The Lofree Flow changed my mind on low profile mechanical keyboards

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  • Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
  • Check it out here lofree-flow-the-smoothest.kck...
    This product is being funded on Kickstarter, but Lofree has a history of shipping reliably, so I expect this to be smooth as well.
    If you want to buy, but don't want me to get anything, here's the direct link www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
    0:00 - Intro
    0:27 - Disclaimer
    1:01 - 🔈 Sound test
    2:12 - POM tactile switches
    2:50 - Gasket mount
    3:10 - Hot-swap!
    3:51 - Build quality
    4:27 - Connectivity
    4:45 - RGB
    5:07 - Two minor issues
    7:18 - Wrap up
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  • @PeterBee911
    @PeterBee911 11 місяців тому +11

    Impressed by the sound comparison between the Lofree and the Logitech. It blows it out of the water!
    Thanks for the review, just backed it and I will have it with the tactile switches as well!

  • @BrandonKBoswell
    @BrandonKBoswell 11 місяців тому

    I'm loving it as well. It hasn't left my desk since it showed up. It's just a joy to type on.

  • @CalmConcept
    @CalmConcept 10 місяців тому +5

    This board is looking sick! It’s important to note it uses Kailh switches and is not compatible with Gateron low profile switches since the pins are in different locations

  • @quintinfertig89
    @quintinfertig89 11 місяців тому +1

    LOVE the dog problems in the background!!

  • @cybedra
    @cybedra 11 місяців тому

    Awesome video! Have you happened to take a look at any of Nuphy’s Air series keyboards in the past? I’ve been thinking about getting one lately but this keyboard comes along at a similar price point but a very different design and I’m wondering how the two would compare

  • @MaximSalazar
    @MaximSalazar 2 місяці тому

    Never heard of this board before, but might have to get one now

  • @naqib_313
    @naqib_313 11 місяців тому

    The sound of typing in lofree is quite satisfying

  • @Lofree
    @Lofree 11 місяців тому +16

    Thanks for your review, we need to update the function about fn+media keys, the final version doesn't need "fn" to trigger media keys!! So you can experience the same as a notebook😉

    • @albinwu123
      @albinwu123 11 місяців тому

      This is a good idea for MAC users and kind of a deal breaker for me if I need to press the FN key for MAC OS. Can you confirm that if it's not in the final version will there be a SW update for it?

    • @taleporyracing
      @taleporyracing 11 місяців тому +1

      but will you need fn to function as normal f-keys?

    • @albinwu123
      @albinwu123 11 місяців тому +1

      @@taleporyracing For MAC I most likely wont use the normal F-Keys, I usually don't. If I were to switch to Windows then definitely.

    • @Lofree
      @Lofree 11 місяців тому

      @@albinwu123 Yeah, Repeatedly confirmed from the engineer's! the final mass-produced version does not need to press "fn" to trigger the media functions

    • @Lofree
      @Lofree 11 місяців тому

      @@albinwu123 Man! if not, a SW update can also be a good idea, but the default version will be no "fn"

  • @SunsetNova
    @SunsetNova 11 місяців тому +21

    Lofree sounds incredible, sounds very premium. Would love a comparison with Nuphy

  • @MAXp0wr
    @MAXp0wr Місяць тому

    If you’re on Mac, customising the keys using Karabiner Elements (free) works with any keyboard. Super handy because I like a mixture of Fn keys and media as the default.

  • @bobbyv3
    @bobbyv3 11 місяців тому

    The Logitech Mechanical Mini for Macs is amazing.

  • @abhaywit
    @abhaywit 9 місяців тому +1

    How easy or difficult is to replace the battery from both perspective (a) installation and (b) availability of the battery? I like the fact that it offers wired (which I am assuming would continue to work even after the battery stops working) but if I had to continue using it in wired mode, i wouldn't have opted for wireless. I am probably among the very few who still think that AA/AAA batteries are more convenient as compared to lithium ion.

  • @mrwaller2009
    @mrwaller2009 10 місяців тому

    where did you get the leather mat? thx!

  • @theimposter_dev
    @theimposter_dev 11 місяців тому

    Would you recommend Lofree's Flow over the Keychron's K3 pro

  • @razorgarf
    @razorgarf Місяць тому

    The Lofree sound great

  • @gavlatennis2824
    @gavlatennis2824 5 місяців тому

    You'd be more impressed by the Linear Ghost switches on the Lofree. They feel much nicer than the stock Phantom Tactile switches on the black keyboard in the video.

