Vintage Kenner Star Wars Toys Won’t Be Worth Anything Or Will They?
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2023
- Today I'm going to discuss my thoughts on the future of vintage Star Wars toys and their value in the world?
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I’m looking forward to this,… And I don’t care if they retain their value or not… it’s a labor of love, not investment 😁👍
Bingo!
you and I will long gone before the great fall. It'll a happen around 2050
by then they'll probably be blobs of sticky degraded plastic
no dought,,,same for me;;;;but damn i would love to have all my star wars figure's and vehicle's mint in box because when you see the box it's like WOW!! I totally have a memory of this art/picture almost like a long forgotten friend* That's how i look at it.
I think the obsession with the "value" of a toy collection comes from the stigma that being an adult toy collector would bring back in the 1980s. If you didn't want to get ruthlessly mocked and bullied by 99% of the people you met, then you had to pretend that you were only buying these toys because they were "collector's items" that would be worth a lot of money someday. So I think that's just become a reflexive fallback for any collector from our generation when they are questioned about why they are still collecting toys.
My nephews were born in the late 1990s through early 2000s and the ones who do collect show almost no real interest in the vintage Kenner toys. When they do collect physical toys, it's either Lego or the 6" Black Series figures. There might be a novelty value with the vintage figures, but nothing that's going to make a new collector want to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on a single 5POA 3.75" action figure from the 70s.
So, yeah, treating these toys like a stock market investment is a bad idea, because a vast majority of the interest in vintage toy collecting will die out with Generation X.
Precisely how I feel about this. You collect what you like and if it’s worth something, great. Buying to sell down the road for big money seems utterly silly given the way people are drawn more and more to technology. Glad I grew up when I did.
True, it’s an ever decreasing circle with the mass of original fans still being alive..and the majority of advanced collectors are older and have disposable income to spend thousands on a single item along with a direct emotional connection to it.. none of which is a practical priority to a 20 year old in this day and age along with the world and everything in it being far more accessible than it once was back when the world was no bigger than your own neighbourhood.
We are now middle aged men with careers and real cash. We yearn for nostalgia and the toys that were thrown away when we moved houses as kids. This has driven the crazy prices and high demand. But guess what? When our generation dies out so will be the demand and the will be plenty of supply around. This has happened with Beatles and Elvis memorabilia recently. They will eventually become worth less.
Bingo. That’s my feeling.
I don't know about Elvis, but Beatles memorabilia is still fairly high.
Agreed. I recently turned 50 and my kids are in college, there’s something soothing to the inner child in me to collect this figures again, although I’m sticking to a thrifty rule of around $10 a figure and ok with repro weapons. My mother gave away all our Star Wars stuff and I never knew about it. Maybe I’m repairing that - regardless, it’s fun getting these again and yes, one day they’ll probably be worth nothing but for the fond memories of us that owned them.
Sad but true
I couldn’t disagree more. Elvis died and the Beetles stopped making albums. Star Wars, like Disney, is being discovered by new generations every day. And for all of these different ages, the original vintage Kenner collection is a status symbol. I have a collection. My 22 year old son has a collection. My 14 year old nephew just started his collection. New fans will keep interest high. It’s the same reason vintage Disney merchandise never goes down in value.
Vintage will always be just that....vintage. and if we're talking about "thoughts of the future"........it's vintage. This isn't juat for toys......the new gens will, and continue to explore the "vintage" aspect.....now.....and forever. It's not that hard
Nothing but love for vintage. Would be great to see it last into future generations.
NO!!! Over my dead body.... I will become one with the force and become a force ghost!! LOL. Very true statement.
Hahaha!
SOUND OFF, I was born 1964 in a dirt poor home proud of it ,taught me how to appreciate life and things I had or hav now. I was 13 when SW came out loved it then and still to this day. I enjoy my SW collection and every piece I add to it ,I’m 59 now and I’m very aware of my short coming and I’ve already accepted many yrs back that one day I’ll be stepping over that great after life threshold and what becomes of my collectibles don’t matter any more like they say u can’t take it with you ,so enjoy it while u can.
Well said.
I was born in a poor family too and my reason of collecting is not the value is the joy it gives me with toys I would dream with when seeing in tv that my parents couldn’t afford buying me even they always did the best to get me some of the toys,so to me Star Wars is more of a personal emotional value of my growing up.
Tyler here. I think there’s still some time left. The 90’s kids who grew up with the prequels and were reinvigorated by the Special Editions are still very much into collecting and will be for decades to come. We will keep Star Wars alive. As for the 20teens kids… Time will tell.
I think interest for SW will remain to do some degree but I wonder who will cherish or be interested in vintage, true vintage Star Wars.
You are one of the rare collectors who enjoys the hobby for what it is, bringing some joy to yourself and sharing your passion. There are those who think they are better collectors and would like to dictate how the rest of us collect. Personally, I do not have very many vintage figures as finances don't allow me to buy as much as I would like to own but the figures I have bring me my own joy. Please keep sharing your fabulous content and May the Force Be With You!
