Thank you so much for this video. The Donner V would make a decent electric violin. The company should reconsider adding a suitable pickup inside the instrument and repackage it as an electric instrument.
Definitely a sleek-looking violin, but it's a shame it's so quiet! And I think you're right about the tinniness. That's what I thought at first too. It doesn't have the same warmth and depth or resonance of your regular wood violin but I think that might be too much to ask for out of a carbon fiber instrument!
A better bridge might help too, the "kidney" holes in normal bridges allows the strings to transfer more energy into the sound post and box. Not sure why they felt the need too change that design.
A 2020 double-blind Dutch listening study showed that most of the composite fiber materials they tested for the top plate, including several carbon fibers composites, were much less "nasal" and less "harsh", than traditional spruce, and only 14% preferred the spruce over 5 other materials when asked which violin they would take home (still blinded). They were traditionally shaped and used traditional materials for other pieces. While spruce lost to the other materials generally, it performed reasonably well in "openness", "loudness", "clearness", and "brightness", and "power". Interestingly, because people believed that violins should sound "warm" as you described, most people believed that the traditional wood top plate was in fact not wood, because it was considerably less warm than other materials.
The carbon fiber version sounds thin and tinny, but with EQ and other filters you can make it sound better. It is NOT wood, so never expect it to sound like your wood violin. I agree with others who said they should integrate an electric pick up into the bridge. Yamaha make a fantastic electric violin based on wood, and it sounds terrific and is not too expensive. (Also, pardon the pun, a wood violin has a smaller carbon foot print. :). )
I have to tell you a massive thank you. Being as I have absolutely no knowledge of violins, I debated getting one of these for my daughter for her birthday. (Yes she plays already which is why I was hesitant to purchase without finding something to have an honest opinion.) The thoroughness is absolutely appreciated. Thank you very much
Nice review. Quite a muted frequency range by comparison with your wooden fiddle. Note a bad sound, but maybe too limited for playing in an orchestra ;)
You might try a couple of dabs of rubber cement in the suction cups to hold the shoulder rest om. Use rubber cement so when you remove it the cement can just be rubbed off and won't leave a mark.
I don’t think that instrument was produced with you in mind. The next CF fiddle you try will be better and on and on. Thanks for the time you spent with this.
Very sleek. I love the look/style but you're right, definitely much quieter. I've used a carbon fiber bow but never seen a carbon fiber violin, very cool! Great review :)
This was really interesting to watch! I commend Donner for entering the market, and perhaps they’ll modify their model in the future. I’ve had a Glasser carbon composite violin for two years while learning off grid. It’s served me well, and is shaped like a traditional violin; you can use any chin or shoulder rest. The sound is much more powerful than this one, but nothing compared with the resonance of wood.
The Rising-V is now down to $199.00, and it appears to be only available in white. I agree a pick-up would be helpful. I think if the size of the violin box were more consistent with a normal violin's construction it might have more depth, warmth, and volume. It's weight suggests that it is not made of the same material as more expensive instruments. It is made of a "carbon composite", but not specifically "carbon fiber". It may have carbon fiber in it, but is a composite with other artificial materials, which explains the relative weight of the instrument compared to true light-weigh carbon-fiber. I was interested in buying one, but now that I've heard it, I believe I will refrain for now. Perhaps Donner will make another carbon-composite violin using a more traditional shape that will compare more favorably. It's certainly attractive for the price point, but not the sound quality. I liked and subscribed, thank you for your review! You were unbiased, and clearly not a shill for Donner.
it interressant to test a pure hi tech aeronautic grade Carbon fiber violon in Classic Shape .....with all black parts in genuine Ebony and bridge in carbon (true carbon bridge is lighter and thinner than wood bridge ) result is totally at opposite. sound is less sweet,less expressive but in Decibel ,wood cannot follow
@@newbaroqueits a very fun instrument and i like his sweet song . i think to buy one in more... even in white. lol for price its a good "all weather" violin
@@newbaroqueim collector but i like play at my little level . i love violin ...and viola because you can allways be surprised . i own lot of instruments (not 1/5m$ Strads) but a good Panel since STAGG 75$ (In all sizes avaible) until a few number of 15/25 K$ by old and recent makers . for me best song his for my 3K$ chinese violin make with 200 yo selectionned wood. and i love go blind test with 3 friends (true violonists). i can be pride to have prank them a great number of time. loool
Nice and informative video. It's really neat to learn more about the make and function of different violins. That being said, this video is missing an appearance by Swolebasaur!
I did send it back. I made this video for fun and was super excited to see the violin. But when I realized it, I did not know how to politely express how terrible it functioned as a violin. It really was a struggle to play it and made less sound than what you can hear in the video.
