I feel that these kind of videos are somehow unrealistic for the majority of people. People who also workout, but they have an 8-9 shift jobs and do other things for a living. So, they can be disappointed for not be able to follow a lifestyle like that. And there are other factors which can lead to frustrating, such as the prices of the products, or the culture of each one. For example, other foods we eat traditionally here in Greece and different things consume people in Asia. Not to mention that, these videos may be triggering for someone who suffers from ED
When I first turned my life around they were very useful to gauge what a normal portion looks like, because I've been raised by morbidly obese feeders who also forced me to eat like them. A full pizza was a 'portion' and I got a lot of shit if I didn't finish it in a single dinner (for example.) But I was lucky to watch the right content creators and not the 1200kcal ones, nowadays I might still use them for recipe inspiration but I prefer videos where they're part of it but not the only focus, like Will Tennyson.
Some of them can really make you feel inadequate. For example, if you follow someone whose physique inspires you, and they post a video where they eat foods that you've been restricting for months hoping to achieve their physique/better physique.... It really fucks with your head.
Personally, I just don't see the point of them. Sure, there may be the odd person who actually recreates a meal or two they see on those videos but the vast vast majority probably just watches them and moves on. Plus, if you want meal inspiration, there are literally billions of recipes out there, online and on paper. I think the biggest problem that comes with full-day of eating or similar videos is that they're not just triggering for people with eating disorders, they are part of the disorder. As far as I understand, from myself and research on EDs, in the depth of the illness, many sufferers, including my-(former)-self, tend to obsess not just about the food they're eating but also the food everyone else eats. Some people even start becoming amateur chefs and feed everyone else around them 3 course meals while restricting/purging their own. And the worst part is that you don't realise that it's harmful at the time. It doesn't feel triggering or upsetting, it's almost joyful because it allows you to interact with food without the "guilt" that comes with consuming it. So while I agree with some other comments that some of the videos can be helpful in showing people in recovery what normal portions look like, the vast majority of ED sufferers will seek out the very low calorie ones and use those to justify their own restriction. I'd go so far as to say that the predominant audience of WIEIAD videos are those with disordered eating of some form. Long story short, there's just no point of comparing one's diet with someone else's especially not over just one day. These videos may be entertaining for some at best but hugely debilitating for most.
I think you have to take them with a grain-no- boulder of salt and only watch from trusted content providers who can contextualize the information. When done well, they can help me calibrate my eating and get a sense if I am maybe out of balance. For example, Redefining Strength did one and it was very helpful to me because it was presented in a very contextualized way. But many of these are really just lies. You see people with six pack abs eating pancakes, fatty rich foods and saying "see? I can eat like this" and that can really make you feel like a loser.
I suffer from anorexia , but I actually find your videos the opposite of triggering. You bring compassion, insight and are quite inspiring. I very much enjoy your content and appreciate that you tackle difficult topics with nuance. I definitely think full day of eating can impact people for the better or the worse, it really just depends. Comparisons are often problematic, and, yes, calories certainly can be triggering for many people.
I’ve been in recovery for a few years, and I ABSOLUTELY could not agree with you more. The wording in his videos make me feel seen and cared for more than many things have. Good luck with your journey! YOU are worth the work!
To TFNL Friends: remember an influencer is a brand, the product most often is themselves. While you're working at your job or are in school, you're producing work like a report or spreadsheet, those same hours the influencer is producing work i.e themselves as a product through social media/video creation. So don't feel down when you can't achieve their fitness or lifestyle, they just spent X hours working on their self-spreadsheet. If they have a team, then multiple people spent their days working on influencer spreadsheet. What they post isn't realistic because its just a snapshot and the work is self-focused. Don't ever feel like you have failed for not dedicating 7/7 days to yourself - imagine that their assistant is in the same boat as you are.
I approach full day of eating videos in kind of the same way you discussed. I will watch some (from trusted creators) for food or recipe inspiration. However, as someone with a history of EDs, I do try to be extremely careful in my consumption of content that is centered exclusively around tracking/recording all food. In my experience, I think full day of eating videos can be helpful in terms of understanding how MUCH food one could be eating (ie: Jeff Nipper or MegSquats who are showing full days of eating when training). In my opinion, and personal experience, I think the more restrictive ones (ie: 1200 calories or less) can be quite dangerous especially for younger viewers. I won't name any names, but videos posted by influencers detailing their "diet" that closely resembles my own during the height of my ED, sets off major alarms when they know their primary audience is like 12-16 year olds. Anyway, just my two cents. As always, thanks for the vid :)
I love "full day of eating" videos. Actually, especially Natacha Oceane's videos and explanations helped me view nutrition in a different and healthy light! So glad I found her. My eating had been a little disordered and I was on the verge of anorexia when younger but nothing crazy anymore before watching her. I love her and some other creator's healthy relationships with food and I do get a few meal ideas. But I also realize that my needs are different and specific to me. Edit: I'm selective of the videos I consume. If someone spews nonsense, I immediately stop watching. Unfortunately, many young people don't know the difference and what to look out for
Same! I love watching Natacha because she actually helped me through a phase of disordered eating, listening to her saying science backed info and how she approaches food in general was perfect for me to realize that I was under eating and labeling food
Video Notes: Obviously a bit of a different video from you, but one I know much of your audience will appreciate! Your genuine concern for your audience's mental health always shows through, and I have no reason to doubt it's authenticity. I'll also commend you for taking the effort to learn more about eating disorder issues yourself so you can more effectively talk about them to vulnerable populations. It was good to see the demonstrations with training footage at the end, something I know you've been filming for a while to start incorporating in videos, so will be great to see going forward. Your videos and you are always appreciated, breh!
I agree 100%, and even if you don’t have a background in eating disorders, we can see your efforts into supporting and addressing the dangers of certain types of content. The final footage of the exercises demonstration is gold! Can’t wait to see more of those. For example when I do the single arm lat pulls, I do them kneeling, and I extend my elbow a bit further than parallel to feel my lat more, but I didn’t know I was targeting the lower part more. Thank you for the explanation!
@@traceym.8371 two books I borrowed from the library are 8 Keys to Recovery from an Eating Disorder (Carolyn Costin & Gwen Schubert Grabb) and Loving Someone with an Eating Disorder (Dana Harron). Carolyn and Gwen are both licensed therapists and eating disorder specialists who are both recovered, and Dana is a Doctor of Psychology. I’d definitely pay attention to the author’s credentials for any book you choose to read and probably stick to therapists who specialize in EDs or psychologists. The first book I borrowed was written by a registered dietician, and I felt guilty having to return it to the library because it was awful.
