2018 Honda Civic Si: Fun for Everyone - One Take
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The Honda Civic Si, new for this year, slots in between the Civic Sport, which we tested in 2017, and the track-ready Type R, which we drove at Road Atlanta. With 205 HP (easily tunable for more) from the 1.5T engine and a starting price of just $24,000, the Si could be a winner.
Check out the Civic Sport Here:
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And the Type R Review here:
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I screwed up on when the first Civic Si hit America. I knew the CRX Si came to us in 1985, but was lookin for the first date we got a coupe or sedan, and I missed a line mentioning the Si went on a hatch in 1986. 4th repeats 3rd, where we got the CRX Si first, then a hatch Si 1 year later. I’m a dumb.- ZK
I screwed up on when the first Civic Si hit America. I knew the CRX Si came to us in 1985, but was lookin for the first date we got a coupe or sedan, and I missed a line mentioning the Si went on a hatch in 1986. 4th repeats 3rd, where we got the CRX Si first, then a hatch Si 1 year later. I’m a dumb.- ZK
Just focus and write down some talking points. Less is more. Things people can look up on wikipedia they aren't interested in. They want to know how it feels. How the chassis feels. Tires, suspension. etc. We know the specs show us the heart of the car.
Zack go home and let Matt do these one takes...The best part with Matt was that he'd be able to compare this civic to 100s of other normal, exotic and insane cars. And let's just say Matt's irreplaceable and you're like every other of the 1000 car reviews on youtube.
The only way to get the knowledge to compare something to 100 cars is to drive 100 cars (or 1000).
Corrections and humility make for good journalism. Keep on driving Zack and do your best!
Always be Smart - Those that can, do. Those that can't, act like complete dicks in the UA-cam comments.
matt you look a bit healthier man keep it up
bwahahahaha!
I've got 3 Porsches and an 18 Si as my daily. Great car, Honda nailed it, love driving it!
Sure you do dude, sure you do..........
Props to Honda for keeping it Manual Transmission
It's cool but still in the city it sucks
It’s not that bad
This thing is awesome
In my opinion, it’s the perfect car for people who want a daily driver that has all the necessities with Apple CarPlay, blind spot with the lane watch, 10 speaker stereo, touchscreen display, LCD instrument cluster but also for someone who wants to have fun driving. I just got a 2018 coupe and I think if you buy this you need the coupe the sedan looks too boxy and the spoiler is too small.
Counter point, the coupe is a worse value. You get half the amount of doors for the same price ;) As a sedan owner, I totally agree that the coupe looks better though.
I've got the coupe SI and I agree completely. It's the perfect car for daily driving with a sporty flavour thrown in, and the value for money is insane!
how is the throttle response
@@MrMoa-lv4lm better than you would think
Wish they made this in a hatchback
In Europe we get one with a 1.5T, it's awesome for a daily car that is really good on a canyon road
I'm really glad that the more "regular car reviews" aren't gone and Zack is, imo, a really good car reviewer, who judges them in their respective context / purpose.
Thank you Honda for continuing to give us drivers cars.
Love my new 2019 Si Coupe! Coming from 15 years of multiple GTI’s and GLI’s this is a refreshing change at an awesome $22,900 price!
The shifting on my wife’s2018 Si seems to have gotten better and better with time. When new it felt like seriously rubber bushed, but after about 5m k miles or so it has improved dramatically. While still not as mechanically notchy as my 86’s it’s very very good. We really love this car! As good as this car is for the money, it’s hard to believe. Our payment is so low, it feels like we got away with something.
Nice loking car for 24k...you are doing a great job with the one takes Zack
It would look 10 times better if they got rid of all the fake scoops and vents and what not.
I own that car since 4 months and I absolutely love it. I love the turbo. And I get about 39 to 45 Highway mpg
Actually, you don't have to put the blinker on to activate Honda lanewatch. There's a button on the blinker stalk that activates it. Also, it allows you to disable it if you have your turn signal on and you dont want it(for example you want to the signal on but need to access the screen)-
I have an 18 si coupe. It's an amazing value. The lsd really helps pull through the turns.
