I think that you need to invite more people from other parts of the world to share their views. Sergei had a new opinions about those topic just because he wasn't raised in America. You could also do a episode of spectrum with people from the same race, but different countries/continets (like 4 people from US and 4 from EU)
No because then I wouldn’t be primairly about white va black. U shoukd try to minimize external differences to know the differences between the 2 groupss
@@koenjoosten182 But then you're only talking about a small group of people, when there is a whole world of people out there. Black people from Africa would see the race completly different then black people from US, and I think that we should talk about those differences, and learn from each other. Or if you don't want to learn then at least see it as a cool comparison.
2 prompt earlier Sarah: In Japan I wouldn't be allowed to eat at certain restaurants cause im white Prompt: Have I been denied access because of my race. Sarah: Strongly Disagree.
@@CoochSmoochThe root of the problem is generalizing certain behaviors and characteristics done by the few onto the entire group but if y’all wanna excuse what they do then go off ig
Her response to the second prompt explained that decision. She very clearly stated she was taking only her day to day life into account for that prompt, so I assume she means in the U.S. she does not experience being denied access.
"Hawaii is stolen land. Land that was stolen by white people." ...Native Americans exist. All the white people on mainland America are walking on land that was stolen from Natives, by white people. Hawaii was just stolen slightly more recently.
no, this was actually one of the most mature episodes of spectrum, let alone with no malice energy and full understanding from every side? such a rare occurrence lol
For real 😂 I was expecting total chaos making me mad like a lot of other Jubilee episodes. But both the video and the comments are making respectful, understanding and logical points.
It's such a hot topic that someone is going to be submissive and we know *who* so there is little to no malice involved. If you bring out people who doesn't care what X thinks then it's a completely different story but as this is shot in America(I assume?) it's going to be pretty straight forward. If you were to bring this up with certain white young adults in UK(for example) it would be a *very* different discussion as they're completely insane and borderline dangerous people with radical views.
I don't believe her, she's younger than me and likely had more exposure to social media, she has seen whites for as long as she can remember from doctors to media personnel. She's trying to be funny.
@@LOSTGPS I don’t think she meant it literally. She was probably saying that to add emphasis on the fact that there was no white people at her school at the time. We are here 6 minutes after Jubilee posted this 23 minute video. You didn’t see enough of the video to make that judgment
@@4thTribeJudith "clearly you didnt watch the whole video" duh, it was posted 7 minutes ago and its 23 minutes long. Can you count? Edit: you changed your original comment because you realized the time didnt match your statement.
The Republican black guy hit the nail on the head with the prompt on being proud of your race. No one should be ashamed of their race because of the transgressions of people who share the same skin color. But should be taken into consideration when discussing various institutions as far as policies and social programs go.
Why should White people be proud of being White? What is there to be proud of? If you shouldn't be ashamed based on the transgressions of your race, then what should you be proud of?
He actually stated more about ethnicity than race, which is an improvement for him. He stated be proud of the ethnic lineage (if it's worthy), but to be proud to be white is a bit weird, considering the history. Xavaier surprised me in this video. He was a lot more open-minded and relatable.
I’m a southern white girl. If I walk into a meeting talking like a hillbilly, I will definitely not be taken seriously. But around my family I definitely use more country slang. I do not doubt the code switching happens for people who amongst different groups to try to fit in.
Im mexican and Native American Apache mixed i understand you since i had to always consider my accent. Btw you rednecks and hillbillies are cool i have friends that are.
@@Nymeria64it’s not silly. I think you confirmed the comment actually. I can use a lot of county/southern slang that is normal in the day to day , but if I need to compose an email to the CEO of my hospital, I’m aware of my language and grammar.
@@ck2a of course, a lot of people code switch when in a professional environment. I change the way I speak and type whenever I am at work than how I would in my day to day, or how I would talk at a non-professional job. That’s why I thought the comment was silly, a lot of people code switch. It’s not just one race or one dialect
Every single person code switch. Everyone adapts to how they act or talk based on contests. You can have people who slurs every two words at home be the most polite as possible at work because they deal with people. Said that, this argument had nothing to do with the question it was asked, which was specific on race.
You mean the girl regurgitating revisionist definitions? Don’t worry, bud. You can hold on to the idea that white people can’t be racist so you can keep your victim card :)
LOVE that they distinguished "proud to be white" vs "proud to be white ethnicity". And it was PERFECTLY PUT. Be proud to be Greek! Slavic! German! Italian! But white isn't a collective identity like Black Americans were forced to construct.
@@marinhristozov1832By choice, not by force-and they never had to get rid of their cultural/ethnic traditions. The fact that indigenous Native Americans had to fight to even have their cultural/ethnic traditions on their own land is wild.
The island in Hawaii they referenced (Niʻihau) is privately owned. The general population cannot go there without permission, aside from the native population who were already living there at the time of purchase.
Also, with that, they’ve have now opened up helicopter trips to that island to the general public. It’s just a designated area in which they will not be able to interact with the native population currently there. That being said, I think it’s amazing that the Robinson family has kept a place specific to the Native Hawaiian population as the islands were illegally overthrown in 1893 and to this day remains occupied lands.
Yes even if im hawaiian I still cannot go there without permission. I'd have to have family ties to that land or be invited by someone who's from there
I feel like the overall dialogues we are having and everything is feeling so much lighter and respectable this year. Loving the shift in positive attitude 😊
Civil yeah but I feel like this is only respectable if you’re black since they just pandered to the black ppl the entire video and discredited and said bad things about white people
I feel like they chose the wrong people, these debates should be between people with different views, while this whole video was them basically all agreeing with each other.
@@shardrocker-b9n The Ukrainian definitely didnt have similar views to the rest, and frankly he said some very ignorant stuff, yet no one jumped on him and acted reactionary but rather had a conversation w/ him and tried to understand his viewpoint.
Human race will always find a way to be superior than others and is not just colors. Black africans had slave other black africans as well. Division it comes in all spectrums. East vs west, US vs China, Nazy vs Jews many more examples
I appreciate how everyone actively listened to each others comments and didn't tear each other down over perspectives. For example, even after some people mentioned their political views they were stilled listened too.
It was so nice to see how patient every one was with Sergei’s language barrier and how they were so kind and understanding when explaining different concepts to him ❤❤
I don't think there was a language barrier, he can perfectly understand and speak English. He just has different views and a different experience on the topic because he's from a place where it is rare to see black people.
@@biasantos1405 no he definitely has a language barrier. he even said colored people instead of people of color, clearly out of ignorance not deliberately. I was touched by how nobody jumped on his throat for the way he worded things because if a regular American said them... oof
@@VoVina111As someone who’s a “person of color“ I dislike both because it sounds like we are grouping people to white and “other”. But why the term colored has a bad connotation in the U.S.? It sounds the same as the term person of color anyways.
Exactly makes no sense. She just said she was banned from a restaurant in Japan for being white 😂😂 Also people kept confusing what is happening vs how they feel about it. The white girl said yes she is denied access to places, but kept trying to explain shes ok with it. They said yes its racist to have dating preferences, but its ok if youre black and dont want to date someone white. Like they were confused
Typically if a spot in Japan denies you it’s because you’re not Japanese, not that you’re a certain race or color. Korea on the other hand, will deny you based on color alone
If we REALLY talk it will expose a particular people and their pathology, we have to toe-the-line and play safe. Those people will get EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE AND SEND AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF THREATS because they can't handle the truth.
@@-ucanthandledatruth01-12 true true trueee it can be impossible to have these conversations without safety. It sucks how hateful people can still be in 2024.
@@boomeradley8748 My bro, you still don't understand lol, that's ok though we have been miseducated for a purpose, but as bros (I assume you are black), you saying 'how hateful people can still be in 2024' is actually quite ridiculous, a pathology or mental illness doesn't just reduce or disappear because of what year it is lol. They have a pathology and we have been made ignorant to misunderstand it, which leads to more exploitation and abuse. They will never stop being hateful, but looking at it as hate is too simplistic and doesn't give us clear understanding with depth. We will remain silent or toeing-the-line because as long as they dominate us (no matter what year it is) they will never handle the truth they themselves have given us the burden to keep secret for them will remain, it's an abusive relationship but they hate being given the details of their abuse, yet they depend on the abuse, but don't ant you to speak as though you are abused so they can enjoy their reality as though they aren't who they are.
@@boomeradley8748 I actually typed out an in-depth response about your confusion regarding what the year is an their mentality and also the manipulation of racism/w.supremacy/eurocentrism, with absolutely no disrespect or negativity, even referred to you as bro....and they deleted the comment lol. Do you think they are trying to contain crucial information about their warfare or social order?
As a black person, i completely feel sorry for the Ukrainian person who felt like he had to say everything is racist just to feel safe in the environment he was in
This is one of the most contentious episodes of Spectrum I've ever seen with many guests challenging the other side... yet it was also incredibly respectful and friendly. Truly amazing to see.
"It's racist to not be sexually attracted to a different race". It just feels like this prompt was danced around. I don't think anyone said anything directly related to it. I wouldn't know their stances if it wasn't for where they stood (agree/disagree).
@@biker3762 see the nuance with the question is that you may unknowingly hold some bias against black girls (just like you may unknowingly hold some bias for latinas) besides appearance. this is why I don't think the prompt can truly 100% be answered. maybe if you've had experience with both races and found black girls just didn't spark like latinas did, then it's better answered. Personally when I see someone's appearance, I immediately try to figure out what their personality is like, but that may just be me. Either way, attraction isn't solely looks/appearance, so it's not easy to answer in my opinion.
@@nancywinner I get your point on the personality but for me to like a girl she needs to have personality and look attractive to me i beleive you some black irls will have great personalties but i just dont find them attractive to date to be best freidns of course it's not a debate it's an personal preference like a se a latina y find her hot a black girl i dont not saying personality but looks wise is something ic anrt agree on unfornatley
The dude in the white button up was the most rationally minded. I was so happy when he made the obvious point that you act different at work because you’re expected to act more proper in that environment, period. Anyone of any race is expected to act proper at work.
