Only relevant if you have a low/mid range rig. That stuff gets ignored and is outright unwanted on high ends rigs - we DON'T want console parity, we want BETTER. But I do see your point, of course, such an option would be good to eliminate guesswork for many people.
@@TheUltimateBlooper While that's true, being "only relevant" means it is relevant. I'm sure you'll agree, it's not all about what you do or don't want, as you say you can simply ignore and move on to other settings. As you also say, it eliminates guesswork and gives other players a known, existing base to work from. More options is always good. :-)
@@TheUltimateBlooper yes it's only relevant in the context of low-mid range PCs but that's the majority of gaming PC's anyway. High end gaming PCs are not the standard, they form a minority in the gaming world. So, I see no reason to rob the rest of PC gamers of that information, especially since it's nothing that would detract from any work as it involves almost no work except putting in the menu. They already know what the settings are, so why not give everyone the info on what would be the console settings?
@@TheUltimateBlooper yes we do want better absolutely. and i like the comments of the other replies. in addition tho, the default option for games in the future would mean u, myself, and other people w good pcs will have something to base their improved graphics over the default options if u get what im saying. basically default options = basis of what your pc can improve on
Just like MGSV i've been blown away at just how well it performs, DS is putting less of a strain on my rig than some games that came out four years or more do.
@@vandammage1747 DirectML is just an API. They still need to develop the algorithms and train the model, which I am not sure will happen. Also, the inference is running on tensor cores on Turing GPUs, and afawk, there is no such things on upcoming AMD gpus... So a DLSS running on AMD gpu might actually hurt performances more than help.
Because why waste fps on native resolution when you can use DLSS that looks just as good as native, but also gives you a big FPS boost. its a no brainer.
@@battyflaps5410 it depends on the implementation and the engine. It does look better in this game. I do believe though with time it will be the preferred option for both developers and gamers.
@@battyflaps5410 honestly even if it doesn't, you can't deny the performance gain. The problem with native is that native resolution looks superior, but it totally gets destroyed by TAA, which introduces ghosting and flickering. All DLSS 2.0 does is reconstruct the final image without those graphical artifacts, which makes the final image better.
@@jeancarrascoplane5579 My favorite was Low Roar- Easy way out. The sections in the mountains and World War are very immersive with a 7.1 surround sound especially if you choose the music setting for the soundtrack.
Just wanted to drop by and bring up the fact that people were way off on this game. Finishing up my third playthrough. Platinumed it the first time around. Love the photo mode. Everything about this game is such an ethereal experience. I will gladly take experimental 'walking simulators' like this over the generic shit triple A studios keep pumping out.
Like you I have played through the game multiple times, and even picked up the art book & the 'songs from' album. It's OK if people play the game and find it's not for them, but it seems like a lot of people just wrote it off entirely without playing and simply repeat the 'walking simulator' comment. Their loss I guess, it was my favourite game of 2019.
@@DaveSimonH Irony for me is that all the people I've seen complain about the game, are the ones who've played it and disliked it and denouncing it as a glorified 'walking simulator'. Leading up to the game release people didn't even know what it was or what to make of it. Upon release and people began playing it, I started to hear a lot of complaining.
Somanithel Kheang Death Stranding’s world is empty by design (I can accept you not liking it) but saying botw (which you can like or not as a game) is an empty open world is absolutely false. Botw’s open world is filled to the brim with secrets and things to discover, it’s just that the game doesn’t directly tell you where to go, instead you have to interpret the game’s cryptic hints. The only negative point I can think of about Breath Of The Wild is the lack of variety in enemy designs...you kinda fight the same few enemies throughout the adventure
@@jippalippa breath of the wild is empty as fuck, only things you can discover are either koroks or shrines, which is nice the first time around, but replaying it, the issue that there's really nothing to even do other than just walk, turn over rocks for koroks and once in a while do a shrine or two.
I have to say both guerilla and kojima productions have done a great job of optimising a console focused engine to pc I am just excited what the ps5 version of decima can do on pc, if they decide to port horizon 2 or any other game running off the decima tech.
Rex815 The Decima Engine was already on PC, that’s why it was so easy, add the passion and effort Guerrilla and Kojima are willing to put into their game, and you get an amazing PC port
The Late Shift I played for almost two hours now and thankfully I did not encounter any problems apart from a bit of stuttering during the opening cutscene. Otherwise the game runs like a charm. It stays above 120 FPS almost all the time on 1080p.
Do you know if they updated Metro Exodus' DLSS implementation to DLSS 2.0? I would really love to play that game with RTX On at 1440p on my 2070S, but it is very demanding and DLSS 1.0 just destroys image quality.
@@band0lero nope. No intention to from the devs too. I literally just finished playing it for the first time and was curious as well after seeing how awesome 2.0 in control was.
@@band0lero I'm playing Exodus for the first time on a 2080Ti at 4K, all settings are maxed out and DLSS is keeping the game around 60. There's no major visual issues that I noticed, and I'm very familiar with what true 4K looks like. Go ahead and play it I say, it looks great!
In order to achieve 144fps in Crysis exclusive fullscreen, I have to hit 'alt + enter' 5-6 times. Maybe you can cheese Death Stranding into exclusive fullscreen mode with the same method.
Am I the only person her prefers borderless full screen anyway? I mean, how much more useful is exclusive full screen? I tend to find the convenience of alt-tabbing to be better than whatever little performance bump it’ll give.
@@Bestgameplayer10 I think borderless doesn't work with freesync you have to be full screen and in some games like crysis it produces wierd stuttering and less fluid gameplay
19:18 the animation of the star-formed grass waving in the wind at the bottom is smooth at native 4K and with CAS but jumps pretty heavily with DLSS. Could that be an artifact of the reconstruction technique, Alex?
I love watching Digital Foundry videos and don't miss even one of them, but seriously I don't check for such tiny detail when actually playing games as I am more engrossed playing it. I hope DLSS 2.0 comes to all future games, more performance for same or better visuals is a big plus.
@@FullNietzsche It's particularly obvious in motion, DLSS seems to be laugues ahead in being temporally stable without pixels shimmering between a 1 pixel fine line & ghosting.
Looking forward to see what the console equivalents will be able to achieve! Software is outrunning the hardware if they keep up the amazing work with all that stuff 😜
I beat DS on PS4 back last fall when it came out. I still think about it from time to time. I cant really say that about most games I've played this year. My wife who watched me play it through told me only Breath of the Wild was better to watch me play through, and this was pretty close.
Don't you worry, the new 3000 series will have better DLSS and better raytracing. I'm ok with my 1080Ti. There are so few DLSS 2.0 games. As I expected, the new technology will really be used with the next generation of graphic cards.
Tomas Giachetta It’s a great game, the world is fascinating. The story is really nuts lol but overall I would say play it and see for yourself. I have a lot of positive things to say, just the only negative I have is that it’s rather slow and if you can get past that it picks up nicely after 9 hrs.
@@tomasgiachetta2059 Its the anti-thesis of contemporary AAA games; slow, surreal, soulful, and most importantly highlights that games first and foremost have to be a great experience since gameplay and other aspects are subjective. It's similar to games like Shadow of the Colossus, Journey, MGSV, Ico, and Pathologic.
Horizon Zero Dawn for the PC gonna use this engine, I'm very happy to see how it perform, my RTX 2060 Super and Ryzen 5 3600X combo will run it like a charm ...
@@bearpuns5910 yes bro! i played it on PS4 (not finished yet) but i'm willing to continue on my PC, more FPS, updated engine , Aloy will be much prettier , maybe some new stuffs who knows , can't wait !
@Ya_ _Ləə I hope it's not gonna be the naked mods ones lol...Aloy's deserve better than that...just some 4k textures pack or something raytraced related ...
The only game I wish for in my lifetime is the one that has : 1. Environment and Graphics like Death Stranding 2.Combat like Sekiro 3.Stories Like Witcher 4. Combat animations like Nier Automata
Well I hate to break it to you, but since modern day video games are used as political propaganda Trojan horses masquerading as escapism, you're probably gonna have a long wait.
