24FA Class #3: Black Pride | Black American Culture Lecture

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  • @michaeljohnson4794
    @michaeljohnson4794 2 місяці тому +45

    Growing up in a 99.9% white area I never felt white pride or white privilege. We were at the lower end of the economic ladder and I felt that everyone else was more privileged than I was. It had nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with parents, choices, habits, and choices of friends.

  • @jecl8881
    @jecl8881 2 місяці тому +26

    we all need to stop segregating ourselves and accept with pride that we are all American citizens.

    • @mary-gael7633
      @mary-gael7633 2 місяці тому

      Happy or grateful, sure. But proud?

    • @jackiechilds8047
      @jackiechilds8047 Місяць тому

      ​@@mary-gael7633Yes proud. Leave if you aren't proud. Liberal cucks have choices, China, n Korea, Venezuela. Alternative any of the slave running states in Africa or the middle east.
      1 way tickets are cheap

    • @dranderson6071
      @dranderson6071 Місяць тому

      @@jecl8881 Are there any whites only schools? Now replace white with black. Different answer sadly

    • @Apriluser
      @Apriluser Місяць тому +1

      @@mary-gael7633
      Grateful.

    • @AnikaAder
      @AnikaAder Місяць тому +1

      @@mary-gael7633 yes, proud that we are one of the least racist countries on the planet and we have some of the best economic opportunity here. There are certainly things to not be proud of like slavery but I am proud that my country ended this practice. No country or people group is perfect.

  • @s0ulwind
    @s0ulwind 2 місяці тому +12

    If you listen to a lot of the activists, black pride absolutely is about the color. the cultural aspects are secondary.

  • @parker9012
    @parker9012 2 місяці тому +22

    I find the whole "black Americans don't know where their ancestors are from" argument as really odd. Isn't that true for most white americans too? It is for me.

    • @jimbobsmith2496
      @jimbobsmith2496 2 місяці тому

      Absolutely, that is a very poor cop out. All of us are Americans, unless you were born in Germany, Italy, France, etc. you have no idea what it is like to be from that nation. Every one of us is oblivious to our ancestry even those that have parades and week long events as most of those have an American spin to it.

    • @buschlattes7066
      @buschlattes7066 2 місяці тому +1

      You don't know where your grandparents are from??

    • @parker9012
      @parker9012 2 місяці тому +3

      @buschlattes7066 yah, I mean there from the American South. But I've got no idea what European countries there ancestors are from. Is that not normal?
      That's my adopted grandparents, btw. I couldn't even tell you the names of my birth grandparents.

  • @bludragon47
    @bludragon47 2 місяці тому +2

    What an engaging professor. I really love the perspective he brings out in each person.

  • @asmodeus5326
    @asmodeus5326 2 місяці тому +37

    You should just be proud of the person you are that encompasses everything I think when you start to attach the pride on race/color that's when your start drifting into that hate territory.

    • @Speedkid
      @Speedkid 2 місяці тому +2

      Liberalism's Bedrock Assumptions
      It is individualistic at its core. It assumes that the individual takes precedence over the social group.
      It assumes that individuals cannot reach universal agreement over first principles.
      I don't think that you can equate Pride of Black history with hate. It is an expression of resistance to the socialized stereotypes that Black people have no history and have made no contribution to history. It is not an expression of supremacy. It is a declaration of resistance to degradation. IMHO

    • @-----GOD-----
      @-----GOD----- 2 місяці тому +3

      @Speedkid Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as though you just described the reasoning of a white supremacist.

    • @clap5108
      @clap5108 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Speedkid I don't think it embodies hate at all. The truth is some black people do feel ashamed of their culture and this movement is to combat those feelings.

    • @asmodeus5326
      @asmodeus5326 2 місяці тому

      @@-----GOD----- I'm not exactly sure what you mean?

    • @doggyhouz
      @doggyhouz 2 місяці тому

      The commentor sounds like he suggest culture is not important. Race and culture goes hand in hand.

