Thank you Andy for saying what I have been saying for years. Test for enhancing levels. These micro-level positive tests are giving tennis a perception of a doping problem that doesn't exist.
@@user-sg8xd6tu5u Not when someone is contaminated without their knowledge. And if it's too low to be performance enhancing, why is it even called doping?
The only podcast i go to if i want to know facts and no- bs conversations👏👏👏 i will add that the whole doping/ contamination situation with Jannik, Swiatek is ridiculous. Do we expect people eat plain rise and an egg a day? What kind of weird rules these organisations are setting up? Athletes are people like all of us, they should be allowed to drink and eat regular foods and drinks or supplements without being scared to be tested positive. This could have a great impact on their mental health. Something has to change in these organisations!
Finally, someone who says it as it is. Well done Andy! I totally agree with his take, we should look for things that enhance performances, and if they don't, when and if the tests return positive then we should have a system that gives a warning to the players and only after that warning a suspension could/should be granted. This would be just logical.
Magnificent! An athlete can make their cycle of Oxandrolone and get tested when the drug is leaving the body. As its below enhancing level we all laugh and cheer. Roddick has gone off the rails. He knows he is lying. Drugs that athletes use leave the body quickly. Testing at enhancing levels is impossible. No athlete is that stupid. You'd have to draw blood or urine 2 hours tops after inyection or oral consumption.
I wish Nick Kyrios could educate himself on this bc he gives misinformation about double standards (blaming and pointing fingers) and it gives people misleading information. Thanks for saying this about jannik before and Thankyou for saying it now about Iga.
@@christiaanliebenberg5645Kyrgios is right to speak double standard. Top tennis players like IGA And Sinners have to get them ban like any others players. Full stop. Halep suffered for two years as well as many others too. Why not double standard . Please explain .
Andy you were and still are one of the most honest player I have ever seen. Never seen you come up with an excuse when you lost. You are honest and not pretentious
100% agree!! Roddick understands the difference between doping and drug contamination, especially since the hair tests showed it was clean, so Iga had not taken any substances before
El tenis siguiendo el mismo camino que el ciclismo.Credibilidad cero.Es dopaje sin más.Con los tramposos dura sanción y punto nada de paños calientes.😊
Thanks guys. I really enjoyed this podcast. Andy, your take on the Sinner/Swiatek situation comes from a real commonsense perspective and it's about time that the anti-doping authorities cleaned up their act (no pun intended) so there's greater clarity, sensitivity and consistency. Your "Anything Goes" Q&A segment is refreshing and funny, so I think you should definitely do it again.
8:39 That is indeed what they are saying, Iga got a 1 month suspension because it is not possible for it to be considered no negligence (which is what they ruled in Sinner's case) with a contaminated supplement. This is because they say that you "accept the risk" of contamination by taking a supplement. It's quite frankly ridiculous in my opinion that you get a suspension for something you did not gain an advantage from and that you did not do on purpose.
It was medication. Under EU regulations. It was actually safer taking it than any supplement cause the risk of contaminated medication is lower. Anyway it honestly is all crazy
@@dariusz_darson_8968 but that is also why she got just 1 month instead of several like in some other contamination cases. They use the fact that it was a drug in their ruling.
I agree with you 100%. There should be a completely different response from the antidoping agencies to doping (i.e. cheating) and involuntary contamination. ITIA/WADA have limited resources, they should concentrate their efforts on actual doping. Where they accept that the amount of substance is consistent with involuntary contamination, they know there could not possibly have been a competitive advantage, and the "negligence" is practically non-existent, the "punishment" should be on a much lower scale. Possibly having to submit to more frequent testing for a period of time or something similar, rather than lengthy suspensions. Just my opinion.
Seems logical but then again WADA are not unknown for their bias....just take Kenyan athletes for an example...they know they're doping and do barely nothing to stop it.
@@FlorianaLions Serena took 8 TUE, very strong substances since 2010 till 2022 and WADA did NOTHING because she was black American. Serena literally took corticosteroids, blood flow enhancers and asthma drugs taken also by famous Norwegian "Team Asthma" (Marit Bjoergen/Therese Johaug, asthmatics who won with other skiers by 3 minutes since they got the drug) and Djokovic/Kvitova/Mattek Sands.
Do you guys not get half-life? One picogram could’ve been a full dose 2-3 weeks prior to the test and simply has metabolized. That’s why they test for trace amounts.
Best episode yet. I appreciate you distinguishing between a positive test and a clinically significant test. The same thing exists in medicine. The Anything Goes segment was so good. I love that he didn’t hold back. My favorite episode yet! Thanks!
As a laboratory owner, we understand the challenges when cutting-edge technology, HPLC - MS/MS, reveals trace contaminants at infinitesimal levels. This sensitivity at Parts Per Billion (PPB) presents complex ethical and regulatory dilemmas. The recent case involving Iga Swiatek highlights these complexities. While the positive test result was undoubtedly alarming, it's crucial to consider the context. The level of TMZ detected at .05 PPB along with evidence of contamination from a GMP manufacturer, suggests an unintentional exposure and not doping. We can’t unscramble the egg. Iga’s case will cause changes in the doping regulations. Andy, you are astute, and you get right to the heart of the issues. You and Iga won't, but a lot of people will have egg on their face.
I guess the argument is that when there is real doping and an attempt to mask it, the result is trace amounts of whatever. Also, as I uderstand it, elimination-half life is extremely variable as well. But in general, I have to agree with Andy, everything is contaminated these days. These athletes need to have a life.
@@rubyruby4368Don’t say that, this is a Pro Andy forum so they’ll agree to pretty much anything that he says. It’s like going to Djokovic forum and speaking truth about him. Even though you’re right, they will hate on you because let’s be honest, people are allergic to #TheTruth because the truth hurts.
andy, please also highlight that per one doctor, iga was one of the most monitored player for years and rarely a player was tested as frequently as iga. who in her right mind would even think of doping when she is aware that she is being unfairly subjected to tests all the time? and dont get why she is tested the most among the girls? that should be inquired into, given that SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLEAN ALL THESE YEARS UNTIL THIS TERRIBLE CONTAMINATION. it was clear injustice to iga.
@00-ts5ow Iga is not and has not been the only player most monitored. Take Serena Williams, she was monitored all the time, tested any day or night. I suppose it happens to all players that dominate the number 1 ranking.
The WADA director commented that the fact that the tests are now so much more sensitive is why so many contamination cases are coming up now - in the past, it properly happened and wasn't picked up. Something definitely needs to change. I know the counter argument will be that trace amounts can be the end of a doping cycle that haven't cleared the body and it will be open to exploitation. I don't know the solution tbh.