@@robomnemonic3751 Ray tracing is the future and will cut down development time. years from now developers wont have to hand craft lighting but simply add ray tracing to light sources and boom the scene has lit for them and in a more realistic and natural way than hand crafted will ever produce. Not to mention if you havent experienced it first hand which 97% of the PC community haven't then you cant judge as it looks WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than current fake lighting techniques but is something that needs to be experience first hand in my opinion. Sure it's expensive at the moment but with DLSS it helps alot and if you play at 1080p you can max every game with full Ray tracing no problem. Also next graphics cards will probably add 100+ percent extra ray tracing performance over current cards since it's a new technology. I know from first hand experience i have a 2080 super that iv'e overclocked. i've played games like Minecraft, Control, Quake 2, Metro Exodus, BFV etc with Ray tracing.
I've played a lot of games, but this one is one I feel I'm going to remember for a long time. I only have a 5700xt, but I'm hoping to see some benefits compared to my PS4 Pro when I replay it. (EDIT: by "only have" I mean I might not be able to play it at the settings talked about in this vid. 4k/60 will be a big ask for this card. I'm not complaining about the card)
Based on the RX 580 performance you should get 1440p at well over 60fps with a 5700xt. At least I hope so because I have a 5700xt and a 1440p 144hz monitor, haha. I actually recently bought this on PS4 but will probably sell it and re-buy on PC.
@@Lanse1984 Agreed. Basically everything I play at 1440p is well over 60fps with max settings. I'm definitely feeling the lack of that DLSS 2.0 black magic though. Could be approaching my 144hz ceiling in Death Stranding with a 2070 Super...
I have the RX 5700XT. It can play almost anything from this era at 1440p Ultra or High above 60 FPS with a mid range CPU. The PS3 era? It can easily play at 4K Ultra.
It will be deceivingly frustrating at first, but give it some time and dedication, it’ll be worth it. I know it sounds crazy but this game literally changed my life for the better
Aysei good thing we can all agree to disagree. It was loads of fun for me and offered me satisfaction and stress as any mainstream single player experience offers. It’s definitely a game, it’s just a massive experience as well.
@@Granhier Hardly a game because it's not a Shooty Bang Bang experience? Never forget that AAA games are supposed to move the industry forward. Not everything has to be a Witcher/Cod/Battle Royale etc. clone to satisfy your "Gamey" Need.
@@shervinxv5969 Broski, don't be the "Last of us 2 is the Schindler's List of videogames" kinda guy. There's much more outside of shootybangbang, that still engages you in actual activities. But Death Stranding is really fucking passive in what it allows you to do. If you find that type of thing fun, more power to you, but watching paint dry is about equally riveting.
@Lee Griffiths Turn based games engage you in different ways. You can't really turn a turn based game into a movie, be it strategy or RPG, but you could easily do it with Death Stranding, and lose very little of meaningful content in the process. Slow burning, or not necessarily hectic games don't mean they aren't engaging. But DS doesn't really do anything of the sort aside from the occasional shooting sequence. Just carry packages and watch hour long cutscenes.
@@ghost656metal8 Why can't everyone just enjoy the games ? I am glad that exclusives are made with great care but would really love to see them shine on PC's even if they release on it later. It will be a win-win for everyone.
Love this game. It’s one of my top 10 favorites. I’m still currently waiting for this to unlock on steam. Finally I can play this at 60fps with ultra settings!
@@1234Needforspeed you get an hour and 59 minutes of real game time to refund shit on steam. i've refunded more games than i've kept because of that policy
Im getting myself the limited day on ed with the steelbook but im currently waiting for the reviews as i intend to play this max on my 1070ti with at least 80fps on 1080p. Buying the dayone ed because apparently its 10usd cheaper than buying directly on steam and i get to have a steel case. The game is still digital lol
Well, that was with DLSS (1.0). DLSS 2.0 stepped up the game noticeably and got positive reactions from Day 1 basically. And while I would usually prefer native besides some exceptions, DLSS (2.0) is honestly awesome tech, if you can use it. But not only that you need an Nvidia card for that, just few games have support for that and it needs to be implemented; it's not sth. general, that's the downside with that method.
@@dennisjungbauer4467 This. DLSS 2.0 proved everyone's point that RTX and the technology that came with it released too early and half baked. Now, DLSS is very impressive and the next thing to do is expand how easily games can implement it.
16:53 It's funny that the upscaling and reconstruction techniques on consoles make the image look worse than the real thing but on PC it' makes the image look better than the real thing. Kinda ironic and huge win for Nvidia and DLSS!
Huh, this was a pretty long but very nice video. Didn't even realize that it was almost half an hour until you mentioned its length and I took a surprised look at the runtime :D. One thing I wish you touched on though is DLSS at a lower resolution. Many people still have 1080p or 1440p monitors running off of more wallet-friendly cards like the 2060 and could still benefit from higher framerates. But running an internal resolution of 720p or 1080p with DLSS upscaling to 1080p or 1440p respectively gives DLSS less detail to work with, so it would've been interesting to see if the "Definitely use DLSS because it looks better than even native resolution" recommendation still stands at these lower resolutions. It would've added a few more minutes to the video and more work for you but I think it would be interesting to some people. But maybe you go into that in your upcoming checkerboard vs DLSS video so I'll sit tight for that one. Either way, it's a great video and I really appreciate how in-depth you guys go. Keep it up Alex
@@Supernerd471 yeah my impression was that VIIr is hitting a memory budget that won't be an issue on PC I hope anyway, the visuals were really disappointing
@@potatotablet727 the only Sony 1st party exclusive coming to PC is Horizion Zero Dawn every other Sony game that is already on PC or coming to PC a 3rd party timed exclusives
@@BnMProductions11 I do even though just got a laptop with i7 10750h and RTX 2060. It's always interesting to see comparisons. This game and Control has very good DLSS implementations.
Had my time with the game and thoroughly enjoyed the calmness that it brings. One thing I hope to see is that inventory system be used in games in the future. Really changed the possibilities of inventory that can be managed
Well, for all of this (except LOD draw distance), we have reshade. Looking forward to fixing the shadows, or lack thereof, we have loads of better ambient occlusion options, AA and lighting effects.
Reshade unfortunately has some limitations that can make all those shaders useless. Main issue being fog and particle effects not working properly due to reshades position in the rendering pipeline.
@@ZalvaTionZ I know, reshade only has access to the final Z (depth) buffer, in effect making it only suitable for post processing. But some amazing things can be done there as well.
I think Kojima have one of the best rendering engineers of the world, since metal gear phantom pain, in Fox engine, The game was incredible beautiful, with almost perfect faces rendering, with smooth FPS.
Dude this was phenomenal, probably one of the best DF video's I've seen. A much more chill and awesome presentation style - and I mean this in a very complimentary way - by Alex with informative and genuinely eye-opening performance testing and results. Again, well done. Didn't feel 'overly biased' at all either, but still had that flex of his enthusiasm for PC, which is great! And it made it 10x better and more engaging to watch. Love this shit, haha.
yeah 16x is still 16x tho. I know 4x4 is 16 lol. It was a joke referencing when Todd Howard said "16 times the detail" about fo76. I'll say it again cuz I'm sure there will be more comments telling me that my joke math isnt real math (even though if you read 16x, without referencing the ps4pro's 4x, it still says 16x) YES 4 TIMES FOUR IS 16, AND 16 IS NOT SIXTEEN TIMES 4. happy?
@@Hhhh22222-w there is nothing indie about it. And I really beg to differ, the PC community has been ripping on this since it was announced, see "walking simulator" on steam.
I was very much anticipating this game's release on PC. I hadn't realized that today was release day until I saw this video title. I started this video, watched maybe a couple minutes. Paused, went and bought the game. I'm super stoked to try this on my newish computer. Ryzen 7 3800X, 16gb 3000hz ram, RTX 2060 FE, 256gb m.2. I'll get flack for listing my specs. I did this so I can come back and update my comment with how it is running on my PC. :) Metrics! Also, thanks for another informative video DF!