Honestly if you wanna pay $400 and up, I’d personally go to a music store or dealer in violins. Never buy from online cause it could be amazing or complete crap. Depending on if the person is trying to scam you or not.
Thank you very much for this review. I had seen this type at a local talent show. I bought a mezzo-forte evo carbon fiber violin. A little more expand to but a much better quality instrument. It has served me well in the temperate rainforest that is southeastern Alaska.
Thanks for the vid. I was thinking of getting one to take backpacking. I thought it would be fairly impervious to the elements. However, since you mention that it is heavier than a wood violin, I’ll have to think about that.
It would be interesting to compare this with the sound of a really expensive carbon fiber violin. If you can ever access one, ease consider sharing a video comparison with us. Also, your wood viilin is obviously a quality instrument. In all fairness, how good would a $300 wooden violin sound? Thanks. I found this video to be extremely interesting!
Thank you for this video, I enjoyed your review as well as your excellent playing. I am tall with a long neck, so not being able to use my usual shoulder rest would prevent me from buying this violin. I used to have a Rubus violin built in Russia in 1850 that had no overhang on the top and back plates over the sides. It was loud with a beautiful tone, but there was no way to attach a chin or shoulder rest, so I had to sell it. Your violin has beautiful flamed maple and a gorgeous, warm tone. I suspect it is worth a fair chunk of change, so comparing it to a $300 Amazon buy is not really a fair fight😁. It would be interesting to compare your violin to a professional quality carbon fiber violin such as one from Gayford or Luis & Clark. It would be great if they would lend you one, or if there is a shop near you that carries one, perhaps they’d let you try it out with your camera on?
Thanks for the video. Interesting. I wonder if a brighter string would help. Playable outside for sure. I'm still looking for a carbon fibre cello that I can afford. Looking at Dinner.
The Donner seems to lack harmonic development, though the maple bridge does have some benefit in that area, albeit small. Regular wood fiddles have very carefully proportioned interior dimensions that work to add weight to selected harmonics - this is where the richness of tone, the "vocal" nature of the sound comes from. Seems to me that it will always be less expressive, not only in dynamics, but also in the infinite variety of tonal qualities that mark a great violin as well as a great player.
Just dropping in with a little tidbit to add to the violin gear conversation. So, I've been dabbling in the violin world as a beginner, and I gotta say, it's been quite the journey in last 15 months. I actually have a wooden violin, and let me tell you, it sounds pretty darn good - at least to my untrained ears. But here's the kicker: compared to the Glasser Carbon Fiber Violin I recently picked up, my wooden one feels like a luxury item, even though it's technically cheaper in the grand scheme of things in violin world. My teacher gave it a whirl and was pleasantly surprised by how good it sounded, considering its price tag. Apparently, it's more than capable of taking me up to around Grade 5 or 6 level, which is pretty impressive considering I'm still wrapping up Grade 1. Talk about getting ahead of myself, right? Don't get me wrong, the Glasser violin holds its own in terms of sound. It's got a strong projection and a solid sound overall. But my wooden violin, well, it's like comparing apples to oranges. It's almost 2.5 times the price of the Glasser, but in the violin world, it's still considered pretty affordable. You were talking about carbon fiber violins, right? Well, I stumbled upon the Glasser Carbon Fiber Violin, and it's been a lifesaver for me as a beginner. Now, I'm not saying it's the best of the best - I'm sure you've got way more experience than me in that department. But it's been a solid choice for me so far, especially considering my budget. The cool thing about it is that it's got a pretty standard violin shape, so you can use any shoulder rest you like. But here's the catch I took the glasser violin to local violin shop get lutheir to do professional setup - the sound post is glued in, so you can't swap it out like you would with a regular wooden violin what a shame if need adjustment which luthier felt slight adjustment is required and he couldn't remove it. I grabbed mine from fiddershop.com for around $960 USD, which seemed like a decent deal for the comfort and playability it offers. But if you're looking to splurge a bit more, maybe check out the Mezzo-Forte Evo Line. I've heard good things about that one too. Anyways, just thought I'd share my newbie perspective. Keep rocking those videos, and looking forward to seeing what you come up with next!
And it should stay in tune as it is stiffer to begin with, and doesn't change with humidity. I am thinking the "tinniness" could be addressed as well by either drilling some well placed holes in it (which may add some volume) or sticking foam tape on the inside to provide the muting that wood naturally provides. Really there is no reason to other than the sound everyone is used to. Why not have some variation... The volume being less is probably good for practicing as well. I think that is what you meant too.
I believe it would need to be amplified If I were playing on a showboat I believe it would work well for that. River show boats get everything wet. This might be good.
Loved the comparison. Loved your playing! Hated the Carbon Violin. And found that you definetely need a nicer microphone ^^ I think spending maybe 200 $ would get you far. Or tweak with the setting on the current one.