  • @gregb1106
    @gregb1106 2 місяці тому +3

    We need more education like this.
    1:04 summarizes exactly how I feel about all forms of color/culture based PRIDE. It doesn't matter what the term means, it matters what the term says, the fact that the term is exclusionary and creates division. Pride is a sense of satisfaction from personal/family achievement.

  • @netzel6723
    @netzel6723 2 місяці тому +12

    about damn time, i've missed this class

  • @hollymontgomery88
    @hollymontgomery88 2 місяці тому +1

    Really enjoy watching these classes!

  • @stephenmcnamara8318
    @stephenmcnamara8318 2 місяці тому +6

    I love the attendance requirement and daily quiz
    In Germany universities are very attendance optional, with the entire grade being based on the final - and I just cannot understand how that could be desirable for anyone involved

    • @jorikschnee9712
      @jorikschnee9712 2 місяці тому +1

      I see the advantage for you. only an idea: you are right. but this is university. student is connected to studere. you have the opportunity to go to vorlesung and seminar. it is your life and you decide when you go. plus education is cheap and you learn how to manage your life and its balance. you learn best in classes? GO!

  • @jimmock1155
    @jimmock1155 2 місяці тому +18

    Weird. I have never felt pride in my race or ethnic background. I just don’t feel it.

    • @Speedkid
      @Speedkid 2 місяці тому +5

      Black pride refers to a movement and a mindset that celebrates and affirms the beauty, culture, and identity of Black people, particularly in response to centuries of systemic racism, oppression, and marginalization. It is a declaration of self-love, self-worth, and self-acceptance, acknowledging the rich heritage and contributions of Black people to human history.

    • @DD-st5rh
      @DD-st5rh 2 місяці тому

      Ditto for white pride... White people were oppressed for centuries.

    • @mr.mclibtard5015
      @mr.mclibtard5015 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Speedkid🙄

    • @yusufgerald3969
      @yusufgerald3969 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Speedkidlike no written languages on the entire continent of africa?

    • @ajunteburns6894
      @ajunteburns6894 Місяць тому

      ​@@yusufgerald3969spoken like a true baconskin 😂

  • @charlieinabox1164
    @charlieinabox1164 2 місяці тому +8

    All group pride is dangerous in my opinion and leads to oppression of “others”. Individual pride is ok.

    • @johnanderson9403
      @johnanderson9403 2 місяці тому +3

      Individual pride is the only form of pride that should exist unless you are talking about national pride. Pride in your hometown or country is ok but pride in your race is weird because it is connected to things you are not responsible for.

  • @dranderson6071
    @dranderson6071 2 місяці тому +25

    Does the term white pride offend you? Then so should black pride. Cheers

    • @princeniyikiza699
      @princeniyikiza699 2 місяці тому +1

      By your logic, should Latino pride be offensive too

    • @jimbobsmith2496
      @jimbobsmith2496 2 місяці тому +4

      @@princeniyikiza699if white pride is offensive, then pride in any racial term is also offensive. If it is racist to think about, to be proud of, to defend white pride, then it is racist to do the same thing with every other race.

    • @ajunteburns6894
      @ajunteburns6894 Місяць тому +1

      @dranderson6071 spoken like a true baconskin 😂

    • @dranderson6071
      @dranderson6071 Місяць тому

      @@ajunteburns6894 You’re a racist

    • @dranderson6071
      @dranderson6071 Місяць тому +2

      @@ajunteburns6894 Remember this. A vote for the Democrats is a vote to keep the chains on. Good luck

  • @ajunteburns6894
    @ajunteburns6894 Місяць тому +2

    Black Pride = Proud of my Black African-American History, Pro black pan African about the f future of our people [socially, politically, and economically].

  • @kcllyy
    @kcllyy Місяць тому

    It’s really exciting to see professors discussing these questions in an academic setting. I’d love to hear a discussion on how to tell the difference between a belief that is based on peer influence and one that is based on independent reasoning. And can any thought be truly independent of outside influence?

