BEST Winch UPGRADES you can possibly do!! | HUGE Winch Power Gains | 24 Volt Tourer Set-up
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- I finally get some lithium winch batteries for the wagon, this has been on the list for a couple years now. The overall gains from these batteries was very surprising, we dive into whether its worth spending the money and setting up a car for 24v plus a whole heap more.
Awesome watch man, you always hit points I wish I’d touched on haha.
And for those watching, Dan actually is the reason I got mine, not the other way around, he’s had his Enerdrive for ages and recommended to me. ❤🤙🏻
Thanks Timmy!
Here’s a couple of videos I talked about throughout this video. If you managed to sit through this 35 minute talkathon then your appreciated 🤣🤣 drop a like and comment while your here 😉
12 to 24 volt winch comparison video, best upgrade for a winch -
ua-cam.com/video/vmEpuv2AyqU/v-deo.html
Winch solenoid fix -
ua-cam.com/video/TazXysstt3Y/v-deo.html
Also here are the batteries for anyone interested
megalifebattery.com.au/products/mv-31r?variant=12373167931495
Some awesome content Daniel, so much knowledge, love that you take the time to do these tests and show them with comparisons! And also to go through most comments and reply to them. Love the vids, Great work and keep it up mate!
Thanks for watching mate, I try and pack the videos with as much info as possible! Also like interacting with people who comment, happy to chat to people. Cheers
Great video and good testing.
Have you thought about adding a strain gauge to the end of the winch rope when doing these tests and seeing what kg/tonnes are being applied to the winch/rope?
Thanks mate. If I had one floating around it would be interesting to see some numbers on that too! Might look into it one day.
Great walk through of your system with the reasons you made the swap. Look forward to see the benefits over time.
Thanks mate, I’m keen to give it a proper test out!
I have gone the enerdrive 24v after watching timmy as well, and I changed from my charger i had 😂 I have the marshall 31 1100 batteries which is almost the same set up as you now. Such a follower 😂😂
They are a good little unit, work very well! Very similar set up 🤣🤣
Don’t mind hearing your voice as it mostly informative
Thanks mate
@@DanielKistler lol maybe one day I’ll get a high mount on project 75
Plenty of time to get it done 😉
Great video mate! Going separate system for 24v is the go!
Keen to see how you like the lithium batts over time!
Thanks mate i definitely agree. So far so good!
Ripper video as usual. Massive gains Only thing I wonder is the charge rate going to be enough for several winches
Thanks mate. Yeah it will be fine and has been fine. I ran no alternator on my racecar for a couple years with no issues.
@@DanielKistler sweet good to know
Good video cool to learn some new stuff. Also had a question looking at some remote res shocks for my gu patrol wagon don’t want to blow the budget but don’t want to cheap out what would you recommend in your opinion? Cheers 🍻
Thanks mate. I’m a big fan of the superior shocks, good quality at a decent price and all parts are available.
Is there as much benefit for a budget bloke running 24v to his 12v low mount winch with just some ordinary ns70’s and maybe a 2nd 24v alternator or cheaper supercharge box? Does it become too unreliable with the cheaper options?
In my opinion if your on a budget then the money can be spent better elsewhere on the car, as long as the winch works that’s all that matters. Down the track when you’ve got funds for a good set up then tackle it.
Do you earth the 24v through the chassis or do you run your motor earths back to the battery’s.
Winch motors must earth back to batteries otherwise you’ll see performance loss. But I also earth to chassis and body aswell. Earth is important
i might have to look at these. tried a DCS 80 extreme in a comp a couple years ago and pretty sure my single high speed low mount was pulling 400amps on hard pulls -the BMS kept tripping out for 30 secs . in a stage - this sucked. one of the other massive advantages is they charge extremely quickly off alternator. i ended up putting in my 200 series and never tripped, but recently had bms replaced under warranty. i replaced in the patrol with the same fullriver as you had. the power on winching on a single battery, single winch motor 12v set up in weekend warriors with the lithium is awesome. even noticed the windows wind up faster :)
That would have been frustrating, what motor did you have on the winch? Atleast it’s been put to good use now 🤣
@@DanielKistler sorry i thought i had replied. i can't remember - it's a 7+hp Sherpa motor. Now running the Runva high speed and it goes well with the Fullriver HC110. I might try the ones you have tried, but other priorities first to spend $$ on.
This could be a dumb question. But why do the two set ups draw different amps and volts in the same winching situation?
