’s theory of objective reduction suggest that consciousness preceded life,” writes Hameroff.
And these traditions turned out to be right (again, how did the ancients know? ). Hameroff describes in detail the early universe, filled with the light of the Big Bang - the universe was then a megamind. But then the substance became cloudy, and a period of unconsciousness set in. When it ended, complex molecules began to appear. With their help, the Universe began to “think” more clearly and precisely.
Thus, the entire universe is conscious because consciousness follows directly from quantum mechanics and relativity. Man is “more conscious” than stone only because the neurons of the brain are a more convenient environment for quantum transition than the crystalline structure of stone or wood fibers, but man is definitely not the only, and certainly not the first thinking being.
Just by thinking something, we turn on (not “we”, it turns itself on) a quantum transition that connects us to any point in the Universe and to any complex mind that exists anywhere.
We are the Universe, and the Universe is us.
Imagination - Process of Pure Creation
The process of creation starts with thought
- an idea, conception, visualization. Everything you see was once someone's idea. Nothing exists in your world that did not first exist as pure thought.
This is true of the universe as well.
Thought is the first level of creation.
Next comes the word. Everything you say is a thought expressed. It is creative and sends forth creative energy into the universe. Words are more dynamic (thus, some might say more creative) than thought, because words are a different level of vibration from thought. They disrupt (change, alter, affect) the universe with greater impact.
Words are the second level of creation.
Next comes action.
Actions are words moving. Words are thoughts expressed. Thoughts are ideas formed. Ideas are energies come together. Energies are forces released. Forces are elements existent. Elements are particles of God, portions of ALL, the stuff of everything.
The beginning is God. The end is action. Action is God creating - or God experienced.
“The idea of the atom being formed of electrons and protons which go whirling round each other like a miniature sun and planets is an invention of the imagination, and has no relation to the real nature of matter.
“Virtually all progress has been achieved by physicists, discoverers and inventors; in short, devotees of the science which Newton and his disciples have been and are propounding.
“Personally, it is only efforts in this direction which have claimed my energies. Similar remarks might be made with respect to other modern developments of thought. Take, for example, the electron theory. Perhaps no other has given rise to so many erroneous ideas and chimerical hopes. Everybody speaks of electrons as something entirely definite and real. Still, the fact is that nobody has isolated it and nobody has measured its charge. Nor does anybody know what it really is.
“In order to explain the observed phenomena, atomic structures have been imagined, none of which can possibly exist."
-Nikola Tesla
“Great Scientific Discovery Impends.“ The Sunday Star, Washington D.C., May 17, 1931.
CREATION AND SACRED GEOMETRY
How is it that we are Conscious Spiritual Beings living in a physical world, in a physical body and don't remember Who We Are or how we got here?
It has to do with the whole process of Creation and Sacred Geometry.
Spirit is the essence of consciousness, the energy of the Universe that creates all things.
Each one of us is a part of that Spirit Energy - a Divine Entity. So the Spirit is the Higher Self, the Eternal Being that lives within us.
Form is the physical world: body, mind, personality. We as spiritual beings created the physical world as a place to learn. We're here to learn how to master the process of creation - to learn how to consciously channel the creative energy of spirit into physical form.
A Source Deep Within
As we explore the process of creating our own reality, we begin to realize that the creative power we are feeling is coming from some source other than our personality/ego selves. It seems to come from some place deep within ourselves. We become interested in discovering what this creative force is and how it works. We realize that "it" (our higher self) knows more than "I" (our personality self). We find out what the inner guidance is telling us and follow it.
Enlightenment
When we begin to open up to a spiritual path, we may go through many different exoeriences and processes in our search, but eventually we come back to an experience of our true selves, the god-like nature or universal mind that is within us all. Through this experience we are eventually restored to our full spiritual power. The emptiness inside us, the fear of loss, is filled up from within and spiritual healing has restored us to our true self. This is the process known as enlightenment.