A solution could be to determine a threshold based on the sampling rate of athletes. Let’s set a minimum time span between consecutive samplings. A threshold can then be established to ensure that a positive test is not merely an echo of a significant dosage. Scientists should determine this number based on mathematical models of the fading rates of various substances. Does this make sense to you?
I said the exakt thing a weekend ago. Since testing equipment has become better and better, maybe there should be limits for when results should be taken into consideration.
I have worked for 41 years in nuclear industry. Every couple of weeks we purge the containment bldg, which houses the reactor, to the atmosphere and all we have to do is to ensure that the radioactive release is below a certain treshold. NOT ZERO - but acceptable level for a public health. So, it is shocking to hear that the ati-doping agencies don't have some kind of treshold of acceptable limits that would indicate accidental contamination. Test that showed traces of contamination would be discussed with the player to look into their vitamins, etc. Dopers are not that difficult to catch with a biological passports and testing. Contamination is also easy to distinguish from doping. Iga had 20 tests this year. All negative except one. After first night from arrival to Cincinnati from Paris. Negative test in Paris, negative test before US open. Cincinnati is not the "prize" tennis player would be doping for.
Saw what you did there @andyroddick : when you took a jab at kyrgios and shapovalov when you said "when they f up and are down they ask for forgiveness that they themselves don't give to others" I felt that attack
Both Kyrgios and Sharapovlov are great examples of of the saying ‘Opinions are like arseholes. Everybody got one and they all stinks’. Both pick on one fact and double down on that to make the situation looks a lot worse than it is. At least Andy looks at the situation a lot more broadly to come up with a more considered view.
@andyc7011 agree. Their "opinions" are very extreme and hateful. These accidents could have happened to them and yet they don't seem to be open to empathy.
Not everyone is empathetic towards doping. And you don’t have to be really. A lot of people think you get caught with steroids in your system you get banned.
The point is this. The legal amount is zero. That's zero. All players should get the same treatment in regards to testing, outcomes and waiting until the news is released as well as waiting until they find out their sentence. This has not happened in the case of these two top players. It's not about the players. Of course they did not need to dope. They did not want to dope. The inequality is the problem. Kyrgios is part of the PTPA which works on behalf of the players who cannot afford a top lawyer. He is not hating on anyone. Or he wasn't until sinnerfam strted attacking him like a bunch of Italian jackals.
@@Simon-zl6ek Their opinions are not extreme or hateful. They represent the opinions of all concerned sports fans and pros who say: equality of treatment and sentencing of all players is paramount. It doesn't matter who they are or where they stand on the ladder. Or how much money they earn or bring to the sport. These two are amazing players. Tennis needs them. It's a tragedy this has happened to them. It should have been dealt with immediately last March. It wasn't.
Andy, I think you’re confused. Sinner’s trial is not confirmed for February 11th, but we’ve seen the CAS schedule up to February 11th and he is not on it, so we know the trial will be AFTER February 11th.
so great to hear the voice of reasonable person, i agree with every word you said. thank you for that podcast, it can give a big perspective from someone who knows this sport a little better than a fan
The problem with setting thresholds for drugs Andy, is that is really really hard from a medical standpoint to establish at what concentration and during how many days you have to take something to conclusively have performance enhancements. You have to do clinical trials with participants taking it and participants not taking it and have a statistically significant difference in order to prove it, and to have to do that with the same drug at 0.001 concentration, then 0.002, then 0.003 and so on, for X days then X days +1, X+2 etc etc. And that just for one substance, which does not transfer automatically to the next . You are looking at +200 years of research if you start today, it is waaay more realistic to ban the substance altogether for the control agencies. There is not easy solution…
I hear what you're saying, but I would argue that it's a lot harder to be world #1 at tennis than it is to develop those thresholds. It's only going to keep getting harder as new ways to cheat are being developed all the the time.
@@macross8767unfortunately for athletes, it is biology and this agencies can’t make rules up, you are hold to scientific standards and while logic dictates that a ridiculously small quantity of a substance should not enhance performance, as long as you cannot prove it, you cannot approve something. As you well said, people are searching constantly a way to beat the system so if you find a molecule that enhances performance at a ridiculously small amount, it flies under the radar
I’m not sure 200+ years is an accurate estimate. What we want is to have a threshold that depends on the sampling rate, to avoid a positive test being an echo of a significant dosage. We should establish a minimum sampling rate, and then for each substance, a threshold can be computed based on its fading rate. We could start by doing this for the most recurrent substances to address the most numerous cases first.
You're so right! They should for fuck sake improve their testing strategies for micro-dosing and not ruin people's careers. Their number one rule should be as in medicine: First do no harm.
Greag podcast 🎉🎉🎉 Thanks for sharing a lot of insights into your career! Hope that Jannik will be cleared of the accusations 😊😊😊❤ Iga will shine next season!
Every case of doping is individual. It is just how it is. WE have details of Swiatek and Sinners case. We need to focus on them. And then it is clear - accusations of cheating are RIDICULLOUS in both cases. They should not have any penalties. They had gain nothing, they had no fault in getting those substances in theirs bodies as well. End of story. Rules penalising sportsman just because are st*pid.
What's more, equalising it with RUSSIAN *systematic*, *organised* and *goverment controlled* doping system they developed to cheat ALL WORLD in every discipline possible is a crime itself.
I love this podcast and keep up the nice work. But Andy and Jon continue to overlook a major distinction in the Jannik Sinner case that makes all the difference (IMHO). Unlike Simone Halep and even Iga Swiatek, Sinner didn't ingest anything into his own body. Nor was any medication applied to him. Halep and Swiatek may have taken the stuff in all innocence (credibly, in my opinion), but they did take the stuff directly. In Sinner's case, his trainer used a cut medication on his - the trainer's - body. He figured a medication that he used on his own cut couldn't possibly have a medical effect on Sinner, in which he was entirely right, and wouldn't show up in a urinalysis, in which he was entirely wrong. He was not aware of how impossibly sensitive the tests are. Are we saying that Sinner is responsible for a medical treatment that his trainer uses for the trainer's purposes that did not, and could not possibly have had, any effect on Sinner? Are you KIDDING me? It's one thing to say an athlete is responsible for treatments on his physique, quite another to say he bears responsibility for his team's treatment of their own individual ailments, and the random chance that some stray molecules might end up in his urine. You may call me the king of the softies, but I don't think anyone is negligent here, and I include Sinner's trainer. I think the appeal of WADA is completely misguided. This of course turns on accepting Sinner's account. But the ITIA already has. More than that, it matches receipts that Sinner was able to provide, the absurdly small amount detected, the timing of the tests, and the fact that similar cross contamination suffered by other Italian athletes. That medicine is evidently pretty good medicine. WADA should have let this whole thing die a merciful death. As it is, I hope it gets the black eye it has coming to it.