Just to spare those with HDR monitors some time: the video is NOT in HDR. Hey DF, I love your videos and your technical breakdowns. I love them even more when they are in HDR! Gotta justify this $1200 purchase somehow amirite? Would you mind recording in HDR more often when you do technical reviews of HDR games? I'd really like to see the implementation without purchasing the game.
@@aaaaaahhh9537 Sure it does bro. DF has a whole playlist of HDR videos, though most are from a few years ago. You can only watch HDR in UA-cam though if you load it on Chrome and have HDR enabled in Windows Settings.
DLSS plus Ray Tracing are the future of gaming; funny how most people berated Nvidia almost 2 years ago when they launched Turing and Jensen say pretty much the same, and now just see AMD scrambling to feature-matching what Nvidia has had for years.
It's remarkable how reconstruction the image at a lower resolution is offering better visuals than a native resolution at much higher resolution, it's becoming more clear that DLSS 2.0 is becoming the killer feature to have and AMD needs it's own version for RDNA 2 gpu's, otherwise it would be a hard sell for many when Nvidia hardware can use a much more modest gpu and get better visuals and performance by using DLSS 2.0, it will also be interesting what the next gen consoles will have for reconstructing of the image. If AMD's RDNA 2 gpu's on the PC or the next gen consoles don't have something like DLSS 2.0, that could be a costly mistake.
Man high FPS is everything. It’s even more important than resolution. 60 FPS should be the lowest standard frame rate for next gen consoles and developers should consider this too. Think about it. You can’t clearly appreciate the graphics when the game is not running as smooth as 60 FPS!!!
PS4Pro owner here - I’m excited for everyone on PC to be able to play this game! Be aware that it does teach you to walk before you can run (literally) and at the start of the game even the smallest stream and hill is an obstacle... but over time you’ll be carving paths into the landscape and traversing it in a variety of ways so be patient and stick with it! I do hope that we see some of these improvements come to the PS5 as well!
13:17 “...I recommend leaving it on. BUT, should your potato 🥔 be particularly old....” -That burn and chuckle. 😂Get em. Get em! (Which is also me. For Im too broke to have a PC 😭)
A heads-up: 21:9 is broken. It shows up as 3360x1440 in the menu and results in black vertical bars on the sides of screen. 32:9 users are reporting the same problem. Used a hex edit to fix it, but pretty unbelievable considering how they touted UW support.
On my i7-6700k/1080ti @3440x1440p max settings (except for AA), I pretty much get a flawless 60fps 99% of the time. This game was really surprising. I didn’t think I was going to enjoy it, but it crept up on me and I wouldn’t play it again because of how slow it develops. But I can imagine this game is good for different people for different reasons. Bravo Kojima.
@@TheBoostedDoge btw how's the 1650oc it's less is it less powerful than the rx570??? Both desktop version??? Cause I am building a budget pc and I need a budget GPU
@@jeanlepage4264 Difference is, I can achieve much higher frames and a better longer-lasting experience with my 2080. Even though it may have been expensive at launch, it pays for itself by giving me high frames and some of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. Looking forward to the 3000 series. ;)
Pretty crazy to think that we've reached a point where native resolution is inferior, not only in terms of performance, but visually as well. Deep Learning is truly amazing.
Are you guys noticing the SSR in water reflections to look quite bad? Like "stands out from the rest of the presentation" level, low-res staircase edges kinda bad? I can't tell if there's a bug or something but it's very annoying, it's quite distracting from an otherwise very pretty game.
@@samuelchurch5124 Nioh, Tetris Effect & flower were once exclusive too. There are other Sony published games too like Predator: Hunting Grounds. I only wish that Sony starts putting it's Ist party 'Exclusives' on PC after 2 yrs instead of never {To maintain the supposed value of HW via exclusivity}. If it is only a question of experiencing the game then there is PS now too i.e. if one can't afford the Hardware.
If anyone want the music from the beggining, it's "Stepping Stones" by Ludvig Forssell in the Death Stranding album. And the one in the end is "Once, There Was an explosion" in the same album 😎
This game really does need to be played with high end HDR, if you can plug this into a great HDR tv, with 800-1400 ish nits brightness, do it. Looking forward to playing this again with 60+fps
My 2060 is becoming an even more amazing investment by the day. I could probably do 8K 30 fps with DLSS 2.0 in this game using DSR and a custom resolution, just to see if it works. Big oof for AMD and the people who said DLSS was never gonna work at 19:19
Same. My 2060 will outlive the competition if more games implement DLSS 2.0. Much more so if the rumored upcoming DLSS 3.0 allows the option to be enabled on all games.
@@JoshhTW Im questioning that. Unless the 30 series cards have a lot more tensor cores than rumored. The reason its not enabled on all games, is there is a lot of pre-calculations done. Which requires you go through nvidia to get done. The amount of tensor cores on these things is enough to scale the image up WITH the pre-calculations. But to do them without requires a lot more than is reasonable to put on GPUs rn. Don't expect support to be given to all games until we have TPUs.
I have been trying to tell people that DLSS 2.0 is one the greatest advancements in PC gaming ever. That technology is really crazy. Better looking and it runs much better thats just insane. That is where I think these next gen consoles will flounder. You can now buy an rtx 2060 and in a game that supports DLSS which pretty much all major ones will be going forward it will perform the same if not better than the next gen consoles. Just imagine even a 3060 which will be put within half a year of next gen consoles. It will absolutely destroy them with pretty much 2080 ti levels of performance in a $300ish card with DLSS on. A 3080ti with DLSS will literatly probably be x2 the performance of next gen consoles or more with DLSS.
As PC is my primary platform for gaming I have a dirty little secret... I purchased the PS4 version at launch and used LG's "TruMotion"(Increases framerate and adds fake frames in between frames) and slowed down the camera rotation speed in game and it was STUNNING how well it mimicked 60fps. This only looks good on slow paced games such as Death Standing and you MUST slow down camera rotation speed or it will get very choppy. I also used it for God of War which yielded reasonable results.
The graphical options to tweak is extremely sparse..I expected way more after MGS5. There are only 1080p or 720p graphical options..can't even choose 900p which sucks.
I kept seeing comments for years about how framerate makes a huge difference and i never really use to listen but since i switched from console to a pc running games at 100-144hz is something truly special, albeit i'm just playing at sdr and 1080p. I keep debating whether to switch to 1440p or even 1440p ultrawide, might get a RTX 3070 and take the plunge
1440 was a big and noticeable upgrade for me this year, still with a 2070 can play most things above 60 (except for Red Dead's insane settings) and some RTX games.
@@LarryB I'll look into it more this fall, maybe get a good deal on a mo itor around black Friday, that's when I built my pc and I got a really good build for a reasonable price.
DLSS 2.0 on my 2080 Super at 4K looks fantastic. I'm only playing on a 4K HDR10 60hz TV but I run it at 90+ FPS. I do see a lot of tearing due to the crappy TV so I'm enabling vsync when I play today. I can't imagine playing this at only 30FPS on a console.
I had to come here, cuz PCgamer failed to show us exactly what's new and better. Digital Foundry never fails when it comes to comparing games and showing us how good the tech behind the games is. Subscriber for lief
@AbsoluteMMA101 ya, I don't like when PC fanboys shit on Sony and playstation but still ask for PC ports of their exclusives, they should atleast have some decency to acknowledge the quality of PS exclusives
Shit, DLSS 2.0 is a thing of beauty! More perf + better IQ than native resolution. Win-win. EDIT: and 5-6x increase in frame-rate over PS4 on a 6C Intel CPU is amazing to see. 21:03
The biggest disappointment I've had with the next gen consoles is the lack of dedicated hardware for DLSS-like features. While I'm really excited for raytracing I was even more surprised by DLSS and what a true gamechanger it has turned out to be.