  • @PennyBanhart
    @PennyBanhart 2 місяці тому +6

    I don't understand being proud of something you didn’t do. I am white, a female, born in the USA. I am not proud of that. I am grateful . I am proud of my 40-year marriage because my husband and I worked on our marriage.

  • @samjohnsonyt
    @samjohnsonyt 2 місяці тому +4

    its so weird having watched so many of these to see the more personal side dr richards, watching initially

  • @cinnamon451
    @cinnamon451 2 місяці тому +6

    I'm not white but damn white people have done a lot of good things too and just as Black has done good things and bad things People are people there's some good there's some bad that's it😊

  • @kerry-579
    @kerry-579 2 місяці тому +8

    Think about your words, don’t say white pride. Does any other race or culture have to watch their words on pride? One day people will realize we are all one family, the human family. And culture is great and should be celebrated but we have to restore and reconcile everyone back to the good graces of society and not continually shone and punish and oppress people because their ancestors were bad. We should not be punished for the sins of our fathers, especially if we do not behave like them.

    • @anantea
      @anantea 2 місяці тому +1

      On top of that, every nation struggled at some points of a history and also did something horrible to someone else. Most white people had ancestors that suffered as peasants and worked for nobility and royals. Almost like slavery. And some white ancestors were literally a slaves for Arabs, Turks and some other white tribes. Most of white people had to overcome poverty too. It is not like we all are descenders from royals.

    • @mortekaieve4729
      @mortekaieve4729 24 дні тому

      @@anantea Whites were also sold as slaves in Africa and Asia as well, not just to other whites, Arabs and Moors. Every race of people was a slave to just about every other group of people at one point or another. Some whites captured by Native Americans were also enslaved and forced to work or die. It was just a fact of life for everyone on earth.

  • @marirooney9910
    @marirooney9910 2 місяці тому +22

    **Cleopatra & MANY Egyptian royalty were GREEK ancestry---people didn't judge race/ancestry

    • @candal105
      @candal105 2 місяці тому +2

      Only the latest dynasties. Most of egyptian royalty was probably fully african.

    • @mr.mclibtard5015
      @mr.mclibtard5015 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@candal105 cope

    • @Clearcup
      @Clearcup 2 місяці тому +2

      **probably

    • @stuffguy6664
      @stuffguy6664 2 місяці тому

      @@candal105 most where or a levant origin actually the ''majority'' most of ancient egytians wheree far more related to modern day levantine peoples arabs jews druze etc..

  • @mathewm7136
    @mathewm7136 2 місяці тому

    Prof Bro!!
    Great class and Thank you .

  • @cinnamon451
    @cinnamon451 2 місяці тому +1

    It would be so much fun to be a part of this conversation over there It would be so much fun😊

  • @romans8an1
    @romans8an1 Місяць тому

    This conversation is really great. It would have yielded greater results if the participants truly knew the history in this country that created the statement 'Black Pride'.
    One truth is that because in this country EVERYTHING that pertained to being of African 'Black' descent was deemed Evil, Ugly, Distasteful and or Subhuman by 'White' people, then WE 'Black' people fought to make everything 'Black' Beautiful, Strong, Intelligent and just something to take pride in.
    Historically as Black people we were demonized in a way that it taught and created self hate. We fought to reverse that lie, Black Pride! So yes in a way it is a racial thing because it was born out of racial hatred towards us but it is also Cultural just like Noor stated, because of the culture, we have created with such opposition.

  • @-----GOD-----
    @-----GOD----- 2 місяці тому +18

    "BlacKKK pride," is what I hear.
    The correlation is eerie.

    • @lokimsjrrd3451
      @lokimsjrrd3451 2 місяці тому +3

      To compare the two, you must be extremely dishonest or absolutely uninformed.
      White pride has historically been utilised as a rallying cry for racist actions that have caused significant devastation and global consequence. You can't blame fringe groups either, because this phrase was popular no less than 50 years ago and was freely used by the majority of white society; now it's presumably uttered behind closed doors with the original idea in mind.
      Black pride has never been about the denigration of other people, cultures, or groups, and was purely formed as a response to uplift black people in a highly hostile environment, and as a counter to the "white pride" that often harms black people.