Me and a mate were talking about this so I’ll chuck the response here
AGM is more susceptible to voltage drop, and due to the power the winch wants in watts (amps x voltage is watts) it will demand more amps to compensate for the voltage drop, and voltage drop also has to go somewhere, and it does so by way of heat. So ohms law is whatever the motor demands in watts, the motor will get, and so if there is voltage drop, it must maintain watts so it rises amps, and heat
love the gq and its setup would love to go for a rip in it
dad had to sell his gq years ago due to a lode of rust and it went everywhere now we have a 80 series that also goes everywhere but more comfortably
Thanks mate, sounds like it would have seen some salt water haha.
The batteries are a no-brainer Daniel 👍✌
I agree mate!
Rippa video mate, super informative 👌
Cheers mate appreciate it
Do you need to turn off the chager when you winch ?
Nope, just leave it to do it’s thing, doesn’t draw off the charger.
Hi Daniel ,what is the recovery like in these compared to a gell battery ,and will they take the cycling we give them , cheers Steve
Hey mate, they seem to recover a lot quicker. From what they’ve told me they will be fine. Flick them a message if you have any further questions and they will be able to help you out. Cheers
Awesome info!
Thanks mate
Do you ground the winch to the chassis ? Or run a cable to the battery - ?
Both. Don’t use the chassis as the main earth for the winch, but earthing both battery banks to the chassis is good
@@DanielKistler thank you mate
Just re visiting this while avoid corporate flogs at work with y62s and kings dominators 😆
Hahahaha, only good stuff around here 🤣
Hey man you should look into going lipo batteries. For 6- 10kg you can get a 7s 20ah battery that is 24v and can pull 2000 amps for 30 seconds. Which also has way less voltage drop than those agms. CCA is a bad way of measuring how much amps a battery can deliver
Not to mention only cost $660 nzd for all 6
These are the batteries that can explode but if it’s in a metal box it wont burn down the vehicle
Hey mate, the lithiums in the video worked sweet but maybe in the future. Wasn’t really measuring the cca of battery but more the amps the winch will draw. Cheers
Yeah sweet as. Probably more suited for a zuk where weight matters a lot more
With the increased voltage of the lithiums you’ll pull less current/amps. It’s a win win all round.
Correct, definitely a win!
The talkathon is fine by me,such information doesn't come with the manufacturers brochure😊
🤣🤣 thanks mate
Like it nice work bro 👏
Thanks mate
Hey im pretty sure you can just run of one battery in 12v but charge at 24v.
That’s what it’s doing. One 12v battery into the 2 lithium 12v to make 24
No I mean you can use one of your 2 batterys that you are using for 24v as a 12v for fridge, compressor ect obviously it will slightly draw from one more than the other. But they still gets charged by 24v.
@@bensons. when 2 12v batteries are wired in 24v they don’t balance out, so if you draw 12v from one side it will flatten that side.
Also the talking is good bro, i enjoy your vids just the way they are, otherwise how do we learn if you dont explain shit.
Appreciate that mate. Cheers
Safiery do some great things. Not cheap tho. But. (Scotty Ai 24v) dc charger
I think I’ve seen them actually, pretty good!
The scotty is way over kill for doing this. I've talked to safiery about it. It's really becomes a good thing when you run a 48v system
@@ashleythornton1309
Yeah they work for 12, 24, 36, 48 volt. Pick your poison I guess. They do step downs and step ups. I run it in my NPS. Charge’s everything in fuk all time. 👍🍻
is the mega-life going well still??
Still going strong mate. Will do some updates in the future.
cheers mate i didn't even know these were around, i was just about to pull the trigger on 2 x DCS ones but these appear just as good and $400 cheaper each and if you havent killed one yet i aint got no chance lol great vids love your no BS style@@DanielKistler
@@davedave5457 look up Stefan Fischers video he posted recently about the DCS battery he was using.
I haven’t used these batteries for too long so I have no long term data but so far they have been solid and would happily buy again. Cheers mate
Give the people what they want.... more racecar videos😂
Your the first person I’ve seen ask me 🤣 taking it out tomorrow, it’s rooted haha
Did you pay for the products? Or a sponsor gift ?
I don’t see why you care so much about this all the time. But Alright not that it matters at all, but I paid money out of my own pocket, dollars and cents, for these. And even if I didn’t pay for these it wouldn’t have changed the video, I can’t “fake” the facts of testing.
@@DanielKistler I will believe and respect your answer now I know you paid for the gear. It’s that simple. You sure one of these batteries would be ok under the bonnet ? Have heard lithium don’t like heat
@@trickymon the company says it will be fine, They state to keep it away from any major heat sources so ideally on the intake side. They have a temperature max of like 82 degrees.
@15:00 Are you driving or winching? This is supposed to be a winching video. Why are you driving?
Car is literally in neutral and winching 🤣🤣
😂