If a lead developer is reading this. The “default” setting for pc that matches consoles is the way to go in the future please
Only relevant if you have a low/mid range rig. That stuff gets ignored and is outright unwanted on high ends rigs - we DON'T want console parity, we want BETTER. But I do see your point, of course, such an option would be good to eliminate guesswork for many people.
@@TheUltimateBlooper Yeah, but having the option to just match console settings is nice.
@@TheUltimateBlooper While that's true, being "only relevant" means it is relevant. I'm sure you'll agree, it's not all about what you do or don't want, as you say you can simply ignore and move on to other settings. As you also say, it eliminates guesswork and gives other players a known, existing base to work from. More options is always good. :-)
@@TheUltimateBlooper yes it's only relevant in the context of low-mid range PCs but that's the majority of gaming PC's anyway.
High end gaming PCs are not the standard, they form a minority in the gaming world. So, I see no reason to rob the rest of PC gamers of that information, especially since it's nothing that would detract from any work as it involves almost no work except putting in the menu. They already know what the settings are, so why not give everyone the info on what would be the console settings?
@@TheUltimateBlooper yes we do want better absolutely. and i like the comments of the other replies. in addition tho, the default option for games in the future would mean u, myself, and other people w good pcs will have something to base their improved graphics over the default options if u get what im saying. basically default options = basis of what your pc can improve on
I like this approach of having the "Default" settings preset provide console parity on PC. Very intuitive for the end user.
Yes
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Yes less hassle for me honestly
All PC games should do this as standard.
i always get extra performance on my games by turning off AA and taking off my glasses. BAM! instant free FXAA.
ok, that's a good one
My glasses are the only thing keeping me from experiencing The Outer Worlds' switch port 24/7.
Shame I'm nearsighted and not farsighted.
Hahaha
Nearsighted gang stay mad
The fact that we are even comparing the anti-aliasing on INDIVIDUAL EYELASHES shows how far graphics have come.
not rly,consoles stopped evolution of graphics and AI for 10 years.
@@critical-thinker666 AI: yes, Graphics:no
Seriously! I remember dreaming about hands with individually rendered fingers rather than blocks with thumbs.
My GPU will catch fire trying to do that.
@@critical-thinker666 meh, i prefer this, im not rich and i dont want to buy a new pc every 3 months. im fine with this.
It's amazing what Nvidia has achieved with DLSS 2.0. Every game should have this in the future
Ok Aiden Pearce 😎👌
@@Zeegoku1007 okay is not enough. Give me a kiss
Im currently on GTX 1080 and i love it, but i am more likely going to be buying into the 3000 series.
Would be nice if it weren't Nvidia exclusive.
@@nextlifeonearth Tell Amd to get better
I wonder how long will it take to have a mod replacing BTs to Thomas the Dank engine.
WTF lol
Not long lol. Give or take a few days/weeks.
So enough
The horror...
Give it 2 and a half weeks.
Just like MGSV i've been blown away at just how well it performs, DS is putting less of a strain on my rig than some games that came out four years or more do.
DLSS 2.0 is the software we all needed this generation for 4k gaming.
Well, sucks that both MS and Sony are using AMD GPUs; just imagine what an Ampere-based XSX would be like.
@@victorsegoviapalacios4710 XSX has directML and already shown amazing HDR. They will definitely do scaling too
@@vandammage1747 DirectML is just an API. They still need to develop the algorithms and train the model, which I am not sure will happen. Also, the inference is running on tensor cores on Turing GPUs, and afawk, there is no such things on upcoming AMD gpus... So a DLSS running on AMD gpu might actually hurt performances more than help.
Now if they can find something better than TAA because it blurs everything.
There are similar reconstruction techniques that's I'm sure they will use.
DLSS 2.0 is so good, nvidia really has winner on their hands with this. Cant wait for 3.0 when new cards come out.
I don't think DLSS 3.0 will be much better. DLSS 2.0 is perfect. there is not much room for improvement.
@@varshoee Its not perfect. There is still some artifacting in games like control.
@@veloce5491 especially text is often terrible
@@varshoee Also it would be better if it can be implemented on a driver level through the NVIDIA control panel without needing devs approval.
@@HeloisGevit now this is powerfull.
To think only a few months ago everyone thought DLSS was dead, and now it's recommended over native res.
Because why waste fps on native resolution when you can use DLSS that looks just as good as native, but also gives you a big FPS boost. its a no brainer.
@@NoahThomas29 It doesn't look just as good as native though is everybody blind by nvidia lately?
DL in general is the future of computer graphics!
@@battyflaps5410 it depends on the implementation and the engine. It does look better in this game. I do believe though with time it will be the preferred option for both developers and gamers.
@@battyflaps5410 honestly even if it doesn't, you can't deny the performance gain. The problem with native is that native resolution looks superior, but it totally gets destroyed by TAA, which introduces ghosting and flickering. All DLSS 2.0 does is reconstruct the final image without those graphical artifacts, which makes the final image better.
Wonder if we'll ever see DLSS in Horizon: Zero Dawn.
Its the same engine/tech so probably yes.
Horizon is AMD sponsored, this game has it mainly cuz its Nvidia sponsored. so i doubt it tbh
@@nexusiv1421 Maybe AMD's own adaptive shading??
@@ChrisBa303 Does not mean much. You still have to integrate DLSS into your code.
@@nexusiv1421 Lame.
I still think about this game especially the soundtrack.
"BB's theme starts playing..."
@@jeancarrascoplane5579 My favorite was Low Roar- Easy way out. The sections in the mountains and World War are very immersive with a 7.1 surround sound especially if you choose the music setting for the soundtrack.
Yeah, this game is now on my yearly replay list. This game hit me on a spiritual level. I hope the PC port comes to PS5.
@@danielb3863 I have more than 200 games in the backlog so I won't replay Death Stranding anytime soon.
@@danielb3863 you nailed it.... Amazing game..... My goty last year.... And i thought i will just try to like it because its kojima .
Just wanted to drop by and bring up the fact that people were way off on this game.
Finishing up my third playthrough. Platinumed it the first time around. Love the photo mode.
Everything about this game is such an ethereal experience. I will gladly take experimental 'walking simulators' like this over the generic shit triple A studios keep pumping out.
Like you I have played through the game multiple times, and even picked up the art book & the 'songs from' album. It's OK if people play the game and find it's not for them, but it seems like a lot of people just wrote it off entirely without playing and simply repeat the 'walking simulator' comment. Their loss I guess, it was my favourite game of 2019.
@@DaveSimonH Irony for me is that all the people I've seen complain about the game, are the ones who've played it and disliked it and denouncing it as a glorified 'walking simulator'. Leading up to the game release people didn't even know what it was or what to make of it. Upon release and people began playing it, I started to hear a lot of complaining.
3rd playthrough?! Holy shit
Precisely. The gameplay is so fun too!
Its basically Offroad Crazy Taxi.
@@ruekurei88 yer when I first started it I didnt like it. I stuck with it and the game blew me away. Totally not what I expecting. 10/10
Death Stranding and Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild are my favorite games of this generation.
Somanithel Kheang Death Stranding’s world is empty by design (I can accept you not liking it) but saying botw (which you can like or not as a game) is an empty open world is absolutely false. Botw’s open world is filled to the brim with secrets and things to discover, it’s just that the game doesn’t directly tell you where to go, instead you have to interpret the game’s cryptic hints. The only negative point I can think of about Breath Of The Wild is the lack of variety in enemy designs...you kinda fight the same few enemies throughout the adventure
@@jippalippa Breath of the Wild is also empty.
@@jippalippa breath of the wild is empty as fuck, only things you can discover are either koroks or shrines, which is nice the first time around, but replaying it, the issue that there's really nothing to even do other than just walk, turn over rocks for koroks and once in a while do a shrine or two.