The one who said systemic racism isn’t a thing (factually incorrect) & that Affirmative action benefits black people more than anyone (factually incorrect)?
Lol, no he isn't rational minded. You just agree with what he says. That "proper" discourse is very problematic. Ik you've heard the other points he made as well.
Mentioning Hawaii from this video is refreshing in a way because at least there are people that know and are considerate of the island. Knowledge is power and for some people to know the history of my people and it’s past is just ugh thank you. It’s just so much appreciation where I’m coming from😭
We were literally taught how the Queen of Hawaii was held at gunpoint in high school, US History to be exact. That story is as popular as Rosa Parks', MLK's, JFK's, etc.
I'm Chinese, born and raised in Germany. It took me a while to realise, that my pediatrician was an Afro-American. When I was young, I could only differentiate between people who spoke Chinese and people who don't, because that was my first language and the only thing, that my fellow citizens and I did not have in common. Later on I learned that there are many different kinds of cultures. I'm happy my parents didn't tell me what race means. Although they were very traditional, we have never put people into boxes.
That’s an amazing privilege I feel when you’re black you’re taught very young for safety or because you experience racism from somewhere or someone really young I remember being five and these kids were just telling innocent jokes but all of a sudden the non black kid tells the black kid atleast I’m not black and me and the other black kid were so confused as to why this kid thought that was a problem
@@spongebobcirclepants3843 Which is why I advocate for segregation! Segregation would ensure us as Africans [Blacks] aren't being called racial slurs, spit on, thrown bananas at, or called the police on for breathing.
This was a great group.. definitely could have been 20-30 minutes longer.. or bring them back.. both sides were very understanding and engaging.. great job!!!!
No it was abhorrent, white ppl who aren't proud of their race are cringe af, nobody chooses their race. You cant be proud of who you are without being proud of your race, other people actions in the past dont make who people are today, if that were the case, anyone of African descent should hate being black because their own people SOLD THEM!
Great group because they bashed on white guys and demanded white guilt plus black folks said that they're proud of some culture. Yeah I get it why it was satisfying for you :)
As a Native, saying white people are “justifiably denied access” to things like pow-wows is silly. I’ve been to an exclusively native pow-wow maybe one time and let me tell you: almost nobody was there. Being outright denied access and having an event that showcases and celebrates another race’s pride aren’t the same thing. If you’re a non-Native, I encourage you to check if public pow-wows are happening near you. :)
Thank you for educating me on this! I love learning about other people, their cultures, and their traditions. So I’ll definitely see what’s open to the public near me! 😊
I've had a different experience. I'm mixed, and grew up and live on a reservation, and I've been denied many things many times because my blood isn't pure enough. I have to have a special ID in order to step foot off the main highway in my own homeland, the only one I've ever known. I get along with everyone just fine as well, so that's not the issue. I've been stopped and escorted back on to the highway for daring to try to go into the mountains. It's like, "Gus, you know me. You sang at my grandad's funeral, the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced, so why are you treating me like this?"
In Europe "white" isn't really an identity and I think the same can be said of being "black" here. Every single "black" person who lives in the UK is an immigrant or the descendants of immigrants from Nigeria or Ghana etc and the focus tends to be on Nigerian culture etc as well as the British culture they assimilate into.
Yeah, he just got it mixed up, and he doesn’t really understand America and our history/growth. He’s proud to be Ukrainian, and to him being white and Ukrainian are on in the same.
He was confused he was proud to be Ukrainian which is a specific culture, but white really isn't. No one thinks being proud of being Irish, German, French, Swedish, etc. is bad because it makes sense. If someone says they are proud to be French you can think "Oh they must be proud of the food, the literature, the history, the art, the language, etc." but when someone says they're proud to be white, what is it that they are proud of? White doesn't infer anything about a person other than their race, it doesn't tell me anything about who they are so why is that point of pride? What are white foods, what's white literature, what's white art? Anything like that in America is just considered American culture not specifically white culture. You can be proud to be from a region, like say you're from the Midwest, because there are foods, accents, sayings, and even art that comes from that experience, but not just being white. You can also just be proud to be American and no one is mad at that. However, "white" is just a descriptor of race, not an ethnic group. Black Americans are both a race and an ethnic group, hence why black people from other places rep that culture, so Jaimacans call themselves Jaimacan, Nigerians do the same, and so on. Black Americans have started using more distinctive terms too like Foundational Black and ADOS because it better illustrates that black people from America are its own distinct ethnic group with foods of their own, dances, language, history, art, etc. If you are a white person who wants to be proud of who you are, you probably need to learn more about where you actually come from because "white" is just a sociopolitical term to describe people who come from Europe--but Europe is a super diverse place so you'd need to be more specific than that to figure out what your culture is not just your race. Ask your family about your heritage it's likely going to make you feel better.
@@greenluxiI think calling all black people are from the same race but white people aren't is just confusing. Unless you specifically mean only black people in America which still gets confusing as you're suggesting there's no diversity.
@@greenluxi Na that is where you're dead wrong, you can't just expect whites to say they are proud to be U.S. American (I distinguish that because American means the continent to me) Because blacks and whites do have different culture, blacks have their own foods, music, dancing...ect but whites have theirs. Why do you always hear people say things like "Oh that's black people music" or "that's white people music" or "look at this black guy dancing like a white guy" because there is white culture......which is different to U.S. American culture. U.S. American culture is a blend of everything, because it is a very multicultural country. Whites and Blacks love their basketball, football, College parties, going to the club, 4th of July celebrations where there is usually a BBQ or cookup, drinking is involved, watching fireworks, maybe firing off some guns.....ect That is a U.S. American thing both whites and blacks do it (as well as other races, I'm focused on whites and blacks for this comment though) How you guys go about those celebrations might differ in some ways, like the food you eat or the music you listen to....but you both celebrate U.S. Culture......you just apply different seasoning.
@@SilentHotdog28 Is that really American Culture though? Like you said it's a melting pot of a mix of cultures. But the question remains what is the White American culture? I think thats what they are referring to. But you are correct we all celebrate just in different ways.
As a black person🇿🇦, it's sad to see that Americans tell white people that they should be ashamed of being the race that they are. Be proud of being the race that you are. I am, I have no shame. That's not racist, it's self love and self confidence.
Why is it the black guy who is having to tell the 3 white people they should not be ashamed to be white? SMH Thanks to him for stepping up to say that though.
@kidsontheblock2680 the question wasn't about america. She argued the Japan point earlier to point out that it varies around the world. The same logic then applies to the later question
Racial preferences always confused me because I've met white people darker than some black people, Latinos and Asians ranging from paper white to deep brown, Native Americans with blonde hair, the list goes on. So when someone says they don't find an entire race attractive, it's hard not to believe there's some internal bias leading to a stereotypical image of what they believe that entire race looks/acts like.
lol…”native Americans” with blonde hair are white people who found that they’re great great grandmother was 1/4 Apache and used that for college applications.
@@slenderfoxx3797 But you can find those traits within any race, that's my point. If you find someone attractive and the only thing holding you back is a racial label, then there's obviously some kind of bias you refuse to depart with about that race.
@@dugeefresh1000 I think it makes sense to differentiate between a racial preference and disregarding an entire race. Not all physical traits are present to the same degree in every population. If you prefer some traits and they show up more often in a race of people, on average you would prefer that race over others. It could make sense for a person to then e.g. indicate that preference in a dating app that will present you with more people of that race. That would be one way to realistically apply a racial preference to dating.
Sarah says “I have been to countries where they will tell me that it’s closed when there’s people eating inside because I am white.” Prompt: I have been denied access because of my race Sarah: I will never have an issue getting in somewhere because of my race Fully contradicted her self 😭
To think hate cannot be race based in either direction is ignorant (not in a mean way, but in a “you haven’t necessarily been exposed way”). People hate, we just teach them who to hate. I grew up in a mixed community in the 80s & 90s with about a 1/3 Hispanic, 1/3 Black, and 1/3 White. Racism wasn’t really an issue. When I went to summer camp and I was the only white kid in my cabin with kids from intercity Chicago, I was viscously attacked both verbally and physically throughout the week. I must have been 9 or 10? The counselors thought it was funny.
You're absolutely correct. I went to a summer camp where the other children were all Black Americans, and I was treated horribly due to my Nigerian background. They “revoked my black card” and called me all types of names simply because I didn’t behave like the stereotype. Nigerian culture is completely different. I had never even surrounded by so much chaos and belittling.
@@Brii98 Are you going to acknowledge the ways in which Nigerians look down on Black Americans and call them akatas? At least Black Americans don't have a slur for nigerians like nigerians do for black americans.
I have so many questions about this. Like, what region are you from within the U.S.? I also noticed that you stated *inner city* Chicago. Were the other campers Black, Latine, and Asian? Inner city is usually code for Black and/or Latine, so asking for clarification-and Chicago is usually a city used to focus on “unruly” Black people. I'm from Indianapolis, which isn’t too far from Chicago. I have family there. My godchildren grew up there and went to private schools. Not invalidating your experiences, but wondering why you linked race-based prejudice to hatred vs. bias. I'm also curious as to why the camp counselors didn’t do anything. That part is just icky. They didn’t want to do their jobs-they should have been fired! 🫠
@@Brii98How did you get Black Americans out of “intercity Chicago”--and why do you think all Black Americans act a certain way when she stated that her neighborhood was diverse (1/3 Black) and racism wasn’t an issue there?
I really wish ppl would stop trying the blur the lines between racism and systemic oppression. they're not the same. racial prejudice of any kind is RACISM. 😭
There is no oppression in modern day America. And the only systemic racism is "diversity" quotas and policies, which are both systemic and ubiquitous. And they're anti-white and pro-black-- as well as anti-male and pro-female.
@@llIllIlI They're not mutually exclusive concepts Racial prejudice by definition is racism. That's literally always been the definition in the dictionary.
I understand and agree with Nikki on most things, but she seems so eager to be offended for POC. I appreciate the sentiment and allyship, but it got to the point where it feels she’s almost telling us what we should be offended about. That being said, it’s appreciated that she’s self aware.