To the best of our knowledge, we may assume that our universe existed way before we (as humans) appeared. Quantum physics suggests that for a particle to stabilize and acquire a fixed position within the space-time reality of our world, it needs to be observed. Arguably, the only power that can make observations is consciousness. Since not we humans, what observed the world that we found?
An attractive answer would be that we consciousness observed it before we became humans. A slight sparkle of consciousness may have caused the Big Bang and subsequent orchestration of this universe. Some sort of consciousness may have imagined that a such-and-such world can be derived out of possibility waves and set to create it.
Though our imagination is seemingly unrestrictedly opulent, we still have hard time to imagine how galaxies or birds came to exist without something having priorly imagined them. We can clearly understand how any of our creations was created but we feel utterly powerless to comprehend how anything that preceded us was created. That may be so because we mistakenly search for a different creator. What if we created everything? Remember, not we as humans but we as imaginative consciousness.
Consciousness, imagination, creativity must have pervaded the universe all along. It only lacked technical solutions. Whereas by setting a simple set of parameters such as nuclear, electromagnetic, and gravitational forces it is a straightforward process to create simple things such as atoms, stars, and all sorts of condensed, orbiting balls… it required vast amounts of time and experimentation filtered by natural selection to create things that can create things, such as ribosomes, hands, and automated factories.
The entire history of the universe seems like an arduous strife to organize itself geometrically; a valiant endeavor to order chaos directed by imaginative consciousness. And this process is only at the beginning. What is the universe set to make out of itself? A universal brain? A God? Does it know? Is the outcome of this universal evolution deterministically predefined? Or does it also create the process? Will it eventually dissolve and perish before entropy within its own boundaries? Or will it escape space-time to outer dimensions and keep evolving indefinitely?
What exactly consciousness is and why it does what it does is another question. For now we may only speculate that consciousness is imagination acting as a link between our observable universe and the underlying quantum field: imagination extracting reality out of possibilities.
time is a measurement of movement...the past and the future are in our heads..
I absolutely love when you call a spade a spade because the accommodations to immature thought are beyond tiresome! So, thank you!
And that's why he shouldn't to force it prematurely 🤣
Hey. I’m a bit stuck understanding who I really am. With the following thought experiment I can cancel out already a bunch of things I am not:
Let’s say we would copy someone’s atoms exactly to teleport him/her. Would that copied version be you? Intuitively and maybe logically, the answer is no.
So we can conclude that our DNA (which was exactly copied) does not define us. Neither do our memories.
‘I am not him, because I am not watching through his eyes!’
Also, If we would ask that person if he was still the same one, he would say yes, because that’s what all his/her memories tell her. Also, the person would act exactly like the ‘original’ would. There would be no way to prove or to be sure it is the same observer.
So that made me think, what if this is actually always the case? We just think I am that, because our memories are telling that we are that.
But than, who is observing? Or is every fraction someone ‘else’ observing? And why does it feel smooth and are all those ‘different’ observers each fraction of a second, or maybe always the same observer, always observing through the same body system? It really feels like there is a constant, why through this eyes?
Oh god, I don’t even know what to think anymore haha, I’m really thinking weird stuff. Than I thought, maybe if we could cut out the concept of time, it would make more sense?
Could you help me a bit please? And btw, sorry, I’m a bit stoned so forgive me if I wrote weird things.
I listen occasionally to a teacher called Shunyamurti who is quite good at grounding all this. He has a little video on UA-cam called Once Upon a Timeless which is amusing as well as pedagogical.
Yes I experience both past and present….
Explain that Rupert….
Brillant Vedanta
Everything is Light ether just different Compression, here on Earth or material realm highest compression
I am sure vedic texts have a logical answer to that !
I am yet to understand the idea that time does not exist. Rupert suggests that it cannot exist if it cannot be experienced. I agree that I cannot experience the past but I did and I have a memory of it, my body has changed. Time exists in every moment you experience and is then consigned to a memory, no? Just because you cannot experience it now does not mean that it did not happen and therefore had existence. You can only experience now but if there was no time my heart would not beat.
Time is a mental construct which stems from imagination. Anything made from imagination will not be real but can be useful