Thank you so much! So you know, i will be uploading an updated video with some new info regarding embellishments and some small rotational changes. Will also talk a little about 2-4set :)
Im new to WW and all the guides always say let FoF run and to not stop it. What is the benefit of clipping it during serenty and how quickly should you clip it?
Because u have a talents that extends serenity when you use a chispender ability, so you want to use as many abilities as possible in that window. Clip is ASAP if RSK is up, let maybe 2-3 ticks go off if u dont have RSK up
Thanks for the guide! Just got my 4pc, not sure about you, but does this build + rotation still work 4p? My ST damage is decent, working on my AOE. Also what's your opinion on Bomb Dispenser trinket vs Irideus Fragment for m+? I have both + i got Becon to the beyond in my vault!
Hey, when you would use the Beacon Trinket? I dont like it because its a 2.5min cd and its a channel... but it deals to much damage. I guess we use it after the first Faelinestomp for the extra dmg so its on cooldown before we start blasting with Xuen/Serenity .
Ye good speculations! I havent got it yet but probably before you use other CDs, to get it on cooldown ASAP, also try to hit as many targets as possible obviously
@@aspiceman3450 No No I get that, but are the boots classed as an Embellishment, as I have Chest and Weapon Embellished on Priest, where on Monk I can only have the boots and then waist embellished?
@@BDFProtector Ohh right, ye the boots is one embellishment and the waist (for example) with thr toxified patch will be one. So you cant have any more no.
How come the wowhead guide doesn't show black out kick? It's so confusing trying to follow and l see down the bottom use it inbetween, but it's 4 seconds, what?
Dont think i really understand the question, but BOK is a fillerspell aswell as A ”mark of the cran applier” so u use it inbetween other spells in serenity so u dont break mastery or hit combo
@@aspiceman3450 oh okay, so between every spell during serenity cause its free chi but also outside? I also can't seem to find a WA that counts Teachings of the monastery anymore, it says its included but doesn't show, even popular ones like Luxthos.
@@sentinalchocobo Ye basically just try and follow the priolist, playing monk is all about using ur high damagespells as soon as their off cooldown, so its alot about having resources for that
couple of questions, this is all using serenity and stomp build. seems like the mythic eranog ring would be very good using 2x shadowflame patches and the tier set and even the 2h wep. also what about the back slot? that rare cape worth it since it is crit haste, is the proc worth using over a crit vers cape? and would you still use iredius fragment for raid?
You want to only cancel FoF when you are in serenity, you do it because for each chi spent you extend the duration of serenity, so you want to use as many chispenders as possible. And because RSK is on a such short CD in serenity it will be better to cancel FoF for RSK
Also mythic boon is awesome trinket in AoE. Problem is that if the mobs move/run/frontal you/cc during that ten seconds your worthless. That sim on blood mallet shows maximum uptime with it in ideal circumstances which is hard to do in a m+ environment. Boon during spiteful is not a good trip.
In serenity you cancel FoF so you dont waste any globals, you want to use as many globals as possible in serenity. Also not cancelling SCK, you can use spells while channeling SCK :)
I was exaggerating when i said its completely useless, its still decent when ur in serenity cuz u get more spells off which means more extend which means more damage, outside its pretty much useless tho haha
No this is mostly because some of our ST spells have been buffed and because our tierset makes RSK do AOE damage. You can play any embellish you want essentially :)
@@aspiceman3450 Ok thx, what are your stats man ? i can do only 150000 damages with one rsk but ive seen you pumpin at 200k on raidboss! i tried serenity build to aoe its nice but way harder to play indeed, its very nice in tyrannic so you can pump at ST too, i have to get used to it
@@daarsterr666 30% crit 22% vers 33% mastery 1% haste, unbuffed. Tbf in m+ you dont have to learn it, SEF and ToD build is still extremely good damage, just different niches :D
Hey dude! I hit the underrot weapon it’s up to 337 it’s usually only adding 1k avg dps from the passive for most of my fights in raid. Do you know of any bugs with the weapon or is that normal?
I just stared healing with Mw and I just wanna get a feel for the core stats I got 16 crit 14 haste and 65 mastery what are yours ? cause my heals feels a little weak during burst damage moments
Mythic polearm rare item> mythic plus Forgestorm and Tusks fully upgraded>any other 1-hand weapons with desirable stats> two hand weapon. Heroic rare item polearm will need to be sim’ed to see where it is. Goal is to run two enchants unless you have the mythic rare polearm.
@@kempoajax From my testing so far, Bile is a bit meh in M+, it adds like 0.6 to 0.8% of your total dps, I switched mine out for a weapon with secondary stats, maybe when you do really high keys where mobs do not die in like 1 minute, bile could become better, Forgestorm is pretty decent in M+, in Raiding however, Bile wins over forgestorm by a lot.