We had a 2009 Si, we absolutely loved it. Didn’t want to get rid of it but, we needed a truck. The problem came when it was time to sell. Literally HUNDREDS of people looked at it, loved it UNTIL they opened the door and saw the stick. Out of all those people, I think two-three could drive a stick. ONE guy made me a low ball offer, but I told him for 200 less I would trade it in to avoid all the paper work with selling it. I miss it so much, best shifter in any car I have ever owned. (1971 FIAT 850 spider, 1964 MGB, 2005 G35S sedan for reference)
TexasScout Noneofyourbusiness Why were they surprised the car was a stick??? Were they dumb? They should have known it was stick only...
whatthe Yes and no. Yes, it was an Si, so they should have known. But to 99% of the driving public, it was just another Civic.
Insane that in 2021 these are being listed for sale for more than sticker with 20-40k miles on them
I absolutely love my 18 Si. I’ve owned four Civic Si’s and it’s by far the best out of the box.
Bang for buck for the win
I remember the first Corvette I rode in. I was impressed by the rise and peak of the front fenders. While the 10th gen is no Corvette, when I test drove my 2020 Coupe, the rise and peak of the front fenders reminded me of that 73.
Zack, you bring a different technical aspect to the reviews than Matt did, and there's nothing wrong with that. And I'm glad you're finding your own voice with it instead of trying to give the viewers Matt. Great job!
Got my 2018 for $20,674. Spent $450 on a ktuner stage 1 vittune, 257whp 311wtrq, 0-60 5.5 sec and the clutch is holding up.
38mpg, 1.5l monster of a motor and a shit ton of tuning potential. Currently there’s a 10 second Civic out there with just bolt one and a tune. Fuck your gti and st
Plus it’s reliable and it’ll last forever
This shitty review doesn’t do it justice
$20,674 wow I'm jealous.
Shang Tsung good
I love Zack's reviews, he doesn't cross the center line much if at all, he follows stop signs and uses turn signals. Then he also finds ways to have fun and inform us while entertaining.
4:41 "Ouuuhhh Fiesta ST"
Something a true car enthusiast would do lol
5:27 an S13 lol
abmeraz86 was a focus st though !
This is a nice car. An honest car. A car for all people. I would buy this car. This car deserves its price. People who are able, in the comments, you should buy this car.
This is a good car. Thank you, Zack, for this review. Very good job.
vtr0104 And it looks so freakin good!!
i own a 17 si and they are MUCH more fun than this video makes them seem. so much grip and very lightweight. very sorted car, and those of you complaining about the turbo, it’s still very free-revving, and if you know how to drive it you will always be in boost, because it’s such a small turbo. anyone who owns one can back me up on this.
Also own a 17 Si. From a drivers perspective, it is absolutely excellent. Acceleration is great, teh shifter is good (but I do see what they meant with the lack of a solid feel). Steering and brakes are freaking unbelievable for this price. You feel so confident with braking and turn in, and for a car this size it is surprisingly light on its feet.
The only small issue I have is a sixth-tenths launch is pretty hard to get smoothly. With the rev-hang, short 1st gear, and kind of numb clutch, it is very hard shift fast and smooth at the same time. Granted this is a very minor point and if you want to launch hard with zero regards to comfort. My ideal way of having fun (while keeping mostly within the law), is just to short shift into second, and have all your fun from there.
skifree i used to have a problem with the roughness, but i’ve changed my driving style because of it. it just takes a while to get used to. I’m definitely getting a more aggressive clutch soon to maybe get some feel back in the pedal
The 20 has a volume dial as well as led lights and different wheels, I love mine, they also have a bit of color on the corner pieces
I’ve driven only Honda manuals my whole life. At sea level and under 50 degrees weather it can hit 0-60 in just under six seconds with a HARD launch. The only thing that limits it is 2nd tops out at 57mph. But speed isn’t why you buy this car, it handles so well. The 63% front bias weight distribution allows the rear to kick out under aggressive turns. Mountain passes are so enjoyable in this car.
Also with just a tune the car can get about 40hp. Factor that in and it’s one of the best bang for the buck cars on the market.
Quady Mcflyface you forgot the crazy maintenance bills, the lack of reliability, etc.
Quady Mcflyface not trying to knock you by the way. I loved my gti when it worked right. Just got tired of the constant headaches that came with it.