Hi Andy, I don't think Sinner's date is set for 11th February- the date is still unknown. The CAS schedule has been published up to 11th February and Sinner's case isn't on it so it is assumed it won't happen BEFORE that. We still don't know.
Fantastic episode Andy and the team. It is so great to hear a perspective in a way, that you dont need to include premature statements without clearly stating the facts. This episode can be very useful, since i am currently working on my law doctorate degree an doping is part of it. There clearly must be some kind of change on international level since when there is some substance allowed in specific country and then on tour is banned (double standards also in this area). Second part of this show was amazing to get unprepared Andy answering very interesting questions of Jon. I saw name of Kyrgios mentioned copuple of times in comment section - so he is kind of an example where if you are trying really hard for respect and hearing your voice outside of the courts, it can be contra-productive. His portrait and public view of it is only his doing, basically you like to punch, sometimes you have to able to receive. But, thats the way it is these days - that if you want to have platform outside of the sports, you have to be on the edge, but he is clearly unable to managing it.
BTW, please would you be able to check the accuracy of stating there is a date (12 Feb) for Sinner's CAS hearing? my understanding is that CAS have published their hearings diary up to 11 February, and Sinner's case is not listed, however, there are no cases listed in January at all. It seems a bit of a leap to expect the Sinner's hearing to take place on 12 February.
Congratulations! So de(served). Sorry, had to do it! And thank you for mentioning the chirpers, super rational people, and also those and maybe one person especially who don’t/doesn’t give grace or any kind of compassion when they out of almost anyone needed it the most. Thirsty thoughtless people aka trolls bother me endlessly too. I try not to let it but lose that battle almost every time. Anyway, the podcast is so good and landing with Vox is awesome and great fit. congrats again!
Very important remarks on the so called dopping cases recently. Thank you, Andy. And also, I'm so glad "Served" is joining Vox Media! Great news. Love this podcast.
Also, on the topic of Andre's book. It's my go to anytime you have the "what book do you recommend" or "what book has had an impact on your life" question come up, and it's true in both cases. As a single, childless dude who liked tennis, it was an insight as to the pressures of stardom, of how someone would manage such a life with kids and a wife. It also left a big mark on me, even childless, I knew exactly how I would push my kids, and what I would avoid doing. Fast forward a few years, I'm older than when Andre wrote the book and I still find so much value in it. I re-read it some months ago and I was even more distraught by it. I recommended it to my wife and she was so mortified on the sections dealing with his childhood that she stopped reading it because it was adding to her already existing levels of stress. I feel happy with the balance I've done so far as a parent, if anything, now that my kids are slightly older I feel comfortable pushing them a bit more, since I think I know them well enough, but also they know me well enough to know that if I'm being insistent on something, it's not to be a mean jerk to them. Also, Andre is my go to on how to go on how I should go about complementing publicly my wife. I'm so happy to have married someone who is awesome-er, smarter, and all around better than me, that it's easy to compliment them, and I see how Andre complements Steffi as a blueprint of how to do it on myself, especially on more "public" levels, even if my public level is much smaller than the crowd AA would be involved in.
Congrats on the deal with Vox Media. Well deserved. Agree with Andy regarding testing for non performance enhancing levels. If it's not improving performance, what are we doing? Also enjoyed the Q & A with Jon and Andy. Thanks for doing this impromptu pod when breaking news happens. The flexibility is appreciated.
Andy, love the show and congrats on your new partnership. On one of your next episodes, would you please discuss if current pro tennis players might be reevaluating their diet/supplement intake after these news? Like, if you were an active player right now, what would you be discussing with your team? What are feasible protection protocols for an active player in short of sending everything to the lab before ingesting it?
In my opinion even three months is way too much. They already said he did not have any performance improvement, so what? How can he controls everything his team is doing outside the tennis court?
I think that it would be fair to give him more suspension than Iga had, because it depended on his team, because they were irresponsible, but I think two months will be the right decision, three months definitely to much
How the fuck can something be called “no fault, no negligence” and punishment still be dished out. “Well sir we found you not guilty of robbery, but how about you spend a year in prison just cause we want to justify spending all this money on your trial, and because one time when you were a child you took 2 pieces of candy from a Halloween bucket when you were only supposed to take one”…make that make sense.
The testing system must be changed and fast! Why do players have to be manipulated like this? If Jannick Sinner is suspended for anything more than a couple of months all the players ATP & WTA should protest. This absurd system of punishing players for minute traces of unharmful substances has got to stop! Sorry for ranting, I absolutely love Served and Andy is the best ❤
Uno dei campioni che analizza veramente i fatti. Bravo ANDY oltre ad essere un grande campione sei anche un grande uomo. Avessero tutti la tua intelligenza nel valutare i fatti. BRAVOOOOOO
Hey Andy! “No significant negligence” by ITIA means that there shouldn’t be a WADA appeal, but that forced some length of ban. One month for Iga after her suspension seems like the shortest possible compromise. 18 year old Bartůňkova got 6 months for a contamination through a supplement, as was proven by a lab. The Sinner case is distinct because it is plausible that he got contaminated by his team, which means that he could have been not negligent at all - as the ITIA concluded. CAS will decide on it, but if they add significant to “no negligence”, we could have a situation where Ferrara, his negligent expert can work while the athlete he compromised is banned…
I’m basically with you on this one Andy. Shouldn’t a little common sense prevail in these cases. Is there really anyone out there that believes that having one/one millionth part of these drugs in your system enhanced their performance? Imagine having the equivalent of one eye drop of beer in your system and being arrested for DWI
That's a good one (the eye drop of beer). Totally agree with you. The issue is also the fact that the pharmaceutical company, which produced the contaminated Melatonin cannot be liable, because the contamination is below the acceptable threshold set for the industry. I read that on Polish newspaper.
Congrats Andy I always figured something like this would happen. I know you will maintain your creative content. As to conflating contamination with doping people need to STFU. I'm definitely a Carlos fanboy > Sinner but all this hate on Jannick is just INSANE. I just want to make sure that all players are treated fairly.
Congratulations on landing the sponsor! I have been following this every week since the French Open. While the timestamps are great, I'd love to see more 2-4 minute videos. They're quicker and make it easier to jump in and out.
Congratulations on the podcast show news! … I agree with you entirely on the doping crap… Start penalizing when the levels of substances detected enhance performance👍
Thank you Andy You are down to Earth guy with an experience Stop the mini mini mini shit and worry about serious dope helping player with intensity of game Thank you again for standing up for Iga Big bravo towards you
Please before doubting Sinner consider experts have carried (there's a study by professor Kintz) out tests in controlled environment and recreated the thing that happened to Jannik and found the same results in their study. That's what expert evidence means.