I enjoy collecting vintage Star Wars more than anything else. It brings back memories and always keeps the passion burning for what George Lucas & Kenner created. MTFBWY!
Those dolls werent made to last forever. I personally own several of them who are already slowly starting to melt even though they are not visible or exposed to sunlight. Any time a kid gets to see my stuff they go like "star wars? What is that? Old people stuff, ugly toys, don't you have any Minecraft stuff?"
That's sad but true.
Amen my friend! I could not have said it better myself! My father was a kid in the1940's and his passion was toy trains. His favorites were made by a company called " Mike's train house" or MTH. He passed away in 2019 and I inherited his train collection. I called hobby shops all across the country to see if anyone was interested in buying the collection. Every response I got was "Sorry, but we can't even sell the stuff we have because all the train collectors have everything they want and there are no new young train collectors". I know for a fact that my father paid about $50,000 out- of pocket for his collection. I ended up having to auction off the collection myself. I made $5000.00. That's all. And I'm lucky to have made that. BTW, MTH went out of business and closed their doors forever in 2020. Mark my words, LIONEL will be doing the same thing pretty soon. So everything you've said about collectors growing old and dieing off with no one to follow them, is totally true! Some day our stuff will be worthless. One man's treasure is another man's trash!
My condolences to you. Sorry to hear about your father. Toys are relevant as long as their is nostalgia in the hearts of collectors. If not, those toys will slip away and be forgotten. Some argue with me on this point and I of course could be wrong. But it seems unlikely. Treasure and enjoy them while you can.
Thanks man! Love your videos! Keep up the great work!
Took the words right out of my mouth. “Look at all these memories.”
:)
I love how you say "becoming one with the force". I imagine a passionate meateater telling a pig. "Don't worry Porky. You're becoming one with the force today" while drooling and looking excitingly at the pig.
LOL
When my time comes, i hope the next collector of all my toys enjoy them as much as me.
That’s a great way to look at it.
I grew up in the 70s and would buy a figure for 2 dollars every other week. I enjoyed playing with the figures and playsets as a child. Favorite playsets were the Imperial Attack Base and Cantina. I bought that for five bucks after a Christmas clearance. Loved trying to fish the stormtroopers gun out of the dewbacks or a taun-taun. This is what made the old SW toys fun. Also enjoyed pushing the buttons to make the tie fighter panels fly off. So so cool. :) Always losing Yoda's cane or snake and Princess Leia's gun since it was so skinny. Remember picking my teeth with Darth's light saber. Sorry for the gross memory on that, but those light sabers from the 78 figures made great tooth picks. Oh yeah, the memories. I had quite a collection but around 20 years ago, decided to get rid of some of that collection. I do have some regrets, but not on a value level, more of how it was like leaving part of my childhood go. Therefore I have started a new collection and maybe buy a figure or two per month pending if in my budget. I buy some now and leave them in the package. Not to make money or hoping to sell them, just cool to look at and relive some memories. I have them displayed in my hallway making it like a toy aisle. I only buy them at the second tier stores that sell them for like dirt cheap. Three to four bucks, I will say is fair in today's value. :)
I love your explanation on these toys. Had to subscribe. So true on what you say about a you and me thing when you talk about Kenner. I hate to say it too for I don't see them going up in value like the ones from 1978. Toys now cost like 16 for a figure. lol, I could not imagine a toy figure being 16 in 1978. Thank you for making this video. Nice to see others that have a collection for the enjoyment of the collection.
Welcome to the channel. I post new vids every Saturday morning. Hope you enjoy you collecting journey this time around :)
@@GQJedi Thank you for the welcome and I am glad I found your channel. I think if I take the collecting journey nice and slow will by my key. As I look at items, there are so many more items today than there were when I was a kid. I think too with mass production being easier and online with bargain stores may be a reason I see so much in circulation. I have thought about a few playsets and will say I do like the thought that some playsets give figures in them. I don't remember them doing this in the 70s or 80s. Again, you have amazing content. I look forward to viewing more of your videos and what you bring in the upcoming weeks.
I generally agree with you, but I think it will be a few decades from now, and then the demand will decline gradually but not drop off the cliff. There will always be some value to ones that are in good condition. I used to watch Antiques Roadshow a lot and there are plenty of antique toy collectors out there. Someday vintage will be antique. Anyway, I don't collect for investment, I collect for fun.
Glad you collect for the fun of it. You can never “lose”.
well put.
Awesome video as always! I totally agree with you. For me it was never about the value.
Collect for the joy of collecting!
All about the joy of collecting. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Glad you enjoyed the video, Mark!