My daughter has three carbon fiber guitar, whch she likeas a lot. The were quite a bit more expensive than your violin. I have a carbion fiber bass bow, which I keep in my car, since I have been known to pack up my bass, forgetting to actually put the bow in the bow case. ;- I've had to use it a couple of tyim4es, and it reqlly works very well in the orchestra context. Then again, that bow cost more than your violin. I suppose that if I found a carbon fiber bass for $400, I would tqake a flyer on it. Of course, $400 bass that plays aty all would be a miracle. That was a fun video, thank you,
Given that her guitars a=cost between $2000 and $2500, you are correct. They are actual carbon fiber. Nt bass bow is $500, it;s the real deal as well, although there are better options. For the money, as an emergency bow, I am very happy with it,
Paused at 24:24 It did *not* take me long to hear the difference between the two violins. Your usual violin has more depth to the sound it produces than the carbon fiber one. The carbon fiber violin has a tinny sound that is more shallow.
You play very well … as if you’d make any violin sound pretty swell …. The traditional wood violin 🎻 sounds warmer … I think , maybe this Donner Carbon Finer Violin 🎻 might sound more interesting if It had a pickup to plug it into a sound system … with effect pedal or unit … (etc …: )
Great unboxing and comparison. I can see how you hold yourself to not be critical about the sound on this plastic toy, but even with a recorded and youtube compressed sound, you can tell that it is just a joke in comparison to a wooden instrument. And also by its price it is easy to say it can not be any good.
So the resonance - you said it vibrates your jaw. To me it adds a slight- for lack of a better term - kazoo sound to it, compared to the warm rich wood violin… take it camping?
it seems to be a neighborhood's darling, you can also practice at midnight. For me as an opera singer i like it too, we don't have to fight with proud violinists
It might be a good practice fiddle, if it's set up right, but it's sure not a performance violin. The sound is trapped. Back to the drawing board. I think they're on to something, but they have to do some more experimentation. In Donner's own video they must be using a pick-up. I know I'll get one if they get the acoustics worked out.
tweeters are allways decent....if strings are decents ..lol.. but for Bass soundboard is very very important. this instrument have a really good sound even in G string...really amazing . even if projection stay at level.of a Begginer instrument
It lacks depth, and volume, but that is an advantage when amplified, as bowed instruments are feedback happy. I saw a carbon fibre viola demo, and that sounded awesome, so I dont think its impossible to make a great sounding acoustic carbon fibre instrument, but this isn't it.
Look into the Electric Violin Shop. On UA-cam. That guy is a seriously knowledgeable player that sells unique, modern violins. He could play any instrument and recommend one for your price range. Thanks for sharing this!
Interesting, today I learned that this carbon fiber violin sounds rather lifeless, and metallic, versus your wood violin which sounds woody, warm and "like a violin".
I heard someone played a carbon fiber violin before and it sounded so great only in a studio recording with a microphone and an amplifier , the carbon fiber bridge may fit the violin more than the wooden bridge but the wooden bridge makes the violin louder and sounds more like a wooden violin in my opinion 😅but anyway I always prefer the traditional wooden violin 🎻, a carbon fiber violin is a very interesting instrument , new experiment and decent price why not to have one 😊
This is not really carbon fiber. It's an injection molded plastic with carbon fibers mixed into the plastic for reinforcement. Basically the same as GFRP (glass fiber reinforced plastic) just with CF instead of glass. In other words, it's a plastic toy compared to actual laid carbon fiber construction.
@@TuanHoang-hb2id No idea, I know almost nothing about violins. My expertise is more in carbon fiber manufacture for motorsports and injection molding of fiber reinforced components for other applications. I also like music and play electric bass guitar, piano and drums but only ever even held a violin once. I do know every Yamaha product I have ever had has been good ranging from the outboard motor on my boat and my acoustic guitar to the concert grand piano I once got to play.
@@wingracer1614 ohh I see that’s cool 😎, I’ve never owned an electric violin but played on it once , I would choose to buy a yamaha electric violin over the carbon fiber one 🤓
It’s ok to say Luis and Clark lol. Thought you were gonna choke there. 😅 my L&C is loud. I play with a mute indoors usually. I’m shocked how good it sounds. But it’s only as good as the player. Someone would be disappointed comparing sound due to your higher skill level vs beginner thinking they pick up the carbon and sound like you.
This was a fascinating review of a very interesting instrument. I admire the designers for trying to be innovative with the violin shape, but I can't help but wonder of a deeper body might have made a better sound. It also looks to me like those who play their violin without a shoulder rest may be forced to use a shoulder rest for this violin. And it also look like if you want a different style chin rest, you will be out of luck. I read a few of the Amazon reviews for this violin, and it does not look like anyone is impressed with the sound that it makes. Even though you didn't try it, I would be willing to bet that even your 'beater' violin has a better and louder sound than this carbon-fiber violin.