    • @-----GOD-----
      @-----GOD----- 2 місяці тому +3

      @@lokimsjrrd3451
      Wow! You know how to look at those two terms through a historical lens.
      How honest it is of you in 2024 to compare 1950's black pride to today's black pride, and 1850's white pride to today's white pride. I don't know if you've been informed yet, but this is 2024, not the centuries that came before. Things have changed, if you haven't noticed.

    • @jimbobsmith2496
      @jimbobsmith2496 2 місяці тому

      @@lokimsjrrd3451and you and your statement is 100% racist. The shear fact that you can have pride in skin color, which means that you find the level of melanin to be superior, is the very definition of racism. Not one single American that was not born in their “native” country has any clue what it means to be from that country.
      As for your claim that blacks don’t attack others in their racial background, answer a simple question, can blacks be racist against whites? That answer is yes. We see it every single day, we see it in your response. You want to completely destroy any pride in white society, why? How are you not degrading someone because of something outside of their control?

    • @gillmsnfillman1691
      @gillmsnfillman1691 2 місяці тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@jimbobsmith2496 You have fun arguing against the straw-man you’ve created.

    • @ajunteburns6894
      @ajunteburns6894 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@-----GOD-----😂calm down k-k-k-olonizer, you know and I know you people are famous for lynching and setting laws into place to benefit yourself for centuries so black pride and what your k-k-k-olonizer people did is a false analogy.

  • @geraldwilkerson5703
    @geraldwilkerson5703 14 днів тому +2

    I don't give a rats about your rationalization. If you think it's okay to have pride for your race, then it applies to everyone. If it is wrong for anyone, it is wrong for everyone.

  • @BDub2024
    @BDub2024 2 місяці тому +5

    Is Black pride any different to white pride or asian pride... is gay pride any better than hetero pride? How about a united national pride in UK or USA or France etc... something collective where everyone feels part of something and can be united with others in the community for a common goal. How about more bringing people together instead of encouraging division in community. More importantly how about pride human race in general. Instead of constantly telling each other that humans are bad and destroy the world.

    • @mary-gael7633
      @mary-gael7633 2 місяці тому +3

      As his wife said: it's about a collective struggle.. which is not relevent anymore when the collective struggle is over.

  • @thanatophoric
    @thanatophoric 2 місяці тому +5

    start at 30:23 if you have no time/desire for preamble

  • @terrycanada3978
    @terrycanada3978 2 місяці тому +4

    If someone says Caucasian pride, (European descent) would that be offensive?

    • @asmodeus5326
      @asmodeus5326 2 місяці тому

      @@terrycanada3978 I had thought about that myself and what I kept coming back to is colonizer, slave owner and so on I think any pride in being white no matter how you say it will some how get twisted into some way racist

    • @lokimsjrrd3451
      @lokimsjrrd3451 2 місяці тому

      Yes simply because the history behind that word and how it's used to today is about being hostile to other groups. Blame racist whites for making it that way.

    • @tragicallyhoney
      @tragicallyhoney 2 місяці тому

      It’s a jealous inferior mentality, in need of white approval to feel at the same level as wyte people. But there’s no level to begin with we’re all made equal.

    • @mightisright
      @mightisright 2 місяці тому

      You are what you do. Take pride in your good works and deeds. No one alive built the pyramids, discovered electricity, invented the printing press or thousands of others things that came before us. The same is true of endless atrocities in history by every tribe of people that ever lived.

    • @diabeticdave7840
      @diabeticdave7840 Місяць тому

      @@asmodeus5326 It still confuses me to this day about the salvery guilt being put soley on white cultures.
      Every single culture throughout history has made use of salvery; bought and sold slaves or simply taken people. Most slavery has been carried out between African tribes and cultures, the Middle East, and Asia. The only civilisation that decided to try and put an end to it was Britain, with a campaign led by William Wilberforce. People do not speak about this man enough.

