My father had a lot of respect for Ingo. He was a great fighter.The 3 epic battles between them were well fought and remembered.They became real good friends after these fights and would visit each other often. I applaud Ingo and my Dad for their achievements, and also for exemplifying the importance of what happens outside the ring as equal to inside the ring - Floyd Patterson, II
Floyd Patterson II I was a kid in elementary school, the third grade to be exact when your dad fought Jimmy Ellis. Your dad should have been a 3 time champion. He killed Ellis that whole fight. And I really mean killed him. Which would have put him line for Joe Frazier in his prime which would have been no easy task but it is the heavyweight division.
I met your Dad in the early 1970s, I was a cop and he had his pistol permit in my precinct, i was proud to shake his hand. I can’t tell you what a great man and great fighter. I listened to the first two fights on transistor radio and the last on TV. Your Dad had such a disadvantage fighting so light and small, he made up for it with speed and heart, for him to be a World Champ is truly one of boxing’s great achievements!
I was a huge Floyd Patterson fan. I saw the first fight on teleprompter in Houston. I was devastated when Floyd lost his title but pleased when he won it back in the 2nd fight. He was a great fighter and could have reigned as a light heavyweight champion for many years. The money and prestige were in the heavyweight division though. Floyd was really too small to fight there but did and held his own for awhile. RIP Floyd. You were a terrific human being and a credit to your sport.
Big fan of your Dad sir, and it is nice to hear that they became friends afterward's, mutual respect between 2 men who understood what it meant to be a sportsman.
He came up just as the heavyweight division was getting bigger. A few years before he became champ, there were a bunch of light-heavyweights who jumped up into the heavyweight class like Moore and Charles. Back then, it seemed like speed and stamina were valued over size. Very common to see a contender heavyweight bout with guys between 185-195 in the early-mid1950's. Floyd deserves a lot of credit for being a legitimate threat against guys with pretty big size advantages.
A great deal of nonsense is talked when referring to Patterson's weight. Back in the day most heavies weighed around 185 to 200lb and no one said that they should be in the lower division. Even taking it up to 1970 Jerry Quarry was in that range and Goyo Peralta, a fattened up Lt heavy, was able to go the distance with the young and fearsome Foreman; WBA champ Ellis started his career as a middleweight, same as Floyd.
Floyd was much more aggressive and spirited in this third fight. He still didn't want to meet Ingo's right hand, and Ingo was wary of Floyd's left hook which sent him to Lalaland in the 2nd fight.
In the 6th round Ingo felt that Floyd was getting tired, but he pushed his luck a little bit too far by boxing more upright than he should and that was why Floyd managed to hit him rather hard with his leaping left hook. Had Ingo just gone on keeping o low style and clinching as much as he could, he would have had a chance to win by points. My impression is that neither of them had any of their best days, but of course Floyd deserved this win. RIP Floyd & Ingo
Patterson still champ until he fought the top boxers of the time Liston and Ali. those two fighters were legends and controlled the heavyweights. it was like Quarry (who came close to a title) who had good fights against Patterson but could not get past Ali or Frazier either. Boxers like Patterson and Quarry came up at the wrong time unfortunately.
In this fight Ingo was down twice, the first time you couldn't count really, the second time he was punched to the floor but could clearly get up to take the count when the referee with his back to Ingo said no more. Why was the referee so eager to stop this fight but not fight one? In fight one the referee gave Floyd I chance after chance to stand up after Ingo sent him to the floor at >5 times. Floyd didn´t even know where he was at a time. So why? It´s obvious, Ingo must not win again.
While this pair had their trilogy the division stagnated and worthy men were frozen out, in a continuation of the disgraceful Patterson era orchestrated by the despicable d'Amato. Sonny had to wait until '62, Williams '66, Folley '67 and Machen didn't get his big chance.
you have never seen a fighter beat a count and then have the ref stop the fight because he believes the fighter is unable to continue? you must not watch very much boxing.
@@tc1817 I watch a lot of boxing and I think that Ingo would have been able to recover from this knock down. True story is that the referee didn't do his work correct.
@@erikandersson8195 no. not correct. the ref was standing right with the boxer and thought that he would not be able to defend himself, so he stopped the fight. now go fuck yourself.
Agreed. Ingo was lucky the ref stopped the fight, he was in no shape to continue. I'm fed up seeing Refs allow a fight to go on when a man is incapable of defending himself, seen it too much the last few years.