All I know, and for selfish reasons, if they decide to sanction and force this new an amazing jewel that is Jannick Sinner to not play for however long they decide to sanction him for, would be such a shame and deprive us from witnessing the incredible development and progress of this truly astonishing player that is already rewriting history. I’m so excited every time he takes the court, I never thought I felt that way again after RF. Don’t get me wrong I love Alcatraz, but what Sinner as achieved this year was mind blowing and as a spectator and a huge tennis fan, that’s what you want to be part of. So fingers crossed, I hope this organization is not going to do something stupid that would enrage the tennis fan community and allow us to marvel at this unique athlete for the coming year. My two cents!
Finally someone on UA-cam pointed out, that in Sinner’s case there was a member of his team who made a mistake. But nobody from Iga’s team had any influence Thank you ❤ Hope your opinion and video will convince a lot of people
It’s still Jannik’s mistake though? You can just blame others for your problems. You’re ultimately responsible for what goes into your own body. Intentional or not.
Nothing actually went into Sinner's body. The trainer used the medication on himself. The billionth of a part reflects that. The WADA appeal is absurd.
@@Ladybug211211 Jannik is still responsible though. That’s why WADA is appealing. Jannik was this person’s employer and as his employer he assumes responsibility. Otherwise every professional athlete would get away with situations like these. You can’t just blame someone else for their mistakes. That’s not how it works when you’re a professional athlete.
I like the Anything Goes segment. I'm fascinated by the behind-the-scenes life of a tennis player. It's a lot of routine and learning to deal with loss, but there are moments when you feel great pride and success too. On the drug test thing, I don't know enough about the intricacies of testing to make any bold statements, but I wonder if the reason drugs are outright banned rather than a focus on quantities above and below performance-enhancing levels is that the level isn't the same for everyone and players would never really know if they were taking too much and would accidentally go over thus opening another can of worms. In short, it is just easier to ban stuff outright. Still, the whole contamination thing is a nightmare. If there is something in or on something you are legally allowed to ingest? That's a bloody nightmare. Great video.
I totally agree with you. These micro amounts are just ridiculous. I don't think either Sinner or Swiatek were trying to enhance their performance. Also WADA taking so long with these cases is ridiculous. All the testing and investigating has been done.
It's CAS that is taking the time.. it was ages before Halep got her appeal though worse in her case as she was banned from playing. Though it can't be a laugh a minute for Sinner either having it hanging over him.
Hey Andy I just realized that you have a form of skin cancer. When I asked about it a few weeks ago I had not actually searched it and so I apologize if I was insensitive to it but good on you for spreading the word as I see you have done. As a black guy who spent all of his life hitting tennis and being outside I am thankful that my cavalier approach to this issue was not punished. Kinda played on my genetics and that's not smart so at 60 I am going to start using it now (whatever I'm gonna die soon anyway LOL) I've been a fan of yours since you hit the scene and still to this day. We need you in that chair.
I think giving iga a suspension is absolutely ridiculous. Sinner at least has some responsibility! I'm not saying he was doping voluntarily to enhance performance, but his team was handling a banded substance. You can absolutely suspend him for that (3 months i think is fair). But again I don't see how you suspend iga for taking a legal sleeping pill that was contaminated.
Andy mentioned a date for Sinner’s case on the podcast. They have all upcoming hearings listed and I don’t see a date on the CAS website through 02/11/25.
Thank you Andy for saying what I have been saying for years. Test for enhancing levels. These micro-level positive tests are giving tennis a perception of a doping problem that doesn't exist.
micro level positive is a sign of doping lol
@@user-sg8xd6tu5u Not when someone is contaminated without their knowledge. And if it's too low to be performance enhancing, why is it even called doping?
@@billiey36 stop it
@@user-sg8xd6tu5u You're wrong and your weak short answer shows a lack of understanding of basic pharmacology
Micro doses can be used as masking agents for EPO
Thank you for this, Andy. Thank you for looking at the facts instead of reacting emotionally like a lot of people have.
The only podcast i go to if i want to know facts and no- bs conversations👏👏👏 i will add that the whole doping/ contamination situation with Jannik, Swiatek is ridiculous. Do we expect people eat plain rise and an egg a day? What kind of weird rules these organisations are setting up? Athletes are people like all of us, they should be allowed to drink and eat regular foods and drinks or supplements without being scared to be tested positive. This could have a great impact on their mental health. Something has to change in these organisations!
Finally a voice of reason!
Finally, someone who says it as it is. Well done Andy! I totally agree with his take, we should look for things that enhance performances, and if they don't, when and if the tests return positive then we should have a system that gives a warning to the players and only after that warning a suspension could/should be granted. This would be just logical.
Magnificent! An athlete can make their cycle of Oxandrolone and get tested when the drug is leaving the body. As its below enhancing level we all laugh and cheer. Roddick has gone off the rails. He knows he is lying. Drugs that athletes use leave the body quickly. Testing at enhancing levels is impossible. No athlete is that stupid. You'd have to draw blood or urine 2 hours tops after inyection or oral consumption.
I wish Nick Kyrios could educate himself on this bc he gives misinformation about double standards (blaming and pointing fingers) and it gives people misleading information. Thanks for saying this about jannik before and Thankyou for saying it now about Iga.
You are correct. However, you are expecting too much of Kirgios. He does not possess the nuance to educate himself.
@@christiaanliebenberg5645Kyrgios is right to speak double standard. Top tennis players like IGA And Sinners have to get them ban like any others players. Full stop. Halep suffered for two years as well as many others too. Why not double standard . Please explain .
Andy you were and still are one of the most honest player I have ever seen.
Never seen you come up with an excuse when you lost. You are honest and not pretentious
Finally intelligent guy! They should ban all clovns like Kyrgios from social media spreading silly comments!
100% agree!! Roddick understands the difference between doping and drug contamination, especially since the hair tests showed it was clean, so Iga had not taken any substances before
Who cares if your system had positive results you need to be punished for 1 year.
Doping is doping under the rules though. Just because Andy thinks it should change doesn’t mean it will. Under the current rules this doesn’t apply.
El tenis siguiendo el mismo camino que el ciclismo.Credibilidad cero.Es dopaje sin más.Con los tramposos dura sanción y punto nada de paños calientes.😊
Thank you Andy.
This is by far the best Tennis podcast available.
It really is!