I totally understand and agree with you. I have been collecting the Kenner Star wars toys from 1977. To the end of the line. I spent many years in garage sales. Flea market and toy shows. I'm married and we had Han solo's and princess. Cake center piece. A light saber groom entrance and lots of Star wars deco. Yes it is for our enjoying life. My wife and I still use Star wars deco for partying and the holidays. Yup I see when we pass Away that all our collection will probably be put in the garbage. Maybe some of my kids will try to sell the Kenner toys maybe keep them as my memory who knows. Great video sad but true. May the force be with you
Love your passion for it all. The Wedding sounds awesome. Rad that you two could do it like that. Very cool, Dude! Hopefully your kids will find that passion that you have. Appreciate you for tuning it to this video. Stay tuned for tomorrow (7/22) morning!
This definitely needed to be said. I see it now. I often look through ebay and Facebook market place. And what i see if the posts piling up. People get bored and move on. This stuff is already loosing its value. People are tired of greedy scalpers. Im like you, i just collect for the fun. If i lost them tomorrow i wouldn't feel financially ruined. Id probably be waste my money on something. Lol. Great video 👍
Collect these toys for whatever reason makes you happy. That's all that matters at the end of the day. Being happy.
Every bubble will burst. Enjoy your stuff while it is yours. No one will (probably) enjoy it more than you, so you are fulfilling that toy's ultimate purpose. Customize, play, whatever. When viewed as an investment, nobody wants to be the last guy buying. I remember hearing about pristine collections of model trains going for pennies on the dollar because the generation that cared about such things is passing away. I do believe that Star Wars is culturally significant enough that prime examples will be kept in a toy museum for a long time, but the vast majority will eventually wind up as crap nobody wants, especially as the product degrades over time.
To circle allllll the way back around, my own interest in collecting physical things is waning. I scratch my collecting itch by watching videos such as yours, viewing highly-detailed books, and collecting DIGITALLY via Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes. Even as a child of the mid-80s who grew up obsessed with SW, I can foresee the end of the hobby.
Also, still replying to myself LOL, but notice how as toys (etc.) get older, so do the buyers. As the buyers get older, their incomes go up. So, do the toys actually become more valuable over time, or do the prices rise due to (inflation and) the buying ability of those interested?
Eventually, all that bottoms out.
If you love vintage Kenner, then ultimately you are the end-user that the product was designed for.
I do think that that these toys will depreciate but only time will tell. Either way, I don't care enough to worry about it. I merely pointed out my thoughts on the subject.
@davidantonson9003 appreciate your thoughts
I agree with everything your saying.. Slowly but surely as our generation gets older & leaves this mortal coil or just moves on from all this, these toys will hit different. I'm in that demographic of age (born in 76') when all these wonderful toys & cartoons were coming out & I loved it but I too will eventually move on & hope the next person enjoys them for what they are. I don't collect for value (although I'm always cognecent of a certain items value) I treat them as a memory & art form.. I'm glad your calling it out for what it is: fun, nostalgia & in the moment. Have fun with it now.. 😊👌🏼
I think it's just the evolution of things. Of course some folks disagree with immensely. I guess only time will tell. But in the meantime, I'm just going to enjoy what I have for what it is. Exactly as you stated.
Babe Ruth stopped playing baseball almost 90 years ago. Yet, collectors still feverishly chase his memorabilia without having any nostalgic attachment. Star Wars, and these toys, aren’t simply a childhood memory, they’re a cultural icon, a piece of history, much like very old baseball cards. Maybe the pricing will diminish some on these toys, but I highly doubt the price will go to $0 simply because future generations didn’t grow up with them.
Only time will tell. Ultimately it's a discussion. Interesting to see what will happen. Either way, I'm keeping my Kenner.
Golden age comics retain and continue to go up in price for the most part. And a lot of people involved making them have died much have the kids who have read them. Superman Batman Spiderman and Star Wars are brands much like Coke and McDonald's vintage might fluctuate here and there but the condition of the toys are becoming tougher to get. Even thou yes the market for this may shrink i think the demand will be healthy just like old certain baseball cards
Baseball is still played and comics are still printed, I still have most of my comics even though I'm 56 but I also stopped caring about star wars 15 years ago. The interest in star wars action figures is limited too many were made and the generation that cares is aging
The kids now live in a throwaway society. My grandkids have broken and thrown away 10 more toys than I ever had. Although my kids and grandkids know how much I love them, they just don't have it in them to carry it on. My father was very nostalgic and shaired so much with me about the older toys and things that I, too, now appreciate even the toys of his time. I collect old bb guns too. The value goes up and down all the time, but as time goes by, the people that actually had them are dieing off. That part 9f the market dies off too. Leaving only the few of us to care fir them. What wants was valuable, now just a old toy. Little valuable. You are right. None of this is a long turm investment.
Collect for the sake of the enjoyment. Memories of good times. Anything else is a fool's errand with a shelf life at best.
I think you are very correct about the slow decline of material possessions. I guess some of this is a good thing as we probably need to make less stuff, but I actually feel sorry for young people that they never used their imagination to live adventures. The movies (Star Wars, Star Trek, etc) were great but it was the personal adventures that me and my sister + friends had creating our own memories....
Spot on. Playing and using your imagination was everything back in the day. Glad I could live in that era.
"He who dies with the most toys, wins."