For raid pure ST you swap dance of chiji and widening wirl talents for touch of the tiger. And yes atleast for now its better than ToD build, especially cuz so many packs have priotargets and this build really shines there :D
@@aspiceman3450 Hm, I find it hard to believe it's better then ToD build for M+, ToD is top damage in almost all of my runs, I will try it out later, hopefully I'll be suprised, ToD build isnt that fun so if something is better I'd happily swap, it just does so much damage that I am a little bit sceptical of something else actually being better for M+. ToD is even stronger then before, with the 25% hp buff we got, I have even tried Meridian Strikes, switched it out for Transfer the Power, to test and overall it actually came out doing more dps, but it felt wrong not having Transfer of Power.
@@aspiceman3450 That's pretty high, I tried it out for a few runs, I'm around 130-140k overall atm, need some more practice, and I guess your ilvl is maybe a bit higher, and pugs dont really pull nice big packs either. So with this build, do you wait with using Serenity until Xuen is off cd? I feel Serenity benefits a lot from Xuen but the 2 min on Xuen vs 1.5m on Serenity is so awkward.
I really hope with the new 4p tier set, that RSK will be used in AoE instead of SCK for more AoE damage, otherwise it would make the tier bonus pretty meh, that's how I have been playing now anyway, SCK on procs only, and Bonedust brew, without it, just RSK, if it's the right way to play, I'm not sure of yet, I have a feeling that using SCK on 4 to 5 targets will actually still be better.
You also gotta keep in mind if theres a priotarget in the pull, you basically will just passive cleave everything around u while still pumping st damage into that mob. I still think you should use SCK Procs ofc. I will make an update video when i got my 4set!
@@brotherbrentgaming5259 Hard to say this early, with my testing in tyrannical week i do more dps with it, especially in ST which helps alot with timing the dungeon. Im gonna test both this week in fortified and see whats better, will probably be very close
@@Miguel211216 look up all the top monks on wow logs and they use boots. Also look at the damage on each raid boss. I promise you from personal experience the boots do more. I had the shadowflame embellishment and got rid of it for the boots.
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Realest sh*t I’ve ever heard
Great video, really helped me prioritize my gear and rotation. Liked and favorited!
Thank you so much! So you know, i will be uploading an updated video with some new info regarding embellishments and some small rotational changes. Will also talk a little about 2-4set :)
Awesome video man, it’s great not having to use SEF any more in keys: always hated that talent!
Thank you!
Very nice guide, much thank you
Outside of serenity, are you only using FOF at 10 stacks, or are you just using it between RSK windows?
You wanna use FOF as often as possible, the stacks doesnt matter at all :)
Great video but just one question... Why are you not taking White Tiger Statue in either build?
Honestly, it is a dps increase, BUT it is annoying and awkward to use so id rather use that talent point for an extra defensive :D
Im new to WW and all the guides always say let FoF run and to not stop it. What is the benefit of clipping it during serenty and how quickly should you clip it?
Because u have a talents that extends serenity when you use a chispender ability, so you want to use as many abilities as possible in that window. Clip is ASAP if RSK is up, let maybe 2-3 ticks go off if u dont have RSK up
Thank you for the detailed response ☺️
Thanks for the guide! Just got my 4pc, not sure about you, but does this build + rotation still work 4p? My ST damage is decent, working on my AOE. Also what's your opinion on Bomb Dispenser trinket vs Irideus Fragment for m+? I have both + i got Becon to the beyond in my vault!
Holy crap ur lucky!! Gratz! I would go fragment + beacon in m+ :) Ye rotation is basically same with 4p
@@aspiceman3450 Cool thanks. You'd probably do giga dps with my gear lol, but thanks your content I'll get there. I'm definitely subbing!
@@Jo-AshR Thank you so much
Nice! Looking forward to switching to this, esp with 4 piece
Hey, when you would use the Beacon Trinket? I dont like it because its a 2.5min cd and its a channel... but it deals to much damage. I guess we use it after the first Faelinestomp for the extra dmg so its on cooldown before we start blasting with Xuen/Serenity .
Ye good speculations! I havent got it yet but probably before you use other CDs, to get it on cooldown ASAP, also try to hit as many targets as possible obviously
1 question, you are allowed 2 embellishments, so is it Shadowflame on chest and Toxic on waist or just Toxic?
You want the toxic boots, then the toxified armor patch on another piece of gear :)
@@aspiceman3450 Hi on my Priest I am allowed 2 Embelishments. Do the boots count as 1?
@@BDFProtector Oh, on priest u cant have the boots because they are leather :p
@@aspiceman3450 No No I get that, but are the boots classed as an Embellishment, as I have Chest and Weapon Embellished on Priest, where on Monk I can only have the boots and then waist embellished?
