Berrettini is probably the best example of the good strategic work of the italian federation: a player who wasn't great until he turned like 23 but they kept investing on, and at the end he found his way becoming a top 5 and playing a Wimbledon final
I’m not sure why some people think we only follow soccer in Italy-it’s simply not true! We’re passionate about so many other sports. Take motorcycling, for example, with legends like Valentino Rossi. Then there’s skiing, Formula 1, volleyball (where we’re often among the best in the world), and several others. That said, tennis has always been my personal favorite after soccer. At 44 years old, I can confidently say I’m absolutely loving this golden era of the sport! ❤🎾
Buy the Gazzetta (main italian sport newspaper for those who don't know) in August, when plenty of Italians are playing a lot of different sports than soccer, and tell me how many pages, including the headlines, are dedicated to soccer, that in August is not playing, and other sports: probably like 90%. Except a few, nobody is interested in other sports here.
Thanks Andy to underline how great Errani tennis IQ is. One of the greatest double player ever with golden grand slam and a big single carrer (number 5 in the world) with almost no power and no serve
Oh men! How much proud I feel, being an Italian fan of Jannik and all the others, and listening to your discussion! Thank you very much for this video and congratulations for your competence! ❤👋🎾
When I was a junior player, one of the best blessings of our city was that a Challenger event was held there every November, and this was awesome because the pros who came to play it would train where I played for a week. I got to hit and warm up with a few of these pros when I was in my teens, and it just made me love the sport more every time. I think it is valuable for these events to exist in these cities because the younger players get to see the highest levels of the sport with their own eyes, and even maybe get to hit in with these guys too. I was also fortunate enough to have one of the better D1 tennis programs in that city as well, and getting to train with those players as well consistently exploded my and my friends talent.
Excellent recap of the Italian situation, but the only thing I would object - being in Italy myself - is that basketball and volleyball are also very popular here and widely practiced in public schools... And for many years, especially among women, they have "stolen" the tallest athletes from tennis.
I would say that volleyball is the football for women here in Italy. And it's the basic sport played during PE hours. BTW, that's why we are strong in this sport (always been quite strong both for male and female)
Italy right now is the best country in the world when it comes to volleyball, and again it came to this result thanks to the right strategy like forming the Team Italia competing in pro leagues.
it's not only about the challenger. in the last 20 year there was a huge investment on coaches, starting from the club coaches. The federation put out an insane amount of training events for coaches to improve the quality of basic teaching across the board. There was also a sensible increase on the support for young top talents financially, giving them some money to not force them to live their hometowns at a very age making a very hard life choice.
Ten players in the top 100. I like Musetti, Arnaldi and Cobolli. Lots of potential there and Italians are generally hard to beat in any sport. Very organised and tactically very smart.
I'm Italian and I have one question: will Wada appeal on Iga's case like they did with Jannik? That will tell a lot about how players are treated. People saying Jannik was treated better are just blind: wada has almost never appealed in the past. Jannik has been treated awfully not better and in the worst case scenario he could be suspended for 2 years. So, my question remains: will wada show a double standard with Iga? (Fyi, Wada's president is polish, Witold Banka).
Se permetti, ti rispondo io in italiano...Wada può solo ricorrere laddove non consideri congrua la squalifica di un mese per aumentarne la durata. Dubito fortemente lo faccia. I due casi non sono paragonabili perchè, quando si parla di integratore contaminato , la pena va dalla reprimenda fino a due anni ed esiste sempre negligenza, come nel caso di Iga, seppur lieve. Jannik non ha affatto ricevuto un trattamento di favore, anzi. Nel caso di contaminazione con clostebol, laddove si verificasse la minima negligenza, la squalifica o ineleggibilità non potrebbe essere inferiore ai 12 mesi fino a un max di 24 mesi. Il caso di Sinner non è contemplato nei codici Wada e quindi, purtroppo, l'ambito di discrezionalità è variabile. Ovviamente ci sono buone possibilità che non gli venga riconosciuta alcuna negligenza, come avvenuto nelle tre udienze precedenti.