-80s Proverb
Ancient Proverb! So true! LOL
Great video man, appreciate you sharing. Yeah, to be sure, we are just custodians of some pretty awesome Star wars stuff. As you said, enjoy them, and know, long after we're gone, someone, will be enjoying them decades from now.......May the force be with you.
Nicely put, man.
I was 7 years old when Star Wars came out. I remember seeing them on display at Kmart and even though we did not have much money I managed to fill up my Darth Vader case by the time ROTJ came out.
Great time to be a child! Nothing better than collecting Star Wars figures :)
Very wise words. When our generation dies, the toys we grew up with will decrease in value. Adults that didn’t grow up with Kenner will not value them like we did. There’ll be no childhood connection.
Very much how I think things will go.
That's what I used to think but seeing young Luke Skywalker at the end of the mandalorian made me think maybe not
There only valuable as long as there is a market for them. I suspect in another 20 years or so when all the original Star Wars fans are no longer interested in them and all the speculators have flooded the market trying to off load them their values going to drop through the floor.
FYI, Analog Toys actually did a good video highlighting this.
Right on. I don’t watch other content creators to be honest. But Tony runs a great channel. I’m sure his video was legit.
Love star wars toys! I don't buy for value either. These toys aren't rare they're popular that's why people want them and they have value , they made hundreds of thousands of these toys. Great thought piece.
Millions of figures. Just crazy the amount that’s floating around the world.
OH MAN YOUR MAKING ME FEEL OLD I HAD THE BEST TIME WITH THESE I WILL LOVE THEM TILL THE DAY I DIE :)
You're only as old as you feel, as the saying goes. Enjoy your toys :)
I don’t think the bottom is going to ever fall out of the vintage market but it will have to self rationalise as it becomes a decreasing pool of original fans over the next few decades. Right now we’re in peak evolution… a high number of people with direct emotional connection to the OT in their 40’s-50’s-60’s.. now in a position to have the disposable income required to keep the market afloat.
Also think because of the availability of so much high quality product now such as The Vintage Collection etc that many will move onto becoming vintage era collectors after a few years of collecting, it’ll become a smaller market as times goes by which may be a good thing if the reduced prices of vintage product places it in the hands of those that will truly appreciate and preserve it.
I do wonder if the Retro Collection and Vintage Collection fans will slowly move over to Kenner. But honestly I think Kenner will remain a market for the fans who grew up with them. Going to be interesting to see what happens either way.
It’s interesting!! Value is literally determined by eBay sold lists and MOST IMPORTANTLY, collectors value. I can pay $10 for a figure and it’s only worth that amount, but to me it’s priceless. I collect for a reason. My collection is priceless to me and that’s all that counts.
I think you have the right attitude. Good on ya!
My sentiments exactly! I don't collect to turn around and flip them for a profit. Like you said, they are toys. For me the nostalgia and love of the OT is why I collect.
Amen to that!
This is a beautiful video. Speaking as someone trying to collect a full set of these right now despite the price ... The value of them is almost certainly going to plumit. I'm collecting because I enjoy them, they bring back great memories.
But when we are old or when we die, they are the next china plates and train sets. They won't be worth anything to anyone but us. We need to enjoy it while we can, like all things in life.
And that's ok with me.
Thanks, Sir. I'm glad to hear that it resonated with you. Enjoy the toys while you can for as long as you can. Enjoy the hobby. Enjoy your life. That's it.
I just saw this. I love your philosophy on this.
Just sharing my honest feelings.
As indiana jones says,these belong in a museum lol
I try and treat these pieces as museum collection items simply because I like having as close to mint toys as possible. Personally I’d rather look at a c9 than a c4 action figure. But that’s just me.
I was born in late 1968, so I was a 9 year old when SW changed the world. I had a lot of the toys when I was a kid but my family was middle class and could only afford so much. I started buying them again about 10 years ago. I can’t tell you how many came from a child selling their deceased parent’s collection. I see them as an emotional investment and the joy they bring me (and my kids) seeing them again. I have a large Fett that’s 99% complete. Have you seen the price of Wookiee braids these days???? Things have gotten crazy but the reality is that their value will decrease as our generation dies out.
I wrote this in the middle of the video - I basically said everything you did! Haha!
A fact that we will all face. Unless we’re wrong.
@@GQJedi Just after I posted this a set of Wookiee braids popped up on eBay and I plunked down a ridiculous amount!
I was born in 66 I was 10 when Star Wars came out. I definitely was there from the beginning. 😊
I have a complete Fett 12noon with wookie braids, didn’t realise they were sought after. How much do they actually sell for?
"Action figure" toys will fade out like so many others--they stop being mass produced/purchased and become a niche collector's hobby. Like baseball cards, comic books, and model trains. As GQ Jedi says, the kids of today have their own obsessions to revisit when they get older. How many of us here today are obsessed with Tonka trucks? It is just the way of things. SO GET'EM OUT, PLAY WITH THEM, PUT SOME *WEAR* ON THOSE TOYS! You are not just some caretaker for future fans, your man-cave isn't just a warehouse for tomorrow. It's YOURS, for YOU to enjoy--today!