You made a good review video but it’s a hard to see where this fits on the flowchart of violin needs and choices. It’s not good for beginners. The shoulder rest is impracticable and can’t be substituted. I’d assume that a profession could eventually justify getting a Glasser violin. Or, as you had already done, having a lessor instrument as a second violin for most outdoor needs is probably the better choice.
Amati 🎻create the firsts violins with PERFECT SONG.....strad and Guarneri added power at this perfection 🔊!!! looool sweet is not a default... PS seriously eyes closed, im sure than its a very old Baroque Violin. accuracy :4/5 regularity :4/5: power: 1/5. with Baroque Strings you can maybe obtain a funny result. this violin is expresive and mot "cold" in despite of his buiilt process withouth wood .....its totaly opposite .
It looks cool but the difference between the two instruments speaks volumes. If you had need of a coffin for a leprechaun, it might be worth the price. It's not as bad as the squeaker ordered from JC Penny I had to play in middle school. That violin is probably perfect for a Pet Cemetery sequel; I believe I would try to pawn it off on Mary Lambert if I were you.
I felt the carbon was shaky in sound production and uneven. The wood has a richer sound. Certainly better vibrato. Maybe ok to decorate a cafe? I think you would not want to purchase a bad instrument for a beginning student. It doesn't sound good to me.
Great video, great playing, lousy instrument (I didn't men the wooden violin) 😉😂This fiddle sounds very thin and cheap - and also the shoulder rest does not seem to work properly, with those suction cups.
And that my friend is how "cheap" becomes expensive. I don't know about anybody else out there, but I would feel a bit stung by spending $400 on something I'll never use.
Thank you so much for this video. The Donner V would make a decent electric violin. The company should reconsider adding a suitable pickup inside the instrument and repackage it as an electric instrument.
Yep being more quiet would help prevent feedback if it had a pickup. Solid body is still best to amplify because of feed back.
I guess it's true, it's the player not the violin!!!! Sounds great
Definitely a sleek-looking violin, but it's a shame it's so quiet! And I think you're right about the tinniness. That's what I thought at first too. It doesn't have the same warmth and depth or resonance of your regular wood violin but I think that might be too much to ask for out of a carbon fiber instrument!
A better bridge might help too, the "kidney" holes in normal bridges allows the strings to transfer more energy into the sound post and box. Not sure why they felt the need too change that design.
A 2020 double-blind Dutch listening study showed that most of the composite fiber materials they tested for the top plate, including several carbon fibers composites, were much less "nasal" and less "harsh", than traditional spruce, and only 14% preferred the spruce over 5 other materials when asked which violin they would take home (still blinded). They were traditionally shaped and used traditional materials for other pieces.
While spruce lost to the other materials generally, it performed reasonably well in "openness", "loudness", "clearness", and "brightness", and "power". Interestingly, because people believed that violins should sound "warm" as you described, most people believed that the traditional wood top plate was in fact not wood, because it was considerably less warm than other materials.
The carbon fiber version sounds thin and tinny, but with EQ and other filters you can make it sound better. It is NOT wood, so never expect it to sound like your wood violin. I agree with others who said they should integrate an electric pick up into the bridge. Yamaha make a fantastic electric violin based on wood, and it sounds terrific and is not too expensive. (Also, pardon the pun, a wood violin has a smaller carbon foot print. :). )
@garyallen8824 Carbon fibers are produced in a high heat kiln, very energy intensive.
That's a very interesting violin! It sounds so quiet! Nice unboxing it looks sleak shame it doesn't have the fullness of your other violin
I have to tell you a massive thank you. Being as I have absolutely no knowledge of violins, I debated getting one of these for my daughter for her birthday. (Yes she plays already which is why I was hesitant to purchase without finding something to have an honest opinion.) The thoroughness is absolutely appreciated. Thank you very much
Nice review. Quite a muted frequency range by comparison with your wooden fiddle. Note a bad sound, but maybe too limited for playing in an orchestra ;)
You might try a couple of dabs of rubber cement in the suction cups to hold the shoulder rest om. Use rubber cement so when you remove it the cement can just be rubbed off and won't leave a mark.
I don’t think that instrument was produced with you in mind. The next CF fiddle you try will be better and on and on. Thanks for the time you spent with this.
Very sleek. I love the look/style but you're right, definitely much quieter. I've used a carbon fiber bow but never seen a carbon fiber violin, very cool! Great review :)
Considering the shoulder rest setup challenges, who should buy this instrument? Nobody I can think of.
Seems like it would make a good practice violin, if you live in an apartment or you like to play late at night.
The maple bridge sounds way better than the composite. Overall, I’m not a fan of it. I’m much more a wood violin fan.