YES! It’s pick-me energy. She should be offended for us because wrong is wrong. But it’s like “hey look at me I’m with y’all and this is what I feel and do to show y’all”. Instead of it being natural. Like she quickly skipped to disagree with the “I am proud of my race” statement. I agreed with the things she said though. But if I’m gonna give the benefit of the doubt, I think that maybe she just is super empathetic to us and really hates the actions of her ascendants so she’s more “animated” in her defense.
She’s probably just passionate. And if you look at the history of racism and segregation in America, having people like that as allies really helped to bring about a lot of change. So her “ trying too hard” is definitely better than not caring at all.
@@abdidegu7878 Some greeks are brown but many (if not most) are white. It also kind of depends on how you think a person should look like in order to be considered white
I am often amazed at all the hate i see online because in real life, i only know people like this group where even with different opinions or belonging to a different group we still get along and understand as well as respect each other's individual experiences
I think people online devolve into hatred because the anonymity protects them. They feel invincible to say anything without realising the consequences of what they say the same way they would in real life
Biggest problem is that people STILL confuse ‘race’ and ethnic group/culture. Ofc it makes sense to be proud of your culture and your peoples history. Race on the other hand, how can you be proud of your facial features???
This video turned out to be really wholesome and sweet. I love how everyone came together and talked with each other respectfully. The fact that they all hugged each other at the end was very heartwarming ☺️
Everyone has their own experience. Another black person, who's not from where I'm from, can't relate to me. However, we can relate to how we're treated by a group of people who view us the same.
Really great video, I appreciate that everyone was given the space to talk and be honest, and I especially appreciated seeing the Ukranian guy's choices because it reminds us that people outside of America can have wildly different experiences than Americans with race, and that informs a lot about how they view and interpret race and racism.
I like how he admitted that they use the “n” word in Ukraine because it's slang, but he didn’t realize it was offensive until he started working with Black people.
@@jinakayestop acting as if they’re innocent ppl who don’t understand what they’re doing. look how they treated africans during the war with russia, europeans are aware!!
I@@oh5510 I somewhat agree with your statement but here is why I think your statement lands flat. I grew up in a big city and every year I would visit my family in a small village in Poland. In fact many people aren't aware of the fact that the slurs, they are offensive because in their eyes it is slang.
“Where is my camera?” I love Corey so bad😂 And the subtle cultural reference between Corey and Xaviaer with the “I see you… We see each other” was great😂
The girl was spot on about white people in Japan. I can confirm, I was turned away from multiple restaurants and completely ignored by people when asking for directions. But I also met Japanese people (of all ages) who were completely the opposite and paid for my check at a restaurant.
@@jonathanetayo8001 I've never heard anyone I know say they were rude but perhaps if you've an American accent they may not be as friendly. It's the same thing in France, when they hear English they can be incredibly rude but once they know the person is Irish, their whole demeanor changes. This is over historical wars so perhaps look from that perspective.
I actually really liked this video! A ton of understanding and agreeing on both sides and everyone just got along so well instead of the talking over and yelling arguments that happen in other videos
That one girl who was denied entry in restaurants did not experience racism but xenophobia. They didn’t reject her specifically because she’s white, but because she’s a foreigner. A black person would have also been denied entry.
@@tbh.ash_racism as they said in the video cannot be experienced by white people. As it is not systemic and also as the concept of racism was invented to discriminate against black people
🏆💯% She will definitely not miss this opportunity. And I suspect that I will agree with her 95% again. I'm comfortable in her and Taylor's opinion bubble.
EXACTLY! like I can understand if they aren’t really your type but there’s no way someone like a Rihanna is ugly to you. Theres always gonna be someone that’s attractive enough where they are the exception.
Very informative. I'm a biracial woman and all of these very bright and eloquent people have shed a new light on a lot of internal conflicts I've been dealing with. Thank you !
@@AS-dc9fy Additionally, the Asian as well as the Middle Eastern does NOT integrate well. He always isolates himself and doesn't accept norms of others
Feeling safer and maybe having a spirit of shared understanding and community might have something to do with it. I'm pretty sure it's a human thing to do and not really a problem. The problem is when we allow our personal biases to determine how we treat one set of people differently from how we treat others. Most times, we don't even know we have these biases or that they are influencing what we do or how we think.
22:28 I agree with him-not many people will say in Europe “I’m proud to be white” but like that girl said, “I’m proud German,Slavic,Spanish” (many Americans like to put all whites into one group)simply also cuz in Europe but like in Africa too- not all white/black peoples are the same-in sense to have same history,culture,upbringing etc. For him also to say “we black as a whole “ I agree 50% of that cuz there are different Black cultures in Africa and Black Americans have their own culture….
Black Americans are so far removed from Africa we can't even understand where our original country is so that's why we all unified and identify as black Americans. No more african-American. That's why he said it the way he did. So he is 100% correct.
Black American culture is an amalgamation of the multiple African countries our ancestors came from + our indigenous connections + American influences. That's what makes American Blackness unique.
Jubilee, this was another fantastic conversation. Thank you so much for this. Special shout out to the cast, producers, casting director for choosing wonderful people, and the editors. Looking firward to the next.
As a young Black South African woman, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. There are notable similarities between South African and American history, particularly concerning issues of race and inequality. The mention of apartheid added a relatable layer, making this episode particularly meaningful to me.
Plammon, you need to rewatch that bit and compare with other videos of black people talking about the code switching and how they describe the racial aspect applied to them. we know whites have their own work persona too as do we. there are other layers on top. y'all need to make just that little extra effort and not assume things are surface level . real life ain't like that AT ALL
The argument isn’t if different cultures change the exact same way from culture to work. That’s what your inserting. We obviously do not change identically from culture to work, no one changes identically, but we all change at work. That’s the point, that we change, not the type of change. They type of change can only be homogenized if our cultures are homogenized. Is that what you’re asking for? One culture?
As far as being racial. Maybe not to you but to those of color it is. Unless you deal with micro aggressions, you can’t speak on it. Just say that you can’t relate 💁🏽♀️
If the title was flipped, this whole video would be shadow banned 😅 But it's always healthy to hear other people's perspective on things. Especially when the history and recent events haven't been too bright
Because systemic racism and prejudice against black people is widely prevalent and actively happening. On the other hand, white people don't have to worry about that so essentially there is no need to promote an existing harmful rhetoric that we're still trying to fight against and which has been the case for hundreds of years.
I don't think you're hearing anyone's opinion or perspective on this stuff, that they don't understand by the way, that you aren't spoon-fed all day long when you're online. There was barely any pushback, from sometimes, some very racist and dangerous lines of thought. But, you know, racism is ok so long as it's against white people. We all know the only way to solve racism in this country is to be racist, albeit in another way. Or to virtue signal about it and just have confused people tell you what to do.
This was amazing. The way it flowed and how everyone respected each others opinion without getting defensive was great. And you can tell they all probably learned something from one another
Sarah was on strongly disagree for the prompt: ‘I have been denied access because of my race’ even though earlier she said when she was in Japan they denied her access while people were there eating.
She was talking about her experience in JAPAN, which she had been denied. The second question about being denied spaces was about her everyday life in the USA.
I think finding ways to appreciate our lineage is productive, in the sense it is part of our background despite how we feel about it, and we have the chance to play a part in shaping its legacy to our children and others into a better form than how we might have inherited it.
I loved this conversation. I love Corey. Sarah and Mark are smart. Somebody give Kaylyn a hug. Also I think we need to stop thinking that everyone's existence is the same especially in stereotypical ways, there needs to be more grace and more conversations because you have no idea where someone comes from.
Steve leans back in his chair, assessing your words with a discerning gaze. "You seem to be throwing around a lot of names and general statements without providing any context or substance. Let's dive deeper. When you say you love Corey, what specifically draws you to him? And why do you feel the need to mention Sarah and Mark? And when you talk about grace and conversations, what aspect of someone's existence are you referring to? Be specific, and let's get to the heart of the matter."
I do agree with what you're saying about treating everyone's experiencing the same, because it's not. I as a black woman have not experienced racism from white people. It would be unfair for someone who is black who has experienced racism from a a white person to take their experience and use it as the prime experience for all. We should be aware that there are black people who do experience racism, but that experience is different for every black person.
Whoever Nikki is i really appreciate your points on seismic issues. Because u definitely said what i was thinking well most of it on most of the questions. You have a friend 4 life in me💯💪🏿
Just from my perspective, there seems to be more of it than any other form of racial hate (not saying it's impact is the same just to be clear). It is more socially acceptable in the US it seems (again, my perspective). Ironically, lot of it seems to come from white people (generally younger and female).
About being proud of your ethnicity: Why would you be proud of something you did not accomplish? You did not accomplish being born a certain ethnicity, you don't need to dislike it, although it doesn't mean you have to feed your ego because of something that does not have to do with merit.
As a white person the result of the last prompt made me sad and scared for white peoples future. That fact that 3 of the 4 people went to the strongly disagree side just shows what culture is pressuring white people to answer to. We need more people like Sergei who are proud of their culture, but loving of other people. Let's coexist.
Not sure if it’s pressure or just the fact that I genuinely don’t know what to be proud of, ya know? I get the point about being proud to be German or Italian or what have you. But what if you’re white in this country without strong ties to your European roots? What are you supposed to be proud of?
He clarified that he didn't understand the question because for him white and his nationality/ethnicity are synonymous and the confederacy, KKK, slavery, etc. are not the first things that come to mind. For the other 3 and the black people on the panel, it does which is why the 2 strongly disagree girls clarified the distinction or lineage vs. just skin color.
@overlordfemto7523 It’s hard to be proud of The United States, knowing how we got this land. I mean, I’m sure you might disagree and that’s fine, but while I’m grateful to live in The US, it’s hard to feel “proud” of the history. Though I do have faith (and hope) in what the US can one day be.