Today I felt like I was falling into the good/bad food labeling again and feeling shit about myself, and this video popped in my feed right on time... ED recovery is a daily struggle, some days are better, some not so much, but being aware of your mind's habits and where it tends to go in times of stress is key. Thank you for creating valuable and kind content! Your words today made my day better and reminded me to put myself first :)
Found this video fascinating Harry. I was planning on actually making a full day of eating video tomorrow, because surprisingly when I ask people what videos they want to see they say they enjoy a full day of eating video. I must admit I haven’t always considered how this can come across to people with eating disorders as well people who maybe very new to training and are looking to copy a specific diet when it’s very individual. Even though I do not have a big following, from The comments and DM’s I get, they are often young guys and girls who are just starting their fitness/lifting journey, therefore I am often very careful with the content I put out. This video has made me think about how I’m going to approach these types of videos in the future. Appreciate you my dude❤️
I totally agree with you! You just perfectly worded how I feel and think about this type of content. I do not mind that kind of content for myself, but for many it can be problematic. As a person with adhd I like to get some inspiration for food. My meds absolutely kills my appetite, I have to force myself to eat and when someone shows something that looks really good and I just instantly start craving the food I saw, I feel as if I have won the lottery😂 I also have to say that I appreciate it when some of theese people use those kind of videos to show others that you can loose weight and still eat the things you love to eat. Totally guilt free, not making ppl think that dessert is the enemy. Giving ppl smart and yummy alternatives to actually enjoying the process is a really smart thing to do imo, it will hopefully get ppl to understand that it can be a positive experience and not just getting them to hate «bad» food and making them feel ashamed for enjoying said «bad» food. As always, I enjoy your content so much! U have a way with words, u explain everything so well and you are always so warm, understanding and kind! You never talk shit about others and you are so damn respectful! Honestly, if more ppl were like you the world would be a much better place! Sending my love from Norway!🥰
I am in ED recovery and as someone who is recovering, in the depths of my ED many full day of eating videos, I became obsessed over and now I see they were promoting restrictive eating. So sad that it is soo normalised.
Before even watching, gotta say: This hat is incredibly funny 🤣 You've outdone yourself! 😂 Gotta get used to it before I'm able to process and absorb your educated opinions and tips
I’ve been suffering from eating disorders my whole life until I was 30. Now I’m 42, I do strength training and enjoy eating. I’m also paying attention to my macros but I don’t obsess over it. I watch full days of eating videos only because I’m now in a good mental health and I have a good relationship with food and my body. If I would go back in time to my anorexic years, I think those videos would have had a negative impact on my mental health. One thing I deeply find disturbing and triggering for me are mukbang videos. Those should be banned.
This is so inspiring. I hope you don’t mind me askIng but what helped you to change? I’m in my 30s and I’m finally realising the impact of my ways. So I’m increasing my intake. But was there anything that really helped you? ☺️
@@traceym.8371 Mukbangs videos correspond to “ana” and thinspo images and blogs. It’s the other side of the same coin: Inspiring more disorder eating and unhealthy relationship with food.
@@natashaj4113 Glad to hear you’re taking some steps to heal ❤️ For me it has been fundamental mental support with a therapist. Unfortunately for me, I a reached a point where I had to be hospitalized. That journey has been tough but enough to put in the work to change. I suggest you find the kind of support you need externally. For as much as our family/friends/partners want to help, they’re too much involved and usually they’re not expert. Good luck, I’m sure you’ll get better with time 😘
Thank you do much for your video. I think you're approaching a very important problem here... Especially when talking about mentioning calories and macros I personally know that I am most likely consuming more full day of eating videos than the average person and I fully agree with your opinion on them potentially being triggering - because some of them definitely can be. Personally, I usually spend my time eating without company and find it really hard to eat that way. That's why I watch those videos, to feel less lonely when I am eating. But I think it totally depends on the person doing the videos, there can be a lot of really helpful youtubers who are not including calories whatsoever and only show meal inspiration. That's the value I see in them :)
I had a not-so-fun time with disordered eating and it really made things so difficult in so many ways. I now practice intuitive eating which really rejects the idea of counting calories and eating specific foods simply because we “should”. I like seeing good food ideas, but I don’t like seeing the calories or amounts of food because it’s so easy to slip into feeling badly about myself for not eating a certain way (despite knowing that I include lots of nutrient dense foods including healthy fats, whole grains, lean proteins, fruits and veg). Eating is and should always be highly individualized, but I feel these videos imply a certain level of “eat like me and you’ll look/perform like me” and that’s horrifically misguided. Just my thoughts. Thank you for making this video! I love your ongoing care for sensitive topics- it’s so important to remember that we are all humans doing the best we can, which looks so different for everyone.
FDE videos to me are like the calories on restaurant menus. They have an inherent potential for value in that they let you know something you did not know before. At the same time, it is up to the individual to decide whether that info or knowledge is A) true B) relevant or C) helpful.
Those videos have been really motivating me not to starve myself and to continue reverse dieting journey and build muscle when i see other fitness influencers who weigh less and eat higher calories than me.
I’m training for a marathon (two weeks out!) and while I’m physically capable of accomplishing the things required to get ready, it turns out I get bored on long runs and I don’t like eating high volumes of carbs. Love carbs, but there’s a limit. I felt like, as a runner, I need to keep increasing my distance for races to prove that I’m in good shape. At least I know better now, and will take those lessons with me after the race. I’m working with a nutritionist to get me through the next two weeks, then I’m looking forward to switching back to workouts and a diet that I enjoy more and letting my Ironman ambitions sit while I have way more fun improving my sprint speeds. Re: keeping up with other people-I’ve run myself ragged trying to do similar workouts to my huge, works-out-as-part-of-his-job boyfriend, but I’m happiest when we go to the gym together but do our own thing, and do a challenge workout together once in a while that I modify to fit my abilities. Thanks for the thoughtful video Harry!
I quite enjoy Full day of eating videos. Mostly for ideas and inspiration. My favourite videos are generally by Finnish fitness influencers, because they usually feature foods I would actually make (I'm Finnish myself). If the videos feature meal prep and/or oatmeal, even better. (Don't ask me why I find oatmeal so exciting, I have no idea)
I like watching some to find inspiration on what to make or just have them in the background. However, I find that a lot of women do not include the calories they consume and encourage eating all and not restrict. That also may just be who I follow too, who knows!
The messages in the video are spot on. After years of trying different diets and fads it finally clicked for me that I needed to change my relationship and how I view food. Once I started hearing the message that food is fuel, that started helping me switch my mindset. I tracked macros for about 4 months just to help rewire my brain on how I should be balancing my diet. That being said, once I was around the 4 month of tracking I saw the dangers of tracking come out (just what I experienced). I started becoming fixated on calories and the macros for the day, even if I wasn’t hungry at night but I had calories left to burn I would force myself to eat, that’s when I realized I was ready to move towards intuitive eating. Now I eat when and what my body is craving. I think this is super important, especially for women. Studies have shown that for women who are moving through their different cycles each month correlate with a influx of calories and other nutrients during those times. I know people all have their different lifestyles and different things work for different people, but I couldn’t be happier with intuitive eating.
as a person with ocd these videos were my downfall during my ed. Its an unhealthy obsession, i couldnt stop watching them but they made me feel awful. Im healthier now. still dealing with repercussions from my ed.Those videos now sometimes give inspiration. but when my mental health is bad, they sent me into a downward spiral.
With this hat on your head, you should have presented with a Scottish accent. 😊😊 Great video. Super RIGHT about calorie count being really a difficult benchmark because there are soooooo many variables.
If I only had one video to show someone what TFNL is about, it’d be this video. I have always appreciated your messages of “you vs you”, finding the best option that works for you, and never comparing yourself to others. You keep it real Harry, just needed to let you know. For what I eat in a day videos I really enjoy them actually! I do however avoid the ones that have the calories in them. I’m very passionate about being able to live a healthy lifestyle without counting calories and that’s why in my videos I don’t either :) I enjoy them bc I like getting different ideas and it’s just interesting to me. I enjoy making what I eat videos bc I want to show others you can achieve success in a steady, balanced, and healthy way.