Ummm jannik wants us to believe in a magic massage and got no suspension. Iga did a hair test, was able to prove a contamination and got suspended. Why the fck would WADA appeal her case? It’s not the same and the biased treatment he got for that bs story is insane
@@StewNWT the fact that one player has been treated wrogly should make you hope it won't happen again and that rules get changed, not an unfair treatment for all
There is another record which is more impressive and strangely very few have realized. He is the only male player to lose all his matches in deciders in an year
@@fditrani I believe they said he didn't lose any match in straight sets which is a little different (Federer lost in 4 sets some of his matches back then)
I'm Italian, and it's also a matter of statistics... For 30 years, a number of extremely promising players have failed to rise to the top for various reasons. Florian Allgauer had wonderful tennis skills but lacked the mindset. Yuri Natali had it all but decided to quit. Giacomo Miccini had everything, but he suffered a career-ending injury. Adelchi Virgili had enormous talent and was considered 'the Sinner event' ten years earlier, but a back injury kept him from reaching his potential. Gianluigi Quinzi had the mindset but not the tennis. After 30 years, for the first time, all the sliding doors opened simultaneously, and Sinner fulfilled his talent. SuperTennis TV and the Challenger tournaments have done an excellent job in facilitating the first professional steps of many players, especially from the 2001/2002 generation, which made the breakthrough.
@@markfrench6790 alle ultime olimpiadi di Parigi l'Italia ha vinto 39 medaglie complessive piazzandosi al 7 posto dietro Cina , Usa, Australia, Inghilterra, Francia e Giappone. Sport a 360 gradi .
@@markfrench6790 Italian here as well. After soccer, the most followed sports in Italy are Formula 1 and MotoGP. I’d then assume volleyball, athletics, swimming, and cycling come next. In recent years, tennis has, of course, emerged as a major sport
Jannik Sinner is also talented. He has started playing tennis at 13. Definitely he has received excellent training, however, some people are just natural talent
From the outside there is always the risk of having a stereotyped image of a country, in Italy there are many sports practiced and in many they reach excellence. I'll give you just a small example, there is a small town of 40 thousand inhabitants, Jesi, that if it separated from Italy and became a state in itself it would be among those who have won the most medals, Olympic and world, in the history of fencing (and there have been and there are fencing champions from other places in Italy too)
I can tel, I became a tennis fan since a saw Jannik Sinner playing and his power of heating the ball, 2 years a go, and everytime I ask my self why USA, that has been a top tennis, in these years with a such a big country doesn't have a top player, something has happen, good luck
Italian here, and I have to play the level-headed, you can thank me later. You haven’t considered the current situation of Italian tennis could just be a random result? I mean, the only real difference from what Italian tennis has always been is, well, Sinner. He’a an outlier in our otherwise mediocre male tennis movement. The girls have done great this year, but they're not the best squad we've ever had, we had Pennetta and Schiavone some 10 years ago, they were much better than Paolini. Now, on the male side, Sinner just hauled the whole team on his shoulders, really HE is the Italian tennis movement, the others' duty is simply to be the side dish. If you take away Sinner, not much is left, so much so that even the overly glorified double, was put to the side when the game got tough against Argentina and we had to ask Sinner to play a second match in the same day, in double with his humble squire Berrettini, in a do-or-die 3rd match against Argentina, to remedy the usual low quality performance offered by Musetti against Cerundolo.
Andy top bloke however ... Italy only soccer and tennis??? No, mate. Add volleyball Basketball fencing swimming athletics ski etc etc just read recent Olympics medal tables both winter and summer Oly
Least amount of games ever lost in a World Tour Final. Who did he face? Let's see...de Minaur, Fritz, Medvedev, Ruud and then Fritz in the final. Hmmm...I think even you could win with competition that weak Andy.