This was really interesting to watch! I commend Donner for entering the market, and perhaps they’ll modify their model in the future. I’ve had a Glasser carbon composite violin for two years while learning off grid. It’s served me well, and is shaped like a traditional violin; you can use any chin or shoulder rest. The sound is much more powerful than this one, but nothing compared with the resonance of wood.
The Rising-V is now down to $199.00, and it appears to be only available in white. I agree a pick-up would be helpful. I think if the size of the violin box were more consistent with a normal violin's construction it might have more depth, warmth, and volume. It's weight suggests that it is not made of the same material as more expensive instruments. It is made of a "carbon composite", but not specifically "carbon fiber". It may have carbon fiber in it, but is a composite with other artificial materials, which explains the relative weight of the instrument compared to true light-weigh carbon-fiber. I was interested in buying one, but now that I've heard it, I believe I will refrain for now. Perhaps Donner will make another carbon-composite violin using a more traditional shape that will compare more favorably. It's certainly attractive for the price point, but not the sound quality. I liked and subscribed, thank you for your review! You were unbiased, and clearly not a shill for Donner.
Looks like it's not available anymore. I'm happy to have at least tried it for the sake of everyone that was interested. If only it sounded good
it interressant to test a pure hi tech aeronautic grade Carbon fiber violon in Classic Shape .....with all black parts in genuine Ebony and bridge in carbon (true carbon bridge is lighter and thinner than wood bridge ) result is totally at opposite. sound is less sweet,less expressive but in Decibel ,wood cannot follow
@@newbaroqueits a very fun instrument and i like his sweet song . i think to buy one in more... even in white. lol for price its a good "all weather" violin
@@newbaroqueim collector but i like play at my little level . i love violin ...and viola because you can allways be surprised . i own lot of instruments (not 1/5m$ Strads) but a good Panel since STAGG 75$ (In all sizes avaible) until a few number of 15/25 K$ by old and recent makers . for me best song his for my 3K$ chinese violin make with 200 yo selectionned wood. and i love go blind test with 3 friends (true violonists). i can be pride to have prank them a great number of time. loool
@@newbaroquemy 3K$ violin with my 4K$ (most expensive in my collection) bow is often Favorite... than my 18k violin with 100$ bow looool...
It would be interesting to hear how you like higher quality carbon fiber violin such as something made by Mezzo-Forte.
I didn’t realize the Partita started in fourth position 🤦🏻♂️. I’ve been practicing it wrong 😂.
Always love the content Nick. Taco (his dog) is always an awesome addition as he is the adorable fluffy canine. Love you guys.
The maple bridge does sound more pleasing to me than the composite bridge.
3D printed violins if you print the body while instead of in parts it sounds really good
Put the sound post on the other side
Your wood violin is so much more expressive.
Nice and informative video. It's really neat to learn more about the make and function of different violins. That being said, this video is missing an appearance by Swolebasaur!
Wow I think this would make a great violin to learn on.
It's definitely quieter than a wood violin.
Kinder to your neighbors.
I really like the shape, Nick! It's definitely an interesting instrument and this was a great review!
Maybe it would work better amplified? It is indeed very quiet 🤫
excellent review thanks. I would probably look elswhere for modern construction violin. Regards
meant to add that it sound more vibrant with the maple bridge but still unsurprisingly quiet.
Thanks for the review. Can't help but feel you have buyer's remorse. Send it back.
I did send it back. I made this video for fun and was super excited to see the violin. But when I realized it, I did not know how to politely express how terrible it functioned as a violin. It really was a struggle to play it and made less sound than what you can hear in the video.
@@newbaroque Glad to hear. Thanks again for the review :)
Honestly if you wanna pay $400 and up, I’d personally go to a music store or dealer in violins. Never buy from online cause it could be amazing or complete crap. Depending on if the person is trying to scam you or not.
Thank you very much for this review. I had seen this type at a local talent show. I bought a mezzo-forte evo carbon fiber violin. A little more expand to but a much better quality instrument. It has served me well in the temperate rainforest that is southeastern Alaska.
You rock, man. It's a shame you don't have more viewers than you do!
Thanks for the vid. I was thinking of getting one to take backpacking. I thought it would be fairly impervious to the elements. However, since you mention that it is heavier than a wood violin, I’ll have to think about that.
It would be interesting to compare this with the sound of a really expensive carbon fiber violin. If you can ever access one, ease consider sharing a video comparison with us. Also, your wood viilin is obviously a quality instrument. In all fairness, how good would a $300 wooden violin sound? Thanks. I found this video to be extremely interesting!
"I am a violinist, i am not a professional box opener." - Nick, 2022
Thank you for this video, I enjoyed your review as well as your excellent playing. I am tall with a long neck, so not being able to use my usual shoulder rest would prevent me from buying this violin. I used to have a Rubus violin built in Russia in 1850 that had no overhang on the top and back plates over the sides. It was loud with a beautiful tone, but there was no way to attach a chin or shoulder rest, so I had to sell it.