I struggle - on and off - with my eating and can definitely find some videos triggering. But I absolutely love Natacha Oceane's eating videos. Both because I adore her personality and because she reminds me not to be afraid of food. She makes me enjoy a healthy and balanced lifestyle. I'm definitely not where I want to be aesthetic-wise, but I am also debating whether it's worth it if I feel absolutely miserable and hungry during the process itself. Lately I've been enjoying not counting calories and instead focusing on my body's hunger cues, feeling strong when I workout, and how it frees up a lot of time to not obsess over food 24/7. I still have my "bad days", of course, where I question whether what I'm doing is right, but more and more I am trying to tell myself that achieving my goal of a flat stomach won't make me a better or more valuable person. 😅 Love your videos too. I've already learned a lot by watching your content.
I have to say this hat is really doing it for me haha this one is a keeper 😉 Excellent info as always, love that you're so mindful of the mental health of your viewers. Keep up the great work! 💜
I like what I eat in a day videos just because I'm nosey and like to see how other people live their lives. However... they did really mess me up in the past but not any more than just being around other people while they ate... I have a fast metabolism for my height. But I have a very healthy appetite so I've never dealt with being too thin and I can overeat and gain weight. I'm 32 5'1" sort of active female and I maintain 125 lbs at 2500 to 3000 calories. I've had friends my same height and size who ate waaaaaay less and I felt really embarrassed by it. People have made comments in the past about how much I eat and didn't believe me when I said I was starving a few hours after eating so much. It almost felt not feminine to eat so much. When I was younger I would try to emulate what I eat in a day's from other women that looked like me, so like 1500 to 1700 calories and I would get dizzy spells if I stood up, I'd feel faint, couldn't sleep, and would stop working out because I just couldn't move. I don't like needing to eat this much it's honestly annoying. I think people should remind people in those videos that calorie need recommendations are an AVERAGE which means you will have outliers like me lol
Honestly, I enjoy full days of eating videos a lot but I have never looked at them as a guide or as “this is how it should be“. I understand that the content might be triggering or harmful for some as we all eat a different amount of calories and in different ways in general. Great video :)
A lot of the lower calorie target videos are more to show you that it isn't impossible to stay satisfied eating that number and reasonable meals can be had even if it seems like low calories. The +dessert most likely isn't to shame it but show you that you don't have to miss out on treats in a 1450 deficit diet. It's about learning to encorporate everything
Harry, loved your take on this. I’ve never thought how triggering those videos can be. It’s odd to think this is the best way people get across their advice for eating. Not sure how else you can do it though? I’d love to see your take on Miss Fit & Nerdy. I loved her content for awhile but something seems just…odd about her videos as of recently. As always, love your advise!
This video couldn't have come at a better time for me. I know my disordered eating is unhealthy and I'm constantly trying to remind myself of this. I do sometimes watch What I eat in a day videos but only from influencers I think are genuine
Two random (nice!) comments: 1. Really good trigger explanation/debunk. Not an ED peep, a PTSD bod, but honestly probably the best overview/disclaimer I’ve heard. 2. Just realised why I still watch (tldr body is being ridiculous and use mobility aids because spine is basically a wasteman at this point). Dunno if it’s deliberate, but your content is actually pretty disability-inclusive. I’ve been on the pivot point of “do I use a wheelchair and max out when not in it, or do I not do that but accept less overall activity/freedom” for a few years now. There’s a few wheelie creators doing fitness stuff anyway, but you’re one of very few people I watch who does fitness for people with typical leg power & balance potential. You’ve just got a really good knack for not making me feel rubbish about my body being radically different to what it was, and it’s like I don’t have to actively address the ongoing grieving for that while I watch. I can just kick back and actually focus on what you’re saying. That’s a rare talent. It’s nice to be seen as just another fleshy bone bag trying to make the most out of what I’ve got 👍
For me personally, I'm in a very similar mindset about full day of eating videos as you. I watch both videos from people that are training and aiming for a calorie amount but I also watch a lot of videos of people that don't train, don't track and just eat whatever when they want. Both of these I watch for inspiration for meals, whether those meals are aiming to help me fit into my macros or something that just looks tasty and I want to try. I think the problem definitely can come when people are maybe struggling with eating disorders or feeling lost on their journey they'll look to replicate them or feel bad about their own food. It's definitely something that people need to consider how viewing this content will personally affect THEM and whether its beneficial for the consumption of that content in the long run or if it just fuels their damaging mindset more. I've been on the ED boat with watching these videos and it definitely made me feel worse at the time, now I'm in a healthier place with calories and food etc in general these videos are more beneficial than detrimental to me.
I unfortunately went through a period where I was very into watching extremely low calorie what I eat in a day videos and those were very harmful and as I tried to develop a better relationship with food I came to really dislike those types of videos as a whole. However, recently I've gotten into what I eat in a day videos that really encourage eating enough and finding balance and they've really helped me. Especially Natacha Oceane's videos. I definitely relate to what you said about just liking to watch people eat while you eat lol. And hey give me inspiration too
Something that pisses me off about "full day of eating" and "day in the life" videos is that most of the influencers have partners and no full time jobs. They'll be like: "so i have two sunny side eggs, on organic avocado toast, with fresh cut berries and green juice - so healthy and satisfying!" Like seriously, you have like an hour to make breakfast and journal everyday? Try having work deliverables or a commute or a job with performance measures.. they don't show that a large portion of their life is run by other people (partners, assistants, business managers, editors, etc) when none of what they are doing is achieved by a single person. Its just deceiving and disappointed
This is such a good point! There are a couple of people I used to follow but stopped when they quit their "normal" jobs to be full time influencers because I just couldn't relate anymore.
As someone who has recovered from an ED, I am a strong believer that everyone(!) should follow intuitive eating, and it is absolutely possible to attain your goals while doing so. It’s been possible for me and other influencers like Libby Christensen. If anyone seeing this is struggling or would like to find out more, I found the podcast “Eating Disorders Recovery Podcast” by Tabitha Farrar to be huge in my recovery and a great resource. ❤️
I found calorie counting quite triggering for me in the past. I have always been insecure about my body, and that did lead to restricting and feeling guilty about eating certain foods. I try to follow creators/influencers who do not count their calories and intuitively eat and i find inspiration in their meal ideas to incorporate in my own. I do track calories now, but purely to see if i am eating the recommneded intake for myself and to judge how I feel. I think FDOE videos can be good, but you have to be careful how you approach them, like what you discussed. Thanks for the video! The yellow fluff sitting on the side of your face annoyed me to no end though lol.
I sometimes watch these types of videos also thinking I will get “new ideas” which I also never use 😂 A question… do I always need to work to failure when my goal is maintenance and not hypertrophic?
I like watching Natacha's Full day of eating videos. She had some fun food ideas. Full day of eating videos have caused a lot of harm to my mental health in the past. I'd see women eating 1300 calories and feel terribly about myself because u was eating a lot more.
Personally, What I Eat In A Day videos have quite the positive effect on me. I like to follow smaller youtubers, like Grackle or Linh Trang, because they don't follow a diet, they don't calorie track - they just eat when they want what they want. They approach food as something that makes them happy. And it rubs off. It also makes me want to try new foods, that I previously couldn't eat because of ARFID. On the flip side, seeing those videos that focus on a certain amount of calories (both undereating & overeating) make my stomach turn. They have a time and place, but they're also very bad manipulators. Watching people eat >2.5k cal makes me want to eat less. Watching people eat
I can see why they are problematic for some people. However for me personally, I have only started stumbling across them recently and I find them a bit intriguing. As a long time vegetarian it is interesting to me to see what people post as health conscious meals and what can I borrow from.
