An evening with Stephen Fry and Venki Ramakrishnan | The Royal Society
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Stephen Fry joins Nobel Prize-winning biologist Venki Ramakrishnan to discuss one of the most crucial topics in the modern world.
The very nature of science is to establish truth about the world around us, from groundbreaking new discoveries, like the Higgs boson, gravitational waves or the potential for life in the clouds of Venus, to issues with major social implications like climate change and biodiversity loss.
While the growth of the internet and social media makes it easier than ever before to obtain information, the free-for-all nature of the internet also makes it difficult for the average citizen to distinguish fact from fiction, truth from mistruth, and legitimate sources from fake news. The onslaught against evidence-based facts is a growing problem.
As an army of scientists continue to find themselves on the frontline of scientific discovery as they battle Covid-19, the role of scientific evidence and rational thought in an internet age of superstitions, rumours and pseudoscience has never been more apparent.
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❤ Stephen Fry has been a constant inspiration to my life ~ the world is evermore knowledgeable because of him. Thank you. 😊
I am unsure of why science communication has not become global. Brilliant conversation. Fry is such a treasure.
Pretty simple, because there still exist extremely oldfashioned scientists. You still see such persons on UA-cam, for example archeologists telling us that evolution is nonsense, because all animals were created the way we read in the King James Bible. Not millions of years ago, no, two weeks or so, before our Saviour was born in a stable. When such people run a university, what do you expect? Good thing is, they do not burn you alive, anymore, when you are a heredict.
Why are these conversations not shown on popular tv channels? It would be beneficial to the population.
Thank you for uploading. Even though I don’t understand everything they say, it does further my education (at age 66) to listen and re listen to intelligent conversations such as these.
Stephen Fry, in my opinion, ought have a huge role in the country’s education system. He is able to put complex concepts into ordinary language. A gem of a man.
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Glad you liked the talk :)
Stephen, the internet IS exactly everything you said you thought it would be. It can break down borders, it can dissolve differences, it's a university for everybody, a resource, a library, a museum, a theater, a concert hall, a public square. It is the most wonderful thing that humanity created. That's why I'm sitting here, listening to you. It also has it's dark and nasty corners, there's no denying it. But the beautiful side of it is also in there, and it will always be for anyone who chooses to engage with it over wasting their time searching for offensive things in the mud.
And maybe that is the story that has to be told more often to more people. A story that compels most people to come out of the mud and engage with the best side of the internet, because it is there.
An hour well spent. Wonderful conversation, a much needed one, thank you.
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More talks, more expert panels and more engagement. Also teaching everyone how scientific peer review works. Loved this. Thank you
Could have picked two more people who are intelligent! These two are really thick! I mean they can’t string more than two words to a sentence! What’s the world coming to! Two thick half wits! Oh dear! Oh dear!
@@kevinholly5517 I hope your comment is dripping with sarcasm.
In and amongst all the craziness right now this was wonderful to listen to while doing the housework….
Thank you for defending scientific method and critical thinking. We do not teach critical thinking skills in the U.S.A. anymore, and we are seeing the effects now.
Hahahahaha! I laugh at your comment but cry at the reality of it.
I'm ashamed to be an American these days.
I don't know if thats what we are seeing; we are seeing a racist backlash accelerated by narcissism but wide spread death of education?
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Don't be! Strive to improve the level of intelligence in the U.S.A. The rest of the world needs the richest nation to be a wise one too!
@@ripdbtpoo1441 😂😂😂Rich? Have you counted the homeless here? The hungry children? The foreign migrants breaking into the country? The empty food banks? The crime and violence?
Rich? Are you serious?
Terry Pratchett - 'A lie can run round the world before the truth has got its boots on.' People resent science monopolising wisdom, and will take every opportunity to declare that the common man is the equal of the scientist, and the interesting falsehood by its own nature will propagate at the expense of the dull truth.
This discussion seems to be far more relevant than they realized.
What a fabulous way to spend an hour 😁😁. Thank you!
So many words.
Fry is so talking Tom.
Fantastic meeting. But Ramakrishnan was interrupted much. Fry so talking Tom. Shouldn't be so.
From Bangladesh 🇧🇩.
Love for Ramakrishnan sir. You r my idol sir....
B-). It was, after all, presented as an interview.
"Talking Tom"?
A few chapters into the book "The Beginning of Infinity" will give you clarity about why they have immensely wrong perception of the scientific method.
Enlightening.
I spy copies of Troy in the mid-right of the shots of Stephen! Mine arrives today!!!
How does this have fewer views than a dancing frog?
Humanity...
14:20 for a lovely send up of Trump
My science place right now is sheer desperation, I've actually started to pray for Trump's disappearance. BTW I loved the part about the Dunning-Kruger effect, a.k.a. the pinnacle of clueless. And thank you so much for your discussion, I'm hoping we can get back to the scientific method and some critical thinking over here in America. The past 4 years have been hell.
UA-cam The Zeitgeist Movement Moving Forward to see how we can transition from a monetary system to a natural law resource based economy!
Putting the lab leak hypothesis in the basket of insane conspiracies may be a mistake I think.
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Just excellent thank you so much. We need more discussions like this to be aired, more informed critical thinking in context . Full of gems to widen knowledge and understanding of the issues around trust and evaluation of scientific findings and outcomes, I have a new booklist now :)
“Trust scientists more”? Like Michael Mann and Neil Ferguson ? Houston we have a problem 😇
Who fancies a game of quantum billiards? Newtonian billiards is so old-fashioned...
Skip to 2:00 for the beginning
Thank you. 💕I thought I had problem of video not playing 😕🙏
Salman Rushdie had mentioned that the good and the bad, the right and the wrong are existing today at the same platform and makes it difficult to discern the right from the wrong.
