I absolutely fell for the Holosun pitch. I got the SCS 320. "Never need batteries!" I just always had to move my head and the pistol to really get that comfortable line using it. I went to a Cyelee Wolf 0 just as a fill in until I could get a Trijicon or even another Holosun to replace the one I just wasn't happy with. I am now a Cyelee believer. I plan to use the brand moving forward. There is no reason to pay more for what is arguably the same performance. I would say the Cyelee is easier to use. IMO and you don't really need to do those weird head movements to locate the dot. Ive told my friends about them. Great gifts too.
@mrorangeDenver I have some nice Holosun I like but have alot of Cyelee too that are running great , this one has over 10k on it now , still works great 👍
@realsharpknives7988 I like the 407k Gr very much ,have 1 myself, Holosun makes great optics and I own 6 but 2 of them have issues with buttons. I've never had a problem with any of my Cyelees. Which model did you go with?
Your opinion matters and it’s about what makes you happy and comfortable. It costs a lot to outfit all your pistols with red dots and sometimes a budget option just gets it done.
Have you tried any of the Canik MeCanik line of Red Dots? I have a M01 on a METE and I like it so far, but I don't have the round count on it yet to give it a thumbs up yet. They are priced competitively too. From one Joe to another, good informative video.
@unitfour3097 I haven't tried one, a couple friends have them and said they were decent but replaced them with Eps Carry , please keep me updated when you feel confident to give it a 👍 I'll keep my eye out for a deal on one 💪😎👍
You just answered a nagging question for me. I've never seen your channel before, but you have a way of expressing exactly how you feel that's very easy for me to understand. I'm a Holosun fan. We have 2 or 3 507C's and 2 407C's. We also run 2 407K and I just added my first 507K to the red dot collection. I looked very hard at Cyelee but when I get up to the $200 mark, I dig a little deeper and go Holosun. I've been very curious about the EPS, but just seeing it mounted to your gorgeous pistol tells me it's not for me. I was looking for a cheap entry into a dot for my TX-22 (using the Galloway plate in the dovetail for the rear sight) I was ready to jump on a Cyeleee. Just that day, PA came out with a "deals" and 12% off page and I ended up picking up the PA Micro reflex RD for 70 plus tax with a full lifetime warranty. The reviews are mostly very good and it's strictly for a range plinker that I use a ton. The biggest surprise in this video was hearing your praise for the Sig Romeo. The plastic made it a no go for me. Now with them being blown out everywhere, maybe I'll grab one. I totally agree on Crimson Trace dots. I've had zero success with them. You have some great looking heaters there my friend. Cheers and thanks for the great information. BTW, great shooting too.
@TheRange7 Thanks bud , I should do an update . My Romeo 0 died lol then came back to life lol , it was auto bright. I couldn't see my dot at the outdoor range. So I can't have that, lol
Definitely could be , I have astigmatism, but I wear glasses that correct that. I had the Cyelee Cat on my Echelon it was a green dot, and I really liked it. I don't know lol
Honestly the dot is crisper and clearer on my Cyelee Cat , than my EPS , the EPS is definitely smaller but with a gun this big doesn’t make a difference as far as carrying. I love my open emitter Holosuns, I think my issue is the closed emitter. thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Love holosun optics. Just all around good optic for the price. Not made in the USA but thats not a total deal breaker for me. Which atlas trigger is that? the medium flat
I haven't adjusted it since I got it , so I don't remember lol , but I'll try it when I get home from work, and I will get back to you. From memory, I think it is tactical more than audible, but I will check.
Whoa Curt, that's a ringing endorsement. My issue is when I get to the upper Cyelee stuff, the prices just aren't a bargain. I go for Holosun just because they've served us very well over time. I gotta try a dang Cyelee one of these days.
@@dnev8473 Cyelee will only honor the warranty if you've bought it from them, mine was from a 3rd party suppler. I threw it in the trash, and won't waste my money on them.
@@dnev8473 cyelee is not vortex or holosun in the warranty dept. Although on paper it may be just as good, I have found the above two companies far easier to deal with on warranty/mfg defects than cyelee(ymmv). I own 8 holosuns and have only had trouble with one of them over a 6 year period. I own 4 vortex and they quickly replaced one for me. Cyelee could learn from these two companies about customer service. I do like their products(I own 3 cyelee optics) but I prefer dealing with the two companies mentioned for customer service/warranty issues. I can call holosun or vortex and talk with a live person. I can't do that with cyelee. I have to submit a form and wait for their response, no phone number given on their website that I could find...bummer..
Cyelee Is Definitely putting out some great dots and way underrated.
Definitely underrated , I want to try the Bull 💪😎👍
I absolutely fell for the Holosun pitch. I got the SCS 320. "Never need batteries!" I just always had to move my head and the pistol to really get that comfortable line using it. I went to a Cyelee Wolf 0 just as a fill in until I could get a Trijicon or even another Holosun to replace the one I just wasn't happy with. I am now a Cyelee believer. I plan to use the brand moving forward. There is no reason to pay more for what is arguably the same performance. I would say the Cyelee is easier to use. IMO and you don't really need to do those weird head movements to locate the dot. Ive told my friends about them. Great gifts too.
@mrorangeDenver I have some nice Holosun I like but have alot of Cyelee too that are running great , this one has over 10k on it now , still works great 👍
I have Holosun 407 green dots on all of my pistols but after watching reviews on Cyelee optics I ordered one for a new Canik METE SF.
@realsharpknives7988 I like the 407k Gr very much ,have 1 myself, Holosun makes great optics and I own 6 but 2 of them have issues with buttons. I've never had a problem with any of my Cyelees. Which model did you go with?