Nothing Major is defo second best tho
Thank You Andy .I love You Iga Światek♥
Thanks guys. I really enjoyed this podcast. Andy, your take on the Sinner/Swiatek situation comes from a real commonsense perspective and it's about time that the anti-doping authorities cleaned up their act (no pun intended) so there's greater clarity, sensitivity and consistency.
Your "Anything Goes" Q&A segment is refreshing and funny, so I think you should definitely do it again.
8:39 That is indeed what they are saying, Iga got a 1 month suspension because it is not possible for it to be considered no negligence (which is what they ruled in Sinner's case) with a contaminated supplement. This is because they say that you "accept the risk" of contamination by taking a supplement.
It's quite frankly ridiculous in my opinion that you get a suspension for something you did not gain an advantage from and that you did not do on purpose.
It was medication. Under EU regulations. It was actually safer taking it than any supplement cause the risk of contaminated medication is lower.
Anyway it honestly is all crazy
@@dariusz_darson_8968 Makes it even crazier.
@@dariusz_darson_8968 but that is also why she got just 1 month instead of several like in some other contamination cases. They use the fact that it was a drug in their ruling.
I agree there needs to be a set standard on what is enhancement . Another good podcast. Thank you.
I agree with you 100%. There should be a completely different response from the antidoping agencies to doping (i.e. cheating) and involuntary contamination. ITIA/WADA have limited resources, they should concentrate their efforts on actual doping. Where they accept that the amount of substance is consistent with involuntary contamination, they know there could not possibly have been a competitive advantage, and the "negligence" is practically non-existent, the "punishment" should be on a much lower scale. Possibly having to submit to more frequent testing for a period of time or something similar, rather than lengthy suspensions. Just my opinion.
Seems logical but then again WADA are not unknown for their bias....just take Kenyan athletes for an example...they know they're doping and do barely nothing to stop it.
Iga Swiatek has been tested 20 times this year alone. Also shortly before and after the unlucky test.
@@FlorianaLions Serena took 8 TUE, very strong substances since 2010 till 2022 and WADA did NOTHING because she was black American.
Serena literally took corticosteroids, blood flow enhancers and asthma drugs taken also by famous Norwegian "Team Asthma" (Marit Bjoergen/Therese Johaug, asthmatics who won with other skiers by 3 minutes since they got the drug) and Djokovic/Kvitova/Mattek Sands.
So it’s okay to be found with a banned substance in your body then? Just because it’s convenient for Jannik and Iga?
Do you guys not get half-life? One picogram could’ve been a full dose 2-3 weeks prior to the test and simply has metabolized. That’s why they test for trace amounts.
Best episode yet. I appreciate you distinguishing between a positive test and a clinically significant test. The same thing exists in medicine.
The Anything Goes segment was so good. I love that he didn’t hold back. My favorite episode yet! Thanks!
Bless your soul, Andy. What is sad is that simple words of sanity and reason come from so few mouths.
Congrats on the Vox deal!
As a laboratory owner, we understand the challenges when cutting-edge technology, HPLC - MS/MS, reveals trace contaminants at infinitesimal levels. This sensitivity at Parts Per Billion (PPB) presents complex ethical and regulatory dilemmas.
The recent case involving Iga Swiatek highlights these complexities. While the positive test result was undoubtedly alarming, it's crucial to consider the context. The level of TMZ detected at .05 PPB along with evidence of contamination from a GMP manufacturer, suggests an unintentional exposure and not doping.
We can’t unscramble the egg. Iga’s case will cause changes in the doping regulations. Andy, you are astute, and you get right to the heart of the issues. You and Iga won't, but a lot of people will have egg on their face.
I guess the argument is that when there is real doping and an attempt to mask it, the result is trace amounts of whatever. Also, as I uderstand it, elimination-half life is extremely variable as well. But in general, I have to agree with Andy, everything is contaminated these days. These athletes need to have a life.
Iga is a doper.
@@rubyruby4368Don’t say that, this is a Pro Andy forum so they’ll agree to pretty much anything that he says. It’s like going to Djokovic forum and speaking truth about him. Even though you’re right, they will hate on you because let’s be honest, people are allergic to #TheTruth because the truth hurts.
@@rubyruby4368 Engage your brain.
@@thetruthhurtsu What is your IQ? Since you cannot comprehend simple facts.
We need more of Andy’s personal talk. Love it
favorite episode, keep this format pls
andy, please also highlight that per one doctor, iga was one of the most monitored player for years and rarely a player was tested as frequently as iga. who in her right mind would even think of doping when she is aware that she is being unfairly subjected to tests all the time? and dont get why she is tested the most among the girls? that should be inquired into, given that SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLEAN ALL THESE YEARS UNTIL THIS TERRIBLE CONTAMINATION. it was clear injustice to iga.
Which doctor?How would s/he know? Let me guess, s/he's Polish?
How is it an injustice? She was just tested.
@@ranonanon2558 French, you're welcome.
@00-ts5ow Iga is not and has not been the only player most monitored. Take Serena Williams, she was monitored all the time, tested any day or night. I suppose it happens to all players that dominate the number 1 ranking.
The WADA director commented that the fact that the tests are now so much more sensitive is why so many contamination cases are coming up now - in the past, it properly happened and wasn't picked up. Something definitely needs to change. I know the counter argument will be that trace amounts can be the end of a doping cycle that haven't cleared the body and it will be open to exploitation. I don't know the solution tbh.
Yea, her attitude, and second drug testing altogether.
A solution could be to determine a threshold based on the sampling rate of athletes. Let’s set a minimum time span between consecutive samplings. A threshold can then be established to ensure that a positive test is not merely an echo of a significant dosage. Scientists should determine this number based on mathematical models of the fading rates of various substances. Does this make sense to you?
@@Pfaz001 Yes I think they would need to do something like this
I said the exakt thing a weekend ago. Since testing equipment has become better and better, maybe there should be limits for when results should be taken into consideration.
I have worked for 41 years in nuclear industry. Every couple of weeks we purge the containment bldg, which houses the reactor, to the atmosphere and all we have to do is to ensure that the radioactive release is below a certain treshold. NOT ZERO - but acceptable level for a public health. So, it is shocking to hear that the ati-doping agencies don't have some kind of treshold of acceptable limits that would indicate accidental contamination. Test that showed traces of contamination would be discussed with the player to look into their vitamins, etc. Dopers are not that difficult to catch with a biological passports and testing. Contamination is also easy to distinguish from doping. Iga had 20 tests this year. All negative except one. After first night from arrival to Cincinnati from Paris. Negative test in Paris, negative test before US open. Cincinnati is not the "prize" tennis player would be doping for.
@ you’re a 41 year old nuclear liar! Stop with this nonsense simply because your fav DOPER got BUSTED?!!! 😂
@@thetruthhurtsu Stpd said what stpd knows.