Development of Italian tennis and it’s all been reasonable and gradual and realistic even Paolini and then there’s a guy who went from winning one masters in a year to three and two slams but sure hard work :)
That doesn’t surprise me Andy saying he and Mardy were cut early - the USTA is like Democratic national committee - they have an inflated view of their own opinion. Look at how badly they treated Taylor Townsend
This Podcast is such an echo Chamber. I emailed the producer with some viewers feedback and he just ignores.. says a lot about how you approach this. Btw you forgot to mention the ongoing clostebol issues in Italian sports in general.
Please don’t us the Ivy League as a good idea for player development. It’s essentially very wealthy American kids from families that could spend an astronomical amount of money on their child’s tennis development . IMG , Evert . It’s a back door for them to get into the elite schools . If you look at all type of division level schools It’s mostly international students being recruited now and for the very reasons countries like Italy have excellent player development. Namely , accessibility . While American students cannot afford to develop in a similar matter .
Berrettini is probably the best example of the good strategic work of the italian federation: a player who wasn't great until he turned like 23 but they kept investing on, and at the end he found his way becoming a top 5 and playing a Wimbledon final
what do you mean by that? how did the invest in him?
@@francescoonorato465 He gained an Honour Credit (nobody knows how much) from the Fitp to try to make it.
I’m not sure why some people think we only follow soccer in Italy-it’s simply not true! We’re passionate about so many other sports. Take motorcycling, for example, with legends like Valentino Rossi. Then there’s skiing, Formula 1, volleyball (where we’re often among the best in the world), and several others.
That said, tennis has always been my personal favorite after soccer. At 44 years old, I can confidently say I’m absolutely loving this golden era of the sport! ❤🎾
Forza Inter 🖤💙
@@IltamZumraRashuptiIlatim E che vinca il Napoli! ;)
Buy the Gazzetta (main italian sport newspaper for those who don't know) in August, when plenty of Italians are playing a lot of different sports than soccer, and tell me how many pages, including the headlines, are dedicated to soccer, that in August is not playing, and other sports: probably like 90%. Except a few, nobody is interested in other sports here.
Mah, nella mia città ( di provincia) la squadra di calcio locale sappiamo a malapena che esiste e abbiamo il basket di serie A che tutti seguono
@@SoniaGelli-y2o Bellissimo sport! :)
Thanks Andy to underline how great Errani tennis IQ is. One of the greatest double player ever with golden grand slam and a big single carrer (number 5 in the world) with almost no power and no serve
And the only one to fail a doping test due to pasta
Oh men! How much proud I feel, being an Italian fan of Jannik and all the others, and listening to your discussion! Thank you very much for this video and congratulations for your competence! ❤👋🎾
Me too! I am also Italian and so proud of the whole team! Wonderful Italian boys 😊
Thank you Andy your a great guy❤👍🙏 greetings to you from Italy,
Great show Andy, love watching and listening to you guys!!
Thank you, Andy! 🇮🇹
What you say is always very interesting
When I was a junior player, one of the best blessings of our city was that a Challenger event was held there every November, and this was awesome because the pros who came to play it would train where I played for a week. I got to hit and warm up with a few of these pros when I was in my teens, and it just made me love the sport more every time.
I think it is valuable for these events to exist in these cities because the younger players get to see the highest levels of the sport with their own eyes, and even maybe get to hit in with these guys too.
I was also fortunate enough to have one of the better D1 tennis programs in that city as well, and getting to train with those players as well consistently exploded my and my friends talent.
Excellent recap of the Italian situation, but the only thing I would object - being in Italy myself - is that basketball and volleyball are also very popular here and widely practiced in public schools... And for many years, especially among women, they have "stolen" the tallest athletes from tennis.
I would say that volleyball is the football for women here in Italy. And it's the basic sport played during PE hours. BTW, that's why we are strong in this sport (always been quite strong both for male and female)
Italy right now is the best country in the world when it comes to volleyball, and again it came to this result thanks to the right strategy like forming the Team Italia competing in pro leagues.