@@ky4864That's genuinely sad. USA is completely unique. Thrived with a new idea of government, founded on principles ran by the people with a constitution that enshrines natural rights for all people who join us from around the world. Free markets that improved the world through innovation. Protection for countries that would have been conquered, protection of trade routes around the world. Immense amounts of aid after natural disasters around the world. A country that could have conquered the world but instead rebuilt countries in the aftermath of world wars. Spreading influence of progressive ideals that result in more freedom worldwide. Ending slavery, women's rights, gay rights, environmental awareness, ect largely pushed by American culture. I skipped lots of nuance and didn't mention our mistakes but there's plenty to be proud of if we aren't buying the nonsense of reducing us to "evil colonizers".
Thank you for using the term "race-based prejudice" in the prompt rather than simply "racism" I think using the latter term would've resulted in much more arguing over the definition of racism than actually answering the prompt. We spend so much time arguing over the definitions of loaded terms that could be spent coming to an understanding by using words that there's less disagreement over.
I think that terms matter, because how else would we communicate? But I think that we take language too seriously, and give too much weight to certain words resulting in misunderstandings. Like some things that Serg said could have been misinterpreted, but I think everyone understood where he was coming from and that it was probably a language barrier
Thank you for bringing SERGey to discussion. Because his point of view also represents average Ukrainian/European white person point to race discussion. I’m also Ukrainian currently live in Canada and for me it’s so different from Canadian/American white group. Because we were raised in different cultural and historical context. Like it was also common 150 years ago to be “slaves” on our lands for white person. And say N-word isn’t offensive in the most cases we speak, for us any race beside white was just exotic(back to days I haven’t been to the North America). So it was really interesting to watch!
I have no hatred for Sergey. He explained his POV as a Ukranian. I might not agree it but at least I know he wasn't trying to offend anyone. It's much different in the US, especially in the southern US, where race is always been an issue.
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No.
@user-kq2we1ex3h that made me think I missed a question. Like did he understand the question?
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Queer culture does not come from black culture. Majority of black countries have banned the lgbt movement
I’d be interested in a version between asian-americans and black-americans since there has been a huge divide in culture
Definitely would’ve interested me since I’m Afro-Filipino.
They did a Middle Ground on that, but I'd into seeing that on Spectrum as well.
What episode??
@@gabrielmcdonnell8699Half black, half filipino? Or a black person from the Philippines?
@@BxChef.207 have black and half flipino bc that's what that means
I think that you need to invite more people from other parts of the world to share their views. Sergei had a new opinions about those topic just because he wasn't raised in America. You could also do a episode of spectrum with people from the same race, but different countries/continets (like 4 people from US and 4 from EU)
No because then I wouldn’t be primairly about white va black. U shoukd try to minimize external differences to know the differences between the 2 groupss
@@koenjoosten182 But then you're only talking about a small group of people, when there is a whole world of people out there. Black people from Africa would see the race completly different then black people from US, and I think that we should talk about those differences, and learn from each other. Or if you don't want to learn then at least see it as a cool comparison.
black people arent only in the US@@koenjoosten182
Very cool idea
That's a great idea
2 prompt earlier
Sarah: In Japan I wouldn't be allowed to eat at certain restaurants cause im white
Prompt: Have I been denied access because of my race.
Sarah: Strongly Disagree.
@@CoochSmoochThe root of the problem is generalizing certain behaviors and characteristics done by the few onto the entire group but if y’all wanna excuse what they do then go off ig
She talked more so in her day to day life
Her response to the second prompt explained that decision. She very clearly stated she was taking only her day to day life into account for that prompt, so I assume she means in the U.S. she does not experience being denied access.
"Hawaii is stolen land. Land that was stolen by white people."
...Native Americans exist. All the white people on mainland America are walking on land that was stolen from Natives, by white people.
Hawaii was just stolen slightly more recently.
Seeing vs experiencing.
no, this was actually one of the most mature episodes of spectrum, let alone with no malice energy and full understanding from every side? such a rare occurrence lol
For real 😂 I was expecting total chaos making me mad like a lot of other Jubilee episodes. But both the video and the comments are making respectful, understanding and logical points.
Eh, maybe, I felt there were some negative undertones… like the guy with the braids, he seemed pretty angry under his polite veneer.
Exactly
This SHOULD BE THE STANDARD! We all need to be adults about this
It's such a hot topic that someone is going to be submissive and we know *who* so there is little to no malice involved. If you bring out people who doesn't care what X thinks then it's a completely different story but as this is shot in America(I assume?) it's going to be pretty straight forward. If you were to bring this up with certain white young adults in UK(for example) it would be a *very* different discussion as they're completely insane and borderline dangerous people with radical views.
“I was like.. what is that” 😭
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@@-whyquestion Ok
I don't believe her, she's younger than me and likely had more exposure to social media, she has seen whites for as long as she can remember from doctors to media personnel. She's trying to be funny.
@@LOSTGPS I don’t think she meant it literally. She was probably saying that to add emphasis on the fact that there was no white people at her school at the time. We are here 6 minutes after Jubilee posted this 23 minute video. You didn’t see enough of the video to make that judgment
@@4thTribeJudith "clearly you didnt watch the whole video" duh, it was posted 7 minutes ago and its 23 minutes long. Can you count?
Edit: you changed your original comment because you realized the time didnt match your statement.
The Republican black guy hit the nail on the head with the prompt on being proud of your race. No one should be ashamed of their race because of the transgressions of people who share the same skin color. But should be taken into consideration when discussing various institutions as far as policies and social programs go.
Why should White people be proud of being White? What is there to be proud of? If you shouldn't be ashamed based on the transgressions of your race, then what should you be proud of?
He actually stated more about ethnicity than race, which is an improvement for him. He stated be proud of the ethnic lineage (if it's worthy), but to be proud to be white is a bit weird, considering the history. Xavaier surprised me in this video. He was a lot more open-minded and relatable.
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@@jinakaye is it weird for black Africans as well?
Same
I’m a southern white girl. If I walk into a meeting talking like a hillbilly, I will definitely not be taken seriously. But around my family I definitely use more country slang. I do not doubt the code switching happens for people who amongst different groups to try to fit in.
Yeah that comment was a little silly, more people do that in general than you would think. It is just how it is lol
Im mexican and Native American Apache mixed i understand you since i had to always consider my accent. Btw you rednecks and hillbillies are cool i have friends that are.
@@Nymeria64it’s not silly. I think you confirmed the comment actually. I can use a lot of county/southern slang that is normal in the day to day , but if I need to compose an email to the CEO of my hospital, I’m aware of my language and grammar.
@@ck2a of course, a lot of people code switch when in a professional environment. I change the way I speak and type whenever I am at work than how I would in my day to day, or how I would talk at a non-professional job. That’s why I thought the comment was silly, a lot of people code switch. It’s not just one race or one dialect
Every single person code switch. Everyone adapts to how they act or talk based on contests.
You can have people who slurs every two words at home be the most polite as possible at work because they deal with people.
Said that, this argument had nothing to do with the question it was asked, which was specific on race.
Homegirl in the light green top breaking down prejudice and racism, while point out the power structure ATE
Yes. Racism and prejudice are different
@@UnpopularOpinion3000well they go hand in hand. Prejudice is racism, but racism is racism
You mean the girl regurgitating revisionist definitions? Don’t worry, bud. You can hold on to the idea that white people can’t be racist so you can keep your victim card :)
@@UnpopularOpinion3000Yes but you need prejudice to be racist & white people just like any other race can experience that.
We mess with Mark cause Mark with us 😂
LOVE that they distinguished "proud to be white" vs "proud to be white ethnicity". And it was PERFECTLY PUT.
Be proud to be Greek! Slavic! German! Italian! But white isn't a collective identity like Black Americans were forced to construct.
Yeah, only that american culture is mix of western europe cultures!?
White pple have more of a collective shared culture than black pple.
@@marinhristozov1832By choice, not by force-and they never had to get rid of their cultural/ethnic traditions. The fact that indigenous Native Americans had to fight to even have their cultural/ethnic traditions on their own land is wild.
What happen to Black culture?
@@Jay-jb2vrread the last sentence
The island in Hawaii they referenced (Niʻihau) is privately owned. The general population cannot go there without permission, aside from the native population who were already living there at the time of purchase.
On that question, that one girl is GIGA racist. Anyone who thinks it's "justifiable" to say "____ race can't come here" is a racist.
Also, with that, they’ve have now opened up helicopter trips to that island to the general public. It’s just a designated area in which they will not be able to interact with the native population currently there. That being said, I think it’s amazing that the Robinson family has kept a place specific to the Native Hawaiian population as the islands were illegally overthrown in 1893 and to this day remains occupied lands.
I don't minx that. I am for ethno states.
Yes even if im hawaiian I still cannot go there without permission. I'd have to have family ties to that land or be invited by someone who's from there
Her being denied going there wouldn't have anything to do with race.
I feel like the overall dialogues we are having and everything is feeling so much lighter and respectable this year. Loving the shift in positive attitude 😊
Civil yeah but I feel like this is only respectable if you’re black since they just pandered to the black ppl the entire video and discredited and said bad things about white people
Meanwhile, at Club ShayShaye's......
I feel like they chose the wrong people, these debates should be between people with different views, while this whole video was them basically all agreeing with each other.
@@shardrocker-b9n The Ukrainian definitely didnt have similar views to the rest, and frankly he said some very ignorant stuff, yet no one jumped on him and acted reactionary but rather had a conversation w/ him and tried to understand his viewpoint.
exactly
I never understood racism, its not like we are born transparent and get to pick what race we want to be
Unfortunately there are still ppl out there who will judge and discriminate based on someone's skin
Human race will always find a way to be superior than others and is not just colors. Black africans had slave other black africans as well. Division it comes in all spectrums. East vs west, US vs China, Nazy vs Jews many more examples
@@ColitoPR yeah no it's pretty much just Caucasians who do this
@@ColitoPR
there shouldnt be east vs west it should be united continental earth without wars xenophobia poverty hunger
As a proud white guy im proud of my privilege and his hillbilly ness
I appreciate how everyone actively listened to each others comments and didn't tear each other down over perspectives. For example, even after some people mentioned their political views they were stilled listened too.