Why tf do they even bother when Sinner Halep and Swiatek performances where not even enhanced? I dont get WADA and the doping rules
So now you know if someone who takes a ban substance is enhancing their performance or not? 🤡
I mean, the punishment is absurd, ok 1 month for Iga i can accept, but for Jannik they asked for 1-2 years...two years could ruin a career
@@scara19 maybe he shouldn’t get a massage from a trainer with open cuts when he has open sores using a band substance? Lol
It enhanced Halep’s performance, in Sinner and Iga’s case, I think they should check but not suspend
It helps them to dope. Don't be so dense.
thanks for being so honest and open, andy. this podcast/video is a fantastic watch/listen as a result
Huge congrats team for virtually a year of top quality, differentiated content. You hugely deserve your deal with Vox, very excited for you.
“They’ve never put in two good days of work together simultaneously in their lives”. 😂. On point. 👏🏽
Saw what you did there @andyroddick : when you took a jab at kyrgios and shapovalov when you said "when they f up and are down they ask for forgiveness that they themselves don't give to others"
I felt that attack
Both Kyrgios and Sharapovlov are great examples of of the saying ‘Opinions are like arseholes. Everybody got one and they all stinks’. Both pick on one fact and double down on that to make the situation looks a lot worse than it is. At least Andy looks at the situation a lot more broadly to come up with a more considered view.
@andyc7011 agree. Their "opinions" are very extreme and hateful. These accidents could have happened to them and yet they don't seem to be open to empathy.
Not everyone is empathetic towards doping. And you don’t have to be really. A lot of people think you get caught with steroids in your system you get banned.
The point is this. The legal amount is zero. That's zero. All players should get the same treatment in regards to testing, outcomes and waiting until the news is released as well as waiting until they find out their sentence. This has not happened in the case of these two top players. It's not about the players. Of course they did not need to dope. They did not want to dope. The inequality is the problem. Kyrgios is part of the PTPA which works on behalf of the players who cannot afford a top lawyer. He is not hating on anyone. Or he wasn't until sinnerfam strted attacking him like a bunch of Italian jackals.
@@Simon-zl6ek Their opinions are not extreme or hateful. They represent the opinions of all concerned sports fans and pros who say: equality of treatment and sentencing of all players is paramount. It doesn't matter who they are or where they stand on the ladder. Or how much money they earn or bring to the sport. These two are amazing players. Tennis needs them. It's a tragedy this has happened to them. It should have been dealt with immediately last March. It wasn't.
This was my favorite episode of Served so far. Also, congratulations on the Vox deal. Well deserved.
Andy, I think you’re confused. Sinner’s trial is not confirmed for February 11th, but we’ve seen the CAS schedule up to February 11th and he is not on it, so we know the trial will be AFTER February 11th.
Thank you, Andy!❤
so great to hear the voice of reasonable person, i agree with every word you said. thank you for that podcast, it can give a big perspective from someone who knows this sport a little better than a fan
Great video! Thank you Andy 🙏🙏🙏 Iga just had so many things that went wrong... I feel so sorry for her... Please 2025 be kind to Iga and us all 🙏🙏🙏
The problem with setting thresholds for drugs Andy, is that is really really hard from a medical standpoint to establish at what concentration and during how many days you have to take something to conclusively have performance enhancements.
You have to do clinical trials with participants taking it and participants not taking it and have a statistically significant difference in order to prove it, and to have to do that with the same drug at 0.001 concentration, then 0.002, then 0.003 and so on, for X days then X days +1, X+2 etc etc. And that just for one substance, which does not transfer automatically to the next .
You are looking at +200 years of research if you start today, it is waaay more realistic to ban the substance altogether for the control agencies. There is not easy solution…
I hear what you're saying, but I would argue that it's a lot harder to be world #1 at tennis than it is to develop those thresholds. It's only going to keep getting harder as new ways to cheat are being developed all the the time.
@@macross8767unfortunately for athletes, it is biology and this agencies can’t make rules up, you are hold to scientific standards and while logic dictates that a ridiculously small quantity of a substance should not enhance performance, as long as you cannot prove it, you cannot approve something.
As you well said, people are searching constantly a way to beat the system so if you find a molecule that enhances performance at a ridiculously small amount, it flies under the radar
I’m not sure 200+ years is an accurate estimate. What we want is to have a threshold that depends on the sampling rate, to avoid a positive test being an echo of a significant dosage. We should establish a minimum sampling rate, and then for each substance, a threshold can be computed based on its fading rate. We could start by doing this for the most recurrent substances to address the most numerous cases first.
Thank you for your words of wisdom, Andy. When I read kafelnikov's words I was shocked.
You're so right! They should for fuck sake improve their testing strategies for micro-dosing and not ruin people's careers. Their number one rule should be as in medicine: First do no harm.
I agree! Thank you for being so reasonable about something so annoyingly unreasonable
Greag podcast 🎉🎉🎉 Thanks for sharing a lot of insights into your career! Hope that Jannik will be cleared of the accusations 😊😊😊❤ Iga will shine next season!
Andy thank you, you're such an intelligent and thoughtful guy...we need people like you in this world.
Every case of doping is individual. It is just how it is. WE have details of Swiatek and Sinners case. We need to focus on them. And then it is clear - accusations of cheating are RIDICULLOUS in both cases.
They should not have any penalties. They had gain nothing, they had no fault in getting those substances in theirs bodies as well. End of story.
Rules penalising sportsman just because are st*pid.
What's more, equalising it with RUSSIAN *systematic*, *organised* and *goverment controlled* doping system they developed to cheat ALL WORLD in every discipline possible is a crime itself.
I love this podcast and keep up the nice work. But Andy and Jon continue to overlook a major distinction in the Jannik Sinner case that makes all the difference (IMHO). Unlike Simone Halep and even Iga Swiatek, Sinner didn't ingest anything into his own body. Nor was any medication applied to him. Halep and Swiatek may have taken the stuff in all innocence (credibly, in my opinion), but they did take the stuff directly.
In Sinner's case, his trainer used a cut medication on his - the trainer's - body. He figured a medication that he used on his own cut couldn't possibly have a medical effect on Sinner, in which he was entirely right, and wouldn't show up in a urinalysis, in which he was entirely wrong. He was not aware of how impossibly sensitive the tests are.
Are we saying that Sinner is responsible for a medical treatment that his trainer uses for the trainer's purposes that did not, and could not possibly have had, any effect on Sinner? Are you KIDDING me? It's one thing to say an athlete is responsible for treatments on his physique, quite another to say he bears responsibility for his team's treatment of their own individual ailments, and the random chance that some stray molecules might end up in his urine. You may call me the king of the softies, but I don't think anyone is negligent here, and I include Sinner's trainer. I think the appeal of WADA is completely misguided.