No one cares about volleyball in 2024
@@diodoruscronus wow bro, you are so edgy! Good for you!
it's not only about the challenger. in the last 20 year there was a huge investment on coaches, starting from the club coaches. The federation put out an insane amount of training events for coaches to improve the quality of basic teaching across the board. There was also a sensible increase on the support for young top talents financially, giving them some money to not force them to live their hometowns at a very age making a very hard life choice.
Grande Andy uno di noi!!! ❤
This model was applied not only to tennis but to other sports, too, such as rugby and athletic, where Italy had huge improvements
Ten players in the top 100. I like Musetti, Arnaldi and Cobolli. Lots of potential there and Italians are generally hard to beat in any sport. Very organised and tactically very smart.
I agree
we r the best right now! forza Italia
Agree sooo much about errani!!!
Number 1 Andy 💪💪💪💪
And the italian federation during covid put challengers in the same city for like 5 consecutive weeks for facilitate the players. Amazing.
Great podcast, thanks.
I'm Italian and I have one question: will Wada appeal on Iga's case like they did with Jannik? That will tell a lot about how players are treated. People saying Jannik was treated better are just blind: wada has almost never appealed in the past. Jannik has been treated awfully not better and in the worst case scenario he could be suspended for 2 years. So, my question remains: will wada show a double standard with Iga? (Fyi, Wada's president is polish, Witold Banka).
Se permetti, ti rispondo io in italiano...Wada può solo ricorrere laddove non consideri congrua la squalifica di un mese per aumentarne la durata. Dubito fortemente lo faccia. I due casi non sono paragonabili perchè, quando si parla di integratore contaminato , la pena va dalla reprimenda fino a due anni ed esiste sempre negligenza, come nel caso di Iga, seppur lieve. Jannik non ha affatto ricevuto un trattamento di favore, anzi. Nel caso di contaminazione con clostebol, laddove si verificasse la minima negligenza, la squalifica o ineleggibilità non potrebbe essere inferiore ai 12 mesi fino a un max di 24 mesi. Il caso di Sinner non è contemplato nei codici Wada e quindi, purtroppo, l'ambito di discrezionalità è variabile. Ovviamente ci sono buone possibilità che non gli venga riconosciuta alcuna negligenza, come avvenuto nelle tre udienze precedenti.
@@chiarag7633 Bravo, ottima spiegazione
That’s my main issue is that Sinner and Swiatek’s cases were handled well, Simona Halep and a few other’s weren’t
Ummm jannik wants us to believe in a magic massage and got no suspension. Iga did a hair test, was able to prove a contamination and got suspended. Why the fck would WADA appeal her case? It’s not the same and the biased treatment he got for that bs story is insane
@@StewNWT the fact that one player has been treated wrogly should make you hope it won't happen again and that rules get changed, not an unfair treatment for all
There is another record which is more impressive and strangely very few have realized. He is the only male player to lose all his matches in deciders in an year
Actually this is the first thing they said
@@fditrani I believe they said he didn't lose any match in straight sets which is a little different (Federer lost in 4 sets some of his matches back then)
I'm Italian, and it's also a matter of statistics... For 30 years, a number of extremely promising players have failed to rise to the top for various reasons. Florian Allgauer had wonderful tennis skills but lacked the mindset. Yuri Natali had it all but decided to quit. Giacomo Miccini had everything, but he suffered a career-ending injury. Adelchi Virgili had enormous talent and was considered 'the Sinner event' ten years earlier, but a back injury kept him from reaching his potential. Gianluigi Quinzi had the mindset but not the tennis. After 30 years, for the first time, all the sliding doors opened simultaneously, and Sinner fulfilled his talent. SuperTennis TV and the Challenger tournaments have done an excellent job in facilitating the first professional steps of many players, especially from the 2001/2002 generation, which made the breakthrough.
Hey...italian here. In Italy there isn't only soccer and tennis, we have many other sports that our youth play!
What is the number 3 sport? Padel or Rugby or maybe basketball?
