Burst tire debris exploding all over - Norwegian emergency BHX
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2018
- Flight D86241/IBK6241 Reykjavik to Madrid diverts to Birmingham with wheel and possibly hydraulic problems, on 16 June 2018.
Update: according to The Aviation Herald avherald.com/h?article=4b9f779... the flight diverted due to hydraulic failure
The BHX emergency services deal with the incident in their usual fast and efficient manner.
I was alerted to the arrival of the Boeing 737 by the knowledgeable young son, Oliver, and lovely wife Gemma of Paul Evans, just as I was setting my kit up. Thanks to you to both!
If you look closely upon the nose footage, the tyre looks like it has already exploded. Which is possibly the reason for the hydraulic loss, since the hydraulic reservoir A is located within the belly of the aircraft where the tyre retracts into the belly. So, the tyre exploded within the belly of the aircraft causing damage to hydraulic reservoir A and a rapid drop in hydraulic pressure. Also, hydraulic system A is responsible for ground spoiler, which failed to deploy upon landing.
You're right
OK, I was wondering at the lack of spoilers. Thx for explanation.
No spoilers is standard operating procedure when landing with a gear fault - keeps the weight off the wheels for longer.
Andrew Burke that makes sense. Thx
EinkOLED the tyre exploded inside the airplane and destroyed some hydraulics!
S.O.P. With a gear fault is = flaps 40, VREF 40, fuel pumps off, autobrake off, no spoilers on touchdown and full opposite aileron; the two spoilers raised on the right wing are part of the roll control system.The tire most likely blew on takeoff - hydraulics most likely just fine. All by the book. That's why they get the big money.
There is definitely a hydraulic problem. If hydraulics were fine and full right aileron was applied, there would be 4 spoilers raised on the right wing. Each wing has 4 flit spoilers that help with roll.
Me landing on FSX with perfect weather...
Spectrum Did you mean with a perfect airplane? I mean it was windy, but not too bad weather.
Great view of the tire overhead and a great response by the BHX emergency crew! Loved the video!
The plane landing had a burst tyre, Hydraulic faults and has suffered significant damage it’s still at BHX almost a week later.
Great skill by the pilot to get her down safely similar incidents haven’t had such a good outcome.
Excellent camera work!
The report has just been released. The pilots were faced with multiple issues, but got it down safely.
Great video FlugSnug. Sorry I couldn’t be there myself, but was providing the inside information 😉
Oliver and Gemma said it was a pleasure to meet you. Maybe see you up there one day.
Pleasure to meet them too! I've added their names to the vid description above.
Lots of the hydraulics in the 737 are located in the gear bays. So let me guess: It took off, burst a tire and when the burst tire got inside the wheel bays it damaged the hydraulics, gave an alert to the flight deck almost immediately after departing and it either diverted or returned. That meant the spoilers weren’t all deployed. Not a great design, but the pilots handled it well. Great catch!
Nope, they had been in the air for a little over 2 hrs when they decided to divert.
Looks like the tyre was already shredded a little bit as it flew over you, nice catch!
If you've ever had a tyre blowout on the motorway, you know how hard it is to keep your car going in a straight line. This pilot did an outstanding job!!
As a Southern United States of American, I was SO proud of our Southern city in Alabama for responding to a world-class jet emergency! Until I realized this is Birmingham ENGLAND, not Birmingham, Alabama! Oh, please allow me the honors to do the *facepalm*
See y’all!
Psoriasis Buddy • Lol I love it! We certainly do draw out the haaam, especially in the South!
gomphrena Hi there ! Do you ever get tired of being called Gonorrhea? How do you cope? 😉
lack of spoilers on left show whole left handside hydro is shot
Well done. Pilot worked around that little issue quite nicely.
Well done for capturing this. Great footage. I travelled on this exact aircraft recently for one of my reviews!
Outstanding filming and great work from the Pilots!
Great job capturing this one!
Great catch, my friend Flugsnug. Thumbs up!!!
Crosswind landing. Cross wind blowing from the right of the runway. On final approach the aircraft is flown with a "crab" angle which means the airplane is flying with the nose pointed about ten degrees (depending on strength of the crosswind) to the right. Essentially its flying a little bit side ways to stay on the final approach. On short final, just before touch down, the left rudder is applied to align the aircraft with the runway. AT THE SAME TIME the right wing is dipped into the wind and these inputs are held (it's called cross-controlled flight). The right main landing gear will touch down first, followed by the left main gear.
Excellent catch!
Excellent footage!
WOW! Impressive video of this tire burst.