Interestingly enough, when I first started trying to get healthy I watched a lot of these videos and became a bit obsessed with making every single meal beautiful and "healthy" (which actually meant low-cal to me and the creators I watched back then). Calorie counting was also harmful for me at the time because I hadn't properly dealt with my body image issues or my food issues, so it lead to some harmful behaviour.... Not that I'm perfect now, but after a couple years of no counting and no weighing and really working on the emotional side of things, I'm going back to it now to get into muscle building! I never ever thought I would want to ADD to my body, but now I'm so excited to see that first bit of buldging as my muscles grow! I feel way more able to view this from a scientific perspective, counting just to optimise and understand my doet from a nutritional perspective. Tracking revealed to me that my daily protein was way below even the government guidelines, let alone the levels needed to build muscle. Correcting that improved my energy levels a lot, no longer hungry all the time! Ive always been very weak physically, and building strength now is more like a hobby than a mandate (cos strength isn't a need, its just a goal I'm pursuing for fun and health).
Crazy that this video got recommended to me… My channel is blowing up, 30k subs in two months. Majority of my shorts content is full day of eating. Would love to know what you think about my shorts
I enjoy the videos for the most part. Sometimes I’ll get a little meal or snack idea. But I do understand why they’re problematic. I also think that some people are dishonest when they do these videos.
Might be a weird question, but do you think lateral raises are effective for the shoulders? I feel like it’s really hard to progressively overload them, since it may lead injuries
I find some upper body exercises are a lot harder to progressively overload by adding weight. If you’re unable to increase the weight, you could also try adding more reps or another set.
I personally skip the ones with a swimsuit (or similar) photo in the thumbnail. It makes me sad that someone’s abs (or anything about their body) is the primary advertisement of their food choices.
I have made what I eat in a day videos tht weren't focused on calories. I also could binge the next day but I was good on taping days. But I also found out after I had my last baby, that some of the more "intuitive eating" types made me angry and frustrated in even trying. Not sure if they are fake but some of these super slender people are eating huge meals(but at the same time super food focused) and I was upset that I couldn't even do that when nursing a kid! Obviously I will always need to have some sort of awareness on what I eat. 🤷 I am hoping to find a more balanced approach this time and find happiness in what helps me attain health.
I love what I eat in a days and similar videos, but use them for meal inspiration and recipe ideas rather than seeing them as things I need to copy. It also means I usually only watch creators who eat foods that I enjoy rather than overly restrictive creators. However I can absolutely see how these kinds of videos could negatively impact some people.
Comment question! I realize this may be kinda stupid: The concept of failure is still somewhat confusing. For instance, when benching or OHPing, if I take a couple of seconds of extra rest at the top, I'm able to get a few more reps in. Does training to failure mean: no more rep with minimal rest time between reps or no more reps with x seconds of rest between reps? With squats and DLs this is extra confusing.
I enjoy full day of eating videos for inspiration…and some curiosity. Although I have not observed them to be problematic for me, I certainly understand why they might be for some.
I eat what I like to eat and that my body can handle. I do watch those video's too and also to find some inspiration but I actually never try it 😂 im happy and healthy now. In the past it was borderline anorexia for me and standing 3 times a day on my scale...now...my scale is a dustbuster now.
I do watch them occasionally but I know that their needs are differnt to mine and often unrealistic as maybe they feel pressured to show the community that they are "healthy" but eat way too little
I believe WIEIAD videos start to become somewhat dangerous when for example a youtuber let's their audience know that they're activelly avoid a certain type of food/food groups because it isn't "good for them" or "clean enough". It makes me kinda sad to watch that because that person is clearly struggling with their relationship with food but at the same time it is very irresponsible of their part to be spreading that kind of messaging, you know? Im sorry if this sounded kinda confusing, i'm not a native speaker :X Also, where the hell do you get all of your hats? Do you have a special closet for them or something?😅
I like FDE videos for recipe inspiration and new snack ideas whe you're in a rut, but I cringe when I see the ultra-low-calorie, low-nutrient "meals" some people think is appropriate.
The “what I eat in a day” videos can be interesting inspiration but I also remember that the people making the video probably have a lot more time and money at their disposal for grocery shopping and meal prep. Also after a while videos coming from similar types of content creators all start looking the same lol
Question for CQOW - I currently go to the gym 4 times a week and do 2 upper body days and 2 lower. I have been doing 1 push day and 1 pull day for upper body but would I see better results if I combined them and just did an all over upper body day and do the same movements both days 🤔
I'm recovered from an eating disorder. I personally like FDOE videos for the purpose of meal ideas and recipes. The people I watch that do FDOE don't include any calories about the food, generally female creators tend not to, it seems to be mainly in the bodybuilding space. However, I personally don't really think it's a major issue, and I definitely wouldn't say all influencers should just ignore calories altogether, because that's also not helpful. It's complicated as you could say that literally anything could be triggering to someone with an ED if the content is about food. I think that as long as the creator puts a disclaimer on the video that's as far as their responsibilities extend. If you think something is triggering to you and your ED, don't watch it. Unless the creator is making false claims or putting out dangerous information then I don't think it needs to be 'called out'
We have pretty much the exact same approach to WIEIAD videos...I like to see what other people eat ostensibly to give me ideas of things I could make and eat (but do I ever follow through? Not so far! ), and I don't love the stigmas they often perpetuate.
fdoes definitely impacted me negatively. now i like them, from creators/nutritionists i like, for inspiration, but when i had an ed, i would watch different fdoes for a long time and feel superior that i ate less than them. then i would watch recovery all in fdoes where people stuffed themselves with junk and it disgusted me and drove me further into my food hatred. i do still hate those and avoid them.
They used to be my favourite to watch, but since recovering from my ED, I find them boring honestly. i'm just not as interested in food. I like food but it doesn't control me and I don't seek out the content. I think meal ideas and cooking videos are dope but FDOE... nah.
How do you feel about full day of eating videos?
I feel that these kind of videos are somehow unrealistic for the majority of people. People who also workout, but they have an 8-9 shift jobs and do other things for a living. So, they can be disappointed for not be able to follow a lifestyle like that. And there are other factors which can lead to frustrating, such as the prices of the products, or the culture of each one. For example, other foods we eat traditionally here in Greece and different things consume people in Asia. Not to mention that, these videos may be triggering for someone who suffers from ED
When I first turned my life around they were very useful to gauge what a normal portion looks like, because I've been raised by morbidly obese feeders who also forced me to eat like them. A full pizza was a 'portion' and I got a lot of shit if I didn't finish it in a single dinner (for example.) But I was lucky to watch the right content creators and not the 1200kcal ones, nowadays I might still use them for recipe inspiration but I prefer videos where they're part of it but not the only focus, like Will Tennyson.
Some of them can really make you feel inadequate. For example, if you follow someone whose physique inspires you, and they post a video where they eat foods that you've been restricting for months hoping to achieve their physique/better physique.... It really fucks with your head.
Personally, I just don't see the point of them. Sure, there may be the odd person who actually recreates a meal or two they see on those videos but the vast vast majority probably just watches them and moves on. Plus, if you want meal inspiration, there are literally billions of recipes out there, online and on paper.
I think the biggest problem that comes with full-day of eating or similar videos is that they're not just triggering for people with eating disorders, they are part of the disorder. As far as I understand, from myself and research on EDs, in the depth of the illness, many sufferers, including my-(former)-self, tend to obsess not just about the food they're eating but also the food everyone else eats. Some people even start becoming amateur chefs and feed everyone else around them 3 course meals while restricting/purging their own. And the worst part is that you don't realise that it's harmful at the time. It doesn't feel triggering or upsetting, it's almost joyful because it allows you to interact with food without the "guilt" that comes with consuming it.