It was so nice to see how patient every one was with Sergei’s language barrier and how they were so kind and understanding when explaining different concepts to him ❤❤
I don't think there was a language barrier, he can perfectly understand and speak English. He just has different views and a different experience on the topic because he's from a place where it is rare to see black people.
He sounds like a native english speaker to me apart from some small parts, but he probably lives in a russian enclave in NYC or somet@@biasantos1405
@@biasantos1405 no he definitely has a language barrier. he even said colored people instead of people of color, clearly out of ignorance not deliberately. I was touched by how nobody jumped on his throat for the way he worded things because if a regular American said them... oof
@@VoVina111As someone who’s a “person of color“ I dislike both because it sounds like we are grouping people to white and “other”. But why the term colored has a bad connotation in the U.S.? It sounds the same as the term person of color anyways.
@flannuu people in movies don't say "afro American" though. He even said he works with black people. So he should know better.
Girl said she was denied access to a restaurant and then chose strongly disagree to having been denied access, weird
She was probably thinking in America vs. in Asia
Exactly makes no sense. She just said she was banned from a restaurant in Japan for being white 😂😂
Also people kept confusing what is happening vs how they feel about it. The white girl said yes she is denied access to places, but kept trying to explain shes ok with it. They said yes its racist to have dating preferences, but its ok if youre black and dont want to date someone white. Like they were confused
Caught that too
I was looking for this comment
Literally said the same thing. White people are not usually denied access IN AMERICA, but the question is only in America or globally? very vague.
This was such a respectful fun liberating intelligent kind and very much needed OPEN conversation 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thay girl said she was denied access to restaurants in Japan and then she says she hasnt been denied access.
I assume she was thinking 'denied access in america' plus they deny foreigners in japan not specifically white people.
Typically if a spot in Japan denies you it’s because you’re not Japanese, not that you’re a certain race or color. Korea on the other hand, will deny you based on color alone
she was saying on a day to day basis she probably doesnt live in japan
@@ClayMastah344 Japan does deny access to Blasians and other mixed-race Japanese, especially when it's clear they're mixed race.
@@ClayMastah344again another crazy indian spreading false information lol
it's so humanizing to engage in these discussions face to face. we need more of this in real life, we are all behind our screens.
That one black guy doesn´t even know that Africans enslaved white people...
If we REALLY talk it will expose a particular people and their pathology, we have to toe-the-line and play safe. Those people will get EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE AND SEND AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF THREATS because they can't handle the truth.
@@-ucanthandledatruth01-12 true true trueee it can be impossible to have these conversations without safety. It sucks how hateful people can still be in 2024.
@@boomeradley8748 My bro, you still don't understand lol, that's ok though we have been miseducated for a purpose, but as bros (I assume you are black), you saying 'how hateful people can still be in 2024' is actually quite ridiculous, a pathology or mental illness doesn't just reduce or disappear because of what year it is lol. They have a pathology and we have been made ignorant to misunderstand it, which leads to more exploitation and abuse. They will never stop being hateful, but looking at it as hate is too simplistic and doesn't give us clear understanding with depth. We will remain silent or toeing-the-line because as long as they dominate us (no matter what year it is) they will never handle the truth they themselves have given us the burden to keep secret for them will remain, it's an abusive relationship but they hate being given the details of their abuse, yet they depend on the abuse, but don't ant you to speak as though you are abused so they can enjoy their reality as though they aren't who they are.
@@boomeradley8748 I actually typed out an in-depth response about your confusion regarding what the year is an their mentality and also the manipulation of racism/w.supremacy/eurocentrism, with absolutely no disrespect or negativity, even referred to you as bro....and they deleted the comment lol. Do you think they are trying to contain crucial information about their warfare or social order?
Can all of the spectrum participants be like this group? They were all SO respectful and I, for once, didn’t roll my eyes at anyone 😂
@@redguy2489 white washed???
@@VoVina111 An African [Black] person who wants to engage with Europeans. Blacks who aren't psychologically Black. Larry Elder/Candace Owens
I thought they were a fantastic group, yes!
@@redguy2489 how was this group white washed??
I definitely rolled my eyes at the try-hard white girl in the front. Her virtue signaling was loud and clear😂
They should do White Nationalists and Black Nationalists having a conversation.
They would probably agree on a lot of points lol
@@TheTimeisGrey I know that was the joke
That may backfire. It may turn violent. Same thing if you brought Israelis and Levantine Arabs on a programme, yikes!
Its always nice seeing honesty in these videos
And a lot of ingorance. Africans and Asians enslaved white people.
Not completely honest though, but if you're okay with what you saw it's your choice.
As a black person, i completely feel sorry for the Ukrainian person who felt like he had to say everything is racist just to feel safe in the environment he was in
Bro comments everywhere
Can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not
This is one of the most contentious episodes of Spectrum I've ever seen with many guests challenging the other side... yet it was also incredibly respectful and friendly. Truly amazing to see.
"It's racist to not be sexually attracted to a different race". It just feels like this prompt was danced around. I don't think anyone said anything directly related to it. I wouldn't know their stances if it wasn't for where they stood (agree/disagree).
it's not raist i am not atracted to black girls and I have no probelms against black people it's aboiut preference although i love latinas
Racial preferences are racist
I don't think it's racist to not be attracted to another
@@biker3762 see the nuance with the question is that you may unknowingly hold some bias against black girls (just like you may unknowingly hold some bias for latinas) besides appearance. this is why I don't think the prompt can truly 100% be answered. maybe if you've had experience with both races and found black girls just didn't spark like latinas did, then it's better answered.
Personally when I see someone's appearance, I immediately try to figure out what their personality is like, but that may just be me. Either way, attraction isn't solely looks/appearance, so it's not easy to answer in my opinion.
@@nancywinner I get your point on the personality but for me to like a girl she needs to have personality and look attractive to me i beleive you some black irls will have great personalties but i just dont find them attractive to date to be best freidns of course it's not a debate it's an personal preference like a se a latina y find her hot a black girl i dont not saying personality but looks wise is something ic anrt agree on unfornatley
The dude in the white button up was the most rationally minded. I was so happy when he made the obvious point that you act different at work because you’re expected to act more proper in that environment, period. Anyone of any race is expected to act proper at work.
The one who said systemic racism isn’t a thing (factually incorrect) & that Affirmative action benefits black people more than anyone (factually incorrect)?
Lol, no he isn't rational minded. You just agree with what he says. That "proper" discourse is very problematic. Ik you've heard the other points he made as well.
That affirmative action take was so incorrect. I think the fella needs to read more books. His think pieces are sounding very niche
The thing is also then, who defines what proper is. What is proper? What that mean and where did it come from?
@@atmodlee systemic racism isn’t a thing today in America and affirmative action doesn’t work. That’s factually correvt
Mentioning Hawaii from this video is refreshing in a way because at least there are people that know and are considerate of the island. Knowledge is power and for some people to know the history of my people and it’s past is just ugh thank you. It’s just so much appreciation where I’m coming from😭
Are you Niihau ?
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If Hawaï is stolen land, so is the whole US territory.
We were literally taught how the Queen of Hawaii was held at gunpoint in high school, US History to be exact. That story is as popular as Rosa Parks', MLK's, JFK's, etc.
I'm Chinese, born and raised in Germany. It took me a while to realise, that my pediatrician was an Afro-American. When I was young, I could only differentiate between people who spoke Chinese and people who don't, because that was my first language and the only thing, that my fellow citizens and I did not have in common. Later on I learned that there are many different kinds of cultures. I'm happy my parents didn't tell me what race means. Although they were very traditional, we have never put people into boxes.
That’s an amazing privilege I feel when you’re black you’re taught very young for safety or because you experience racism from somewhere or someone really young I remember being five and these kids were just telling innocent jokes but all of a sudden the non black kid tells the black kid atleast I’m not black and me and the other black kid were so confused as to why this kid thought that was a problem
Hey, I‘m from Germany, too. Probably it wasn‘t an Afro-American but a Afro-European 😉 Or just say a Black pediatrician.
@@spongebobcirclepants3843that’s a bad practice. Not differentiating between races would most likely be the best way to keep your children safe.
@@spongebobcirclepants3843 Which is why I advocate for segregation! Segregation would ensure us as Africans [Blacks] aren't being called racial slurs, spit on, thrown bananas at, or called the police on for breathing.
@@deang8910you say that because you aren’t on the other side…..
This was a great group.. definitely could have been 20-30 minutes longer.. or bring them back.. both sides were very understanding and engaging.. great job!!!!
No it was abhorrent, white ppl who aren't proud of their race are cringe af, nobody chooses their race. You cant be proud of who you are without being proud of your race, other people actions in the past dont make who people are today, if that were the case, anyone of African descent should hate being black because their own people SOLD THEM!
Great group because they bashed on white guys and demanded white guilt plus black folks said that they're proud of some culture. Yeah I get it why it was satisfying for you :)
The white guilt in this video was insane 😂
White fertility is strong with this comment lol
@@UmQasaann I’m black 😂
@@Caliboymar510 I'm Native American these settlers can cry and go back to Europe. Lol
@@UmQasaann We don't want them back
@@m-tetsuowe? as in illegal immigrants?
As a Native, saying white people are “justifiably denied access” to things like pow-wows is silly. I’ve been to an exclusively native pow-wow maybe one time and let me tell you: almost nobody was there.
Being outright denied access and having an event that showcases and celebrates another race’s pride aren’t the same thing. If you’re a non-Native, I encourage you to check if public pow-wows are happening near you. :)
Thank you for educating me on this! I love learning about other people, their cultures, and their traditions. So I’ll definitely see what’s open to the public near me! 😊
@@NikkiHru no problem! Sorry if it came off as snarky- wasn’t my intention :)
Not snarky at all!!! I genuinely appreciate it! I would rather be corrected and educated, you know? So thank you 🙏🏼😊
I am also indigenous and I couldn’t agree more. Other races coming to pow wows also helps support small native owned businesses ❤
I've had a different experience. I'm mixed, and grew up and live on a reservation, and I've been denied many things many times because my blood isn't pure enough. I have to have a special ID in order to step foot off the main highway in my own homeland, the only one I've ever known. I get along with everyone just fine as well, so that's not the issue. I've been stopped and escorted back on to the highway for daring to try to go into the mountains. It's like, "Gus, you know me. You sang at my grandad's funeral, the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced, so why are you treating me like this?"