Great fucking fight. Even though Floyd was the better boxer you could really see Ingemars improvement from their first fights. Much more combinations and dynamic work. And even though Floyd was outboxing him for most of the match it's one of those cases where Ingemar only needs a single good hit to turn it around and win. Also gotta love the fact that Floyd immediately goes for a hug with Ingemar when the match is over. Great dude.
@@dcasey77 Marciano chose to retire avoiding to fight Floyd. It's a known fact. It was a wise judgement. Marciano wouldn't been respected as highly as if he had retired as 49-1 instead of the 49-0 record. The winner of Patterson vs Tommy Jackson was supposed to fight Marciano for the title. Jackson was Marciano's main sparring partner who got let go by the camp because Jackson was getting too much for Marciano. Floyd beat him in Jackson's fight to prove his strength asides from his skill and the punching power. Marciano didn't want no part of him. Rocky was gonna come back to fight Johansson,but he decided to stay retired after seeing Floyd beat him in the rematch.
@@himawalincat9350 Thank you. Someone who KNOWS what they're talking about and most importantly supported by FACTS and not biased emotional investment.
@@himawalincat9350 Pretty much everything you wrote was false. Cus D'Amato, Floyd's trainer, admitted that he didn't want Patterson facing Marciano and that's why he went heavyweight after his retirement. Rocky was also getting fleeced by his manager and was beginning to have back problems while training, so he wasn't feeling good about his career moving forward. That spurred on his retirement. And to be clear, Floyd had the heart of a lion. I bet he'd have loved to have faced Rocky. It was Cus who didn't want it to happen. Rocky stated in an interview that he'd be interested in fighting Johansson to "bring the title back to America". In a later interview, he said that he had trained for about a month, but wasn't feeling it. Floyd hadn't won the rematch by that point, so it had nothing to do with him. Marciano didn't feel as strong or as enduring as before. His match with Joe Louis really impacted how he looked at things. He didn't want to come back past his prime and get beaten. And in 1959, after not having boxed in four years, it was probably a wise decision to leave the gloves off. For what it's worth, I think they would have had a great fight. Floyd beat one of the best pound-for-pound fighters of all-time, Archie Moore, quicker than Marciano did. He'd have also been Rocky's fastest opponent. The way I picture it going is that Patterson is winning on points, but gets hit with that bomb in the later rounds. He always struggled against the hardest hitters, so he'd need to have a damn-near perfect match to win it. Just for the simple fact that I can't picture him KO'ing a man who'd never been KO'd and had only ever been knocked down twice in 49 fights. Whatever would have happened, I don't think it would have been quick or a beat-down in either man's favor.
But Patterson was gone after the first knock down....he even stood up and started going towards his corner and later said that he didn't remember anything after knockdown and once he regained senses with shaky legs he heard ref shouting GO TO THE NEUTRAL CORNER to Ingo...and Patterson thought ref is telling him to go to neutral corner
yeah i was wondering the same thing but for the opposite reasons maybe in the first fight they did'nt mind seeing a African American getting beat down and embarrassing his-self but do you think that they would have wanted to be embarrassed after they found out that Ingo was'nt going to win again so they stopped it quick to save him and them from embarrassment. Back in those days it was'nt hard to see things like that but you can look at it both ways any man will go down if you knock his equilibrium off but that's not a knock out.
Yeah that first fight was a fkn disgrace. Those assholes shouldve never let Floyd take that pounding when it was clearly over. yet this one they call off much much sooner.
My father had a lot of respect for Ingo. He was a great fighter.The 3 epic battles between them were well fought and remembered.They became real good friends after these fights and would visit each other often. I applaud Ingo and my Dad for their achievements, and also for exemplifying the importance of what happens outside the ring as equal to inside the ring - Floyd Patterson, II
Floyd Patterson II I was a kid in elementary school, the third grade to be exact when your dad fought Jimmy Ellis. Your dad should have been a 3 time champion. He killed Ellis that whole fight. And I really mean killed him. Which would have put him line for Joe Frazier in his prime which would have been no easy task but it is the heavyweight division.
+Floyd Patterson II Your dad was a great man inside and outside the ring
Your father was a gentleman.
@Floyd Patterson II Hmmmmm….
Who were your siblings, Floyd II?
I met your Dad in the early 1970s, I was a cop and he had his pistol permit in my precinct, i was proud to shake his hand. I can’t tell you what a great man and great fighter. I listened to the first two fights on transistor radio and the last on TV. Your Dad had such a disadvantage fighting so light and small, he made up for it with speed and heart, for him to be a World Champ is truly one of boxing’s great achievements!