  • @bojack3827
    @bojack3827 7 місяців тому +2

    3:25 Not all low profile switches will fit due to the positioning of the pins. You really need to use certain types compatible with Kailh POM switches.

  • @MrAKAQUAN
    @MrAKAQUAN 8 місяців тому

    Might I know what is the name of the custom keycap of Logitech mechanical mini keyboard? Thanks

  • @NJILIKE
    @NJILIKE 11 місяців тому +1

    it look like nuphy air75. can you compare it?

  • @Reducer
    @Reducer 11 місяців тому +6

    I decided to back it. I have a Nuphy Air75 and Air60 (for the backpack) as my keyboards right now. Slightly disappointing that you can't toggle function/media keys, but I think I would prefer to have the function keys as default, as I have various shortcuts on those in my development environment, and I use those way more often than I use media keys to control the music. ie, typing Shift-F6 ends up as Fn-Shift-F6 and suddenly there's a lot more finger gymnastics involved.

    • @Lofree
      @Lofree 11 місяців тому +1

      The final version had fixed the fn + media issues ;)

    • @htko89
      @htko89 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Lofree Can i have function keys as default on the flow? or is it hard-coded to be media keys?
      As a software engineer, function keys are used everyday for me.

    • @Lofree
      @Lofree 11 місяців тому +2

      @@htko89 If you're win user, yeah function keys is default, and if you're mac user, you can setting the priority

  • @DankMemes-xq2xm
    @DankMemes-xq2xm 11 місяців тому

    This or the NuphyAir96 wireless? Both seem very similar

  • @Mr.C0ffee
    @Mr.C0ffee 7 місяців тому

    Would you consider the better than the nuphy v2 air75?
    Also, no QMK compatible software is a MAJOR miss for me

  • @Somtric
    @Somtric 10 місяців тому

    Can you remap the keys and does it use a software they have or VIA/QMK ?

  • @jakenbacon5322
    @jakenbacon5322 11 місяців тому +3

    6:10 I thought you can adjust this in the macs settings. Is the toggle for „use F1, F2 etc. as standard-function keys“ disabled if you have a non-apple keyboard connected?

    • @BryceDriesenga
      @BryceDriesenga 11 місяців тому

      He said he tried that and it doesn't work, in the video

    • @jakenbacon5322
      @jakenbacon5322 11 місяців тому

      Right, my bad

    • @danielferrari3211
      @danielferrari3211 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jakenbacon5322 nah you are right - he asked Lo Free and they said you can't change the keyboard settings. They didn't comment on Mac Settings. I know on Windows you can invert the function row so would be surprised there isnt an equivalent for Mac

  • @RadicalEdward88
    @RadicalEdward88 9 місяців тому

    The million dollar question... Is there an ISO layout version?

  • @MatthewHill
    @MatthewHill 10 місяців тому +2

    So... your preference is that every time you want to reload a page, you'd need to press Fn-F5? Or every time you want to close a window you need to hit Alt-Fn-F4? Etc.? I would personally find that a lot more annoying than having to hold down the Fn key and repeatedly tap the volume-up key when I want things to get louder.

    • @bsewall
      @bsewall 5 місяців тому

      Sounds like he's on a Mac. CMD+R reloads. CMD+W closes. I almost never use function keys on my Mac other shortcuts are available.

  • @EnnTomi1
    @EnnTomi1 11 місяців тому +7

    NO VIA compatible is what i heard as well. what a let down.

  • @haroldfinch8019
    @haroldfinch8019 11 місяців тому

    looks cool, just wish it matched the Apple Magic Keyboard exactly

  • @bojack3827
    @bojack3827 7 місяців тому

    I've got this keyboard. It is annoying that the media keys aren't enabled by default.

  • @Click.Studio
    @Click.Studio 11 місяців тому

    what about the battery life ?

  • @Bombbeachh
    @Bombbeachh 11 місяців тому +1

    Being new to mechanical keyboards, would it be easy to find compatible custom keycaps for a low profile keyboard like this?

    • @mczreo
      @mczreo 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah the keycaps are all unified. Just the switches below them are not.