So while I agree with some other comments that some of the videos can be helpful in showing people in recovery what normal portions look like, the vast majority of ED sufferers will seek out the very low calorie ones and use those to justify their own restriction. I'd go so far as to say that the predominant audience of WIEIAD videos are those with disordered eating of some form.
Long story short, there's just no point of comparing one's diet with someone else's especially not over just one day. These videos may be entertaining for some at best but hugely debilitating for most.
I think you have to take them with a grain-no- boulder of salt and only watch from trusted content providers who can contextualize the information. When done well, they can help me calibrate my eating and get a sense if I am maybe out of balance. For example, Redefining Strength did one and it was very helpful to me because it was presented in a very contextualized way. But many of these are really just lies. You see people with six pack abs eating pancakes, fatty rich foods and saying "see? I can eat like this" and that can really make you feel like a loser.
I suffer from anorexia , but I actually find your videos the opposite of triggering. You bring compassion, insight and are quite inspiring. I very much enjoy your content and appreciate that you tackle difficult topics with nuance. I definitely think full day of eating can impact people for the better or the worse, it really just depends. Comparisons are often problematic, and, yes, calories certainly can be triggering for many people.
Please take care of yourself! Starving or overexcercising won't ever worth it - but you are worth it to live a happy life! All the best to you
@@valleyoflight Working on it :) thanks so much. Wishing you well!
I’ve been in recovery for a few years, and I ABSOLUTELY could not agree with you more. The wording in his videos make me feel seen and cared for more than many things have.
Good luck with your journey! YOU are worth the work!
100% agree, as someone coming from the same position
Take care! I hope you get better! Sending love and support 🙏🏻🤍😊
To TFNL Friends: remember an influencer is a brand, the product most often is themselves. While you're working at your job or are in school, you're producing work like a report or spreadsheet, those same hours the influencer is producing work i.e themselves as a product through social media/video creation. So don't feel down when you can't achieve their fitness or lifestyle, they just spent X hours working on their self-spreadsheet. If they have a team, then multiple people spent their days working on influencer spreadsheet.
What they post isn't realistic because its just a snapshot and the work is self-focused. Don't ever feel like you have failed for not dedicating 7/7 days to yourself - imagine that their assistant is in the same boat as you are.
I approach full day of eating videos in kind of the same way you discussed. I will watch some (from trusted creators) for food or recipe inspiration. However, as someone with a history of EDs, I do try to be extremely careful in my consumption of content that is centered exclusively around tracking/recording all food. In my experience, I think full day of eating videos can be helpful in terms of understanding how MUCH food one could be eating (ie: Jeff Nipper or MegSquats who are showing full days of eating when training). In my opinion, and personal experience, I think the more restrictive ones (ie: 1200 calories or less) can be quite dangerous especially for younger viewers. I won't name any names, but videos posted by influencers detailing their "diet" that closely resembles my own during the height of my ED, sets off major alarms when they know their primary audience is like 12-16 year olds. Anyway, just my two cents. As always, thanks for the vid :)
I love "full day of eating" videos. Actually, especially Natacha Oceane's videos and explanations helped me view nutrition in a different and healthy light! So glad I found her. My eating had been a little disordered and I was on the verge of anorexia when younger but nothing crazy anymore before watching her. I love her and some other creator's healthy relationships with food and I do get a few meal ideas. But I also realize that my needs are different and specific to me.
Edit: I'm selective of the videos I consume. If someone spews nonsense, I immediately stop watching. Unfortunately, many young people don't know the difference and what to look out for
Crazy bc she posted one today!!!! I love her too ❤️
Same! I love watching Natacha because she actually helped me through a phase of disordered eating, listening to her saying science backed info and how she approaches food in general was perfect for me to realize that I was under eating and labeling food
"Do I ever implement these ideas? No." hahah SAME
Video Notes:
Obviously a bit of a different video from you, but one I know much of your audience will appreciate! Your genuine concern for your audience's mental health always shows through, and I have no reason to doubt it's authenticity. I'll also commend you for taking the effort to learn more about eating disorder issues yourself so you can more effectively talk about them to vulnerable populations.
It was good to see the demonstrations with training footage at the end, something I know you've been filming for a while to start incorporating in videos, so will be great to see going forward.
Your videos and you are always appreciated, breh!
When will you demonstrate exercises together???
I agree 100%, and even if you don’t have a background in eating disorders, we can see your efforts into supporting and addressing the dangers of certain types of content.
The final footage of the exercises demonstration is gold! Can’t wait to see more of those. For example when I do the single arm lat pulls, I do them kneeling, and I extend my elbow a bit further than parallel to feel my lat more, but I didn’t know I was targeting the lower part more. Thank you for the explanation!
Can you recommend a few books or reliable sources to learn more about eating disorders please ?
@@traceym.8371 two books I borrowed from the library are 8 Keys to Recovery from an Eating Disorder (Carolyn Costin & Gwen Schubert Grabb) and Loving Someone with an Eating Disorder (Dana Harron). Carolyn and Gwen are both licensed therapists and eating disorder specialists who are both recovered, and Dana is a Doctor of Psychology. I’d definitely pay attention to the author’s credentials for any book you choose to read and probably stick to therapists who specialize in EDs or psychologists. The first book I borrowed was written by a registered dietician, and I felt guilty having to return it to the library because it was awful.
@@melissathelioma2890 thank you 😊 what was the title of the awful book ?
Today I felt like I was falling into the good/bad food labeling again and feeling shit about myself, and this video popped in my feed right on time... ED recovery is a daily struggle, some days are better, some not so much, but being aware of your mind's habits and where it tends to go in times of stress is key.
Thank you for creating valuable and kind content! Your words today made my day better and reminded me to put myself first :)
Prediction: Another wholesome and educational video from you.
I was like how are there 27 comments in 11 minutes? Oh it's Austin. Lol
@@HeatherBlue37 always.
Found this video fascinating Harry. I was planning on actually making a full day of eating video tomorrow, because surprisingly when I ask people what videos they want to see they say they enjoy a full day of eating video. I must admit I haven’t always considered how this can come across to people with eating disorders as well people who maybe very new to training and are looking to copy a specific diet when it’s very individual.
Even though I do not have a big following, from
The comments and DM’s I get, they are often young guys and girls who are just starting their fitness/lifting journey, therefore I am often very careful with the content I put out. This video has made me think about how I’m going to approach these types of videos in the future.
Appreciate you my dude❤️
I consume far more UA-cam content than I'd like to admit, and your channel is maybe the best find all year. Thank you, sir.
Thank you for making my day! I appreciate you and hope you’ve had an amazing day ❤️
😂😂😂when are we going to give austin his crown 👑?
One day 😂
I totally agree with you! You just perfectly worded how I feel and think about this type of content. I do not mind that kind of content for myself, but for many it can be problematic.
As a person with adhd I like to get some inspiration for food. My meds absolutely kills my appetite, I have to force myself to eat and when someone shows something that looks really good and I just instantly start craving the food I saw, I feel as if I have won the lottery😂
I also have to say that I appreciate it when some of theese people use those kind of videos to show others that you can loose weight and still eat the things you love to eat. Totally guilt free, not making ppl think that dessert is the enemy. Giving ppl smart and yummy alternatives to actually enjoying the process is a really smart thing to do imo, it will hopefully get ppl to understand that it can be a positive experience and not just getting them to hate «bad» food and making them feel ashamed for enjoying said «bad» food.