Matt's Aviation Channel if it burst in England it would be a tyre, probably made in mexico 💩
I like how the pilot turned the aircraft at stop, so that smoke or fire would be away from any slides deployed forward of the wings.
That is an amazing catch. You can see the tyre has delaminated slightly at 0:18.
Very well filmed. Liked.
Jonathan Winton the tyre exploded inside the airplane and destroyed some hydraulics!
Very nice video, how do you achieve such steady footage at this focal length?
Fantastic catch!
Great footage, awesome landing
Fantastic catch! :)
Knew this channel would deliver!
Good job dude very nice catch😁👌✈✈
Great catch !
The pilots made a grate job. Fantastic & exact landing.
Great video mate! Was surprised when this happened as saw that the airport was closed
RS Aviation i live under the downwind flight path and I noticed the flights stop for a bit
HP Lego Yeah me too, the aircrafts were put into a hold. The Aerligus was holding at CHASE, while Jet2, Thomson were holding at GROVE
Left wing - no breaks, no control. Landed like that had trying to have all weight on right side. Do that with no controls on left wing. Hero.
Nice catch!
Also, I planespott at BHX a fair bit and I would like to know where you shot this. (By the way, I can teel that that was RWY33)
lack of left spoilers might be the pilot holding right roll to keep weight off the left maingear. Airliners use spoilers for roll as much or more than ailerons.
It is due to a hydraulic failure. From what I understand there must have been some damage to one of the main gears which caused a hydraulic leak.
oh cool, got a link to that info?
confuseatronica I heard the same but got it off one of the BHX spotters on Instagram who I presume were listening to the live ATC
There is no full deflection in the aileron and both single ground spoiler and flight spoiler deployed on one wing. Definitely a loss in hydraulic pressure in one of the systems (likely A which provides hydraulic pressure to the ground spoilers). Also there was a reported leak from the left gear which is where the hydraulic reservoir A is located.
EinkOLED luckily it didn't puncture the hydraulic lines going to the aelarons or elevators or this would be an entirely different story
Superb Pilots with Excellent flying skills .
Great Video shot for the incidence. I’m glad that everyone on board was safe.
Great catch
Nice! the left inner was blown already. Great catch.
jjaus Yes, left inner looked blown so I wonder why the landing was so hard... At least, it looked hard whereas I thought they would try a very gentle touchdown knowing that at last one tyre had already failed
the tyre exploded inside the airplane and destroyed some hydraulics!
I noticed the spoilers on the left wing weren’t raised after t/d. Was that a result of the hydraulic failure as well? Forgive my ignorance. I’m just an avgeek 😂
wow awesome good catch
Is BHX the official divert for broken planes? We always seem to get them, like Stanstead get the security alert planes.
DigitalDiabloUK there’s a big Monarch engineering hanger there. Lots of specialist chaps on hand...
Great job
Fire service was quick and professional!
I remember that flight as it delayed mine by 5 hours out of box, it was a bit bad as it was a month after Norwegian left bhx airport lol
That was a fantastic video!
Wooowwwwwwwww!! so fantastic...WWWooooooooowwwww!! Why??
Respect for pilots bro!
First major incident for Norwegian since their launch
Great video as usual, but if you look at about 16 to 18 seconds in you can bit see bits flying off the tyre
before it even got near the ground. so it must have been damaged on takeoff.
Kevin burden the tyre exploded inside the airplane and destroyed some hydraulics!
Excellent piece of flight control that.
What about the reversers? Looks like they did not deploy as well!
It was my flight ;)
What was the cause of this incident and spoilers not deploying on the left wing?
Same question.
I think if they deploy spoilers in left wing, that would cause more pressure on the damaged tire?
E Gino then just move the fuel to the right tank but not too much
Pushing the yoke to the right, using right aileron also makes use of the spoilers on that side, they didn't arm the speed brakes as they would deploy on both sides, putting more pressure on the already damaged tire. Putting fuel into the right tank would make the aircraft unstable during the approach, the technique the pilots used meant that firm handling was only required once on the ground.
theyre putting more pressure on the undamaged tyre than the damaged one
Here come the plane expert comments aha.
There is probably damage to the flaps, horizontal stab and LH MLG which might need a change depending on the AMM. Two new wheels for LH MLG too.
Nigel did a good job placing that bird down
And so the birdie birdie did a nice lan lan on one leg leg for a tee tee dance just so we could wee wee on utube xDDD
yeah, it looked like the left main gear tire was deformed on apporach.
Yeah seemed as the pilots were aware there was emergency responders ready
no left wing speed brakes on landing... interesting. must be procedure when a tire is blown. I'd assume they're trying to minimize the downward force speed brakes exert on the gear.
tigersfan14 that isn't how the system works.. we can't turn it off. That would indicate issues with a hydraulic system.