@@Average_Joe_Arms CAT for now.
One comment where the buttons stopped working. Have you had any problems?
@realsharpknives7988 That was my 1st , and still going , I sold it on the Echelon to my buddy , he loves it.
Another great review bro. Good information. Love the new trigger 🤙
Thanks bro 🙏
Your opinion matters and it’s about what makes you happy and comfortable. It costs a lot to outfit all your pistols with red dots and sometimes a budget option just gets it done.
Thanks, brother 🙏
@@Average_Joe_Arms no prob.
Have you tried any of the Canik MeCanik line of Red Dots? I have a M01 on a METE and I like it so far, but I don't have the round count on it yet to give it a thumbs up yet. They are priced competitively too. From one Joe to another, good informative video.
@unitfour3097 I haven't tried one, a couple friends have them and said they were decent but replaced them with Eps Carry , please keep me updated when you feel confident to give it a 👍 I'll keep my eye out for a deal on one 💪😎👍
You just answered a nagging question for me. I've never seen your channel before, but you have a way of expressing exactly how you feel that's very easy for me to understand. I'm a Holosun fan. We have 2 or 3 507C's and 2 407C's. We also run 2 407K and I just added my first 507K to the red dot collection. I looked very hard at Cyelee but when I get up to the $200 mark, I dig a little deeper and go Holosun. I've been very curious about the EPS, but just seeing it mounted to your gorgeous pistol tells me it's not for me. I was looking for a cheap entry into a dot for my TX-22 (using the Galloway plate in the dovetail for the rear sight) I was ready to jump on a Cyeleee. Just that day, PA came out with a "deals" and 12% off page and I ended up picking up the PA Micro reflex RD for 70 plus tax with a full lifetime warranty. The reviews are mostly very good and it's strictly for a range plinker that I use a ton. The biggest surprise in this video was hearing your praise for the Sig Romeo. The plastic made it a no go for me. Now with them being blown out everywhere, maybe I'll grab one. I totally agree on Crimson Trace dots. I've had zero success with them. You have some great looking heaters there my friend. Cheers and thanks for the great information. BTW, great shooting too.
@TheRange7 Thanks bud , I should do an update . My Romeo 0 died lol then came back to life lol , it was auto bright. I couldn't see my dot at the outdoor range. So I can't have that, lol
@@Average_Joe_Arms LOL, Thanks man
It’s probably how your eyes see the color difference. I pick up green better. Red looks blurry to me
Definitely could be , I have astigmatism, but I wear glasses that correct that. I had the Cyelee Cat on my Echelon it was a green dot, and I really liked it. I don't know lol
@@Average_Joe_Arms I also have an astigmatism. Crazy how different colors or even options of the same color affect the eyes .
The circle dot is critical, does cylee have that ? Is cylee as small as eps carry ? Thx
Honestly the dot is crisper and clearer on my Cyelee Cat , than my EPS , the EPS is definitely smaller but with a gun this big doesn’t make a difference as far as carrying. I love my open emitter Holosuns, I think my issue is the closed emitter. thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@@Average_Joe_Arms im installing it on full size 1911 and don't want it wider than the slide, i thought only the eps carry would accomplish that .....
@walterwilliams268 the eps is definitely thinner but does still stick out a little 👍
Love holosun optics. Just all around good optic for the price. Not made in the USA but thats not a total deal breaker for me.
Which atlas trigger is that? the medium flat
Flat X-Line medium trigger, yeah unfortunately not alot of good electronics made in USA that's affordable. Thanks for watching 🙏
I like the cat pro on my Apollo 11 but cannot dial it in like my other optics. Hopefully on next range visit I'll figure it out.
I had that issue on my Romeo Zero, I took it off and reinstalled it , ended up working , and I think it was on a little crooked. Maybe 🤔
does your cyelee cat pro click when turning the dial for elevation/windage?
I haven't adjusted it since I got it , so I don't remember lol , but I'll try it when I get home from work, and I will get back to you. From memory, I think it is tactical more than audible, but I will check.
you try it out? thank you
@@JesusRM416 yes sorry it does have a soft click , you can feel it better though.
Cylee and Votatu are both very good optics I don't buy anything else 18 of them and counting.
Wow that’s a lot lol, I’ve never checked out the Votatu , I’ll have to give it a look , Thanks 🙏🏻
Whoa Curt, that's a ringing endorsement. My issue is when I get to the upper Cyelee stuff, the prices just aren't a bargain. I go for Holosun just because they've served us very well over time. I gotta try a dang Cyelee one of these days.
My Cyelee Cat's power/bright button stopped working. you get what you pay for
@MrPerry61 That sucks , Mine has over 8k rds on it now , still the same battery it came with 🤔
Warranty it out.
@@dnev8473 Cyelee will only honor the warranty if you've bought it from them, mine was from a 3rd party suppler. I threw it in the trash, and won't waste my money on them.
@@dnev8473 cyelee is not vortex or holosun in the warranty dept. Although on paper it may be just as good, I have found the above two companies far easier to deal with on warranty/mfg defects than cyelee(ymmv). I own 8 holosuns and have only had trouble with one of them over a 6 year period. I own 4 vortex and they quickly replaced one for me. Cyelee could learn from these two companies about customer service. I do like their products(I own 3 cyelee optics) but I prefer dealing with the two companies mentioned for customer service/warranty issues. I can call holosun or vortex and talk with a live person. I can't do that with cyelee. I have to submit a form and wait for their response, no phone number given on their website that I could find...bummer..
I put the 507k on my Apollo 11
I was going back and forth on 507 and EPS watching videos and reviews, maybe I should get the 507k 🤔
Nize
Thanks brother 🙏