@@thiscrazytangerine8954 that's not even the same car lol?
@@modernlife1321 I guess the guy deleted his comments... I was replying to Quady Mcflyface
its a great car, but i feel somethings missing from the previous gen’s. its a bit soulless somehow, or am i alone on this.
Egidijus Kajeta you’re not. I love the engine, love the package, but wasn’t super jazzed as I took it around an open road. Maybe it requires a chip, but compared even to the k20a’s gen, it didn’t feel amazing. Even the new accord 2.0 turbo was more exciting.
tune it and you'll have all the soul you want plus the aftermarket is about to come out with the bolt on turbo's upgrades
Egidijus Kajeta no moar vtec
Ankur Vakil k20 & k24 will always be better than a 1.5 turbo is just there for mpg
The engine doesn't feel special. I think as more cars are powered by little turbo engines, they can feel very similar.
However, I also wonder if I/we are always skeptical of new things. They say it takes three years for a new SNL cast to be accepted by the SNL audience. Every time there's a new cast, people talk down on them. For 3 years. I'm trying to analyze if that's my position with cars.
I need to drive the old Sis again to really know. I will say this engine, while strong, had no drama or occasion to it.
I worked at a Honda dealer in 1986 and drove many new Civic hatch and CRX Si’s so they were around the US back then. Bad Ass cars for the times, small light and tons of fun. Good to see Honda keeping that formula. Nice one take, keep it up!
Kerry LeClair this is not a small or light car.
Great review, got my Si for 22.5 loving it so far. Only thing I hate is the rev hang
Im glad people are sleeping on this car, they can keep vaping in their garbage wrx's. I owend a 16, the stock tune in that thing was shit, and that motor constantly pulls timing. you get like 1-2 good pulls, then the motor is heat soaked and just pulls timing. AWD with open diffs too. I put a cobb access port on it, made it a little better, but again still pulling tons of timing due to false knock readings. Got an STI, was much better, but rattled itself to pieces. Stereo was absolute shit etc. Subarus are all about that simplicity, which i get, but at some point those interiors just get old. Not to mention the weak rods in the FA, and the constant ringland failure in the STI. I love subaru as a brand, but they really short change the american consumer. Pretty crazy that a honda eco motor 1.5T comes with forged pistons and a 36-43k subaru sports car does not. Traded in my 17 STI for an 18 SI, and other than the AWD system, it was an UG all around. Dont miss my subarus one bit.
I have been a Toyota buyer for the last 20 years, because they just keep going and going. My current car is a 2006 Camry SE V6. At 130K, my car has never been to a mechanic until recently when it developed a minor power steering leak. My daughter is turning 18 soon and I will be turning the car over to her. I am in the market for a 2018 Camry SE, but recently saw the new Si, did some research, and last week test drove one. Man I can't believe that is a 1.5L! It has almost the same power has my 3.3L Camry SE, and it is pretty quick, the shifting is so smooth. It is about $4K less than the Camry SE and gets about the same MPG. At $22,300, you can't beat that price, I think I'm going to buy it!
good choice.
I didn't want to give up my driving soul and bought a 2020 Si Coupe at 55. First Si was a 1990 CRX at 25.
I have a 17 Civic Si, it's my 5th Honda definitely way, way better than my 2000 Si, couldn't stand that car. Shifting is a little plasticky but it did get a lot better after 10k. All Honda's should have perfect shifting, this does not. I drove this across country, it was an absolute 2,800 mile blast. You really have to pay attention to keep the speed under 85-90, this Si just wants to fly and there is plenty of power to do so. Fastest I ever got it up to was 124, pretty easy to get there too. Honestly it's hard for me to tell any difference in Sport mode, it ALWAYS feels like it's in Sport mode.
So yeah, driving this Si is a very good experience. It seems a more adult sporty car with a manual than a ricer for sure..that's good for old fogies like me but maybe not so good for guys in their 20's.
As far as the interior goes it's definitely driver centric, some of the material is hard to clean but the seats are the best..none of the other Civic's have as nice of seats cept' maybe the leather version. Infotainment isn't very good but all cars have crummy infotainment/audio systems and you can't replace this one with an aftermarket which really sucks. Of course you can add an amp and sub and it's badly needed in this car.