Yoke pushed further to the right makes use of the spoilers on that side as well as the aileron. It appears they avoided arming speed brakes before landing to prevent excessive pressure on the damaged tire upon touchdown as it deploys on both sides.
great video i like it
Almost burst the right landing gear with that landing
Definitely something wrong hydraulically there...crabbed extensively in a 5 knot cross wind? Plus the hard landing and right side only spoilers? Yikes. They almost lost directional control multiple times on the landing roll.
Because the tyre exploded inside.
Fab catch, fab work 👍
Windy as always, you would have thought they would choose a different place to divert to if they could?
Gorbaz The Dragon BHX is a designated divert airport because we have a cat 3 runway
That was a hard landing..... the kind of landings you save for when you have good tires.
That's an odd spoiler setting
Burst on landing? You can see the rubber flapping in the wind while he's on short final. 0:16
Lleva un neumático reventado al despegar en el lado izquierdo, por eso deja caer primero el lado derecho
you could see the tyre was already fucked before touchdown
very definitely!
ford fender the tyre exploded inside the airplane and destroyed some hydraulics!
Definitely other problems, only right wing spoilers deployed. Great catch mate !!!
maybe to have less pressure on the blown tyre?
Not a good day or even a good year!!!!
I wonder if planes have a low tire warning light like most new cars today.
norwegian 737-800 doesnt have this system. But we check tire pressure every 48h
joburgsFinest im a mechanic and i work with this ac, i don t know why they don t have that sys
joburgsFinest nope, we can work and fix all the áreas 😀
I don't know why, but why did it look like the 737 was landing at twice the speed it should have?
If the flaps can't properly deploy (which they can't with a loss of hydraulics), the plane loses the extra lift that they would have generated. Less lift means higher speed to generate the needed lift to stay airborne.
the tyre exploded inside the airplane and destroyed some hydraulics!
No more 2 lane?
pretty sure that was a joke lol
@@dalecannotuploadanymorebye4964 No. It was real. Flugsnug planespotted when they were experimenting with it.
I wasn't aware of that, is there an article about it somewhere?
@@dalecannotuploadanymorebye4964 Not that I know of but theres a video of it in action. ua-cam.com/video/E7M4Ei0uH7s/v-deo.html
That vid was an April Fool''s joke unfortunately
Woww..nasib baik tidak terjadi sebarang kebakaran
I was at Birmingham airport on that day and my flight was delayed 4 hours...
was you molly
Right place at the right time, nice one.
slakyak or wrong time at the wrong place if he gets a blow on the heads:D
just luck..
true :(
Pilot handed that well...
Amós Batista wanted to see a cart wheel
Not sure how much weight transfer he actually achieved, considering the #3 and 4 spoilers didn't deploy til the left main was down.
After reading all the intelligent comments below (as well as the couple of moronic ones), if this damage occurred at, or during, take-off -- and I believe all the evidence suggests that it did -- then I assume the crew must have become immediately aware of it... so can somebody please explain why this injured bird made an emergency landing at BHX? Iceland to Brum is quite a distance to fly in a damaged plane. Plus, would it not make sense to land at an airport with more than one runway? Because I'm assuming Birmingham remained closed for some time after this impromptu arrival. Prestwick, Edinburgh, Manchester or Heathrow spring to mind. Or why not just return to Keflavik? Thanks in advance.
YelpBullhorn the pilot in command takes many factors in consideration while deciding where to divert to, like runway length, the wind conditions, the weight of the aircraft, weather they can handle the aircraft type, even sometimes how familiar the pilots are with the airport may be factored in but the number of runways the airfield has isn't anywhere near the top of that list and it was likely to heavy with fuel to return to where it came from. Even if he did divert to somewhere with more runways it's likely the airport authority would close the whole airport anyway for a while because of the lack of fire coverage.
Tim Morgan... Thanks for replying. I get all that, but imagine if this landing had ended catastrophically the airport could well have been closed for weeks while the runway was repaired and investigations carried out. That's why I think an airport with more than runway would be a more suitable choice for such events.
YelpBullhorn In an emergency to the captain that quite righty doesn't matter his priority is the passengers and crew on board and that means selecting the runway at whatever airport he is happiest to land on to hell with any possible disruption that may happen to the schedule.
Tim Morgan.... absolutely. I understand all what you are saying, and I promise I'm not trying to antagonise you, or disrespect the crew of this stricken 737, who committed themselves admirably. Hats off to them. I just don't understand why it landed in Birmingham, that's all!