Well stated.
"Caretaker for future fans".....wow, that resonates deeply...
Very on point today, GQ!
I have seen similar discussions by Toy Polloi and others, regarding what folks will do with their stuff on their passing, as well as the possible degradation of the toy materials over time. This particular time will most likely be the peak for Kenner Star Wars before it goes down like a roller coaster. Once we're all gone, I wouldn't be surprised if the stuff went for 1985 clearance prices, if even that much.
And for the most part, I must agree that modern kids in general will likely have little interest in Kenner Star Wars. Though with that said, when I picked up a Bespin Luke, R5-D4 and Stormtrooper at a flea market, my nephew did regard them with some curiosity, and asked me questions about them. I was only too happy to wax nostalgic for that moment! *^_^*
Teach the next generation. Amen!
Thought provoking video matey, thank you. I'm starting to let go of some of my few remaining carded figures (bought in the 90s/00s), will keep my own loose ones though. My two kids show a passing interest in SW figs; mainly to humour me.
I'm just saying it like it is.s Cool that your kids show any interest whatsoever!
There will always be collectors for all sorts of things. People will collect things even though they didn't live in the era for example original gi joes, old baseball cards, old movie posters, stuff created before many of our lifetimes still have great value. Value is transgenerational, just because one didn't live the exact moment in time when it was made doesn't mean the value will disappear.
I definitely think the value will go down. We will just have to wait and see. I’m just glad I don’t collect for the monetary value like so many folks do. Fools errand.
@@GQJedi My collection is for pure joy as well 😊. May the force be with you.
GQ. I agree. Star wars was magic then. Imagination was instilled in us as children. The likeness of the actors was not accurate but Imagination took care of that 4 us. And yes i collect 4 memories n joy alone. I dont think the value is there any more especially they remade some of these again. Why because these figures are magic at least 2 us. Maybe thats why we have a Retro line. Because the "old ways" are The Way! Keep making your vids. GQ all the way!
Star Wars is magic. And Kenner represents that magic. If you know, you know. Be glad that you do and enjoy it however you can for as long as you can.
I'm just a big kid too. I only buy original Kenner because I have no idea what happened to all my original stuff. In no way investments, it's only investments in making me feel 7 years old again.
Amen to that!
This is I love the retro collection, cheaper versions of what I want
I get that, bud.
@@GQJedi thing's rich people say. JK :)
Great thoughts and comments. I’m okay with the value decreasing. I’m hoping the prices come down so I can finish off the entire collection. I’ve already spent thousands in the past four months on these toys, and no regrets. I’ll just make sure it’s outlined in my will that they bury me with my collection because it brought me joy.
Collect because you genuinely love the hobby. That way you can never “lose”.
That’s why I don’t mind repro’s or customs that other SW collectors get so upset about hell it’s as if like their going to live forever RIGHT. I did at first but slowly I realized that it was a form of preservation even if it is a knock off. We buy knock offs and customs because it gives us the collector pleasure. Superman been around almost 100 yrs now and he’s not yet forgotten SO who’s to say SW won’t be. A quote from Planet of the Apes “Only the Future can tell”
Yes. Only time will tell. We’ll see.
Hey Stan Solos creation from guess are now going through the roof. And rightly so. His brand ain’t no knockoff really. It’s his brand.
@@darthwizzywizard hey I didn’t mention his name bun hole, I hav great respect for his work so F off
You are so right, it is the digital age and it is souless. The younger generations have been willingly enslaved to big tech and true creativity and wonder has been compromised because of it.
That is well said. Wish it weren't so, friend.
I buy more things out of fomo knowing as soon as it leaves the pegs or a year later its gonna cost me double to add it in after the fact
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Somebody may have touched on this already, but what are the values of 60s Joes? 12 inch. I think they are still very high. I think Star Wars carder figures will stay high in value because 1. They are the original figures and 2. Star Wars will remain very popular for a very long time. I mean after we are nearly 50 years since the first movie was released. I collect because I grew up with the originals, not because I want to make a living or screw someone else.
I don't collect Joes or know anything about them. Sorry I can't answer that question for you.
As depressing as this is, it’s nothing I’ve not thought myself recently. 😬
I get it. It’s a possibility reality.
I only use the value of things to justify my collecting to non-collectors. I mostly collect comics, and I’ll never sell. I’ve thought of this before, when all the old guys die, their comics are going to flood the market, and I imagine prices will crash. I just wish I could outlive them all so I could get some great comics cheap! I collect for love and fun.
Pretty much how I feel about Star Wars. There is already so much in the market but there will be many more toys coming in the near future.
I refuse to collect for value. I can temper getting these as a kid, at the store. The modern/current figures are already going for more than the true vintage figures. I find crazy that people pay $150+ for a plastic Leia blaster. I collect to remember my childhood, not to resell.
I agree ☝️!