  • @anantea
    @anantea 2 місяці тому +1

    1:07:50 I miss follow up question here. He said it took him 10 years to become a part of African-American culture, but before that he said that black pride is not about skin color, that it is about that experience with slavery and Middle Passage. So then what he meant, when he said he become a part of African-American?
    He didn't changed history of his ancestor's experience, so then it is about skin colour, and mabye some other things, like clothes, music, and not about actual history? I wish Sam would ask him to explain what he meant saying he become a part of African-American culture.

  • @zzz-nu2re
    @zzz-nu2re 2 місяці тому +3

    39:05
    Professor: "So like, what do you mean by being proud to be black, like what are you proud about being of the black race exactly"
    Proud black: 🤷🏿‍♀️ the community that black ppl built?
    😂 nice

    • @JakeC-xx8zq
      @JakeC-xx8zq 2 місяці тому +1

      But why be proud of that?

  • @hollynonya6991
    @hollynonya6991 16 днів тому +1

    To the Belarusian guy
    Slavic Pride , and escaping communism

  • @iand654456
    @iand654456 2 місяці тому +2

    So I don't understand but let's try this comment again, I think if you personally as a professor do not want digital devices used during class there are a lot of options available other than politely asking students every single class. If it's happening every class that suggests there's a problem.

    • @EneldoSancocho
      @EneldoSancocho 2 місяці тому +3

      Maybe being called out in public can make them more aware of their own behavior.

  • @samurachi420
    @samurachi420 2 місяці тому

    What would a person from Liberia think about "black power" and black culture in America

  • @markpettersson6824
    @markpettersson6824 2 місяці тому +3

    black pride is at least partially about proud of being black. This lecture is gaslighting

    • @NottABlack
      @NottABlack 2 місяці тому

      😂but you're not black, you're brown, have you seen a mirror? ☻

    • @ajunteburns6894
      @ajunteburns6894 Місяць тому

      ​@@NottABlackso then why did your people go around classifying us as black? After all you made that racist system🤡🤡🤡

  • @charlieinabox1164
    @charlieinabox1164 2 місяці тому +2

    1:01:40 dude taking a nap

  • @jamesmanuel9938
    @jamesmanuel9938 2 місяці тому

    Do a DNA test to see your heritage, that is mind opening. I did and was amazed what I found out.

  • @Bambino_60
    @Bambino_60 Місяць тому

    Count how many times these people say “like”. The system has failed them educationally.

  • @malissiajones7761
    @malissiajones7761 2 місяці тому

    I wonder if any of these kids know the word race originally referred to one's place of origin and not their color.

  • @jamesestelle7260
    @jamesestelle7260 8 днів тому

    5:48 Wow, she looks half her age. At first, I thought she was a past student.

  • @avengemybreath3084
    @avengemybreath3084 Місяць тому

    It’s the same thing as wyt pride.

  • @stuffguy6664
    @stuffguy6664 2 місяці тому

    pride should come from achievements not random chance of genetics..

  • @churchofsausageology4770
    @churchofsausageology4770 2 місяці тому

    I hate when people whistle at me, I'm not a dog

  • @princeniyikiza699
    @princeniyikiza699 2 місяці тому

    I am proud to be black. Though the world has made a trenden improvements in racial division, there is still a lingering sense of anti blackness/ black culture. For example: what it means to present yourself formally(speaking, hair, etc) which may influence how young black people may see themselves.
    Black love is a form of self confidence and love of your culture and background.

    • @jimbobsmith2496
      @jimbobsmith2496 2 місяці тому +2

      What culture? We are all Americans, either we have 1 culture or we will forever be segregated. And while you might think there is world wide hatred for your ancestors, there is significantly more for mine as a Jewish man. The belief that any of us have a different culture needs to end. If you are an American your culture needs to be of the giant melting pot that we are supposed to be.

  • @eelmohamed
    @eelmohamed 2 місяці тому

    Black pride? Does it refer to black rainbow people? 🤔😁

  • @Apriluser
    @Apriluser 2 місяці тому

    I have never been proud of being white. Not ever. I have been proud of my family, some of my personal accomplishments, being an American, etc. Never my ethnicity. Never.