I was a huge Floyd Patterson fan. I saw the first fight on teleprompter in Houston. I was devastated when Floyd lost his title but pleased when he won it back in the 2nd fight. He was a great fighter and could have reigned as a light heavyweight champion for many years. The money and prestige were in the heavyweight division though. Floyd was really too small to fight there but did and held his own for awhile. RIP Floyd. You were a terrific human being and a credit to your sport.
Floyd pretty much invented the superman punch aka the leaping left. Classy man.
Three classic fights by two evenly matched fighters.
Big fan of your Dad sir, and it is nice to hear that they became friends afterward's, mutual respect between 2 men who understood what it meant to be a sportsman.
both well matched...floyd was a bit more skilful.
To think that during this trilogy between Patterson and Johansson, Sonny Liston was biding his time just waiting for his chance.
It just wasn't your typical KO. He was hit behind the ear which is an equilibium shot. He seemed fully conscious but dizzy as hell trying to get up.
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I don’t think that Patterson was ever a full Heavy weight fighter. Hw fought amongst giants.
That's right he was not a heavyweight he was a little guy fighting big giant that's why he's in my top 5 heavyweights
He came up just as the heavyweight division was getting bigger. A few years before he became champ, there were a bunch of light-heavyweights who jumped up into the heavyweight class like Moore and Charles. Back then, it seemed like speed and stamina were valued over size. Very common to see a contender heavyweight bout with guys between 185-195 in the early-mid1950's.
Floyd deserves a lot of credit for being a legitimate threat against guys with pretty big size advantages.
A great deal of nonsense is talked when referring to Patterson's weight. Back in the day most heavies weighed around 185 to 200lb and no one said that they should be in the lower division. Even taking it up to 1970 Jerry Quarry was in that range and Goyo Peralta, a fattened up Lt heavy, was able to go the distance with the young and fearsome Foreman; WBA champ Ellis started his career as a middleweight, same as Floyd.
Johansson was up at 9 and fell against the ref; a legitimate stoppage.
Floyd was much more aggressive and spirited in this third fight. He still didn't want to meet Ingo's right hand, and Ingo was wary of Floyd's left hook which sent him to Lalaland in the 2nd fight.
In the 6th round Ingo felt that Floyd was getting tired, but he pushed his luck a little bit too far by boxing more upright than he should and that was why Floyd managed to hit him rather hard with his leaping left hook. Had Ingo just gone on keeping o low style and clinching as much as he could, he would have had a chance to win by points. My impression is that neither of them had any of their best days, but of course Floyd deserved this win. RIP Floyd & Ingo
3 memorable fights..a mutual healthy respect
The Hammer couldn't have beat Liston but there are serious issues with Patterson winning 2&3
1.55 Paterson comes back with a left hook!
Thanks for the video
Patterson still champ until he fought the top boxers of the time Liston and Ali. those two fighters were legends and controlled the heavyweights. it was like Quarry (who came close to a title) who had good fights against Patterson but could not get past Ali or Frazier either. Boxers like Patterson and Quarry came up at the wrong time unfortunately.
i have the breakdown on why patterson lost the first fight, and also his strengths. come see if you like analysis of old fights!
Reemus Boxing I shall do that.
Floyd himself has said that no-one would have beaten Ingo in 1959, not even Liston.
In this fight Ingo was down twice, the first time you couldn't count really, the second time he was punched to the floor but could clearly get up to take the count when the referee with his back to Ingo said no more.
Why was the referee so eager to stop this fight but not fight one?
In fight one the referee gave Floyd I chance after chance to stand up after Ingo sent him to the floor at >5 times. Floyd didn´t even know where he was at a time.
So why?
It´s obvious, Ingo must not win again.
With his back to Ingo?? Not remotely true. 11:03
While this pair had their trilogy the division stagnated and worthy men were frozen out, in a continuation of the disgraceful Patterson era orchestrated by the despicable d'Amato. Sonny had to wait until '62, Williams '66, Folley '67 and Machen didn't get his big chance.
Why did they stop the fight after 8 second. Ingo was up after 9 second. What a bad refree.
i agree...lame rev...
you have never seen a fighter beat a count and then have the ref stop the fight because he believes the fighter is unable to continue? you must not watch very much boxing.
@@tc1817 I watch a lot of boxing and I think that Ingo would have been able to recover from this knock down. True story is that the referee didn't do his work correct.
@@erikandersson8195 no. not correct. the ref was standing right with the boxer and thought that he would not be able to defend himself, so he stopped the fight. now go fuck yourself.