This of course turns on accepting Sinner's account. But the ITIA already has. More than that, it matches receipts that Sinner was able to provide, the absurdly small amount detected, the timing of the tests, and the fact that similar cross contamination suffered by other Italian athletes. That medicine is evidently pretty good medicine.
WADA should have let this whole thing die a merciful death. As it is, I hope it gets the black eye it has coming to it.
thank you for protecting iga's legacy. 😢😢😢
Thanks Andy true words. I totally agree with you
Hi Andy, I don't think Sinner's date is set for 11th February- the date is still unknown. The CAS schedule has been published up to 11th February and Sinner's case isn't on it so it is assumed it won't happen BEFORE that. We still don't know.
Congrats to the team! I love tuning into the Podcast and can’t wait for you guys to go bigger 🎉
I’m so glad I found this podcast. I love Andy Roddick
Screw Kyrgios -and what is Genie’s actual problem. There you go
Fantastic episode Andy and the team. It is so great to hear a perspective in a way, that you dont need to include premature statements without clearly stating the facts. This episode can be very useful, since i am currently working on my law doctorate degree an doping is part of it. There clearly must be some kind of change on international level since when there is some substance allowed in specific country and then on tour is banned (double standards also in this area).
Second part of this show was amazing to get unprepared Andy answering very interesting questions of Jon. I saw name of Kyrgios mentioned copuple of times in comment section - so he is kind of an example where if you are trying really hard for respect and hearing your voice outside of the courts, it can be contra-productive. His portrait and public view of it is only his doing, basically you like to punch, sometimes you have to able to receive. But, thats the way it is these days - that if you want to have platform outside of the sports, you have to be on the edge, but he is clearly unable to managing it.
Super proud of you guys joining Vox! I feel Soical Sophie should’ve been on to celebrate as well.
Day One homies we are up today!!
Congrats! Love the channel!
No wonder VOX picked you up simply best episode I have ever seen about tennis thank you all
BTW, please would you be able to check the accuracy of stating there is a date (12 Feb) for Sinner's CAS hearing? my understanding is that CAS have published their hearings diary up to 11 February, and Sinner's case is not listed, however, there are no cases listed in January at all. It seems a bit of a leap to expect the Sinner's hearing to take place on 12 February.
I agree, i didn’t see anywhere the confirmation for a Feb hearing for sinner case
Yes I think Andy has misunderstood that
Congratulations! So de(served). Sorry, had to do it! And thank you for mentioning the chirpers, super rational people, and also those and maybe one person especially who don’t/doesn’t give grace or any kind of compassion when they out of almost anyone needed it the most. Thirsty thoughtless people aka trolls bother me endlessly too. I try not to let it but lose that battle almost every time.
Anyway, the podcast is so good and landing with Vox is awesome and great fit. congrats again!
Very important remarks on the so called dopping cases recently. Thank you, Andy. And also, I'm so glad "Served" is joining Vox Media! Great news. Love this podcast.
Congrats on the Vox Media deal! Well-deserved!
Also, on the topic of Andre's book. It's my go to anytime you have the "what book do you recommend" or "what book has had an impact on your life" question come up, and it's true in both cases.
As a single, childless dude who liked tennis, it was an insight as to the pressures of stardom, of how someone would manage such a life with kids and a wife. It also left a big mark on me, even childless, I knew exactly how I would push my kids, and what I would avoid doing.
Fast forward a few years, I'm older than when Andre wrote the book and I still find so much value in it. I re-read it some months ago and I was even more distraught by it. I recommended it to my wife and she was so mortified on the sections dealing with his childhood that she stopped reading it because it was adding to her already existing levels of stress. I feel happy with the balance I've done so far as a parent, if anything, now that my kids are slightly older I feel comfortable pushing them a bit more, since I think I know them well enough, but also they know me well enough to know that if I'm being insistent on something, it's not to be a mean jerk to them. Also, Andre is my go to on how to go on how I should go about complementing publicly my wife. I'm so happy to have married someone who is awesome-er, smarter, and all around better than me, that it's easy to compliment them, and I see how Andre complements Steffi as a blueprint of how to do it on myself, especially on more "public" levels, even if my public level is much smaller than the crowd AA would be involved in.
Thank you Andy for your clear, honest and objective take.
Congrats on the deal with Vox Media. Well deserved. Agree with Andy regarding testing for non performance enhancing levels. If it's not improving performance, what are we doing? Also enjoyed the Q & A with Jon and Andy. Thanks for doing this impromptu pod when breaking news happens. The flexibility is appreciated.
Andy, love the show and congrats on your new partnership.
On one of your next episodes, would you please discuss if current pro tennis players might be reevaluating their diet/supplement intake after these news? Like, if you were an active player right now, what would you be discussing with your team? What are feasible protection protocols for an active player in short of sending everything to the lab before ingesting it?
Thank you for saying everything I was thinking ❤
In my opinion even three months is way too much. They already said he did not have any performance improvement, so what? How can he controls everything his team is doing outside the tennis court?
yep, it's impossible
I think that it would be fair to give him more suspension than Iga had, because it depended on his team, because they were irresponsible, but I think two months will be the right decision, three months definitely to much
What is WADA seeking exactly? I thought it was years not months?
A great show. Loved Anything Goes. Especially the part about Open. Andy, your show is following in Open’s footsteps. Looking forward to more.
How the fuck can something be called “no fault, no negligence” and punishment still be dished out. “Well sir we found you not guilty of robbery, but how about you spend a year in prison just cause we want to justify spending all this money on your trial, and because one time when you were a child you took 2 pieces of candy from a Halloween bucket when you were only supposed to take one”…make that make sense.
The testing system must be changed and fast! Why do players have to be manipulated like this? If Jannick Sinner is suspended for anything more than a couple of months all the players ATP & WTA should protest. This absurd system of punishing players for minute traces of unharmful substances has got to stop! Sorry for ranting, I absolutely love Served and Andy is the best ❤
Accepting the suspension, Swiatek's record will be forever contaminated. That suspension's a shit
Andy, you are the best! Thank you!
Loved what you said about Hewitt Bro
Great episide Andy. Maybe the best.
Uno dei campioni che analizza veramente i fatti. Bravo ANDY oltre ad essere un grande campione sei anche un grande uomo. Avessero tutti la tua intelligenza nel valutare i fatti. BRAVOOOOOO
I'm renovating an old cottage; this podcast makes the experience so much more enjoyable.