@@BDFProtector Ohh right, ye the boots is one embellishment and the waist (for example) with thr toxified patch will be one. So you cant have any more no.
How come the wowhead guide doesn't show black out kick? It's so confusing trying to follow and l see down the bottom use it inbetween, but it's 4 seconds, what?
Dont think i really understand the question, but BOK is a fillerspell aswell as A ”mark of the cran applier” so u use it inbetween other spells in serenity so u dont break mastery or hit combo
@@aspiceman3450 oh okay, so between every spell during serenity cause its free chi but also outside? I also can't seem to find a WA that counts Teachings of the monastery anymore, it says its included but doesn't show, even popular ones like Luxthos.
@@sentinalchocobo Ye basically just try and follow the priolist, playing monk is all about using ur high damagespells as soon as their off cooldown, so its alot about having resources for that
Hi, I can´t find a link to your plater profile. Please could you help
Hmm it might have expired, I uploaded it again wago.io/L7szWrrSa there are still a few things i need to add but its good for now :)
couple of questions, this is all using serenity and stomp build. seems like the mythic eranog ring would be very good using 2x shadowflame patches and the tier set and even the 2h wep. also what about the back slot? that rare cape worth it since it is crit haste, is the proc worth using over a crit vers cape? and would you still use iredius fragment for raid?
Eranog ring BiS yes, but only if its Mythic, the cape is also BiS yes, but the gain is not that great so i wouldnt farm it too hard haha
@@aspiceman3450 thank you
One thing i dont understand, maybe i missed the detail, but why is it better to cancel FoF?
You want to only cancel FoF when you are in serenity, you do it because for each chi spent you extend the duration of serenity, so you want to use as many chispenders as possible. And because RSK is on a such short CD in serenity it will be better to cancel FoF for RSK
I see thanks.@@aspiceman3450
Finally a WW guide! How does the 2 n 4 piece change? Do we full cast fist of fury? Or still cancel for RSK?
Very hard to say atm, since its only been tested in ptr, Im planning on doing an updated guide when i get my 4set (if i ever get it xD)
Also mythic boon is awesome trinket in AoE. Problem is that if the mobs move/run/frontal you/cc during that ten seconds your worthless. That sim on blood mallet shows maximum uptime with it in ideal circumstances which is hard to do in a m+ environment. Boon during spiteful is not a good trip.
Good tip yes! That is why i didnt mentioned that trinket at all hehe
Boon is good but the new raid trinkets blow all old trinkets out of the water. Beacon and Dragonfire are by far the best combo
why do you cancel fists of fury and spining crane kick in aoe ?
In serenity you cancel FoF so you dont waste any globals, you want to use as many globals as possible in serenity. Also not cancelling SCK, you can use spells while channeling SCK :)
Thx for the tips! Q tho: if haste is useless, how come we take invoker's delight over xuen's bond? Surely XB would allow us to sync xuen to serenity?
I was exaggerating when i said its completely useless, its still decent when ur in serenity cuz u get more spells off which means more extend which means more damage, outside its pretty much useless tho haha
Haste is not useless for windwalker monks, it's just less useful than the other secondary stats.
Can you post some of your m+ runs?
Ye I was thinking of it, probably gonna start doing that!
So this is the new meta to dps as a monk interesting! Does this work only with embellish etc you mentioned ? Just to be sure
No this is mostly because some of our ST spells have been buffed and because our tierset makes RSK do AOE damage. You can play any embellish you want essentially :)
@@aspiceman3450 Ok thx, what are your stats man ? i can do only 150000 damages with one rsk but ive seen you pumpin at 200k on raidboss! i tried serenity build to aoe its nice but way harder to play indeed, its very nice in tyrannic so you can pump at ST too, i have to get used to it
@@daarsterr666 30% crit 22% vers 33% mastery 1% haste, unbuffed. Tbf in m+ you dont have to learn it, SEF and ToD build is still extremely good damage, just different niches :D
@@aspiceman3450 Man im 31% crit, 6% haste 19mastery ans 20 vers, guess i need that 30% mastery to max passive...
Slimy expulsion boots sim about 750dps higher and are also better in ST. If you did craft the shadow flame patches you can just recraft
Hei how you press 2 times Cranekick without losing hitcombo?
I actually dont, the "TrufiGCD" addon is just buggy when. It looks like that when i press another ability while im in my SCK.
Hey dude! I hit the underrot weapon it’s up to 337 it’s usually only adding 1k avg dps from the passive for most of my fights in raid. Do you know of any bugs with the weapon or is that normal?
Seems normal i think, i dont know of any bugs haha
Does the NexT raid tier set will change the rotation ?
Probably, i will make an update video once ive tested it properly :D
Do you let FoF finish when NOT in Serenity?
Yes!