Love these old Kenner SW action figures. I'm keeping what I own until I die. They can degrade and rot with me. 🤣
Love this !
Same!
Completely agree with GQ, I'l nearly 50 now, and one of the younger original fans. I have seen lots of collectors markets colapse, such as Tonker cars, train sets, ceramics etc. These things are only hold value whilst there are people slive still interested. I am looking forward to getting hold of a Blue Snaggletooth just to be able to hold one, but it won't be the end of my world if I don't. My son is 9 and plays with vintage Transforners, but only about once a month. The rest of the time he is on his tablet like his friends.
Glad to be alive now to enjoy such an memorable era in time. To experience it in all mediums.
Great video. I “play with” all my Star Wars figures. It seems odd to me to buy this stuff and never remove it from the packaging.
Right?! You gotta take it out and have it in your hands. They are TOYS.
I was given four Star Wars figures from a friend. I ended up getting a Luke telescopic saber. I don't plan on selling them. You're right about it becoming no value in the future.
Collect for the memories not the value and then you can never go wrong.
My daughter is 6 and loves starwars (the original ones ) watches them repeatedly,,its funny she doesnt like any of the others,i can see why with no influence from me ..i do have some 12 inch figures from along time ago from the original films and she adores them ,im thinking of collecting the rest for her
Love to hear it. Your daughter has great taste:) “Pass on what you have learned.”
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Just my 2 cents.
the thing is with me is they only give me a buzz now when they are i the packaging and its nothing to do with value at all its about the way i felt as 5 year old looking at rows of different figures with the photos on the card for the first time ever and just being seriously happy.
Hey bro, MOCs or Loose. Makes no difference. Enjoy and experience what you can from these toys. Soak it all up. I support that all day long.
It's gonna be real interesting to see over the next 20 years what will happen with this hobby - I agree kids don't want physical media anymore. Yes they can sell off their inherited collections, but the market for them will slowly shrink.
That’s my feeling about it.
I agree. At some point they will lose value. I myself can't afford to by old Kenner so I rely on the retro collection or very occasionally a kennerfigure would come up that I can afford. Collecting brings back so many memories from when I was a kid.
If you put a kenner/palitoy stormtrooper figure in front of a kid these days he wouldn't know what to do with it. He be looking for the button to switch it on.
Pretty accurate, Dave. Kids don't even know what they're missing.
Maybe. Whatever your opinion of Hasbro, the popularity of the Retro Collection might say otherwise. Plenty of those collectors were born well after Kenner bit the dust. Entropy will take the toys, but maybe the interest won't go so quietly into that good night.
I thought it was mostly older collectors buying the retro collection. Most younger collectors I know of seem to like the black series or vintage collection.
@zed0002 Yes, older collectors, but also older generation rediscovering their childhood and just getting into hobby, as well as younger people -- all drawn in by retro collection 🤷 I'm sure there's a psychological component but I was just as surprised, since younger people consume pop culture a little differently than 77-85 kids. Then again, younger people are also part of the LP craze... 🤷
Let’s hope not. Only time will tell.
If that was the case,the Retro Collection stuff for The Mandalorian and Obi-Wan series would not be clogging the shelves.
@johnwyblejr6460 Making the rounds in my area of three Targets and four Walmarts - I haven't seen rero collection clogging the shelves... just some of the 'Obi Wan' series and a skiff Lando or two. I see more black series and vintage collection peg warming.
No way will I ever be buying MOC figures and boxed toys. I buy loose examples. Thankfully I got most of my stuff before Disney.
The tactile age, the age of imagination has been gone for nearly 3 decades. An age of the big box toy store, it was dying 3 decades ago, all the good ips began dying once the 90s hit, all the good things. I think the Xers are the last large collecting generation for the period of our nostalgia. We have a very small minority of the current 3 younger generations we have instilled the same interest in the old things. It's all 6 inch fully 30+ to 60+ points of articulation now. Kids look at 3 quarters and shrug, they probably look at the old 12 inch and laugh. If a property cannot retain relevance it will fade, even the generation of its nostalgia fades away. The loss of available product over time will lead to rarity and I think that will balance out value with very niche collectors. Of course in 10 years we could reach self-cleaning 3D multi plastic/resin printers and we just as easily say make me a mug as we can to A.I. print me Wave one of the '77 SW 3 quarter scale releases, and in an evening you have snapped and screwed together an indistinguishable army of troops. I think we have a good 20 to 40 years left to enjoy it, and maybe even feel joy leaving it in the hands of another who will get to enjoy it for decades more. After that I wouldn't worry, that's the problem of the hands of whom I leave them in.
I appreciate your thoughts. And yes, ultimately, it is not our problem once our collection leaves our hands. I certainly don’t worry about that now. Merely pondered and offering up my thoughts about a possible outcome.
So long as the movies are remembered for their glory, which they will be until our civilisation collapses, high grade MOCs will always be valuable and desirable imo.