I do agree this is the best Civic ever with the possible truism that it's lost a little soul. The turbo is great but doesn't sound great like the VTEC's. It's not a big deal to me but it may be to enthusiasts. It's very quick, very smooth, very quiet and it looks closer to a sporty Accord than a Civic. Best seats ever and sails over most bumps in the road. The fact that like most Honda's this Si keeps it's resale value puts it over the top in the value category. The one and only glaring issue with this Si is that it doesn't come as a hatchback. If anyone has a Civic Sport Hatch and wants to swap for a month just let me know. I'd love to try one of those out for comparison!
"...you can't replace this one with an aftermarket "
Why? Because the AC/heating system integration?
If Honda would do something about the rev hang between shifts, I'd seriously consider one. It's terrible, I've test driven 2 or 3 over the last year or so and just couldn't get past that. I realize there are tunes, but they can void your warranty. Even better, how about the hatchback Si?
There are two features that I'd like added to that spec sheet: 1) a hatch and 2) black plastic corner panel delete. Regarding the gauges, Honda has done great, simple gauges for years that can't cost them much. Simple, readable, usable numbers and markings. Honda makes an active choice to sh*t up the gauge cluster in their Civics, unfortunately.
I'm not convinced that engine drone and wheeze is what I'd want to hear in a daily, but maybe that can be tuned out. I'd imagine that the power is plenty for a single driver on their daily commute. The fuel economy certainly seems attractive.
Happen to look at 2018 base VW GTI pricing the other day and the price point is essentially the same as the Si (dealerships are aggressively pricing the GTIs). The comparison is not 1:1 as the GTI is missing the LSD and adaptive suspension, but it has similar if not better power plant specs and the utility of a hatch.
Can TST get a hold of a base, MT GTI for a romp in the hills?
I keep hearing about these Earth Dream engines having problems with fuel mixing with the oil and diluting it. Also, Honda only sells them in the American market as it's a known issue and other countries don't want it. I'd go for an old Si until they figure out the issue.
This car is a fine balance between fun and comfortable, but my one big problem with it is it sounds so boring. And it doesn't sound much better with an exhaust. Great sounding engines and exhaust notes is a Major part of driving excitement. I mean a top of the line Tesla might be as fast as a Gt350 but anyone outside of San Francisco would pick a Gt350 to have fun in 100 times outta 100.
I didn’t know it uses the ctr control arms and rear sub frame.
As a person that drives a 2017 ktuned si, everything he's saying is so on point. Well done monotone
I had a 2008 Civic Si and the 8000 rpm redline was the bomb. It was the last great engine in an Si. Revving it out was the entire point. VTEC just kicked in yo!
You can turn the Honda Lane Watch camera on by pressing the button at the end of the turn signal stalk. you do NOT need to be using the turn signal to use the camera. - You NAILED this review! This is exactly why I have only bought and driven Honda's, specifically Si's, This car is an all-around amazing, fun daily driver! This is why I own this car! because of everything you said!
New host is great. Glad the series is sticking around. :)
We actually had the 1985 Honda Civic CRX SI in 1985 and the Honda Civic SI in 1986 in the U.S..
I have an EX-T with tune, intake, rear sway bar, and summer tires. Even though it's CVT and open diff with soft suspension, I can still push it surprisingly quick on twisty roads. I'm sure the Si with manual, LSD, adjustable shocks, plus tune and bolt-ons would be a riot to drive.
Your review makes me want this car even more now! Thanks!!
i have the coupe, and it was a wonderful buy. its a ton of fun on the back roads, it has a lot of spirit. I also drive it far from nicely, and i'm averaging 33mpg
Austin Clark I was thinking the coupe as well... Is it mandatory premium fuel?
recommended, not required. I've ran 91,89, and 87. I haven't had any knocking, noticeable lack of power, or noticeable decrease in MPG using 87. premium is recommended for maximum power and fuel economy, but it certainly isn't noticeable. i've gone back and forth trying to see if i can tell the difference, and i certainly can't.