After all, it takes off in Iceland, blows a tyre and receives damage to one of its hydraulic systems. Not good. And instantly the crew must have received information from various sensors warning them of the damage to both the tyre and the hydraulic system. So what do they do? I'm trying to imagine the immediate conversation between the flight crew. And all that springs to mind is comical madness. Forgive me if I'm being flippant:
" Right, captain, what's our plan of action?" asks the first officer. "Declare an emergency, enter a hold to burn some fuel, and then request vectors for a return into Keflavik?"
The captain ponders their predicament for a brief moment. Slowly he massages his chin with his finger and thumb. "No no no," he eventually replies. "Let's go to Birmingham instead."
"BIRMINGHAM??? What Birmingham England?" asks the first officer, somewhat taken aback.
"Yes, of course Birmingham bloody England! I don't mean Birmingham, Alabama, man."
"Sir."
"Birmingham England is only about a thousand miles away, most of which is over unforgiving open ocean and rugged mountain tops granted, but It'll be okay."
"Yes, Sir. Birmingham it is.... Birmingham here we come..."
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. I have a slight problem to report. Unfortunately on take off we managed to blow a tyre... which, it would appear, has also damaged one of the plane's hydraulic systems. But don't worry, there's nothing to worry about, everything will be fine. But unfortunately it does mean we will be making an unscheduled landing in... Birmingham."
"Fuckin' Birmingham?!?" the passengers shriek in muffled unison.
Forgive me for getting somewhat carried away, but I just cannot get my head around that decision, that's all. Or am I missing something? Or perhaps I'm the only one who isn't missing something....
I imagine that the hydraulic failure indication manifested itself sometime later in the flight, and prudence dictated that the pilot land where he did.
It goes against logic for a pilot to leave someplace he knows (Reykjavik), do something dangerous (fly over the North Atlantic with passengers on a broken airplane), just to land someplace else - especially not because he was worried about closing the airfield.
If the plane was too heavy, but safe to fly, then the pilots would just fly around until fuel-burn brought them down to max safe landing weight. If the plane was too broken to fly, then the pilots would land - max weights be damned, period - because lives would be at risk, and with that type of risk comes lawsuits.
Take-offs are optional, but landings are mandatory.
It was a hydraulic fault
Te urci in avion si ajungi la morga ,cam asa sint de sigure avioanele in ziua de azi.
something does not sit with me.
asymmetric spoiler deploy, sure, Spoiler Roll Aug would do this, however, there is no aileron deflection? SOP says no auto spoiler deploy on tire burst for safety of the remaining one tire, and to use Aileron input to induce Spoiler Roll Augmentation...... but why is there no aileron deflection the whole time he is on the roll out?
im wondering if the tire shredding popped a hydraulic line in the wheel bay ?
Tire didn't look good in the air, so that sounds likely.
I think mentour has shown the 737 wheel well, and there's a lot of exposed lines etc.
yeah im leaning to damaged hydraulic lines along with the shredded tire. ive seen a wheel well of a 37, there's TONS of lines and components in there
The dialogue between you two guys is impressive! I enjoyed reading it.... even if i didnt understand much. Lol
слева закрылки не открыл чтоб не давило на левую ногу. он и при посадке специально на правое шасси основной тачдаун сделал чтоб уменьшить давление налевую сторону. имхо.
закрылки снизу и сзади крыла. а это спойлеры. совершенно другая вещь. в данном случае использовались не как обычно, для торможения (упрощенно) - т.к. тогда бы было симметричное их поднятие.
при повороте штурвала эти спойлеры "помогают" элеронам - поднимаются на том крыле, которое надо опустить.
касание не на обе ноги одновременно - абсолютно стандартная техника посадки с боковым ветром - в данном случае прикрывались от бокового ветра справа, креном вправо, соответственно. поэтому правая опора и коснулась первой.
на пробеге, видать, ветер задувал не хуже. поэтому штурвал был повернут вправо, и спойлеры справа торчали.
SOP would be to set the flaps on the damaged side at 30, flaps on the other side at 10, hard left rudder on the flare, reverse thrust on the damaged side only, fuel dump while travelling down the runway, throttle up at the end of the runway, continue into the trees and hit the emergency slides.
Hit the afterburner with the slides out and passengers running on the runway while on fire. Then blame the Flight Attendants for the landing.
👀👀 мощно сел
Amazing that they didn't go to an airport with less cross wind, knowing about the tyre. Wtf.
Vass22 Maybe they were tired..
Probably more to do with the fact that Norwegian are familiar with BHX through MAEL and can rely on MAEL to get the aircraft flying again. They have two 787’s in maintenance and BHX as we speak
Only the pilots know why they chose BHX, but in their situation I would go for the one where conditions, runway length, and emergency services were optimum.