I just stared healing with
Mw and I just wanna get a feel for the core stats I got 16 crit 14 haste and 65 mastery what are yours ? cause my heals feels a little weak during burst damage moments
Im really sorry but i have no idea about MW, if you join my stream sometime there are some really good MWs there that can help you :D
Wheres the discord link
Should be in the description :)
Is it recommended to run 2 forgestorms and lose out on the agi?
Preferrably only 1 forgestorm, 2 isnt that bad tho!
@@aspiceman3450 What about the bile stained crawg tusks? One forgestorm one crawg tusk? One forgestorm one crafted weapon?
@@kempoajax Also a very good choice! Forgestorm is slightly better tho, but you should 100% equip it if u get the bile-stained crawg wep
Mythic polearm rare item> mythic plus Forgestorm and Tusks fully upgraded>any other 1-hand weapons with desirable stats> two hand weapon. Heroic rare item polearm will need to be sim’ed to see where it is. Goal is to run two enchants unless you have the mythic rare polearm.
@@kempoajax From my testing so far, Bile is a bit meh in M+, it adds like 0.6 to 0.8% of your total dps, I switched mine out for a weapon with secondary stats, maybe when you do really high keys where mobs do not die in like 1 minute, bile could become better, Forgestorm is pretty decent in M+, in Raiding however, Bile wins over forgestorm by a lot.
Is this talent build better than ToD build? Even in m+, not raid? If so, WW monk uses same build at m+ and raid?
For raid pure ST you swap dance of chiji and widening wirl talents for touch of the tiger. And yes atleast for now its better than ToD build, especially cuz so many packs have priotargets and this build really shines there :D
@@aspiceman3450 Hm, I find it hard to believe it's better then ToD build for M+, ToD is top damage in almost all of my runs, I will try it out later, hopefully I'll be suprised, ToD build isnt that fun so if something is better I'd happily swap, it just does so much damage that I am a little bit sceptical of something else actually being better for M+.
ToD is even stronger then before, with the 25% hp buff we got, I have even tried Meridian Strikes, switched it out for Transfer the Power, to test and overall it actually came out doing more dps, but it felt wrong not having Transfer of Power.
@@bacuda926 Ye its hard to say atm, but like i do 150-160k overall in most runs with faestomp build, and i absolutely melt bosses too
@@aspiceman3450 That's pretty high, I tried it out for a few runs, I'm around 130-140k overall atm, need some more practice, and I guess your ilvl is maybe a bit higher, and pugs dont really pull nice big packs either.
So with this build, do you wait with using Serenity until Xuen is off cd? I feel Serenity benefits a lot from Xuen but the 2 min on Xuen vs 1.5m on Serenity is so awkward.
@@bacuda926 Ye i do that kinda damage when im with premades and we pull big ofc haha! Yes u wait to use serenity with xuen, its awkward but big damage
Do you drop your combo with spinning crane kick inside a serenity window?
Or is it just cancel FoF>crane>Tiger palm into crane kick again?
No you never want to break mastery or hit combo, no exceptions :P
I really hope with the new 4p tier set, that RSK will be used in AoE instead of SCK for more AoE damage, otherwise it would make the tier bonus pretty meh, that's how I have been playing now anyway, SCK on procs only, and Bonedust brew, without it, just RSK, if it's the right way to play, I'm not sure of yet, I have a feeling that using SCK on 4 to 5 targets will actually still be better.
You also gotta keep in mind if theres a priotarget in the pull, you basically will just passive cleave everything around u while still pumping st damage into that mob. I still think you should use SCK Procs ofc.
I will make an update video when i got my 4set!
Private server player is pocket of anvil trinket good for monk
So you only cancel FoF when serenity isn’t active?
No the opposite, when you have serenity active you want to cancel FoF so you use as many spells as possible in that window
Ok understood, so you believe this build is better than the ToD build from last season? 😮
@@brotherbrentgaming5259 Hard to say this early, with my testing in tyrannical week i do more dps with it, especially in ST which helps alot with timing the dungeon. Im gonna test both this week in fortified and see whats better, will probably be very close
hi
pls more vido for ST dps in ride
pls tell me how 1 monk have 150k dps ST in rid
(i see this F SHt :( )
I will try and make a guide for raid aswell! :)
Iridius fragment got nerfed hard
How is that great man lol , WW sucks this seasson .
Slimy expulsion boots sim about 750dps higher and are also better in ST. If you did craft the shadow flame patches you can just recraft
Slimy expulsion boots sim about 750dps higher and are also better in ST. If you did craft the shadow flame patches you can just recraft
Raidbots devs did not said that was a bug in their sims? That the particular item was giving problems in Sims.
@@Miguel211216 look up all the top monks on wow logs and they use boots. Also look at the damage on each raid boss. I promise you from personal experience the boots do more. I had the shadowflame embellishment and got rid of it for the boots.