I absolutely love this game, it’s a whole experience
same. Love it to death. "Keep on keeping on!"
spent 110 hours in it, 5starred all preppers. I rarely spend that much time in a game (Only did it in Red Dead Redemption 2 in recent times)
DLSS 2.0 is honestly pretty amazing. I hope it becomes more and more common. Maybe even in every game.
they had to licensing it... yeah not cheap...
Only 30 minutes until the Steam release. I am glad that the PC version turned out to be so good.
Exceptional video as always Alex!
I have to say both guerilla and kojima productions have done a great job of optimising a console focused engine to pc
I am just excited what the ps5 version of decima can do on pc, if they decide to port horizon 2 or any other game running off the decima tech.
Rex815 The Decima Engine was already on PC, that’s why it was so easy, add the passion and effort Guerrilla and Kojima are willing to put into their game, and you get an amazing PC port
A ton of people are having issues with it running well. Hope you were not one of em.
The Late Shift I played for almost two hours now and thankfully I did not encounter any problems apart from a bit of stuttering during the opening cutscene.
Otherwise the game runs like a charm. It stays above 120 FPS almost all the time on 1080p.
@@Spoggi99YT sadly the game isnt that good ...well its allright but the bulk of the game is nahhh...a decent 5.5 out of 10
DLSS has really come a long way since that initial, very flawed, Metro Exodus implementation. Looking forward to the checkerboard video!
Initial implementation was Battlefield V.
Do you know if they updated Metro Exodus' DLSS implementation to DLSS 2.0? I would really love to play that game with RTX On at 1440p on my 2070S, but it is very demanding and DLSS 1.0 just destroys image quality.
@@band0lero nope. No intention to from the devs too. I literally just finished playing it for the first time and was curious as well after seeing how awesome 2.0 in control was.
@@band0lero I'm playing Exodus for the first time on a 2080Ti at 4K, all settings are maxed out and DLSS is keeping the game around 60. There's no major visual issues that I noticed, and I'm very familiar with what true 4K looks like. Go ahead and play it I say, it looks great!
@@peckc16 also wolfenstein yb. i can play it at 4k with 2060 lol
In order to achieve 144fps in Crysis exclusive fullscreen, I have to hit 'alt + enter' 5-6 times. Maybe you can cheese Death Stranding into exclusive fullscreen mode with the same method.
Thats a great idea, i noticed the weird vsync going on
It has moreso to do with dx12 not supporting exclusive fullscree,
not a problem with the game
Am I the only person her prefers borderless full screen anyway? I mean, how much more useful is exclusive full screen? I tend to find the convenience of alt-tabbing to be better than whatever little performance bump it’ll give.
@@Bestgameplayer10 I think borderless doesn't work with freesync you have to be full screen and in some games like crysis it produces wierd stuttering and less fluid gameplay
ThatGamer - Ohh okay. Thanks for the input.
19:18 the animation of the star-formed grass waving in the wind at the bottom is smooth at native 4K and with CAS but jumps pretty heavily with DLSS. Could that be an artifact of the reconstruction technique, Alex?
Honestly, native 4k rendering is such a waist of resources. Smart rendering techniques are the future
@Bryce Czirr Checkerboard rendering sucks by comparison because it always reveals its use of the tech too often.
@Bryce Czirr PC has way more exclusives than ps4 lmao
I love watching Digital Foundry videos and don't miss even one of them, but seriously I don't check for such tiny detail when actually playing games as I am more engrossed playing it. I hope DLSS 2.0 comes to all future games, more performance for same or better visuals is a big plus.
That's kinda their thing.
Doesn't even matter if you notice the difference or not visually if it's free on any RTX card anyway :P
Even when he's zoomed in and saying 'look at this amazing big difference' I can hardly tell the difference. I think it's exaggerated somewhat.
@@FullNietzsche It's particularly obvious in motion, DLSS seems to be laugues ahead in being temporally stable without pixels shimmering between a 1 pixel fine line & ghosting.
it made it easy than spend hour try to set it by yourself.. since the damn default don't do much...
DLSS 2.0 continues to be impressive
Looking forward to see what the console equivalents will be able to achieve!
Software is outrunning the hardware if they keep up the amazing work with all that stuff 😜
Basically less blurry and 60+ fps. Great job, KP and DF!
now I need to correct myself, with TAA it is blurry, without AA to much flickering edges. DLSS is the only way... (if you have RTX card)
Take a shot every time he says DLSS.
I dont want to scale back my drinking
I'm in the hospital.
it all about DLSS.... new setting to rule them all..
*ASSESS* the number of times he says DLSS
I beat DS on PS4 back last fall when it came out. I still think about it from time to time. I cant really say that about most games I've played this year. My wife who watched me play it through told me only Breath of the Wild was better to watch me play through, and this was pretty close.
Lmao yeah, lucky lad
My wife said it was on par with Horizon if not a little better because the story was less predictable
That sounds awesome. Just playing a game and your wife is sitting with you, enjoying the experience. Amazing.
The only thing that pains me of not having a turing card is DLSS, damn
Don't you worry, the new 3000 series will have better DLSS and better raytracing. I'm ok with my 1080Ti. There are so few DLSS 2.0 games. As I expected, the new technology will really be used with the next generation of graphic cards.
Ik man. Bought a laptop with 1660ti and now I’m filled with regret.
Same man its the only thing that makes me wanna get an rtx. All just for cyberpunk tbh
@@_Mattz1nho with my 2070, i'm a beta tester for 2070 super cards
@@_Mattz1nho there's such thing as "better DLSS" just compare DLSS 1.0 and DLSS 2.0. DLSS 1.0 is just dogshit
This was one of my favorite ps4 games. Cool to see it look even more beautiful on PC
you do realizing you need a lot of player to build all that shit up... which mean it would be free on epic soon...
@@campkira uhh i think the pc has many players😂 i dont zhink it will be free on the epic store any time soon
campkira lmfao what
I wish I could play this for the first time again
Sameeee :(
So, Is it a good game? I've heard mixed opinions..
Tomas Giachetta It’s a great game, the world is fascinating. The story is really nuts lol but overall I would say play it and see for yourself. I have a lot of positive things to say, just the only negative I have is that it’s rather slow and if you can get past that it picks up nicely after 9 hrs.
@@tomasgiachetta2059 Its the anti-thesis of contemporary AAA games; slow, surreal, soulful, and most importantly highlights that games first and foremost have to be a great experience since gameplay and other aspects are subjective.
It's similar to games like Shadow of the Colossus, Journey, MGSV, Ico, and Pathologic.
@@tomasgiachetta2059 its an acquired taste. personally im falling asleep just watching the footage here
It is truly remarkable, the work NVIDIA did on DLSS 2.0 is gamechanging
OMG thank you for updating the frame-time graph labels to the exact numbers! This had been bothering me for years 🙏
SO glad this supports DLSS 2.0! Hopefully this becomes standard in the future.
Horizon Zero Dawn for the PC gonna use this engine, I'm very happy to see how it perform, my RTX 2060 Super and Ryzen 5 3600X combo will run it like a charm ...
AY! I have the same GPU! 144fps Aloy here we GOOOOOOO
@@bearpuns5910 yes bro! i played it on PS4 (not finished yet) but i'm willing to continue on my PC, more FPS, updated engine , Aloy will be much prettier , maybe some new stuffs who knows , can't wait !
@Ya_ _Ləə oh no
@Ya_ _Ləə I hope it's not gonna be the naked mods ones lol...Aloy's deserve better than that...just some 4k textures pack or something raytraced related ...
I am from the future, OH BOI
The only game I wish for in my lifetime is the one that has :
1. Environment and Graphics like Death Stranding
2.Combat like Sekiro
3.Stories Like Witcher
4. Combat animations like Nier Automata
Well I hate to break it to you, but since modern day video games are used as political propaganda Trojan horses masquerading as escapism, you're probably gonna have a long wait.
@@leeboy2k1 you sound like fun at parties
@@leeboy2k1 You should know that throwing around big words does not make you look smarter
I like political games.