I absolutely LOVE this! Everyone spoke,everyone expressed,everyone is DOPE!
When you forget to hit the space bar
Nikki is literally brainwashed to hate white people what do you mean
Fr this video,wasamazing,it'snice,tosee,everyonebepolite,andopenminded
@@Brii98😂😂😂
"Also, if you're hood and ghetto like me you can be all of those things too" How can you not love Corey? 🤣🤣
He was on point .
Chile don't inflate my ego now lmaoooo
Corey was amazing! His explanations were on point & he was gentle with his corrections.
He told no lies
Segregation MUST be reinforced. Africans [Blacks] MUST practice racial purity!!!
In Europe "white" isn't really an identity and I think the same can be said of being "black" here. Every single "black" person who lives in the UK is an immigrant or the descendants of immigrants from Nigeria or Ghana etc and the focus tends to be on Nigerian culture etc as well as the British culture they assimilate into.
I bet black Brits also know Africa is a continent and not a country and they can name the countries of Africa too.
@@BeanMacduiAmericans can too. Europeans don't understand USA has 50 states and we're not all the same. Europeans act like all of USA is just texas
@@alexv1190 what kind of European have you been talking to???? XD XD
Aren't Jamaican descendants very numerous in the UK ?
@@Manadoodles a lot of European people are tremendously ignorant.
I need the extended cut! Really solid conversations here & strong points made.
Respect to the ukranian guy for being proud and honest.
Yeah, he just got it mixed up, and he doesn’t really understand America and our history/growth. He’s proud to be Ukrainian, and to him being white and Ukrainian are on in the same.
He was confused he was proud to be Ukrainian which is a specific culture, but white really isn't. No one thinks being proud of being Irish, German, French, Swedish, etc. is bad because it makes sense. If someone says they are proud to be French you can think "Oh they must be proud of the food, the literature, the history, the art, the language, etc." but when someone says they're proud to be white, what is it that they are proud of? White doesn't infer anything about a person other than their race, it doesn't tell me anything about who they are so why is that point of pride? What are white foods, what's white literature, what's white art? Anything like that in America is just considered American culture not specifically white culture. You can be proud to be from a region, like say you're from the Midwest, because there are foods, accents, sayings, and even art that comes from that experience, but not just being white. You can also just be proud to be American and no one is mad at that. However, "white" is just a descriptor of race, not an ethnic group. Black Americans are both a race and an ethnic group, hence why black people from other places rep that culture, so Jaimacans call themselves Jaimacan, Nigerians do the same, and so on. Black Americans have started using more distinctive terms too like Foundational Black and ADOS because it better illustrates that black people from America are its own distinct ethnic group with foods of their own, dances, language, history, art, etc.
If you are a white person who wants to be proud of who you are, you probably need to learn more about where you actually come from because "white" is just a sociopolitical term to describe people who come from Europe--but Europe is a super diverse place so you'd need to be more specific than that to figure out what your culture is not just your race. Ask your family about your heritage it's likely going to make you feel better.
@@greenluxiI think calling all black people are from the same race but white people aren't is just confusing. Unless you specifically mean only black people in America which still gets confusing as you're suggesting there's no diversity.
@@greenluxi Na that is where you're dead wrong, you can't just expect whites to say they are proud to be U.S. American (I distinguish that because American means the continent to me) Because blacks and whites do have different culture, blacks have their own foods, music, dancing...ect but whites have theirs. Why do you always hear people say things like "Oh that's black people music" or "that's white people music" or "look at this black guy dancing like a white guy" because there is white culture......which is different to U.S. American culture. U.S. American culture is a blend of everything, because it is a very multicultural country. Whites and Blacks love their basketball, football, College parties, going to the club, 4th of July celebrations where there is usually a BBQ or cookup, drinking is involved, watching fireworks, maybe firing off some guns.....ect That is a U.S. American thing both whites and blacks do it (as well as other races, I'm focused on whites and blacks for this comment though) How you guys go about those celebrations might differ in some ways, like the food you eat or the music you listen to....but you both celebrate U.S. Culture......you just apply different seasoning.
@@SilentHotdog28 Is that really American Culture though? Like you said it's a melting pot of a mix of cultures. But the question remains what is the White American culture? I think thats what they are referring to. But you are correct we all celebrate just in different ways.
As a black person🇿🇦, it's sad to see that Americans tell white people that they should be ashamed of being the race that they are.
Be proud of being the race that you are. I am, I have no shame. That's not racist, it's self love and self confidence.
When people say that, they say: “im proud to be white” but like White aint a race
lol no one in this video said that. but yeah its sad when it happens.
Nobody is telling White people that.
White ppl are plenty entitled and proud of themselves, don't worry
@@Solidude4 u missed the point pookie
Why is it the black guy who is having to tell the 3 white people they should not be ashamed to be white? SMH Thanks to him for stepping up to say that though.
That girl said Japanese restaurants will deny you access, then went to "strongly disagree" that she's been denied access....
Exactly like that got me thinking like wtf
Exactly I was wondering if someone was gonna call her out on that, but no one did
Virtue signaling
she clearly stated that she means on her day to day life
@kidsontheblock2680 the question wasn't about america. She argued the Japan point earlier to point out that it varies around the world. The same logic then applies to the later question
Racial preferences always confused me because I've met white people darker than some black people, Latinos and Asians ranging from paper white to deep brown, Native Americans with blonde hair, the list goes on. So when someone says they don't find an entire race attractive, it's hard not to believe there's some internal bias leading to a stereotypical image of what they believe that entire race looks/acts like.
lol…”native Americans” with blonde hair are white people who found that they’re great great grandmother was 1/4 Apache and used that for college applications.
youve never met a white person darker than a black person... if you genuinely think that then you dont understand race.
Then it means they just find certain physical traits attractive. Whether its a certain skin colour, hair colour and texture, eye colour and shape etc.
@@slenderfoxx3797 But you can find those traits within any race, that's my point. If you find someone attractive and the only thing holding you back is a racial label, then there's obviously some kind of bias you refuse to depart with about that race.
@@dugeefresh1000 I think it makes sense to differentiate between a racial preference and disregarding an entire race. Not all physical traits are present to the same degree in every population. If you prefer some traits and they show up more often in a race of people, on average you would prefer that race over others. It could make sense for a person to then e.g. indicate that preference in a dating app that will present you with more people of that race. That would be one way to realistically apply a racial preference to dating.
Sarah says “I have been to countries where they will tell me that it’s closed when there’s people eating inside because I am white.”
Prompt: I have been denied access because of my race
Sarah: I will never have an issue getting in somewhere because of my race
Fully contradicted her self 😭
Yeah...I was just thinking...wtf...liar.
Yeah I caught that too.
well well well Sarah
She's a self-hating White woman.
Hmmmm
everyone acts differently around everyone
I dont lol
To think hate cannot be race based in either direction is ignorant (not in a mean way, but in a “you haven’t necessarily been exposed way”). People hate, we just teach them who to hate. I grew up in a mixed community in the 80s & 90s with about a 1/3 Hispanic, 1/3 Black, and 1/3 White. Racism wasn’t really an issue. When I went to summer camp and I was the only white kid in my cabin with kids from intercity Chicago, I was viscously attacked both verbally and physically throughout the week. I must have been 9 or 10? The counselors thought it was funny.
Wow .. i hear ya & not cool
You're absolutely correct. I went to a summer camp where the other children were all Black Americans, and I was treated horribly due to my Nigerian background. They “revoked my black card” and called me all types of names simply because I didn’t behave like the stereotype. Nigerian culture is completely different. I had never even surrounded by so much chaos and belittling.
@@Brii98 Are you going to acknowledge the ways in which Nigerians look down on Black Americans and call them akatas? At least Black Americans don't have a slur for nigerians like nigerians do for black americans.
I have so many questions about this. Like, what region are you from within the U.S.? I also noticed that you stated *inner city* Chicago. Were the other campers Black, Latine, and Asian? Inner city is usually code for Black and/or Latine, so asking for clarification-and Chicago is usually a city used to focus on “unruly” Black people.
I'm from Indianapolis, which isn’t too far from Chicago. I have family there. My godchildren grew up there and went to private schools. Not invalidating your experiences, but wondering why you linked race-based prejudice to hatred vs. bias. I'm also curious as to why the camp counselors didn’t do anything. That part is just icky. They didn’t want to do their jobs-they should have been fired! 🫠
@@Brii98How did you get Black Americans out of “intercity Chicago”--and why do you think all Black Americans act a certain way when she stated that her neighborhood was diverse (1/3 Black) and racism wasn’t an issue there?
I really wish ppl would stop trying the blur the lines between racism and systemic oppression. they're not the same. racial prejudice of any kind is RACISM. 😭
Only one person said that
Racism is systemic oppression...
That's why we have the word prejudice. It's similar but different.
Racism implies a systems. Ism.
There is no oppression in modern day America.
And the only systemic racism is "diversity" quotas and policies, which are both systemic and ubiquitous. And they're anti-white and pro-black-- as well as anti-male and pro-female.
@@llIllIlI They're not mutually exclusive concepts Racial prejudice by definition is racism. That's literally always been the definition in the dictionary.
@@llIllIlI prejudice on ethnic grounds is racism dummy
I understand and agree with Nikki on most things, but she seems so eager to be offended for POC. I appreciate the sentiment and allyship, but it got to the point where it feels she’s almost telling us what we should be offended about.
That being said, it’s appreciated that she’s self aware.
I disagreed with her on nearly everything lol but at least she was being being respectful to those who disagreed with her.