Your violin has beautiful flamed maple and a gorgeous, warm tone. I suspect it is worth a fair chunk of change, so comparing it to a $300 Amazon buy is not really a fair fight😁. It would be interesting to compare your violin to a professional quality carbon fiber violin such as one from Gayford or Luis & Clark. It would be great if they would lend you one, or if there is a shop near you that carries one, perhaps they’d let you try it out with your camera on?
Thanks for the video. Interesting.
I wonder if a brighter string would help. Playable outside for sure.
I'm still looking for a carbon fibre cello that I can afford. Looking at Dinner.
The Donner seems to lack harmonic development, though the maple bridge does have some benefit in that area, albeit small. Regular wood fiddles have very carefully proportioned interior dimensions that work to add weight to selected harmonics - this is where the richness of tone, the "vocal" nature of the sound comes from. Seems to me that it will always be less expressive, not only in dynamics, but also in the infinite variety of tonal qualities that mark a great violin as well as a great player.
Just dropping in with a little tidbit to add to the violin gear conversation. So, I've been dabbling in the violin world as a beginner, and I gotta say, it's been quite the journey in last 15 months.
I actually have a wooden violin, and let me tell you, it sounds pretty darn good - at least to my untrained ears. But here's the kicker: compared to the Glasser Carbon Fiber Violin I recently picked up, my wooden one feels like a luxury item, even though it's technically cheaper in the grand scheme of things in violin world. My teacher gave it a whirl and was pleasantly surprised by how good it sounded, considering its price tag. Apparently, it's more than capable of taking me up to around Grade 5 or 6 level, which is pretty impressive considering I'm still wrapping up Grade 1. Talk about getting ahead of myself, right?
Don't get me wrong, the Glasser violin holds its own in terms of sound. It's got a strong projection and a solid sound overall. But my wooden violin, well, it's like comparing apples to oranges. It's almost 2.5 times the price of the Glasser, but in the violin world, it's still considered pretty affordable. You were talking about carbon fiber violins, right? Well, I stumbled upon the Glasser Carbon Fiber Violin, and it's been a lifesaver for me as a beginner.
Now, I'm not saying it's the best of the best - I'm sure you've got way more experience than me in that department. But it's been a solid choice for me so far, especially considering my budget.
The cool thing about it is that it's got a pretty standard violin shape, so you can use any shoulder rest you like. But here's the catch I took the glasser violin to local violin shop get lutheir to do professional setup - the sound post is glued in, so you can't swap it out like you would with a regular wooden violin what a shame if need adjustment which luthier felt slight adjustment is required and he couldn't remove it.
I grabbed mine from fiddershop.com for around $960 USD, which seemed like a decent deal for the comfort and playability it offers. But if you're looking to splurge a bit more, maybe check out the Mezzo-Forte Evo Line. I've heard good things about that one too.
Anyways, just thought I'd share my newbie perspective. Keep rocking those videos, and looking forward to seeing what you come up with next!
Great VDO • Thank You - What if a luthier does a setup and installs professional strings? Maybe a custom bridge?
I saw a guy playing a Rainsong guitar in the drizzle on Seattle
Well done review.
Cool video! But I can't find any such violins on Amazon!🙃
I saw this Violin on Walmart’s website. Kinda cool! A little quiet. It might make a good practice Violin or travel instrument. Thanks much! 🌞🎻
And it should stay in tune as it is stiffer to begin with, and doesn't change with humidity. I am thinking the "tinniness" could be addressed as well by either drilling some well placed holes in it (which may add some volume) or sticking foam tape on the inside to provide the muting that wood naturally provides. Really there is no reason to other than the sound everyone is used to. Why not have some variation... The volume being less is probably good for practicing as well. I think that is what you meant too.
It would be interesting how this would work with a pickup for amplification for stage use.
Theres no "wood" sound. And Im surprised how much I like that. 😀 Maybe I will buy one myself? Thank for making this video! 👍
Can you please tell me what kind of shoulder rest are you using on the Rising V?
i want buy a Carbon violin.. but in classic shape..even if he look alike very futurist...and sleek looking
I believe it would need to be amplified If I were playing on a showboat I believe it would work well for that. River show boats get everything wet. This might be good.
The maple bridge sounds better to me. Thanks for using your instrument for comparison. Lovely playing!!
Loved the comparison.
Loved your playing!
Hated the Carbon Violin.
And found that you definetely need a nicer microphone ^^ I think spending maybe 200 $ would get you far. Or tweak with the setting on the current one.
Woooah, that violin looks really cool and neat!
I think the word you were looking for contains AP and CR but not in that order. (I'm not a violinist).