@@xbigjeffe You get that from a 1960's Readers digest?
Besides, parties are for Apes to mirror each other's behaviour, you're not an Ape are you?
Holy shit.. DLSS is the holy grail of pc gaming.
no, raytracing is
@@igorrafael7429 ray tracing coming to console but not dlss
@@igorrafael7429 Raytracing is waste of performance and not worth it at all
@@robomnemonic3751 depends on game, minecraft version is amazing
@@robomnemonic3751 Ray tracing is the future and will cut down development time. years from now developers wont have to hand craft lighting but simply add ray tracing to light sources and boom the scene has lit for them and in a more realistic and natural way than hand crafted will ever produce. Not to mention if you havent experienced it first hand which 97% of the PC community haven't then you cant judge as it looks WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than current fake lighting techniques but is something that needs to be experience first hand in my opinion. Sure it's expensive at the moment but with DLSS it helps alot and if you play at 1080p you can max every game with full Ray tracing no problem. Also next graphics cards will probably add 100+ percent extra ray tracing performance over current cards since it's a new technology. I know from first hand experience i have a 2080 super that iv'e overclocked. i've played games like Minecraft, Control, Quake 2, Metro Exodus, BFV etc with Ray tracing.
Not my cup of tea but there's no disputing how gorgeous this game looks.
LiveWireRed B. I loved it. My cup of coffee.
@@ChrisOnPS4 trash
@@METALFACEDOOMXXXX Such an in-depth review, totally blows Alex's out of the water. You should intern for IGN.
@Lee Griffiths snore stranding is a flop!
@@METALFACEDOOMXXXX are you dumb
I've played a lot of games, but this one is one I feel I'm going to remember for a long time. I only have a 5700xt, but I'm hoping to see some benefits compared to my PS4 Pro when I replay it. (EDIT: by "only have" I mean I might not be able to play it at the settings talked about in this vid. 4k/60 will be a big ask for this card. I'm not complaining about the card)
Based on the RX 580 performance you should get 1440p at well over 60fps with a 5700xt. At least I hope so because I have a 5700xt and a 1440p 144hz monitor, haha. I actually recently bought this on PS4 but will probably sell it and re-buy on PC.
5700xt is no pushover man
Same card mate.. i own Pulse version
@@Lanse1984 Agreed. Basically everything I play at 1440p is well over 60fps with max settings. I'm definitely feeling the lack of that DLSS 2.0 black magic though. Could be approaching my 144hz ceiling in Death Stranding with a 2070 Super...
I have the RX 5700XT. It can play almost anything from this era at 1440p Ultra or High above 60 FPS with a mid range CPU. The PS3 era? It can easily play at 4K Ultra.
Game already looked pretty great on PS4 but this looks absolutely incredible on PC
That's the case for literally every game on console and PC, lmao.
It amazes me how fanboys think 74 frame and 80 frames is a huge or even noticable difference..my goodness
@@sqlevolicious say that to halo 5 lol
I love this game. Will Def be replaying over again with max settings.
Installing now. Will be my first time playing the game.
Enjoy the ride :)
It will be deceivingly frustrating at first, but give it some time and dedication, it’ll be worth it. I know it sounds crazy but this game literally changed my life for the better
When you first discover zip lines you’ll have have that ‘fuck yeah’ moment
@@118halospartan Care to explain how this game changed your life?
Mickey Rey How did it change your life? If I may ask.
One of the best games i have ever played. Already got the Platinum trophy. Hope PC players enjoy this masterpiece as well
I would call this an experience, but hardly a game
Aysei good thing we can all agree to disagree. It was loads of fun for me and offered me satisfaction and stress as any mainstream single player experience offers. It’s definitely a game, it’s just a massive experience as well.
@@Granhier Hardly a game because it's not a Shooty Bang Bang experience? Never forget that AAA games are supposed to move the industry forward. Not everything has to be a Witcher/Cod/Battle Royale etc. clone to satisfy your "Gamey" Need.
@@shervinxv5969 Broski, don't be the "Last of us 2 is the Schindler's List of videogames" kinda guy.
There's much more outside of shootybangbang, that still engages you in actual activities. But Death Stranding is really fucking passive in what it allows you to do. If you find that type of thing fun, more power to you, but watching paint dry is about equally riveting.
@Lee Griffiths Turn based games engage you in different ways. You can't really turn a turn based game into a movie, be it strategy or RPG, but you could easily do it with Death Stranding, and lose very little of meaningful content in the process.
Slow burning, or not necessarily hectic games don't mean they aren't engaging. But DS doesn't really do anything of the sort aside from the occasional shooting sequence. Just carry packages and watch hour long cutscenes.
Man, I can't wait for your Horizon Zero Dawn PC Tech Review.
Same Engine,
@@wizzenberry and then It goes to PC, and the cycle continues
NPC #76
Not spoiling that at 30fps again i'll be smart and wait for the pc version this time.
@ you will be waiting several years before you see horizon 2 on PC
@@ghost656metal8 Why can't everyone just enjoy the games ? I am glad that exclusives are made with great care but would really love to see them shine on PC's even if they release on it later. It will be a win-win for everyone.
Love this game. It’s one of my top 10 favorites. I’m still currently waiting for this to unlock on steam. Finally I can play this at 60fps with ultra settings!
30 minutes to go!
I really wanna try it, but i'm afraid to spend 60 bucks :(
@@1234Needforspeed That's the beauty of Steam. Buy it, play it for an hour, and if you decide it's not for you, get a refund.
@@1234Needforspeed you get an hour and 59 minutes of real game time to refund shit on steam. i've refunded more games than i've kept because of that policy
Im getting myself the limited day on ed with the steelbook but im currently waiting for the reviews as i intend to play this max on my 1070ti with at least 80fps on 1080p.
Buying the dayone ed because apparently its 10usd cheaper than buying directly on steam and i get to have a steel case. The game is still digital lol
remember when everyone was shiting on dlss? lol. how the turntables
Well, that was with DLSS (1.0). DLSS 2.0 stepped up the game noticeably and got positive reactions from Day 1 basically.
And while I would usually prefer native besides some exceptions, DLSS (2.0) is honestly awesome tech, if you can use it. But not only that you need an Nvidia card for that, just few games have support for that and it needs to be implemented; it's not sth. general, that's the downside with that method.
@@dennisjungbauer4467 This. DLSS 2.0 proved everyone's point that RTX and the technology that came with it released too early and half baked. Now, DLSS is very impressive and the next thing to do is expand how easily games can implement it.
the phrase is “how the tables turn”
@@Outplayedqt "Turntables" is a quote from the show "The Office"
@@dio4296 good for you. The correct phrase is how the tables turn.
16:53 It's funny that the upscaling and reconstruction techniques on consoles make the image look worse than the real thing but on PC it' makes the image look better than the real thing. Kinda ironic and huge win for Nvidia and DLSS!
Huh, this was a pretty long but very nice video. Didn't even realize that it was almost half an hour until you mentioned its length and I took a surprised look at the runtime :D.
One thing I wish you touched on though is DLSS at a lower resolution. Many people still have 1080p or 1440p monitors running off of more wallet-friendly cards like the 2060 and could still benefit from higher framerates. But running an internal resolution of 720p or 1080p with DLSS upscaling to 1080p or 1440p respectively gives DLSS less detail to work with, so it would've been interesting to see if the "Definitely use DLSS because it looks better than even native resolution" recommendation still stands at these lower resolutions.
It would've added a few more minutes to the video and more work for you but I think it would be interesting to some people. But maybe you go into that in your upcoming checkerboard vs DLSS video so I'll sit tight for that one. Either way, it's a great video and I really appreciate how in-depth you guys go. Keep it up Alex
What a sublimely beautiful game, especially if you have an ultra wide monitor I'd imagine 👌
Really hope they would add 60fps patch for this on ps5.
Don't buy 30fps games in the first place.
@@AnANas00-x3p Why? You would rob yourself of many great experiences.