I couldn’t disagree with Nikki more. She is racist. Everything to her is color and she is everything MLK was against. Sad.
YES! It’s pick-me energy. She should be offended for us because wrong is wrong. But it’s like “hey look at me I’m with y’all and this is what I feel and do to show y’all”. Instead of it being natural. Like she quickly skipped to disagree with the “I am proud of my race” statement.
I agreed with the things she said though.
But if I’m gonna give the benefit of the doubt, I think that maybe she just is super empathetic to us and really hates the actions of her ascendants so she’s more “animated” in her defense.
I felt that through the screen. Fs felt a lil performative
She’s probably just passionate. And if you look at the history of racism and segregation in America, having people like that as allies really helped to bring about a lot of change. So her “ trying too hard” is definitely better than not caring at all.
Very interesting conversation. I learn a lot from you all.
Thanks for sharing.
Great video. The point at the end about being proud of heritage is true. I'm indifferent about being white but I am proud of being Greek.
Greek is brown not white
@@abdidegu7878 Some greeks are brown but many (if not most) are white. It also kind of depends on how you think a person should look like in order to be considered white
@@abdidegu7878 greek people are white..
@@abdidegu7878 My skin is an olive shade.
@amsterdameIt's really different than nordics and even germanic and Celtic people. They are not the same.
I am often amazed at all the hate i see online because in real life, i only know people like this group where even with different opinions or belonging to a different group we still get along and understand as well as respect each other's individual experiences
It is not hate to want segregation! As Africans [Blacks] we MUST practice racial purity!!!
I think people online devolve into hatred because the anonymity protects them. They feel invincible to say anything without realising the consequences of what they say the same way they would in real life
This! But also, I have definitely seen both sides.
@@DrUmarJohnson1 wtf
A lot of their ideas are the root of the problems we see today. They were all liberals except for 1
Biggest problem is that people STILL confuse ‘race’ and ethnic group/culture. Ofc it makes sense to be proud of your culture and your peoples history. Race on the other hand, how can you be proud of your facial features???
It's because they use the term incorrectly. There is only ONE race of people on this planet: Human. What they should have said was ethnicity/culture.
Yeah that was confusing for me too… how can you even be proud of a race? I don’t get it
This is one if my favorite Jubilee episodes so far, because the people showed that they where uncertain about things. ❤
one of the best in a while tbh!!!! i love how educated everyone is
Me too, everyone's comment I 👏 and screamed well said! 😊
Loved this, everyone was so respectful and had valid points
absoLUTELY NOT. Nikki showed so much disgusting anti whiteness its insane
Lame. I need some drama in my life 😒😒
This video turned out to be really wholesome and sweet. I love how everyone came together and talked with each other respectfully. The fact that they all hugged each other at the end was very heartwarming ☺️
Dude this video is all about racism
I love the conversation it felt smooth and the communication was really incredible
Did you feel that way when someone told the white person racism can't be used against them because of the color of their skin?
@@patriot8242 I mean that everyone was communicating effectively and it was incredibly civil. I do not agree with that statement.
Everyone has their own experience. Another black person, who's not from where I'm from, can't relate to me. However, we can relate to how we're treated by a group of people who view us the same.
This. You would think that would be the great unifier.
Yeahh exactly
You must be American. Go to Africa. Will you find what you claim? No.
agree soemblack epople are bad vary bad and soem are nice
Really great video, I appreciate that everyone was given the space to talk and be honest, and I especially appreciated seeing the Ukranian guy's choices because it reminds us that people outside of America can have wildly different experiences than Americans with race, and that informs a lot about how they view and interpret race and racism.
I like how he admitted that they use the “n” word in Ukraine because it's slang, but he didn’t realize it was offensive until he started working with Black people.
@@jinakayeIts not slang. Literally the common slur
@@jinakayestop acting as if they’re innocent ppl who don’t understand what they’re doing. look how they treated africans during the war with russia, europeans are aware!!
I@@oh5510 I somewhat agree with your statement but here is why I think your statement lands flat. I grew up in a big city and every year I would visit my family in a small village in Poland. In fact many people aren't aware of the fact that the slurs, they are offensive because in their eyes it is slang.
The girl who lived in Asia said she was not allowed in places because she was white and then said she is allowed anywhere 😑.
She's obviously meant she's not been denied access to anywhere in the states dude 💡
2 different countries
@@PremVeejay no she didn't, she has white guilt.
“Where is my camera?” I love Corey so bad😂 And the subtle cultural reference between Corey and Xaviaer with the “I see you… We see each other” was great😂
The girl was spot on about white people in Japan. I can confirm, I was turned away from multiple restaurants and completely ignored by people when asking for directions. But I also met Japanese people (of all ages) who were completely the opposite and paid for my check at a restaurant.
Are you American?
@@sarahprosecco yes and no. i’m a dual citizen
Are you sure it was a race thing though maybe they just don't like foreigners in certain parts
@@jonathanetayo8001 I've never heard anyone I know say they were rude but perhaps if you've an American accent they may not be as friendly. It's the same thing in France, when they hear English they can be incredibly rude but once they know the person is Irish, their whole demeanor changes. This is over historical wars so perhaps look from that perspective.
it’s not about being white.. it’s because ur a foreigner. asians are sometimes against foreigners no matter their race
I actually really liked this video! A ton of understanding and agreeing on both sides and everyone just got along so well instead of the talking over and yelling arguments that happen in other videos
That one girl who was denied entry in restaurants did not experience racism but xenophobia. They didn’t reject her specifically because she’s white, but because she’s a foreigner. A black person would have also been denied entry.
She could’ve been a white person from Japan tho a Japanese person who is from the us wouldve
she literally said “because youre white or american” that’s racism
@@tbh.ash_racism as they said in the video cannot be experienced by white people. As it is not systemic and also as the concept of racism was invented to discriminate against black people
Wrong. She got denied because she's not Japanese. If a Japanese AMERICAN walked in, they wouldn't have a problem.
there are black american out there@@tbh.ash_
I don’t identify with any of the “Black People” on this panel.
And I don't with the white people...
Can’t wait for Amala to break this down 🫡
🏆💯% She will definitely not miss this opportunity. And I suspect that I will agree with her 95% again. I'm comfortable in her and Taylor's opinion bubble.
lol real.
can’t wait for the token black conservative to suck up to the white people 😂😂😂
I was just about to say 😂, im liberal but i actually love her jubilee breakdown videos
I'm waiting for Abba and Preach to react to this lol.
I loved this conversation everyone was mature and intelligent.
The blacks were simpimg to whites thats why you liked it. Basic lady
The black guy literally said that white people were not opressed. Africans and Asians and whites enslaved white people...
NO they weren't lol
nope, it was white guilt trigger and white bashing
@@Just_a_Lad Don't bother. These people are literally incapable of their own thoughts.
Huge difference between
“Black people arent usually my type”
VS
“EVERY black person in the world is unattractive”
Can you not find dark skin itself unattractive? The colour of your skin is a rather large and noticeable trait.
Replace "Black" with "White" and now you have a socially acceptable thing to say.
That exposes the problem with modern day Western culture.
😮
EXACTLY! like I can understand if they aren’t really your type but there’s no way someone like a Rihanna is ugly to you. Theres always gonna be someone that’s attractive enough where they are the exception.
I was never into black men, but I fell in love with my partner 5 years ago and it just doesn't matter.
I would say it's not my type
18:20 sis brought a tear to my eye I felt that in my soul. So proud to be who I am
COLOR DOESN'T MAKE ANYONE BETTER THAN
ITS WHAT VALUE YOUR SOUL CARRIES.
"SKIN COLOR IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS" -DEI Instructors
@@grod4L I'm Not Here to Debate ... So ... U Lose
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SOUL
@@grod4L that would apply to WS
There is a difference between races. Statistically one race has a higher iq and this result in less crime.
Please do this longer as a middle ground episode. Great conversation.
Very informative. I'm a biracial woman and all of these very bright and eloquent people have shed a new light on a lot of internal conflicts I've been dealing with. Thank you !
Are you psychologically Black???
canadian isnt a race...
@@AS-dc9fy I meant a black parent and a white parent. English isn't my first language, so I forgot the term. But thank you for pointing it out
@@AS-dc9fy Additionally, the Asian as well as the Middle Eastern does NOT integrate well. He always isolates himself and doesn't accept norms of others
@@RxsegoldFiend I understand you're multiracial. My question is if you're psychologically Black?
everyone from the same race naturally stick together, people like being around people similar to them
Feeling safer and maybe having a spirit of shared understanding and community might have something to do with it. I'm pretty sure it's a human thing to do and not really a problem. The problem is when we allow our personal biases to determine how we treat one set of people differently from how we treat others. Most times, we don't even know we have these biases or that they are influencing what we do or how we think.
That's definitely not true. People from the same ethnicity, yes, race, no.
@@ellesimprovementchannel1740 clock it!
Being ashamed of your own race is like hating all cakes because you dislike one ingredient.
well it depends on how integral the one ingredient you hate is to the cake
What if that ingredient is poison tho?
@@Random-sk6hmlmfaooo
@@Random-sk6hmso if black people realized that their own people sold their own people would that be fine for them hating themselves?
@@Random-sk6hmur reaching
JUBILEE BACK WITH MORE BANGERS !!
22:28 I agree with him-not many people will say in Europe “I’m proud to be white” but like that girl said, “I’m proud German,Slavic,Spanish” (many Americans like to put all whites into one group)simply also cuz in Europe but like in Africa too- not all white/black peoples are the same-in sense to have same history,culture,upbringing etc. For him also to say “we black as a whole “ I agree 50% of that cuz there are different Black cultures in Africa and Black Americans have their own culture….
Black Americans are so far removed from Africa we can't even understand where our original country is so that's why we all unified and identify as black Americans. No more african-American. That's why he said it the way he did. So he is 100% correct.
If there's a "black culture" then don't be surprised when black people get stereotyped. Culture is just a gateway to stereotypes.