@@markfrench6790 Traditionally I'd say bball, volleyball and cycling in that order.. Rugby is growing fast
@@markfrench6790Basket and volleyball. But yes soccer and tennis are the most popular. Especially soccer
@@markfrench6790 alle ultime olimpiadi di Parigi l'Italia ha vinto 39 medaglie complessive piazzandosi al 7 posto dietro Cina , Usa, Australia, Inghilterra, Francia e Giappone.
Sport a 360 gradi .
@@markfrench6790 Italian here as well. After soccer, the most followed sports in Italy are Formula 1 and MotoGP. I’d then assume volleyball, athletics, swimming, and cycling come next. In recent years, tennis has, of course, emerged as a major sport
Jannik Sinner is also talented. He has started playing tennis at 13. Definitely he has received excellent training, however, some people are just natural talent
From the outside there is always the risk of having a stereotyped image of a country, in Italy there are many sports practiced and in many they reach excellence.
I'll give you just a small example, there is a small town of 40 thousand inhabitants, Jesi, that if it separated from Italy and became a state in itself it would be among those who have won the most medals, Olympic and world, in the history of fencing (and there have been and there are fencing champions from other places in Italy too)
I can tel, I became a tennis fan since a saw Jannik Sinner playing and his power of heating the ball, 2 years a go, and everytime I ask my self why USA, that has been a top tennis, in these years with a such a big country doesn't have a top player, something has happen, good luck
So glad Jon is back.
I do my best
Someone needs to bring in PavvyG to set the record straight.
Hi. Navratilova in 1983 lost only one match in three sets at the French Open and Graf lost two matches in 1989 in three sets.
Ben shelton and mensik will be the two best rivals of jannik...ben need to know how is good his tennis
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Italian here, and I have to play the level-headed, you can thank me later. You haven’t considered the current situation of Italian tennis could just be a random result? I mean, the only real difference from what Italian tennis has always been is, well, Sinner. He’a an outlier in our otherwise mediocre male tennis movement. The girls have done great this year, but they're not the best squad we've ever had, we had Pennetta and Schiavone some 10 years ago, they were much better than Paolini. Now, on the male side, Sinner just hauled the whole team on his shoulders, really HE is the Italian tennis movement, the others' duty is simply to be the side dish. If you take away Sinner, not much is left, so much so that even the overly glorified double, was put to the side when the game got tough against Argentina and we had to ask Sinner to play a second match in the same day, in double with his humble squire Berrettini, in a do-or-die 3rd match against Argentina, to remedy the usual low quality performance offered by Musetti against Cerundolo.
Andy top bloke however ... Italy only soccer and tennis??? No, mate. Add volleyball Basketball fencing swimming athletics ski etc etc just read recent Olympics medal tables both winter and summer Oly
Italy can easily if they want win the next 5 Davis cups in a row
Least amount of games ever lost in a World Tour Final. Who did he face? Let's see...de Minaur, Fritz, Medvedev, Ruud and then Fritz in the final. Hmmm...I think even you could win with competition that weak Andy.
Development of Italian tennis and it’s all been reasonable and gradual and realistic even Paolini and then there’s a guy who went from winning one masters in a year to three and two slams but sure hard work :)
That doesn’t surprise me Andy saying he and Mardy were cut early - the USTA is like Democratic national committee - they have an inflated view of their own opinion. Look at how badly they treated Taylor Townsend
This Podcast is such an echo Chamber. I emailed the producer with some viewers feedback and he just ignores.. says a lot about how you approach this. Btw you forgot to mention the ongoing clostebol issues in Italian sports in general.
Please don’t us the Ivy League as a good idea for player development. It’s essentially very wealthy American kids from families that could spend an astronomical amount of money on their child’s tennis development . IMG , Evert . It’s a back door for them to get into the elite schools . If you look at all type of division level schools It’s mostly international students being recruited now and for the very reasons countries like Italy have excellent player development. Namely , accessibility . While American students cannot afford to develop in a similar matter .
Better look out for the commercial break Wertheim....sports journalist indeed....? hypocrite more like.
The doping year. That's all
Womp womp🍼