@@AnANas00-x3p that all ps4 games lol.
Patch?
Cant patch something that isnt out..
And if it exists, its probably already 60fps.
@@Rakmarok there's no such thing as great experience on 30fps 😂
Luckily I have a good TV so I can do fps interpolation.
"this is the definite version of Death Stranding"
Well, this aged well.
Welcome to the journey fellow Porters. Enjoy the ride, trek, and scale. You're in for quite an adventure
This is what I have been waiting for. Can't wait for the FF7 Remake port.
Just gotta chill out and enjoy the flow of PS exclusives, and also Halo Infinite's coming. FF7 Remake at 60 fps and above?? Hell yeahh.
@@Supernerd471 yeah my impression was that VIIr is hitting a memory budget that won't be an issue on PC
I hope anyway, the visuals were really disappointing
Same, you just remembered me how useless ps4 is lol
@@potatotablet727 the only Sony 1st party exclusive coming to PC is Horizion Zero Dawn every other Sony game that is already on PC or coming to PC a 3rd party timed exclusives
@@ghost656metal8 You also forgot Quantic Dream they are 100% Sony 1st party studio and they released all they PS3 and PS4 games recently on PC.
Seems like Sony needs to release all of their games on PC.
They will soon.
That's the road they seem to be taking, and if they do, there's close to no interest in owning a Playstation.
@@kaizenx68 no they wont..
I would luv to play spiderman, god of war and the tlou on pc
Laurent They’re latching Pc users onto Ps4 games so they want them more when ps5 comes around
I really want to see Vega and Radeon VII performance for this game. A GPU comparison with far more AMD GPUs than the 580 would be nice.
Nobody gives a shit about AMD GPUS
@@BnMProductions11 I do even though just got a laptop with i7 10750h and RTX 2060. It's always interesting to see comparisons. This game and Control has very good DLSS implementations.
@@BnMProductions11 You should if you don't want to pay even more for nVidia GPUs than they already cost.
@@Grand_Chase-vw2eu Ill give a shit when they become competitive, im not going to buy an inferior product. I have no problem buying AMD CPUs
Just get a 5700XT which will perform on par(usually better) than any Vega, let alone the 580
Had my time with the game and thoroughly enjoyed the calmness that it brings. One thing I hope to see is that inventory system be used in games in the future. Really changed the possibilities of inventory that can be managed
Well, for all of this (except LOD draw distance), we have reshade. Looking forward to fixing the shadows, or lack thereof, we have loads of better ambient occlusion options, AA and lighting effects.
Reshade unfortunately has some limitations that can make all those shaders useless. Main issue being fog and particle effects not working properly due to reshades position in the rendering pipeline.
@@ZalvaTionZ I know, reshade only has access to the final Z (depth) buffer, in effect making it only suitable for post processing. But some amazing things can be done there as well.
4:55
A strand-type A E S T H E T I C
I think Kojima have one of the best rendering engineers of the world, since metal gear phantom pain, in Fox engine, The game was incredible beautiful, with almost perfect faces rendering, with smooth FPS.
yep. love him and his games!
5:04 the moment I was waiting for...
This proves that Decima was ported solid to PC, and now can't wait for Horizon to launch on PC.
Prepare to be disappointed!
pepelaugh
Oof
Dude this was phenomenal, probably one of the best DF video's I've seen. A much more chill and awesome presentation style - and I mean this in a very complimentary way - by Alex with informative and genuinely eye-opening performance testing and results. Again, well done. Didn't feel 'overly biased' at all either, but still had that flex of his enthusiasm for PC, which is great! And it made it 10x better and more engaging to watch. Love this shit, haha.
Damn DLSS looks better than 4K, but all the AMD fanboys kept telling me that DLSS is just upscaling with sharpening 🙄🙄🙄
facts
That was a before dlss 2.0, dlss 1.0 was completely garbage.
Sooo... in other words.... SIXTEEN TIMES the Anisotropic filtering!
WOW, that's a lot! Kojima has done it yet again!
4 times the AF 4 to 16x
Good lord 😱....
4x actually, compared to standard PS4.
yeah 16x is still 16x tho. I know 4x4 is 16 lol. It was a joke referencing when Todd Howard said "16 times the detail" about fo76. I'll say it again cuz I'm sure there will be more comments telling me that my joke math isnt real math (even though if you read 16x, without referencing the ps4pro's 4x, it still says 16x) YES 4 TIMES FOUR IS 16, AND 16 IS NOT SIXTEEN TIMES 4. happy?
I'm expecting Death Stranding to find a larger, more enthusiastic audience on PC and this great port should certainly help with that
Yeah pc loves indie and unique games
@@Hhhh22222-w there is nothing indie about it.
And I really beg to differ, the PC community has been ripping on this since it was announced, see "walking simulator" on steam.
@@mememachine5244 Well, technically Kojima Productions is an independent studio. 😁 I believe Sony did finance most of the game though.
@@mememachine5244 Well, a lot of people who loved the game also labeled it as a "walking simulator". It doesn't always mean that it's an insult.
@@adamkallin5160 So there is nothing indie about it.
I was very much anticipating this game's release on PC. I hadn't realized that today was release day until I saw this video title. I started this video, watched maybe a couple minutes. Paused, went and bought the game. I'm super stoked to try this on my newish computer. Ryzen 7 3800X, 16gb 3000hz ram, RTX 2060 FE, 256gb m.2. I'll get flack for listing my specs. I did this so I can come back and update my comment with how it is running on my PC. :) Metrics! Also, thanks for another informative video DF!
4:55 - 5:08 Now slow it down even more with the playback settings and you can REALLY enjoy that motion animation XD.
This game is beautiful. I was very skeptical at first but after playing it im finding it refreshing from a game perspective.
Just to spare those with HDR monitors some time: the video is NOT in HDR.
Hey DF, I love your videos and your technical breakdowns. I love them even more when they are in HDR! Gotta justify this $1200 purchase somehow amirite? Would you mind recording in HDR more often when you do technical reviews of HDR games? I'd really like to see the implementation without purchasing the game.
youtube don’t support it boi
@@aaaaaahhh9537 Sure it does bro. DF has a whole playlist of HDR videos, though most are from a few years ago. You can only watch HDR in UA-cam though if you load it on Chrome and have HDR enabled in Windows Settings.
DLSS plus Ray Tracing are the future of gaming; funny how most people berated Nvidia almost 2 years ago when they launched Turing and Jensen say pretty much the same, and now just see AMD scrambling to feature-matching what Nvidia has had for years.
makes sense that they would implement it now that it's beginning to actually be useful.
well RTX is unavoidable... those GTX.. they won't be around long..
It's remarkable how reconstruction the image at a lower resolution is offering better visuals than a native resolution at much higher resolution, it's becoming more clear that DLSS 2.0 is becoming the killer feature to have and AMD needs it's own version for RDNA 2 gpu's, otherwise it would be a hard sell for many when Nvidia hardware can use a much more modest gpu and get better visuals and performance by using DLSS 2.0, it will also be interesting what the next gen consoles will have for reconstructing of the image.
If AMD's RDNA 2 gpu's on the PC or the next gen consoles don't have something like DLSS 2.0, that could be a costly mistake.
Stoked to see DF approaching 1mil subs. Well deserved.
Man high FPS is everything. It’s even more important than resolution. 60 FPS should be the lowest standard frame rate for next gen consoles and developers should consider this too. Think about it. You can’t clearly appreciate the graphics when the game is not running as smooth as 60 FPS!!!
PS4Pro owner here - I’m excited for everyone on PC to be able to play this game! Be aware that it does teach you to walk before you can run (literally) and at the start of the game even the smallest stream and hill is an obstacle... but over time you’ll be carving paths into the landscape and traversing it in a variety of ways so be patient and stick with it! I do hope that we see some of these improvements come to the PS5 as well!
13:17 “...I recommend leaving it on.
BUT, should your potato 🥔
be particularly old....”