Use of suction cups with matt surface is really weird decision. Matt surface will leak the suction slowly away no matter what you try
Great review ! Wondering if an electric version would come out ? I dont find it neither on amazon anymore… i do like the design quite a lot 😊
My daughter has three carbon fiber guitar, whch she likeas a lot. The were quite a bit more expensive than your violin. I have a carbion fiber bass bow, which I keep in my car, since I have been known to pack up my bass, forgetting to actually put the bow in the bow case. ;- I've had to use it a couple of tyim4es, and it reqlly works very well in the orchestra context. Then again, that bow cost more than your violin.
I suppose that if I found a carbon fiber bass for $400, I would tqake a flyer on it. Of course, $400 bass that plays aty all would be a miracle. That was a fun video, thank you,
Those guitars are probably actual carbon fiber, this thing is not. It's basically plastic with a little CF added to the mix for strength.
Given that her guitars a=cost between $2000 and $2500, you are correct. They are actual carbon fiber. Nt bass bow is $500, it;s the real deal as well, although there are better options. For the money, as an emergency bow, I am very happy with it,
Were you looking at the wrong camera ?
Paused at 24:24
It did *not* take me long to hear the difference between the two violins. Your usual violin has more depth to the sound it produces than the carbon fiber one. The carbon fiber violin has a tinny sound that is more shallow.
Well duh, what did you expect from a plastic violin? Calling this thing CF should be illegal.
Drills some holes, fit it with electronics, then crank it up!
amazing video!
You play very well … as if you’d make any violin sound pretty swell ….
The traditional wood violin 🎻 sounds warmer …
I think , maybe this Donner Carbon Finer Violin 🎻 might sound more interesting if It had a pickup to plug it into a sound system … with effect pedal or unit … (etc …: )
Great unboxing and comparison. I can see how you hold yourself to not be critical about the sound on this plastic toy, but even with a recorded and youtube compressed sound, you can tell that it is just a joke in comparison to a wooden instrument. And also by its price it is easy to say it can not be any good.
Sounds like my violin with a practice. With the limited dynamic range, I think it would be difficult to learn on this violin past a very early stage.
Interesting. I do have one question, did you get your $400 back?
Any Carbon Fiber Upright Basses ?
So the resonance - you said it vibrates your jaw. To me it adds a slight- for lack of a better term - kazoo sound to it, compared to the warm rich wood violin… take it camping?
it seems to be a neighborhood's darling, you can also practice at midnight. For me as an opera singer i like it too, we don't have to fight with proud violinists
It might be a good practice fiddle, if it's set up right, but it's sure not a performance violin. The sound is trapped. Back to the drawing board. I think they're on to something, but they have to do some more experimentation. In Donner's own video they must be using a pick-up. I know I'll get one if they get the acoustics worked out.
tweeters are allways decent....if strings are decents ..lol.. but for Bass soundboard is very very important. this instrument have a really good sound even in G string...really amazing . even if projection stay at level.of a Begginer instrument
It lacks depth, and volume, but that is an advantage when amplified, as bowed instruments are feedback happy. I saw a carbon fibre viola demo, and that sounded awesome, so I dont think its impossible to make a great sounding acoustic carbon fibre instrument, but this isn't it.
Look into the Electric Violin Shop. On UA-cam. That guy is a seriously knowledgeable player that sells unique, modern violins. He could play any instrument and recommend one for your price range. Thanks for sharing this!
Most likely the design, reflects on the sound.
Geee!!! The wooden violin is far better in all senses! Thanks for your video.
my dad bought it for me as my first violin and now im really upset i had no idea it wasnt a very good violin
treat it as an electric violin with EQ and other filters to make it sound good to you.
Interesting, today I learned that this carbon fiber violin sounds rather lifeless, and metallic, versus your wood violin which sounds woody, warm and "like a violin".
Might this be a good violin for quieter practice in an apartment in the evening?
I wouldn't recommend it. It doesn't really play like a violin and just feels faulty
One would just use a practice mute for $10
I heard someone played a carbon fiber violin before and it sounded so great only in a studio recording with a microphone and an amplifier , the carbon fiber bridge may fit the violin more than the wooden bridge but the wooden bridge makes the violin louder and sounds more like a wooden violin in my opinion 😅but anyway I always prefer the traditional wooden violin 🎻, a carbon fiber violin is a very interesting instrument , new experiment and decent price why not to have one 😊
This is not really carbon fiber. It's an injection molded plastic with carbon fibers mixed into the plastic for reinforcement. Basically the same as GFRP (glass fiber reinforced plastic) just with CF instead of glass. In other words, it's a plastic toy compared to actual laid carbon fiber construction.
@@wingracer1614 I’ve been watching so many good reviews about the yamaha YEV 104 electric violin , what is your opinion about it ?