Hey Andy! “No significant negligence” by ITIA means that there shouldn’t be a WADA appeal, but that forced some length of ban. One month for Iga after her suspension seems like the shortest possible compromise. 18 year old Bartůňkova got 6 months for a contamination through a supplement, as was proven by a lab. The Sinner case is distinct because it is plausible that he got contaminated by his team, which means that he could have been not negligent at all - as the ITIA concluded. CAS will decide on it, but if they add significant to “no negligence”, we could have a situation where Ferrara, his negligent expert can work while the athlete he compromised is banned…
Thank you Andy for defending Iga and kick the a..... Of Nick 😊
I’m basically with you on this one Andy.
Shouldn’t a little common sense prevail in these cases. Is there really anyone out there that believes that having
one/one millionth part of these drugs in your system enhanced their performance? Imagine having the equivalent of one eye drop of beer in your system and being arrested for DWI
That's a good one (the eye drop of beer). Totally agree with you. The issue is also the fact that the pharmaceutical company, which produced the contaminated Melatonin cannot be liable, because the contamination is below the acceptable threshold set for the industry. I read that on Polish newspaper.
Thank you ❤️💪
Thank you, Andy for your honesty
Congrats Andy I always figured something like this would happen. I know you will maintain your creative content. As to conflating contamination with doping people need to STFU. I'm definitely a Carlos fanboy > Sinner but all this hate on Jannick is just INSANE. I just want to make sure that all players are treated fairly.
Thank you Andy Roddick for having simple common sense. "Why the fuck do we care" Like you said.
Congratulations on landing the sponsor! I have been following this every week since the French Open. While the timestamps are great, I'd love to see more 2-4 minute videos. They're quicker and make it easier to jump in and out.
Really liked the anything goes section. It gave insight into the behind the scenes part of the game.
Congratulations on the podcast show news! … I agree with you entirely on the doping crap… Start penalizing when the levels of substances detected enhance performance👍
Loved the Hewitt shout out. Hewitt Roddick was such an underrated rivalry. Would love to see Andy have Lleyton on the podcast for an interview.
Thank you Andy
You are down to Earth guy with an experience
Stop the mini mini mini shit and worry about serious dope helping player with intensity of game
Thank you again for standing up for Iga
Big bravo towards you
Please before doubting Sinner consider experts have carried (there's a study by professor Kintz) out tests in controlled environment and recreated the thing that happened to Jannik and found the same results in their study. That's what expert evidence means.
Loved this episode
Loved this episode - please do more of the anything goes/Q&A stuff
Someone who says it as t is. Love this - 'Served with Andy Roddck"
Love that “served” and “nothing major” drop around the same time!!! Must watches for tennis fans
100% agree with you Andy! I'm rational 😅
All I know, and for selfish reasons, if they decide to sanction and force this new an amazing jewel that is Jannick Sinner to not play for however long they decide to sanction him for, would be such a shame and deprive us from witnessing the incredible development and progress of this truly astonishing player that is already rewriting history. I’m so excited every time he takes the court, I never thought I felt that way again after RF. Don’t get me wrong I love Alcatraz, but what Sinner as achieved this year was mind blowing and as a spectator and a huge tennis fan, that’s what you want to be part of. So fingers crossed, I hope this organization is not going to do something stupid that would enrage the tennis fan community and allow us to marvel at this unique athlete for the coming year. My two cents!
❤️👏Jannik is the reason why I watch tennis on and off the court . An amazing young man
@@dungtruong4036 Same here.
That's why I resub to tennisTV, etc!
I only watch tennis because of Sinner. If he doesn't play, I won't be watching.
@@billiey36 you and I are two of Jannik’s super fans. Thank you @billiey36 for always ❤️and support Jannik just like I did.
Thank you
Great questions by Jon.
Spot on, Andy. All of it.
Nice to see the shout out for Lleyton. Real ones know. Not just the big 3 fanboys.
Finally someone on UA-cam pointed out, that in Sinner’s case there was a member of his team who made a mistake. But nobody from Iga’s team had any influence
Thank you ❤
Hope your opinion and video will convince a lot of people
It’s still Jannik’s mistake though? You can just blame others for your problems. You’re ultimately responsible for what goes into your own body. Intentional or not.
@@cleorobynhe fired whoever was responsible.
Nothing actually went into Sinner's body. The trainer used the medication on himself. The billionth of a part reflects that. The WADA appeal is absurd.
@@Ladybug211211 Jannik is still responsible though. That’s why WADA is appealing. Jannik was this person’s employer and as his employer he assumes responsibility. Otherwise every professional athlete would get away with situations like these. You can’t just blame someone else for their mistakes. That’s not how it works when you’re a professional athlete.
What do you mean nothing went into Jannik’s system? If that was the case he would have not tested positive twice.
I like the Anything Goes segment. I'm fascinated by the behind-the-scenes life of a tennis player. It's a lot of routine and learning to deal with loss, but there are moments when you feel great pride and success too. On the drug test thing, I don't know enough about the intricacies of testing to make any bold statements, but I wonder if the reason drugs are outright banned rather than a focus on quantities above and below performance-enhancing levels is that the level isn't the same for everyone and players would never really know if they were taking too much and would accidentally go over thus opening another can of worms. In short, it is just easier to ban stuff outright. Still, the whole contamination thing is a nightmare. If there is something in or on something you are legally allowed to ingest? That's a bloody nightmare. Great video.
I totally agree with you. These micro amounts are just ridiculous. I don't think either Sinner or Swiatek were trying to enhance their performance. Also WADA taking so long with these cases is ridiculous. All the testing and investigating has been done.
It's CAS that is taking the time.. it was ages before Halep got her appeal though worse in her case as she was banned from playing. Though it can't be a laugh a minute for Sinner either having it hanging over him.
Hey Andy I just realized that you have a form of skin cancer. When I asked about it a few weeks ago I had not actually searched it and so I apologize if I was insensitive to it but good on you for spreading the word as I see you have done. As a black guy who spent all of his life hitting tennis and being outside I am thankful that my cavalier approach to this issue was not punished. Kinda played on my genetics and that's not smart so at 60 I am going to start using it now (whatever I'm gonna die soon anyway LOL) I've been a fan of yours since you hit the scene and still to this day. We need you in that chair.
I think giving iga a suspension is absolutely ridiculous. Sinner at least has some responsibility! I'm not saying he was doping voluntarily to enhance performance, but his team was handling a banded substance. You can absolutely suspend him for that (3 months i think is fair). But again I don't see how you suspend iga for taking a legal sleeping pill that was contaminated.
Andy mentioned a date for Sinner’s case on the podcast. They have all upcoming hearings listed and I don’t see a date on the CAS website through 02/11/25.