As always, I enjoy your content so much! U have a way with words, u explain everything so well and you are always so warm, understanding and kind! You never talk shit about others and you are so damn respectful! Honestly, if more ppl were like you the world would be a much better place!
Sending my love from Norway!🥰
I am in ED recovery and as someone who is recovering, in the depths of my ED many full day of eating videos, I became obsessed over and now I see they were promoting restrictive eating. So sad that it is soo normalised.
I always giggle at the intro clips because the hat is just so funny and you always choose a serious statement for the intro hahaha 😅
one of the most underrated yt...thank u for this video
Happy Monday! This title has already everything I need to love this new video 😊
Before even watching, gotta say: This hat is incredibly funny 🤣 You've outdone yourself! 😂 Gotta get used to it before I'm able to process and absorb your educated opinions and tips
I’ve been suffering from eating disorders my whole life until I was 30. Now I’m 42, I do strength training and enjoy eating. I’m also paying attention to my macros but I don’t obsess over it. I watch full days of eating videos only because I’m now in a good mental health and I have a good relationship with food and my body.
If I would go back in time to my anorexic years, I think those videos would have had a negative impact on my mental health. One thing I deeply find disturbing and triggering for me are mukbang videos. Those should be banned.
Just want to say I am glad you are recovered from the eating disorder
Why do you find mukbang videos disturbing if you don’t mind me asking ?
This is so inspiring. I hope you don’t mind me askIng but what helped you to change? I’m in my 30s and I’m finally realising the impact of my ways. So I’m increasing my intake. But was there anything that really helped you? ☺️
@@traceym.8371 Mukbangs videos correspond to “ana” and thinspo images and blogs. It’s the other side of the same coin: Inspiring more disorder eating and unhealthy relationship with food.
@@natashaj4113 Glad to hear you’re taking some steps to heal ❤️ For me it has been fundamental mental support with a therapist. Unfortunately for me, I a reached a point where I had to be hospitalized. That journey has been tough but enough to put in the work to change. I suggest you find the kind of support you need externally. For as much as our family/friends/partners want to help, they’re too much involved and usually they’re not expert. Good luck, I’m sure you’ll get better with time 😘
Thank you do much for your video. I think you're approaching a very important problem here... Especially when talking about mentioning calories and macros
I personally know that I am most likely consuming more full day of eating videos than the average person and I fully agree with your opinion on them potentially being triggering - because some of them definitely can be. Personally, I usually spend my time eating without company and find it really hard to eat that way. That's why I watch those videos, to feel less lonely when I am eating. But I think it totally depends on the person doing the videos, there can be a lot of really helpful youtubers who are not including calories whatsoever and only show meal inspiration. That's the value I see in them :)
I had a not-so-fun time with disordered eating and it really made things so difficult in so many ways. I now practice intuitive eating which really rejects the idea of counting calories and eating specific foods simply because we “should”. I like seeing good food ideas, but I don’t like seeing the calories or amounts of food because it’s so easy to slip into feeling badly about myself for not eating a certain way (despite knowing that I include lots of nutrient dense foods including healthy fats, whole grains, lean proteins, fruits and veg). Eating is and should always be highly individualized, but I feel these videos imply a certain level of “eat like me and you’ll look/perform like me” and that’s horrifically misguided. Just my thoughts.
Thank you for making this video! I love your ongoing care for sensitive topics- it’s so important to remember that we are all humans doing the best we can, which looks so different for everyone.
Thank you so much for the great discussion about individual goals and body confirmations.
I want to watch you and Austin eat a whole buffet together!
FDE videos to me are like the calories on restaurant menus. They have an inherent potential for value in that they let you know something you did not know before. At the same time, it is up to the individual to decide whether that info or knowledge is A) true B) relevant or C) helpful.
Those videos have been really motivating me not to starve myself and to continue reverse dieting journey and build muscle when i see other fitness influencers who weigh less and eat higher calories than me.
The old me would've assumed all lean women ate tiny amounts of food. So they've been VERY motivating for me.. not to go back to yo yo dieting.
I’m training for a marathon (two weeks out!) and while I’m physically capable of accomplishing the things required to get ready, it turns out I get bored on long runs and I don’t like eating high volumes of carbs. Love carbs, but there’s a limit. I felt like, as a runner, I need to keep increasing my distance for races to prove that I’m in good shape. At least I know better now, and will take those lessons with me after the race.
I’m working with a nutritionist to get me through the next two weeks, then I’m looking forward to switching back to workouts and a diet that I enjoy more and letting my Ironman ambitions sit while I have way more fun improving my sprint speeds.
Re: keeping up with other people-I’ve run myself ragged trying to do similar workouts to my huge, works-out-as-part-of-his-job boyfriend, but I’m happiest when we go to the gym together but do our own thing, and do a challenge workout together once in a while that I modify to fit my abilities.
Thanks for the thoughtful video Harry!
Do what's best for you.
I quite enjoy Full day of eating videos. Mostly for ideas and inspiration. My favourite videos are generally by Finnish fitness influencers, because they usually feature foods I would actually make (I'm Finnish myself). If the videos feature meal prep and/or oatmeal, even better. (Don't ask me why I find oatmeal so exciting, I have no idea)
I have wanted to see a video like this for a long time, thanks Harry!
I like watching some to find inspiration on what to make or just have them in the background. However, I find that a lot of women do not include the calories they consume and encourage eating all and not restrict. That also may just be who I follow too, who knows!
The messages in the video are spot on. After years of trying different diets and fads it finally clicked for me that I needed to change my relationship and how I view food. Once I started hearing the message that food is fuel, that started helping me switch my mindset. I tracked macros for about 4 months just to help rewire my brain on how I should be balancing my diet. That being said, once I was around the 4 month of tracking I saw the dangers of tracking come out (just what I experienced). I started becoming fixated on calories and the macros for the day, even if I wasn’t hungry at night but I had calories left to burn I would force myself to eat, that’s when I realized I was ready to move towards intuitive eating. Now I eat when and what my body is craving. I think this is super important, especially for women. Studies have shown that for women who are moving through their different cycles each month correlate with a influx of calories and other nutrients during those times. I know people all have their different lifestyles and different things work for different people, but I couldn’t be happier with intuitive eating.
as a person with ocd these videos were my downfall during my ed. Its an unhealthy obsession, i couldnt stop watching them but they made me feel awful. Im healthier now. still dealing with repercussions from my ed.Those videos now sometimes give inspiration. but when my mental health is bad, they sent me into a downward spiral.
With this hat on your head, you should have presented with a Scottish accent. 😊😊 Great video. Super RIGHT about calorie count being really a difficult benchmark because there are soooooo many variables.
If I only had one video to show someone what TFNL is about, it’d be this video.
I have always appreciated your messages of “you vs you”, finding the best option that works for you, and never comparing yourself to others. You keep it real Harry, just needed to let you know.
For what I eat in a day videos I really enjoy them actually! I do however avoid the ones that have the calories in them. I’m very passionate about being able to live a healthy lifestyle without counting calories and that’s why in my videos I don’t either :) I enjoy them bc I like getting different ideas and it’s just interesting to me. I enjoy making what I eat videos bc I want to show others you can achieve success in a steady, balanced, and healthy way.