    • @Bombbeachh
      @Bombbeachh 11 місяців тому

      @@mczreo Thanks! Do you recommend any sites that would have lots of low profile customs key caps with Mac keys?

  • @vwmusicplaylist1935
    @vwmusicplaylist1935 10 місяців тому

    I have the Logitech MX mini and OMG that LoFree keyboard sounds AMAZING compared the clackety clackety of the Logitech!!!!!

  • @filipcza
    @filipcza 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm trying to find a keyboard which is: full size, uses brown switches and is low profile. I found one years ago and it's hands down the best keyboard in this multiverse. I cannot use anything else since that but they stopped making that keyboard so I'm desperately trying to find similar one but seems nobody is making those. Any ideas?

    • @celg.358
      @celg.358 5 місяців тому

      Keychron has low profile and full layout, pro and non pro…

    • @jhindanzo3803
      @jhindanzo3803 5 місяців тому

      Numphy air 96 v2

  • @hedrickoYO
    @hedrickoYO 11 місяців тому

    Are these type of switches lubeable? Are they worth lubing never tried low profile switches

    • @bobbobson6290
      @bobbobson6290 3 місяці тому

      If you can open them and reassemble them afterwards without destroying them.

  • @lololololololol444
    @lololololololol444 11 місяців тому +1

    If this keyboard had VIA it would be pretty solid

    • @Keemochi420
      @Keemochi420 7 місяців тому

      What is Via I keep hearing seeing that 😅

  • @Belgarathe
    @Belgarathe 6 місяців тому

    What kills it is that it isn’t programmable for this price point point. QMK is awesome for getting the keyboard the way you use it and not you adjusting to it.

  • @rydmerlin
    @rydmerlin 8 місяців тому

    This keyboard is hype and other videos showed it was made very cheaply. It looks like an Air75 clone but more expensive.

  • @PlatonsArm
    @PlatonsArm 11 місяців тому +2

    Pro-tip, never have the mic arm or mic stand attached to the table you’re using to type for a sound test, the frequencies travel through the arm and the sound is garbage.

  • @samiuxn
    @samiuxn 11 місяців тому

    You should review the Huawei mini keyboard, it's so nice and there isn't much about it on the UA-cam, I'm using it for work and it feels so good, it's not pricy but has a good quality.

  • @petercruz1993
    @petercruz1993 3 дні тому

    The media keys is a big bummer for me ngl

  • @kleberlourencodias151
    @kleberlourencodias151 5 місяців тому +1

    6:03 I'm a programmer and I use F keys a lot! Maybe this keyboard was made to programmers and IT workers...

  • @itsmabelx
    @itsmabelx 6 місяців тому

    Omg i was about to buy the keyboard but the fn keys really threw me off! I use it a lot and if thats the case im done 😭

  • @TimSchraepen
    @TimSchraepen 11 місяців тому +1

    The function keys defaulting to F1-F12 instead of the media keys is a huge sell for developers.
    There’s nothing more annoying than having to press yet another key in your monkeygrip to hit a shortcut.

    • @Lofree
      @Lofree 11 місяців тому +1

      The final version had fixed this ;)

  • @mikayel18ify
    @mikayel18ify 6 місяців тому

    Too bad lofree does not have usb wireless 2.4ghz mode..

  • @douglaslassance
    @douglaslassance 11 місяців тому

    The lack of backlighting on those keys is an issue.

  • @scottfwalter
    @scottfwalter 11 місяців тому

    Ughhh its a kickstarter

  • @user-iw4ty3jx9m
    @user-iw4ty3jx9m 21 годину тому

    Those are the 3 most t@dred complaints I’ve ever heard. Dual legends on those 2 keys doesn’t matter, order of the media keys who cares, and F keys are always the first layer.

  • @bobbobson6290
    @bobbobson6290 3 місяці тому

    I disagree.
    The windows keycaps should be the default.

  • @JohnSmith-zl8rz
    @JohnSmith-zl8rz 7 місяців тому

    Great but I have see Windows crap on!!! why we can't get MAC KEYS!! yes with MAC symbols?

  • @thomasanderson5929
    @thomasanderson5929 9 місяців тому

    40 hours battery life? That is pitiful... That should have been your #1 complaint.