-That burn and chuckle. 😂Get em. Get em! (Which is also me. For Im too broke to have a PC 😭)
A heads-up: 21:9 is broken. It shows up as 3360x1440 in the menu and results in black vertical bars on the sides of screen. 32:9 users are reporting the same problem. Used a hex edit to fix it, but pretty unbelievable considering how they touted UW support.
On my i7-6700k/1080ti @3440x1440p max settings (except for AA), I pretty much get a flawless 60fps 99% of the time. This game was really surprising. I didn’t think I was going to enjoy it, but it crept up on me and I wouldn’t play it again because of how slow it develops. But I can imagine this game is good for different people for different reasons. Bravo Kojima.
25:14 I'm happy to see the 1060 is still holding up in 2020. Can't wait to see how it performs in Cyberpunk 2077 and Halo Infinite.
Cyberpunk is going to be the new Crysis, I replaced my 1650 with a 2070 just in case, even then I'm still iffy about my 7700k.
@@TheBoostedDoge btw how's the 1650oc it's less is it less powerful than the rx570??? Both desktop version???
Cause I am building a budget pc and I need a budget GPU
@@anantsharma4003
Go for RX 580 or 1060 6GB / 1660s Bhai , better options than 1650.
If we can get a 1080p 50 fps for these 2 games, Ill be more than satisfied!
@@jeanlepage4264 Difference is, I can achieve much higher frames and a better longer-lasting experience with my 2080. Even though it may have been expensive at launch, it pays for itself by giving me high frames and some of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. Looking forward to the 3000 series. ;)
Great video as always Alex. What a cracking PC version this is, only disappointment is the relative lack of true scalability.
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ps4 pro settings and Alex's setting
*bump*
Pretty crazy to think that we've reached a point where native resolution is inferior, not only in terms of performance, but visually as well. Deep Learning is truly amazing.
Are you guys noticing the SSR in water reflections to look quite bad? Like "stands out from the rest of the presentation" level, low-res staircase edges kinda bad? I can't tell if there's a bug or something but it's very annoying, it's quite distracting from an otherwise very pretty game.
We're in the age of graphical prowess when we can literally split hairs for analysis. Think about that for a moment.
isn't the whole point that the hair shouldn't be split tho?
Dear heavens. How I wish we could get Bloodborne on PC. Even if just for 60 fps gameplay in high resolution.
How many PS4 exclusives came to PC?
@@karl343 Journey, Death Stranding, the Quantic Dreams PS trilogy (Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls, Detroit: Become Human), and Horizon: Zero Dawn.
@@samuelchurch5124 Nioh, Tetris Effect & flower were once exclusive too. There are other Sony published games too like Predator: Hunting Grounds. I only wish that Sony starts putting it's Ist party 'Exclusives' on PC after 2 yrs instead of never {To maintain the supposed value of HW via exclusivity}. If it is only a question of experiencing the game then there is PS now too i.e. if one can't afford the Hardware.
@@samuelchurch5124 and spyro
My body is ready! Im so excited for this tech review.
If anyone want the music from the beggining, it's "Stepping Stones" by Ludvig Forssell in the Death Stranding album.
And the one in the end is "Once, There Was an explosion" in the same album 😎
This game really does need to be played with high end HDR, if you can plug this into a great HDR tv, with 800-1400 ish nits brightness, do it. Looking forward to playing this again with 60+fps
Or oled
My 2060 is becoming an even more amazing investment by the day. I could probably do 8K 30 fps with DLSS 2.0 in this game using DSR and a custom resolution, just to see if it works.
Big oof for AMD and the people who said DLSS was never gonna work at 19:19
Same. My 2060 will outlive the competition if more games implement DLSS 2.0.
Much more so if the rumored upcoming DLSS 3.0 allows the option to be enabled on all games.
@@JoshhTW Im questioning that. Unless the 30 series cards have a lot more tensor cores than rumored. The reason its not enabled on all games, is there is a lot of pre-calculations done. Which requires you go through nvidia to get done. The amount of tensor cores on these things is enough to scale the image up WITH the pre-calculations. But to do them without requires a lot more than is reasonable to put on GPUs rn.
Don't expect support to be given to all games until we have TPUs.
"A toaster"? "A potato"? That's it, Alex, your Master Race license is suspended for two weeks!
I have been trying to tell people that DLSS 2.0 is one the greatest advancements in PC gaming ever. That technology is really crazy. Better looking and it runs much better thats just insane. That is where I think these next gen consoles will flounder. You can now buy an rtx 2060 and in a game that supports DLSS which pretty much all major ones will be going forward it will perform the same if not better than the next gen consoles. Just imagine even a 3060 which will be put within half a year of next gen consoles. It will absolutely destroy them with pretty much 2080 ti levels of performance in a $300ish card with DLSS on. A 3080ti with DLSS will literatly probably be x2 the performance of next gen consoles or more with DLSS.
I think people are starting to pay more attention since DLSS 2.0 came out, you really can't deny it works really well in every game that supports it
As PC is my primary platform for gaming I have a dirty little secret... I purchased the PS4 version at launch and used LG's "TruMotion"(Increases framerate and adds fake frames in between frames) and slowed down the camera rotation speed in game and it was STUNNING how well it mimicked 60fps. This only looks good on slow paced games such as Death Standing and you MUST slow down camera rotation speed or it will get very choppy. I also used it for God of War which yielded reasonable results.
You can get 1080p60 with a 1060 so I'm happy.
This was one of the most optimized games I have ever played
The graphical options to tweak is extremely sparse..I expected way more after MGS5.
There are only 1080p or 720p graphical options..can't even choose 900p which sucks.
"I expected way more after MGS5"
You do realise that game ran on a completely different engine that was built from the ground up for PC right?
I kept seeing comments for years about how framerate makes a huge difference and i never really use to listen but since i switched from console to a pc running games at 100-144hz is something truly special, albeit i'm just playing at sdr and 1080p.
I keep debating whether to switch to 1440p or even 1440p ultrawide, might get a RTX 3070 and take the plunge
1440 was a big and noticeable upgrade for me this year, still with a 2070 can play most things above 60 (except for Red Dead's insane settings) and some RTX games.
@@LarryB I'll look into it more this fall, maybe get a good deal on a mo itor around black Friday, that's when I built my pc and I got a really good build for a reasonable price.
1440p ultrawide 144hz is the best thing since sliced bread. Recently got myself a 34gn850 and can't even be bothered to play at 60 fps now.
DLSS 2.0 on my 2080 Super at 4K looks fantastic. I'm only playing on a 4K HDR10 60hz TV but I run it at 90+ FPS. I do see a lot of tearing due to the crappy TV so I'm enabling vsync when I play today. I can't imagine playing this at only 30FPS on a console.
I had to come here, cuz PCgamer failed to show us exactly what's new and better. Digital Foundry never fails when it comes to comparing games and showing us how good the tech behind the games is.
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I hereby declare that every PC game from now on must support DLSS 2.0. Heed my words, o' video game developers all round the world!
which mean every pc masterrace had to own a nvidia since it don't exisiting in AMD....
Finally PC players can now experience greatness
Indeed - Musihihime Sama available on Steam!
@AbsoluteMMA101 ya, I don't like when PC fanboys shit on Sony and playstation but still ask for PC ports of their exclusives, they should atleast have some decency to acknowledge the quality of PS exclusives
Great graphics, boring gameplay
I thought this game is trash no people praising it smh
If by greatness you mean a game were 80% of the experience consists of walking + watching cutscenes
I can't believe I just watch almost 28 minutes of rocky footage.
Shit, DLSS 2.0 is a thing of beauty! More perf + better IQ than native resolution. Win-win.
EDIT: and 5-6x increase in frame-rate over PS4 on a 6C Intel CPU is amazing to see. 21:03
The biggest disappointment I've had with the next gen consoles is the lack of dedicated hardware for DLSS-like features. While I'm really excited for raytracing I was even more surprised by DLSS and what a true gamechanger it has turned out to be.