I struggle - on and off - with my eating and can definitely find some videos triggering. But I absolutely love Natacha Oceane's eating videos. Both because I adore her personality and because she reminds me not to be afraid of food. She makes me enjoy a healthy and balanced lifestyle.
I'm definitely not where I want to be aesthetic-wise, but I am also debating whether it's worth it if I feel absolutely miserable and hungry during the process itself. Lately I've been enjoying not counting calories and instead focusing on my body's hunger cues, feeling strong when I workout, and how it frees up a lot of time to not obsess over food 24/7. I still have my "bad days", of course, where I question whether what I'm doing is right, but more and more I am trying to tell myself that achieving my goal of a flat stomach won't make me a better or more valuable person. 😅
Love your videos too. I've already learned a lot by watching your content.
That moment you like the video before even watching😂 I just know it’s going to be bloody splendid❤️
I have to say this hat is really doing it for me haha this one is a keeper 😉
Excellent info as always, love that you're so mindful of the mental health of your viewers. Keep up the great work! 💜
I like what I eat in a day videos just because I'm nosey and like to see how other people live their lives. However... they did really mess me up in the past but not any more than just being around other people while they ate... I have a fast metabolism for my height. But I have a very healthy appetite so I've never dealt with being too thin and I can overeat and gain weight. I'm 32 5'1" sort of active female and I maintain 125 lbs at 2500 to 3000 calories. I've had friends my same height and size who ate waaaaaay less and I felt really embarrassed by it. People have made comments in the past about how much I eat and didn't believe me when I said I was starving a few hours after eating so much. It almost felt not feminine to eat so much. When I was younger I would try to emulate what I eat in a day's from other women that looked like me, so like 1500 to 1700 calories and I would get dizzy spells if I stood up, I'd feel faint, couldn't sleep, and would stop working out because I just couldn't move. I don't like needing to eat this much it's honestly annoying. I think people should remind people in those videos that calorie need recommendations are an AVERAGE which means you will have outliers like me lol
Honestly, I enjoy full days of eating videos a lot but I have never looked at them as a guide or as “this is how it should be“. I understand that the content might be triggering or harmful for some as we all eat a different amount of calories and in different ways in general. Great video :)
A lot of the lower calorie target videos are more to show you that it isn't impossible to stay satisfied eating that number and reasonable meals can be had even if it seems like low calories. The +dessert most likely isn't to shame it but show you that you don't have to miss out on treats in a 1450 deficit diet. It's about learning to encorporate everything
Harry, loved your take on this. I’ve never thought how triggering those videos can be. It’s odd to think this is the best way people get across their advice for eating. Not sure how else you can do it though?
I’d love to see your take on Miss Fit & Nerdy. I loved her content for awhile but something seems just…odd about her videos as of recently. As always, love your advise!
This video couldn't have come at a better time for me.
I know my disordered eating is unhealthy and I'm constantly trying to remind myself of this.
I do sometimes watch What I eat in a day videos but only from influencers I think are genuine
We need more healthy and realistic fitness influencers like you!!🙏🤩
Two random (nice!) comments:
1. Really good trigger explanation/debunk. Not an ED peep, a PTSD bod, but honestly probably the best overview/disclaimer I’ve heard.
2. Just realised why I still watch (tldr body is being ridiculous and use mobility aids because spine is basically a wasteman at this point). Dunno if it’s deliberate, but your content is actually pretty disability-inclusive. I’ve been on the pivot point of “do I use a wheelchair and max out when not in it, or do I not do that but accept less overall activity/freedom” for a few years now. There’s a few wheelie creators doing fitness stuff anyway, but you’re one of very few people I watch who does fitness for people with typical leg power & balance potential.
You’ve just got a really good knack for not making me feel rubbish about my body being radically different to what it was, and it’s like I don’t have to actively address the ongoing grieving for that while I watch. I can just kick back and actually focus on what you’re saying. That’s a rare talent.
It’s nice to be seen as just another fleshy bone bag trying to make the most out of what I’ve got 👍
For me personally, I'm in a very similar mindset about full day of eating videos as you. I watch both videos from people that are training and aiming for a calorie amount but I also watch a lot of videos of people that don't train, don't track and just eat whatever when they want. Both of these I watch for inspiration for meals, whether those meals are aiming to help me fit into my macros or something that just looks tasty and I want to try.
I think the problem definitely can come when people are maybe struggling with eating disorders or feeling lost on their journey they'll look to replicate them or feel bad about their own food. It's definitely something that people need to consider how viewing this content will personally affect THEM and whether its beneficial for the consumption of that content in the long run or if it just fuels their damaging mindset more. I've been on the ED boat with watching these videos and it definitely made me feel worse at the time, now I'm in a healthier place with calories and food etc in general these videos are more beneficial than detrimental to me.
I unfortunately went through a period where I was very into watching extremely low calorie what I eat in a day videos and those were very harmful and as I tried to develop a better relationship with food I came to really dislike those types of videos as a whole. However, recently I've gotten into what I eat in a day videos that really encourage eating enough and finding balance and they've really helped me. Especially Natacha Oceane's videos. I definitely relate to what you said about just liking to watch people eat while you eat lol. And hey give me inspiration too
Something that pisses me off about "full day of eating" and "day in the life" videos is that most of the influencers have partners and no full time jobs. They'll be like: "so i have two sunny side eggs, on organic avocado toast, with fresh cut berries and green juice - so healthy and satisfying!" Like seriously, you have like an hour to make breakfast and journal everyday? Try having work deliverables or a commute or a job with performance measures.. they don't show that a large portion of their life is run by other people (partners, assistants, business managers, editors, etc) when none of what they are doing is achieved by a single person. Its just deceiving and disappointed
This is such a good point! There are a couple of people I used to follow but stopped when they quit their "normal" jobs to be full time influencers because I just couldn't relate anymore.
As someone who has recovered from an ED, I am a strong believer that everyone(!) should follow intuitive eating, and it is absolutely possible to attain your goals while doing so. It’s been possible for me and other influencers like Libby Christensen. If anyone seeing this is struggling or would like to find out more, I found the podcast “Eating Disorders Recovery Podcast” by Tabitha Farrar to be huge in my recovery and a great resource. ❤️
I would also suggest the podcast "Calling it Out" by Jaqueline Campion. It has been a game changer in my recovery journey :)
I found calorie counting quite triggering for me in the past. I have always been insecure about my body, and that did lead to restricting and feeling guilty about eating certain foods. I try to follow creators/influencers who do not count their calories and intuitively eat and i find inspiration in their meal ideas to incorporate in my own. I do track calories now, but purely to see if i am eating the recommneded intake for myself and to judge how I feel. I think FDOE videos can be good, but you have to be careful how you approach them, like what you discussed. Thanks for the video! The yellow fluff sitting on the side of your face annoyed me to no end though lol.
I sometimes watch these types of videos also thinking I will get “new ideas” which I also never use 😂 A question… do I always need to work to failure when my goal is maintenance and not hypertrophic?
I like watching Natacha's Full day of eating videos. She had some fun food ideas. Full day of eating videos have caused a lot of harm to my mental health in the past. I'd see women eating 1300 calories and feel terribly about myself because u was eating a lot more.
Personally, What I Eat In A Day videos have quite the positive effect on me. I like to follow smaller youtubers, like Grackle or Linh Trang, because they don't follow a diet, they don't calorie track - they just eat when they want what they want. They approach food as something that makes them happy. And it rubs off. It also makes me want to try new foods, that I previously couldn't eat because of ARFID.