Austin Clark I have the sedan. I’m only getting like 26 mpg. Any tips?
could be where you live also, i live in a wide open state and do a lot of 65mph driving. as of posting i'm averaging 33.8 over 3800 miles. i personally let it rev quite a bit, keeping it in the power zone of 2500+ rpm, short shifting and trying to continue accelerating below the power zone kills my gas mileage
GTI may not work quite as well 10 yrs down the road
GTI will blow this car out of the road.
I owned a 2007 SI and prefer the way it looked. This model looks better than the previous generation. The BIGGEST improvement of the newest SI is the gas mileage. It has about the same HP and torque as my 2007 but gets 38 or so on the highway rather than 28 (like the Type R!). Not sure if this requires hi-test gas, but mine did.
1984 VW rabbit gti, which sold in the states. the rabbit pretty much invented the monicker "hot hatch" in respects to Si, the prelude SE north American was fuel injected, but did not get the Si badge till 1985; since the car was pretty much the same, save some cosmetics many argue that the SE was misbadged for north America. hope all is well with matt, the DFCN loves smoking tire.
I like how his ADD will go off on underrated cars like the FiSt and the S13 but then a murdered out Evo X passed by and he doesnt bat an eye, hahha! Looking forward to more videos!
Coupe version looks a lot better from the rear
Nice review, good info, perfect length. Nice job
I drove one back to back with the new Type-R and I've owned or driven almost every gen of Si. I generally love them, but I really couldn't get into this one. It feels built well, comfortable down the road, easy to drive, it makes a great DD. What it has in quality it lost in it's character/rawness that I love about the Si line.
When you realize this is 10 grand less than a good gti.
when you realize its 10 times slower than a good gri
@@brucelee7283 Except that's not the point
@@brucelee7283 it's not even much slower xd, and I think this is cooler because Honda
@@tyler9703 when you realize you can get a low mileage 350z for 13k and smoke mustang 5.0 coyotes....while the civic struggles to keep up with fiestas.....
sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/ctd/d/escondido-2007-nissan-350z-roadster/7155420727.html
@@dragospahontu ua-cam.com/video/CpDVAnSRlOM/v-deo.html
To me, the civic si should be a lightweight two door hatchback, with a high reving 200+hp na vtec engine, a close ratio 6 speed manual transmission, and double wishbone suspension. No bells and whistles. Manual seats. Maybe a navigation system.
ziah Reid 100% agree.
ziah Reid you’re still living in 2003 bro. Times have changed.
i mean the original Si was just a sport injected trim of the regular civic hatch- a sporty daily driver, nothing more, nothing less
what you just described is an EK9, which frankly was and still isnt a good daily driver
I like that you added a bit about history of the Si models!
I really wish Matt didn't feel the need to add Zack to the One Takes. He's not particularly bad or annoying in any way, it's just that Matt and his style are why I fell in love with the One Takes in the first place. If I wanted to see some average car guy review a car in an less humorous and overall inferior way to Matt, I'd watch one of the thousands of channels on UA-cam with that exact formula...
You're review absolutely helped with any doubts I had about what I'll be buying for my next car. Thanks for taking the time to learn and explain both obvious and subtle differences between this SI and other cars in the Honda lineup.
did you buy it?
Enjoy your one takes Zack, keep them coming!
8th gen is still the best si. Boost a k20 with a relatively inexpensive kraftwerks supercharger with other supporting mods and 380 whp is very attainable. Plus 8500+ rpm is so much fun
That road looks amazing..
I need the si power but not the looks so I'm leaning more to a manual accord
NeATaNDtURdy 1.5??? Or the 2.0?
You’re right.. just right.. you said it. You confirmed that I.. and most would enjoy it. It’s just one of the best in its class ( bracket). I want one for me, my GF, and dog.
I wasn't sold on the new face, even though I could easily tell matt has been bored of doing these for a long time now. However this was a great review, I think I will stick around to see what this channel has to offer...
Stop explaining why your doing one take. Own it Zack!!
Jose Suarez-Martinez *you're
Dennis from Always Sunny!
Really cool car for a good price, just feel it's a little too big for a civic
Its easily bigger than an 80's accord. Which is fine they should just make the coupe a short wheel base car.
Agreed. I’m fine with it being this size, but it’s a family car, not a small sporty hatchback like it used to be. I just wish Honda would introduce another hot hatch below it to fill that niche.