“High grade” MOCS. That’s what you said. I’m talking about these toys in general. Will be interesting to see what happens. Personally I think people are foolish to spend thousands on toys when Kenner manufactured millions of during their run. There really isn’t a shortage. They keep being “found”. Lol. But it all boils down to what someone is willing to pay.
@@GQJedi You are probably right about the loose stuff losing its value in years to come, but these lil loose figures, somewhat like yourself are genuinely easy on the eye and just nice to look at lol...People will always pay for nice looking things, and the condition will always dictate the price. Thanks for the reply and your work👍
i was born 1975 ,just got right in to it
The Sweet Spot! Alright :)
I hope you're right concerning the price of these pieces going down....that way I can afford them.
I hear you.
Nope 👎. These will be worth millions in heaven 😂😂😂😂😂. Great chat. I agree completely. Our Gen is dying off fast too.
Disney blew it not releasing the original theatrical versions in the theaters on mass and DVD/blue Ray as well. Vinyl records is trending again. That could have bought another 25 to 30 years. But at this rate I doubt it. A lot of it too is the parents mostly, they don’t introduce the IP’s to their kids, and most importantly the toys as well. It’s still around but not nearly as it use to be. You would be surprised though by the younger Gen. When shown the original films in whatever IP say Mad Max for example, I’ve seen the reaction,and they gravitate to the older films. But it’s dying out.
Enjoy for yourself. 😊
It's a sad time. Truly. The old ways dying off. It is what it is and WE do have to enjoy it however we can.
Yes because once the generation dies out they will go from niche Star Wars toys to legendary pop culture relics. 1977 darth vader in box will never be worth a few hundred bucks in 20 years. That mofo and others like yoda will be worth 1000s. Same with original transformers, lego, etc
Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themself. Pokémon was only big for 90s kids but those cards will always be worth something because it breaks out to just iconic pop culture, not just niche series.
Your logic makes sense. But Kenner made millions of each figure. More and more are unearthed all the time. I see it on many Facebook groups and videos. I honestly don't believe they will reach the heights you are suggesting but if I'm wrong, great. If not, it really doesn't matter. I don't buy these toys for the monetary value that they hold now or may hold in the future. I think people that do are kidding themselves hoping to get rich later in life.
I agree with the GQ
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Wel Said man. Colletions is more ore less a generation x thing nothing lasts.
Bingo.
Most people don't remember what they played with before star wars I do I had Twelve inch g I joe with the Kung Fu grip. Big Jim's Wolf pack figures Evil Kenevile Wind up motorcycle and figure and my fonzie figure from happy days
Toys hold memories!
@@GQJedi Thank you brother
I would love to be able to afford 50’s and older baseball cards. Star Wars is an odd case. Disney is keeping it going. If Disney shelf’s it, prices probably plummet. That said, will that happen? Is Darth Vader as timeless as Mickey Mouse? Most of our generation has 30 to 40 years left at minimum.
30 to 40 years minimum? That's good to know!
Wishful thinking but I hope you’re right.
In total agreement, times are changing very quickly, younger generations just are not interested in the vintage kenner stuff & other vintage toy lines… & why would they, the technology they have been brought upon, they have no interest in them as sad as it is
Exactly, Sir.
The value will remain high for vintage Star Wars. People keep equating vintage Star Wars with model trains from the 50’s or Beetles albums or things that were popular for a brief time. Star Wars has been popular in waves across generations. My generation is into vintage Star Wars because it is what we played with as kids. My son’s generation, now in their early 20’s, grew up with the Prequels and Clone Wars. They collect vintage Star Wars as a status symbol. It is like how new Disney fans still collect Disney memorabilia from the 1920’s and up. Those items have retained their value as a result.
With Star Wars, it helps that there is a finite number of figures to collect from the original line. So a new collector can drop a few grand and get the whole collection.
Only time will tell. Kenner made millions of these figures. They are easily found. Nothing rare about them.
@@GQJedi Except that many have been damaged over the years. Many accessories have been lost. And many have been sealed away in grading cases. So the number of loose complete figures out in the wild is rapidly shrinking. I have been collecting my whole life and it is getting almost impossible to find them at yard sales or flea markets.
Everything is mostly online nowadays. People use the system that is readily available to them. Not arguing with you whatsoever. Just saying that these toys are easily found if you search for them online.
If there were no new movies and shows showing Star Wars, then I would agree. But star wars, transformers, gi joe, thundercats, tnmnt, and MOTU are pop culture. Trains and big sss joes are boomer shit that had no affect on pop culture. These toys have culture and huge following among zoomers right now in the Americas.
So no … don’t compare Japanese’s and pop culture from the 80s and 90s dying out. Like Hip-Hop, it’s here to stay imo. My son is 6 and daughter 8 love the vintage MOTU and Star Wars figures.
This is not a generation thing. Car collecting is bananas right now. Especially on young kids. Collecting 90s Japanese’s cars. Just think about that.
Like I said, 80s and 90s toys are culture. Pop culture … they will not die out. 💯
Only time will tell. Kenner made millions and millions of figure. More being unearthed and sold each month. See it all the time in online groups and forums. Either way, I don’t collect for the monetary value. Foolish endeavor.