Agreed. Ingo was lucky the ref stopped the fight, he was in no shape to continue. I'm fed up seeing Refs allow a fight to go on when a man is incapable of defending himself, seen it too much the last few years.
Ingemar Johansson is the GOAT... in Sweden :D
Great fucking fight. Even though Floyd was the better boxer you could really see Ingemars improvement from their first fights. Much more combinations and dynamic work. And even though Floyd was outboxing him for most of the match it's one of those cases where Ingemar only needs a single good hit to turn it around and win.
Also gotta love the fact that Floyd immediately goes for a hug with Ingemar when the match is over. Great dude.
Not allways the best ones win ....
What?
Floyd Patterson looked like a good boxer. Would like to see Patterson and Marciano go at it
Thomas Donohue You must have really disliked Patterson if you wanted to see him fight Marciano.
Marciano would have beaten him senseless.
@Happiness is not liveable Marciano would have *murdered* Patterson.
@@dcasey77 Marciano chose to retire avoiding to fight Floyd. It's a known fact. It was a wise judgement. Marciano wouldn't been respected as highly as if he had retired as 49-1 instead of the 49-0 record. The winner of Patterson vs Tommy Jackson was supposed to fight Marciano for the title. Jackson was Marciano's main sparring partner who got let go by the camp because Jackson was getting too much for Marciano. Floyd beat him in Jackson's fight to prove his strength asides from his skill and the punching power. Marciano didn't want no part of him. Rocky was gonna come back to fight Johansson,but he decided to stay retired after seeing Floyd beat him in the rematch.
@@himawalincat9350 Thank you. Someone who KNOWS what they're talking about and most importantly supported by FACTS and not biased emotional investment.
@@himawalincat9350 Pretty much everything you wrote was false. Cus D'Amato, Floyd's trainer, admitted that he didn't want Patterson facing Marciano and that's why he went heavyweight after his retirement. Rocky was also getting fleeced by his manager and was beginning to have back problems while training, so he wasn't feeling good about his career moving forward. That spurred on his retirement. And to be clear, Floyd had the heart of a lion. I bet he'd have loved to have faced Rocky. It was Cus who didn't want it to happen.
Rocky stated in an interview that he'd be interested in fighting Johansson to "bring the title back to America". In a later interview, he said that he had trained for about a month, but wasn't feeling it. Floyd hadn't won the rematch by that point, so it had nothing to do with him. Marciano didn't feel as strong or as enduring as before. His match with Joe Louis really impacted how he looked at things. He didn't want to come back past his prime and get beaten. And in 1959, after not having boxed in four years, it was probably a wise decision to leave the gloves off.
For what it's worth, I think they would have had a great fight. Floyd beat one of the best pound-for-pound fighters of all-time, Archie Moore, quicker than Marciano did. He'd have also been Rocky's fastest opponent. The way I picture it going is that Patterson is winning on points, but gets hit with that bomb in the later rounds. He always struggled against the hardest hitters, so he'd need to have a damn-near perfect match to win it. Just for the simple fact that I can't picture him KO'ing a man who'd never been KO'd and had only ever been knocked down twice in 49 fights. Whatever would have happened, I don't think it would have been quick or a beat-down in either man's favor.
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your father was great
no body work whatsoever from either guy
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johansson poot patterson on the flor 3 times,patterson poot johansson 2 times,that second knockdown of patterson,must be very hardly
The count was a little fast but he was counted out, rising off his knee at 10.
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In the first fight, at least 2 of Ingo's knockdowns were shots behind the ears
But Patterson was gone after the first knock down....he even stood up and started going towards his corner and later said that he didn't remember anything after knockdown and once he regained senses with shaky legs he heard ref shouting GO TO THE NEUTRAL CORNER to Ingo...and Patterson thought ref is telling him to go to neutral corner
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Floyd was a good cruiserweight but not a top heavyweight
yeah i was wondering the same thing but for the opposite reasons maybe in the first fight they did'nt mind seeing a African American getting beat down and embarrassing his-self but do you think that they would have wanted to be embarrassed after they found out that Ingo was'nt going to win again so they stopped it quick to save him and them from embarrassment. Back in those days it was'nt hard to see things like that but you can look at it both ways any man will go down if you knock his equilibrium off but that's not a knock out.
Yeah that first fight was a fkn disgrace. Those assholes shouldve never let Floyd take that pounding when it was clearly over. yet this one they call off much much sooner.
both these guys jaws came straight from an Italian family. Fragile.
That white guy can't box. The number one rule for someone who has no boxing skills is to be able to take a hit.