@@amal-vq6ok Yes :)
There is Nothing like black culture.
Black American culture is an amalgamation of the multiple African countries our ancestors came from + our indigenous connections + American influences. That's what makes American Blackness unique.
What a discussion! 👏🏽
Jubilee, this was another fantastic conversation. Thank you so much for this. Special shout out to the cast, producers, casting director for choosing wonderful people, and the editors. Looking firward to the next.
As a young Black South African woman, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. There are notable similarities between South African and American history, particularly concerning issues of race and inequality. The mention of apartheid added a relatable layer, making this episode particularly meaningful to me.
Do South Asians and East Asians
Oooh yes!
Yes! The battle of the model minorities. 😁
Why "americans" are so obsessed with races?
Love that, when open-minded ppl get together it's love and understanding
I like how they ended on the note of “you should be ashamed of yourself for being born the way you are”
And then laughs it off lol. Funny how that works
He was the biggest racist on that panel.
@@SilVia-hs2kbhe was joking obviously it’s not that deep if u felt offended u just to sensitive
Typical jubilee liberal stuff
he was joking silly
This was such a great video. I like how light hearted this was and everyone spoke openly without getting offended.
we need more interactions like this, I love it
90% of white people have a work personality too. WE ALL DO IT. It’s def not racial. And races don’t talk a certain way. CULTURES DO.
Plammon, you need to rewatch that bit and compare with other videos of black people talking about the code switching and how they describe the racial aspect applied to them. we know whites have their own work persona too as do we. there are other layers on top.
y'all need to make just that little extra effort and not assume things are surface level . real life ain't like that AT ALL
The argument isn’t if different cultures change the exact same way from culture to work. That’s what your inserting. We obviously do not change identically from culture to work, no one changes identically, but we all change at work. That’s the point, that we change, not the type of change. They type of change can only be homogenized if our cultures are homogenized. Is that what you’re asking for? One culture?
@@PHlophe you just wrote that entire paragraph to no say anything of substance....
@@davidwavidshmaviderI think you’re being purposely obtuse. They’re describing a very simple sociological concept called “intersectionality”.
As far as being racial. Maybe not to you but to those of color it is. Unless you deal with micro aggressions, you can’t speak on it. Just say that you can’t relate 💁🏽♀️
If the title was flipped, this whole video would be shadow banned 😅
But it's always healthy to hear other people's perspective on things. Especially when the history and recent events haven't been too bright
Why would it be shadow y’all got some racism y’all not telling us about 🤨
It's clickbait…but effective.
Because systemic racism and prejudice against black people is widely prevalent and actively happening. On the other hand, white people don't have to worry about that so essentially there is no need to promote an existing harmful rhetoric that we're still trying to fight against and which has been the case for hundreds of years.
I don't think you're hearing anyone's opinion or perspective on this stuff, that they don't understand by the way, that you aren't spoon-fed all day long when you're online. There was barely any pushback, from sometimes, some very racist and dangerous lines of thought. But, you know, racism is ok so long as it's against white people.
We all know the only way to solve racism in this country is to be racist, albeit in another way. Or to virtue signal about it and just have confused people tell you what to do.
Wdym? I’m constantly reminded what yall feel about me just by opening any social media app 😂
This was so so so much more chill then I thought it would be
Some of this is so cringe… most of it is.
I am glad I did not grow up in this culture.
You saw cringe because you a cringy person. Weird people see only weird around them.
Same thoughts..😳🙄😒
Whats cringe about it?
@@Tata-bd9nx Accountability, which they abhor
13:44 except the Asian restaurant LMAO
Loved this. The conversation was intelligent and unheated, yet honest.
"Intelligent"
😂
wasnt remotely intelligent
Smh what is wrong with y’all
😂😂😂😂.... Oh you're serious
If that's your metric for "intelligent" conversation, our species is SCREWED.
This was amazing. The way it flowed and how everyone respected each others opinion without getting defensive was great. And you can tell they all probably learned something from one another
Sarah was on strongly disagree for the prompt: ‘I have been denied access because of my race’ even though earlier she said when she was in Japan they denied her access while people were there eating.
Immediately noticed that
Because it's trendy to bash on white people apparently
that's not because of race in Japan they deny access to all foreigners
@@xjoseph1 that's race. look up race in the dictionary you clearly have no clue
She was talking about her experience in JAPAN, which she had been denied.
The second question about being denied spaces was about her everyday life in the USA.
I think finding ways to appreciate our lineage is productive, in the sense it is part of our background despite how we feel about it, and we have the chance to play a part in shaping its legacy to our children and others into a better form than how we might have inherited it.
I loved this conversation. I love Corey. Sarah and Mark are smart. Somebody give Kaylyn a hug. Also I think we need to stop thinking that everyone's existence is the same especially in stereotypical ways, there needs to be more grace and more conversations because you have no idea where someone comes from.
Steve leans back in his chair, assessing your words with a discerning gaze. "You seem to be throwing around a lot of names and general statements without providing any context or substance. Let's dive deeper. When you say you love Corey, what specifically draws you to him? And why do you feel the need to mention Sarah and Mark? And when you talk about grace and conversations, what aspect of someone's existence are you referring to? Be specific, and let's get to the heart of the matter."
I do agree with what you're saying about treating everyone's experiencing the same, because it's not. I as a black woman have not experienced racism from white people. It would be unfair for someone who is black who has experienced racism from a a white person to take their experience and use it as the prime experience for all.
We should be aware that there are black people who do experience racism, but that experience is different for every black person.
Whoever Nikki is i really appreciate your points on seismic issues. Because u definitely said what i was thinking well most of it on most of the questions. You have a friend 4 life in me💯💪🏿
I really liked this one. Well done!
That dude who said he would have to search for anti white online content definitely must not be on TikTok.
He's deluding himself
@@thegreatergood8081 i don't use tiktok or twitter, very rarely see anti white stuff outside of others calling it out
Just from my perspective, there seems to be more of it than any other form of racial hate (not saying it's impact is the same just to be clear). It is more socially acceptable in the US it seems (again, my perspective). Ironically, lot of it seems to come from white people (generally younger and female).
Boo hoo
@@Loch1210 you are not required to care about racism.
How can anybody be proud of something they had no control over?
This is a great thought to mull over.
I really like this comment
Typical white guilt provocative question and black complex
it’s called pride. being proud of who you are and whatever your culture is. your ignorance is showing. 🥱😬😂
You get to be proud of it after society has tried to tell you that you are unworthy for being the way you were born.
About being proud of your ethnicity: Why would you be proud of something you did not accomplish? You did not accomplish being born a certain ethnicity, you don't need to dislike it, although it doesn't mean you have to feed your ego because of something that does not have to do with merit.
As a white person the result of the last prompt made me sad and scared for white peoples future. That fact that 3 of the 4 people went to the strongly disagree side just shows what culture is pressuring white people to answer to. We need more people like Sergei who are proud of their culture, but loving of other people. Let's coexist.
Not sure if it’s pressure or just the fact that I genuinely don’t know what to be proud of, ya know? I get the point about being proud to be German or Italian or what have you. But what if you’re white in this country without strong ties to your European roots? What are you supposed to be proud of?
He clarified that he didn't understand the question because for him white and his nationality/ethnicity are synonymous and the confederacy, KKK, slavery, etc. are not the first things that come to mind. For the other 3 and the black people on the panel, it does which is why the 2 strongly disagree girls clarified the distinction or lineage vs. just skin color.
Race vs ethnicity is a different thing
@overlordfemto7523 It’s hard to be proud of The United States, knowing how we got this land. I mean, I’m sure you might disagree and that’s fine, but while I’m grateful to live in The US, it’s hard to feel “proud” of the history. Though I do have faith (and hope) in what the US can one day be.
@@ky4864That's genuinely sad. USA is completely unique. Thrived with a new idea of government, founded on principles ran by the people with a constitution that enshrines natural rights for all people who join us from around the world. Free markets that improved the world through innovation. Protection for countries that would have been conquered, protection of trade routes around the world. Immense amounts of aid after natural disasters around the world. A country that could have conquered the world but instead rebuilt countries in the aftermath of world wars. Spreading influence of progressive ideals that result in more freedom worldwide. Ending slavery, women's rights, gay rights, environmental awareness, ect largely pushed by American culture. I skipped lots of nuance and didn't mention our mistakes but there's plenty to be proud of if we aren't buying the nonsense of reducing us to "evil colonizers".
Thank you for using the term "race-based prejudice" in the prompt rather than simply "racism" I think using the latter term would've resulted in much more arguing over the definition of racism than actually answering the prompt. We spend so much time arguing over the definitions of loaded terms that could be spent coming to an understanding by using words that there's less disagreement over.
i mean if you say ''thats racism'' , it certainly means someone is hating on someone because of their ''race''
I think all the words are confusing and that's what leads to problems in the world, but maybe I just hate abstract thought lol
Yes! The more specific break down of the term really helped with the flow of conversation and kept it to the point.
Exactly. While that's what racism is, some people have decided that it's not. This gives us the discussion we actually want to hear.
I think that terms matter, because how else would we communicate? But I think that we take language too seriously, and give too much weight to certain words resulting in misunderstandings. Like some things that Serg said could have been misinterpreted, but I think everyone understood where he was coming from and that it was probably a language barrier
Thank you for bringing SERGey to discussion. Because his point of view also represents average Ukrainian/European white person point to race discussion. I’m also Ukrainian currently live in Canada and for me it’s so different from Canadian/American white group. Because we were raised in different cultural and historical context. Like it was also common 150 years ago to be “slaves” on our lands for white person. And say N-word isn’t offensive in the most cases we speak, for us any race beside white was just exotic(back to days I haven’t been to the North America).
So it was really interesting to watch!
He added the nuance that was needed. I felt like some of the White participants were trying very hard to accommodate.
@@Maria-mv4ig exactly
I have no hatred for Sergey. He explained his POV as a Ukranian. I might not agree it but at least I know he wasn't trying to offend anyone. It's much different in the US, especially in the southern US, where race is always been an issue.
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