@@TuanHoang-hb2id No idea, I know almost nothing about violins. My expertise is more in carbon fiber manufacture for motorsports and injection molding of fiber reinforced components for other applications. I also like music and play electric bass guitar, piano and drums but only ever even held a violin once. I do know every Yamaha product I have ever had has been good ranging from the outboard motor on my boat and my acoustic guitar to the concert grand piano I once got to play.
@@wingracer1614 ohh I see that’s cool 😎, I’ve never owned an electric violin but played on it once , I would choose to buy a yamaha electric violin over the carbon fiber one 🤓
Sonido diferente,algo apagado el de fibra de Carbono,para estudiar,pero no se compara el sonido con el de madera,saludos,gracias.
It sounds like a violin with the mute, so I guess it needs to be amplified for live gigs, especially outdoors. Nice review! 🙂
I looked inside with a mirror and the soundpost isn’t even making contact with the top so I think that explains the sound
@@newbaroque Wow. Just wow.
@@newbaroque- That sounds like a major construction flaw. Did you contact the manufacturer about the issue?
It’s ok to say Luis and Clark lol. Thought you were gonna choke there. 😅 my L&C is loud. I play with a mute indoors usually. I’m shocked how good it sounds. But it’s only as good as the player. Someone would be disappointed comparing sound due to your higher skill level vs beginner thinking they pick up the carbon and sound like you.
Look at you all handsome. I can’t concentrate on the violin review! (Jus teasin 🤣)
Thank God! you were not playing it for the first time with a symphony.
Please move your camera to the top of your monitor - so you can read your script without constantly looking away from the camera!
Is that a Sony A7SII camera that you're using?
Does the ghast plushie have a name? it's sooo cuuuute I want one X_X
Perhaps we could name him Rick Ghastly
@@newbaroque lol nick nice name choice.
This was a fascinating review of a very interesting instrument. I admire the designers for trying to be innovative with the violin shape, but I can't help but wonder of a deeper body might have made a better sound. It also looks to me like those who play their violin without a shoulder rest may be forced to use a shoulder rest for this violin. And it also look like if you want a different style chin rest, you will be out of luck. I read a few of the Amazon reviews for this violin, and it does not look like anyone is impressed with the sound that it makes. Even though you didn't try it, I would be willing to bet that even your 'beater' violin has a better and louder sound than this carbon-fiber violin.
Is the portrait behind you glowing?
You made a good review video but it’s a hard to see where this fits on the flowchart of violin needs and choices. It’s not good for beginners. The shoulder rest is impracticable and can’t be substituted. I’d assume that a profession could eventually justify getting a Glasser violin. Or, as you had already done, having a lessor instrument as a second violin for most outdoor needs is probably the better choice.
Why is it so skinny?i have an elixir carbon violin and it's louder.
Amati 🎻create the firsts violins with PERFECT SONG.....strad and Guarneri added power at this perfection 🔊!!! looool sweet is not a default... PS seriously eyes closed, im sure than its a very old Baroque Violin. accuracy :4/5 regularity :4/5: power: 1/5. with Baroque Strings you can maybe obtain a funny result. this violin is expresive and mot "cold" in despite of his buiilt process withouth wood .....its totaly opposite .
It looks cool but the difference between the two instruments speaks volumes. If you had need of a coffin for a leprechaun, it might be worth the price. It's not as bad as the squeaker ordered from JC Penny I had to play in middle school. That violin is probably perfect for a Pet Cemetery sequel; I believe I would try to pawn it off on Mary Lambert if I were you.
I just bought this to use visually for videos 😂
I felt the carbon was shaky in sound production and uneven. The wood has a richer sound. Certainly better vibrato. Maybe ok to decorate a cafe? I think you would not want to purchase a bad instrument for a beginning student. It doesn't sound good to me.
Oh boy, should have heard the sound before watching the entire video
Tone sounds very thin and tinny, not very resonant with any depth.
Finally get to hear it at 21:46.
If you can throw it around..?? It may save the neighbors ears…not everyone wants to hear hours of scales.:)
Thanks for your review. It’s a bit of a caution. It sounds more like a violin shaped object than a real violin.
Seeing this for $99 now on Amazon... i don't even play violin... but here I am
Great video, great playing, lousy instrument (I didn't men the wooden violin) 😉😂This fiddle sounds very thin and cheap - and also the shoulder rest does not seem to work properly, with those suction cups.
"i am a violinist, not a professional box opener"
i mean, after all those boxes-inside-boxes..... 😂
If you're interested in the instrument but not the box it came in, start around 13.30.
Unboxing is useless.
but you’ll miss the interesting stain 👀
And that my friend is how "cheap" becomes expensive. I don't know about anybody else out there, but I would feel a bit stung by spending $400 on something I'll never use.