Fantastic and thought provoking, thank you Stephen Fry and Sir Venki
Stephen for King! OK,the first one was a disaster, but King Stephen ll would be a fabulous move. Mitchell for P.M. Dara as Minister for getting things done...
In the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right of 1843, Marx famously stated:
The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man - state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.
Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.
Criticism has plucked the imaginary flowers on the chain not in order that man shall continue to bear that chain without fantasy or consolation, but so that he shall throw off the chain and pluck the living flower. The criticism of religion disillusions man, so that he will think, act, and fashion his reality like a man who has discarded his illusions and regained his senses, so that he will move around himself as his own true Sun. Religion is only the illusory Sun which revolves around man as long as he does not revolve around himself.
I hate the word “belief” and “consensus” in these conversations.... no place for either. “Academia” is as vituperative and internecine as politics or religion, and getting worse.
Thank you both for talking so clearly on subjects we should all ponder.
If I may, I think to suggest my own ribosome learning came from noticing an ant which moved on a pair of false walking legs synapsing with its first left foreleg binding to its left antenna.I am M.L Arunkumar who gave in the UA-cam QPT talks connecting scientist and technology throughout the worldon september 20,2022. I persuade to give a hearing on the topic.M.L.Arunkumar talks on Mis-sense mutation of anty robots with a photo image of the missense mutation uploaded at the end of my talk to figure out in a way what 80S ribosomes of such mutatnts are doing to give an overall picture of premature terminating codon and anticodon pair.
Wonderful conversation. Thank you.
Venki (et al) I do not like the concept of non-scientist, can we be described as non-professional/amateur, as we humans all have science in our minds & lives, just fragmented & imperfect ;)
I am not an athlete but please do not describe me as a non-runner.
I'm glad Stephen that you signalled contempt for the uncertainty word, the speed of light needs the same treatment.
Unless we are prepared to discuss an Edward Bernaysian like revolution, I will remain silent on the topic of QAnon.
lol, now you are on the 'non-scientists' band wagon Stephen.......
I personally argue that embryonic science can be seen through out the animal kingdom.
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Extremely interesting and thought provoking conversation, thank you both.
Education is the answer, but not education as some Amuricans view it❤️❤️
Those who say "Well it's just a theory"!
Tell them theirs is "just a myth" 😂
Thank you very much gentlemen❤
Thanks for the conversation. I really enjoy it.
I would have thought, you found it Bohring :)
Thank you for this Venki and Stephen.
My key take-away: "logic without emotion doesn't work." Wisdom seems to require we understand our own visceral reactions and biases.
"the human body is the big reason"(Nietzsche)
@@hampig949 I have a feeling Nietzsche is right about that. ;)
Fantastic thank you 😀
A particular Science starts failing at extreme conditions. The simplest example being Ohm's Law at extreme conditions of temperature and pressure or very high voltage.
I remember the school days when I did not know the name of even C.V. Raman, only the works of scientists were part of the science textbooks and 'who has done what' was not there. But these days, the names of scientists of the last 400 years and beyond are everywhere.
The scientists say that 95 of the universe is dark matter and dark energy and we don't know what it is so why should we prioritize science over everything else ? ( just kidding 😁)
I adore Fry - but feel compelled to acknowledge that he doesn't give the scientist quite equal time to speak.
For their wages, lesser scientists should adhere to Stephen Fry.. may I suggest.
Well now, I wonder what the biggest POTUS ever thinks of this?
I adore Fr
Great talk and very timely. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you both
Such an important conversation
I think the answer to many of the ongoing concern around antie-scientific thinking comes in education and attitude. Firstly we must learn from the mistakes of religious education and indoctrination. Too much to early and all that is achieved is a hatred, resistence and suspicion. Instead allow children to develop their own sense of wonder in the world, delay academic education. And the delivery of formal science instruction until an essence of adult hood is there...secondly the attitude of the scientific community towards those who do not follow their thinking must change. We must come from a position of discovery,one of questioning. Often someone who is antie-vaxx or into herbal medicine is talking out of their beliefs not out of their thinking. So to call them quack's or the people they listen too as suedo science then we are insulting their beliefs. We must understand why they believe what they believe, then we can begin to form an approach which will combat that in education. But insults and name calling, which has become rife, will never win. I really enjoyed this conversation even though many of the points raised I am opposed to, but this conversation gives me more pause for thought than any celebrity scientists rant ever has. Thanks
Seemed like 5 minutes, an hour wow. Great chat
Can we hear from Venki please Stephen 😬
If you think he's bad here, check out his "dialogue" with Lawrence Krauss on the latter's podcast. Stephen consistently started answering the question before it was reasonably possible to be sure where it was going, let alone before Krauss had a chance to put any conditions or qualifications on an answer. It is still a great listen, but Stephen does himself and us a disservice by being so intellectually solipsistic when he's "up".
No doubt you're both right. The great Mr Fry (knighthood refused) is used to having his opinions solicited. Perhaps sometimes he does go on too long! His intentions are good, I am 100% convinced.
This is a truly inspiring talk! Every time I watch it, I can pick up something new. Thank you so very much indeed! I am using it as a reference point in the introduction of my thesis. Looking forward to seeing more videos like this.
They are both a bit thick though! Have they ever read a book between them? I would love to debate them both! There again wouldn’t want to embarrass them!
Love you both.
Eer; respct wise obviosly. Stephen do you think if you'd become as conversant in mathematics as you have in language you'd be a scientist
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Is the 'average' person less informed by more 'information'?
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Yes because people are lazy and choose information that does not inform, but entertains, titilates, enrages, pleases or excites.
Fry is the worst person they could have brought on this. I can't believe Royal Society is calling out tobacco and oil lobby using the consensus argument.