My plane got delayed because of this
I believe that tyre was a bit low that’s possibly why it has exploded on the runway
Scott Whiley = look closer mate, think it was flat and damaged before touchdown??
I think it was flat mate I looked closer and it was a very hard landing and all of the sudden bang there goes the tyre
Scott Whiley it was already flat which cause hydraulic issues.
It was knackered before landing.
No dislikes on this video :-) :-p
Don't jinx it.
Def a HYDR issue. Are flaps fully down? Not all spoilers raised upon touchdown too.
This is what is meant to look like on both wings
ua-cam.com/video/FftIQ2COci4/v-deo.html
Could it be due to pilot knowing there was an issue with tyre on that side?
actually sounds like it was both issues. Hydraulics and tyre.
ua-cam.com/video/dEU5XC7654c/v-deo.html
graysono the local newspapers reported that it was an hydraulic fault.
From memory (not a professional pilot... yet!), when there is a sufficient amount of right alerion (as per the video), the speedbrakes deactive on the opposite side of the aircraft (wing up side).
graysono the tyre exploded inside the airplane and destroyed some hydraulics!
If it blew the other tyre out that side it could be disaster.
Who else came from yahoo?
I did. I couldn't get the video to play on Yahoo!
So did I too.
Video Wont play on yahoo
Haha that’s good loved it ur rlly good at this just do the job right next time anyone wana give me tips about how to become an polot
no way he would be flying that plane with the flat tyre
Landing like that, of course you will mess up the tires..
they were messed up before he landed watch again and a landing like that doesnt necessarily destroy the tired it wares them out but thats normal
@@LucaPed94 That is not normal to drop it like that. That is BS..
@@CFITOMAHAWK2 Dude the tires were already defected. When he took off the tired ruptured so when they landed the tire was of course still ruptured therefore your original comment saying that it ruptured because of his landing is wrong and also a landing like that is not suppose to rupture a tire... it wasn't even that hard.
Check out how much harder these landings are .... ua-cam.com/video/pAuTR2vrI3g/v-deo.html
know this is late but if you look closely it was already flapping before he landed so he proceed to put the weight of coming down on the other side of the plane
No you won't. Be informed
This video is sped up
no its not lol
thats just how fast planes are
Go to an airport sometime
speed up your brain maybe, sherlock
@@simonschuck3780 I've been spotting at the end of Runway 33 at Birmingham, they are just that fast.
the video isnt sped, you are
Pilots and passengers are lucky to survive a plane crash in this emergency landing.
Why are they “lucky”? Luck has nothing to do with it. Try good engineering.
Not sure why most of you here are praising the pilot. The landing was rough due primarily to the experience of the pilot even if there was turbulence or wind. If it is not safe to land, you don't. If you choose to, then, you must minimize the landing impact on the tire. This here was a crash landing. Good that airplane tires are made to resist explosion or it would've exploded upon impact.
the left tyre burst when they took off, so when it was time to land, he landed on the right tyre alone and not put the bulk of the impact on the already bursted left tyre. Afterwards he deployed the spoilers on the right wing only as to not add more downward force on the left bursted tyre. Thats why the pilot was amazing.
@@zanw.awesome3102 wow thanks for the explanation. now I see. 😄
idiot stick to flight simulator
The landing was totally normal. You dont land a boeing like you land an another plane. The gear is able to handle the sideloaded touchdowns up to the demonstrated limit.
@@Hk-uw8my indeed. It's a 737-800 8Max they are said not even easy to land. Great job there done. I flew not long ago last month and this month with Norwegian and the Max amazing airplanes and airliner
The fullldkkk =.. Shittty landing knowing he has a flat tire. Drop it on the runway.. Bad pilot..
hE HAD ALSO HYDRAULICS PROBLEMS MATE
He was trying to touch down on right wheel so he can have all weight on that side. Plus, if you look at left wing, no speed brake applied on that side on touchdown, he had no control on that side, if you think is easy to land a plane with no control on one side you are a hero
@@screwtewb - I teach soft field landings with 15 knots direct crosswinds. From the left are the hardests ones. Want to compete? Lets do it. Piper Tomahawks we will use. You chump..
@@maccodj Possible hydraulics problem due wetness on underwear of the pilots. That was a dangerous drop on runway knowing they had to do a soft touchdown due bad tires. FAILED AS REAL PILOT.
@@CFITOMAHAWK2 :) :) :)
Great view of the tyre overhead, and a great response by the BHX emergency crew! Loved the video!
Nice catch... Scary!!