On the flip side, seeing those videos that focus on a certain amount of calories (both undereating & overeating) make my stomach turn. They have a time and place, but they're also very bad manipulators. Watching people eat >2.5k cal makes me want to eat less. Watching people eat
I can see why they are problematic for some people. However for me personally, I have only started stumbling across them recently and I find them a bit intriguing. As a long time vegetarian it is interesting to me to see what people post as health conscious meals and what can I borrow from.
Interestingly enough, when I first started trying to get healthy I watched a lot of these videos and became a bit obsessed with making every single meal beautiful and "healthy" (which actually meant low-cal to me and the creators I watched back then). Calorie counting was also harmful for me at the time because I hadn't properly dealt with my body image issues or my food issues, so it lead to some harmful behaviour.... Not that I'm perfect now, but after a couple years of no counting and no weighing and really working on the emotional side of things, I'm going back to it now to get into muscle building! I never ever thought I would want to ADD to my body, but now I'm so excited to see that first bit of buldging as my muscles grow! I feel way more able to view this from a scientific perspective, counting just to optimise and understand my doet from a nutritional perspective. Tracking revealed to me that my daily protein was way below even the government guidelines, let alone the levels needed to build muscle. Correcting that improved my energy levels a lot, no longer hungry all the time! Ive always been very weak physically, and building strength now is more like a hobby than a mandate (cos strength isn't a need, its just a goal I'm pursuing for fun and health).
Crazy that this video got recommended to me… My channel is blowing up, 30k subs in two months. Majority of my shorts content is full day of eating. Would love to know what you think about my shorts
I enjoy the videos for the most part. Sometimes I’ll get a little meal or snack idea. But I do understand why they’re problematic. I also think that some people are dishonest when they do these videos.
Might be a weird question, but do you think lateral raises are effective for the shoulders? I feel like it’s really hard to progressively overload them, since it may lead injuries
Try out lying cable lateral raises if you are able to, I think they've been working well for me!
I find some upper body exercises are a lot harder to progressively overload by adding weight. If you’re unable to increase the weight, you could also try adding more reps or another set.
I personally skip the ones with a swimsuit (or similar) photo in the thumbnail. It makes me sad that someone’s abs (or anything about their body) is the primary
advertisement of their food choices.
I have made what I eat in a day videos tht weren't focused on calories. I also could binge the next day but I was good on taping days.
But I also found out after I had my last baby, that some of the more "intuitive eating" types made me angry and frustrated in even trying. Not sure if they are fake but some of these super slender people are eating huge meals(but at the same time super food focused) and I was upset that I couldn't even do that when nursing a kid! Obviously I will always need to have some sort of awareness on what I eat. 🤷
I am hoping to find a more balanced approach this time and find happiness in what helps me attain health.
I love what I eat in a days and similar videos, but use them for meal inspiration and recipe ideas rather than seeing them as things I need to copy. It also means I usually only watch creators who eat foods that I enjoy rather than overly restrictive creators. However I can absolutely see how these kinds of videos could negatively impact some people.
Well done once again
Comment question! I realize this may be kinda stupid: The concept of failure is still somewhat confusing. For instance, when benching or OHPing, if I take a couple of seconds of extra rest at the top, I'm able to get a few more reps in. Does training to failure mean: no more rep with minimal rest time between reps or no more reps with x seconds of rest between reps? With squats and DLs this is extra confusing.
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I enjoy full day of eating videos for inspiration…and some curiosity. Although I have not observed them to be problematic for me, I certainly understand why they might be for some.
I eat what I like to eat and that my body can handle. I do watch those video's too and also to find some inspiration but I actually never try it 😂 im happy and healthy now. In the past it was borderline anorexia for me and standing 3 times a day on my scale...now...my scale is a dustbuster now.
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I do watch them occasionally but I know that their needs are differnt to mine and often unrealistic as maybe they feel pressured to show the community that they are "healthy" but eat way too little
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can you add a link for the podcasts UA-cam page please? having trouble finding it.
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Good sir.
I believe WIEIAD videos start to become somewhat dangerous when for example a youtuber let's their audience know that they're activelly avoid a certain type of food/food groups because it isn't "good for them" or "clean enough". It makes me kinda sad to watch that because that person is clearly struggling with their relationship with food but at the same time it is very irresponsible of their part to be spreading that kind of messaging, you know? Im sorry if this sounded kinda confusing, i'm not a native speaker :X
Also, where the hell do you get all of your hats? Do you have a special closet for them or something?😅
I like FDE videos for recipe inspiration and new snack ideas whe you're in a rut, but I cringe when I see the ultra-low-calorie, low-nutrient "meals" some people think is appropriate.
I personally Just watch intuitive eating what i eat in a days, like erin Rutherford, Julia ayers, used to watch waffelswithleila too
The “what I eat in a day” videos can be interesting inspiration but I also remember that the people making the video probably have a lot more time and money at their disposal for grocery shopping and meal prep. Also after a while videos coming from similar types of content creators all start looking the same lol
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Question for CQOW - I currently go to the gym 4 times a week and do 2 upper body days and 2 lower. I have been doing 1 push day and 1 pull day for upper body but would I see better results if I combined them and just did an all over upper body day and do the same movements both days 🤔
I'm recovered from an eating disorder. I personally like FDOE videos for the purpose of meal ideas and recipes. The people I watch that do FDOE don't include any calories about the food, generally female creators tend not to, it seems to be mainly in the bodybuilding space. However, I personally don't really think it's a major issue, and I definitely wouldn't say all influencers should just ignore calories altogether, because that's also not helpful. It's complicated as you could say that literally anything could be triggering to someone with an ED if the content is about food. I think that as long as the creator puts a disclaimer on the video that's as far as their responsibilities extend. If you think something is triggering to you and your ED, don't watch it. Unless the creator is making false claims or putting out dangerous information then I don't think it needs to be 'called out'
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Happy Easter Harry! 🌞🐰🍭
I freaking love listening to u and your topics
How is Austin already here???
I never reveal my secrets.
We have pretty much the exact same approach to WIEIAD videos...I like to see what other people eat ostensibly to give me ideas of things I could make and eat (but do I ever follow through? Not so far! ), and I don't love the stigmas they often perpetuate.
Baby steps are still steps.
Watching people eat while I eat is super normal!
fdoes definitely impacted me negatively. now i like them, from creators/nutritionists i like, for inspiration, but when i had an ed, i would watch different fdoes for a long time and feel superior that i ate less than them. then i would watch recovery all in fdoes where people stuffed themselves with junk and it disgusted me and drove me further into my food hatred. i do still hate those and avoid them.
The hat is awesome 🤣
Here’s a possibly dumb question; what exactly is a sedentary lifestyle and what counts as activity throughout the day.
I don't find them triggering I actually get jealous of how much other people can eat chase I can only eat like 1300-1400 or less or I'll gain weight
Ro Mitchell just did a really great version of what I eat in a day after anorexia recovery, and touches some of the points you have :)
Using "full day of eating" brought up body builders but the term "what I eat in a day" seems to show other results
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CQotW: if you could domesticate any animal - REAL OR MYTHOLOGICAL/LITERARY - as a pet… what would you have?
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Today is a good day.
They used to be my favourite to watch, but since recovering from my ED, I find them boring honestly. i'm just not as interested in food. I like food but it doesn't control me and I don't seek out the content. I think meal ideas and cooking videos are dope but FDOE... nah.
I'm running out of things to say.