There's a two door
I stood next to the coupe, and it's smaller than I had expected. The sedan is pretty big. I'd be very interested if they had an si hatchback.
Chile Mexia right spots the length or an Accord coupe then.........
Good review.
I test drove this car last year. It just didn't positively impress me. It is thrashy loud and doesn't accelerate in a way that matches the racket. I am a 6 time and current Honda owner, currently driving a V6 coupe. I've had 3 Si's of the Civic and CRX varieties. I was far more impressed with those cars when they were new than the current Si. Honda really should have installed the 2.0l version from the Accord. That would have been very impressive.
Love it, Thanks for taking over this series.
My favorite Civic, with a Tune this can be even more powerful.
Zach I love your understated low key humor because it reminds me of a hilarious guy I know : me.
Matt, I have to say I love your wide range of sponsor products hahaha they crack me up because they’re so different then everybody else’s 🤣
First half of the road is probably the best one that one take was taken on
I'm not going to strip mine out, I want the comforts for my daily drive. But I'm going to run it in autocross, stock for now, I'll see how high its limits are, then find its weaknesses and mod for that
Your review of the Si was so well done, I had to subscribe. Please continue to do these excellent videos👊👍
I wonder why they didnt put a hatch type trunk gate like the new Stinger. VW GTI could be in problems then
great review ! cool to see different roads than usual
In this video a man reads a Honda Civic Si sales brochure while driving the slowest One Take that's ever been filmed. You really drilled how capable it was while driving the speed limit for 20 minutes.
The volume control has a quick mute button, and also you can adjust the brightness of the HUD
my brother just got one - he loves it I don't think you give this SI enough credit - I have the civic sport hatch in a manual and I like the Si way better still good review though nice job
I've been watching this for long enough that hairloss products reached my radar... genetics are ruffless
The 2 door Coupe looks SO MUCH better...
True dat!
4:40 Zack, you need to FOCUS more on your hot hatches!
Just kidding bro, you're doing an awesome job and I love your one takes!
I've been in the market for a 2018 Honda Civic si and was wondering what type of fuel you put in it. I know the owner's manual states that the car should receive premium, but can it take regular? Furthermore, I think the car has a knock sensor that changes the ignition timing caused by the difference in the fuel quality. Still, I would like to eliminate knocking altogether to preserve the engine.
It's a great bang for your buck daily. I just have two gripes with it. The strange black plastic on the rear bumper looks unsightly, and the single center exhaust looks strange to me. I might still grow on me though. Overall nice review Zach! Keep up the great work.
Great suspension
Just as good as any BMW
BWAAA HA HA HA HA, sure
Zac, you the man! Keep doing what you do best my guy!
@TheSmokingTire
Hey Zach, enjoyed your review. 1 question. As a sporty daily driver with price not being a factor, would you choose the 2018 Civic SI or the 2018 Accord Sport 1.5t/2.0t manual?
I think the Civic Si is perfect where its at. I would most definitely get one if i had the money.
New zach vid woot woot
I've seen alot of videos on my car ,looking foreword to this one ,I wanted a special daily as my first new car, got a blue 20 absolutely love it
Great review Zack! keep up the good work.
Great job Zack. I appreciate a thorough run through from a car enthusiast's perspective on an attainable car that could bridge the gap between performance and practicality. And the calculator analogy was awesome.
*Zack
Sean Taylor thanks for the correction. I edited the original comment to say Zach instead of Matt (doh!). I'm actually psyched to have Zack taking over the day to day as much as I love Matt, as you can see by my efforts in this thread to encourage him despite the sh!t talkers.
Honestly, it's a great buy if you want an economy car thats still fun to drive
I want to like the new Si, but I just can't get into the looks of it. That's the one thing holding me back from seriously considering buying one. I still want to test drive one though.
Every car review should have pothole tests. I keep blowing tires in my Fiesta ST
Really good car nice review
I felt like I went a bit long, but thanks!
Outdoor Layne gtfo my comment with that bull shit.
Outdoor Layne I already have one 🤦♂️
I love the new Civic Si's and Sport Hatch's, but the god dang rev hang is my biggest complaint.
The 2011 si was the ultimate 8 gen
New accord with manual? or Civic Si?
8th gen si is still the best looking to me.