  • @ldenorio
    @ldenorio 2 місяці тому +1

    tell people to not tap on or blow into the mic, it is not good for it, also there is still slavery in the U.S., not sure why we would celebrate nationally Juneteenth

    • @nesmith2621
      @nesmith2621 2 місяці тому +3

      Can you give an example of slavery in the U.S.?

    • @randomamerican471
      @randomamerican471 2 місяці тому +1

      @@nesmith2621
      It's called the Thirteenth Amendment exception. That has been exploited by democrats benefitting from prisoner labor on road crews, corporate farms, etc. Through their prison leasing program. For instance Bill and Hillary Clinton had prison laborers at the governor's mansion for cleaning, cooking, serving, grounds upkeep and the like. Hillary wrote in her book that she preferred older black prisoners with long sentences.
      “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” Article XIII, February 1,1865
      blogs.loc.gov/inside_adams/2021/06/convict-leasing-system/

    • @Ellaloveslofi
      @Ellaloveslofi 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@nesmith2621 Human trafficking.

    • @charlieinabox1164
      @charlieinabox1164 2 місяці тому +1

      I stand corrected after a bit of research. i’ll agree that there is slavery happening in the prison system.

    • @mary-gael7633
      @mary-gael7633 2 місяці тому

      @@nesmith2621 in US's prisons, it's not been banned from prisons which sounds wild, from abroad.

  • @Myraisins1
    @Myraisins1 2 місяці тому +1

    Black in the USA is not just race, it is an ethnicity.

    • @awr2024
      @awr2024 2 місяці тому +6

      So is white and Asian

  • @Juze81
    @Juze81 2 місяці тому +3

    This puerto rican girl is incredibly beautiful. ❤

  • @darrellscott2483
    @darrellscott2483 2 місяці тому

    My God, this was boring

  • @ajunteburns6894
    @ajunteburns6894 Місяць тому

    The amount of YT ppl here crying with their yt fragility card is funny

  • @jackiechilds8047
    @jackiechilds8047 Місяць тому +1

    1:11:08 Prof turns into an ABC moderator to lead a student to a response.
    Btw - the kid came from Liberia (his ancestors were slaves) to the US but this class wants him to be an ex slave

  • @jackiechilds8047
    @jackiechilds8047 Місяць тому +2

    56:50 "black culture" is only about skin. Rich blacks at PSU and poor blacks at a PS Mount Alto have nothing in common (culturally - cars, house $, job prospects) but skin color.
    "Black Americans" have made up shared history- none of them know whose family was a slaver, or a slave or both in Africa.
    Probably 90% of blacks do not believe white people ended slavery in the US, civil war or the ebonic version, Juneteenth.
    That is American pride. blacks refuse to accept history

    • @ajunteburns6894
      @ajunteburns6894 Місяць тому

      😂shows you know very little about black culture. Imagine your people making race your entire history and then wanting everybody else to eradicate it after a certain point you should have never started it

  • @muzakaz
    @muzakaz 2 місяці тому +1

    SO THE PANEL WAS CHANGED FOR VARYING OUTCOMES. THIS WILL BE SOME FORM OF WASHED, PERHAPS.

    • @charlieinabox1164
      @charlieinabox1164 2 місяці тому

      Use time stamps and less capitals and maybe someone will take you seriously. Otherwise you may as well be a bot.

  • @muzakaz
    @muzakaz 2 місяці тому +5

    PROFESSOR ISN'T DOING HIS JOB, HE'S SLOW WALKING THE CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED PROBLEMS

  • @muzakaz
    @muzakaz 2 місяці тому +1

    BUT SHE DIDN'T COME FROM THE SLAVE CULTURE HERE IN AMERICA.

  • @muzakaz
    @muzakaz 2 місяці тому +2

    SOC 119 SHOULD RENOUCE THE SHODDY SCHOLARSHIP OF HOWARD ZINN IN ALL LEVELS OF THE PUBLIC EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.