I think the boxed sealed moc will remain valuable, but the loose items will drop slightly its all about condition. Yes they were mass produced but its kinda hard to find good quality sw thats were the value will stay strong i believe.But if tere making sw for the next 30yrs I can't see the value drop to much . Gijoe 12inch fogures from 1969 are older then sw still remains very valuable. You could really say it about any 70s 80s toys from bmx to boxed consoles to toys all valuable especially in good condition. I don't see the price falling drastically anytime soon but like you I could be wrong . Love the show and I respect your honesty 👏
I'm just happy that I don't collect for the monetary value or I like so many on here who have commented, might stress. LOL. Appreciate your support for the channel, Sir!
Problem with the MOC’s is they will peel off the card over the next decades or so. It’s rapidly becoming more common. Even bubble support might not make a difference 😊
I must say I don't collect for the value, but to be honest, they will not just fall off a hill regarding value. Even if a bubble lifts, it's still valuable
If these toys get forgotten and of no value to the younger generation then it is OUR FAULT!! It is our job to teach the younger generation the value of playtime and toys. I see parents take the lazy way out everyday and hand their 7 year old their phone!! Stop It!!! Put a couple figures in your pocket, hand them those instead!! Pass On What You Have Learned!!!!
There are loads of cheap good Kenner figures out there. I see them in the $2 and $5 bins at toy shows all the time.
I agree. Less technology and more “hands on” experiences with the outside world. Couldn’t agree more with what you’ve said.
MOC and things in sealed boxes will retain its value for a long long time. Everything else will be worthless
What precedent do we have for this outcome? I don't follow other toy lines at all.
Me either. I’m merely speaking on my personal feelings about these toys. I don’t collect other lines. This is all a feeling and an educated guess on my part.
@@GQJedi yeah, that's prob the best we can do :) But I think there will be a lot of disappointed collectors who view this as an investment. I kept my star wars at my parent's house for 20 years, and didn't bring them home until covid, and then displayed them shortly after that. So much happier seeing them everyday now than having them sit in a closet.
YES! for sure man i totally understand. I grew up with these toy's. Just sayin' my thought's on that; I think the die hard star wars fan's and mostly people that were not around when the toy's came out, will look for the un-played toy's to collect because they are amazing part of the movie/ toy history....So the value of those toy's will sustain. that's all. may the force be with you.
Not really. If they keep having these finds of carded figures. How many was in that recent find,400?
It's a fools errand to try and collect for monetary value.. I'm totally right there with you, even if we are a generation unto ourselves, there's nothing like collecting for the JOY and LOVE of the hobby, the past and also our personal nostalgia!
Thanks for reenforcing the idea that our love of Kenner toys will never leave us, no matter what the value of these toys will be in the end... they are priceless to people like us!!!!!
Priceless. Exactly, my good man.
It’s Michael with better hair!!
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So why dont you sell me your whole collection now for peanuts? Lets make a deal. 😂
Guessing you're completely joking because I clearly stated I DON'T collect these toys for their monetary value. No deals being made here.
@@GQJedi yes I was definitely joking.
I'm 52.. Star Wars is bigger or as big as it was in the 70s and 80s.. there will always be a market for these toys as long as there are new movies, series, and shows
I don't think it's a question of whether there will be a market, but how big that market will be for the original Kenner line in the future.
A market for Star Wars yes. But an interest for KENNER vintage toys, that remains to be seen.
@@GQJedi exactly. The most likely ones to take up collecting vintage star wars figures are the kids of current collectors. If the kids are selling them off when they inherit them, which may be the case in most situations, that is a fair indication in my book
we are ageing out my friends. truth
Yessir.
Jesus man I'm only 50. You're obviously in your 40's. We're not all dying at 60. That's like 40-50 more years of just the people who were around when the movies came out. Everyone who watched Babe Ruth play is dead, yet his stuff keeps on selling. Greatness retains value. The vintage Kenner line isn't going anywhere. Ever. There will always be a lot of interest. It's not all gloom and doom.
Not sure how you got "gloom and doom" out of this video. I merely stated that I think the Kenner line will not retain it's value in the decades to come. It's just an opinion. Either way, it matters not. I don't collect for the value. But I am curious to see what happens. Bottom line, enjoy your collections. Like I have been saying since I started this channel.
price / worth of Kenner 1970s 1980s figures won't dropped value anytime soon ;)
Only time will tell.
Well in that case you should get ahead of the curve and send me your Star Wars collection before it's worthless 😎
Trying to laugh at this comment but I can’t. My collection holds more personal value to me than monetary. Could care a less if it became “worthless.”
God daamn, i gotta wait 11 hours.
Patience, young Jedi.
@@GQJedinotifications on :D
In the end there are only so many, especially carded. And they’re only remaking the original figures. So yea they will be worth more if they’re carded.
MOCs will always be worth more than any loose figure.